How a Cancelled Mets Trade Still Matters Today

[@TheNMan64]

Barry Bonds injury in 2005 leads to the Giants Dynasty from 2010 to 2014. While Barry Bonds was at his best, the Giants constantly forfeited draft picks and plundered their farm system to keep bringing in players to help win Bonds his World Series. This included forfeiting picks in 2004 for signing Michael Tucker and 2005 for signing Armando Benitez. The Giants averaged 95 wins a season from 2000 to 2004, but could not win their first title since moving from New York. Bonds dealt with injuries throughout most of 2005, chiefly with his knee. Missing Bonds from their lineup caused the Giants to fall apart in 2005 and winning only 75 games. Dropping 15 games in the standings without one player proved to them that they needed to build a team around something other than an aging slugger. The Giants elected to not giving up their 2006 Draft Pick by signing a free agent and used it to draft hard throwing pitcher Tim Lincecum. The 2007 Giants, after surrendering a later round pick to sign Barry Zito, got another pick from the Mets after losing Moises Alou. The Giants used one of their first round picks to draft Left handed hurler Madison Bumgarner. To further emphasize their need to move on from Bonds, the Giants did not offer him a contract after the season. The Giants use another pick in 2008 to draft catcher Buster Posey. In 2009, they draft Zack Wheeler (who in turn is flipped to the Mets for Carlos Beltran in 2011, the same year they used another pick to Joe Panik) In 2010, the Giants finally win their first World Series since 1954, not on the back of the World's greatest baseball player, but with a team built through the farm and development.

[@Slayer-Josh]

That’s not 100% a butterfly effect though. The point of a butterfly effect is that starts innocuously. Bonds injury was the direct event that immediately caused the Giants to finally build a farm system. But he was done after 2007, so they would’ve had to do it anyway.

[@TheNMan64]

@@Slayer-Josh You're telling me if Barry Bonds was healthy and Giants win the NL West in 2005 that they wouldn't have forfeited a pick to get someone like Johnny Damon or AJ Burnett?

[@GA_Confidential]

@@TheNMan64 the

[@XenoFireStar]

World's best artificially engineered player*

[@claydouglas2526]

Idiotic attempted causality, attempting to appeal to casuals. ‘Bonds turned 40 and the Giants drafted people’ isn’t some sort of revelation.

[@Sam_on_YouTube]

One of my favorite trades was Ichiro to the Yankees. The game was in Seattle, 10PM Eastern and I was tired. It took me a few innings before I realized he was playing for the Yankees and not the Mariners.

[@RealDaBrady]

My first MLB game ever was his second last home game in a Mariners uniform. A few days later, I was sitting in front of the TV hearing about the trade and I was just so glad that I got to see him play for the Mariners before he got traded.

[@MCKevin289]

@@RealDaBrady My first ballgame was Mark McGwire’s first game in a Cardinals uniform.

[@N8R_Quizzie]

Very sad. I wished Ichiro could have stayed.

[@Sam_on_YouTube]

@Throg Or both...? Dare I dream.

[@Zaron_Gaming]

I clearly remember turning the TV on and being stunned by that and how odd it was to be the team in the stadium. I respect his choice but why that day right before facing the Yankees

[@SuperNuclearUnicorn]

Gotta be one of the most bullshit things in sports to be traded in the middle of a game. If you've spent a while with that team it's like finding out your dog died over social media while you're at Disneyland

[@Ryan-cb1ei]

Why is that even a thing. They should be able to finish the current game

[@bwellstv4927]

@@Ryan-cb1ei I'm pretty sure they can.... They are removed so they can get a standing ovation from the crowd and to eliminate the risk of injury.

[@astroworfcraig9164]

Nice work, with one exception: Altuve's picture in thumbnail. He was one of the few on the Astros who wasn't using the trash can signals. Put up Bregman or Correa, or better yet Carlos Beltran's pic there. Altuve has already been smeared enough. He's an honorable man and deserves better.

[@_omiro_]

fucking truuuuuuuuuuuu

[@greatestever90s]

Facts!

