2016 Chevy Camaro SS Drag Test Auto vs Manual with Jeff Lutz at the Wheel

[@knytrydr73]

Drive what you want the way you want it. A REAL car enthusiast never hates on another person's ride.

[@ElteeMullet]

Only idiots with slow cars toss out the line you just did.

[@NickJanosky]

+ElteeMullet Not really. You need to grow up.

[@ElteeMullet]

I'm 32 white and American, I do the only thing I need to do and that's pay taxes. You're a beta child and you shouldn't be telling grown people that actually know about cars what they should do with their lives. Hope this helps kid.

[@NickJanosky]

+ElteeMullet Why are you telling me that your a 32 year old white taxpayer? I'm a 22 year old tax payer with an 08 mustang gt, not the fastest car but it's alright . The kind of people who put down other people are just angry, insecure people.

[@ElteeMullet]

Kid, you're dumb. Nobody cares about your slow mustang, or your opinion on what kind of people act a certain way. Your a clueless child that knows nothing about the world, and you as a dumb kid shouldn't be telling people to grow up. Now back to your safe space I said mean words.

[@performancetread]

The days of manuals being faster than autos have been gone for a long time. However the days of them being more fun and engaging will never end!

[@quadgod8111]

not really stock clutch's and shifters will be slower and they were most likely were granying shifting

[@KM-px8cs]

In some ways automatic is more fun (even though less engaging) because you can focus on winning and having fun instead of when to time your next shift.

[@bobbyraejohnson]

Kyla M. Exactly you can focus more on the road

[@kgd1163]

BMW M series, Mercedes AMG auto and Tesla proved that

[@rubenscott3972]

Performance Tread 2008 my manual cost 2k more 2016 it cost 4K less young generation help in that

[@Dasam2012]

Craigslist be like "never raced"

[@bigdoo350]

lol agreed!

[@hughmchuh5100]

+Samuel Jones Hilarious

[@miguelrocks1000]

The automatic may be faster, but the manual won't get stolen here in the states. lol

[@samlung2724]

Umm the old honda civics and accords are the most stolen car in the US and they are most likely manuals.

[@dyltack5349]

There all automatic from 2003

[@miguelrocks1000]

You'll be surprised how many people don't know how to drive a manual.

[@marcsmith3881]

+asdf More people know how to drive a manual than you think. I learned in about 10 minutes and never owned a manual vehicle. Once out of first, the rest is simple.

[@dyltack5349]

Only 24% of Americans can drive a stick shift

[@zxtenn]

Those times were only a dream for cars from the 60's, that 115 mph is some serious power down the other end

[@thrashingmetal]

automatic for drag racing, manual for circuit racing

[@miketlane]

you mean like Indy 500 circuit racing? paddle shift automatics. Nascar is still stuck in the 50s running sticks to keep it about the emphasis on the human element. not about building a faster car. baja 1000 trophie trucks are automatics with a sole purpose of moving as fast as possible over off-road terrain

[@fungustmaster]

most if not all modern racing today uses sequential gearboxes because its faster than manual

[@ewcm1878]

@miketlane also to absorb shock.

[@ACommenterOnYouTube]

Lots of guys that circuit race today prefer the auto with paddle shift .. Same as the ones that run thru the curvy mountain roads.

[@hey6982]

Canyon racing**

[@JarradDRS]

I can’t believe that a stock car can be bought brand new for such a good price, full warranty, all the mod-cons, and run a 12 second 1/4 mile. Just awesome.

[@allcoupedup]

great video guys. this channel has always needed more love.

[@brandangillogly9913]

+AllCoupedUp Thanks, we hope to have more videos up soon.

[@itsyaboia-dub1120]

Amazing how much things improve in short time. these cars are faster than my stock 07 gt500. I always wonder just how much weight I can pull out my car and still make it daily driver comfortable and look good. Most ppl just add power but weight is important too.

[@bobjohnson7972]

Can’t believe how fast these cars are factory

[@erichaley4485]

I'm just curious if they had a set of drag radials would they get closer to the 11s.

