HOUSE OF THE DRAGON 1x6 REACTION - THE PRINCESS AND THE QUEEN - GAME OF THRONES PREQUEL SERIES

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The Media Knights

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Күн бұрын

What's up, Knights, and welcome back to our channel with our reaction and commentary to yet another incredible episode of the House of the Dragon, 1x6, The Princess and the Queen.
This episode was the herald of change, the bud of the bud, the scandals and the lies circulating as each of our characters is moving along in their individual paths that seem to bode only further strife and conflict.
The resentment in each character within this episode was palpable - all of these people are fighting against the shackles that is the Game of Thrones, just trying to navigate the fine line between duty and desire.
We were truly blown away by the cinematic excellence this episode has been, from that mind-blowing first one-take tracking shot to the heart-wrenching acting from everyone.
What did you guys think about this episode?? And for those of you who, like us, haven't read the books, what do you think is gonna happen in the next episodes? Where do you see the characters ending up? And for those of you who have read the books - did we miss anything? Any cool factoids y'all got up your sleeves (who are we kidding, you guys DEFINITELY have some awesome factoids!)?
We want to thank you all again, for the incredible support, the kind comments and the subs. We are truly humbled and so grateful to all of y'all!
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@OfficialMediaKnights
@OfficialMediaKnights 2 жыл бұрын
⚠️⚠️PLEASE READ: All spoiler comments will be removed and the commenter will be banned until the show has ended. Please work with us here, we want this to be a safe place to discuss the show as it is being revealed to us. Thank you for clicking on this video and for your immense support the past weeks! You guys have been nothing but amazing. If you haven't already and if you enjoyed the video hit the like button and subscribe. Rhaenyra is gonna have a very tough time moving forward. What was your favorite part of the show? 😃
@prettynerd4779
@prettynerd4779 2 жыл бұрын
What ticked me off about the scene with Ser Crispy is he blantantly favored Alicient kids when technically Rhaneryas kids outrank them.. Rhanerys kids are the heirs to the IRON Throne and he was cruel to them just because he was jealous that Rhae fell in love and had 3 kids with Ser Harwin Break Beds .. Alicent is jealous too because she has to follow the rules and sleep with the crypt keeper ( love viserys though) .. Both Alicent and Ser Crispy are jealous and angry with Rhaneryra.. As for Lord Larys.. he wanted to kill his father and brother so he could be come Lord of Harrenhal and then he manipulated it to seem like he was doing it for Alicent so she will " owe him" at a later date
@OfficialMediaKnights
@OfficialMediaKnights 2 жыл бұрын
Yes!!! Precisely. He can harbour his resentment towards Rhaenyra all he wants, fine, but why take it out on children dude... They have nothing to do with this and carry no fault on it. Aside from them being his sons, Harwin had a point about teaching cruelty rather than how to fight well and smart. Gah it was so frustrating!
@ryanasencio8299
@ryanasencio8299 11 ай бұрын
It's not just that. They are illegitimate children as well, so it's like an extra slap in the face to him.
@monil2447
@monil2447 Жыл бұрын
I really like your reactions because they are smart and you don't fake them 🙂
@OfficialMediaKnights
@OfficialMediaKnights Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the kind words and support, it means the world to us!
@ricardocastro6320
@ricardocastro6320 2 жыл бұрын
So they didn’t change the casting for Ser cole because he wasn’t in his teens like the others he was already in his 20’s and now he should be in his mid 30’s. Not much of a big difference in the looks dept between 25-34, but very big of your 16 to 26. It’s a 10 year jump but Rhaenyras kids are 7, 5, and 1 day old.
@OfficialMediaKnights
@OfficialMediaKnights 2 жыл бұрын
Makes sense since like you said he was older. So Rhaenyra should be 27 now which definitely requieres a different actress and the same could be said about Alicent. Thank you for commenting! 😃
@LauraGS564
@LauraGS564 2 жыл бұрын
@@OfficialMediaKnights Rhaenyra is late 28 or 29. She was in her late 18 before the time jump.
@OfficialMediaKnights
@OfficialMediaKnights 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for clarifying @Liam Gavsy! This show jumps a lot in time! Looks like things are starting to boil though and I can only assume the elements of the main conflict are starting to show themselves. Can’t wait for the next one man 😃
@user-to3xz5yw5u
@user-to3xz5yw5u 2 жыл бұрын
So glad you guys noticed the parallels between Daemon and Rhaenyra. Both of them have lost their fire and spark and are shying away from their Targaryen roots and trying to fit in and "behave", conform and be content hiding from who they really are while feeling very much lonely. More than one time during the episode they cut from a scene with one of them to a scene with the other, like when they cut from Daemon watching Laena die to Rhaenyra saying goodbye to Harwin. And they both lost their sigificant others to a death by fire, so the parallels were very intentional. It will be interesting to see how their behaviors will change and progress now.
@OfficialMediaKnights
@OfficialMediaKnights 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, that's so kind of you! And absolutely, those parallels are definitely helping build the tension and plot. These two need to get their spark back, as you so wonderfully put it! They need to step up and really fight for what they truly want, and if we get to see that?? Omg what a treat that would be!
@TRS0703
@TRS0703 2 жыл бұрын
Alicent is saying Rhaenyra will try to kill her kids but she’s the one doing it. She’s yelling for the seven kingdoms about the legitimacy of Rhaenyra’s boys, doing that she is basically putting an ax in their neck.
@OfficialMediaKnights
@OfficialMediaKnights 2 жыл бұрын
Precisely!! I feel like the main difference between the two is that Rhaenyra seems to have some kind of introspection, whereas Alicent is convinced she is throwing everyone under the bus for 'honor' or the 'right reasons. I may be wrong though!
@Alewaxon
@Alewaxon 2 жыл бұрын
I mean, to be fair Alicent isn't really shouting the truth at anyone, except to Viserys, she wants him to hear it plain and openly so he stops his denial... The spread of the "rumors" about Rhaenyra aren't really of Alicent's making, it's a natural reaction to a very clear fact... Rhaenyra has been careless and shortsighted with this and in turn has given fuel and tools to Alicent to strengthen Aegon's position, it's a mess of her own creation... Also whoever thinks that Rhaenyra is above killing Alicent kids once Viserys dies and the push and pull for the throne starts then, well, that person is an optimist like no other.
@JerseyBoy489
@JerseyBoy489 2 жыл бұрын
@@Alewaxon What!! Viserys already knows he doesn't care cause it's not big deal to him. Rhaneayre isn't the type to kill her family off rip unlike Alicent dude stop
@Alewaxon
@Alewaxon 2 жыл бұрын
@@JerseyBoy489 Did we watch the same episode? Yes, Viserys knows, but there is a reason he pretends not to and that he is deceiving himself that it isn't true... But it's not because he doesn't care; it's because he knows how dangerous it is for that secret and rumor to become fact and to get lawful confirmation... There would be very little he would be able to do to stop the rising discontent among the other high lords about Rhaenyra's behavior and a bastard son in her line of succession... It is ABSOLUTETLY a big deal to him, that's the reason for all of his "willful ignorance". And yeah, you are clearly very optimistic about Rhaenyra and have rose colored glasses when you see her then... You are in for a ride LOL... Also, little tip or correction for you: Rhaenyra 100% does not see or consider Aegon or any of Alicent's kids "family", like AT ALL... She has never refer to him as "my brother" and has never viewed him as such; he has always been "Alicent's son", never even called him her father's son... her emotional detachment from the family that Viserys started with Alicent has been clear and from the very beginning... Like I said, buckle up for a bumpy ride if you really think that "Rhaenyra isn't capable of doing that"
@JerseyBoy489
@JerseyBoy489 2 жыл бұрын
You straight up prove my point. Viserys is not pushing secret out he is reason she was safe from it. Obviously you don't know what starts the civil war and it's Rhaenyrae so you tried bro
@tannerlink566
@tannerlink566 2 жыл бұрын
It’s so nice that Rhaenyra allowed her husbands boyfriend to come along.
@OfficialMediaKnights
@OfficialMediaKnights 2 жыл бұрын
Seriously though!! She's kept her word and I respect that, like, damn!
@gudhaxer41343
@gudhaxer41343 2 жыл бұрын
Also nice of her husband to let her boyfriend be a dad :)
@OfficialMediaKnights
@OfficialMediaKnights 2 жыл бұрын
Ahah it's a complicated situation, but I truly like the understanding and partnership these two seem to have.
@sultanacatalina465
@sultanacatalina465 2 жыл бұрын
Have you guys noticed that Alicent’s daughter seems to be a dreamer? “He has eyes but I don’t believe he can see” i think it’s about Visarys not being able to see that Rhaenyra’s sons are bastards. Than after Alicent said to Aemond : “you will have a dragon one day” Helaena said “he will have to close an eye” ( foreshadow?) and one more thing. She made a comment about the last ring :”the last ring has no legs at all” . I think that the “ ring” is actually a metaphore for king( the last king has no legs at all) GOT reference? Or maybe some accident for one of the kids? Also nice to see Viserys kissing his late wife Aemma’s ring after Rhaenyra left to Dragonstone.
@OfficialMediaKnights
@OfficialMediaKnights 2 жыл бұрын
RIGHT!!! We did cut a few things to save time for the video's sake, but once we started thinking about what she was saying, we do think it's all going to come up again in the future in some way! And yes, ugh that moment with Viserys and him kissing the ring was gutwrenching!!! What a show man!
@Addam_
@Addam_ 2 жыл бұрын
Since Jacaerys (Jace) the eldest son is 8 and they've been married for 10 years and they agreed to make an heir, I can only assume Laenor was unable (fertility issues?) to get Rhaenyra pregnant. There aren't exactly a lot of people with similar hair to hers running around she can get to father her children, she was kinda damned if she did damned if she didn't. Alicent may have gotten more then she bargained for with Larys Strong, her hands are now bloody.
@OfficialMediaKnights
@OfficialMediaKnights 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, precisely. Due to the time-jump we don't know if Laenor was unable to father his own child due to his preferences or if it was fertility issues. Rhaenyra did what she thought she had to do, and like you said, damned if she did, damned if she didn't. But man, this is gonna bite them in the ass and I'm terrified of seeing the consequences of that catch up to them Also, agreed on Alicent - she still seems to not fully grasp the extent of how far she needs to go in order to get what she wants...
@MAKG435
@MAKG435 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, if people thought she was barren it would also be very bad for her. She was in a very difficult situation. People seem to think Rhaenyra had children with Harwin just for the hell of it, for defiance. Maybe she felt it was the only way, with someone she liked and trusted.
@goldenlockx
@goldenlockx 2 жыл бұрын
Laenor is gay
@АннаК-п4к
@АннаК-п4к 2 жыл бұрын
If you like more lore… Daemon’s mother died when he was around three years old a year after giving birth to his younger brother. She never recovered after this labor. In the series they show us that Daemon is clearly compassionate to women that give birth. Likewise, how he tried to support Rhaenyra when her mother died or when he said that it had been a tragedy later. That being said, I think he gave Laena a choice what to do with her own body. Besides, she wouldn’t have been able to get through the doctor and midwives ( as in case with Rhaenyra’s mother)
@Tooba-K123
@Tooba-K123 2 жыл бұрын
Which is really tragic how he had to watch Laena died😢
@OfficialMediaKnights
@OfficialMediaKnights 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for the comment and yes! Actually it's adding such a more dynamic layer to Daemon!
@goddessofwar_4341
@goddessofwar_4341 Жыл бұрын
Ah yes, Rhanerya, her husband, her boyfriend and her husband’s boyfriend.
@theonewhoismany8072
@theonewhoismany8072 2 жыл бұрын
The notion that fire doesn't burn a Targaryen was disproved by George R.R Martin himself. Targaryens are not immune to fire they are just more resistant. Daenerys didn't burn because of blood magic but after that she got burned multiple times in the books. Daemon didn't burn because you simply don't burn alive by going through disipating flames at that speed. The pockets of air around Caraxes would protect Daemon. Vhagar is a she-dragon from the times when Aegon landed in Westeros. She was born in 52 BC in Dragonstone and was ridden by Queen Visenya Targaryen and later Baelon Targaryen. She was one of the three dragons employed in the conquering of Westeros. She and Caraxes are very close and have flied and battled together before. Caraxes is the former mount of Prince Aemon Targaryen, father of Rhaenys The Queen Who Never Was. Vhagar used to be ridden by Prince Baelon Targaryen, father of Viserys I and Daemon. Both have also participated together in battle when King Jaehaerys I on Vermithor and his sons with Vhagar and Caraxes descended on an invading Dornish fleet and burned every single ship. At this point Vhagar is 167 years old. By the dance she will rival the size of Balerion during Aegon's conquest.