[@dramatyst5661]

🗑️🗑️🗑️🗑️🗑️🗑️🚮🚮🚮🚮🚮🚮

[@lucaslabruyere6794]

This is not one of your better videos. I will say you did your research, and you presented in a well thought out and methodical way. However, you presented SO MUCH information it is impossible to follow. With the title you chose, I came into this expecting a clear, concise explanation of how the cancelled Flores trade directly led to the Astros scandal, and you even started down that road for the first few minutes by discussing that cancelled trade. But then you went off on a tangent that seemingly had nothing to do with what you stated is the subject of the video: the Astrid scandal. How does Cessa, Fullmer, or Justin Wilson factor in to the Astros scandal? If you explained in the video, it’s buried beneath all the other info you presented. Finally, you need more visual aids on more complicated videos like this. You were on the right track with the board with strings, but it would have been better if you fleshed out that idea with an actual visual aid like that. Still a fan, keep up the good work

[@Elias-Alexander]

Good criticism 👍

[@Three60Mafia]

I agree. I had to rewind the video 3 times to actually get the point of how anything that was described in first ten minutes affected the Astros...

[@richardtheconquerer]

Because the Gomez to the Mets trade never happened, he was traded to the Astros instead. Mike Fiers was also traded with him, and he's the one who exposed the cheating. That's pretty much it lol. How Josh Hader is pitching now or the Mets getting Cespedes doesn't really have anything to do with the title of the video.

[@thespooner3906]

it honestly is just a load of filler for 10+ minutes giving info that had nothing to do with the tittle of the video, the actual part is at the very end and is briefly explained. A pretty bad video

[@saygoodnighttothebadguy]

Yeah, I agree. I was like how does that directly impact what the Astros did? Lol

[@gemsfromwilliebrown4558]

Well, that was underwhelming…. Sat through that whole thing waiting to hear about the Astros .. and when he finally got to it, it was already over…. A for Effort, but that was disappointing💯

[@Cardzworld712]

Agreed; all that for friers 🤣😂🤣

[@jorged0712]

@@Cardzworld712 I literally thought he had written the wrong title for this vid somehow. 14 mins of my life I'll never get back lmao

[@BGerbs66]

This is the first of these videos I've seen and I agree with you. I definitely won't be coming back. The "but for" reasoning in these is really suspect.

[@MonkeyEnthusiast77]

Agreed. Mids

[@Dave-oz9qh]

This is why you always go to comments section first.

[@brianjohnson2409]

8 mins in and no mention of how this relates to the astros cheating

[@FSamuels20]

Exactly, he was trying to hit that 10 minute mark 😂

[@donkeydan5996]

Thankfully I read this comment before I even watched one second lol

[@walterismydog7284]

@@FSamuels20 he's gotta make his money somehow

[@iamhungey12345]

Indeed, it's a minor part of the video.

[@edlocks5112]

Lmaoo definitely stretched this vid

[@SmoothCriminal12]

Butterfilt Effect Idea: Bartolo Colon lying to the Indians led to the 2019 Nationals world series. Back in the mid 90s, a young pitcher named Bartolo was being scouted by Cleveland, wanting to make himself look more appealing to them, he fudged his age by two years, which wouldn't come out till around 2002. By that time, Colon had become a bona-fide ace, and the Expos (on the verge of contraction), wanted to throw a hail mary to save the team, sending several top prospects to Cleveland for Colon. Colon played well but they still missed the playoffs, and he would be sent packing to Chicago by the start of 03. Those top prospects sent to Cleveland were future all stars, Cliff Lee, Grady Sizemore and Brandon Phillips. Without those guys, the now Washington Nationals had no choice but to tank and start from scratch, netting them guys like Stephen Strasburg and Anthony Rendon (two key players for that run). If Bartolo doesnt lie about his age to Cleveland, it's unlikely they take a flyer on him, meaning Montreal doesnt ship the farm for him, meaning Washington isn't bad enough to land the guys that would win them the 2019 World Series.

[@viveknamikaze761]

Holy smokes.... That was an amazing read 😱

[@zackburas8409]

Thanks Big sexy for hitting a HR off shield to domino effect a trade for Shields for one Chicago White Sox prospect Fernando Tatis Jr

[@phobos258]

That was amazing. More stories like this please.

