How 50 Year Player Wins at Craps

[@ColorUp]

Check out Uncle Angelo videos here: kzbin.info/door/e9uuSMPiwHmhthj1ijQLSAvideos

[@marknoble5495]

I’ve watched him a lot. Has some good solid stuff

[@neilschuehle7993]

Watched this video a few times, then went and watched Uncle Angelos as well. Here are initial results after three sessions at Rivers Casino in Portsmouth with only a $1000 stake: Session 1 ... +$757 Session 2 ... -$177 Session 3 ... +$350 My second session lasted about 15 min. First shooter went 4, 10, 4 out the gate. I was very surprised I was only down $177 when I left. I went up on lay bets $25 each as my inside numbers increased rather than wait to bump $100 a time. Definitely going to track this one over time and see how the results hold up.

[@JJ_Neptune]

I've picked up on a few subtle nuances from watching uncle Angelo's original video. He flavors the 5 & 9 when pressing. He waits until 3 inside numbers have been pressed up, and then presses the 4 & 10 to the next level.

[@stevefisher6531]

I’ve played this live several times and it has always paid off for me. Great strategy to have in the arsenal!

[@ColorUp]

Good to know, thx

[@matthewmurdock1897]

I would do some hardway on 4 and 10 to try and hedge it more. So what I do from someone else’s video is so money on all but 4 with hardway 4 hit 2 times and turn all bets off or take them back and wait for the seven

[@dragonshane]

Can't wait to try this system. Of course, I'd tweak it a bit, as many have commented already.... about taking the lays down after collecting enough to pay for each shooter. The other thing I've liked doing with any system that involves pressing is going to the 5 & 9 first, as it costs less to do so. Might go to Iron Cross once the Lay bets are down and my $110-inside has made it's money.

[@thespanish21god86]

GREAT call!!!

[@axcdef]

I would recommend having money on the hard 4 and 10 I play the same way and so many times my hedge would have gotten wiped but I break even because I win on the hardway.

[@frankiestacks944]

How are comps on this style of play? Please

[@Listener827]

Good strategy. You never collect and alternate press. Consider going back and looking. Had you alternated, you would have been up about $800.

[@ProCraps]

OMG ... we have to talk about that accent. I've played this before, and I like to start out with the $110 with the big lays, but work hard to earn $100 on the inside number as fast as I can so I can pull the lays down. They serve a purpose, but that's a lotta dough, Mikey

[@ColorUp]

Accent was spot on, come on man 😂

[@buckeyeslim6177]

I'm with Johnny over here. Leaving the Lays up.....FUGETABOTIT! 😂😂😂🤣

[@vikingsoftpaw]

One of the better hedging systems I've seen demonstrated. The only thing I'd add is; 'see a horn, bet a horn'.

[@GasStationMillionaire]

Good for short rolls. Once I'm profitable on the shooter, I'm pulling the lays.

[@drdontpassone8164]

2 hits max then off

[@matthewmurdock1897]

@@drdontpassone8164 yes agree 2 hits and pull off wait for seven I wouldn’t press unless you have a lot. I play lay the 4 with hardway 4 to hedge more 2 hits get off

[@drdontpassone8164]

100 percent............have run this moo coo rolls get profit and OUT most out there dont get it

[@drdontpassone8164]

@@matthewmurdock1897 you smart guy MM ,most dont get it......havent runit long enough..I HAVE 2 hits out da door that shooter 😆

[@matthewmurdock1897]

@@drdontpassone8164 thanks man!! Yeah played today and didn’t 2 hits and off i should’ve but yeah get 2 hits make money then pull off

[@malur1]

Awesome to see you dive into this one!

[@steventran3744]

Strategy would probably work better with some built in collecting up front to recoup original costs before going crazy and pressing up the place bets and lay bets non stop.

[@Quentin02143]

i appreciate your $25 minimum demos. The casino near me never has under $25 minimum for craps.

[@mmsk1717]

Thanks Biden 😂

[@Dan_Sterling]

Love this guy and his channel!

