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@guillermojaime17722 жыл бұрын
One more comment, the Targaryens didn't become kings of the Rhoynar until Daeron II merged them into the kingdom, some 5 generations after Viserys.
@JCResDoc942 жыл бұрын
*was gonna ask, but of course youre already on it!* beautiful. also, rings of power: under what circumstances is a queen a "queen regent"? bc she dont have no kid (& in the bks is never queen...& not black. & not just a little not black, story relevant & well described). just wondering how bad they are messing things up. gr8 vid. -JC
@garycardwell51732 жыл бұрын
Lpllll
@brittneyelliyon25472 жыл бұрын
Interesting stuff 🤔
@IeshaWaysJones2 жыл бұрын
Could you pleeeasse do a family tree based off of the time travel series "Dark?" It's confusing AF! Danke
@Captain-Axeman2 жыл бұрын
BTW in the books Alicent was way older and Rhaenyra was younger. Also, it wasn't a choice between saving the mother or the baby. It was a choice between trying to save the baby, or let them both die.
@sassydasheng2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, and Viserys was a lot younger, only about 30. Paddy Constantine is great as an actor, but I wish he could have been closer in age to Alicent (age 18 when they married).
@termagant.trompette2 жыл бұрын
They definitively made them the same age so they could queercode their relationship. I mean, look at those handholding by the fire closeups. That's some sapphic bait if I've ever seen it.
@liz50892 жыл бұрын
@@termagant.trompette to be fair, the age difference doesn’t stop the portrayal of Daemon and Rhaenrya’s relationship that starts right away in episode 1 when she’s young. I doubt Alicent being 18 would have prevented anything.
@big20332 жыл бұрын
Also keep in mind while watching the "source" material was written by Maesters ... AKA unreliable narrators.
@sophiawilson86962 жыл бұрын
Rhaenya was only 10 years older than her half brother Aegon.
@nadias.mariano21962 жыл бұрын
Sor Criston Cole was never considered to marry, he is a king's guard, they serve for live and are forbidden to mary and have a family. Even if he wasn't a kind's guard, he is from a very irrelevant house, almost a low born.
@taps87812 жыл бұрын
Yeah...I honestly don't know why he's even mentioned in the family tree.
@thegreatjedi3092 жыл бұрын
Viserys set the precedent of choosing personal desire over political advantage in Alicent vs Laena. When he told Rhaenyra to seek out her own match, find one which pleases her, like he did, he's indicating that he's ok with Rhaenyra choosing someone not powerful, as long as she's happy. It's true Ser Criston is off the list the moment he was sworn into the Kingsguard, but don't forget that the King has the power to release him from his oaths, so technically he can brought back (although realistically I doubt Viserys would be willing to). If Ser Criston had never joined the Kingsguard, however, I do think he's a frontrunner. Rhaenyra definitely likes him, he's proven his worth as a warrior after besting Daemon, and he's an anointed knight. The realm might not agree to this match, but Viserys would probably be cool with it if Rhaenyra asks.
@Sovereignty32 жыл бұрын
@@thegreatjedi309 better yet, she could say that him being father of any of her children would make sure they will be able to fight well in the Song of Ice and Fire Prophecy.
@Rahul-ll1en2 жыл бұрын
@@thegreatjedi309 I think being a Kingsguard and backstabbing the King comes hand in hand. He's gonna side with the Greens!
@gabrielgraczyk2 жыл бұрын
i think he meant ‘considered’ in terms of by the fans, not in terms of the show canon, if that makes sense.
@Kcrink12 жыл бұрын
No Baratheons or Arryns listed? Rhaenys was half Baratheon the reason for her comment during the tournament. Aemma is half Arryn.
@Wolfeson282 жыл бұрын
I'm guessing Matt will include them in the chart as he updates it to include the events of future episodes. Just as of episode 3, we've only had one brief appearance by Boremund Baratheon and none at all by the Arryns.
@SpellingBeeC Жыл бұрын
thats because we only care about house targaryen in the show
@brettd23082 жыл бұрын
Correction at 6:15, Viserys is told that Aemma is dying but the baby might be saved by the procedure. He is not presented with a choice that would save Aemma. Indeed, breech births were a death sentence for the mother before the advent of modern medicine.
@zofindlay91912 жыл бұрын
Breech births were not a death sentence for the mother at any point in history. They were higher risk for the baby before the advent of the modern c-section, not necessarily the mother. This scene was not medically accurate, even by medieval standards.
@TyrannosavageRekt2 жыл бұрын
@@zofindlay9191 Perhaps, but that's how it was presented to Viserys, so at the very least the way the "choice" was described was inaccurate. We can't assume Viserys has the medical knowledge to know otherwise. Also, this isn't *real* medieval history, so it doesn't necessarily have to follow the same rules.
