Houndmaster Fixes, Chucky Nerfs, and More - Patch 8.4.1 - Dead by Daylight

[@hectormanuelprietoparedes9646]

The Doctor's snap out of it randomly fails being fixed is fucking massive. I hated that dumb shit

[@waldomirolealjunior]

yeah, and only took about what, 5 years to get fixed? Nice bhvr

[@KingMaraxus]

I honestly thought it was intentional

[@Kalesauce]

@@KingMaraxus same lmao

[@EchoTheWorld03]

You know what else is massive?

[@benfowler5258]

@@EchoTheWorld03 I thought you'd never ask.

[@EatYOuRNuGGeT]

Chucky's cooldown is basically back to what it was before Scamper nerf, He used to recharge cooldown during the dash and he spent less time in the dash to get hits. the fact that its 14 seconds now, the hit takes longer to get + it no longer recharges during the dash makes it feels identical to his old cooldown.

[@thatfishguy4991]

Atp they just need to bring back the old Chucky that had a really strong ability but a long ass cool down that made it feel okay to play against.

[@DYSCIPL3]

This is honestly fine for me given how much time I put in Chucky already. If they fix his animation bug (which probably isn’t going to happen cause nemesis is still bugged) then he would be perfect at this point. Not too long like before but just long enough that it gives survivors an opportunity to make something

[@geno_xi]

​@R3V3LAT10NStv nah bro he's too slow. Survivors make it to windows and pallets every single time. Hes completely gutted as a 110 killer.

[@YillanTheVillain]

For the Chucky players his changes were... Power Cool-down: +17% Power Duration: +50% Power Speed: -20%

[@CaptToilet]

WHich is trash. Duration means nothing here as once you flick you are locked in place.

[@YillanTheVillain]

@CaptToilet Just tried it in a BOT game. The cooldown isn't too drastic, but the speed decrease is PAINFUL. Makes Good Guy easier to counter for sure, but also better at mobility. It's way easier to cross map scamper.

[@CaptToilet]

@@YillanTheVillain Bots are nice to get a general picture but I bet going against proper players it will show just how bad he will feel. If anything I feel they need to cut the difference between duration and speed. Keep cooldown where its at but give him 10% back in speed and duration.

[@thatfishguy4991]

@@CaptToiletYeah as someone who mostly does bot games they function WAY different than actual matches. I can land every slice and dice against a bot because they don’t try to dodge but real players can pretty easily dodge.

[@boringmonkey6958]

​@@YillanTheVillain Excuse me? Mobility? Cross map scamper? What on Earth are you talking about? You barely make any extra distance due to the speed reduction and you have a long ahh cooldown on top of it. Nobody is using it to get around the map, that's just not a thing.

[@Pyrax-Tunneled-You]

People hate Chucky because they are projecting their hate for short people 😔

[@ZWallAbuser]

and gingers :(

[@MrRivech]

Anyone under 6 feet tall aren't even human beings

[@Liam-mv9zi]

@@ZWallAbusergingers eat souls 😠

[@femboyChristmas]

YEB

[@femboyChristmas]

​@@MrRivech dont insult yourself like that, have some seld confidence

[@isaac_huitzil]

8:45 what I’m thinking it means is that behavior intended houndmaster to keep the haste if the chase starts while in the search path, but they don’t allow her to keep it if the chase has already started and then you walk on the search path

[@snno]

Rip Chucky now become harmless doll

[@swag_katt3096]

Hey Scott, guys here

[@antidreams]

Hey here, Scott guys

[@epicgamerlol8661]

Guys scott, here hey

[@hollowlynx3965]

Here guys, hey Scott

[@baines803]

Scott scott, Scott scott

[@May-gr8bp]

@@baines803 Scott Hey, Hey Hey

[@aaronwhite7935]

Just got Houndmaster adept after the patch went live and can confirm: she is very much still bugged.

[@dbdstuff]

I got her adept as well, never playing her again.

[@blarghwagurder]

Yeah they didn't increase the dog's hurtbox, we have to wait until a mid-chapter for her to be playable. I knew it, have to give her a month like Twins or Trickster.

[@Alice-yq6yy]

yeah the dog's hitbox makes no sense

[@Jo-shin-j7b]

love the fact when it comes to killer perks they revert the nerfs to perks but SOL when you are a survivor, just gutted into oblivion

[@TheOnlyZath]

They didn't change Gunpowder Tin or Spiked Collar they just made them consistent with what the description actually said, but the Marlinspike change was so fucking sad. It was free bloodpoints and guaranteed deep wound on a dog hit, which actually gave good value.