[@ColorUp]

Appreciate that

[@slloyd9892]

I have love hate relationship with laying 4 and 10. I love doing it, but 90% when I do the shooter will knock me off 2 to 3 times with ease. Sit there thinking to myself the 2 hardest numbers to roll statistically sure show up a lot realistically. Either way love this strategy I may try it just not at that level lol. Hope to catch you at a table sometime.

[@ColorUp]

It’s the dice gods, they always know how to beat us haha

[@D.McNulty]

I saw a video on CEG. Similar Strat. But no lay. Once a number is established play 220 inside. First hit put 25 on the 4&10. The goal is to hit a number 3 times and pull down. They called it the squeeze play. I haven’t tried it live yet. I have tried it on a practice site like any strategy sometimes it works and sometimes you get drilled. I think I like the hedge though. That way you don’t get murdered.

[@lucashafford]

Am I wrong for thinking you dont technically "lose" the pressed money? I mean you definitely missed out on potential profit. I guess In my mind theres a difference between losing money out of your bankroll/rack vs missing out on potential profit

[@ColorUp]

Nope, not wrong, that’s kinda point of his strategy. He not worried about 7 and “losing the profits” pressed up. He can just rebuild it with little risk, and hope to get bets built up large where the bigger money is made.

[@Josh-ex2qc]

Once a bet is resolved and paid out it’s your money. Losing pressed money is losing your money. I guess getting aggressive with pressed money may preserve your rack on a session to session basis, but in the long run it doesn’t matter, the more money you expose to the house edge the more you lose.

[@buckeyeslim6177]

Gonna play this when I get to Vegas today...with one minor adjustment. I'm not going to press up my Lay bets. I'm going to use them to hedge my ORIGINAL bet ONLY, while still pressing my other numbers up. If Ruby rolls, I'll just start over from base on the next round using what I won from the Lay bet. I might also hop the 4 & 10 Easy and put a couple bucks on the Hard 4 & 10 if they get knocked down before I get my inside bets to level 3. Two wins on level 3, I'll regress my bets back down to base, pull my Lay bets down to Place bets at base level, and ride the roll out playing Double Tap for the rest of the round. 😎

[@ColorUp]

Let us know how it goes and good luck 🍀

[@buckeyeslim6177]

@@ColorUp Didn't go well. Rolled too many 4s and 10s 😭😭😭 Should've layed the 5 & 9 #Hindsight

[@skidz8426]

I like this strategy. But I don’t think you should press the lay bets. Those are hedge bets to protect against your initial bet. When you press up your inside numbers it’s with winnings. There’s no reason to press the lay bet. I think if you had a good run and made some money you could pull down your inside numbers and than press the lay. Thinking it’s time to roll a 7. But I think any press you’re going to do should be with winnings.

[@davidowen1506]

Can’t find this comment but this is a strategy for comps much more so than big wins. 1/6 chance on every roll for a big loss, with big red basically breaking even (-15) on the system. In a high priced market like NJ, this will generate some flash as your playing with blacks, and the system is really relying on hitting 3 non big reds before hitting your 4s/10s/big red. Effective odds are really 2/3rds on any given dice roll of coming up ahead. I’m curious if someone models this system with never press to see how it performs.

[@steveb2616]

If my math is right Should be -$1.60 per roll or -$2 per outcome. If you don’t hedge with the lay bets I’m getting -$.80 per roll and -$1.25 per outcome. You would just be susceptible to going broke should a string of 7s come out when you start playing.

[@uncleangelo4591]

Nice video CU appreciate the shout out. By the way, I've been a subscriber of yours for years. I see you rolled this out on 10 dollar table. How did you make out?

[@ColorUp]

$10 version colored up, $500 to $800 something. Rolled 6 hands, longest was 12, avg roll only lasted 6.1 and strategy still did very well. I think rolled a 4 only couple times.

[@davidcooper7062]

Cool video Jeremy!!! Looks like a good system to use on random shooters. I would want to scout the shooters at the table...my dice set seems to hit more outside and horn numbers.

[@ericbentsen1785]

If you make it to the 2nd or 3rd level and then a 7-out comes, why not stay at that same level and keep going up? You can regress when you get to the 20th level. And when you press one unit at later levels, you'll have more to rack, or you can just add entire levels on one hit.