[@iamhungey12345]

Not to mention beating the Astros in the series for an added bonus.

[@viveknamikaze761]

@@iamhungey12345 Astros fan here.... That one hurt a lot but the takeaway is that we make the world series pretty much every year or alternate ones so more chances to win

[@Sam_on_YouTube]

If not for this scandal, would Alex Cora still be managing the Red Sox? Oh... wait...

[@Mannymei7]

😈 , probably would hav had a decent record in the 2020 short season to be honest

[@jasonoshima6839]

And look what is happening to the Sox...karma, lol

[@Farts911]

Cheated the next season, and the MLB and Red Sox welcomed him back with open arms... and everyone still has it out for AJ Hinch despite well Cora being one of the masterminds. F*** Cora.

[@marcoslaureano5562]

You should do a story on players who got traded for themselves - it's actually happened more than a handful of times in MLB history.

[@MBAte111]

So they get traded for a player to be named later, then they’re the player to be named later? 😂

[@the6ig6adwolf]

You just blew my mind

[@phoodiegames]

@@MBAte111 Yep

[@marcoslaureano5562]

@@MBAte111 yessir. I find it hilarious - only baseball could ever be that ironic

[@dspsblyuth]

How the hell does that happen?

[@spectaculous1977]

While it's neat to try to connect the dots to weird events of the past, this video is grasping at straws here... sure, you need fiers to be traded to the Astros in 2015, but the Astros didn't start the signal stealing until Beltran and other coaches came up with the idea to abuse the shit in 2017. The only real event prior to the scandal that eventually leads to Fiers ratting out his ex-team is Mike Fiers own actions the night of 9/13/17 when Fiers started against the Angels. Fiers would end up getting suspended after throwing a pitch above Luis Valbuena's (RIP) head. Fiers gets into it with AJ Hinch after his ejection, and that pretty much ended his time with the Astros, as Hinch kept Fiers off of the 2017 postseason rosters after that. Without Fiers melting down on 9/13/17 because of Valbuena was being Valbuena (I seriously miss that dude. He was the best), Fiers might have made postseason roster and none of the bad blood with Hinch and the Astros would have existed and I doubt he rats on the scheme. THAT'S THE STORY WORTH TELLING HERE. not all these random trades that happened in 2015...

[@spectaculous1977]

I went back and rewatched that condensed game. Fiers was absolute dog shit out the gate, giving up 5 runs in bottom of 1st, including a Valbuena HR. Valbuena flips his bat (because that's Valbuena for you). Fast forward to bottom of 4th, Valbuena is back up to the plate and Fiers throws over his head as retaliation for the HR bat flip earlier and gets immediately ejected. Both the Angels team and the rest of the Astros pretty much thought Fiers was an idiot for that retaliation throw. If Valbuena bat flip didn't happen, then I seriously doubt Fiers would've stabbed his team in the back 2 years later...

[@iamhungey12345]

Not to mention Fiers still accepted that ring and kept it.

[@aguywithcommonsense7503]

Let's be honest here, even if he didn't have a meltdown, Fiers was not making the postseason roaster anyways because he's a dogshit pitcher

[@lucuix9901]

Ok now do the Yankees, Boston, Colorado, etc now that all of them got caught.

[@dbzfan667]

Butterfly Effect Idea: In 2004 while still on the 49ers, Terrell Owens was traded to the Baltimore Ravens for a second round pick, as the 49ers believed they still had the rights for TO. His agent had voided the last year of his contract, so TO negotiated with teams as if he was a free agent. That's when he ended up with the Eagles. If I remember correctly, TO was quoted saying he was excited to join the ravens until he realized Kyle Boller was going to be his QB, and that's why he refused the trade

[@KikoOblivion]

12 mins of random trades to mention the Astros for 10 seconds great video

[@BenjaminHyink]

The Red Sox’s failed trade for Alex Rodriguez led to the Rays having Tyler Glasnow and Issac Parades

[@minervagarza95]

What's the difference between banging on a trashcan and using the camera to relay signs, and using an Apple watch and a camera to relay signs? One used some Tom And Jerry ...Acme... shinanigans, and one used modern technology ...both were wrong but the media and fans are only disturbed by one of these actions.