@OfficialMediaKnights
@OfficialMediaKnights 2 жыл бұрын
Oh dude thanks so much for the comment and info! It definitely helps us understand the dragon-lore better - so pumped to see how this is all going to be used in future episodes, or seasons even!
@balerion77
@balerion77 2 жыл бұрын
10:36, There are 2 ways to bond to a dragon I heard. 1) They place the dragon egg in the crib of the baby, if they hatch they're usually bonded at birth. 2) if the egg doesn't hatch in the crib, The Targaryen must CLAIM the Dragon on his / her own to become it's rider. It may be any dragon, Old or young. For example: CARAXES was not born to DAEMON that dragons previous rider was Daemons Uncle AEMON (King Jaehaerys eldest son & Rhaenys Targaryens Father), he had to Claim it by bonding with it when it was already huge.
@OfficialMediaKnights
@OfficialMediaKnights 2 жыл бұрын
Good to know, thank you so much for clarifying things for us! Definitely adds context to the story!
@breezy3392
@breezy3392 Ай бұрын
Why are you putting the names in all caps?
@theAverageJoe25
@theAverageJoe25 Жыл бұрын
As for Cristons lack of aging, remember salt is a great preservative
@OfficialMediaKnights
@OfficialMediaKnights Жыл бұрын
😂 Loved this! Salty as hell!
@luminaratano3935
@luminaratano3935 2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: Vhagar (Laena's dragon) is the last of the three og dragons from Aegon's conquest. His older sister-wife Visenia rode Vhagar during that time. (Aegon rode Balerion and his second sister-wife Rhaenys rode Meraxes but both of those dragons are dead already) So Vhagar is a pretty big deal in this show... It's so cool that we can see her alive 😊
@OfficialMediaKnights
@OfficialMediaKnights 2 жыл бұрын
I KNOW!!! The hype for Vhagar had us so pumped we were kinda stunned into silence by how fricken majestic she is!!!
@beantownbrandon302
@beantownbrandon302 2 жыл бұрын
Another fantastic episode!!! HBO just killing it with their shows. Brilliant writing and character development
@OfficialMediaKnights
@OfficialMediaKnights 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for the comment and yes!!HBO's been killing it and this show is just getting better and better!
@mylesF33
@mylesF33 2 жыл бұрын
It’s going to be SHATTERED
@0912sooli
@0912sooli 2 жыл бұрын
I cant say that writing is brilliant but its definetly better than GOT later seasons
@CharifRocka
@CharifRocka 2 жыл бұрын
@@0912sooli The monologue at the end was brilliant.
@Raskullbx
@Raskullbx 7 ай бұрын
22 minutes in and still 'Who's the father ?' 🤦🏽‍♂️ Me in my boosie voice: C’mon na dawg, c’mon mane!!' 🤣💯
@Xroma09
@Xroma09 2 жыл бұрын
Vhagar had 2 previous riders before laena, so you can have multiple dragonriders for same dragon.
@OfficialMediaKnights
@OfficialMediaKnights 2 жыл бұрын
Good to know! We were wondering how this worked. Thank you for clarifying 😄 happy to know we’ll get to see more Vhagar then
@GuitarMonster86
@GuitarMonster86 2 жыл бұрын
@@OfficialMediaKnights Adding on to this, dragons can have multiple dragonriders, but nobody has ever bonded with multiple dragons. King Viserys rode Balerion once before he died of old age and then never rode another dragon.
@OfficialMediaKnights
@OfficialMediaKnights 2 жыл бұрын
Such interesting lore! I guess you better choose your dragon wisely. It would kinda suck to only ride your dragon once! Thank you for commenting 😃
@theonewhoismany8072
@theonewhoismany8072 2 жыл бұрын
@@OfficialMediaKnights Balerion was so weakened and literally half dead that Viserys only rode him 3 times around King's Landing. By then Balerion was struggling to take to the air. It was originally planned that Viserys would fly Balerion from King's Landing to Dragonstone but he later said that he doesn't believe Balerion had the strength to do it anymore. Not even a year later Balerion died.
@OfficialMediaKnights
@OfficialMediaKnights 2 жыл бұрын
Aw man, that's so sad for Balerion, but yes that makes sense!
@enriqueribeiro6359
@enriqueribeiro6359 Жыл бұрын
Still don't understand how Criston can kill a noble (and also the future King consorts lover) and not be thrown out of the Kingsguard (one of the most prestigious orders in the realm) yet Harwin strong beats a former commoner (yes BEATS not kills and not even that badly) and gets thrown out of the City Watch
@Inuoba
@Inuoba 15 күн бұрын
Exactly what i was thinking
@mamaseesa3122
@mamaseesa3122 2 жыл бұрын
I think Crispy is very similar to the High Sparrow in GOT. They both think they're doing good, doing the right thing, and are completely blind to the fact that they're taking it too far. Very 'holier than thou' types.
@OfficialMediaKnights
@OfficialMediaKnights 2 жыл бұрын
Ahhh interesting similarities, and absolutely on point actually. These make for some of the most terrifying characters as their convictions are so rooted in their personalities!
@kassidywrightson3098
@kassidywrightson3098 2 жыл бұрын
not only did Larys kill his brother, he also killed his father (hand of the king) you said you didnt see a body yet there was a scene with 2 bodies being carried out on stretchers
@OfficialMediaKnights
@OfficialMediaKnights 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment, and we were actually referring to the fact that deaths are usually graphically shown, and this case they did skip over that. We tend to have this rule we joke about that if you don't SEE a death happening, it didn't happen or was purposefully hidden to grant possibility of return for said character. There was much destruction after that fire, clearly, so we weren't too sure if other people had gotten hurt/killed in the setting of that fire. Hope this clears up our thought process!
@kassidywrightson3098
@kassidywrightson3098 2 жыл бұрын
@@OfficialMediaKnights understandable, they basically did that with the hound in GoT, but in my opinion seeing two bodies made it fairly evident that they both were killed and then after when Alicent was saying "this isn't was i asked for etc etc" she was basically meaning i didn't want for you to kill them, but that's just my opinion
@MayhapsYes
@MayhapsYes 2 жыл бұрын
Just a note, if they found out about Rhaenyra's kids are from Harwin, her are her kids would not be killed. Rhaenyra is still the heir and her kids are still hers'. The problem is her kids will no longer be legitimate heirs (bastards). However, their enemies could use this an excuse to eliminate the kids.
@OfficialMediaKnights
@OfficialMediaKnights 2 жыл бұрын
Gotcha! Yeah, to be fair, I would not eliminate the possibility that, upon finding out the children's true parentage, someone would try to kill them all. None of them are safe. Gah, shit just got so complicated and I cannot see a way out 😂😂😂
@Dec4AllTimeAlways
@Dec4AllTimeAlways 2 жыл бұрын
*DAEMON'S* *BOOK* *VS.* *TV* *EVENTS* *SPOILERS* *AHEAD* "Viserys's first wife, Aemma Arryn, died birthing Baelon Targaryen, Viserys' second son, the first having died in the cradle. Baelon died a day after his birth, however. Daemon was observed in a brothel in the Street of Silk making drunken japes about the "heir for a day". When word of this reached the grieving Viserys, the enraged king had Rhaenyra declared heir and Princess of Dragonstone in response to his ungrateful brother's apathy. The furious Daemon resigned from the gold cloaks and flew with Mysaria on Caraxes to Dragonstone, and so was not present for Rhaenyra's ceremony in the Red Keep." What happened in the TV show/Episode 1: Book accurate except we never really see and hear Daemon say, "heir for a day". And perhaps he said it and it was taken out of context? _ "Living on Dragonstone, Daemon impregnated his lover, Mysaria. He wanted to present her with a dragon egg, but the angry Viserys demanded that Daemon return the egg and return to Rhea in the Vale. Daemon sent Mysaria to Lys, but Mysaria's ship sailed through a storm in the narrow sea and Mysaria lost the child. This hardened Daemon against his brother." What happened in the TV show/Episode 2: Daemon does steal an egg but to get Viserys'attention to speak to him and Mysaria never got pregnant. _ "In 106 AC, Daemon and Corlys Velaryon, Lord of the Tides, allied together for a private war for the Stepstones, with Daemon desiring his own kingdom and Corlys wanting to rid the Stepstones of rule by the Triarchy. While Corlys provided the Velaryon fleet, Daemon flew on his dragon, Caraxes, and led an army of adventurers and second sons." "Daemon made many enemies from Lys, Myr, and Tyrosh, and he slew Craghas Drahar in 108 AC. After conquering all but two of the islands, Daemon declared himself King of the Stepstones and the Narrow Sea in 109 AC, being crowned by Corlys the Sea Snake. The Triarchy launched a massive fleet under Racallio Ryndoon to retake the isles, and Dorne joined the alliance against Daemon." What happened in the TV show/Episode 3: This pretty much happened in the show. Just had Daemon losing the war after 3 years. Then added battle scenes that weren't written in the book. In Episode 6, they even mention the Tyroshi captain allying himself to Dorne. _ "Septon Eustace alleged that Daemon had seduced Rhaenyra, taking her maidenhood prior to her sixteenth name day, and that the two had been found by Ser Arryk Cargyll of the Kingsguard. Eustace's tale has Rhaenyra expressing her love for Daemon. The notorious Mushroom instead claimed that Daemon had been providing explicit lessons to the girl in how to seduce her champion, Ser Criston Cole of the Kingsguard, whom the girl was supposedly in love with. When Rhaenyra approached Criston, however, he spurned her. Lyonel Strong, Lord of Harrenhal, counseled the livid Viserys that Daemon should be executed for treason. Eustace, however, reminded the council about the taint of kinslaying, and Daemon was exiled instead. Daemon returned to Bloodstone in the Stepstones and resumed his struggle over his barren kingdom." What happened in the TV show/Episode 4: Daemon seduces Rhaenyra who then seduces Criston and Criston doesn't reject her unlike in the books. There is no Septon Eustace or Mushroom giving these accounts. But Mushroom's account was more accurate to what was shown on TV. _ "In 115 AC, while she was hawking in the Vale, Lady Rhea fell from her horse and cracked her skull upon a stone. She lingered for nine days before finally feeling well enough to leave her bed, only to collapse and die within an hour of rising. Upon learning of Rhea's death, Prince Daemon flew from Bloodstone to put his wife to rest. After arriving in the Vale, however, he claimed the lands, castles, and incomes of House Royce. Runestone passed to a nephew of Lady Rhea, however, and Daemon's claim was dismissed by Lady Jeyne Arryn, who warned him that he was unwelcome in the Vale." What happened in the TV show/Episode 5: Rhea Royce did die from falling from a horse but it's implied that Daemon kills her with the stone. _ "Daemon abandoned the Stepstones and flew to the Vale of Arryn to claim Runestone, which had been Rhea's seat, but he was refused by House Royce. Sent away from the Vale by Lady Jeyne Arryn, Daemon turned to Driftmark, where he laid eyes upon the enchanting Laena Velaryon, the daughter of his friend, Lord Corlys, and he asked the Sea Snake for her hand in marriage. Laena was already betrothed to the son of a late Sealord of Braavos, but Daemon killed the Braavosi with Dark Sister in a duel. While singers say Daemon fell in love with Laena at first sight, others state Daemon married into mighty House Velaryon to check his own descent from power, as he had been pushed far down the line of succession and made many enemies in his adventures." "Because the marriage had been without consent of King Viserys I Targaryen, Daemon and Laena left Westeros for Essos. Mushroom claims the pair went to the ruins of Valyria, but more reliable sources indicate they toured the Free Cities, visiting Pentos, Volantis, Qohor, and Norvos. They returned for some time to Pentos, where they learned that Laena was pregnant, causing their daughters Baela and Rhaena to be born there in 116 AC." "When the twins were half a year old, the family returned to Driftmark. Daemon wrote his brother begging leave to present his daughters to court to receive a royal blessing. The small council advised the king to refuse, but Viserys told Grand Maester Mellos, "Daemon is a father now. He will have changed." "Viserys' daughter, Princess Rhaenyra Targaryen, was wed to Laena's brother, Ser Laenor Velaryon. While Rhaenrya disliked her stepmother, Queen Alicent Hightower, she became fond of Laena, and the two often flew together on their dragons. With the blessing of King Viserys, Rhaenyra betrothed her two eldest sons, Jacaerys and Lucerys Velaryon, to Baela and Rhaena." "Laena died in 120 AC, the Year of the Red Spring, trying to birth a son who died as well." "Harwin died in a fire at Harrenhal that same year, with it also killing his father, Lord Lyonel Strong. The fire was said to be an accident and blamed on the curse of Harrenhal. Other non-mystical suspects included Prince Daemon Targaryen, whose motive would have been eliminating a rival for Princess Rhaenyra's affections; Lord Corlys Velaryon, as revenge for Harwin cuckolding his son; Harwin's brother, Larys, to claim the inheritance of Harrenhal; and King Viserys I, to eliminate the man who brought dishonor on his House." What happened in the TV show/Episode 6: Most of the events with Laena did happen. Or whatever events were shown since it was a 10-year time jump. Harwin and Lyonel did die in a fire at Harrenhal but if was no accident or curse. Larys was the perpetrator. Neither Daemon or Corlys were involved. _ *According* *to* *Mushroom,* Qarl had killed Laenor on behalf of Prince Daemon Targaryen, although there was no shred of proof for this. What happens in the TV show/Episode 7: ????????? My guess is Daemon won't be the one ordering Laenor killed as I believe Laenor will die in the next episode by his newest boyfriend. The one Rhaenyra asked to bring. There is no Mushroom in the TV show unless we assume it's the imp we saw in the Green Wedding for about 2 seconds. Even if that's Mushroom, he had no shred of proof from the book that Daemon had Laenor killed since he's friends with his father and fought alongside Laenor in the Stepstones. Laenor actually saves Daemon's life on Seasmoke.
