Hotone Ampero vs. Mooer GE200 - Metal comparison

[@lovelessjams2720]

So to be completely honest the reason why I come to your channel is because I own an ampero and I didn't really know how to use it that well and your channel has taught me how to use it better

[@TaylorDanley]

That's awesome! Glad I can help 🙌

[@omgwtfbbq2011]

i got my ampero yesterday - i havent put my guitar down since - its so good to program patches

[@TaylorDanley]

Yeah, I didn't think I'd like the touch screen, but I actually really enjoy it

[@omgwtfbbq2011]

@@TaylorDanley yea man i was a bit iffy about it but got on pretty quick with it overall pretty damn happy with the sound quality thus far going to put it through the ringer this weekend for some recording

[@TaylorDanley]

@@omgwtfbbq2011 awesome!

[@KyleTysonMusick]

Definitely helped me in deciding , thanks so much🤘🤘 Thanks for putting signal chains up too🤘 It shows that they really sound good out of the box and with a little bit of tweaking they can sound amazing for the price.Im definitely going with the ge 200 .Keep it metal brother!

[@TaylorDanley]

Awesome, glad it helped you! I tried to make it as honest and direct of a comparison as possible. 🤘🤘

[@Bob48]

Newbie to digital; before now only pedals. Got the GE200 last week...no regrets at all! Half hour or so and I pretty much know all there is to setting it up...quite intuitive. Hours can fly by playing with this rig.

[@TaylorDanley]

Awesome, welcome to the black hole that is tone questing lol. I'm sure you will spend plenty of hours trying to find that "perfect sound"! Congrats, it's a lot of fun!

[@Bob48]

@@TaylorDanley Thanks Talyor. All the best in the New Year.

[@etanramoz]

Wow! The dual rect comparrison.. the mooer sounds like the gain is at 5% and the ampero sounds like its been mixed and produced by nuclear blast!

[@TaylorDanley]

They are quite a bit different. I know dual rectifiers can also vary greatly, so maybe that has something to do with it too.

[@Spark-xu1mu]

For me the GE 200 Wins. The Ampero is a little bit to hissy, but with a little EQing it should be good

[@TaylorDanley]

The first thing I noticed about the ampero was how much top end it had in comparison to the ge200 (or even older modelers like podhd and axefx ultra), and I actually liked that. I'd rather h as very it and not need it than need it and not have it I guess? Lol

[@jcugnoni]

Great comparison congrats! It could be interesting to compare both units using the same IR to have a better idea of the amp modeling differences. Here I mostly here a very different cab/mic with some variation of gain structure. It would be more obvious if the cabs IR where identical.

[@TaylorDanley]

🤔 you sir, have a great point!

[@jeancaspar5365]

Just got my Ampero on friday.... your recent demos really pushed me over the edge to get it! :D Man what an incredible (and tiny) beast!!! Such a tonal improvement over my Katana... and much more versatile too!

[@TaylorDanley]

Right on! Yes, they are very cool! 🤘

[@edbauer8790]

Jean Caspar how are you running it? Into a power amp then a cab? Or into headphones ?

[@jeancaspar5365]

@@edbauer8790 I mainly play through headphones, but I've also tested into the Return of my amp FX loop (then cab). Works fine for both, though the live sound is obviously modified by the cab itself. I'm in the process of selling my amp, but I'm wondering the best way to go... power amp (thinking of something along the lines of Mooer Baby Bomb / EHX Magum 44) + cab OR powered studio monitors.

[@meniredo]

Thanks! It Looks like the ampero sounds more organic than the mooer. That's was a nice help

[@MarcAndreLevesque]

Ampero sounds more open while the Mooer is compressed like crazy, throw some custom IRs and the Ampero will surpass the Mooer by a mile.

[@fivinh0]

GE200 is sounding completely weird. It's not how it sounds. He's using the same EQ preset for both devices and hotone is indeed sounding much better. Probably he found some good EQ settigns on hotone and then ported the same settings to GE200 instead trying to find settings that fit better with Mooer. You can find newer videos from Taylor comparing devices (ge200, hotone, hx stomp and fractal) and GE200 was killing.