@l4nd3r2 жыл бұрын
@@zofindlay9191 It's pretty clear that she was also having pre-eclampsia, so the birth was already a risky thing, with the breeched baby she wouldn't have survived, could also be that the baby was laced too, i have no doubt stuff similar in the show happened.
@thalmoragent93442 жыл бұрын
@@l4nd3r Actually, surprisingly enough I don't believe any foul play killed baby Baelon. Not even in the books is there any mention or allusion to it.
@brig26302 жыл бұрын
As I see some others have pointed out Rhenys mother was Joceyln Baratheon her father's half-aunt. I think it would be great content for viewers to understand that Targaryens often married house Velaryon whenever they didn't have an appropriate Targayen siblings, or cousins available. For example Aegon the 1st mother was a velaryon. So was king Jaeherys mother.
@PineappleLiar2 жыл бұрын
There's a parallel to be made between Rhaenys who has Baratheon ancestry but is mostly Targaryen getting slighted for the throne and Robert who has Targaryen ancestry but is mostly Baratheon taking the throne by force. Don't know what exactly but something's there.
@sophiawilson86962 жыл бұрын
@@PineappleLiar A Targaryen was Stannis and Robert and Renly's Grandmother.
@Tsukiakari-qb3tk2 жыл бұрын
@@sophiawilson8696 Rhaelle Targaryen
@sophiawilson86962 жыл бұрын
@@Tsukiakari-qb3tk Thank you!
@Tsukiakari-qb3tk2 жыл бұрын
@@Nate-uf4xk that's not true, in the books Rhaenys had black hair
@Alex-mn1fb2 жыл бұрын
Side note, Aemon did not marry his sister, but his half-aunt Jocelyn Baratheon, younger half-sister of King Jaehaerys and Queen Alysanne. That is why in the show Rhaenys and Corlys have close ties to the Baratheons. I actually like that they changed some things from the books, like Laenor being older then Laena Velaryon. The show is off to a good start and I cant wait for the next episode. I still get triggered when that awesome Targaryen theme makes me think of how dreadfully butchered the last few seasons were.
@displacerkatsidhe2 жыл бұрын
Came here to make this correction
@Alex-mn1fb2 жыл бұрын
@@displacerkatsidhe Would have also added Queen Alysanne and Alyssa just to have the full incestuous family tree, but did not want to be nitpicky 😁
@Wolfeson282 жыл бұрын
@@Alex-mn1fb In fairness, it's almost impossible to draw the *full* Targaryen family tree without it turning into indecipherable spaghetti. 🤣 The one in the back of Fire and Blood is still confusing even when you know what's going on.
@silvazoldyck42332 жыл бұрын
Is it confirmed that Laenor is older than Laena? We had several time jumps, Laena was only shown in episode 1 and 2. Episode 3 takes place 3 years after episode 2 and we have yet to see Laena.
@Alex-mn1fb2 жыл бұрын
@@silvazoldyck4233 I think so. I first noticed that the young Laenor looks a year or two older, and I think they mentioned it officially, but for the life of me I dont remember where I saw that 😬
@cipher482 жыл бұрын
A correction. Aemon didn't marry his sister. He was married to Jocelyn Baratheon, daughter of Rogar Baratheon and Alyssa Velaryon, the mother of the Old King Jaehaerys. So Aemon didn't marry his sister, he married his aunt.
@VictorStarchild2 жыл бұрын
2:38 Aemon was NOT married to his sister... he was actually married to his half-AUNT, Jocelyn Baratheon, daughter of his father's mother Alyssa with the head of House Baratheon, Rogar
@Bruh-ff2tw2 жыл бұрын
Viserys’ choice wasn’t to save the mother or child, but to either actively try and save the child or do nothing and hope for the best.
@stuartroberson96462 жыл бұрын
Yep! I believe that as well until they played the behind scenes explanation of the first episode.
@thebiggesttk2 жыл бұрын
I feel like it deserved to be mentioned that in the book canon the two (final) candidates in the council of 101 were Viserys Targaryen and Laenor Velaryon, not Rhaenys Targaryen, his mother. Laenor even superseded his sister Laena, who is the older sibling in the book.
@armandopena49292 жыл бұрын
In the original story, "The Rogue Prince" & "The Princess & the Queen", it was Viserys against Rhaenys, but in "Fire & Blood" Rhaenys was replaced by Laenor.
@RedEyeLordofFire2 жыл бұрын
I disagree. I believe that the book canon is that the final two candidates in the council of 101 were Viserys and Rhaenys. The idea that Laenor was considered more of a candidate over his mother is absurd especially given the support Rhaenys had from TWO of the Great Houses + Velaryon.