@OfficialMediaKnights
@OfficialMediaKnights 2 жыл бұрын
First off thank you for your insightful comment man! Just fyi I do have strict rules against spoilers as mentioned in the pin comment. However you did add a spoiler warning so I’ll allow it since I’m sure there’s a bunch of book readers who’d love to have this conversation as well. Thank you for commenting and for sharing your time! We appreciate you
@danmei-mariah-taylor-BL
@danmei-mariah-taylor-BL 2 жыл бұрын
I was laughing with the “super blonde” hahahaha
@OfficialMediaKnights
@OfficialMediaKnights 2 жыл бұрын
Ahahah words had escaped me as you can tell 😂😂😂
@shaan4110
@shaan4110 2 жыл бұрын
The dragon can be bond to different riders like vegahr was riden by agon the conquer sisterwife visenya(also the bearer of dark sister), balarion the black dread agon's dragon was riden by megor the cruel and vesaris but one time then he died after a year because of old age over 200 years old 😊
@OfficialMediaKnights
@OfficialMediaKnights 2 жыл бұрын
Yes! Thanks so much for clarifying that, we weren't too sure and are still playing catch-up with all the lore!
@CreganStark123
@CreganStark123 2 жыл бұрын
And very soon the 👁️ god
@shaan4110
@shaan4110 2 жыл бұрын
I know 😏.................😉
@devwithsoul
@devwithsoul 2 жыл бұрын
Loved the episode,and the actresses were soo good,so basically they are pretty faithful to the book so far,bit changes but most of them are correct
@OfficialMediaKnights
@OfficialMediaKnights 2 жыл бұрын
Right?! The younger actresses set the expectations so high but these two women knocked it out of the park effortlessly!
@Ezbc05
@Ezbc05 Жыл бұрын
Thats one thing im really interested in, is how much they age/increase the size of the dragons during these time jumps.
@OfficialMediaKnights
@OfficialMediaKnights Жыл бұрын
I'd love to see a video someday with size comparisons throughout the season! It would be so cool to see them age 😁
@Ezbc05
@Ezbc05 Жыл бұрын
@@OfficialMediaKnights That would be really cool
@rosalocalinda
@rosalocalinda Жыл бұрын
I'm kinda bummed you guys knew about the time jump. I hadn't watched any media or previews before the show came out so I had no idea there was going to be a time jump and when there were new actors I was dumbfounded
@syedshaheer8547
@syedshaheer8547 2 жыл бұрын
I cant wait for your reaction to sunfyre which is aegon's dragon as mentioned in the episode he's said to be the most beautiful of all targaryen dragons golden in colour with pink wing membranes
@OfficialMediaKnights
@OfficialMediaKnights 2 жыл бұрын
Haha dude we are pumped for that!!! Can't wait to see what else awaits us!
@itsthatgirl98_
@itsthatgirl98_ 2 жыл бұрын
Vhagar is a she-dragon
@OfficialMediaKnights
@OfficialMediaKnights 2 жыл бұрын
YES, she is! She is a stunner, too, it's amazing to see her properly in this episode!
@balerion77
@balerion77 2 жыл бұрын
22:26 , hey guys loving your journey. I'm surprised it took you guys so long to figure out who the Father is, didn't you guys see the looks HARWIN & Rhaenyra were giving each other?. 😆😂
@OfficialMediaKnights
@OfficialMediaKnights 2 жыл бұрын
Loll I mean listen, we caught a vibe but we can't keep up with this show, we thought it was gonna be an affair type deal, not him fathering literally ALL her children 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@RoseGoldGunner09
@RoseGoldGunner09 8 ай бұрын
The length of time it took for yall to figure out the father lol
@nerdwatch1017
@nerdwatch1017 4 ай бұрын
Hell they could have all 3 been in bed then as L gets close to finishing have him close his eyes and R gets on and finishes!!
@jackson857
@jackson857 2 жыл бұрын
22:18 I can't believe it took you to now to realise it. 😂 They made it so obvious.
@OfficialMediaKnights
@OfficialMediaKnights 2 жыл бұрын
Lol, we were actually taking genetics into account as interracial couples (e.g. one Black partner and a white partner) can have children of varying skin-tones due to ancestry. Also, we did catch a vibe between Harwin and Rhaenyra but we did NOT expect him to be daddy to all her kids 😂😂😂
@itsthatgirl98_
@itsthatgirl98_ 2 жыл бұрын
Alicent made a pact with the Devil and now she can't get out!
@OfficialMediaKnights
@OfficialMediaKnights 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly! She should have known what she was getting herself into by creating an alliance with Larys.
@ssaha7947
@ssaha7947 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly that's what happens when most people take such steps without even realising
@alexmarkadonis7179
@alexmarkadonis7179 2 жыл бұрын
I am partial to the theory that Larys Strong is a warg who uses rats. It adds an interesting layer to the scenes where the rats look in on what people are saying and doing.
@OfficialMediaKnights
@OfficialMediaKnights 2 жыл бұрын
Yes!!! We heard about that theory and it actually adds such an eerie and voyeuristic aspect to the show!
@LauraGS564
@LauraGS564 2 жыл бұрын
Daemon does not ignore Baela, guys. He was teaching her High Valyrian.
@OfficialMediaKnights
@OfficialMediaKnights 2 жыл бұрын
Probably for the better, can’t loose the tradition and the language!
@TheReDeeMeR1988
@TheReDeeMeR1988 2 жыл бұрын
6:40 You really thought that Viserys was dead? He just fell down at the wedding but didn't feel like a death scene for a king.
@OfficialMediaKnights
@OfficialMediaKnights 2 жыл бұрын
Eh, George R R Martin writes things very much rooted in reality and grounded - not all deaths will be that of glory or heroism. Sometimes people just die so we did leave some room for that to be the case!
@shaquan749
@shaquan749 2 жыл бұрын
But Alicent was the one that betray Rhaenyra in the first place because she was the one that went behind her friend's back and marry her father
@rahilrameez8635
@rahilrameez8635 2 жыл бұрын
She had no choice , she was in the same position as Raenyra when her father forced her to marry Gaynor , lol . As it has been established women in those times had no choice
@OfficialMediaKnights
@OfficialMediaKnights 2 жыл бұрын
Right, but also Alicent was in an impossible decision - how could she reject the King himself?? I do think that these two ladies could have saved themselves so much heartache had they only realized that they were both the victims of a misogynistic system and that they would have made much better allies than enemies. But alas - here we are!
@shaquan749
@shaquan749 2 жыл бұрын
@@OfficialMediaKnights That's true
@MAKG435
@MAKG435 2 жыл бұрын
@@OfficialMediaKnights Maybe she couldn't reject the king, but Alicent could have told Rhaenyra what Otto had asked her to do before Viserys ordered her not to.
@OfficialMediaKnights
@OfficialMediaKnights 2 жыл бұрын
Fair point, both Rhaenyra and Alicent would have benefitted from being more open with each other!
@angelobrewster6293
@angelobrewster6293 2 жыл бұрын
Vhagar's riders were Visenya Targaryen, Baelon Targaryen (Visery's and Daemon's father) Leana Velaryon and a fourth rider but I won't tell. Also Vhagar is female and she is one of the three original dragons of the conqueror Aegon and his sister Wives. Aegon with Balerion, Rheanys with Meraxes and Visenya with Vhagar. The dragon that nearly roasted Aemond was Dreamfyer a female, she belongs to Heleana, Aegon's and Aemond's sister. Aegon's dragon is Sunfyer, I'm just gonna say your gonna really hate that dragon. Yes Harwin Strong is Rhaenyra's new lover and the father of her three sons. Also Criston became such a bitter, spiteful and a incel.
@OfficialMediaKnights
@OfficialMediaKnights 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for explaining the dragon-lore to us, we're still playing catch-up. Also totally misspoke on Vhagar being female, so our apologies for that! I wonder if Harwin's connection to Rhaenyra was romantic or purely for functional purposes?? There did seem to be a mutual understanding and respect, just couldn't tell if it was affection or even more? And uh, yeah, Criston is kinda reminiscent of the 'I'm a nice guy but will call you a bitch because you didn't wanna date me' type. Sure, we can understand his devastation at 'losing his honor' and the power imbalance between Rhaenyra and him certainly needs to be taken into account but everything he's done afterwards is just, honestly, ridiculous...
@hokagedlo6133
@hokagedlo6133 2 жыл бұрын
Dragons have are both gender technically
@Nacht294
@Nacht294 5 ай бұрын
By definition, Cole isn't an incel but he is bitter for having his oath be broken because the person he was sworn to took advantage of her position over him. It's interesting how Cole is the victim but because he's bitter about it, he's seen as terrible.
@Tyrion2024
@Tyrion2024 2 жыл бұрын
Remember Jon Snow's hair color, a Targaryen and a Stark. When its a Targaryen and a non-Targaryen of darker hair origin, it isn't always silver hair that results. And Larys Strong killed his own brother and father.
@OfficialMediaKnights
@OfficialMediaKnights 2 жыл бұрын
Yes that's very true, as we can see that's what Rhaenyra's children also present with!
@DaMazzaf97
@DaMazzaf97 2 жыл бұрын
that moment when you're baked at 12.35 at night and you realize that while reading the comments, I am a person reacting to people reacting to people reacting 🤨
@OfficialMediaKnights
@OfficialMediaKnights 2 жыл бұрын
It's a reactionception!!! 🧠
@jcb6731
@jcb6731 2 жыл бұрын
Vhagar was one of the original 3 that argon used to conquer westeros. She was the mount to one of his sister wives. I believe she’s around 180 years old.
@OfficialMediaKnights
@OfficialMediaKnights 2 жыл бұрын
Holy shit that's crazy!!! So she's the OG badass basically 😂
@jcb6731
@jcb6731 2 жыл бұрын
@@OfficialMediaKnights basically, she is also like the ancestor of most of the current dragons in the show. I think caraxes is technically her grandson. Also meant aegon not argon.
@OfficialMediaKnights
@OfficialMediaKnights 2 жыл бұрын
Both of those Dragons are a beauty to behold! Our favorite Dragon so far is Caraxes. He’s definitely unique! It makes sense! They teased that Vhagar later eggs somewhere and the number 3 is no coincidence! 😄
@jcb6731
@jcb6731 2 жыл бұрын
@@OfficialMediaKnights Oh the rumor is that dreamfyre is the mother of Danny dragons. Seasmoke is another son of dreamfyre and looks exactly like drogon but pale. Although you’re kinda right since dreamfyre is the daughter of vhagar. All these dragons be related just like their riders lol.