[@formulacam]

The manual may be a little slower but it's still preferred by at least 80% of car enthusiasts.

[@803boy7]

No fuck that, it's 2016 who gives a FUCK about stick shifts?

[@SomethingFunny454]

+803 Boy People that can drive them.

[@DaBrute]

+803 Boy You obviously can''t drive one

[@lowslo9287]

+803 Boy real men

[@jackcorgiat8154]

+803 Boy People who want to have fun driving

[@maxspeed06]

3:23 wheres the results?

[@strongspeedworks]

They wanna try to make believe that the auto was just faster overall. That manual was coming around.

[@ZeginMakesMusic]

I would really like to know if the paddle shifters were used while in the automatic. If the car is faster in drive mode without the need for paddle shifters, why add the paddle shifters to begin with? I have my own answer to that question. The 5th gen Camaro goes into a 4-cylinder mode whilst in drive to save gas. When you put the car in manual mode and activate the paddle shifters, it is V8 all the way. Shifting while turning is a different story.

[@ACommenterOnYouTube]

In my 98 Supra and my 14 Genesis, the car is MUCH faster when in paddle shift mode over normal Drive .. not sure why though 🤔 and cant find that answer anywhere

[@kanukster]

Ronnie Sox drove a stock 440/6pk to a 13:00 et...46 years ago, Just say'n.

[@lamella64]

+kanukster on this track? in theese weather conditions?

[@woofer2121]

+Gábor Négyesi no but probably on byas ply tires.

[@jamesk10turbo47]

+kanukster true, but if it had to meet the same emissions requirements as todays cars, it would have been an 18 second pile. Likewise, if we never had to conform to emissions, todays cars would be awfully fun.

[@kanukster]

Gábor Négyesi It was in March, on a track that was worse than the tracks nowadays with bias ply tires, full exhaust and no computer tuning.

[@spyfox258]

+kanukster well when you take weight into consideration and the fact the 440 made nearly 500ft/lbs and about 430hp the numbers add up pretty well.

[@MasterCarguy44-pk2dq]

Street tires don't like to much heat. Hence why her automatc was spinning/chirping. Only warm the tires, with little wisp of smoke. No big burn out. Otherwise the street rubber becomes grease.

[@fastguned]

Correct !!!

[@3rdGenGuy]

means running a 11s sec 1/4 is possible with a perfect run

[@jasonparker5746]

+AllyourBaseArebelongToUs Yes, just a matter of time before we see some 11.8-11.9 times bone stock.

[@revmodz1719]

+Jason Parker already people on camaro6 reporting 11.9

[@VaunShiz]

+RevModz it's all about the surface , and what tires your running , so on the streets your not going to see these times.. but definitely fast

[@ZONES89RS]

+matthew von incorrect, two 2016 Camaro SS automatics have run 11.9s with stock tires and paper plates. One hit 117 and the other 118 MPH

[@gentlemonsterkennels]

The 2016 camaro SS is murdering!! Any links to those videos by any chance?

[@SixTwoHemi]

Impressive times with a/c leather cc dvd/mp3 etc etc

[@VaunShiz]

that's all sports cars these days, thank aluminum haha

[@SixTwoHemi]

+matthew von my reply based more on what it took to make cars run these times in the late 80's and 90's

[@KevinSmith-qi5yn]

+6.4L HemiPower Depending on the A/C it may have no impact on horsepower. There is a shift to electric A/Cs instead of ones running off the belt.

[@SixTwoHemi]

+Kevin Smith No disrespect but I think you missed my point.

[@doughboi007]

at least they made the girl feel better by giving her the auto

[@gentlemonsterkennels]

I wish someone could compare the auto and manual on a track course. I want to see who would be faster there so I can base my final decision on whether I'm getting a manual or an auto 2016 SS.

[@WilliamDavis-k8c]

What's the horsepower gain when you go to lighter haead valve would it be 10 hp or 30 hp ?

[@P51]

6-speed WAY more fun to drag race...You can have your 2/10ths.