[@anshd927]

Yeah, that was a giga nerf to that addon (the only addon I liked). If anything, that effect should be base kit (on the primary target at least). It's not like houndsense does that much. I'm guessing this is just another case of bhvr going "oh this effect wasn't intended so even though the killer is weak, the effect isn't detrimental, and it's not being complained about we have to fix it because it wasn't intended." The scream addon and thrill weren't touched so it feels like they are suggesting that instead...

[@suitedfox8682]

if a patch note takes Scott more than 5 minutes to delve into then you know its a good one

[@Teroo1234]

4:44 Bro what? You move 20% slower during his dash, this is absolutely HUGE nerf and feels miserable to play. The longer duration doesn't matter, most of the time you use power in short loops and won't get any value from this buff

[@thatfishguy4991]

it almost encourages you to do the least fun and skillful thing you can while playing Chucky which is use slice and dice to gain distance and then just run survivors down using your height.

[@somersfamily]

Agreed, fk playing him now. This dude doesn't know wtf he's talking about

[@bmo7259]

Good, i hope chucky plummets to the bottom of the played list, some killers are just bad designs, chucky, skull merchant, knight all are just forever gonna be ass

[@bootyclap69k]

@@bmo7259he isn’t a bad design, he just needed numbers changes… which he got. And then they kinda gutted him with this patch

[@Teroo1234]

@@bmo7259 "I don't like it so it's bad design" Boo fucking hoo

[@lazypayday4476]

Why is their approach to this god awful killer is "Ah yes, slight buff to basekit, nuke her best add ons" like the fuck?

[@Footballfan896]

I might be doing the wrong kind of math, but I think Chucky will travel 14.4m in his power (1.8sec*8m/s) versus traveling 12m (1.2sec*10m/s). So, he won’t be as explosive, but he can go further than before.

[@jeezuhskriste5759]

No, it’s a strict nerf. He goes 2.4 meters farther, but it takes 0.6 seconds longer. A survivor running for 0.6 seconds will also move 2.4 meters. You gain the exact same amount of distance, it just takes longer to do it.

[@Footballfan896]

@ oh that’s a good point. I forgot to factor in the survivor’s movement.

[@The_Dragon_Tiamat]

@@jeezuhskriste5759 It's an even bigger nerf than you may at first think. Chucky's old dash speed was not and never was 10 m/s The way his dash worked is ti applied a movement speed multiplier when you dashed and the multiplier used to be 1.5, so the full equation used to look like this [4.4*1.5 = 6.6] His old dash went at 6.6 m/s and would cover 7.92 meters in roughly a second. Now right now we don't know what the new multiplier is, but with how sluggish he feels and the fact they said 10 meters to 8 we can assume the multiplier has been lessened by 20% making it 1.2 so now the equation is [4.4*1.2 = 5.28] Again we don't know the new value so this is an assumption but lets just assume that 5.28 m/s is correct. 5.28*1.8 = 9.504 meters traveled in roughly 2 seconds. So all in all he's getting, potentially, an extra 1.584 meters so you're losing distance you would have had with old Chucky now for simply using your power to its fullest. TLDR: Equation for dash is [M*D = S] (M= movement speed D= Dash Multiplier S= Dash Speed) Old Equation [4.4*1.5 = 6.6 m/s] Old Dash Speed times Old Duration [6.6*1.2 = 7.92 meters traveled] New Equation (Potentially) [4.4*1.2 = 5.28 m/s] New Dash Speed (Potentially) times New Duration [5.28*1.8 = 9.504 meters traveled] All in all Chucky gained an extra 1.584 meters (Maybe), however survivors move 2.4 meters in .6 seconds which is the extra time given to the duration meaning in a longer time you gain less distance than before in chase.

[@thatfishguy4991]

Chucky going straight to C with this oml. I still don’t get why Blight has one of the shortest missed attack cool downs and is still 115% and has some of the best mobility and best chase power ever and literally never gets touched.

[@kimjackson906]

I genuinely believe blight needs to be hags speed. It’s insane how strong he is with little drawback .while it’s killer somehow way weaker than him that still manages to have huge drawbacks

[@thatfishguy4991]

@@kimjackson906AGREED. I played against him the other day on Greenville and even though I dodged every rush because his cooldown is so short and because he’s 115% I got hit anyway if I ever tried to leave the loops. Like he either needs that missed cooldown to be changed to 2.7 seconds or he needs to be 110%.