@olgerqefalia1601
@olgerqefalia1601 Жыл бұрын
i've seen a lot of reactors and i hope so much that u dont have info or have seen this series before reacting cause u catch a lot of details pretty quick and this is WOW. I hope this is real cause i am enjoying your reactions and u seem very very smart (hope so). Take it as a compliment!
@daniellylima5568
@daniellylima5568 3 ай бұрын
Pay close attention to what Helena says and it is very important, I wish they had shown us more about Harwin and Laena that watching the series for the agent feels more pain when the characters die, so when I saw the two characters die I was sad for the death of both of them but not to the point of crying for them two characters, you know, I think the writers didn't want to show too much of the two characters for a simple reason and because they probably don't think it's important to the story 28:42 When Laena says she wants her husband back what she married is true because the daemon is depressed and just realizing that he only stays at home reading a book and not sleeping well the daemon gets depressed he misses Viserys and Rhaenyra but he doesn't want to see them, the daemon we know he doesn't see and so 34:09 The daemon had said no with his head but even so Laena died and sad I prefer what they did in the series than the book in the book she loses the baby then she becomes depressed then one night she decides to go to her dragon but on the way she falls down the stairs and dies so I prefer it in the series and it's more exciting because we see her bond with the dragon, Daemon loved his wife so much that he didn't show any sign, he loves her and his daughters only the writers don't show it anymore in the book firewing and blood that he loves his daughters and his wife more Unfortunately, the scriptwriters prefer not to show that there were two deleted scenes, one with the daemon hugging his daughters, the other deleted scene and the daemon sending his daughters to the room because they were seeing the mother in the room trying having the baby so the daemon arrives at the time of Laena's death and was unable to prevent her death 15:15 A curiosity for anyone who has watched Doctor Who, this actor who plays Aegon is the son of David Tennant, he is David, he has worked with Matt, they have both been Doctor Who and now Matt is working with David Tennant's son I recommend you watch Doctor Who, it's very good, this series, if I'm not mistaken, has 13 seasons, it's really worth watching. I recommend you watch Doctor Who.
@Alewaxon
@Alewaxon 2 жыл бұрын
The thing about the dragons and their riders... No, Dragons don't have ONLY ONE rider... Remember, dragons live faaaar longer than humans so they will outlive their riders unless the dragon is very old and the rider young... For example, Vhagar and Laena...Vhagar has had a few riders in her life and she was the dragon of one of Aegon the Conqueror's sister; she is almost 200 years old... Even Caraxes and Daemon, the reason why Caraxes is so big is because he is quite old, he is many decades older than Daemon so Caraxes wasn't born to Daemon by placing his egg in the baby's basket as the tradition demands... Caraxes had another rider, he died and then Daemon as a kid bonded with Caraxes, which was shocking given how volatile Caraxes is, but as you can see, they have very similar personalities... Leana did the same with Vhagar, she accepted Leana when she was 15 and they bonded So yes, give the dragon's life span, if they live long enough they most certainly are going to have many riders... As a general rule of thumb if the dragon is very large you can pretty much be sure that the dragon wasn't "born" to whatever rider it has... The other smallest dragons are the ones that are born to the children and have basically the same age as the kids... Even Rhaenyra with Syrax, we last saw her when Rhaenyra was like 16 and of course so is Syrax since she hatched in Rhaenyra's cradle; but as you saw Syrax was less then half the size of Caraxes and even now, 15+ years later, Syrax would have a decent size, not little by any means, but she also isn't that big... She would need a few more decades to actually be "one of the big ones"
@OfficialMediaKnights
@OfficialMediaKnights 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for the comment and clarifying the lore for us! It's definitely amazing to see much more of the dragons and even the political undertone that creates - having a dragon, which dragon you bond with and why... It's so fascinating and we're so glad you enlightened us with more of these facts so we have more data to fully appreciate the show!
@Alewaxon
@Alewaxon 2 жыл бұрын
@@OfficialMediaKnights Yeah, it's a very interesting aspect of the show and of them as a House... That's their power, the fact that they are the only ones with weapons of mass destruction, AKA "Dragons" 🤣 Also, another little fact in this same category and it's not a spoiler, just a bit of lore... We have now seen the biggest (and oldest) dragon in the world right now, Vhagar; the 2nd one we have seen would be Caraxes, but that's only the ones we have seen clearly... The fact is that many of the dragons, mostly the really big ones that are closer in age and size to Vhagar, are at this point in time without riders... Because of what I said, the fact that they outlive the riders; so there are a couple of BIG, BIG dragons right now that are out of the picture because they have no rider... A couple of them that are above that 100 year old mark and because dragons don't really ever stop growing, the older they are, the larger they are as a general rule; obviously some dragons individually might be genetically bigger than others, just like people who might be the same age but one is taller than the other, some dragons could be a bit younger and still be bigger... Easiest example is the size difference between Drogon and his siblings who are all from the same batch and age; or for example Caraxes, who is a dragon born with some mutations and disfigurations, that's why he looks so different, but that's also what makes him dangerous and also both LOOK bigger and BE bigger than other dragons his age.
@Logan-ei8gc
@Logan-ei8gc 2 жыл бұрын
None of the sides are completely good here..
@OfficialMediaKnights
@OfficialMediaKnights 2 жыл бұрын
Oh absolutely, which is very much in tandem with the theme of HOTD and GOT - none of the characters are purely good nor evil, they all have their complexities and desires and that's what makes it so thrilling to watch!
@Tooba-K123
@Tooba-K123 2 жыл бұрын
I always thought rats were metaphor for greediness and double crossing. Although vultures are seen as much more of a bigger threat for its use of eating the flash out of its prey but the opponent always knows this trait of vulture. So in HOD Otto and Larys are the representation of vulture and rat. The vulture is openly seen as the calculative observant predator that sometimes the prey might willingly let take over cause of its dominance while the rat works sneakily through different holes of shady darkness and cut through the things steadily without letting anyone know but once someone discovers, the damage is already big enough to look past. That’s why I think Larys is the biggest threat that no one is noticing cause of its size (in literal sense his lack of power and physical inability). Daemon really is not himself when he’s away from home and it’s hard to tell if it’s for the good or for the bad. In the books he actually was a good father and husband but the show makes it look like he’s trying to stay down in order to not cause problem for his brother and Rhaenyra’s image but it’s disturbing him inside for various reasons and he didn’t even comfort his daughters after their mother just died. These changes are concerning since it’s some of his good qualities that made him stand out of the future decisions he’ll make, not to mention Lady Rhea actually died on her own after being injured from a horse ride for 9 days. In this 9 days we never heard any claim of hers against Daemon. I think Haelena really foretold Aemond’s fate. While I like Rhaenyra and Laenor’s friendship and I do think Rhaenyra made many mistakes specially in case of Ser Christon but she’s right about him not really being there at his spot which in turn gives people a chance to make comments about the parentage especially with him being so open about his sexuality. Rhaenyra literally offered the most peaceful deal to end the conflict but if Alicent really wanted to end things such as letting her daughter marry Rhaenyra’s kid but she’s more bent on making Aegon heir when he doesn’t want to. At this rate it’ll be a self fulfilling prophecy of starting a war when there was non to begin with and pushing her son to his own destruction. I must say the team did such big justice to Vhagar, also the costume designs and sound effects are so spot on. They did a 💯 better job than Rings of Power in that aspect. Also I’ll say you’ll hate the sunfyre dragon (Aegon) and some of team black decisions by the end of the series if the show really went with the direction of books.
@OfficialMediaKnights
@OfficialMediaKnights 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting idea in regards to rats and vultures! I love the analysis of that and it does work for this. It's interesting to see how interwoven each character's arcs and desires are - the smallest of events turning into full blown butterfly effects, seeing how each character has their good and the bad sides, their flaws and their heroics. You can tell the entire crew of filmmakers is pouring their passion into this in every single aspect, and it shows! Such a thrill to watch this show
@christianpaulobernardo5161
@christianpaulobernardo5161 2 жыл бұрын
Sadly lyonel & harwin were dead, we are left with evil lord palpatine of hotd - larys the devil clubfoot
@OfficialMediaKnights
@OfficialMediaKnights 2 жыл бұрын
Gaaahhh noooooo! I was afraid that that's what happened!!!
@christianpaulobernardo5161
@christianpaulobernardo5161 2 жыл бұрын
@@OfficialMediaKnights larys clubfoot was one of the most evil villains of hotd. We will be watching him for a very long time. An evil manipulator & master puppeteer during the dance of dragons
@OfficialMediaKnights
@OfficialMediaKnights 2 жыл бұрын
Right!! He does seem to be that subtle but very real threat, he's very smart and knows that in order to win, one must do some highly questionable and ruthless things!
@gudhaxer41343
@gudhaxer41343 2 жыл бұрын
We had Littlefinger, Middlefinger (Otto) now we have Bigfoot (Larys)
@jenni5104
@jenni5104 Жыл бұрын
Aegon: *faps out of the window* Me: "Oh, so that's why they call it King's Landing."
@childrenoftheabzu
@childrenoftheabzu 10 ай бұрын
Theyre not mixed or silver haired. Of course he knows.
@datwongai3903
@datwongai3903 Жыл бұрын
Really looking forward to the rest of your reactions to this season. Especially to the praise of the good, strong lads.
@OfficialMediaKnights
@OfficialMediaKnights Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for your consistent support, we appreciate you!! Can't wait to see what you think of the rest!!
@darlenereed4975
@darlenereed4975 Жыл бұрын
Why's he tickling his pickle?😂😂😂😂
@gailf1617
@gailf1617 Жыл бұрын
The young man playing Prince Aegon, Queen Alicent's oldest son, is Ty Tennant, son and grandson of actors playing the "The Doctor" in "Dr. Who". (his father is Ty Tennant, his maternal grandfather is Peter Davison). Ty Tennant's mother is Georgia Moffett (now Georgia Moffett Tennant), who played "The Doctor's Daughter" on an episode of Dr. Who, i.e. a clone of the 10th Doctor (played by David Tennant). Excellent casting of the young princes and ladies of House Targaryen, with a particular shout-out to Leo Ashton, who plays Prince Aemond (Queen Alicent's second son) who so desperately wants a dragon of his very own...
@shockwave1126
@shockwave1126 2 жыл бұрын
Regarding the rats, maybe Larys can warg into them. How does he know the secrets- through the rats.
@OfficialMediaKnights
@OfficialMediaKnights 2 жыл бұрын
Ohhhhhh interesting!!!! Never actually thought about that, that'd be crazy!!!
@SasukeUchiha21072011
@SasukeUchiha21072011 2 жыл бұрын
Alicent lie to his boy. Aegon is no the challenger... Rhaenyra is the only Queen. i hate so much Alicent, from the book and in the show. she's asking for a war that she don't know how fight. because of her the house targaryen lost many powers. the hightowers are the boltons of the targaryens
@OfficialMediaKnights
@OfficialMediaKnights 2 жыл бұрын
It’s greed and the seed of thinking she has any right to the power. Otto made sure his family somehow gained that power. Either by manipulation or force. And now we’re gonna see the extent of all the damage. Part of that is also protecting her own obviously but she has no remorse throwing anybody under the bus.