@jhgvi2 жыл бұрын
it was rhaenys vs viserys
@carastone34732 жыл бұрын
I’ve heard that said in other videos. We all are aware that women were AUTOMATICALLY passed over.
@reinsaxony46232 жыл бұрын
@@RedEyeLordofFire I'm reading F&B currently, it was Laenor and Rhaenys. Rhaenys had already being passed over by Jaehaerys who named Baelon over her, so the argument for Laenor was that "if Rhaenys can't take the Throne because she's a woman despite being from the most senior line, then how about Laenor? He's from her line and male", but the Council chose Viserys because they also preferred a strict male line.
@nicko59452 жыл бұрын
The chart we have all been waiting for 😂
@B1lly_2 жыл бұрын
"The targsh*t incest supremacists." - Dovah-chan
@otto66812 жыл бұрын
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@Tsukiakari-qb3tk2 жыл бұрын
the chart's wrong though. Rhaenys' mother was a woman named Jocelyn Baratheon who was the younger half-sister of King Jaehaerys (they shared a mother, Alyssa Velaryon)
@theraghy53232 жыл бұрын
Perfect video, there’s just a small error (9:50) Criston Cole is a royal guard, he’s not allowed to take wife, land, title or having any legitimate heir.
@gennaronarducci1333 Жыл бұрын
Why?
@theraghy5323 Жыл бұрын
@@gennaronarducci1333 cause he’s a royal guard lol, it’s the rule
@gennaronarducci1333 Жыл бұрын
@@theraghy5323 but why? why he couldn't marry or have children?
@theraghy5323 Жыл бұрын
@@gennaronarducci1333 it’s the oath of royal guards, pretty the same as the Night Watch we saw in game of thrones with Jon and friends.
@theraghy5323 Жыл бұрын
They’re are not the same order of course, but the oath and the meaning of it is similar.
@MrHazz1112 жыл бұрын
A correction, the choice Viserys had was not between his wife and his son but saving his son or losing them both.
@marenhumblebee27362 жыл бұрын
That's what the Maesters said, but how would they even know? And which would they prefer?
@peterwindhorst57752 жыл бұрын
and the world's most incompetent doctor overseeing it.
@greywolf75772 жыл бұрын
@@peterwindhorst5775 I don't think you could have done any better than what that doctor did in that situation.
@peterwindhorst57752 жыл бұрын
@@greywolf7577 you don't get what I am saying -> Maester's conspiracy theory. The Maester's conspiracy is that the Maesters purposely manipulated the events to kill the Dragons first then the Targaryians. If you assign the world's most incompetent doctor to the king, you set up the situation without anyone knowing it. The fact later he is speaking about the 4 humors suggests clearly that he might be a quack.
@war_designer8763 Жыл бұрын
@@peterwindhorst5775 thats a completely baseless conspiracy theory without a shred of evidence, if you're an incompetent doctor, people notice and you get replaced, the maesters of the citadel are considered some of the finest healers and scholars of the known world, look at Aemon and Luwin. And the 4 humors was a totally valid idea at the time even Tyrion and Barristan talked about it
@euCelsoX2 жыл бұрын
You should do a full House Targaryen Family Tree from Lord Aenar Targaryen back in Old Valyria to Daenerys Targaryen.
@billberndtson2 жыл бұрын
I'm so happy you're doing this, Matt! 😃 Targaryen genealogy is almost like "I'm my own grandpa."
@thebloodyhound90982 жыл бұрын
Aemon was not married to his sister. He was married to Jocelyn Baratheon, who was his half aunt and cousin. Jocelyn was the half sister of king Jaehaerys I, being the child of Rogar Baratheon (great great grandson of Aerion Targaryen) and Alyssa Velaryon.
@samaccardi2 жыл бұрын
Considering recent events, perhaps a list of oldest Heir Apparents to inherit the throne from their predecessors? Since Charles is the oldest English heir to inherit. Curious to see who else in history outside of England had to wait so long.
@josephguillerey43912 жыл бұрын
Galba comes to mind, becoming the 6th roman emperor at 71 year old
@dingo15472 жыл бұрын
@@josephguillerey4391 he wasn’t heir though. He usurped the throne.
@sophiawilson86962 жыл бұрын
I Just wanted point in Dorne only the eldest that rule and doesn't matter what the gender is.
@MartianPlanetArt2 жыл бұрын
This greatly helps someone such as myself, who, decided to start GOT and HOD at the same time... lol As well as waited too long to indulge in GOT, I figured at some point, the 2 will intersect and reveal the rest. But this chart is super appreciated, Thank you.
@TheGassy922 жыл бұрын
I think a certain episode in season 4, I believe 3 or 4, spoils something huge! So ... if I were u lol I would wait maybe now 3/4 years to finish GOT unless you're ok with a spoiler
@theultumateprezes63792 жыл бұрын
@@TheGassy92 I remember there's a scene in the books where Stannis talks to Davos and he basically reveals the fate of one of the most important characters in HotD, I don't know if they included it in the GOT series though.