[@ColorUp]

As you reach each new level, yes, the 7-out is really not any concern. The oroblem is the lay 4/10 bets keep getting bigger, and if you hit those, it takes longer to recoup with the place bet winnings.

[@baseballjoe06]

Where are you located on the strip. I want to come there and teach my buddy how to play craps

[@ColorUp]

I’m in Reno, but visit my good friend at Casino Quest, they are in the Fashion Show mall on the strip

[@WClark-lp9vc]

Jeremy is a wise-a-guy at Color Up with great videos.

[@rogeeeferrari]

This strategy might be fine if you are happy with winning a few hundred bucks, when I go to Vegas I want to HURT the casino, cant see doing that with this strategy. I once built the # 10 up to $5000.00 and it hit twice, taking almost $30.000 away from the table. The table max was $3000.00 and it hit, I asked the dealer to go to 5 grand and he said no, I told him to ask the pit boss and he said OK, IT HIT TWICE MORE...

[@jdezenzio8372]

So, if you would have stayed just at the first level you would have made + $10, or $1,510. I counted every win as +$35. 4 and 10 were -$100. 7s were -$15 since you lose 10 total off the 6/8 and 5 from the vig. If the strategy were played just from the first level you would have came out on top. And, maybe you do this for comps at first or see if you can extend from the first level on a hot shooter. Just throwing that out there.

[@slloyd9892]

That's what I was thinking 2 hits is 70 dollars which is very good on random shooter. Maybe push for a 3rd then come down still get same results $ wise. All the pressing and increasing lay odds to try and get the 100 hit takes a lot of build up. A hot shooter though one could come up big, but we all know if shooter goes hot 4's and 10's being rolled too which negates the 100 dollar hits.

[@ColorUp]

Calculate the amount I would have won instead of regressing though also when the bets were big. If instead I collected 3-4 more hits…

[@jdezenzio8372]

@@ColorUp I didn't particularly like the strategy but then I generally play an iron cross press with a $1 full press hard ways cover for 3 hits.

[@Qui-Jon_Ginn]

Why do you press up instead of racking your first few hits? It seems like if you hit three times you’re playing with house money. Or am I missing something?

[@ColorUp]

Just how this strategy works…aggressive.

[@nickboretz1774]

If you regress early after a couple hits, you can get rid of the 4 and 10 lays because you basically will have nothing to hedge against..being either even or in the money with money on the table.

[@ColorUp]

Sure, but his strategy is trying to get bets up past second or third level - what you suggest is fine and more my risk level, but very different

[@simpleman3256]

Wish my uncle had this kinda money hahahaha, dig the vid as always bro!

[@Landing911]

I think it’s a decent strategy I would start a little higher say 220 inside. Then I would same. Bet any of my inside hits two times to recuperate some of my investment. Once I hit an inside number for the third time I would pull down my lays In my mind I’ve broken even and now I’m pressing to the moon

[@polok890]

Roll the dice at home and write all the numbers down. Look at them and you will have a better understanding of what's going to happen. What for a 4 or 10 to be rolled then put all your lay bet on that number. Also waiting for 3 or more 7s to be rolled in close order

[@ColorUp]

Every roll is an independent event. The dice don’t know they recently rolled a 4 or 10. This is called gamblers fallacy. If only it were that easy we’d all be rich from gambling. 😀

[@kylevalucky1003]

@@ColorUp Charting the table seems to help me, in my humble opinion. Sometimes a table has a strong trend I can bet on. When I'm charting, it really jumps out at me.

[@marcusbmarc]

Instead of a regress how about taking down those lay bets as you should have racked enough money to cover original exposure of $110 and play for free with less risk to the 4/10?

[@ColorUp]

Could, his strategy trying to build bets up large, so those large place bets would be exposed…there is no right answer

[@marcusbmarc]

@@ColorUp or a regress plus taking down lay bets as well. If keeping track of amount racked you would know how much you can leave out there on the place bets at zero risk - casino money. As usual love the presentation.

