The German Submarine Wolfpack in the Indian and Pacific Ocean: the Monsun Gruppe

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During the initial stages of the war, there was some talk among Kriegsmarine admirals to send a flotilla of U-boats to the Indian Ocean. Although it would be an addition to have manpower there and disrupt Allied supply lines, nobody considered it a feasible mission. U-boats were challenging to resupply, the Germans didn’t exactly have an abundance of them, and there was an intensifying war waging in the North Atlantic Ocean. Because sending a squadron of U-boats to the Indian Ocean suffered so many logistical issues, commanders decided to hold off from doing so.
Although there wasn’t very intensive contact between Japan and Germany, the communication they did have consisted of cargo boats transporting goods between the two powers. Japan suffered from notorious resource problems and a technological disadvantage compared to their main adversary, the United States. Meanwhile, the German war machine required resources available to Japan, such as tungsten, quinine and rubber. Regardless of the occasional cargo shipments, Germany and Japan never managed to establish a stable logistical naval connection.
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There were several upsides a base near the Pacific theatre would have for the Germans. Due to the losses both on land and sea Germany could benefit from an overseas port and supply line. Not to mention that due to Operation Barbarossa contact with their Japanese allies was hindered even further. And the Pacific theatre wasn’t too hindered by submarine warfare so that the Allied cargo convoys wouldn’t be protected to the degree they were in the Atlantic Ocean. Some surprise strikes by weaponised transport submarines could very well help the German war effort and would undoubtedly do more damage than it would in the Atlantic Ocean.
Dönitz considered using submarines for transport to and from Japan, using their stealth to evade Allied squadrons on their way. Initially, this idea was given the green light, but due to heavy losses of submarines in subsequent battles in the North Atlantic Ocean, the plan was put on hold. By this point, the tide of war turned against Germany, both on land as the Germans lost the Battle of Stalingrad by February 1943, but also on the sea, with the Kriegsmarine losing dozens of submarines every month. In turn, German commanders decided it would be foolish to use their valuable submarines for transport.
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Sources:
Town, C. (2019). Gruppe Monsun-The U-Boat operations in the Indian and Pacific Oceans during World War II. World War II, 1.
Worthen, Dennis B. "The national quinine pool: when quinine went to war." Pharmacy in history 38, no. 3 (1996): 143-147.
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@canthama2703
@canthama2703 3 жыл бұрын
Oscar, had no idea of this effort by the Germans in WWII, thank you for sharing it.
@HMH901
@HMH901 3 жыл бұрын
A little fun fact, after german surrender some of the monsoon grup member joined Indonesian rebel at that time fighting for their independence, some of the member train them in signal communication, physical fitness, even making improvised weapon. You can visit some of monsoon group member graves in Bogor City, West Java, source : historia.id/politik/articles/tentara-jerman-dalam-perang-kemerdekaan-indonesia-v54jp it's in indonesian sadly
@lisasmith516
@lisasmith516 3 жыл бұрын
WoW, so much "unofficially recognized Historical data!" Thank you very much, Sir.😄
@nilsjurgensen1894
@nilsjurgensen1894 3 жыл бұрын
12 years ago i had a neighbor who was a radiooperator at the tanker "Charlotte Schliemann" witch was a tendership for the monsun group. They where sunk by HMS Relentless in february '44 . After 23 Days of being shipwrecked they where rescued by a british warship at the eastern coast of africa and become a POW for the rest of WW2. He told me a lot of storys about his wartime, sadly he passed away 5 years ago at the age of 96.
@alexflett4395
@alexflett4395 3 жыл бұрын
My father was torpedoed by U198 in April 43 40 nautical miles off Durban and handed over to the Japanese in Java a month later. The sub went on to sink three other ships while he was a prisoner on board. He persuaded the sub skipper to radio home and ask to bring this prisoners home with them to Germany. This was the first the Allies knew that there were U boats in the Indian ocean.
@zhubajie6940
@zhubajie6940 3 жыл бұрын
I enjoy when history KZbin Channels look more closely at the IBC theater. There's so little out there as many documentaries just go on about the Atlantic and Pacific theaters.
@barbarossa1983
@barbarossa1983 3 жыл бұрын
Glad I found this channel,excellent 👍
@HoH
@HoH 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks and welcome!