[@Ghost5665]

Guess it's about time I picked up Blight and learnt to console Blight then. Afterall he and Nurse and the only killers you can confidently put time into knowing they're not going to get any major changes for years at a time!

[@Pablo-pr4vg]

@@Ghost5665 A licensed top tier is a safer choice since they aren’t at liberty to just change things as freely, Like Wesker or Dracula (Drac has gotten a lot of changes but after Medusa hair I don’t see them doing any nerfs to his kit for a long time). Also Wesker is pretty good on console compared to killers like Blight who benefit way more from the ability to flick better with a mouse.

[@DYSCIPL3]

@@Pablo-pr4vgI’ve got a P100 wesker and play on ps5. Can confirm his recent changes gave him a good buff and he’s worth learning. Plus you can do huge techs and insta hugs if you put enough time into him. Flicks do take time too but he’s great. Blight is also amazing on console

[@marcusbourchier2245]

The Chucky change is pretty obviously a nerf. The longer duration means absolutely nothing as you only gain about 2.4 meters of distance more than before, while being much slower, meaning the distance "gained" on survivors will be less than those 2.4 meters since survivors get 20% further away from the moment you start your dash than they would have before. If you hit now, you would have probably hit before too, but Chuckys strength wasn't countering survivors holding w anyways. If you miss, too bad. Then you have to wait for 2 seconds longer than before while still being 110%. The slower Slice&Dice feels bad to use too if you're used to the faster speed. Feels like some kind of slowmotion baby version of what it was before.

[@jeezuhskriste5759]

You gain exactly 0 meters of extra distance. Because it takes 0.6 seconds to get those 2.4 “extra” meters, survivors will have been running for 0.6 seconds longer, multiply that by 4 m/s base move speed and they are gaining the exact same 2.4 meters. You are gaining the same amount of distance, except it takes 0.6 seconds longer.

[@marcusbourchier2245]

@@jeezuhskriste5759 Hadn't done the math yet. Thanks, so it's even worse.

[@madpixelyt]

Thats awesome, S tier killers should not exist, thats dumb.

[@marcusbourchier2245]

​@@madpixelyt C and D tier killers shouldn't exist either, but here we are. You think people who want to play actually good killers will gravitate towards playing Pig or Trapper after the Chucky nerf? Or will they just pick good ol reliable Nurse or Blight?

[@madpixelyt]

@@marcusbourchier2245 People that play with s tier killers are just losers that cant win against swf using balanced killers like wesker, pinhead or doctor lol.

[@RagingNeku]

I don't even play DBD anymore I just like to watch Scott's videos

[@Lickwit]

Lol it's the same for me. I only watch scott and otz. I haven't touched the game in over a year

[@Deny399]

Seems like quite a big nerf for Chucky. Basically easier to dodge for survivors and he gets punished more by longer CD. His cooldown is now way higher than when Scamper got removed, which was already quite a big nerf. It used to be 12 seconds and CD started at start of dash, so now it is basically 3,8 seconds longer cooldown. Scamper buff during Dash is mostly useless, so for 0,3 seconds faster scamper he has 4 seconds higher cooldown. Seems like a scam.

[@thatfishguy4991]

I would be okay with the slower dash speed if they brought the cool down back down to 10 seconds. In fact that seems like a very reasonable compromise imo and I’d accept that as a Chucky player. Makes him easier to dodge but you get your power more often.

[@Deny399]

@thatfishguy4991 I would be fine with it, if they also didn't increase Cooldown and also didn't change it cooldown starts when dash ends. He has with those changes only 2.2 sec lower cooldown than when he was able to use scamper. Seems like a terrible trade to me.

[@Joeysworldtour-y7k]

Don’t miss the power then. They always do this, release OP licensed killers at start then nerf them sometime after when they already made profit of that killer. I can’t wait to see the FNAF fans seeing their killer be OP and then get nerfed 2-3 months after lol

[@LordRazer3]

5:05 I recall a certain someone asking for them to delete skull merchant. I also don't recall getting nearly as many DCs playing Chuky as I did playing skull merchant.

[@foomongus2935]

we not making it outta D tier with this one 🔥

[@sellout3979]

Ong wtf is this😂

[@hoonhur5681]

Speaking of which what tier was Chucky during release?

[@МайклНаир]

@@hoonhur5681 strong chase but weak map conrol. so A tier

[@МайклНаир]

@@hoonhur5681 chase was veeery strong because of old scamper

[@Mickeymouse7727]

You mean to tell me that the one thing I've been waiting all week for them to address, the hitbox of the stupid dog, has not been touched!? When wesker had this problem they went back and forth testing out different things with his hitbox until he was perfect and they are going to act like everything is fine?!