@SDG.12
@SDG.12 2 жыл бұрын
Alicent : When you're just trying to call out the family th0t, raise an actual man, and hold the realm together through male primogeniture but the audience hates you 😔 Nah lol jokes aside Rhaenyra totally made that offer out of the kindness of her golden heart and pure generosity. It totally wasn't because she is trying to entrench the claim of her illegitimate son. No sir. A flimsy marriage alliance is not gonna save Prince Aegon & Aemond’s lives if Rhaenyra’s spawn by Harwin takes the throne & ppl start calling him what he really is. Blackcest fans swearing this time the Queen they support won't turn out to be a complete psycho. Insert Pepe Silva gif. Moar Girlboss Warlords 👏👏
@OfficialMediaKnights
@OfficialMediaKnights 2 жыл бұрын
Lol ooookay. Lots to unpack here! First of all thanks for the comment, appreciate you taking the time. Secondly - not too big of a fan of the usage of th0t. A young woman exploring her sexual options and experiences does not make her a th0t, and leans into shaming sexual exploration, which when geared towards a woman tends to lean into hypocrisy as we know that plenty of men within HOTD/GOT have done far worse and much more than Rhaenyra and no one out here's calling them th0ts 😂😂😂 I am not too familiar with the books, so I'm strictly going off of what we've seen and inferred from the show. To clarify: yes, incest obviously is wrong, and is an intrinsic moral failing that has been perpetuated not just in fiction, it's something we've witnessed in our own history because at the time, the 'blue bloods' have wanted to keep their line 'pure'. HOTD is no exception to that, especially within the Targaryen lineage. Primogeniture is also still a thing, though it is slowly changing. Yet, Rhaenyra is the only living direct heir to Viserys before his son was born, and making her to-be queen just made sense. Having a son born did put that into question, and having a woman be heir clearly has stirred issues within the court and the people. You see where the rebellion within Rhaenyra is coming out, because she was the first-born and had a claim to the throne but people are getting into a tizzy because she's a woman. Now having said all of this, Alicent's approach and intentions to uphold 'morality' and 'justice' is insufferably sanctimonious and self-serving. Her view of Rhaenyra is rooted within the judgment of her bedding someone before marriage, 'soiling' herself and making her unfit to wed any man because, in Viserys' words, 'who would take her in that state'. Antiquated and ridiculous, but alas that is the world they lived in so Rhaenyra definitely could have made wiser choices in who she got with and how, lol. A knight from the Kingsguard was definitely not the way to go, and as we can see Criston did kinda lose the plot due to this. Not even gonna get into the whole Daemon thing because that's a whole ass essay 😂 Rhaenyra made that offer as a last-ditch effort and yes, definitely was an attempt to resolve things without it getting nasty, because honestly, between both women, that is gonna be what it takes in order to get the throne. Yes, it was in the interest of self-preservation, but also to avoid what is surely to come. The gloves are coming off and the claws are coming out because Alicent is deadset in her lust for the throne for her son and yet she's viewed as a holier than thou, pure little creature. She's just as calculating and manipulative as Rhaenyra, she just happened to marry a king whilst still being 'pure'. We'll have to wait and see if Rhaenyra will turn full on psycho or not, that remains to be seen - I do see both Rhaenyra and Alicent unwilling to admit to themselves that there will have to be bloodshed, especially in the game for the throne, and frankly, that's just how the books have been and how the story is written. Nobody's completely pure and free of guilt here. But I also don't see Alicent being this wholesome woman just trying to do the right thing. The 'right thing' she's trying to accomplish is going to get people killed and her naiveté about her own actions (reaching back into her indirectly causing Otto's banishment) is going to have consequences. We love girlboss warlords here, we've seen and heard of plenty dude warlords so I don't see anything wrong with that 😊
@CaptainLuckyLuke
@CaptainLuckyLuke 2 жыл бұрын
Mothers dying in the effort to try and birth children that are Targaryen is really one of the central plot lines of this whole series. Leana was half Targaryen but even she couldn’t survive the effort of delivering a male child that was pure Targaryen. Her daughters had far more of her bloodline in them than Daemons, hence their easy birth. The book even mentions how much they resemble their grandfather, Lord Corlys. Look at Jon Snows mother. His birth killed her as she wasn’t Targaryen at all. Theirs is a magical bloodline and it drains the mother’s life force. Pure Targaryens can really only breed pure Targaryens with other pure Targaryens easily. So many non Targaryens died in childbirth if you read ‘Fire & Blood’ carefully!! All of the known Targaryen bastards, the ‘Dragonseed’, are orphans. George R.R Martin never has coincidences in his works. Everything is significant!! As far as I can make out Alicents ability to have Targaryen children owes itself to her own lineage. The Hightowers are a family whose origins go back a terrifyingly long time. One can argue they may be the oldest line in Westeros. However, they don’t only have the pedigree of age they also have a very long and well documented exposure to magic. Not blood magic or dragon magic like the Targaryens, but something crueler and darker. The Hightower’s funded and were personally involved in countless experiments into Death magic. I suspect that had a significant impact on the Hightower bloodline. Alicents children are therefore inheritors of two bloodlines that are equal parts blessed and cursed. A truly terrifying legacy!!
@OfficialMediaKnights
@OfficialMediaKnights 2 жыл бұрын
Woooow dude we did NOT know that!!! That's incredible, so disturbing and fascinating all at the same time... Thank you, genuinely, for taking the time to comment this, it really means a lot to us!!
@CaptainLuckyLuke
@CaptainLuckyLuke 2 жыл бұрын
@@OfficialMediaKnights Thanks for taking the time to read my wall of text!!
@OfficialMediaKnights
@OfficialMediaKnights 2 жыл бұрын
Nah dude it was a pleasure, had no clue that mothers dying in childbirth was such a plot line for those reasons and wow... so cool to know!
@CaptainLuckyLuke
@CaptainLuckyLuke 2 жыл бұрын
@@OfficialMediaKnights It’s a fascinating topic really. It’s what led to the theory that Tyrion Lannister is actually a Targaryen. His mother Joanna Lannister died birthing him and was known to be the lover of King Aerys Targaryen II before she married Tywin and she conceived Tyrion only after the king demanded she and Tywin come live at court close to him for ‘reasons’. Non Targaryens attempting to birth Targaryens often result in birth defects, and usually the death of the mother, but the child never survives. The books describe stillborn children that are twisted and deformed. Could Tyrion be the one child that actually survived, albeit as a dwarf? Tywin was aware of his wife’s relationship with the king. Could that be why he hated Tyrion so much? The show certainly hinted at that when they showed the dragons responding to Tyrion when he unchained them, but they didn’t do anything with that plot line. Much like the many many other book plot lines they abandoned. Anyway, food for thought.
@hokagedlo6133
@hokagedlo6133 2 жыл бұрын
Dragons take multiple riders because they live for centuries, humans have only taken 1 dragon in a lifetime because 99% of the time dragons outlive the rider. We never heard of a dragon lord attempting to bond with another dragon so it could be possible, if it ever happens Daenerys will probably be the one. In Got she had all 3 dragons bonded to her in the books it's only Drogon at the moment but the other 2 still respect her.
@OfficialMediaKnights
@OfficialMediaKnights 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment and explanation! Is that where the books have currently left off?
@hokagedlo6133
@hokagedlo6133 2 жыл бұрын
Yes the books are currently in limbo at the moment, Got stopped adapting canon material after s5
@OfficialMediaKnights
@OfficialMediaKnights 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, hopefully GRRM does get to finish those books, but I can also understand how seasons 7 and 8 in particular would have left a bad taste in his mouth
@hokagedlo6133
@hokagedlo6133 2 жыл бұрын
@@OfficialMediaKnights GRRM and the actors of Got have spoken out against s8 in particular more times than I can count, they all knew D and D screwed us over to go make star wars.
@OfficialMediaKnights
@OfficialMediaKnights 2 жыл бұрын
And for no good reason because when Disney and Star Wars saw how much backlash they got for GOT they lost the project anyway!! Ughh greed can be a destructive thing for art.
@surlyGir
@surlyGir 10 ай бұрын
I feel so sorry for Viserys. He so much wanted to just be happy but was never allowed to.
@iryanghimura8041
@iryanghimura8041 Жыл бұрын
Alicunt was the first who betrayed Rahenyra by seducing Viserys bruh!
@0912sooli
@0912sooli 2 жыл бұрын
Most of these moments in the episode were ambigious in the books so personally Im kind of mad at how they explained some of them and I wish we saw more of Harwin and Laena but it is still very good show!
@OfficialMediaKnights
@OfficialMediaKnights 2 жыл бұрын
Likewise! I liked them both very much. It’s a shame we won’t be able to see them again 😞 and interesting that they chose to explain certain aspects. Maybe to save some time?
@phantom213
@phantom213 2 жыл бұрын
I love your reaction, guys! Thank you!
@OfficialMediaKnights
@OfficialMediaKnights 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for the comment and support, it means the world!
@paulabarra5431
@paulabarra5431 2 жыл бұрын
Alicent and Viserys’ children Aegon II his dragon sunfyre Haelena her dragon is dreamfyre Aemond (doesn’t have a dragon yet) Darmon ( he is just a toddler) Rhaenrya & “Laenor’s” (harwin’s) kids Jacearys or Jace his dragon Vermax Lucerys or Luke his dragon Arrax Joffrey (just born) Daemon and Laena’s kids Baela her dragon moondancer Rhaena she has an egg which didn’t hash when she was born So she Carries her little egg anywhere so it can hash.
@OfficialMediaKnights
@OfficialMediaKnights 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for the comment and the overview, definitely gonna make our lives easier haha
@ricardocastro6320
@ricardocastro6320 2 жыл бұрын
Umm Ser Joffrey didn’t deserve to die.
@vishnumohandas602
@vishnumohandas602 2 жыл бұрын
Who do you think will be next Hand of The King now since Lyonel is dead? Will Viserys accept Otto again after all that happened between them? I wish Corlys become the Hand. Also looking forward to your reactions to Inside the episode videos.
@OfficialMediaKnights
@OfficialMediaKnights 2 жыл бұрын
Ohhhh dude I don't know that's a really good question!! It would be possible for Otto to come back, but I'm not sure if Viserys or even Rhaenyra would be alright with that... but I can't think of who else could possibly be the next Hand??
@skullknight4579
@skullknight4579 2 жыл бұрын
poor Lyonel , the guy is probally scared everytime he stands next to king, praying viserys won't notice his part in the gene pool
@OfficialMediaKnights
@OfficialMediaKnights 2 жыл бұрын
Oh my god, poor Lyonel, I can't even imagine!!! And he still tried to be honorable...
@SasukeUchiha21072011
@SasukeUchiha21072011 2 жыл бұрын
Aegon has the age that Rob Stark had when he was named King in the North. Jacaerys has just 11 here...
@OfficialMediaKnights
@OfficialMediaKnights 2 жыл бұрын
Crazy to think back then Rob was so young as well! Thank you for sharing 😃
@KevinDiazx11
@KevinDiazx11 2 жыл бұрын
😂 wow they really didn’t notice went the kids said mother 😂 right in your nose 🤦🏽‍♂️😂 and how you didn’t y’all connected that harwin is the dad 😂 they are his image 🤦🏽‍♂️😂 Jesus
@OfficialMediaKnights
@OfficialMediaKnights 2 жыл бұрын
hey dude! watching it while you comment is different than watching it at home. You miss some details in the immediate moment but if I remember correctly literally seconds after they say mom we call out the fact that they're her kids haha and yeah as soon as we saw the baby we didn't immediately assume it was Harwin's but we definitely knew they weren't Sir Laenors. We have our suspicions but we can't call out anything too early either or some of you guys would be saying "LOL they though it was Harwins!?" 😂
@KevinDiazx11
@KevinDiazx11 2 жыл бұрын
@@OfficialMediaKnights the kids are harwin regardless so no one would have said that 😂
@AudaciousMindness
@AudaciousMindness 2 жыл бұрын
Harwin, Lyonel and Laena will be missed, when i starting to like them, damn.. btw those two in the stretcher being taken out is Lyonel and Harwin, So basically Larys killed his own blood, the Middlefinger is born, hate that guy jees. atleast we got to see the Mighty old warrior Vhagar the largest dragon in this timeline. and also Dragons can have as many rider as they can have but it can be troublesome, compare to a Dragon egg that put into a baby's cradle. Ex: Caraxes and Vhagar has past riders, Vhagar's rider before Laena was Daemon and Viserys's father Baelon, and before that she was the dragon of one of Aegon The Conqueror's Sister Wives, Visenya.
@OfficialMediaKnights
@OfficialMediaKnights Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for your comment. My main take away is wait what!? Daemon used to ride Vhagar!? Why would he change dragons!?
@AudaciousMindness
@AudaciousMindness Жыл бұрын
@@OfficialMediaKnights I mean sorry Daemon and Viserys's father rode Vhagar before Laena sorry about that😅
@guitarman0551
@guitarman0551 2 жыл бұрын
I mentioned in a comment a couple of episodes ago how much Larys Strong reminds me of Wormtongue. Heck, he's worse than Wormtongue! He could give Wormtongue lessons in how to be skeezy and scummy and devient. To have his own father and brother killed ..wow!