[@M16xDr0pSh0tz]

+Craig Williams Take them Ls then

[@P51]

Yup. No doubt automatics are faster. Manual way more fun to drive. You're not drag racing every moment behind the wheel. Just what I think.

[@jeffwilliams7669]

+Craig Williams What a lot of people think. Sorry, you are not alone in your assessment.

[@philm262]

Was it just me or did the Gal intentionally neglect to mention Dyno Numbers when the topic came up at about 1:10?

[@jwalt791]

someone correct me but doesn't the manual Camaro come with the no lift shift model I know the last gen did.

[@twayland6186]

haters will say its photoshopped

[@cmoneygaruge]

Did they even use the launch control on the manual?

[@OmegaGreedAK47]

Was the intro filmed in Buffalo, NY?

[@ErickPardo]

This is cool. I'm not a pro and got a 12.639 in my manual last year!

[@tranceformerfx]

One day, Manual enthusiasts and Automatic enthusiasts will coexist....

[@markm5234]

12.2 + CAI+ Exhaust + Tune + stickier tires = damn close running into the 10s.

[@machwon9376]

11s u mean?

[@rjet4321]

I would have loved to see them use the paddle shifters on the automatic cause that's what I have and have no clue how to or when to use them lol

[@aaronmoralesjr1875]

Hear the rpm man and shift accordingly

[@angeladowler3088]

Very nice!!! ❤️🔥. Are you racing sports mode or track mode?

[@Dolby109]

Being a pro drag racer doesn't necessarily make someone great at racing a manual. Essentially all high end drag cars are automatic with big stalls, which is nothing like launching on a clutch, and also shifting manually fast. From the clips shown I can certainly shift faster than their pro did.

[@Stormtrooper-oc4vn]

if its a cvt vs manuel.... its the other way around ???

[@B2008Gx]

Pretty good results for the 8 speed auto, considering it's completely stock and that track is 1145 ft elevation. Run that same auto at a track near sea level in similar weather conditions it should do 12.0x

[@rexberbert8523]

Anyone know the track DA for these runs?

[@ilketama5982]

what is the first name song ?

[@BLINC606]

are the 2010s the same with the Auto being faster? i know the auto SS had an l99 engine while the manual had the ls3. idek about these. anyone have any insight?

[@Tractionless]

You are correct on the LS3 vs L99. The 5th gen manual Camaros were quicker than the automatics because they had more power. Albeit, you need a driver who can row through the gears in the manual. Like in any car, an inexperienced driver with a manual transmission will lose against most of its automatic counterparts.

[@BLINC606]

Tractionless So does the auto in the 6th gen's have the same engine as the Manual hence the faster 1/4 mile.

[@Tractionless]

808sand Blvke Yep. All 6th Gen Camaro SS, auto or manual, come with the same engine, the 455hp LT1. The hp deficit for the automatic is gone, ergo, quicker 1/4 mile than the manual. :) Humans just cannot shift as quickly as a machine.

[@BLINC606]

Tractionless true! thanks

[@blackyoung8732]

808sand Blvke No sloppy slush box automatics anymore. I would never by a manual on a newer car.

[@Zcypot]

There is no way my WRX would be able to keep up with these cars soon. Turbo upgrade is my goal and with a few mods the SS will stomp on me! It is crazy seeing them that light and with that much power.

[@jaimemendiola5512]

I would love to see a new series of Hot Rod Unlimited episodes!! This was a breath of fresh air for Hot Rod Happiness!! Thanx Elanna and Brandon!! Hot Rod Magazine \m/

[@Boostedpony]

I have a 2017 6mt 2ss with NPP and I ran a 12.4 117 bone stock just a half a tank of shell v-power

[@310Cowboys]

She didn't used the paddle shifter on the auto Camaro. Or as they call it techtonic

[@hmackprotection1]

If Lutz would've had a set of DR's on that Auto he would've hit 11.7's..pretty freakin great for a stock N/A car

[@96ej]

looks like you were in my neighborhood for part of the road trip

[@adrianperez-ei6qz]

got to give it to chevy, they just keep winning, I was never a chevy guy, more of a European car guy, but im starting to lean towards American pony cars, they are definitely some impressive cars in the ford,chevy, and dodge line up, and chevy is 10 car lengths ahead on design and performance. its numbers are identical to the m4, that's just insane! thumbs up to chevy and the team

[@amberlynn6914]

"I'm ra in JEFF LUTZ?!"