[@deepsouth_bul]

Weren't they supposed to nerf Thrill of the hunt? Why are they delaying it

[@ScottJund]

i have no idea

[@Justhunk]

Spaghetti code probably so bad that if they reduce thrill % something entirely unrelated breaks down

[@pootsiii8178]

Another two weeks of Infinite Totem Singularity 🎉🎉🎉

[@dbdstuff]

Next patch

[@crunchycakegaming1507]

watch them killswitch it

[@rorycaire-mccaul634]

Plugged the numbers into chatbot and got this. Catch up distance should be identical but with a bit more time for the survivor to react. Before the change Duration: 1.2 seconds Chucky's speed: 10 m/s Survivor's speed: 4 m/s Chucky's distance: 10m/s×1.2s=12m Survivor's distance: 4m/s×1.2s=4.8m Effective catch-up distance: 12m−4.8m=7.2m After the change Duration: 1.8 seconds Chucky's speed: 8 m/s Survivor's speed: 4 m/s Chucky's distance: 8m/s×1.8s=14.4m Survivor's distance: 4m/s×1.8 s=7.2 m Effective catch-up distance: 14.4m−7.2 m=7.2m

[@ThePowerofCutleries]

For Chucky, the total distance travelled in a Slice & Dice has been slightly buffed, but the slower movement speed will still be felt and is definitely a nerf overall. If there is one thing I'd like to see changed about Chucky it would be slightly better manoeuvrability after scampering. As it stands right now, it's almost impossible to hit a survivor with a scampered Slice & Dice unless the survivor practically runs in a straight line away from the pallet, which you'd have to have like 5 minutes of playtime in DbD total to be doing against Chucky. I don't think it should be head empty levels of easy, but I also think it shouldn't be almost impossible. There is a balance we can reach here.

[@somersfamily]

This fk game. I'm sick of them nerfing chucky. They always know how to fk with the killers shit every time people cry about it

[@Trident_Gaming03]

I still think Houndsense should be applied to grabbed survivors, since currently you have to go out of your way to get the deep wound

[@anshd927]

Agreed. That effect should be base kit instead of just deleted.

[@bringbackthedarkness]

sad they haven't fixed skull merchant's drone bug where low power mode becomes base kit, im not really surprised though, they might be keeping it in the game on purpose

[@rileysullivan4123]

7:12 Actually so pissed, I loved spamming Demogorgon noises

[@crunchycakegaming1507]

after some calculations chucky will be able to travel 2.2 meters farther. However when compared relative to survivor speed, assuming both are moving in a straight line and not accounting for the lunge distance chucky gains at the end since i don’t know how far that goes, the effective range will be the same at 7.2 meters. Also it will be slightly worse for traveling as you’ll gain around 0.6 meters less from using it as compared to before. overall i’d say it’s a nerf but it will make scampers more valuable and should be better for sneak attacks due to the increased distance

[@jesse-714]

Just because ppl don’t like going against chucky doesn’t mean he should get nerfed like this they should learn the counter play crazy how you think this is slight nerf have you played chucky uet?

[@RaidxrXP]

EXACTLY THIS!

[@jamescarrotcsl8]

I can imagine the speed from search mode in chase could lead to a knight / artist gameplay loop where she cuts you off and the counter is holding W

[@mayorexcalibur1282]

Spirit can still hear the husk while phasing but thank GOD her menu theme bug is fixed FINALLY

[@dracog0322]

Istg Behavior hates fun ESPECIALLY as regards Demogorgon. WHY ARE THERE SO MANY INVISIBLE WALLS AND WHY ARE WE ADDING NEW ONES?? I JUST WANT TO FLY AROUND WITH A MID KILLER

[@Dipping_Eggs]

Just tank your framerate while jumping off a ledge & literally teleport to the other side of the map lol

[@deyeti]

Have the Thrill of the Hunt nerfs already gone through then or are they not coming until the next patch? I thought this patch was supposed to have the changes.

[@dbdstuff]

Yeah unfortunately next patch.

[@hiyourerickrightimnegan.3788]

calling a 20% nerf to his speed a 'slight nerf maybe a sidegrade" is wild 😭

[@thatfishguy4991]

Not to mention increasing the cool down again. He has one of the longest power cool downs in the game now despite his power not being nearly as strong as characters like Billy and Blight who function similarly with fast dash attacks.

