Hosea's Advice to John Marston / Hidden Dialogue / Red Dead Redemption 2

Hosea gives John some needed advice.
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[@brianjuarez6412]

Arthur sounds like Hosea in chapter 6

[@sean543213]

Actually Dutch points out that Arthur sounds like Hosea since chapter 5.

[@sauce6746]

@@sean543213 i would say since chapter 4

[@jaceharrison7936]

Did was that just oldness for Hosea or did he have it too?

[@83uwb]

@@sean543213 Didn't Dutch say that because Arthur said "What about the women?" when they were having an argument? I never noticed him saying that regarding Arthur's cough.

[@johnramsey6868]

@@jaceharrison7936 I noticed it some in other cut scenes, but this sure makes it look like Hosea had the TB also. I will guess that is why he talked to John, about Jack and family, the way he did. He knew that the end was coming close not just for him and Arthur, but for the whole thing they had lived in for so long.

[@arianhamidizadeh721]

You can clearly see that Hosea had his favorites. He had deep affection for John and Arthur. Like a father. And Arthur is like the older son who is constantly picking on his younger brother John. Those three were different than the rest.

[@tonyfortier8835]

It's because they're the OG members of the gang.

[@chocoalmondfudge]

I mean he practically raised the two

[@astaroth5024]

And also Lenny, he cared a lot for Lenny as well.

[@dantederi5062]

Don't forget about lenny

[@jmxd3303]

Hosea loved Arthur Lenny john and Charles more than the other gang members I guess

[@Zbruv]

Wish Hosea and Arthur could've survived with John

[@Haywood_Jablowmi420]

Hope one day we get a game where we get to play as young Hosea

[@thatonefruitthatistasty708]

Jacob Broughton would be fucking sweet!

[@Outlaw7263]

What about a young uncle? I wanna see if that "one shot kid" thing was true, probably not but it would add more depth to his character if he actually was a very talented gunslinger who just grew old

[@sauce6746]

@@Outlaw7263 they called him the "One Shot Kid" cuz in a fight Uncle always went down in one punch

[@eccentriconyt]

They could have if John wasn't that stubborn and if the plot

[@tateparker8112]

3:27 John : “Thank you, both of you...” Arthur : 👉🤠👉

[@Laws2]

🤠👆🏼👉🏼

[@miety111]

AHAHHAHAHA

[@leoneldavila818]

Underrated coment

[@emiliojavier8268]

🖕🤠🖕

[@bluewolf9427]

😭😭😭💀💀💀

[@theghost449]

Man i miss hosea. He was one of my favorite characters in the game

[@thyxreaper]

The Ghost he’s like our grandfather figure

[@johnnykopp7304]

He was my favorite person too.

[@theghost449]

@@thyxreaper exactly. He would try to guide everyone

[@zacharysanchez8938]

Hosea was the only member who was woke. He knew Dutch was a dumbass and everyone was gonna die cause of him

[@eszterantal5231]

yup he was a decent man he deffo deserved better :(

[@shannonhenman949]

So in fact Hosea was first to tell John to get the hell out of here and be a goddamn man ... Never knew that .. great find ! But happy that Arthur made sure that John got out with his family kinda like hoseas last wish .. sad Hosea was the wisest of them all . Rip Hosea

[@callumward7503]

What I liked about him was his strategic thinking and foresight. He speaks about unconditional love, support and looks after the crew. Fuck agent Milton...

[@marcovazquez2071]

Shannon Henman man you guys are acting like he died in real life it’s just a game chill it 😂🤦🏻‍♂️

[@shannonhenman949]

@@marcovazquez2071 I know it's a game I was just commenting on the hidden dialogue. Just a great character killed off too soon is all . Can't say rockstar didn't make this a great game that touched alot of people . Not like I'm all sitting here having a fake funeral for him or something. Lol

[@marcovazquez2071]

Shannon Henman I mean you never know maybe you could 🤷🏻‍♂️😝

[@ExpressTacoVille]

Shannon Henman I’m down for a fake funeral.