@Wolfeson282 жыл бұрын
As a suggestion, you could follow this up with a "line of succession" video at the end of the season, showing what the line of succession after Viserys would be under each of the different succession laws that each side advocated (essentially absolute vs. agnatic primogeniture). That would be a nice end-of-season video, since HotD season 1 will undoubtedly end with the big succession war just beginning.
@yungwaifu11 ай бұрын
found the ck player
@eswynplantagenet44832 жыл бұрын
this is actually crazy timing, i have been getting loads of GOT recommendations for some reason for the past three days, never even watched the show ! But I have been watching some of the vids I am being recommended and must say it looks like a very complex yet intriguing show
@v.a.l.i.a2 жыл бұрын
Jaehaerys wasn't made king after his grandfather's death. He was made king when his uncle Maegor the Cruel died and he was the grandson of Aegon I. Thus he is Jaehaerys I. His son Baelon was married to his sister Alyssa, but Aemon was married to his father's (Jaehaerys') half-sister Jocelyn. So Jocelyn was Aemon's half-aunt. Jocelyn Baratheon was the daughter of Rogar and Alyssa (Alyssa was the mother of Jaehaerys and Alyssane, the grandmother of Alyssa, Baelon and Aemon). In the show, Viserys can either save the baby or let both of them die. Most of us think the maesters lied about that, but it's what we know. Criston Cole isn't a possibility for Rhaenyra to marry because he is a kingsguard. These men are sworn to chastity and their life is their king.
@thenaiam2 жыл бұрын
I love how this is, in a way, coming full circle, with Useful Charts' 2nd posted, and most viewed video being the Game of Thrones family tree.
@anonymousperson84752 жыл бұрын
Aemon was actually married to his half-aunt Jocelyn Baratheon, daughter of Jaehaerys’s mother Alyssa Velaryon and Lord Rogar Baratheon
@diogorrify2 жыл бұрын
If you allow me an improvement suggestion, consider giving bottom margin for subtitles. Non English people like me have subtitles in case we miss something you say and they usually seat on top of the names of the charts. Great content 🙂
@UsefulCharts2 жыл бұрын
Good suggestion. Will pass it on to our animator.
@armandopena49292 жыл бұрын
In the original story, "The Rogue Prince" & "The Princess & the Queen", it was Viserys against Rhaenys, but in "Fire & Blood" Rhaenys was replaced by Laenor.
@khairi262 жыл бұрын
I can't remember where I read this but didn't George RR Martin say that the show was supposed to represent what ACTUALLY happened during Fire and Blood? Which seems to be pointing to "The Rogue Prince" & "The Princess & the Queen" provided more accurate information in this instance. As the show states several times Jaehaerys and the Council were the ones who set into place the male heir taking precedence over the female heirs? "Queen who never was" also seems to heavily imply that it was Rhaenys who had a claim to the throne not Laenor.
@V1ert Жыл бұрын
@@khairi26 this is shit bro. In the show they didn't even include famous mushroom. Aegon's youngest brother Daeron the "daring", many may claim that "show is canon book is fake!" but that won't make it happen. although i like it it too, that is was Rhaenys not Laenor.
@war_designer8763 Жыл бұрын
@@V1ert man I really wish Mushroom woulda showed up, I was really hoping to see the dwarf
@SorceressWitch Жыл бұрын
@@khairi26 I keep seeing people say this and it's not true. It's just something people keep on repeating and no proof. Another problem is if GRRM himself said this then what would be the point in writing the book? He could have just written it from one perspective of what happened. The book is instead written as a history book which relies on different sources that contradict each other. You come to your own conclusions. The show is not canon, the characters are not the same ages as they were, the years are different, velaryons are black, Joffrey Lonmouth died after fighting at the tourney instead of a feast where he is beaten to death in the show and Cristen Cole faced no consequences, Harold Westerling was only mentioned once in the book and that was of his death in 112 AC but they have Graham McTavish playing him so he is still around, major change there. Rhaenys bursting through the ground and killing people was not a thing as she was not at KL at the time. These changes that I mentioned are not to do with the sources, so these are not things that are misinterpreted.
@SeaDemon25 Жыл бұрын
@@SorceressWitch obv the show is not cannon, Rhaenys doesnt even have her black hair. The show is only cannon with the game of thrones TV universe. The real cannon is the books, but ofc this specific books are writen from a historian point of view, and history is written by the victors and powerful. The real stuff is the first person POV books
@elidc932 жыл бұрын
Finally been waiting for this! The reason I found your channel was because of your video about GoT Houses family tree… stayed because the channel is informative.