[@axelagosto5196]

Pure hypocrisy because all the teams do the same.

[@MrRMAN117REVIEWS]

Wheeler proved himself as a premier pitcher in the league in 2018 and 2019 with the Mets. Not signing him after 2019 still infuriates me to this day.

[@sniperdolphin1397]

Right? Imagine a rotation of: deGrom, Scherzer, Wheeler, Bassitt, Walker. Holy shit

[@swish1005]

Maybe I have a peanut brain but I failed to see how any of this had something to do with Wilmer Flores

[@videogamefreak221122]

No, it’s just a really poorly made video that vomits wayyyy too much information at once

[@prufrock]

You are not wrong, this guy has trouble keeping a consistent train of thought, meanders all over the place with innuendos and suggestions that get nowhere, but seems to think calling it "butterfly effect" makes it ok. Dude, it's just baseball, it's a bunch guys playing a game hitting a ball with a stick, just have fun with it like Jomboy instead of faking intellectualism and overanalyzing a shallow subject and pretend there's any depth.

[@jcgp85]

At this point he only put the “cheating” Astros to get views.

[@Thatillegal]

Yeah trash content

[@blahblahblah777]

And perhaps because they literally did cheat and are cheaters in a literal sense.

[@El_toxico.713]

@@blahblahblah777 what he said went right over your head he clicked baited everyone to watch only to talk about the Astros for less then 2 minutes

[@mattf2146]

This was difficult to watch. X traded to V, and Y traded to Z. So and So was given to Z in exchange for X person. Then X ended up being traded for Z again! Ugh!

[@PsychoticDreams0]

At this point, it's still true.

[@endlessnameless3996]

Mike Fiers said, "I would like to see the LEAGUE cleaned up." This was in regards to sign stealing and obviously implying that it was league-wide, but nobody wants to talk about that.

[@DimaWydad1908]

Funny talk for a guy who needs pine tar to pitch

[@TheMETSMETS]

If the Mets had traded for Gomez and not Cespedes, my Mets don’t make the WS. After the Mets traded for Cespedes, he went off! Having one of the most insane streetches in Mets and baseball history! No Cespedes no World Series

[@Jonathan-gz1cp]

Still didn’t get the win so does it really matter

[@patrickshelton5546]

What happened to him?

[@patricksainclair2384]

@@Jonathan-gz1cp Gomez was done as a player soon after. the Mets kept Wheeler and Flores and didnt look like idiots getting washed in another dumb trade.

[@hxmcde]

cespedes was my favorite player i still have his jersey

[@henrycalde1991]

@@patrickshelton5546 he is still technically a free agent. I say if Cespedes would get off his high horse and take a minor league assignment to get his bat up to speed, he would be an impressive David Ortiz DH but from the right side.

[@shoukatsukai]

I want to forget this trade happened. Astros got a snitch and the centerfield version of 2022 Javy Baez.

[@JayBee-JB69]

It seems that NY is the only trash the Astros are beating lately

[@TexasSportsTV]

Any mentions on the big teams like the Yankees starting it in 2015, and the Astros acquisition of players like a former Mets and Yankee brought the system to Houston, a system that was league wide in 2017?

[@MCKevin289]

Or how the Yankees have been fighting in court for 2 years to prevent information about them cheating? Or how the Red Sox also did something similar? The whole league was doing it, the Astros became the sacrificial lamb. I can’t reveal more information but I know someone who’s close to my family who worked in the Yankees organization. All I’ll say is that everyone did it. Plus, Manfred is a known Yankees fan.

[@gamingonwheels2502]

nah that would ruin their narrative

[@marcoslaureano5562]

Really? So why have none of those teams been winning rings like the Astros - foh.

[@marcoslaureano5562]

@Throg exactly....

[@mbdg6810]

@@marcoslaureano5562 astros only got *ONE* how is that ringS?