[@im_umbrella_man3896]

Dude... Arthur ended up following Hosea. Makes so much sense. Arthur by the end of the game had Hoseas wisdom.

[@im_umbrella_man3896]

@@subpain4257 If you read Arthur's journal he stated clearly he loves Hosea as a father in many more ways.

[@MrsJasmyn45]

Arthur had more of Hosea's ideas, and then.. Dutch became more like Micah. Out for self and playing victim

[@im_umbrella_man3896]

@skankhunt42 Oh yeah I know I saw.

[@im_umbrella_man3896]

@@MrsJasmyn45 You right. Plus he kept insisting they were fine when they weren't.

[@spotty4849]

Dutch even said Arthur sounds like hosea in chapter 5 after getting back from guarma

[@challenger9520]

The realism in these dialogues are amazing. They need more games like this.

[@5398-x8y]

AXL yeah,and stop hopping on the battle royale train,that's what ruined CODBO.

[@trevorphilips9065]

Hopefully Bully 2

[@henryn5445]

Is bully2 gonna happen?

[@callumkellly]

Henry N it was cancelled, honestly there’s no need for a Bully 2

[@WorldlyBudget]

Then you have CyberPunk 2077 trash

[@odontoxins3223]

Arthur and John are some of the best video game protagonists Ever. Period.

[@sunnysidejoni]

Amen to that 😎👍

[@sanatoriumnugget6598]

And nathan drake

[@MrPureRelentless]

Would be cool if Mary (I believe was her name) was pregnant with Arthur’s child at the end of the game and the child grew up and tracked down Jack Marston and they form a new gang. They could call themselves The M&M gang lol.

[@TheRubberMatch]

Arthur, John, and Joel from The Last of Us. The big 3

[@hoticeparty]

Aint even gunna include my boy lee Everett? only game that made me cry

[@JonnyAugz]

I love the way Hosea carries his pistols. Cross draw style.

[@imahoare4742]

That particular style is called a Cavalry draw. It was mostly used by mounted soldiers because it was a safe way to carry on a horse.

[@nowistimeforfightingyouson3325]

@@imahoare4742 wonder why it was safe?

[@joshbrown8756]

Dutch has two regular, Hosea has 2 cross draw. Arthur has 1 of each... perhaps a reference to them raising him?

[@zeedepth]

Josh's comment deserves more attention

[@alovekok9044]

That's a revolver.

[@jimbeaux89]

Hosea would’ve tried to get John out if he didn’t die. Arthur saving John is exactly what Hosea would’ve wanted

[@vgdrent2852]

Exactly.

[@threecheers5101]

Yeah, like many people have said, Arthur picked up Hosea’s wisdom by the end of the game

[@bobbysbluebooster]

Hosea was only trying to protect Jack.

[@mauricioamsgls9744]

@@bobbysbluebooster he wanted John and his family to live

[@davidcruz385]

@@bobbysbluebooster while pretty much what Arthur wanted not to say he didn't care about john but he mainly wanted to get john out for jakes sake

[@tonyhokenson]

"forgiveness is just another way of saying you don't care anymore"

[@nicholaspanos1559]

Unfortunately for John, he was right in the end. Edgar Ross never forgot or forgave John, even after John brought down Bill, Javier, and even Dutch...

[@quorke]

Nicholas Panos it was more of people forget, but the law doesn’t

[@JeanpierreLegourbassiet]

This quote, in 95% of stories, would’ve been an iconic punchline told in a significant scene. One of those you remember forever after just once you’ve heard them. But here it’s just sayd during an hidden dialogue. This is why this Game is a pure masterpiece of fiction, but also in the same time too fucking close to real life.

[@66order]

​@@nicholaspanos1559 man forgive me but you are dumb. Hosea was talking about John run away and forget about everything and in the end John hunt Micah and the laws find him

[@Gravelgratious]

"When you're my age you realize, more gets forgotten than remembered." Great advice actually.