[@dissonantstyle]

I wanted to like the Mooer, but I much prefered the way the ampero cuts through the mix. I especially liked the rectifier. Soloed it too hissy sometimes, but it's easier to cut that out than to boost it in. On the Soldano and the rectifier the hiss is nicely balanced out with the copious amounts of bottom end! Must say I own a Engl powerball and these sound absolutely nothing like it. :)

[@cesarpalma2864]

Hi, cool videos! We need a new comparation, The Ampero vs GE250, this one, the GE250, i'm really curious. Keep going, good work! Cheers

[@TaylorDanley]

Thanks! I'll see what I can do.

[@AndyRofe]

Fuck yeah man... New Vid! Thanks for the video mate. Sounds great!

[@AndyRofe]

Also, felt the GE200 was a bit drier but lacked that spongey feel that the ampero had in the full mix settings. Was REALLY surprised at how much I disliked the Ampero when Solo for 5150 and ENGL and noticed how much more fizz it had. The Ampero was way better for the Recto and SLO models though. Would probably sound even better with IRs. Great comparison vid.

[@TaylorDanley]

@@AndyRofe thanks! Yeah, I think a lot of it has to do with keeping the setting the same. You can hear how flat the mooer was, even with the treble and presence pretty high. I think the ampero does sound better overall, but agree better IRs are needed!

[@SusNoodle]

Something I've noticed in these comparisons is the difference in clarity and crispness between them. Is it the mic placement or the type of connections? To be clear I'm of the opinion that the ampero sounds better and less muddy here.

[@Imetalman2000]

I’m still torn. The ampero cuts though the mix better, but the GE200 sounds cleaner when isolated.

[@TaylorDanley]

They both have their pros and cons!

[@PhattaArt]

4:10 so 🤘🤘🤘

[@AdamFreeman123]

First off, great channel man. Second... I don’t know which one I like the sound of better. They both sound good to me, just a bit different. I have a GE200 and I think it’s great but your channel is making me want a Hotone too now! They both sound great, just different. And I kinda like the interface (and extra footswitch) of the Ampero

[@TaylorDanley]

Thanks bro! 🙌 yeah, I feel the same way. They both are great and have awesome value for their price. I moved to the ampero because it has more I/O and has slightly higher fidelity. BUT, hard to tell from videos, those buttons are definitely closer together. If you use the foot switches, its important to know that the extra 1/2 inch the ge200 has in foot switch space makes a huge difference.

[@adamfreeman9559]

@@TaylorDanley oh that is for sure good info to know - thanks man! I saw your other video before I went to bed last night, the part 2 of this shootout using the same IRs and that made it EVEN HARDER for me to decide which one I liked the sound of better, but I trust you when you're saying the Ampero is slightly higher fidelity. I still want one, even if the footswitches might be cramped. Just don't know if I can justify it right now :( - but good thing the GE200 is still awesome AF. Anyways, I'm a big fan of your channel now after last night, awesome content. You have a new subscriber (and whatever you call someone who's clicked the bell... a bell ringer, idk?) - keep up the awesome work!

[@TaylorDanley]

@@adamfreeman9559 😂😂 love it. Bell ringer! Lol! Hell yeah, thanks so much!! 🤘🤘

[@deepstatethrombosis]

Whh is the Ampero gain so wet compared to the mooer? Inlove both for different reasons but i have a chance to get the ge200 for around $150 and I'm having trouble pulling the trigger.

[@runnerba]

AMPERO WINS in my opinion.

[@michaelvaneck_vanaheim]

Really don't understand why u don't have more subscribers. Really good content man. Keep em going!!

[@TaylorDanley]

🤷‍♂️ maybe one day!

[@FilippoBuscemi93]

Great vídeo man thanks a lot :)!!!! Do you double track or you must record one time stereo?

[@TaylorDanley]

2 takes, mixed hard left and hard right.

[@FilippoBuscemi93]

Thanks for the info my friend...so I guess stereo outs os useless for recording guitars....I was Aldo checking stereo reverbs like GFI

[@arkavagoswami3068]

my mind says mooer but heart saying ampero...i think increasing the mids in ampero will be a bit more better tone..ge 200 is a bit mid oriented so it may sit well with the mix but ampero sounds like a more natural amp having that depth though seems a bit mid scooped...if i have to choose one i think i will go wid ampero.great content bro.cheers from India

[@TaylorDanley]

🙌 thanks!