[@chebrown5082]

really gonna put altuve on the thumbnail 🙄

[@michaeldressel8367]

You could have simplified the video by just what If the Astros never signed Carlos Beltran. He came from the Yankees and brought the system of cheating to the young Astros.

[@pacosinbad5938]

Say it louder for the people in the back!

[@DimaWydad1908]

@@pacosinbad5938 People in the back are way too arrogant sorry

[@xbrandon502x]

I'm 10 minutes in and have no idea where the he'll he's going

[@Ryan-cb1ei]

No he didn’t, and there’s rumors the Yankees got rid of him because they didn’t like what he was trying to do, and then he took it to the next level with the Astros. Beltran being a former Yankee is just an excuse for salty Yankees haters to try and talk shit. Whether you’re a fan of them or not that’s apparent.

[@ThaMediator]

At no point did this video outline how these trades directly affected the exposure of the astros cheating scandal lmao

[@AlejandraLopez-nu8lm]

You should do a video that exposes all the teams that have cheated and majorly history but you can start with the Commissioners letter about the Yankees that was finally unsealed

[@case139]

He's just a bitter anti-Astros shill. You can't talk about cheating in baseball without also mentioning the 2018 Red Sox and the 2015 Yankees. Besides, Chris Sale has settled that debate, saying we need to move on from all this. So has Joe Buck and Chris Bassitt. The year is now 2022.

[@propbraker]

As a Dodgers fan who's still bitter about the Astros, I can guess and say that all teams at one time or the other have cheated. Weather it's a single person, or group of people conspiring together. Just human nature, unfortunately.

[@smittywerbenjaegermanjense2350]

@@propbraker not as intricate or team wide as the Trashstros. They had Cameras and literal phone lines into the dug out to make sure every single cheater on the team got the signal for what pitch was coming. No other teams have ever cheated that bad. I’m tired of Trashstro fans defending their stupid team like it’s ok to do what they did if there were Rumors of 1 or 2 other teams doing it.

[@fredycastro5961]

@@smittywerbenjaegermanjense2350 2022 Houston astros world series champions 🏆

[@wilbert3842]

Parades has played the same amount of games for the rays as he did in two years for the tigers. The only difference is home runs, same amount of hits, walks, strike outs which is kind of strange

[@SchenckM1]

David Wright trade tree that spanned 40 years..

[@armadillolover99]

More like 30 but still. The craziest part to me is that one of the players involved in the tree officially signed away on the exact day Wright was born (December 20, 1982). What are the odds?

[@travisgore7053]

LOL. People who still cry about the Astros cheating are like bad exes, just get over it. It happened, they were punished, and now they’re not cheating and they’re winning just like before.

[@rkkzjj32]

Pick up your cross and follow Jesus! The world is quickly headed for destruction, and sooner or later you will have to sit at the judgement seat and give an account for your actions. Belief in messiah alone is not enough to grant you salvation - Matthew 7:21-23, John 3:3, John 3:36 (ESV is the best translation for John 3:36). Call on the name of Jesus and pray for Him to intervene in your life! - Revelation 3:20. Contemplate how the Roman Empire fulfilled the role of the beast from the sea in Revelation 13. Revelation 17 confirms that it is in fact Rome. From this we can conclude that A) Jesus is the Son of God and can predict the future or make it happen, B) The world leaders/nations/governments etc have been conspiring together for the last 3000+ years going back to Babylon and before, C) History as we know it is fake. You don't really need to speculate once you start a relationship with God tho. Can't get a response from God? Fasting can help increase your perception and prayer can help initiate events. God will ignore you if your prayer does not align with His purpose (James 4:3) or if you are approaching Him when "unclean" (Isaiah 1:15, Isaiah 59:2, Micah 3:4). Stop eating food sacrificed to idols (McDonald's, Wendy's etc) stop glorifying yourself on social media or making other images of yourself (Second Commandment), stop gossiping about other people, stop watching obscene content etc and you should get a response. Have a blessed day!

[@oldpeople1970]

What happen to the yankee caught cheating story

[@MM-dv8sw]

Are we really still whining about this?