[@crimsondynamo615]

Shane Edgar never forgot

[@nickeIdime]

Except he ends up wrong and John gets proven right in the end. Nothing gets forgotten nor forgiven all the way up to Jack killing Edgar Ross

[@BababooeyGooey]

Ms. Grimshaw: What's wrong with you, Mr. Morgan?! *X Defuse* Arthur: Yeah yeah yeah... Ms. Grimshaw: Okay then, Arthur :)

[@iusethisnameformygoogleacc1013]

@@valhatan3907 She'll also forcibly wash you and take your money.

[@Jobe-13]

That bit confused me

[@abdullahaltuwaijri8550]

6:14 he said that to Bonnie in rdr1

[@spareglizzymaam7725]

Abdullah Ibrahim I noticed this too, just went strolling through the comments to see who else caught that. Good on you man.

[@leotheskyguy]

It makes me so happy to see all of his best quotes carry over into this game. Wish I caught this encounter in my first playthrough it would've made me shed a tear.

[@hieumongous2908]

The actor that played John himself said that this lime was his favorite line

[@greattitan371]

Looks like he didn't forget that saying.

[@itzkevin948]

Wait what hosea says or what John says

[@NemesisC81]

6:17 Holly hell... This game has some deep amazing quotes on it. I've learned more from this than from people i know irl...

[@bunsonbaker4156]

There’s something about John that just makes us melt. He tries hard not to show his good heart but it’s there. Arthur was a good influence like that

[@zombiekiller4313]

Arthur has no influence on john.

[@lorddullahan]

​@@zombiekiller4313Gotta be trolling lmao

[@zombiekiller4313]

@@lorddullahan Just stating a thought.Sorry you can't handle it bud.

[@lorddullahan]

@@zombiekiller4313 Well it sure is a thought at least

[@falloutmanize]

5:05 For a minute, I swore that John was on a laptop.

[@shonthacreator6146]

Crazy illusion

[@DerpyEmoKid]

Lmfao

[@Tw0Dots]

He had to switch of from GTA for a minute

[@ludwigtheholyblade_777]

John is a time traveler, it's confirmed.

[@micahbell7530]

Jajajaja me too

[@RossG99]

“People don’t forget, nothing gets forgiven” what a beautiful call back to the first game hidden in dialogue that you can randomly find. Also he says that in the John Marston trailer, so that’s a call back to literally 2009

[@auroraflos2498]

I think he says that to the Strange Man or something?

[@august8696]

@@auroraflos2498 it’s in a cutscene with bonnie

[@auroraflos2498]

@@august8696 Yeahhhh, I remember now!

[@Verdiumm]

I was looking for this comment, i knew this was in the first game somewhere.

[@RobertsonIsland]

Hosea told John to “be a man” and take care of his family, those are also some of Arthur’s last words to John

[@ddqwf]

You can tell that final conversation between John and Hosea, John is by now seriously considering and absorbing Hosea's wisdom slowly but surely becoming the hero he was meant to be.

[@Peter-gj4fy]

3:42 Micah's kinky side

[@vulpinenyx6208]

I didn't need that image in my Head..why would you do this..

[@IJDAI]

damn dude..

[@Thugin115]

69 likes

[@aleemizcool3654]

Loool I know Im a year late but this comment is gold

[@kingman-fm4dq]

it would have costed you nothing to keep it to yourself

[@kamomohilda7954]

Hosea is like a grandpa with wisdom, who always has a way to get through the hardships, no matter how hard they are.

[@pongopea]

I miss Hosea so much, such a sweet old man.

[@tommymcdoodle5326]

“People don’t forget nothing gets forgiven “ line from RDR1 trailer

[@higherwarrior3534]

5:07 i thought he was holding a laptop lol

[@yuvrajvashishth8692]

3:28 that hand gesture Arthur gives as a reply of John's thank you is one of the reasons I love this game!!!

