Host your own Vercel

Scott and Wes talk about the benefits of owning your own PaaS (platform as a service), the main alternatives in the space, and ways to make passion projects more financially viable.
Show Notes
00:00 Welcome to Syntax!
01:12 Brought to you by Sentry.io.
01:56 What is a PaaS?
04:21 Challenges with payment structures.
07:02 What is Kubernetes?
07:51 What are the differences between Kubernetes and Docker?
09:15 Reasons to own your own PaaS.
15:05 “Pokémon or Web Service”
16:49 The players and their pros and cons.
18:51 Where can you host these services?
19:47 Kubero.
21:50 Coolify.
28:15 Caprover.
29:03 Dokku.
32:53 Piku.
33:24 Cuber.
34:13 Acorn.
36:44 The challenges of hosting your own PaaS.
38:46 Jekyll ran on a PC under a desk.
39:36 Sometimes less is, in fact, more.
40:09 Final thoughts.
45:03 Scott got Bun to work on Coolify.
51:01 Sick Picks + Shameless Plugs.
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[@mrvfino]

Came from the pocketbase video. I like your podcast! It's casual and high level (a good place to start and not get intimidated) :D I also like the affinity towards simple things that just worked and not just what's hyped up!

[@syntaxfm]

Thank you. That’s def the vibe of Syntax. We’re builders.

[@josediaz-gonzalez227]

Dokku maintainer here. I’d love to hear more about what sorts of issues you were running against and seeing if we can’t improve the project. It would be nice if potential project users didn’t have a negative idea of the project due to outdated experiences or that they had a bad onboarding because of something unreported.

[@syntaxfm]

I hope we didn't give the impression that Dokku isn't a great option. It's a fantastic project just that without a gui, it's not for me personally.

[@WesBos]

Hey! I went back to my notes from when I tried it and it was downloading and installing Node on every deploy - couldn't figure out how to get it cache the node version. That was a few years ago - willing to give it a shot again if that has changed

[@jesper.ordrup]

​@@syntaxfmdokku cmd line help (dokku help) is avail for each and very cmd and covers almost everything.

[@syntaxfm]

I have no beef with cli tools, use tons of them, but I don't want to run my projects hosting with one.

[@shorinami]

@@syntaxfm Some projects are introducing UI to dokku, but at the point of now, those are REALLY alphaish thing, with a bunch of bugs.

[@gabeherbert]

Wow, this is my first time seeing you in video after listening since the first episodes of Syntax! 🤯

[@kamalpanhwar3778]

I saw these gusy after long time hearing their Podcast! nice to see their videos and they also changed a lot I guess.

[@eleah2665]

Wes is so excited to show that gripstic. Fun.

[@erikslorenz]

I've been looking for ways to do this. I have most of my work stuff running on azure container apps which is fine.....but sometimes I just want a simple way to run a container and put a reverse proxy in front of it on a vm. Because everyone for years decided having a server was bad. But turns out...servers are pretty good. At the end of the day while we were all avoiding the browser to do things that were better for ux....the browser caught up. Nothing will kill frontend frameworks. The browser will make them obsolete. But reactivity libraries are still useful when they are needed.

[@marble_wraith]

"learned the word kubernetes" 🤣

[@syntaxfm]

We’re just lowly web devs

[@Web-Dev-Codi]

You guys look so hansom!

[@syntaxfm]

😎

[@dacam29]

Nobody uses Docker Swarn in prod nowadays 😅.... Compose for local dev and K8s for prod....try to use a managed service like AWS EKS/Azure AKS if possible

[@syntaxfm]

Interesting to know. Although this ep is specifically about if you don’t want a managed service.

[@B-Amir]

Who knew Mr. Bos, the creator of CSS, has a PHP website?

[@tcaruth]

for those folks with a 3d printer, theres tons of models to get them even cheaper!

[@fille.imgnry]

Dokploy ?

[@AntonEmery]

"Entire rewrite every two months" 😆

[@TheYinyangman]

Scot’s more handsome

[@user-of6ls2ng5l]

Bun

[@stevepottz111]

The subtitles useEffect infinite looper and rewrite every two months had me weak 😆 Not like I can relate or anything lol