@kangmw94
@kangmw94 3 жыл бұрын
Good Channel!! 😎😎👍👍
@ericmcquiston9473
@ericmcquiston9473 3 жыл бұрын
What a story about a chapter of WW 2 I’ve never heard about. Great video !
@joshuariddensdale2126
@joshuariddensdale2126 2 жыл бұрын
The Monsun Gruppe is also a DLC campaign in Silent Hunter 4: Wolves Of The Pacific. That was actually my first time hearing about the U-Boats operating in the Pacific.
@Aeyekay0
@Aeyekay0 3 жыл бұрын
Like the blooper at the end lol
@mbryson2899
@mbryson2899 3 жыл бұрын
Good video! Also, thank you for putting captions on the photographs.
@aidensanders2534
@aidensanders2534 3 жыл бұрын
Another fantastic video Oscar!
@HoH
@HoH 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you like them!
@NeilTheHippy
@NeilTheHippy 3 жыл бұрын
Uber ......Was expecting to see a flotilla of private taxis 🤔🤣🤣🤣
@hojoj.1974
@hojoj.1974 3 жыл бұрын
I enjoy learning new data from this era. Thank you.
@Vegas_Des
@Vegas_Des 3 жыл бұрын
Cool blazer bro! Great video
@Sociologist66
@Sociologist66 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video... Congratulations !!!!
@Wilson2005WAW
@Wilson2005WAW 3 жыл бұрын
As a Malaysian, I never knew this U-Boat was in Penang before, thank you for sharing this out.
@i-am-your-conscience
@i-am-your-conscience 2 жыл бұрын
They even had a base of operations there. The commander of the base name was Grützmacher. The "boss of the south" Wilhelm Dommes was in command for all german uboat operations in all of southeast asia, the indian ocean and beyond. There is a lot of information about persons and boats and all sources speak of a real operations base they had there, but I didnt found information on where they had it on Penang. Maybe there are malaysian sources about it? If you know something - this would a super interesting for my youtube documentary I wanted to do while having vacation in Malaysia once it reopens for tourists.
@Wilson2005WAW
@Wilson2005WAW 2 жыл бұрын
@@i-am-your-conscience I see, I might try to look for it.
@GDDX_jibster
@GDDX_jibster 2 жыл бұрын
It did come out in our local newspaper in a small article a few years back, apparently the base in penang is still intact, not fully though
@Wilson2005WAW
@Wilson2005WAW 2 жыл бұрын
@@GDDX_jibster ooh interesting.
@perpetualgrin5804
@perpetualgrin5804 Ай бұрын
They went there for the food, best in the world ? Lol
@garykubodera9528
@garykubodera9528 3 жыл бұрын
Hi again Oscar. Another great episode! I wonder if you ever thought of doing a segment on the history and treatment of battlefield medicine? Might be a good topic considering how different many wounded soldiers have been treated over the centuries.. Just a thought to consider! Thanks again for taking the time to respond to my postings. You and your family stay safe and healthy and enjoy the New Year! 👍🤘😷
@glenmartin2437
@glenmartin2437 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I had heard of German U-Boats in the Pacific. Thanks for the video. Seems like a futile effort.
@theitalianliner1726
@theitalianliner1726 Жыл бұрын
Wonderfully interesting topic. You might also be interested in further elaborating on talian navy seals’ cover ops on Gibraltar&Costa del Sol or subs operating in the Atlantic from Bordeaux and Brest. Great work as usually.
@xvsj-s2x
@xvsj-s2x 3 жыл бұрын
Happy New Years and enjoy your research 👍 Thank you for sharing
@HoH
@HoH 3 жыл бұрын
Happy new year!
@Jasona1976
@Jasona1976 3 жыл бұрын
Great and new information....your videos are excellent and very well done!!
@furyrussian8663
@furyrussian8663 3 жыл бұрын
Looking Smart Mate
@Maarten-y8h
@Maarten-y8h 3 жыл бұрын
Great channel. Could you do a video on foreign SS divisions such as SS Flandern Langemarck and SS Niederlande ? So little footage and info available on these volunteers and their war effort.
@franktaeterUSA
@franktaeterUSA 3 жыл бұрын
Legíon Wallonie!!