@Alejojojo6 Жыл бұрын
I wish you made a full video of this with all the complete characters from the show/books.
@DeltaEsportsVivat2 жыл бұрын
Never thought that now I’ll have to watch series that include geopolitics and family trees of such extent, but in fact that’s quite interesting, because all of this is based on real history
@victor3822 жыл бұрын
Only Baelon Targaryen married his sister, Alyssa Targaryen. The other brother Aemon, married his aunt, Jocelyn Baratheon, half sister of Jaehaerys through their mother Alyssa Velaryon.🤪
@whateverkimberly32452 жыл бұрын
I love this channel for always being my go to for maps and family trees I need but you’re truly the realest for this one bc you also put in so much lore. Amazing channel as always!!!
@thomasdixon43732 жыл бұрын
Awesome video Matt, can you make a video about the procedures that occur after death of a Sovereign? RIP Queen Elizabeth II
@revinhatol2 жыл бұрын
I think Matt has gotghat covered as he got that family chart which led us to William's son Prince George of Wales.
@giacomogranelli79862 жыл бұрын
I am from Italy, i know a little bit of english, i activate subtitles because i was scaryed to not understand, but i want to compliments with you, because i really like your voice, is clearly, and relaxing ❤
@kaitlynnchism9688 Жыл бұрын
in the first episode the choice Viserys has is not safe the child or the mother it is to save the child or lose them both
@bethmccarthy82435 ай бұрын
This chart needs to be updated and have the dragons added in.
@valtteripennanen40432 жыл бұрын
So, what I've understood of your videos on Royal houses and the succession of thrones is; Unless otherwise forced by circumstance, males were preferred to take the throne If there was no sons and only a girl, the girl would inherit the throne. If a girl is the eldest legitimate child of the reigning monarch, but a younger boy is born, the boy inherits the throne.
@martyhamud95832 жыл бұрын
Please make a new one of these videos as the episodes continue on 😁👍🏼
@JoaoGuilherme-dm4yc2 жыл бұрын
Anxious for a video about Middle-Earth lore, and the main family trees
@Chen-xs9js Жыл бұрын
Aemon was married to Jocelyn Baratheon. She wasn’t his sister, but his aunt
@vinitsunita2 жыл бұрын
Very crisp and clear information is provided in this video about the complex family tree of Targaryans. Kudos to the creator of this video.
@zinc_trioxide2 жыл бұрын
There's this mod of a free pc game Crusader Kings 2 called a game of throne, almost all the family trees are there its incredibly detailed for generations, including their cause of death, their personality trait, weapons, dragons, etc, not to mention the amazing interactive map of the world of game of thrones
@JRA91632 жыл бұрын
The analysis on the House of Dragons family tree is remarkable. Thank you. I'm looking forward for my information involving the characters' roles
@tn985442 жыл бұрын
Didn't expect a speakly advert. But i use it and love it
@tysonplett33282 жыл бұрын
Queen dies, which means Useful Charts needs to upload a GOT video in response!
@samwill72592 жыл бұрын
Any interest I had in GOT (which was not a lot, I don't tend to go for bleak an cynical) was thoroughly killed by news of how the show ended. BUT, despite that, you make great, fascinating content and I hope the fans are having fun with this new beginning.
@debscom2 Жыл бұрын
Thanks...this was easy to follow and was just great
@JungleJimAB9AB2 жыл бұрын
Your creative commentary and insightful graphics have once again brought order to the chaos which is history, whether imagined or factual. In this delightful expose' of the popular television series, House of Dragons, you have really excelled in bringing amusement to your many viewers. You are truly what KZbin is supposed to be: entertainment and information at its finest.
@carlopadon2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video, it is hard to keep in mind every names specifically if they almost sounds the same not to mention repeated names for the 1st or 2nd and so on. I'll be waiting for the update since there's another group of grandchildren or generation with the latest episode.
@oxxnarrdflame88652 жыл бұрын
Great video, cleared up a lot of confusion. I hope you do one on the tree for the rest of the season. I’ve watch a couple of other videos, yours are by far the best.
@state_song_xprt Жыл бұрын
2:09 the Wars of the Roses aren't the best historical parallel for HotD, but the time period it's directly based on, The Anarchy, is so similar to how things play out that reading the actual history might constitute spoilers for the show
@ricklampe1824 Жыл бұрын
I love how you talk very clearly.
@KGshowfan2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video! It was very helpful when you highlighted the people & places as you spoke. 👍👏
@EeliOo2 жыл бұрын
OMG!! As always your explanations are excellent! Now I understand way more of the show.
@Ri-ct6od11 ай бұрын
Surprised nobody pointed out that Aegon I was only the king of SIX kingdoms. Not seven. Dorne was not under Targaryen rule until about 200 years after Aegon I’s death.