[@benburnett8109]

You are putting out some of the best content out there. would love to see you check out the new Kemper. I think that you would get a ton on new subscribers with Helix vs Kemper shootouts like this. I know, takes lots of money....but you would be the guy for it. You did get excellent tones out of these units though.

[@TaylorDanley]

Hey Ben! Thanks so much man. Maybe one of these days... we'll see if my wife let's me take out a second mortgage LOL.

[@mehegama]

great video! To be honest I didn't like any of them (I used to have the ge200 and remembered it sounding better). The ge200 sounded very dark/muffled while the ampero had loads of this modeller hiss on the high frequences. I guess maybe with a good IR they might sound better? Also the ge200 had less gain. I think these units cannot even go near the big 3. Kepp up the good work!

[@TaylorDanley]

Thanks! You're probably right, I'll have to hunt around for some better IRs. I very rarely use them, so my IR library is weak!

[@lemniscatusofficial]

Here's what i feel 5150, Pball- Mooer, Mesa, soldany (riffs)-ampero. Leads- mooer

[@TaylorDanley]

Thanks for the comment!

[@Aarindammukherjie555]

Mooer sounds better and why there is hiss sound on ampero?

[@GearsyGGAA]

Bob Dimension most likely the ground lift. Mine does this as well unless I use the ground lift switch. The Mooer really has a lot of identical amp tones but the ability to change that up is the variables like cabs, mics, and ir’s. I will say after using both the ampero seems way more versatile imo. A lot of models people have demoed that didn’t do well in shoot outs I found came down to how differently the mic and cabs were voiced. They could technically be named the same models but they’re drastically different across platforms. The ampero actually has amazing amp models that rivals my helix on a few of them

[@Aarindammukherjie555]

@@GearsyGGAA thank you for your eye opening reply. I am really confused whether I should go for ampero or not. All the demos I have seen I observed mooer having mid oriented sound and ampero having high mids. I don't know whether it's just difference in eq or it's the way it is. Another fear is the touch screen panel which I think is a very sensitive part of the unit and most unlikely to get any technical support from ampero in India for any issues related. What do you say on these?

[@GearsyGGAA]

Man is it just me it is the ampero insanely bassy on high gain patches? I’ve really had to play with my cab settings and throw in the para eq block to get a lot of that bottom end out. Great video man!

[@TaylorDanley]

Thanks! 🙌 no, it definitely has more low end than most other modelers, or even amps for that matter

[@Za7a7aZ]

@@TaylorDanley is that a good thing..? I rather have more bottom and tweak it to more less. Than not having that bottom and trying to tweak it present..

[@TaylorDanley]

Yeah, I think so. Better to have and not need than need and not have, isnt that the saying? You can always cut some out with an EQ if it's too much

[@devilslide01]

I feel like Anpero was better EXCEPT on the 5150, but that’s just a personal taste thing maybe. The ampere seemed buzzy on that one

[@wakjob961]

100% with you on that one...sounded like the IR's got turned off for that one. Ampero was impressive overall though.

[@propositionjohnston]

Hi Taylor, what do you think?

[@kirkbuffington6820]

I have the ampero and think it has much better articulation and tone sculpting options than the ge200. I play a baritone 7 in drop g tuning so I need more defined attack and whatnot, the ampero provides a perfect compact answer to my rig needs.

[@TaylorDanley]

I agree. I'm actually going to compare it to an axefx ultra soon. Even though the axefx Ultra is old, they still resell for like $800, so I'm curious to see how the stack up

[@kirkbuffington6820]

@@TaylorDanley I think that would be a great comparison, i know the Ampero sounds much better than my eleven rack so I imagine it'll put up some competition for the Ultra.

[@TaylorDanley]

Thanks for the feedback, I've been sitting on this for a while now, so it's good motivation for me to get it going. In just my brief time with both, I think the ampero still sounds more articulate than the axefx, but I really need to figure how to navigate the axefx UI before I can make an honest comparison. It's so confusing!