[@ColorUp]

Depends if you believe in “casino money” it’s your money, but it does not ease the pain when it’s not out of your pocket for sure

[@Shooter11B]

Uncle Angelo is a legend!

[@dangdude1000]

Instead of pressing every roll, bank some to offset a possible loss on the lay bets/ add a C & E..good strategy tho..

[@unmusical7227]

The pay out for Laying 4/10 is 19 to 40/41. Not 1 to 2. Laying Odds when you have a 4/10 Don't Bet pays 1 to 2. Or if I'm wrong, please tell me the Casino you're shooting at.

[@ColorUp]

Lay bets pay 1:2 on 4/10 minus 5% vig. So a lay of 40 wins 20 minus 1 vig for 19 total. Some casinos you have to prepay vig of $1 so 41 pays 20

[@belesswrong422]

Bubble craps strategy: $5 don’t, whatever the point is put $30 in odds, come out winners and losers don’t count just collect or replace If you hit the point go to $10 don’t and $60 odds when you 7 out go back to $5 level If you hit the point again go to $25 don’t with $150 odds and down to $ when you win. I don’t like to go more than 3 levels…a $300 bankroll should be enough for 3 levels (barring a bunch of come out losers) Note…many machines only allow 2x odds, if that is the case max the odds and lay the point for he rest, but there are machines that offer 5x and even 10x odds, you just have to look, plan out where to go with a google search. The nice thing about this is after the point is established, you always have the advantage, quit after making $50 or so and go to a different machine. You’re basically saying “I’m playing this way, with the odds always in my favor, and I am betting that I’ll win $50 before I lose $300. You will eventually lose, but you will win 8-10x before you do. Switching machines is….I know….a gamblers fallacy, but what you’re looking for is avoiding a run of 3 points hit in a row. The odds of the pass and don’t pass winning is basically 50-50, but only because of the come out roll having such a big pass line advantage. Each machine is a different string of pass/ don’t pass winners, so switching machines helps break that up…besides if it doesn’t matter, then it doesn’t matter to switch machines either, you might as well try switching.

[@drdontpassone8164]

only takes 3 pts made to take you home? confused

[@marknoble5495]

Similar to hammerlock. Only their is 5 levels and you also have 5 levels on the inside #’s. Level 1 you bet on 6/8 and take down after one hit. Level 2 same bet but you also cover the 5/9 and take down after 2 hits. Fun strategy once you figure it out. Great for a choppy table.

[@belesswrong422]

@@drdontpassone8164 It's pretty simple the pass don't pass is basically a 50-50 bet, but only because of the come out 7 working for the pass line. You put the lowest amount at risk for that roll (you'll still have a 72% chance of not losing on the come out). Then you go $30 in odds for every $5 you have in the don't pass. You always have the advantage after the points established. I like this on a bubble craps because you can get in for cheap...$300 if you only go for 3 levels at the $5 level. The odds of hitting 3 pass or don't passes in a row is about 8:1 (1:2³=1:8), but the odds of hitting 3 passes in a row after the point is established are much better in your favor (you won't hit three passes in a row after the point is established is 63.6%-95%) plus you don't have to tip. You can do it on the tables too, but you need a bigger bank roll. I say start at the bubble craps and eventually you can build up to an amount needed to play on a table if that's what you want to do. But it's important to switch machines every so often. Think of every machine as having a running total of Ps (pass line wins) and Ds (don't pass wins) for each game. If you stay at the table for only 6 or 7 games the odds of you hitting one of those bad runs...that do always happen is less likely (while technically always the same...it's not in reality). This is for sure a more grind it out strategy and if you play enough you will eventually lose, but you will win (far) more often then lose.

[@drdontpassone8164]

@@belesswrong422 thnx

[@drdontpassone8164]

doyou play sameway inlive games. if notwhat strategy u play.....good math

[@rontrull9308]

Best way to play and the only way to win consistently... Bet $440 inside one hit drop to $220 one hit drop to $66 inside and power press... 2 hits pay $210 - $66 = $144 profit on only 2 hits per shooter, and hope the $66 pays on big rolls.