@christdiedforoursins1467
@christdiedforoursins1467 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for the link that was( Awesome as one ad sang) I can't imagine being under the sea like that ,Thank you for the diagram cross section ,it also made me think kept the KRI Nanggala that sank recently with its crew ,it was so sad to see them sing for thier familes knowing they were going to die . Amazingly brave people go in submarines.The South Africa jnfo was also very interesting.i appreciate it.💭The screws😆
@HoH
@HoH 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed! And yes, that submarine accident was incredibly tragic indeed..
@tombogan03884
@tombogan03884 6 ай бұрын
Regardless of anything else, it is a tribute to the sailors who did it.
@tinkmarshino
@tinkmarshino 3 жыл бұрын
Well done what about the siege of Lille in 1940.. that lead to the amazing beach retreat at Dunkirk? or maybe the battle of Scheldt 1944 in the recapture of Antwerp? those are a couple right off my head that we do not hear a lot about.. Dang I am so old I probably didn't even spell them right.. Just a thought.. I enjoy your program immensely thanks very much!!
@jimmyshrimbe9361
@jimmyshrimbe9361 3 жыл бұрын
Your accent reminds me of Werner Herzog.
@QuizmasterLaw
@QuizmasterLaw 3 жыл бұрын
German + Irish.
@bruceparr1678
@bruceparr1678 3 жыл бұрын
I agree. His story telling is excellent and that soothing accent just makes it better.
@mbathroom1
@mbathroom1 3 жыл бұрын
Let me guess, that's German for the monsoon group. Also happy new years and I'm escoted to ser your new videos for this year
@TheOldTeddy
@TheOldTeddy 3 жыл бұрын
As I've come to expect, outstanding.The lack of pontification is refreshing.
@stevefreeland9255
@stevefreeland9255 3 жыл бұрын
Such an interesting story.
@JenniferinIllinois
@JenniferinIllinois 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the New Years blooper. Hehehe...
@Sociologist66
@Sociologist66 3 жыл бұрын
Bitte, I would liked you produced a video about the SMS Emden and it's campaign on the Indian Ocean at the beginning of 1914.
@hughsmith4464
@hughsmith4464 3 жыл бұрын
I would like to hear about the Merchent Raiders.
@HoH
@HoH 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Hugh, this certainly is a topic I would like to cover in the future. Thank you for the recommendation.
@AngloFrancoDane
@AngloFrancoDane 3 жыл бұрын
Minor correction at 5:49, the Moçambique channel is between Mocambique and Madagascar, not Gibraltar.
@HoH
@HoH 3 жыл бұрын
You're completely right. What a silly mistake, no idea how I let that slip through! Thanks for pointing it out.
@theodorossarafis7370
@theodorossarafis7370 3 жыл бұрын
nice video. any plans for US and Japanese submarines in WWII in the pacific theater? it is a less known theater for submarines thank you
@bikerleo1966
@bikerleo1966 3 жыл бұрын
Great history. Can you do one on the german attacks on the Australian mainland . A german sub was spotted near Tasmania ? Which sub was that ?
@alswann2702
@alswann2702 3 жыл бұрын
Can you report on Axis use of Madagascar and Spain as a naval bases? Thanks.
@amaccama3267
@amaccama3267 3 жыл бұрын
Happy new year to all at HoH
@HoH
@HoH 3 жыл бұрын
Happy new year to you too!
@ravarga4631
@ravarga4631 2 жыл бұрын
Gibralter is nowhere near the mozambique channel, did you mean cape of good hope? Dar es salaam?
@peterrasmussen6720
@peterrasmussen6720 3 жыл бұрын
HoH, The Allies had to establish anti-submarine measures in the Atlantic Ocean. This took a lot of navy and air resources away from the Atlantic and Pacific. Establishment of convoys is a victory for u-boats as crazy as it sounds. As a convoy is no faster that the slowest ship and takes time to form and disband, convoys with one strike take out about 25 % of the available shipping. A big, big victory. If you factor this in how does the cost-benefit then look?