[@jayveon308]

I was so surprised when Jeff Lutz's came

[@SYN30STM]

would he had beat the automatic camero if the dude driving stick was double clutching?

[@swiggityswootyimcominfodat7078]

SYN30STM double clutching while upshifting.. Yeah. Makes sense.

[@signkutter9218]

Test drove both the Auto and the Standard Camaro SS. The standard is a smooth shifting transmission but the clutch is a bit weighted towards the top of the movement. The Auto-8 is superb in this car, it is very quick shifting and is perfectly matched to the power curve of the motor. I went with the Auto-8 as the manual gives no advantage over the Auto...is in fact inferior to the Auto in everything but price.

[@sukawyam]

Utter slaughter and devastation if this was the 2019 or 2020 Camaro SS with the 10 speed automatic versus the 6 speed manual. How is a 12.9 second for the 6 speed SS( weight 3,685 pounds) any different from the 2020 Camaro V6 with the 10 speed automatic( weight 3,354 pounds)?

[@maritizeshenry4323]

Iam gonna get a lot of hate but I don't need a stick, a automatic is fine by me brother but I will say riding in a manual is fun but I don't like to drive them much

[@samlung2724]

Never got the fun factor of driving a manual. is it fun because you get to change the gears yourself idk?

[@Kenou]

+Sam Lung same here. I can drive manual but I find little fun in doing so. Especially in heavy traffic. I think most bash those who choose not to go manual due to lacking in other areas??

[@ThePepe969]

I know your comment is old but the fun in driving manual is to be a bigger part of your car, having the full control is what make s it so enjoyable.

[@ErectileSceptile]

@@ThePepe969 Another thing is that this test isn't exactly accurate when it comes to racing. Lots of automatic trans suck when it comes to downshifting through corners, whereas my manual I can shift right to th gear I need when I need it.

[@arceniodelgado5652]

Is ok guys, no need justifications to drive automatic. When your lazy, your lazy no question on that.

[@MrUltraworld]

I'm 54 yrs young. My Wife and I figured we've owned 65 cars in our 38 yrs together, not one had an automatic trans. Not once did we feel at a disadvantage. or feel like we needed an auto trans.

[@DuaneHallgren]

Do you want a cookie dude?

[@MrUltraworld]

Duane Hallgren Are you a auto trans girlie man?

[@DuaneHallgren]

Fred Garvin No I asked you if you wanted a cookie, you old fuck.

[@DuaneHallgren]

Fred Garvin Go fart dust elsewhere.

[@brucewayne-gj1bq]

way to be a dick for no reason

[@MasterCarguy44-pk2dq]

Hey HOT ROD, the proper words are "quick", for acceleration time and "fast"for 1/4 mi mph.

[@meldinssti3311]

Would love to see this on some older muscle cars 70s and 80s

[@cgr88m]

just needs some drag radials for better 60ft

[@shayneconway1081]

Ive actually taught myself and had a ton of practice no lift shifting in my 2019 ss 6speed manual and after a month i finally beat my buddies 2019 10 speed auto ss in the quarter mile.

[@vervity344]

does no lift shift damage the car is the long run or have you had any issues with your car?

[@shayneconway1081]

@@vervity344 my Camaro has a no lift shift program. I stay in the throttle and while I'm clutching and tossing it into the next gear the engine cuts to 5,500 rpm until you let out the clutch. It's actually a pretty cool system.

[@vervity344]

@@shayneconway1081 yeah ik my car has it too but dont wanna use it just incase it causes any extra wear or damage in the long run unless im fr racing but have you had any issues with your car so far?

[@shayneconway1081]

@@vervity344 the way the system is set up actually protects the engine from over revving. The clutch is going to always take the majority of the torque abuse regardless. But I have not had any issues whatsoever. These cars are built to take the abuse. I'm upgrading my clutch and axles soon.