[@ColorUp]

1 in 6 times you will lose $440…as long as your wins can recover from that your good to go.

[@ZachJersey]

Not bad, I may scale the amounts down, but this could be good when you're not confident in the other shooters. One suggestion I'd make is that since you already have a lot on the table, I'd slap $10 on hardway 4 and hardway 10. It brings you down from four losing combinations to only two, and the profit you make from hitting 5 or 9 twice covers your hardways.

[@jasonkillinger7213]

You need to triple your lay bets when they get knocked down, which means you have to start with a lot more than $1500

[@2Greenlid]

I normally take the first win on a number, press the second hit all the way, then go back to original bet after 3rd hit of a number, then the number is ‘paid’ after the first hit, rest house money to me!

[@louvoodoo]

I still have 8 more years before I can use this strategy... 😂

[@ColorUp]

haha, same here, or is it 7 for me? I forget in my ol age

[@kauboy777]

Why is it called 108?

[@ColorUp]

Angelo said “for personal reasons” so ?

[@jatelviss]

Good video

[@ryansledge4272]

I’m trying to see if I like this one or not

[@mattbohmfalk9717]

I enjoyed this video and think it's an interesting strategy. I might give it a shot. And like others, I might modify it to my own taste but it seems like a fun way to grind for a while. Too many 4's and 10's will kill you, but every strategy has something that will kill you. Too many 7's kills just about all of them too. You pick your poison, it's all a negative expectation game. Hedge strategies will let you grind for longer and make less profit but hopefully lose less too. Go big with no hedges and you get knocked out quicker but you have a great day if you get a hot shooter. Either way, just play however you want to play and try to not be a problem for the table.

[@donnythedingo]

I shoot way too many 4s and 10s for this strat. Not to mention, with the press your picking up pennies on each roll, losing dollars.

[@creolecajun9988]

I like this strategy i would take the roll after the point get one hit then take down bets.

[@dannypresson4815]

Maybe hedge the hedge w hard way 4 and 10.

[@ColorUp]

Maybe

[@JJ_Neptune]

I always hedge my Lay bet with an all day Hardway bet. Example: Lay 4 (or 10) for $50, hard 4 (or 10) for $7 (always working) So instead of 3 losing dice combinations it's only just 2! If I'm feeling skittish I hop the easy for $3 (pays $45)

[@ColorUp]

Can work out, or can cost extra money

[@Quentin02143]

Good idea

[@Farmer_Bruce]

I would simplify this with $160 don't pass and buy the 4&10 for $25 each. Call it an Italian Grinder.

[@subsea8559]

I dont get it ?

[@epaul525]

After the 7 your lay bets should have returned to $100 each. You stayed at $200 each which meant your hedge was double what it needed to be.

[@timbender9609]

Not a bad strategy. I'd prefer collect then press.

[@jonathanhains814]

Maybe you should focus more on dark side strategies since you are duch a strategy killer.

[@ColorUp]

Maybe, but I’ve done those and have good rolls to beat them 🤪

[@jeffcreech5377]

I saw this on a different channel it was called hold my beer

[@phoneman76]

3 bad numbers in this strat (4,10,7). Ideally, you want one bad number (the point). Which is my strat.

[@MrZola1234]

I wonder if uncle Angelo is still around, he has not posted in over a year and know he had some health issues.

[@ColorUp]

Oh no. I haven’t heard. I hope he is well

[@StiglerPanther]

No!!!!!! Lol. I was like, okay lay the 4 and 10 to cover your place bets, I was gonna say take it down soon as your made your money back lol

[@MrZola1234]

Almost 100k... anytime now!

[@ColorUp]

I’m hosting a party at casino quest on Feb 20. That’s my goal date!

[@danielstredler1448]

You are pressing too much. Take some profit early and once the base amount is recovered then press 50% each time. Lay bets can come down once the principle is recovered. Lay bets primarily help if the shoot rolls out early. You are betting too many lay bets.

[@roadrunner381]

Exactly, like your idea!

[@MindKontrolleProject]

Don't they call this the Cleveland Hustle?