@Adones092 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU for the spoiler warning. I wish more channels did this.
@indahprayascita2 жыл бұрын
2:38 Aemon didn't marry his sister, only Baelon did. Aemon marry Jocelyn Baratheon that makes Rhaenys cousins with the Baratheons. In the first episode of the show, in the tournament that King Viserys held to joyfully announcing that Queen Aemma has gone into labor, just before a knight from House of Baratheon fight in the arena, he rides up to the royal box to receive the favor from Princess Rhaenys and call her "Cousin". Rhaenys and her husband, Corlys Velaryon, have a good relationship with the Baratheons. Jocelyn Baratheon is actually Aemon's aunt, because Jocelyn is the daughter of Rogar Baratheon and Alyssa Velaryon who is also the mother of The Old King Jaeherys I. Alyssa Velaryon remarried to Rogar Baratheon after his husband, King Aenys I, passed away and her son, King Jaehaerys I, took the crown.
@TheMaskdWolf2 жыл бұрын
we on to part 2 for season 1? you’re the only one who can put it good in words for understanding
@river77322 жыл бұрын
Have you done a video yet for the hypothetical line of succession for British throne if male primogeniture was discarded centuries earlier than 2011. That would be pretty interesting to imagine if Henry the 8th had declared it, how things would have rolled out. Or say if some bold female monarch, say Queen Elizabeth the first, had declared female primogeniture that would so interesting too. Would love to see. Thanks!
@sophiawilson86962 жыл бұрын
I thinking the same thing Princess Anne can't be push back anymore.
@ak47scorpion12 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video i would really like to see the entire Targaryen Family tree From beginning to the end
@zhihuangxu65512 жыл бұрын
A minor bug: Aegon I did not have "Rhoynars" in his title, as he did not manage to conquer Dorne. The official title of the iron throne from Aegon I on had long been "King of the Andals and the First Men, Lord of Six Kingdoms and Protector of the Realm", until Daeron II peacefully introduced Dorne into the Seven Kingdoms.
@enrajbroin2 жыл бұрын
A minor bug: Aegon I was an arrogant piece of shit and the text states directly that he did use the title King of the Andals, the Rhoynar and the First Men, Lord of the Seven Kingdoms and Protector of the Realm. He claimed Dorne even though he failed to conquer it. The six kingdoms thing is a fan misconception that is textually wrong. The lorebooks directly point out Aegon used this title even though he hadn't actually conquered Dorne.
@iangallagher54482 жыл бұрын
He did he was arrogant and petty asl I mean the man burnt Dorne down three times and still ain’t win nothing
@SorceressWitch Жыл бұрын
Not a bug, he had Rhoynar in his title. English monarchs did something similar in claiming France when they didn't rule it. This is from Fire and Blood. "Three days later, in the Starry Sept, His High Holiness himself anointed Aegon with the seven oils, placed a crown upon his head, and proclaimed him Aegon of House Targaryen, the First of His Name, King of the Andals, the Rhoynar, and the First Men, Lord of the Seven Kingdoms, and Protector of the Realm. (“Seven Kingdoms” was the style used, though Dorne had not submitted. Nor would it, for more than a century to come.)" So it is right to title him that way.
@NithinJune11 ай бұрын
4:00 “Best Friends” with Rhaenera sureeeee “best friends” edit: i just watched episode 3 and whaaaat 😭😭😭😭
@NithinJune11 ай бұрын
only watched episode 1 so far but there was definitely some tension there 😅
@NithinJune11 ай бұрын
like imo they definitely have feelings for each other
@geenalawrence83382 жыл бұрын
This was amazing and so interesting to read, even for someone who has read all the books. Thank you so much
@wendyp84882 жыл бұрын
Thank you! This was very informative ⭐️
@epicjaguar97252 жыл бұрын
are you going to make another British line of succession video ?
@char4980 Жыл бұрын
please do an updated one 💖💖💖💖
@innieplays Жыл бұрын
I would LOVE to see this type of episode with the whooooole family tree from HotD to GoT - taking into it everyone from the books who are there. That would be so awesome. =D It would ofc have to be a complete spoiler, but still. It would be amazing. :D
@mandarin4082 жыл бұрын
House Velaryon is of Valyrian descent, and its members often have Valyrian features, such as silver hair, purple eyes, and pale skin.
@sophiawilson86962 жыл бұрын
Fact House Velaryon are NOT Dragon Riders. So they CAN marry anyone they like. They don't have keep their line "Pure" get IT! A male from House Velyron marry a Princess from the Summer Isles it that simple folks.