[@jaycesmith7899]

2017 was lit. Go Go was a fan favorite in Houston kinda. No matter what, my Stros will be made the scapegoat to protect Boston, NY and LA.

[@bobnewfart]

You can't tell this clown little kid that made this video that.. lol He is a Metts fan..

[@juantovar5084]

Y’all still trying to bring up the Astros cheating scandal

[@pacosinbad5938]

But no one ever talks about the Boston Red Sox cheating the year after.

[@giovannipapigeorgio6306]

And after all that, the Astros are still whopping everyone’s assssss . 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@seraphimdunn]

Except the Braves in the WS.

[@pacosinbad5938]

@@seraphimdunn that was last season, stop living in the past!

[@DimaWydad1908]

@@seraphimdunn Wonder how many times the braves have been in the ws compared to the Astros

[@seraphimdunn]

@@DimaWydad1908 Wonder how many times the Braves have won the WS compared to the astros

[@LeafInFlames]

Athletics swept them

[@bon_tyler9256]

Wilmer Floress was my favorite player when he was on the mets

[@mike-0451]

Man the Astros just live in everyone’s heads, don’t they? Can’t stop talking about tHe ChEaTiNG aStRoS.

[@timb0gaming]

You could even argue that they really started to notice and crack down on other cheating, I’m mainly talking about “sticky stuff”. I officially like to believe that if that fiers was still in Milwaukee we would still have sticky stuff on the pitchers.

[@LJfootball14]

Good Lord. This is getting beyond ridiculous. People who have not played the game litterally have no idea that every single team in the MLB was doing something illegal but the Astros took the fall for all the teams. When are people going to give this nonsense a rest. 🤦‍♂️

[@treyribeiro9482]

Idea: Hal Newhouser quitting his scouting job for the astors in protest of not drafting Derek Jeter #1 in the 1992 draft

[@iamhungey12345]

This needs to be talked about more.

[@awkardAZN]

I enjoyed the video, kind of like a compilation of kind of connected (theoretically) oddities. That being said... bro, the payoff was not good. I am so confused how any of this plays together. The idea is great, the execution was at least thought out, but the landing was non-existent. Good video..... kinda.

[@nickmello9415]

Mike Fiers blew the whistle on the Astros. Wtf is this???

[@Patrick-dh5mv]

I like to think in 2019 Yelich’s injury while on the Brewers caused a butterfly effect where the guy who replaced him in the OF (can’t recall his name) made a crucial error in the WC game against the Nats that allowed the Nats to advance and eventually go on to win the WS that year, which then led to them basically selling off almost everyone and being the shockingly terrible team they are now.

[@Ryan-cb1ei]

That’s fine, they beat the Astros. Anyone will take it

[@user-ly4bz9fw3k]

what does any of this horseshit have to do with astros?

[@nickpercs3677]

As a mets fan the only error i find is that you said we didnt resign wheeler because he didnt showcase his true potential. But really its because the wilpons were cheap bum owners who let him walk after finally showing his true potential

[@Atsuro16]

I initially clicked on the video to point out your thumbnail features Altuve, who didn't participate in the sign stealing, but yeah. That was a really well-researched and explained video. Have a like... but also stop trying to make 'Tuve the poster boy of the cheating...

[@Thatillegal]

You’re yelling at a brick wall. These idiots don’t do any type of research before building an opinion, they Tun with the first thing that they agree with. We’re STILL the best team in the league to this day, Go stros.

[@karlrovey]

Not sure I buy that claim given Altuve's output dropped off for a while after the sign stealing was exposed.