[@kirkbuffington6820]

No problem dude! I've only played through an Ultra once and I honestly wasn't in love with it like a lot of people were at the time. I chose an eleven rack over it as a matter of fact. I look forward to the comparison though, you put out rad content.

[@TaylorDanley]

@@kirkbuffington6820 Thanks so much, that means a lot. 🙌 I'll get that guy out here soon. I need to get it back to its owner haha.

[@MrFree-vj8qj]

does the ampero support dual channel for dual amp cabs etc ? thanks one of The main advantage of the Ampero is the acoustic simulation

[@TaylorDanley]

I haven't delved much into the acoustic sims, but there are a ton of IRs that seem to be sims of other instruments or something. No, I dont believe there is a way to do dual cabs... not 100% sure though

[@migionie]

Cool song bro! 🤘🏼

[@Altersolve01]

Man, i Wonder how you programm drums for your shoorouts. We do really need your vid about mixing drums for that vids!!! Please!!!))))

[@TaylorDanley]

I have a live stream called how to mix good (I think), I cover most of it in there!

[@Altersolve01]

@@TaylorDanley super!!! Will watch it asap)

[@Doralex1708]

Both sounds very good but the only thing that matter is which one sounds best to you and also don't forget that the price aren't the same (Ge 200 is 80$ cheaper)

[@atavus_music6611]

Hey, small question: Is possible with the ampero to create stereo patches, like different cabs or amps per output? Thank in advance!

[@TaylorDanley]

Stereo patches, yes. But you only have one cab and amp block to work with so it wouldn't work the way you described. It's more for delay and reverb.

[@atavus_music6611]

@@TaylorDanley Thank you very much! 👍 Sooo this means I will keep using my axefx.

[@TaylorDanley]

@@atavus_music6611 🙌

[@iischia]

Hi Taylor, I am curious about how footswitches capabilities are in the two mx. My 7nderstandong is that Ampero has more options in play mode.

[@TaylorDanley]

Sorry, I'm not sure I understand what your asking. Are you asking about the foot switch controls when using the looper?

[@artwhiz]

Subscribed. Mooer wins out a bit for me (disclosure, I do have a GE300 and a Helix), but I am a gear lover--not a hater (all are welcome to the party). I have a Hotone Heart Attack and Siva Boogie and wouldn't get rid of them. I want a Hotone Captain Sunset as well.

[@TaylorDanley]

Haha awesome! I really enjoy both of then for different reasons, but I definitely prefer the ampero for high gain tones. I know it's not everyone's cup of tea, but I love using tons of saturation with it, it just sounds so good! Thanks for joining the party!

[@VVineTU]

Could Hotone Ampero be used for bass guitar, and as an USB interface too?

[@ThrxeBruno]

Yeap

[@audioengineer86]

Great vid! For some reason I wasn't impressed with the tone of the Fireball and Rectifier models on my GE200 and I see here they are a little... "weak", I guess. I'm still glad I got mine though. I have a Jet City 100HDM and the Mooer model of the same amp is pretty damn close.

[@TaylorDanley]

Yeah, it's still a really cool unit. To me they sound kind of flat and dull in the top end by comparison. The Ampero has really terrific high end articulation by comparison.

[@scottrudeseal5152]

Which do you like more the Mooer or the hotone? Feel and tone in the room as well.

[@TaylorDanley]

It's really hard to say. The Ampero definitely articulates more and sounds a little bit closer to what the actual amps sound like. But with that being said they both sound great, especially for the price range they're in.

[@justokotoeh]

Hi, been struggling lately. I have a Katana MK2 50 and no question it really sounds good and i can simulate tons of patches, however, there are still tones that I can't seem to get. That's why I am considering the Ampero but my concern is, will it fit well with my Katana? please shed me some light about this one. Thanks!

[@TaylorDanley]

No idea, I haven't really dived into the katana world yet. It looks like that amp has a power amp in, which I assume is bypassing the preamp, so if you hook it up that way, it should sound good!

[@justokotoeh]

@@TaylorDanley i´m new to the mechanism of Pedals and Processors and would say I really need to learn a ton of stuff. Been playing a long time but i got stuck into just playing with a normal amp where i´d get to mix things up to get the tones that i want. i´d take your assumption into consideration and will get to learn still how they work. Thanks a bunch! Love your channel btw. Keep it up. :)

[@TaylorDanley]

@@justokotoeh thank you! Yeah this guitar gear goes real deep, welcome to your new obsession!