@sleeepy181 Жыл бұрын
Purple eyes aren't a thing in the live action universe (wish they were though), Pale skin isn't a Valyrian feature in the show either, just something *some* valyrians have, and the Velaryons do have silver hair in the show. Valyria was inpsired mosty from ancient Rome, which was had a diverse mix of people who, regardless of skintone, were all considered Roman so it makes sense that a fantastical place inspired by Rome would also have more than one skintone.
@suffyanrazzaq60782 жыл бұрын
Just finished episode 4. Will come back here once chart is updated.
@esais642 жыл бұрын
You should do a video "Who Would Be King of Mexico Today?" (if they restored Monarchy) In history we had two emperors in very distinct periods of time First Mexican empire (19 May 1822 - 19 March 1823): Agustin I (House of Iturbide) Second Mexican empire (10 April 1864 - 19 June 1867): Maximilian I (House of Habsburg-Lorraine)
@amon53932 жыл бұрын
I know this isn't the focus of this video but I really do hope the showrunners for HOTD follow the books in their later episodes. They should know by now that not sticking to the source material is a terrible choice, as shown by GOT's later seasons
@SidheKnight2 жыл бұрын
In GoT they didn't have much choice because the book series is still incomplete.
@arvinroidoatienza70822 жыл бұрын
House Velaryon actually are in the books and actively supports Stannis's claim to the throne. By this time, Corlys' line is extinct and the current noble house descends from one of his cousins. D&D kinda forgot about them. And Margaery's mother was Alerie Hightower. House HIghtower rules Oldtown, that seat of maesters Samwell Tarly went to. One can say that House of the Dragon is a soft reboot as well as a prequel. Hope that you can make a full family tree of House Targaryen according to the books.
@iangallagher54482 жыл бұрын
I mean it’s never stated that Corlys’s line went extinct matter of fact Alyn and Baela marry and have children of their own. On top of that isn’t Margery a descendant of his Grandaughter Rhaena
@arvinroidoatienza70822 жыл бұрын
@@iangallagher5448 I pointed that out because Corlys' mother was apparently a Summer Islander and House Velaryon of Stannis' time were described as of white skin.
@iangallagher54482 жыл бұрын
@@arvinroidoatienza7082 There’s a big time difference so there’s a good chance that their still of his line but because they lost a lot of their wealth and influence they still had to outermarry a lot to keep some of their power
@SidheKnight2 жыл бұрын
That's because the Velaryons aren't descendants of summer islanders in the books. It was a change made specifically for the show. A good one, IMO, but still a change.
@arvinroidoatienza70822 жыл бұрын
@@SidheKnight for some reason, I actually hope they were. I actually love how they are incorporated in the show without overstating their skin color. After all, discrimination according to skin colour is not much of a thing in Westeros.
@kaycee252 жыл бұрын
Why do so many channels report that Viserys had a choice between saving his wife or his son. It was clearly stated on the show that the wife was going to die either way, so it was a choice between saving the son or not saving him at all
@ryanwidjaja42522 жыл бұрын
You have to update the British monarch family tree. Queen Elizabeth II has just died yesterday.
@bananaforscale12832 жыл бұрын
REALLY?
@albertixthegreat7922 жыл бұрын
@@bananaforscale1283 yes. Now Prince Charles became the King Charles III
@bananaforscale12832 жыл бұрын
@@albertixthegreat792 WHAT? I don't have internet so I didn't know!
@natalieclausel63342 жыл бұрын
I was just thinking today about wanting to see a family tree because I was a bit confused, haha
@nadias.mariano21962 жыл бұрын
It will be much more confusing in the next episodes...
@natalieclausel63342 жыл бұрын
@@nadias.mariano2196 Oh sick, haha!
@Alejojojo62 жыл бұрын
Wish granted. Still several characters who arent born yet in the show (remember Alicent pregnant for example?) remain to be seen in this tree haha.
@natalieclausel63342 жыл бұрын
@@Alejojojo6 Well true but I meant the connections to the Targaryen’s we’ve seen so far in both shows. I’ve never read the books (though I likely will one day) so I’m not very well-versed in the families.
@Charles-gk7xx2 жыл бұрын
Criston Cole is not an option. The Kingsguard arent allowed to marry.
@Anti-Lean2 жыл бұрын
2:58 dreams ancestors face reveal💀
@thehillshaveaviators2 жыл бұрын
would you consider doing a video on the full Targaryen family tree?
@WaiLoon2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video bro, as always 👍🏼👍🏼 Pls keep up the good work 💪🏼💪🏼
@kevinvest96932 жыл бұрын
In the books Alicent was 18 and Raynera was 8 when Alicent married Viseris they were never that close definitely not best friends. I like the change to make them close friends and have their relationship implode.
@pattiheath60242 жыл бұрын
It would be neat to see you do the family tree of the characters of Dune.