[@rkkzjj32]

Pick up your cross and follow Jesus! The world is quickly headed for destruction, and sooner or later you will have to sit at the judgement seat and give an account for your actions. Belief in messiah alone is not enough to grant you salvation - Matthew 7:21-23, John 3:3, John 3:36 (ESV is the best translation for John 3:36). Call on the name of Jesus and pray for Him to intervene in your life! - Revelation 3:20. Contemplate how the Roman Empire fulfilled the role of the beast from the sea in Revelation 13. Revelation 17 confirms that it is in fact Rome. From this we can conclude that A) Jesus is the Son of God and can predict the future or make it happen, B) The world leaders/nations/governments etc have been conspiring together for the last 3000+ years going back to Babylon and before, C) History as we know it is fake. You don't really need to speculate once you start a relationship with God tho. Can't get a response from God? Fasting can help increase your perception and prayer can help initiate events. God will ignore you if your prayer does not align with His purpose (James 4:3) or if you are approaching Him when "unclean" (Isaiah 1:15, Isaiah 59:2, Micah 3:4). Stop eating food sacrificed to idols (McDonald's, Wendy's etc) stop glorifying yourself on social media or making other images of yourself (Second Commandment), stop gossiping about other people, stop watching obscene content etc and you should get a response. Have a blessed day!

[@STEEZY_TREV16]

@@Thatillegal You ain't sh*t. Not until you win without trash cans

[@matthewmerrow1]

Yes I’ve been waiting for you to talk about this one

[@John2000sBaby]

Lol it always cracks me up the way gringos pronounce spanish last names hahaha “Puhraydeez” 😂😂 Bless your heart ik you’re trying your best

[@originaljse9313]

A butterfly effect that could be interesting would be how the '94 strike led to the Nationals winning the World Series in 2019. The '94 season was the best chance for the Expos to have a good enough season to keep them in Montreal, but after the season got cut short, they were never able to have that kind of 'save the team' season again. That led to them moving to Washington a decade later, where they won the World Series. I'm sure there's more depth to it than that, but it would be interesting to dive into that.

[@BaseballAF]

I just wish Carlos Gomez was better for the Mets, he's such a fun player to watch.

[@Anthonygarcia-dr7oi]

why are people still crying about the astros

[@YoUnGBaNkS100]

This isa misleading video Astros were only mentioned like 3 times

[@KTBFFH8]

People love the Astros they generate clicks, money, attention, etc. Astros are the new dynasty thats why people can’t stop talking about them

[@JayArh41]

Where's the rest of the tour series you guys were doing? I was looking forward to your possible video about South Korean Baseball.

[@jawless7616]

I played against Austin in Highschool. He was one town over. Kid was a stud. He picked which professional sport he wanted. He had the option to go pro in basketball baseball and football. I remember playing left field while Austin was up to bat and he LAUNCHED one over my head. It was past me by the time I heard the ding off the bat. I never saw it land it went so far into the trees.

[@raysup3055]

Brewers ended up getting that short stop they wanted in Willy adames who stemmed from this trade. Willy we miss you in Tampa

[@kylesmith4599]

Get over it it was like 6 years ago

[@TexasSportsTV]

How it exposed league wide cheating but people only caring about the Astros*

[@King_Immanuel]

no the astros are the bad eggs that’s what the New York post told me

[@mbdg6810]

@@King_Immanuel LOL

[@STEEZY_TREV16]

Because their cheating directly lead to a World Series win

[@TexasSportsTV]

@@STEEZY_TREV16 Their cheating didn't make them win. No evidence supports that. It mightve hurt them, also, Red Sox 2018, and basically 99% of WS titles. Welcome to baseball dude.

[@STEEZY_TREV16]

@@TexasSportsTV Yes tf it did. It's the only reason they even made it in 2019 and it definitely was a factor in that insanely long game of the 2017 WS (can't remember if it was game 5 or 6). Quit living in denial and own up to your team's mistakes

[@PelosiStockPortfolio]

Can you make the direct connection between this non-trade and the guy ending up on the Astros any more clear? Going over 20 other people's career trajectories in the middle of this video really made it hard to follow. There seems to be a million other ways Fiers could have ended up on the Astros even if the trade happened

[@astro6437]

Astros still kicking ass!