@sean_d
@sean_d 3 жыл бұрын
Glad I found your channel. Could I ask you to comment on a story I heard from an old man? About 20 years ago I met a man in Dublin who had been in the IRA in the 40s (a residual splinter-group at that time) and was their radio operator for contact with the Nazis seeking support & cooperation against Britain. He said on one occasion he was in communication with a U-boat in the Irish Sea off Co. Wicklow and his self-taught Morse was so bad and with a coded message each letter was vital, that his constant requests for a repeat of a group of letters kept it on the surface so long the Irish Navy arrested it and impounded it. The crew were interned and the De Valera government allowed Germany send another crew to take it away. He further said he was interned himself later in the Curragh Camp and was able to speak to the Germans in the next compound and discovered the crew were pleased to be interned. I have never heard of any such U-boat capture, and I know there was tight censorship then but can't imagine such a secret lasting. Also I suspect secret cooperation with the Allies would have been more likely. The guy did not seem to be spinning a yarn, but it does sound very unlikely. Have you any thoughts on it? Or anybody else? Thanks in advance.
@furyrussian8663
@furyrussian8663 3 жыл бұрын
This is a comment for the youtube algorithm to see it.
@charlesfrancis6925
@charlesfrancis6925 10 ай бұрын
The U boats were the only part of the Wehrmacht which took part in action throughout the World.
@theophrastusbombastus8019
@theophrastusbombastus8019 3 жыл бұрын
If italian submarines weren't suited for modern war why Germans lost 783 of them and the Italian only 17? Checkmate Kriegsmarine.
@QuizmasterLaw
@QuizmasterLaw 3 жыл бұрын
Italian fleet boats were used for transit rather than combat and Italy left the war in 1943.
@theophrastusbombastus8019
@theophrastusbombastus8019 3 жыл бұрын
@@QuizmasterLaw I was joking. Also I think the big difference in deployed numbers could be part of the problem.
@lisasmith516
@lisasmith516 3 жыл бұрын
@@QuizmasterLaw I thought it was a case of preserving those fine Italian leather submarine fittings. Jk2! I'd have said "Corinthian Leather," but it wouldn't have gone over, except OVER "Heads." L.R.R.
@QuizmasterLaw
@QuizmasterLaw 3 жыл бұрын
@@lisasmith516 The Italian boats at BETASOM did in fact operate but it was quickly understood that though they did have good range and sea-keeping they were even worse than type IXs in combat - slower diving time, less diving depth. At that point they became used as freighters. There's not much information about their use as blockade runners, unfortunately.
@BA-gn3qb
@BA-gn3qb 3 жыл бұрын
Narrator programed the Birthing Droids on Star Wars. Uba. Uuuba.
@lisasmith516
@lisasmith516 3 жыл бұрын
Wha?
@BA-gn3qb
@BA-gn3qb 3 жыл бұрын
@@lisasmith516 - He sounds the the droid that helped the birth of Luke and Leah Skywalker.
@voltairechiong3111
@voltairechiong3111 3 жыл бұрын
YOUR LYRICS ????????????? ,,,... martin ,,,...matin ,,,.. martin ,,.. blain ,,,... blain ,,..blain ,,,..blain,,..
@paulmcdonough1093
@paulmcdonough1093 3 жыл бұрын
tirpitz,graf spee.bismarck,sharnhorst. all sunk by the British
@rpm1796
@rpm1796 3 жыл бұрын
HMNZS Achilles was there in the thick against the Graf Spee.
@RomanWasHere-
@RomanWasHere- 2 жыл бұрын
Clearly, you don't know about the Monsun Gruppe
@beachboy0505
@beachboy0505 3 жыл бұрын
Tragedy
@michaelprobert4014
@michaelprobert4014 3 жыл бұрын
Never " The HMS Whatever " only "HMS Whatever " the His Majesty's Ship Whatever doesn't make as much sense as His Majesty's Ship Whatever . However I doubt this bothers more than about 3 people who watch your brilliant videos ...and I say bothers but am probably over stating that even . Wink .
@HoH
@HoH 3 жыл бұрын
Ha! I keep messing this up, it feels very unnatural for a non-native speaker. I really should pay attention to this because I remember your comment from a month ago pointing this out. Thanks for the comment and for keeping me sharp!
@michaelprobert4014
@michaelprobert4014 3 жыл бұрын
@@HoH If it is only me doing it every month goes to show how unimportant it is . Keep up the ( really ) good work .
@alanbstard4
@alanbstard4 Жыл бұрын
would you please stop trying to pronounce names with an accent. Your aim is to be understood, and while pronouncing names with an accent may sound sophisticated, it's pointless if not understood
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