@OfficialMediaKnights
@OfficialMediaKnights 2 жыл бұрын
OH MY GOD YES! Larys is definitely bringing the ruthlessness and canniving angle that is needed for the games - regardless of morality, he does what he thinks needs to be done. Wormtongue was just a love-sick puppy compared to him hahaha
@Tooba-K123
@Tooba-K123 2 жыл бұрын
I totally agree
@SasukeUchiha21072011
@SasukeUchiha21072011 2 жыл бұрын
alicent has no point... she is lie to his son. to make her hate his sister... to take out the crown from his old friend. she don't know what is doing but when she figured out gonna be too late, she's creating two monsters Aegon and Aemond are like Jofrey baratheon
@OfficialMediaKnights
@OfficialMediaKnights 2 жыл бұрын
Ughh I hated Joffrey Baratheon. That guy was so despicable
@OfficialMediaKnights
@OfficialMediaKnights 2 жыл бұрын
Ughh I hated Joffrey Baratheon. That guy was so despicable
@SasukeUchiha21072011
@SasukeUchiha21072011 2 жыл бұрын
@@OfficialMediaKnights the kids of alicent are like them, maybe aemond IS a jofrey + daemon but he has just the bad things of daemon not the good or LOVE
@OfficialMediaKnights
@OfficialMediaKnights 2 жыл бұрын
Jesus sounds like they’re the spawn of the devil haha definitely looking forward to hating them in the future
@ricardocastro6320
@ricardocastro6320 2 жыл бұрын
Vermax was born to Prince Jaecerys. It came from the egg that was placed in his cradle. Hopefully we get to see Lucerys dragon and the new baby’s egg hatch. Aemond’s egg never hatched so he has to claim his dragon. There are only 2 ways to have a dragon. Either they are born to them or they claim them.
@OfficialMediaKnights
@OfficialMediaKnights 2 жыл бұрын
Good to know man! Thank you so much for sharing some lore with us. I’m assuming then what we saw was the “claiming” option for the dragon. So do the eggs always or mostly hatch when the person sharing the cradle is a newborn still or what is the timeline for the hatching like? 😃
@ricardocastro6320
@ricardocastro6320 2 жыл бұрын
@@OfficialMediaKnights when you see the princes in the dragon pit, it’s more for the training of the ones who already are born to them. If there was another dragon that hadn’t been born to anyone else in the dragon pit then they would be up for the claiming. That’s why Aemond went down there to see if he could claim one. You dragons that are hatched from being in the cradle like vermax can’t be claimed by anyone else other than Prince Jaecerys. But to answer your question on eggs hatching, it is a 50/50. In the books Aemond and Helena’s never hatched so they will claim theirs. Oh and Lady Rhaena the daughter of Prince Daemon.
@OfficialMediaKnights
@OfficialMediaKnights 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thank you so much for the explanation. That’s cool to see that they start training their own Dragons at a very young age. The Dragons that are up for claiming vary in age I assume. The dragon that we saw in the pit was larger than the other 2. I guess my question is they must be harder to train and bond with them if they’ve been in isolation like that for larger periods of time or if they even matters at all?
@ricardocastro6320
@ricardocastro6320 2 жыл бұрын
@@OfficialMediaKnights you would think, but the older dragons in the dragon pit had already been claimed once before, but their rider had probably died so they just need to bond with another; no training needed for commands. The young ones are new to the game so it’s a rougher go around.
@OfficialMediaKnights
@OfficialMediaKnights 2 жыл бұрын
Ohhhh gotcha! That makes a lot of sense actually. What exactly is the bonding process? I’m assuming it’s not as easy as just hanging out with a specific dragon haha thank you for sharing the knowledge my dude 😃
@pommedeterre3785
@pommedeterre3785 2 жыл бұрын
12:15 did he just said "poor kid '' ?
@OfficialMediaKnights
@OfficialMediaKnights 2 жыл бұрын
Uh yes, he was being bullied. We felt bad 😂
@jaderrdragonlover764
@jaderrdragonlover764 2 жыл бұрын
The Rats mean something that will be coming up soon. Probably at the end of this season based on the time that has passed. When you see cheese you will know what those rats foretell.
@OfficialMediaKnights
@OfficialMediaKnights 2 жыл бұрын
Ahaaaa ok!! Can't wait to see what this show is gonna bring!
@danmei-mariah-taylor-BL
@danmei-mariah-taylor-BL 2 жыл бұрын
Will watch this later huhu 😢❤
@OfficialMediaKnights
@OfficialMediaKnights 2 жыл бұрын
Aww I'm sorry you have to wait! But we will be here and can't wait to hear what you think!!!
@iamthat90
@iamthat90 2 жыл бұрын
Great reaction.
@OfficialMediaKnights
@OfficialMediaKnights 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the comment and support!
@goldenlockx
@goldenlockx 2 жыл бұрын
ITS NOT BLONDE ITS SILVER!!
@OfficialMediaKnights
@OfficialMediaKnights 2 жыл бұрын
OKAY!!! BUT WHY ARE WE YELLING?!
@goldenlockx
@goldenlockx 2 жыл бұрын
@@OfficialMediaKnights I thought if I put it in all caps you would see the comment better 🥺
@OfficialMediaKnights
@OfficialMediaKnights 2 жыл бұрын
AHAH welp, it worked. My apologies. Note to self* They have silver hair, not blonde. 📓✏☑
@andilezulu292
@andilezulu292 2 жыл бұрын
As mean and bitter as Alicent is, you gotta admit Rhaenyra made a huge mistake by trying to pass bastards as legitimate heirs. I'm actually so disappointed she would do something so irresponsible. Numerous Lords already question the legitimacy of her being heir as a woman, why would she politically weaken herself further by passing what are obviously not legit royal children as royal children? Also in such a sexist society, you know the nobility and smallfolk will try shame Rhaenyra for having kids out of wedlock, another blow to her reputation. It isn't fair but it's the reailty of a medieval society like Westeros. It makes her look bad because it goes against Westerosi culture and religious values but more importantly it only strengthens Aegon's position if he chooses or is forced to make a claim. Why pass over the first born son of the King for a bastard? Viserys told her that the throne is bigger than her "desires" and by having so many kids with Ser Hawrin, it proves that Rhaenyra hasn't matured as much as we would hope. Once Viserys dies, Ray Ray will be in a tough position cause right now, he's her only defense. Dope reaction tho!
@iamwhiteknight
@iamwhiteknight 2 жыл бұрын
But Rhaenyra must have a heir to strong her posion. If Leanor doesn't give children to her, she finds another way. Although that doesn't explain why she had 3 children, it would be enough if she only had 2 kids. Perhaps she really liked harwin
@OfficialMediaKnights
@OfficialMediaKnights 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for the comment and yes!! You are so right - we were actually talking about how Rhaenyra and Laenor have really painted themselves into a corner by having someone else father their children. Not to get crass - but there would have been other alternatives for them to ascertain that their offspring would be from both of them - not a third party. I'm genuinely worried for Rhaenyra's safety, and her children's, Laenor is also at threat of being exposed for his 'true nature'... The walls are collapsing in on them and it's just terrifying what the consequences could be. Thanks so much for your comment and support, it means the world to us!
@OfficialMediaKnights
@OfficialMediaKnights 2 жыл бұрын
@byumi Yes, precisely, we don't have the context on how exactly Harwin has fathered those children, if they simply reached out to him to bail them out or if there was a romantic connection between him and Rhaenyra. I wonder if they will explore that any further in upcoming episodes?
@Alewaxon
@Alewaxon 2 жыл бұрын
@@iamwhiteknight That's not an excuse... She knows her duties and she knows that she needed to pop up at least 1 child, preferably the first one, with Laenor... They knew this going in with their arrangement... "Doing their duties to their fathers and to the realm" includes pooping out legitimate heirs... Rhaenyra fucked up; she was careless and let's not beat around the bush, she is Entitled, privileged and spoiled... She has that "I can do whatever I want" attitude and so far she suffers no consequences for it... Havin 3 plain and clear bastard children doesn't strengthen her position, in fact it weakens it when it is that plain and obvious that even the kids pretty much know that he is their father... And Rhaenyra knows this and so far, for 10 years, she hasn't' care or done anything about it... That's hella irresponsible, that's on her; she is giving fuel to the people setting fires around her and the people that hate her (some understandably so)
@iamwhiteknight
@iamwhiteknight 2 жыл бұрын
@@OfficialMediaKnights I don't think they will explain in the future episodes :( I would really liked to see how proced Harwin and Rhaenyra relationship
@barr790
@barr790 2 жыл бұрын
Such a good episode!, I had a feeling about Alicent and I'll bet she gets worse. How excited was I to see Vhagar! I remember Shireen Baratheon telling her Dad Stannis the story of what we're now watching and I bloody love it!! I really liked Laena Velaryon, such a scene with her and Vhagar when she asked her to burn her. I found it quite poignant, Vhagar knew it was a mercy. I'm so enjoying House Of The Dragon, it's awesome.
@OfficialMediaKnights
@OfficialMediaKnights 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for your comment!! This episode was truly incredible, it was filled with such heart-wrenching moments, like the one you mentioned. What a moment both for Vhagar and for Laena - it speaks volumes on their relationship, and their character because, I love how you said it, it was mercy. We are loving this show so far, just wow!
@barr790
@barr790 2 жыл бұрын
@@OfficialMediaKnights Vhagar is known as the queen of dragons, she is the sister of Meraxes and Balerion the dread! After hearing of these 3 dragons in Game Of Thrones it was amazing to see one of them! Love you twos reactions, can't wait for the next episode!
@OfficialMediaKnights
@OfficialMediaKnights 2 жыл бұрын
Oh my god, yes!!! You're right!! Amazing catch, thank you, that actually adds so much context to this as well. Thank you so much for the support, it really means so much to us!! So pumped for the next episode!