@dustinwilson80622 жыл бұрын
Love paying for premium and still have to deal with ads...
@danielbujdos2 жыл бұрын
You forgot to credit the creator of this family tree & this fictional universe - George R. R. Martin :(
@invest_in_dogecoin63982 жыл бұрын
This was the most helpful video available
@carastone34732 жыл бұрын
Wrong. Wrong. Aemma was going to die either way because the baby was breach and c-sections were obviously deadly because they didn’t have the ability to stop the bleeding, give her more blood, and stitch her up. It wasn’t save mother OR baby. It was mom is going to die but we can try to save the baby by cutting him or her out. I don’t believe daemon was happy that the baby died. When he was out with his friends he didn’t look happy. He looked distraught. His friends were partying, but he wasn’t. We didn’t actually HEAR Daemon call the baby ‘heir for a day,’ so we don’t know how he meant it. He clearly loves rhynaera and his brother the king, so I don’t believe he meant it mockingly. That’s the way Otto Hightower SPUN it, but I don’t trust him. He has his reasons for wanting Daemon out of the way.
@helenrose53832 жыл бұрын
I just realised that Bobby B is Dany's cousin.
@ThatGuyNamedMatthew2 жыл бұрын
6:20 i remember viserys being specifically told by the maester that they could only save the baby? Realistically it was a choice between the mother or baby, and from what I understand historically the mother would be saved, but in the context presented in the show viserys was under the impression that it was lose the mother or lose both, with no option to save the mother
@Alejojojo62 жыл бұрын
No in the show they say we either loose them both or we can just save one but saving the child was easier than saving the mother of course. Historically, the child was safe more than the mother cause in ancient times Kings can remarry.
@aileenpi732 жыл бұрын
Daemond was not shown as happy for the death of the baby boy. He was sitting separate from the rest of the brothel looking pretty sad and not really celebrating. While it is true that the death of the baby keeps Daemond as heir, he is not happy that his family suffered a loss.
@lawrencewilson38622 жыл бұрын
The vote was actually between Rhaenys's son Laenor and Baelon's son Viserys, the show took some liberties with this fact.
@AugustTheStag9 ай бұрын
"Um, actually", Aegon was never called King of the Rhoynar. The Rhoynar are the Dornish, and he never ruled them.
@PaulWinters3282 жыл бұрын
I'm certain that Viserys wasn't given the choice to save the baby or Aemma.. but rather save the baby or lose them both.
@Macion-sm2ui2 жыл бұрын
Hey, are you going to do a video about kingdoms and empires of Asia, similar to that about Europe? I recently rewach that video and I saw you liked a comment sugesting doing such video.
@ferrjuan2 жыл бұрын
Think the Dance of the Dragons kinda mirrors The Anarchy in English history.
@greywolf75772 жыл бұрын
Yes, the Dance of the Dragons is based on the Anarchy period while Game of Thrones is very loosely based on the War of the Roses.
@rcrdtlo Жыл бұрын
An interesting family tree would be the Buendia family from One Hundred Years of Solitude. I remember sketching one on an empty page of the book many years ago on my second reading. Edit: I just found one on wikipedia but surely explained by Mat would be way better!
@devinsenter80302 жыл бұрын
Prince aemon actually married the daughter of a baratheon
@Rubenlf6192 жыл бұрын
Love this video- thank you!! ASoIF genealogy and history can be so confusing at times. You explained a portion of the Targaryen family so clearly! 🫶🏼
@philnorris37462 жыл бұрын
I would love to see you do a family tree of the silmarillion from the beginnings of Tolkien's ideas of creation by Eru illuvitar and the valar/maiar right up to the third age or even beyond
@spunj2 жыл бұрын
*SPOILER* I think they're going to do the Harwin x Rhaenyra theory - Only because all of the casted children have brown hair. Only makes sense.
@abm35882 жыл бұрын
Spoiler ahead.......... Rhaenyra marries Daemon Alicent betray Rhaenyra, and crowns Aegon II as king and kills council members supporting Rhaenyra Rhaenyra have five kids, four of them dies in dance of dragon. In the end of dance Aegon's dragon named Sunfire burns and eat Rhaenyra. Aegon II sits on iron throne but for only few months, Raenyra's only surviving son marries Aegon's daughter and continue dragon lord blood line. Sunfire only surviving dragon after dance dies soon due to broken wing and injuries. No dragon eggs are left, Rhaenyra had 3 eggs at dragon stone but they were stolen perhaps by lover of Daemon (his extramarital affair).
@visenyatargaryen91302 жыл бұрын
Small correction. Two of Rhaenyra's sons survived, not only one.
@o6fade8002 жыл бұрын
By what I was told, in the books Daemon wasn’t actually making fun of his dead nephew, he was mourning but it was taken out of context