[@vervity344]

@@shayneconway1081 alr bro thankyou so much

[@kelvinchannel9592]

damn he did a burnout like a hellcat lol

[@jimmyfreeze3782]

2:38 mark...drag racing is not like golf. You don't get a head start.

[@jasonparker5746]

Looks like the manual was trapping slightly higher.

[@philm262]

Yeah, I was seeing the same thing. Funny that at the end of the video we got 1/4 mile times to 2 decimal places but they rounded the trap speed to the nearest MPH. My gut feeling tells me that the Manual is trapping higher due to probably putting more power down.

[@darrenmcfeaters6683]

what no magical unicorn 11s?

[@vernonprice5986]

+Darren McFeaters These times seemed slow to me so it's likely they were at higher than sea level or hotter than normal or something like that. On a sea level fast track, high 11s should be possible.

[@seppel3850]

I don´t get how much "hate" you get if you say "I drive automatic" or "I prefer manual". What do so much guys care about others transmission? Well I want to buy a Camaro soon, but I´m still not sure about the transmission. On the one hand during traffic jam AT is very nice, but on the other hand it´s kind of boring aswell. Big point for me is the AFM. I don´t trust in systems like that, don´t know why. I also don´t buy a V8 that goes V4 when idle... ;-)

[@ArcturusS550]

no excuses here. people put manuals transmissions up against automatics in the worst way possible. it takes more than 1 or 2 passes hell even ten pass down the track to achieve better times in a manual transmission. that and people not knowing the cars power band along with that to go with crap launches kill 1/4 mile times. the manual should be quicker of the line if the driver could launch at a high rpm. however with the amount of power in todays cars it makes it hard to and traction becomes an issue. dump the clutch, pull of a good 60 ft and get a set of slicks and the manual should be just as quick as the auto. and fyi there are cars that get better 0-60 and 1/4 mile times wth the manual trans so the car is also a factor.

[@woofer2121]

"these days" automatics were always quicker at the strip.

[@dilsher12]

Stock autos out of the showroom were always slower than their manual counterpart

[@icool247]

+dilsher12 Not anymore. The 8speed auto C7 is also quicker than the manual C7

[@woofer2121]

iCool247 autos were always quicker on the drag strip.

[@anx1300c]

Lol, no they weren't.

[@redtra236]

Up until the early 2000's Manual was always faster if the driver was good. Older automatics are just horrible especially 60's and 70's autos. Surprisingly the first autos(1950s) aren't half bad but for drag racing they wouldn't be good.

[@krannification]

Maybe auto are faster but with a manual trans you're more involved and it's more fun as a daily unless you only drive in the city with heavy traffic and lights everywhere plus it's cheaper and easier to repair.

[@bman99ss]

+krannification I live smack dab in the middle of L.A., and manuals are still more fun to drive . . .

[@Miguelc271086]

We need a circuit race.

[@matrox]

The Late Grumpy Jenkins would teach a thing or two to Lutz on how to Shift to win.

[@joat9105]

normal auto or dct that is?

[@evanbozajian2795]

faldy antono traditional torque converter auto. Not a DCT.

[@stromghouls]

d'ont care about the 0,2 sec advantage for the auto. i'd take the manual over any auto, cvt, pdk you name it. manual =fun and control,lighter weight and more reliable and less expensive. I am glad the manual transmission is still being made for enthusiast today.

[@icool247]

+erik freedom You can still put the auto in manual mode though. You'll just have a lagging shift time unless you plan ahead for the shift

[@lsx_moe]

Jeff is a living legend

[@Joejoefitness]

I have driven manual all my life. I kinda hate that soon everything will be auto

[@Jason607]

When you get into the power that the SS makes, the automatics have a real advantage. I'm really surprised that the auto didn't have more of a lead, but it seemed that it always got that lead off the line, then they were dead even. Much more effecient at putting the power down from a stop. I bet in a road course, or if they were accelerating from a roll, the manual would be equal if not have the advantage. Still though, the manual is more fun, and well, put some sticky tires on the back of there and I think the advantage would go the other way.