[@justokotoeh]

@@TaylorDanley haha exactly.. thanks again and be safe

[@joseignaciovalverdeasanza142]

Man your videos are really cool! I think the 5150 and Powerball sounded better on the Mooer, and the other tones sounded better on the Ampero. What I've found with my GE200 is that some amp models sound better than others. Luckily for me the 5150 models (which are the ones I use) are the best sounding IMO. Also, there is a Dual Rec model on the Mooer but it is not included in the unit itself, you have to download it from the mooer site. That dual rec amp sounds a lot better than the tri rec amp (which I've found it sounds bad, at least for me). Keep up with the good videos man!

[@TaylorDanley]

Thanks for the tip, I'll have to go download it! I didn't see it in the list of amp models when I planned this video out. And thanks so much for the kind words! 🤘🙌🤘

[@nazarf1884]

I prefer evh5153 over pv5150 on mooer ge200..

[@johnong2655]

@@nazarf1884 Evh5150 is my most favourite amp in all the multifx out there. Sadly, no evh5150 on the Hotone.

[@TaylorDanley]

Do you mean the 5150iii? There is for sure a 5150 sim on the ampero. Side note, I picked up a original block letter 5150 yesterday.

[@johnong2655]

@@TaylorDanley Ya, I mean the EVH 5150iii, Eddie's signature model. Hope they could put it in future updates, but for now probably just get some custom IRs for that

[@therealjackfisher]

How is this expression pedal? It Sure looks like something that will break if you step too hard on it. I just wonder if it is even usable. I have my old BOSS GT-100 (not 1000) and the pedal on it is super solid.

[@The_PlagueDoctor]

But can you use it with bass too??

[@davidfite1978]

Can you assign channels to all 4 buttons? I would like to have 1-clean, 2-dirty, 3-heavier rhythm, 4-lead ? Or is the 4th button always a button for the exp pedal?

[@metallica3604]

Is the Ampero's touch screen clunky?

[@TaylorDanley]

Actually, no not at all. The tuner is the only clunky feature of the pedal

[@Sleeep1]

This comparison is on the newest patch 2.0 on Mooer? I suprised that fireball is weak... on Gods Cab IR is one of the best high gain amp.

[@TaylorDanley]

Good question, dont remember if air updated before I shot it or not. I also wasn't boosting any of the patches. Maybe that's why 🤷‍♂️

[@RafaelRodrigues-zk9vf]

Consegue disponibilizar esses sons da demonstração ???

[@bboyR08]

Ampero is too great!

[@antshreds]

Makes me even happier I got my ge200 the rythms sound so much clearer

[@TaylorDanley]

They're really great, especially for the price

[@jonnynerot6711]

The Ampero shines!

[@_vez]

Mooer released the Ge150 a few weeks ago you should try it!

[@TaylorDanley]

You're correct, I should! I actually was looking for one, but they aren't on amazon yet!

[@mrdoom3686]

Best video ever

[@xandecareca9092]

Ampero the best Song ever 🤘

[@miENChannel123]

Riff with Ampero, Solo with Moore G200

[@camh4656]

GE200 needs custom IR's from the factory to sound decent, once you load some new IR's mine came to life and sounds closer to the Hotone now :)

[@TaylorDanley]

I did a follow up to this using custom IRs, and they do sound pretty close when you take stock IRs out of the equation

[@NecrosisF]

Please, make an ge300 vs hotone ampero.

[@TaylorDanley]

I would love to! Unfortunately funding the purchase of a ge300 is not in the cards right now 😥. As soon as I can get my hands on one, I'd be thrilled to do it.

[@johnong2655]

@@TaylorDanley rent one?

[@TaylorDanley]

@@johnong2655 from where? I cant find a local dealer.

[@johnong2655]

@@TaylorDanley Sorry. Im not that familiar with the music stores in America. I remembered renting all sort equipment at Long and Mcquade in Canada.