[@loudwhispre9406]

@@thatfishguy4991 Because his power is a free hit every time. His dash speed being 10 meters/second is INSANE. Blight's rush speed is 9.2 m/s, and is considered one of the fastest speeds in the game, but the speed of the attack portion is noticeably slower, to the point that you can actually 360 a Blight's rush attack pretty reliably. The only way to "dodge" a Chucky Slice and Dice is if the Chucky player just misses. If Chucky's cooldown was shorter, then that means chases can only last as long as his cooldown. A 10 second chase is basically Nurse tier.

[@Its_SaberHG]

​@@loudwhispre9406Yeah when you go against a decent chucky, there really isn't anything you can do

[@SkullKanji]

This 'free hit every time', 'no counterplay against a good Chucky' parroted nonsense is so annoying to hear on every discussion about the character - load of bollocks

[@ScottJund]

i mean the power duration is like 50% longer too. in conjunction yeah its a nerf but not insane or anything IMO

[@boringmonkey6958]

..... more Chucky nerfs? Boy, I'm glad I ended up not maining him. The constant nerfs are kind of embarrassing at this point. Also, what happened to TOTH being touched on this bug fix?

[@lkayde1996]

Yeah I’m glad I’m sticking to myers I love playing chucky but Damn more nerfs

[@BurlapRat]

You'd think they would maybe shore up the bugs and glitches with the other two pet killers we have being Twins/Knight before releasing a fully pet based killer but they didn't and it shows with Houndmaster.

[@jeezuhskriste5759]

What I learned from this patch is that people do not understand how to evaluate speed on killers. So many people in the comments saying you go further with Slice & Dice, pulling up math to “prove” it, and that math doesn’t account for the fact that you are going after someone who is running away from you. Whenever a killer’s speed is changed for a chase-oriented ability, you should be subtracting 4 m/s before comparing the versions to determine if they’re actually gaining/losing distance on a survivor.

[@twiggy7944]

Another small thing they didn't mention is that Singularity still has the audio bug with his power; but oh well. Hope the Houndmaster changes/fixes make her better Edit: Just to clarify, I mean the 2 bugs with Singularity where both your m2 and ctrl abilities can be sound bugged where it keeps making the sound until you start doing the action again, which is annoying when it happens mid-chase since you can't get rid of it without losing a tiny bit of distance on the survivor which could end up being vital to a chase sometimes unless they're locked in a loop with dead-zones everywhere else.

[@antoninbertin-denis9545]

This bug exists for like 1 year now. Or at least it is fix and unfix every now and then. I rarely play this killer for this reason...

[@Bahzur]

I play Singularity often, what audio bug do you mean?

[@raiderofstuff4253]

​@@BahzurI don't know if it's the same one this person is talking about, but I often get an issue where using my power starts playing the noise of holding out Singularity's M2 like you're placing a biopod, just constantly hearing the "whirrrr" until you hold M2 again

[@Bahzur]

@@raiderofstuff4253 I have never had that bug...

[@crunchycakegaming1507]

@@Bahzurprobably because it’s fairly rare to the point where it barely even happens and so easy to fix that it’s hard to notice. it may have even happened to you without you noticing

[@Alice-yq6yy]

the only nerf I would give to the Houndmaster: The dog should not bite you when you unhook. Like how the Knight's gueards vanish when you unhook

[@dachieclippz9826]

Hello I’m from 2025 has The Champion been bug fixed yet? The camera mini game to dispel him doesn’t function half the time. Madison’s cosmetics are also still all bugged.

[@ronanjoyce9862]

Oh wow Whats springtrap like? They do the fnaf justice?

[@dachieclippz9826]

who tf is springtrap you mean The Mimic??

[@alsenddrake7764]

You went the wrong way my friend

[@siredquinn]

I think you mean the new stranger things chapter 2 killer..

[@LoganHunter82]

Let me guess... You bought the time machine from Temu?

[@pyroronnie2473]

Chucky is now almost as useless as freddy and sm

[@_Szerman_]

7:02 I Actually submitted the report for the bugged archive 9 days ago, surprised they did something (I found out about it because I'm finishing every tome out of pure boredom, the archive was to reset a pallet with any means and stun the killer with it)

[@DelonixRegia04]

Chucky goes from 12m to 14.2m, but i wouldn't really consider it a buff unless they increase the speed at which you can turn

[@Rabbit-o-witz]

I hate the way BHVR does balance sometimes. When they buff something amd decide to nerf something else nobody complained about just because. I feel like its a way for them to say "see? We're not overbuffing. We're B A L A N C I N G".