[@ColorUp]

maybe, so many strategies are similar, and all with different names

[@roadrunner381]

I think that was a dance back in the Disco days of the 70s!😜

[@sophiethesloth]

How about cover those hedge bets even more by backing the hard ways at 8/1

[@ColorUp]

Could work, or could just be throwing away money…just depends what numbers roll

[@jimklemens5018]

You want to hedge a hedge? That's nuts.

[@jeffxanders3990]

Don't need to push on the lays cuz it's all house money now.

[@stevengraham3138]

Wait he he rolled a 4 or 10 you lose that amount too

[@drdontpassone8164]

leaving 4 /10 on way too long. has no shot long term. those 4/10's willcome, they just will ........... g ddp1

[@Schwartzing]

Still 6 ways to lose $100. Why not just do the 110 inside?

[@ColorUp]

Well technically 3 ways to lose $100 on each number. You can just do $110 inside without the hedges , just a completely different strategy.

[@chancerobinson5112]

The average craps point is 3 rolls.

[@ColorUp]

The average dice hand lasts 8.51xxxx rolls. A "craps point" is not a term, so not sure what you are referring to?

[@bruceeigsti5274]

To much pressing in my opinion..big ŕed is lurking every roll

[@puma509]

"doing well" not "doing good"

[@ColorUp]

Thanks

[@DegenDiver]

4 10 7 You lose sir.

[@Tacomaguy458]

Uncle Angelo must lose a lot of money with this strat. I cant see how you make a profit on it unless you get some really long rolls and somehow miss 4 and 10...

[@ColorUp]

yep, you stated how it works, long rolls while avoiding 4 and 10

[@edgardoacosta2646]

NOPE!!!

[@jamesnewberry2945]

Yo Angelo not for nut tin is that the best you got in 50 years I see you guys in AC gettin taken out in body bags witt datt kinda play hedges are for you know what

[@mmsk1717]

Hate the strategy

[@phiberoptik232]

Looks like a long road to nowhere. Basically one big hedge. Building up a stack of chips on the inside to lose as much, or more, on the outside is just another way to hang out, enjoy free drinks and dream about your next big money making idea.

[@ColorUp]

The hedge allows you to keep building your bets up larger and larger, get past the third level, and each hit is over $100 profit and the key is to then regress, pulling all that money off table. In video I hit too many 4/10 though to show any winning potential.

[@phiberoptik232]

@@ColorUp ….futile. The success of this strategy is about the same as going 20 rolls or more to come out ahead. With six ways combined to throw a 4 or 10, coupled with six ways to throw a 7, you need to be very lucky to get ahead and win a meaningful session. You’re going to be disappointed if you think you’re going to be standing a table for an hour or more raking in chips. Moreover, Angelo is negating the two numbers with the highest payouts by laying them.

[@ColorUp]

Well 7 not an issue here, there are 3 each ways to lose each of the lay bets. I have filmed this for my club members at $10 level. Didnt need a long 20+ roll as you said, I did 6 hands, with longest being 12 rolls, and avg. was 6.1 rolls. Started $500 ended $840, but key is I only knocked lay bet off twice. There is no such thing as a winning strategy, they all need to have the dice cooperate in order to win. Play as you like, aggressive, conservative, or somewhere in between. Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts.

[@scottfowler218]

This is by a long way the worst strategy I’ve seen you post.

[@bigsalty3661]

Lay bets = losing player

[@thespanish21god86]

This is EXACTLY the reason why I PREFER to collect FIRST THEN press EVERY time!!! If you would've done that, you would've had a decent amount of MORE money at the end of this session! This is of the BIGGEST problems with people who play this game is that they have NO PATIENCE, and everyone is looking to make that BIG QUICK SCORE, and it usually winds up kicking them in the ASS! Also, here is what I would've done differently: I would NOT work my bets on the come-out roll and WAIT until a point is established and THEN I would put the LAY bets up on the 4 and 10. Also, if ONE of my lay bets came down because that number was rolled, I would just take down the OTHER lay bet, and just play it out playing MY way of collecting FIRST and then pressing, until the 7 rears it's UGLY head!