[@thedominicanway9682]

I'm wishing that chevy can bring the old skool back for one's please the Mustang already there we just need you come on nikka

[@smilsmff]

stating how 60s muscle could not cut it, Chevy BBH , Ford ,Hemi etc, flow on newer small block engines , is whats different and tires along with twice as many gears, match components being all ewqual and equal results , just look at record holder small Blocks for NHRA Stock class, 10s are easy for most small blocks

[@cemsengul16]

Whats sad is this the old 8 speed automatic. Imagine they had a rematch in the 2019 Camaro that has the 10 speed.

[@Mctsep]

Wow! New camaro is badass!

[@sukawyam]

Utter slaughter and devastation if this was the 2019 or 2020 Camaro SS with the 10 speed automatic versus the 6 speed manual. How is a 12.9 second for the 6 speed SS( weight 3,685 pounds with the engine chugging to its 6500 rpm redline) any different from the 2020 Camaro V6 with the 10 speed automatic( weight 3,354 pounds and absolutely blitzing its 7000 rpm redline in a heartbeat)?

[@ACommenterOnYouTube]

What i dont understand is how these 8 or 9 or 10 speed auto's faster than say a 4 or 5 speed automatic ?? I feel the 8, 9, 10 speeds would shift too fast while the 4 or 5 speed would have more mph per gear.

[@zacharysia104]

I work at the car wash they show in the beginning!!!

[@Ricochet1616]

Wow these sixth gens are impressive. My cammed 5g has about 100 more (crank) horsepower than these and I'm still in the 12's.

[@dominicsosa7405]

traction control..lol a idk

[@Ricochet1616]

Yeah, I actually did leave it in competition mode instead of turning everything off. Oops.

[@dominicsosa7405]

These cars a fast though

[@setharnold4093]

Sucks for the person that bought those ragged out SS's! I would be pissed if I found out my car got ragged like this?

[@383mazda]

The new Chevy LFA, I mean GTR, I mean transformer...

[@AutoYoung]

GTR looks like the Camaro not the other way around.

[@383mazda]

+Auto Young umm, GTR re released in 2007, Camaro re released in 2010...

[@AutoYoung]

+383mazda 2009 but that's besides the point. What the heck are you talking about? The cars never looked alike until just now. I'm talking about the cars that were just released and I'm pretty damn sure the 6th gen Camaro released before the new re designed GTR which came out what 2 weeks ago?

[@rocc6596]

Still looks like a camaro to me, gtr looks more like the LFA tbh and and so does the FRE

[@AutoYoung]

+Daniel Oh You can't tell me the just released GTR doesn't look like this car in the front. The wide opening, the way it swoops forward on the front above the DRL's and intakes. Hell, those even look the same.

[@udmbfckx2916]

The Base Camaro 1SS with no options is, at $38K, the performance bargain of the 21st Century.....so far.

[@udmbfckx2916]

Or maybe a Scat Pack (4 door) for around $41K....just make those damn tires bigger!

[@udmbfckx2916]

On the lower cost end, a base auto 370Z can pull a 13.1 1/4 mile and those can be had for a tad under $30K. The bottom item of this 4-some list is the base WRX around $26K. So there you have it: 2 or 4 door. 4 cylinder turbo or multivalve 6 cylinder or huge V-8s. 7 or 8 speed autos or 6 speed manuals. RWD or AWD. THE END.

[@crapdragoon]

I'm already seeing a couple of the 1ss auto camaros for 33K. Quite a deal indeed!

[@illusionmofo]

2016 Genesis Coupe anyone?

[@mrpmj00]

In terms of sales, mustangs outsell 2x camaros, even the Challenger is in 2nd place as of 3/1/2017 ytd. Basically, camaro is overpriced, epsecially because Chevy increased MSRP by $2k.

[@stephenn6657]

That 12.2 in the camaro is equal to a Z51 corvette. Thank you GM

[@vernonprice5986]

+Stephen N Not quite, but it's somewhat close. Z51 Corvette has the same engine but weighs 500 lbs less. Big difference. If you run them both side by side, same track same day same conditions, the Stingray will always win. But the Camaro is much closer now than it used to be, and that's a good thing.