[@j.j.cheesman7141]

Plus 1 sub for being the first content creator to talk about this bug fix when I looked it up.

[@casedistorted]

“Behavior hates fun” you’ve got that right. Remember when they removed Ultrawide and it took them like 8 years to add a basic FOV slider?

[@lucas0sz]

So according to the patch notes, Chucky used to travel 1.2*10=12 meters, now travels 1.8*8=14.4, so 2.4 meters further, but also takes 1.8-1.2=0.6 seconds longer to travel the full distance. During this time, a survivor is able to run 4*0.6=2.4 meters, which is exactly the extra distance Chucky is getting, so it all sorta cancels out, but is probably a net nerf since survivors have more time to react.

[@javondrake3660]

so when Vecna is flying over a pallet I can’t block him anymore, or when he is trying to fly through a window, I can’t blocked the window?

[@dawnsluna5702]

I know Houndmaster isn't really a GOOD killer, but these bugfixes, particularly the Search Path Speed one, make me a bit more interested in how she might peform. Particularly since Search has such a short cooldown.

[@Emmetlovesredvelvet13]

So long story short, houndmaster houndsense was improved and add ons got tweaked, chucky is less punishing, myers got a close range buff, dark lords Medusa hair was gutted, human greed was buffed and weave attunement was reverted but it keeps the survivors ability to see their items aura.

[@SeeNogDBDYT]

Sooo... trapper with how many addons equals a hound master?

[@CounterGoose53]

They need to make freeing a survivor from the dog take longer. If they have any teammates near them the power literally does nothing.

[@zenerstorm95]

Would be nice if they had made houndmasters terror radius music louder so you can actually hear it at the intended max range, but ill take what i can get

[@beeboop5158]

Chucky was so much fun before this nerf he his dash is criminally slow

[@DulfyBee]

I'm surprised Scott didn't mentioned the invocation change under the perk bug fix section (second bullet point)

[@kansaimon8319]

I just played a game where the hound master grabbed me using snug while I body blocked for a teammate at the gate. The gate blocked as usual but the difference here was that the cool down change meant she could snug me again before the entity block ran out. She is a really easy killer to play against but damn, that was enough dbd for a day.

[@elfkaze]

IS Chucky the most hated? I feel like a lot of the hatred went away after the removal of the guaranteed hit at pallets. I think Knight is the most hated killer with multiple frustrating things about him that BHVR has only buffed.

[@Penkoffi]

Chucky overall got nerfed but he seems more fair to verse and he's still pretty good, i like these changes

[@ZombieGangster]

Have you seen/played him?? He’s super slow and incredibly easy to dodge 😂 these are horrible changes

[@Penkoffi]

@ZombieGangster Yes, I have him at p100 and I've always loved playing as him and I did try these changes, they're a nerf and I like how he is now, that doesn't mean that you or other people must like them as well. The only thing that I kinda disagree with is the 2 more seconds added to his cooldown, 1 second would've been enough in my opinion

[@your.Charlotte]

I don't understand the female survivor Huntress memento mori change. Can someone elaborate?

[@Dragon20038]

I agree that houndmaster’s held back. By bugs but saying she’s really bad is just wrong imo, when she works she’s pretty good

[@buraaqwasti7729]

I played a little today and being in chase with the search path feels like old speed merchant

[@ac1dirty362]

Finally fixed the doctor breaking out of madness bug, honestly don't gaf about anything these patch notes except for that.

[@kermoots9261]

Patch Jund reading some Scott Notes

[@MichealAfton19838]

Does anyone know when they are going to fix Spirits bug where she makes sounds when phasing its super annoying

[@Gaminghex31]

I went into a match as chucky today without even noticing the patch notes,and I thought it felt strange.. and honestly sluggish. Why not just leave viable/fun killers as is

[@Garroosh]

Love whenever they buff things they feel the need to nerf the killer too, even if they are as bad as houndmaster or perfectly fine.

[@SeriouslyCasual20]

I wish you would add gameplay with these instead of just reading thru the patch on paper and making fan theories

[@weskuhplayuh]

yeah none of the Houndmaster add on changes seem to be wrong or they were wrong on release

[@tcole2475]

What about Skull Merchant drone deploy bug?

[@worromot]

It's not a bug it's a feature lol. As a SM enjoyer it's such bs

[@elastico8576]

Scott you should absolutely not miss out on the Human Greed buff. Since it is a aura reading perk, that increase from 3 to 5 seconds is huuuge. Now I will say, on it's own Human Greed is meh, but with Hoarder it now becomes a very strong perk combo with the survivors basically having the side objective of having to do chests.