[@fatalthoughts5574]

"you ain't a fool till you start pretending to be one." Damn... This game is so damn good.

[@Zuzhi44barzz]

*I would say you should get the hell away from here.* *Is this a place to raise a boy?* *Be a man John. It would suit you* Some people tends to give all credit to Arthur for contributing John's character and arc, of course no disrespect for him but I personally would say that *both* Arthur and Hosea were huge factors for John's transformation to the Legend of the West.

[@davidz5872]

Agreed.

[@DJspidey100]

This. And I would say it’s not just those two, either. What’s great is how several characters help him grow. Arthur helps, of course, once he gets over his own issues - but Hosea, Sadie, Charles. Hell, even Uncle despite his lumbago. RDR2 tells a lot of tales but my favorite is Marston’s origin story and how several lift him up.

[@ianfairfield8373]

@@DJspidey100 Amen to that

[@HeyGuy4321]

Well.duh

[@xXDopamineInbalanceXx]

He followed this advice way too late.

[@kyle6415]

I'm so happy that Red Dead Redemption wasn't a one off game. All the context that RDR 2 added to the story along with the expanded environment made it the best game content I've ever played.

[@Smaltese93]

5:31 WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU hard swerve

[@PainfulHail134]

3:42 Micah: You come to arrest me Morgan? :D

[@jamesmcdaid1260]

Hosea knew John was the only one who could go straight. And do a decent job of it.

[@kimberlyh.1090]

Rockstar handled John's arc in RDR2 as well as they did Arthur's, they set him up to match his character in RDR1 *perfectly* . He was a like a surly 20yr. old fresh out his teenage years, and he became a Man by the end.

[@MarvinT0606]

Ngl seeing John go full-deadbeat on Abigail and Jack was frustrating when you know what kind of man he was in RDR

[@alexwalsh1489]

“People don’t forget, nothing gets forgiven”

[@Nate-mq4rh]

hearing Hosea talk about the old days makes me want RDR3 (however many years away from that may be) to be set in the 1870's with you playing as Hosea in his prime and raising John and Arthur in the wildwest and maybe even north california/oregon

[@cyclops9750]

Hosea was awesome! And so many others were too!

[@zaxoo9690]

Hosea coughing: Arthur: 🏃‍♂️

[@ivanivanow4642]

5:03 I thought John was playing on a laptop

[@RafaelPereira-dc9ir]

Ivan Ivanow It might happen if it comes to PC with mod s

[@ludwigtheholyblade_777]

John: "Go away, Hosea. I'm trying to play League of Legends."

[@Cornwall.]

Are ya winnin' John?

[@fighter500mx3]

He had to check his LifeInvader page quick before Arthur comes sniffing around as always 👁👃👁

[@kingman-fm4dq]

John was grinding some MW2

[@nicholasrangel7099]

0:21 that’s a dialogue that’s heard in a flashback that John has

[@cant-explain]

This video is a rollercoaster of emotions, I’m smiling and almost laughing sometimes, then sad at the foreshadowing and Hosea coughing and knowing that he’s right and it’s over...

[@shootintheshtpodcast3029]

Hosea being the true father figure for both John and Arthur is truly such a beautiful part of the story that doesn’t get discussed enough, especially when Arthur talks about Hosea in his journal entries

[@MarvinT0606]

and Jack. Hosea gave Jack the most important gift he could possibly have: learning how to read. Jack being a bookworm in the epilogue, you just gotta thank Hosea for that

[@justabiscuit1794]

Always wondered why everyone in camp were constantly like “this is so hard, everything sucks here”. Then I realized that they don’t respawn...

[@turd_man_jones13]

4:17 Arthur gesturing to John to just go along with what Hosea is going about

[@wealthaddict8800]

I really liked Hosea he reminded me of a true cowboy in a way, wise and smart. Loved the outdoors. And much more.