@markmoore5170
@markmoore5170 2 жыл бұрын
First off, love your reaction. I love watching people react to these lol. Lots of things to unpack here. Alicent had anxiety issues visible since the first episode (fingernail picking) and they have sporadically gotten worse as the show progressed. As far as she is concerned she is completely alone in court. Her paranoia has grown after looking at each of Rhaenyra's kids not looking like Laenor at all and people choosing to dismiss it because the King does. Her allies are a bitter knight who acts more like a thug (Ser Criston) who cannot help her at all politically and a quiet dude who even though is an effective spymaster (Larys) has no political power base since his dad (Lyonel) protects his brother (Harwin). Her kids are a teenager who would be into porn and video games if they existed (Aegon), a bitter kid who is goaded into doing stupid things (Aemond), and a girl who is wholly uninterested in lady pursuits (Helaena). She is so frustrated that everyone just chooses to ignore Rhaenyra's transgressions while she has done everything by the book and goes ignored. Still, she tries to do things by the book, insisting that honor and decency will prevail. Alicent is also deeply religious as well and the Faith of the Seven (GoT's version of the Catholic Church) condemns bastardy in every way possible (hence why in your reaction to GoT Jon Snow is always frowned upon by Catelyn who is herself a pious woman), so Alicent is even more furious because Rhaenyra commits blasphemy, gets away with it because she is the heir and on TOP OF THAT she DARES to propose that Alicent's LAWFUL daughter marry a bastard. Through a combination of pride, bitter jealousy and religious principle Alicent refuses, even though that would be the best political compromise to ensure her kid's safety. She is just so angry that Rhaenyra is allowed to get away with all this SHE FAILS TO SEE that the marriage proposal is the best outcome for her children. As for Rhaenyra, she may have matured as you say but she is also still impulsive. I see many people calling Alicent out for wanting to see the child at birth but she never said that Rhaenrya should come. Rhae is just as terrified of Alicent as she is of her. Rhae wants to be near every time Alicent and Viserys speak of anything because Viserys listens to Alicent's council. Her arrangement with Laenor in episode 5 was "let us have one kid then we can do what we want" but it's clear that none of the kids look like Laenor at ALL. Westeros is deeply religious and all it takes is one lord saying the wrong thing at the wrong time for it all to explode. Remember, there has not been a war within Westeros for decades and there are many young knights and houses who are looking for a fight (the Brackens and Blackwoods), the legitimacy of RHaenyra's kids being contested with accusations of Bastardy would be enough for many for it to be a war. Rhaenyra knows this deep down and sought to compromise because after Harwin's actions it was confirmed by many nobles present that those were STRONG BOYS. Marrying Helaena to Jace would quell the rumors and secure the position of Rhaenyra's kids. you have to remember that all that is happening now is on her HEAD. Her children's claims to the throne are threatened by Alicent's kids because of who Rhae chose to have babies with, proving Otto's claims that should Rhaenyra succeed Viserys war will follow right. Her decision to leave for Dragonstone is based on protecting her kids from the Rumors spreading in the capital. from a motherly perspective, this is a good decision but politically it is terrible since it allows Alicent to have more influence in the politics of the realm. Do not forget that Otto is gonna come back and with no one to contest him directly it will make things a lot worse for Rhaenyra's camp. The Strongs are also in an awkward position. Lyonel loves his son so much that he knows that he is compromised. He got his position at the hand of the King because of his ability to give impartial advice. the council scene shows us how that reputation is now in shambles because every time he agrees with Rhaenyra on anything it will be seen as clear favoritism due to his son's intimate relationship with her. Lyonel knows he is pretty much looked at as Otto was, a man favoring his kin over the matters of the realm. so he tries to resign because it is an Honorable thing to do, but Viserys refuses. Larys is still a mystery and I end up with more questions. He sees how alone Alicent is and how desperate she is becoming and proceeds to hit three birds with one stone. by killing his father and brother he does not just allow Otto to return but he also installs himself as Lord of Harrenhal, a powerful political position from which he could help Alicent further (Harrenhal, despite being a ruined castle, has vast lands and riches to it). the third thing is that he places himself in a position where he can't be fired by Alicent because if he is accused by her (Only she knows and only she can do anything to him) all he has to say is " the Queen wished it LOL" and Alicent loses her power as well. I hope there is something else than just "I want power" trope that we have yet to see. The weakest plotline in my opinion is the Laena and Daemon plotline. Daemon loves Laena but he feels aimless and is wasting away. Even though he wants to be with Rhaenyra deep down he knows his presence only causes more problems. We are also shown his main character flaw; his pride and ego regarding his Valyrian Bloodline. He teaches his daughter Baena (who has a dragon) Valyrian and spends time with her while her other daughter is ignored. Laena sees this and despite her efforts Daemon still ignores her. The status quo is broken with Laena’s death. I think what many miss the point about Laena’s death is that by killing herself, Vhaegar has no rider and the potential exists for her dragonless daughter to inherit the largest of them all. She did not just for her “dragon rider’s death” but for her daughter. The ones getting the short end of the stick here are the children of course. Aegon is just a teenager who is not interested in a crown and just wants to goof around (in eccentric ways) but his mother just drills paranoia into his head. Aemond just wants a dragon and holds bitter resentment from his peers. Haelaena is the strange one (Listen to what she says, she has the prophetic visions like her dad) who is also disinterested in Lady-like pursuits. Jace and Luke probably know who their dad is but Rhaenyra's refusal to say it will only hurt them in the long run. Baela and Rhaena lost their mom who by going out like a Dragon Rider left them alone. The episode's message overall is in Larys' final speech. that our kids and the love we have for them are our downfalls: Rhaenyra's love for her children makes her abandon the capital, giving Alicent's faction more power. Alicent's love for her kids prevents her from seeing the best option for their safety and has her stuck with a very scary person. Lyonel's love of Harwin compromised his position as an impartial advisor. Laena's love for her daughters led to her being willing to commit suicide by dragon. Viserys' love for Rhaenyra leads the country into a state of war.
@OfficialMediaKnights
@OfficialMediaKnights 2 жыл бұрын
Wow what a fantastic comment! Thanks so much for taking the time to explore the further themes in the episode, and show overall. The way each characters seem to linked to eachother thematically, and also the exploration of their flaws, their paranoia, their pride... all these things, instead of bringing them closer to what they truly want, takes them further and further away, and worst of all, hurts them, and those they care about. In a way, it's a very Shakespearean tragedy and bears further scrutiny as we progress with the story!
@christianpaulobernardo5161
@christianpaulobernardo5161 2 жыл бұрын
The future king was a perv hahahaha
@OfficialMediaKnights
@OfficialMediaKnights 2 жыл бұрын
AHAHAHAH, we don't wanna kink-shame but dayumn 😂😂😂
@christianpaulobernardo5161
@christianpaulobernardo5161 2 жыл бұрын
@@OfficialMediaKnights hahahaha
@seanc411
@seanc411 2 жыл бұрын
Great reaction as always, Rhaenyra having 3 bastards is wild. It threatens all 5 of their lives and the entire realm, and not just for this generation. They surely should have at least had 1 kid together first? If the Monarchs don’t abide by the laws of the realm then why should anyone else? Rhaenyra is one of my favourites alongside Daemon but I completely get Alicent here. If there was a genuine reason they couldn't have a kid (not just that he's gay) then fair enough (I feel we would have been told if there was ) Could she not at least have one with a Valaryan/Targaryen first? Bastards are the major succession headache, hence why they aren't seen as legit in the eyes of the realm. God knows how Corleys feels about this.
@OfficialMediaKnights
@OfficialMediaKnights 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for the comment, and the support, it means the world to us!! Uhhh yeah, we yet again, refused to believe that that was what happened 😂 As I mentioned in the video, they really just painted themselves into a corner, like, I understand how impossible their position was, but... there must have been a way? Like you said, if it even was just the one child... It's an overwhelmingly complicated situation and I have no doubt that the consequences are gonna be dire...
@christianpaulobernardo5161
@christianpaulobernardo5161 2 жыл бұрын
Harwins seed is much stronger, hence jace, luke and joffreys hair, much like viserys seed to alicent's children
@OfficialMediaKnights
@OfficialMediaKnights 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, clearly! It certainly does not help hiding the true parentage of those children...
@nosaaguebor9450
@nosaaguebor9450 8 ай бұрын
This is what Sir Hearwin deserved for having not one but 3 children with Rhaenyra, it's like they're making fun of everyone at court and she shouldn't be heir whatsoever so I'm happy that's how it went.
@andrewmcgill9544
@andrewmcgill9544 2 жыл бұрын
The weakest episode. Too rushed. If there are multiple episodes, then extend everything...no character development so far...which sucks
@OfficialMediaKnights
@OfficialMediaKnights 2 жыл бұрын
I can see why it'd feel that way, it did feel like that episode that was meant to catch us up mostly, but I do feel the character arcs were present! But again, we all perceive it differently, which is totally fine!
@andrewmcgill9544
@andrewmcgill9544 2 жыл бұрын
Otto will return lol
@OfficialMediaKnights
@OfficialMediaKnights 2 жыл бұрын
Hopefully! He's a phenomenal character!
@shaquan749
@shaquan749 2 жыл бұрын
A dragon can be claimed by someone else when he or her rider is dead. Vhagar is going to Prince Aemond or Rhaena, Laena's daughter, mostly I think Prince Aemond will have Vhagar because of the civil war that's coming
@OfficialMediaKnights
@OfficialMediaKnights 2 жыл бұрын
Right! It definitely does feel that Rhaena or Aemond may lay claim to Vhagar! Soo excited to see what's gonna happen next!
@theonewhoismany8072
@theonewhoismany8072 2 жыл бұрын
@@OfficialMediaKnights Aemond will claim Vhagar after Laena.
@Tormund_Giantsbrain
@Tormund_Giantsbrain 2 жыл бұрын
Literally every reactor ever : Alicent you mad ya trifling self had to lay under that old musty kang while my boo Rhae Rhae was having a hot gurl summer!! Slay!! Don't be hatin cuz ya man got trash D! Ser Crispin ya stank azz still mad over a one night stand 10yrs ago? Boy bye!! 👋 As much as I think the Ser InceI jokes have always been hilarious and it's a trip watching it catch on in the mainstream, I do wonder how many people truly understand "not transplanting 21st century sensibilities on a medieval knight". The world in which Criston lives he did the honorable thing. But ngl the memes are def hilarious. Men when you say no once gifs 😂. Gets rejected & starts a coup before it was cool 😂. Someone tweeted "dude would be a menace if they had podcasts" & I spat out water thinking Criston on Fresh and Fit 😂😂
@OfficialMediaKnights
@OfficialMediaKnights 2 жыл бұрын
HAHAHAHAHAHAH I'm sorry, Criston on Fresh and Fit has me rollinggggg. If anything, he would have gotten that one started for sure 😂 but yes, it's actually one of the things we've been responding where, as much as some things in the show make us uncomfortable (incest, misogyny, homophobia etc) it makes no sense to apply our certain bits of our current moral sensibilities to HOTD/GOT... It's literally a different time (if we bypass the fiction of it) and things were simply done differently... We just need to delve into the world and take it as it comes.
@Alewaxon
@Alewaxon 2 жыл бұрын
I think that the problem with your perception of "the villain" it's that you are presuming that Alicent is that black and white villain... Or worse yet, that Rhaenyra is "the hero" of the story... And that's just not it; none of this characters are good and all of them play the game and do things out of their own self interest... You can clearly tell where Alicent's and Cole's resentment towards Rhaenyra comes from; and the reality is that much of it is Rhaenyra's own wrongdoings.
@OfficialMediaKnights
@OfficialMediaKnights 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment! The term villain was actually used more loosely, and if you look at the context, it was more referring to Alicent still being somewhat wishy-washy (again, this is merely an opinion!) - I do feel that Alicent, though in her mind she is looking for the truth and honor and justice, her actions will have consequences and I don't see her really accepting what it means to play the game. When it comes to Cole, it is not about Rhaenyra's wrongdoing - Cole was delusional and greedy for wanting to marry her, just to clear his name. And now he's just bitter he didn't get what he wanted. Rhaenyra simply acted with the same impulsiveness that many other kings or kings-to-be have acted with - Cole simply assumed she'd be different because she was so against the system. At this point, I do want Alicent and Rhaenyra to really own up to their parts and stand firm in their choices, take charge of their future with the full knowledge that innocent blood will be spilled, that many will get hurt in this game... Both still feel too naive in all of this and I do feel that that will cause much more havoc in the future.
@Alewaxon
@Alewaxon 2 жыл бұрын
@@OfficialMediaKnights With Cole it isn't that simple, Rhaenyra didn't just "bang him and moved on", she almost destroyed his entire life along with his honor and position with her careless act... She toyed with him and accepted no responsibility or concern for it and suffered no consequences; meanwhile him, was in danger of loosing his potion and mortal danger of loosing his life from the very moment that Rhaenyra started to pull him into her room... Just because Rhaenyra acted as many other entitled royals do you think that it makes it ok or justifies it? SPECIALLY in Cole's eyes?... I think people are giving far to much weight to his proposal of going away and to Rhaenyra's rejection; Cole right now isn't angry because he loved Rhaenyra and she said no, he hates her because she played with his life like it was nothing and then showed no care in the world for what it really meant to him and his life what she did... Do you think you would ever get over the fact that your superior all but forced you to do something and then hang you out to dry to face the consequences, consequences that most certainly mean death, and then that person not only gets out without a scratch and without a problem but also without remorse or guilt... Because in Cole's eyes, she didn't, she continued to do the same with another boy toy; and guess what? she put that man in mortal danger as well, and this time it happened. When it comes to Alicent, saying that she is responsible or guilty for what Larys did is indeed a stretch... She never asked for it and her saying that she misses her fathers support doesn't mean that she is responsible for what Larys decided to do with that info... She also can't be blamed with her association with Larys because so far he hasn't done anything of this caliber; she knows him as one of the few people who has been straight with her about what everybody else is hiding, including Rhaenyra... So she thinks he is a person of integrity, because once again, that's what she has seen, she has no reason to think that he is this much of a phyco... Because as you can see from this episode and specially Alicent's conversation with Cole, one of their main problems with Rhaenyra, which is connected with the lies she tells, the manipulation, etc.; It's the fact that she lacks honor and decorum, that she bends or out right ignores the rules of behavior and law and the proper way to act for someone of her station and responsibility... We can say what we want about Alicent but she has always done her duty, to her father, to the king by popping out heirs, taking care of him; same as Cole, even all of the dumb stuff he did after what happened that night with Rhaenyra, like confessing to Alicent when she didn't even ask, that's was him doing the honorable and proper thing, following protocol and accepting the punishment for his actions even if Rhaenyra was the one to blame... Look at what's happening with her batch of bastard children; it's insane how shortsighted she has been and how little she cares for the fact that she is not only breaking the rules, but she is also being a terrible heir by trying to catfish the entire kingdom by pushing her sons as true heirs; she cares about the danger that this "accusation" imposes on her and her kids, that's for sure, but she doesn't care about the wrongness of what she did and what that represents for the realm, she is being very selfish and entitled... Which is what Alicent and Cole point out this very episode, they are right.