[@Wolfsong27FlyHalfFullHeart]

The cool down is wonderful stbfl rope knot and you can grab them with the dog no problem, the dogs mapping is a little off with elevation sometimes he just stops if he hits a wall going up a hill or stairs, the worst thing that they didn’t change at all are her search still doesn’t lock on to gens immediately and when you want to cancel your power to mind game it still slows you down immensely my god but she is in a better place just fix her search ability and cool down and she’ll fit right in with the b tier to c+ tier

[@vladspellbinder]

Yeah, the Deviousness gains on Houndmaster are atrocious. You'd have to spend most of the game just farming grabs to get anywhere close to maxing it out. They are not the only Killer that needs their Deviousness numbers tweaked. Even before the move from eight million max to ten million max some Killers just struggle to earn points in that category. Considering it's the one category that differs for each Killer, with only some minor additions in others based on powers, it's understandable the devs have some trouble balancing out the Score Events properly. They often _vastly_ over estimate how much of an action you will be doing and as such have them be low numbers. Some Deviousness Score Events should be double or even triple if not more what they are worth at the moment. Thanks for the video Scott.

[@Tatt3dWonTV]

sooo what about thrill of the hunt???

[@LoganHunter82]

Next patch

[@pootsiii8178]

Very happy for Chuck McGill nerfs but how come Blight and Nurse still get to do all that?

[@SoloVo_]

They’ll probably be nerf in 2025. A lot of people still complain about them

[@MindbenderTTV]

BHVR be like: *Houndmaster breaks a pallet 0.1 seconds faster* -> NERF *Nurse ignores pallets* -> "This is fine" This is some big sister, little sister kind of shit. Wtf...

[@Brawlatron]

Is... Is Thrill still not nerfed? Color me shocked if so

[@ryannem1216]

They are doing another hot fix for it then said it's not ready

[@Jonathanlouisa]

So you are part of the surv crybabies for Chucky now being complete trash. Very disappointed.

[@MsGhoulz]

Medusa's hair was that @#$%in powerful?

[@wachinchonchan]

the chucky thing is a nerf slice and dice last now 1.8 sec more but movements speed is a measly 8 m/s these means that he will move 0,2 less meters the horror

[@themr_wilson]

What feels bad about The Pinlegion is the reveal lasting so long, it just feels rotten to be in chase 44 seconds and still get hit with Deep Wounds. It's too much, even for her

[@psybersloth7330]

Guess I'll have to adjust to the new changes for Chucky, Im not saying these changes are not warranted, but I wish they would've let the recent nerfs stew for a while before further adjustments. Against survivors who know how to counter, he feels more fair.

[@asterix1912]

Why did they go back to 14 seconds for Chucky? 14 to 10 seconds. One was too much and the other too little so they settled on 12 seconds which was a good in-between number but now they went back to 14 seconds?? What a pain..😩

[@kekprod_]

all the chucky mains crying is crazy 😭 literally nothing u could do against chucky in many scenarios

[@PackinPills]

not me the Chucky nerf can’t stop me got me 6 4KS in a row with the nerf

[@kekprod_]

@@PackinPills ig thats proof the nerf is nothing

[@uggZymoroon]

as a chucky main, I think the slice and dice duration while being slower is a buff. Can confirm It feels like I go further, I hit things comfortably now that I MAYBE would've hit at the tail end of my slice and dice before. Not happy about the cooldown, the drill now feels almost needed as an addon.

[@oulehlajan]

if slower movement is buff for u in S&D, its just skill issue mate, no offense. U wrote total bs. Are u looping with S&D around pallets ? no, u must using his power only for travelling or i dont know how it must be buff for u, just wtf. Even for travelling its nerf

[@Mega174]

I was thinking about buying Chucky glad they are saving me money.

[@WaitWhatWho]

Good perks tbh. Friends To The End is really fun

[@ScottJund]

he's still stronger than most killers in the game. also for the sake of everyone still dont buy him pls ty

[@Mega174]

@@ScottJund 😂

[@The_Cylly]

For the sake of your own enjoyment, give him a try. Odds are, you’ll have fun with him, just know you’re not exactly gonna be making any friends by making chucky so if one of the things you’re considering when picking a killer is survivor fun maybe avoid chucky. Wouldn’t recommend picking your killer that way, however. You may miss a killer you might enjoy.

[@Doncroft1]

​@ScottJund Both biased and based at the same time.