[@keithachrist]

I purchased a Ampero and I’ve been used to playing my system with a tc electronics g system which has 4 input loops so you can have four types of distortion in those inputs I plug my guitar into a wampler compressor first before I go into the g system, g system goes out stereo to tc flashback delay and the to a stryman big sky then to a eventide H9 max then out stereo to 2 Vox AC15s and I dialed in as close as I could the Ampero to try to just get a basic amp tone comparable, but to no avail the Ampero always had this cheap metallic sound that you couldn’t get rid of it seems to be part of the attack of the hits of the guitar when I go through my system is sounds clear and inspiring but anytime I put the Ampero sound in the mix it just felt cheap and uninspired I think these units have a long way to go and it’s not easy to get a really good clean sound I’d focus on your own sound and it starts with a very good clean tone

[@JiTiAr35]

do Mooer GE300 please

[@TaylorDanley]

Would love to! Email Mooer and tell them to send me one! 😎😎😎

[@Ronny1031]

I briefly had a "shit, maybe I should've got the ampero instead?" Moment when I ordered my GE 200, but with the IRs I got from Seacows, honestly I feel like the difference isn't so dramatic. On an unrelated note, that first riff you did reminded me a lot of Adema.

[@TaylorDanley]

Adema!! Haha 😂 It really isn't, they sound very comparable. It just goes to show you how much of your tone is dependent on your cabinet!

[@manfredworner8528]

Got one for Christmas This pedal is more suited for low tuning drop c It cuts right through and sounds a lot better But regular tuning to me you can’t get that It’s way to much mids no matter how much you try to eq or mic or ir it There is no smooth transition iether it’s to high or to dull sounding If you want your drop tuning to cut through this is the pedal Regular for me nooooooo

[@infolalulintas3511]

Mooer more natural i guess. But ampero dual rectifier was insane

[@akaalgaming9537]

I recently started playing guitar again after a decade. So i am looking for a effects pedal. i started from the range of 50£ lol then moved to 150£ i was about to buy a used hd500 but then i found about hd500x and then ge200. Now hotone !! I think its time to put brakes on looking for pedal and just settle with ge200 lol. as the price jump is 100£+ between hotone and mooer here !!

[@TaylorDanley]

The ge200 is great, and if you dont need the extra bells and whistles, I'm sure you'll be totally happy

[@juanfelipemosquera8379]

If you want the mooer to sound more like the ampero don't use a cab it's sounds the same

[@solokavreli]

ge 200 is better for live mixer sound... so ... haha lmao ge200 is crazzzy

[@A7XGuitar999]

Good stuff. I subscribed. For sure liked the Ampero in this vid, but havent given up totally on the Mooer.....heard that the ge250 and ge300 were way better than the 200, plus the tone capture has my interest as well

[@TaylorDanley]

Thanks for the sub 🙌 I know, the tone capture feature is interesting to me as well 🤔

[@teemunator]

Ampero sounds to have more mids and less compression..

[@today_what]

Rhythm tone = Ampero, Lead tone = GE200 is better

[@jaszulni]

Hotone rules

[@AlexBelphegor369]

subscribed!!! :3

[@TaylorDanley]

🙌

[@NiloyAlloy]

Can you plz give me lamb of god patch in mooer ge200

[@joshmaramis6730]

Ampero!

[@Tomario]

IMO the mooer is much better sounding

[@AleksanderLydkunst]

Wow I’m incredibly impressed with the Ampero... thing sounds MASSIVE and much clearer compared to the ge200 IMO... wild! Second half test it does seem a bit more high-end fizzy though but I’m sure that can be eq’d out

[@TaylorDanley]

Agreed. Theres a lot more detail in the top end. The mooer still sounds great though.

[@khiudon]

Ampero....

[@randydye4825]

Hotone all day long

[@radoraf]

The Hotone is more aggressive, the Mooer is warmer.

[@Za7a7aZ]

the ampero is just fatter...more bottom

[@fanisgoulis7917]

Mooer is more real sound...

[@DonaHannah-x8k]

The reverb is crap .going threw a pa mixer its unusable. Dont listen to these KZbin people they lie

[@DonaHannah-x8k]

Theses things are crap dont waist ya money

[@joshmaramis6730]

Ampero!