@OfficialMediaKnights
@OfficialMediaKnights 2 жыл бұрын
There's definitely a lot of validity to what you're saying - we all have our own world views and life experiences that form our opinions, so I understand where you're coming from. I think it's important to note that both Alicent and Rhaenyra are very naive when it comes to understanding that their actions will have consequences, not just to them but to those around them. Alicent learned that when her believing Rhaenyra and supporting her, indirectly resulted in her father being jousted from the court. I can 100% understand why she'd blame Rhaenyra and make it her mission to get rid of her/expose her etc. Yet we need to remember that the lies that Rhaenyra has told, after her youthful and brash 'indiscretions' was for self-preservation so it's not as simple as calling it selfish or whichever word we choose to apply. The same goes for Alicent - she had to marry the King and pop out heirs because who could ever deny a king?? When it comes to Cole, the power imbalance was certainly there, and from what we saw he wanted to cling to his honor desperately - but he gave in to his own desires as well. Should people be punished for doing simply what they want? This world comes with rules, laws and morals and sadly, they are constricting to all that exist within it. Could they all have handled themselves better and with more care and thought? Absolutely!! When it comes to Rhaenyra and her children, I agree that her and Laenor painted themselves into a corner by having Harwin father those children. It is also a very strong statement that those that are rich and in power can do whatever they want with no consequence, and it is always the working class that pays the price, whether it is in HOTD or even in the world we live in now. I do think the show has done a fantastic job in blurring the lines between what is right and wrong, as it really is sometimes just about the perspective. I think it is important to realize that they all are selfish and entitled - none of them are innocent in this and that's what I believe is the whole point. They are all losing their honor, their naiveté, even their kindness and turning harsher and more ruthless with each episode, which is heartbreaking to witness as I do think they all, in some way, are victims of circumstance
@balerion77
@balerion77 2 жыл бұрын
@@Alewaxon wow , you're really painting Criston Cole like he's some baby and doesn't have a say. In Episode 5, What did he expect? Thought By marrying Rhaenyra he'd regain some honour? How? that's a crime too. Everything he proposed to do was more down the spiral of oathbreaking. He can say "no" HIS VOWS are bigger than anything as kingsguard. CRISTON didn't was not all love for Rhaenyra, he wanted to have sex too. If he was smart he'd have put together he couldn't get Rhaenyra to marry him by sleeping with her once. He's also not fully mad that She got married, he's losing his chance of regaining his honour in his eyes, He said it himself & he doesn't know if the Queen will kill him or not cos he couldn't SHUT UP and listen fully. If he loved her truly he'd keep that info from going out coz that'll put her life in danger or atleast listen properly. More than love for Rhaenyra he was f'd up by his guilt. Also They're friendly enough and Rhaenyra is not EVIL like Cersei. His entire family could be put to the sword if this secret got out as they're common born, He could tell that to Rhaenyra and not risk it and she wouldn't put some BS charges on Criston and have him executed bcs he didn't sleep with her yet he chose to do it with her. I was amazed when he freaked out when Rhaenyra said she couldn't marry him, All his Vows came right back to him when he yelled at her. He could've said the same thing in a pleasent way that night. Bottomline is it was attraction between the 2 and he thought by marrying he he'd restore some honour. Idk how he thought that though. All the "awww" reactions to criston are not gonna age well I think. You can see What a Bitch he was being in episode 6, taking it out on CHILDREN, blaming & calling names.
@Alewaxon
@Alewaxon 2 жыл бұрын
@@balerion77 I'm not painting him as a baby without a say... I'm saying that IF he had said something more, more forcefully rejected Rhaenyra, it would have been tossing a coin and putting his life in her hands and what ever reaction her teenage brain could act out... and Really? You are putting it past Rhaenyra or any of the Targaryens to do something like that? Would you be able to think so highly of them if you lived there and hear and knew everything about them as a family? Do you really think that Rhaenyra "would never do that"?... And I'm not just talking about having him killed, it could be something much lest fatal but just as final, having him thrown out of the kings guard for disobeying an order or simple because she doesn't want the shame for herself of having someone there who she made a move on and rejected her, someone who witnessed made a fool of herself... I'm sorry but, no, a common born would have every reason to believe that the most minute offense or sign of revelry towards a member of the royal family could mean exile, suffering or death... This has been made clear, plain and over with, even by the people involved in the show: Rhaenyra had all of the power in that situation and she abused it, Cole had very little choice... Am I sayin that he didn't like it or enjoyed it or perhaps even wanted it? No, I'm not, he probably did... but he clearly said NO and he clearly wanted it to stop while his brain was working LOL. I've never claimed that his actions were smart or correct, in fact I think I even said that many of his actions were stupid... But they were honorable, they were the proper way to act... You can say that him asking Rhaenyra to marry him was naïve, which it was, but it was the only way out for him that even came close to being honorable, as much as it could be after having broken his oath... I'm not measuring the righteousness of his actions without including in context the fact that he already dishonored himself by breaking his oath; when he thinks about legitimizing their affair with a marriage proposal, that is indeed the closest thing to "proper" that he can offer in their shitty situation; when he confesses to Alicent about that he and Rhaenyra did, while it was certainly dumb, was him doing the closest thing to "proper" and "honorable" given the situation he was already in... You are confusing what it's honorable and proper with was is smart to do or clever or cunning; those aren't the same thing... Yes, he was fucked up by his guilt, because he is person that valued his position, his honor and by Rhaenyra's instigation he almost LOST EVERYTHING, including his life. So no, I stand by my conclusion... The situation with Cole is understandable, it's understandable that he doesn't want anything to do with Rhaenyra and it's more than just him being salty that she didn't want to run away with him; He is angry because Rhaenyra toyed with his position, his honor and his life and then hanged him out to dry and into a spiral of situations that could've meant the end of his life and Rhaenyra herself walked away not only without consequences but also without remorse, care and even having learned her lesson about fucking around like this... The fact that she is fucking around with Harwing in this careless way, only confirms Cole's worse assumptions away Rhaenyra and how she manipulates and uses people around her, in his eyes... And is he really wrong? We can agree that Larys is a phyco, but as Lord Strong implied, Harwing's involvement with Rhaenyra sealed his fatal fate, and Rhaenyra is partly to blame for it, she knew what was at stake, how the game is played and she dragged him into it without a care in the world, and of course the one who paid the price wasn't her, but the other person... Once again, all of this behavior, for 10 years has only cemented Cole's view of Rhaenyra and his own worst assumptions about the way she used him.
@rahilrameez8635
@rahilrameez8635 2 жыл бұрын
I've noticed people are really against Cristen Cole , that he's sexist and an incel but to be honest , Raenyra is just a guilty as him if not more . She literally used her power and her position to sexualize him , if that happened to a women in modern times it would literally be considered a crime which the Me too movement is basically based upon and one of the interesting things is most of the insults and judgement against her is quite spot on . If we see clearly she has committed more wrongs than Allicent till now , Also she's being hypocritical to Laenor when she mentions she has let him do whatever he wants in fact she has also done whatever she wants but Laenor exploits have not endangered them , it was her's instead . Raenyra is faar from perfect
@OfficialMediaKnights
@OfficialMediaKnights 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for the thoughtful comment and you certainly have valid points! There was certainly a power-imbalance when Rhaenyra chose to invite Cole into her room - that was also something we picked up on if you watch our reaction to that episode. Applying today's society's morals and ethics on characters in HOTD/GOT is frankly, folly as it is set in a completely different time (and yes, it is fiction so...). Most issues that arose from GOT came from the constant sexualization of violence perpetuated against women, yet all of the women that were shown to us naked were baby-bare with no body hair whatsoever. So it wasn't really about realism, but rather a twisted way to insist in showing sexual violence. With that being said, Cole is kind of sexist and an incel as his expectations for getting married to a future queen is very much rooted from the fact that Rhaenyra would now be considered 'damaged goods'. He thought that she would need him to cover her own indiscretions yet she didn't - it all worked out for her when it comes to Laenor, or even if she had gone with Daemon. When Rhaenyra says to Laenor that she let him do whatever he wanted, she was telling the truth. Her having children with Ser Harwin came from a place to produce an heir to solidify her position - it came out of desperation as her own husband could not father his own children, whether it was due to his being gay, or that he had fertility issues etc, we don't know. Therefore stating that Rhaenyra did what she wanted and comparing her having to create heirs to not raise suspicion with Ser Harwin, is a false equivalence. It didn't come from desire - it came from the demands of wanting to be queen. We still have yet to see how Laenor's actions will affect them - he's clearly not being subtle about many things and so there may be consequences to that as well. Hopefully not as no one should have their sexual orientation criminalized, but back then it was not accepted. Nobody's saying Rhaenyra's perfect - none of the characters are, they are all stuck in this vortex, trying to do the best they can with the circumstances they were given, that's what makes this show so compelling. Hope that clarified things a little! Thanks so much for the comment, we always appreciate hearing you guys' opinions!
@MAKG435
@MAKG435 2 жыл бұрын
Rhaenyra was a 17 year old girl, teenagers are stupid, and make things they regret when they mature. I know that's what happened to me. It was a really dumb and shitty move what she did to ser Criston? Yes, but he has no right to punish two innocent boys for their mother's perceived mistakes. And Laenor clearly knows Jace and Luke are not his and has no problem with this. If Laenor, for whatever reason, couldn't father Rhaenyra's children, what was she supposed to do? Pretend she was barren?
@rahilrameez8635
@rahilrameez8635 2 жыл бұрын
@@OfficialMediaKnights Great reaction btw as for the point's that you mentioned , i still disagree a bit . Even though GOT and HOTD is fiction and based upon primitive society , some of the themes are very much based on real social issues , it clearly shows the discrimination against women but in that scene with Cristen , she initiated the encounter which was consensual ie why I feel both are equally responsible and he was being naive to think she would give her position but he's not entirely irrational to think about that because she has expressed her dissatisfaction of her position many times to him and he literally had to chase her because she ran away once , lol . she's also very impulsive and unpredictable . It's just that she's also ambitious which he failed to realise . Other than that I agree that him being bitter after so many years is ridiculous . As for the situation with Laenor and Harwin , she mentions in the previous episode that they'll both Do their duties to the king and kingdoms which would include producing heirs and after that they can have their fun , but having three son's with Harwin is definitely desire . Just as Allicent puts it one may be a mistake but three bastard children can be a huge problem . Also Her having children with Harwin is an open secret compared to Laenor being gay so he's not that responsible for their current situation . Other than that i agree with the overall points . No one is entirely on the right side
@OfficialMediaKnights
@OfficialMediaKnights 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for taking the time and write such a thoughtful comment. The effort is truly so appreciated! I do see where you're coming from and understand what you're saying. I also believe that, for further context, we need to keep watching and see what else happens with the characters and what further information is going to be revealed, to give us more context on each character's situation.
@rahilrameez8635
@rahilrameez8635 2 жыл бұрын
@@OfficialMediaKnights fair enough , can't wait for the next reaction
@sitting_nut
@sitting_nut 2 жыл бұрын
can anyone who have seen the characters and world, seriously think rheynera and her supporters will allow aegon and his brother to live even if they have no ambition? as otto said, they will have no choice but to kill them, even if they don't want to (but some of them will want to regardless) . one has to be ned in season 1 ( or alicent pre episode 5) to be that naive. in fact, alicent, in broad plot terms, is ned, who unlike ned, chose to play. who if she doesn't play, would have ended up like ned at end of season 1. question is whether alicent can trust her children with rheynera after rheynera becomes queen. lies and rest of rheynera's behavior indicate she couldn't. for instance why did rheynera carry the baby to alicent when request was for baby only. mistrust goes both ways and is justified both ways. betrothal proposal aims at legitimatizing rheynera's son's claim , and stamping out doubts and rumors about his parentage. and it wont change the danger to alicent's sons, any more than joffery's betrothal to sansa saved rest of starks . as for offer of dragon egg, well lets wait till ... next episode.
@OfficialMediaKnights
@OfficialMediaKnights 2 жыл бұрын
That is an excellent point - the paranoia and mistrust is definitely what brought them to this point to begin with, which is a shame considering their friendship early on. This is a game of Thrones - and I feel both ladies are not fully aware of the spectrum of just how far they will have to go to get the things they want... Which is frightening and as you said, naive.
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