[@tomfliktou7882]

"We're all doomed, just a question of when." I like this sentence because Hosea said the same kind of speech to Lenny once

[@annamarie-k3y]

0:40 "We're all doomed, just a question of when" Hosea: *stares with fear*

[@007Spadge]

The missions with Lenny were cool, but there should have have reserved more screen time for Arthur and John. The relationship between those two is a more interesting dynamic imo

[@Crusader_Jones]

They made these dialogues so well. Interesting how Hosea communicated better with John than Dutch. They both raised him but it’s like if one parent understands their kid a little more than the other

[@GameHead007]

John: “I almost died, Arthur!” Arthur: “Don’t worry, I know.”

[@DinoNuggets7]

Hosea’s voice is always soothing and refreshing to hear. Definitely was one of my favorite characters

[@sisenegellav]

Never underestimate old men with a profession where men usually dies young.

[@nytalix642]

3:05 I like this little interaction between Bill and John

[@Aliasssssssssssssssss]

"Love is the thing... the only thing" the most true words anyone could ever come across

[@whitecat1441]

I love how John and Bill share one bottle now and later they're on each other throat if only micah keep his ball to himself

[@PriestOfFilm]

So ... does Hosea have TB?

[@chezytoro3024]

No he has asthma

[@jeraisnaturalfitness9313]

Atleast he doesn't have Lumbago..

[@codpro627]

Lung disease

[@navidsoleimani2848]

@@codpro627 TB is a lung disease

[@pipb7678]

The rumor is yes

[@chickendrawsdogs3343]

Crazy when Hosea mentioned the "old world" and the time flying by them. Jack Marston definitely would see the news of the Titanic sinking, World War 1 and 2, and by the time the atomic bombs dropped, he would only be 50 - all the while his childhood, he was riding around with cowboys and gunslingers.

[@gamerlordthebest]

If hosea was leader instead of Dutch many people would be alive. The callender boys and Jenny, Sean, Lenny and himself, not letting Micah in the gang, they never would have to worry about pinkertons

[@michealkeane8558]

Hosea: is on screen His lungs: *aight imma head out*

[@pitshants132]

I find Hosea to be the coolest character. Wise, clean cut, and badass in a subtle way. I also love Uncle but for completely different reasons of course

[@ixtowers9281]

when hosea said we both know it's comin at 5:17 is so much more sad after I saw this in my second playthrough

[@konohamaru77]

4:42 you both acting strange recently Me: its called foreshadowing jhon

[@channeljohnnyYT]

i’ve never actually loved and respected a video game character the way i did hosea. he feels so real and genuine to where if he were real he’d never have to pay for a drink again and saddle

[@koolaidman531]

Hosea was low key a favorite of mine. Didn't realize how much I liked his character until the end.

[@razzle2112]

arthur knew they were all doomed

[@ShoNuffKMW]

5:31 Get outta here, lady, I'm trying to eavesdrop, LOL🤣

[@JIMKUltra]

"Be a man, John. It would suit you." Damn...

[@AlastorTheNPDemon]

5:05 LoL I thought Marston was fooling around on a big laptop. I didn't give it a second thought until I realized he was reading a newspaper... then the absurdity of John using a piece of ultra-modern tech dawned on me. Wooooow

[@rorypreston7178]

Arthur definitely caught TB from Hosea. To catch TB you have to be around it for a long time so it makes more sense than Thomas Downes. Hosea keeps alluding to the fact that he's on his way out but he got shot by Milton before it became obvious.

[@matheushubner4888]

Hosea has asthma, not tuberculosis.

[@johnherewaiting9041]

Doc Holliday's girlfriend died of old age...

[@rorypreston7178]

@@johnherewaiting9041 That's true but I'm pretty sure she was lucky in that respect - Doc Holliday caught TB from his mother

[@rorypreston7178]

@@subpain4257 All I'm saying is you're talking about a video game where horses nuts shrink in the cold...

[@akikoivunoksa635]

@@subpain4257 yes of course they do!