[@GodSendDeathx]

Would love it if the devs actually fixed important stuff instead of random crap like certain outfits not having the right background music. You can't hear flashbangs getting dropped and they blind you when you're locked in the opening locker animation. Had to deal with multiple teams abusing that. Then there's still the zero footsteps or breathing sounds that iron will users have. So glad they brought that perk back. Until this stuff is fixed and killer gets a QoL pass, keep Thrill of the Hunt how it is

[@sirco2166]

It look like a great patch im still going to wait a week so i can see if the new killer get any nerf. I was scare on a panic TOTH nerf but it look like they will wait a bit so i hope they remove the ability of the perk to gain its token back with pentimento next patch like that more player will see that the perk is fine without pentimento and it provide killer with moer build.

[@alexandretellini2677]

No fixing the bug that make Trapper traps not reset ever with his iridescent add-on.

[@fantasee1]

It's kinda crazy that there are no plans to nerf thrill of the hunt... I'm playing on the Asia server at mmr cap and every killer is giga sweaty. If I soloq survivor and I don't bring a map + detectives hunch, it's auto-lose. Although on the killer side it's been pretty fun. The past few days it's been a blast stomping swfs with a 4x hex legion build.

[@conz2929]

Xeno bug still isn't fixed where survs dont take damage with tail attacks while placing turrets. That bug has been in the game for months loll

[@dbdstuff]

Really I didn't know this. I play Queen Xenomorph

[@one_letter__shor6820]

Chucky’s pick/kill rate were already low before these unnecessary nerfs. Survivors: “I haven’t seen a chucky in months!” Yeah because y’all complained to the point where he’s useless

[@thatfishguy4991]

I don’t get how people even manage to lose against him unless they’re playing on a tiny map. I mean sure he’s strong in chase but hes no stronger in chase than someone like spirit, billy, nurse or blight who all have great map traversal too.

[@jinxysaberk]

@@thatfishguy4991i swear the people that complain about him being OP it’s truly a skill issue. i’ve literally never had an issue facing a chucky

[@Pablo-pr4vg]

I don’t know a single survivor who complains about not seeing Chucky, That sounds like cope.

[@profox956]

I see Chucky at least a couple times every time I play. The Chucky mains are just mad they can't BM as effectively as they used to

[@Hybridd27]

This ^

[@DarkenedMarks]

Oh man these houndmaster buffs will go great with the dog getting stuck against walls

[@Jblicky_Roadkill]

Spiked collar, basically gives her a 5th perk. It’s sloppy butcher.

[@killer4516]

Ya, I think Chucky is dead atp. Maybe top of C tier at best now. I haven't tried the changes myself yet, but I know for a fact that speed nerf is going to nuke him. That's not even considering the fact is CD is now what it basically was on launch (stupidly long). No genuine compensation buffs either (duration is stupid and almost nothing; scamper buffs are useless because you can't turn in it). I guess it's not surprising, though. Kill SM, move on to the next. Wonder who will receive the nerfs of death next. Lol

[@madpixelyt]

Thats awesome, he was an s tier killer and people who played with him were used to easy wins. Screw them lol.

[@killer4516]

@madpixelyt That is completely incorrect. Even in his strongest state, he was maybe mid A-tier at best. I won't deny that his skill floor was pretty low, but Chucky wasn't really a problem. If you struggled against Chucky, it was legitimately a skill issue. There are tons of ways to counter his power. If you are having trouble, you likely haven't taken the time to learn the counterplay/become better at survivor. This, much like SM, sets a bad precedent where any perceived "problem killer" by the vocal minority survivor playerbase gets killed. This change not only hurts his viability but hurts his "fun" factor, too. Atp, Chucky players, on average, will have to play even more lame (less cool dashes and such). Also, if you are going to say Chucky players act toxic, that's a player issue, not a Chucky issue. They will just move onto another killer and be toxic again.

[@betasloth]

If the Houndmaster speed line can be used in chase now, I guess I can stop moonwalking and being bashful to keep my speed.

[@jacobcoates7987]

She definitely needs more blood points, the highest Ive gotten on her is a flat 30k

[@TravisTLCdrumming]

I literally said the other week, I just expect random nonsense Chucky nerfs every update. And here we are. Absolutely stupid. Why? Because you sort of maybe kind of have to pay a little bit of attention against Chucky and can’t just brain dead run to big yellow box….. that’s why he gets nerfed.

[@SurvivorRuleBook]

Rip chucky. And watch him get nerfed yet again.

[@PackinPills]

The Chucky nerf is not bad I got me 6 4ks in a row with it