[@braveheart4lif31]

lol the C7's run 11's all depends on DA & driver, but if you're not running 11's in a C7 you're doing something wrong lol.

[@braveheart4lif31]

Also the C7 (Z51) only weighs ~200-300 lbs less than the 6th gen

[@stephenn6657]

William Wallace Stock Z51 autos may run 11.9 I havent seen any proof. However the 6spd verisons are low 12s

[@braveheart4lif31]

Stephen N the 6-speed is an auto, which has actually clocked faster than the 8-speed autos, and the manuals are 7-speeds, which have also managed 11's. Even the 2016 Camaro autos have run 11's.

[@nSmatic]

Its 2016... Automatics are the shit (even for some car enthusiasts like me) But paddle shifters are awesome as fuck

[@cemetery76]

don't use the clutch ram it in every gear

[@shiftlight314]

Jeff you powershifting? LT1 is designed for it.

[@greenwoodcowboy]

Can't wait 2 C what the 2017 ZL1 w/ 640 HP will do in the ¼!

[@bemrocs]

He just said he's not used to driving stick. He may be a great driver, but can he Drive it to its ptoential.

[@TPickle430]

xD You're not supposed to lose the manual transmission skill ever...

[@ruufiss9922]

i just drove a manual for the first time today, and starting up is terrible for me, but everything else is easy. CAR PEOPLE tell me what is so much better about manual?

[@ruufiss9922]

holy fuck.

[@rattlesnakedaddy7566]

I'll take the manual over the slushbox any day of the week. I know auto's have come a long way, but a manual offers the driver much more control over the vehicle in all driving conditions.

[@samlung2724]

Must be fun driving in 2nd gear on the freeway.

[@evanbozajian2795]

Rattlesnakedady true manuals are more engaging but modern autos with a "manual mode" gives you the same amount of control vs a manual. Fastest lap times with cars come from dual clutch auto trans equipped cars.

[@scarface9617]

a 12.2 @115 isn’t bad at all out of a ‘16 8spd SS!

[@Ben762x51]

we've got a turbocharged, built motor, 2011 camaro, putting 690 to the wheels in the shop. somehow the guy only ran a 12.25. LOL

[@xsixinfantryx]

Yeah I have those F1 G:2's in a 305/35/20, things are $450 a pop. Isn't the most expensive tire, but it's enough lol

[@roroyo2708]

she jumped the tree. The tires moved before the green light came on.

[@allterrainadventures3385]

I like them both I have driven both just think the auto was nicer driving every day

[@dobbins2550]

The new SS may not be that good looking, but god damn, they are very quick. GM brought their A game. No 5.0 can match that 12.2. 392 would come close, but not close enough.

[@sasouns]

bet you a boss still beats it

[@devinadams1613]

+sasoun gaspar I bet you it doesn't

[@sasouns]

+Devin Adams it's been known for boss 302s to run high 11s low 12s stock so I think it can

[@devinadams1613]

+sasoun gaspar and that's what these camaros are running low 12s high 11s stock.....sooo I'll refer you back to my previous comment

[@sasouns]

+Devin Adams so a 2012 302 stang competes with a 2016 6.2 maro. lol

[@jonathankeith524]

The manual gets more smiles per gallon though.

[@joebiddy3699]

Who can afford one? No matter how fast or slow it may be

[@DUNEATV]

No kidding! Expensive car that will depreciate fast! It's a Camaro...

[@joebiddy3699]

I have an '80 Z-28 I bought new, and cost about $ 70,000 les than a new one

[@ZONES89RS]

37k for a base SS that will outperform the previous generation 1LE Camaro for 7k less.

[@joebiddy3699]

+ZONES89RS and your point is?

[@ZONES89RS]

+joe biddy you saying 37k is not affordable?

[@rjftransport2682]

Lutz you know those cars arent 450 rwh. To the crank.... 390-410 to rear wheels

[@Hot-1LE]

Hahaha those tires 😂 you did the Camaro well