[@brandonkatz6791]

Trying to listen in and Ms grimshaw comin outta nowhere with that "WHATS WRONG WITH YOU MR MORGAN"

[@tigrispanthera5496]

4:18 what was Arthur doing with his hand?

[@Tw0Dots]

Directing traffic? I have no clue

[@crizsha7977]

*B O I* 👋🤠

[@brianscott9153]

Its a gesture meaning listen up or since hodesa was looking at Arthur when he did it gesturing to John it could have been like you tell him

[@ludwigtheholyblade_777]

Have no idea lmao.

[@sharpshades]

6:13 “People don’t forget… Nothing gets forgiven.” I like that they added in this line that was in rdr1

[@justliketree27]

Hosea's got a point. "The good old days".

[@ebd9636]

"You can live, and not just live, live for love. Arthur will tell you..." That's some good foreshadowing.

[@mljesus7743]

“Be a man John, it would suit you” - Hosea Mathews

[@Giraffinator]

Hosea: "If we keep hidden-" Dutch: "hey y'all, bank full of gold, ess geddit y'all!"

[@grep67]

Amazing dialogue between these two. Probably the best out of all em...

[@cm-pr2ys]

I miss Hosea almost as much as Arthur. His father figure persona was good to come home to or go exploring with in comparison to Dutch or Micah. I wish he didn’t die but I wonder how he would have held up with the gang falling apart.

[@rubenhinze7695]

5:07 This genuinely looked like a parent trying to talk to his kid who spends all his time on his iPad

[@DeathvoidX9]

For anyone wondering, the outro song is Our Best Selves, or at least a remixed version of it.

[@williamhallmark6431]

John: how you keeping Hosea : never bet........ WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU MR MORGAN!!!

[@TheHakuryu]

4:23 they’re dressed nearly the same-

[@TippedScale]

I theorize that John based this outfit on Hosea's.

[@gingerben9310]

Arthur did a lil hand signal. When John said thanks thanks the both of you. Or something along them lines.

[@jbd1522]

I wish I was a body that died in the game come back alive

[@oliverallen5324]

There’s something to a group of outlaws with biblical names, pondering good and evil.

[@alexpliego6710]

Every time i come to KZbin this is the content i wind up getting, and i couldnt be happier

[@drcalliber732]

I can only imagine how proud Hosea was when Arthur saved John and gave his life up for him.

[@guapoindustries5030]

Man if Arthur had a family I’d probably imagine Hosea had the same talk with him and he definitely regrets not listening

[@kpsa7108]

I tried so hard and did so much to get dialogue like this while playing but just wouldn't happen.

[@icefisher9072]

Man I always like Hosea, this whole clip is just him just trying to get John to get his family and get the hell out of that "doomed" place.

[@bhgameman]

I like how confident Hosea was in his answer. "Is that so?" "Yes."

[@SamDy99]

5:09 For a second I thought "John had a laptop?!!" 😂

[@pacoramon9468]

Hosea is as sick as Arthur in chapter VI.

[@humble3dore405]

Yo I saw the IT trailer above this video and then I saw Jack in the background of this thumbnail

[@aggserp4340]

The foreshadowing in this game is insane. I wish John would get out with his family and Arthur could live out his final years with Mary...

[@bentran1497]

2:19 Hosea roasted Arthur there lol

[@captainbongwater7790]

When you realize you just walked in on an important discussion, but you’ve already said hey, so you just walk away and try to hide: 2:02

[@KIMG69]

Every time Hosea moves, his jacket makes noise. Incredible attention to detail

[@simplialpha2117]

I understand why john had a bit of difficulty deciding what to do...He's a man loyalty and honesty and he honestly was loyal to dutch...till the very end....I think what finally snapped hin out was when dutch left hin to die. He then understood what hosea had been talking about so long agk

[@guilhermeferraz9954]

I just love how Chapter 6 Arthur mirrors Hosea, from his illness to wanting to get the people he loves safe.