[@supermariodinosaurs]

May we dive deeper into the trade that was between the colts and falcons which I dub the Matt Ryan trade

[@TheEmpire822]

I’d bet if you looked deep enough into a lot of the scandals or big issues in any major sports I’d bet there is something like this behind the scenes that just haven’t been found yet. It’s weird how things work out but the puzzle pieces don’t always get put together

[@ahsahm3996]

Imagine having Altuve in your thumbnail. A guy who didn’t use the trashcans during ‘17. Do better

[@DimaWydad1908]

Should have Evan Gattis instead

[@ahsahm3996]

@@DimaWydad1908 Or Marwin lol

[@houstonsportsfan1017]

All for clicks since Altuve is a big name

[@ahsahm3996]

@@houstonsportsfan1017 very true

[@ec7429]

Sounds like the Mets still cannot get over the 4 game butt whipping sweep the Astros handed them recently. No cheating either.

[@antimeta2472]

You should do a video on all the HOF players in the 50/60/70 who were doing greenies. But... but remember it's not cheating cause that's what the T.V. told me. 🙄

[@KTBFFH8]

The Astros didn’t do anything that wasn’t already being done in the league by others. Then the league threw the Astros under the bus to quite down the screams of yankee and dodger fans

[@chriscallahan3937]

Shouldn’t you have started in 2007 when the Mets traded Gomez to the twins to for Johan Santana

[@grandmastersethy]

Lol!

[@charleschemtob7263]

I have a butterfly effect scenario I want you to cover. It's about how Duaner Sanchez not getting room service in 2006 prevented the Mets from drafting Mike Trout.

[@jmiogo]

Not sure losing a game is "rock bottom"

[@Rymann_23]

Oh my god. That was one of the most complicated and hard to follow trade trees yet. Wow. I had to rewind like twice 😂😂 Damn that was well explained. Good job!

[@rkkzjj32]

Pick up your cross and follow Jesus! The world is quickly headed for destruction, and sooner or later you will have to sit at the judgement seat and give an account for your actions. Belief in messiah alone is not enough to grant you salvation - Matthew 7:21-23, John 3:3, John 3:36 (ESV is the best translation for John 3:36). Call on the name of Jesus and pray for Him to intervene in your life! - Revelation 3:20. Contemplate how the Roman Empire fulfilled the role of the beast from the sea in Revelation 13. Revelation 17 confirms that it is in fact Rome. From this we can conclude that A) Jesus is the Son of God and can predict the future or make it happen, B) The world leaders/nations/governments etc have been conspiring together for the last 3000+ years going back to Babylon and before, C) History as we know it is fake. You don't really need to speculate once you start a relationship with God tho. Can't get a response from God? Fasting can help increase your perception and prayer can help initiate events. God will ignore you if your prayer does not align with His purpose (James 4:3) or if you are approaching Him when "unclean" (Isaiah 1:15, Isaiah 59:2, Micah 3:4). Stop eating food sacrificed to idols (McDonald's, Wendy's etc) stop glorifying yourself on social media or making other images of yourself (Second Commandment), stop gossiping about other people, stop watching obscene content etc and you should get a response. Have a blessed day!

[@DEWITT2INFINITYANDBEYOND]

If you blame sign stealing and trash cans you a petty batch And they're still a top tier team even with new coach the distraction of this bs and letting some all stars go

[@Rymann_23]

Hey Mike I've got a great butterfly effect for you ahead of the trade deadline! Would love to see a video about it🙏 A Failed Yankees Trade in 2003 led to One of the Biggest Trades at the 2022 Deadline In 2001, the Yankees signed a Dominican shortstop by the name of Robinson Cano. After 2 years in the Yanks system, NY tried to trade him along with Sterling Hitchcock, Raul Mondesi and Jeff Weaver to the Cincinnati Reds for Scott Williamson, Gabe White, Ken Griffey Jr, and 30 mil cash. This rumor was leaked on July 27, 2003. Well about 10 days before the leak, Griffey got injured so the trade was off and the Yankees kept Cano in their system. Fast forward to the 2003 offseason and they tried to trade Cano again. This time Phil Rodgers of the Chicago Tribune reported a 3 team deal between the Yankees Angels and White Sox, where Cano and 2 Angels (Jarrod Washburn and Darin Erstad) would go to Chicago, fellow Yankees infield prospect Joaquin Arias would join the White Sox' Paul Konerko and Jose Valentin in heading to Anaheim, and Troy Glaus would go to the Yankees. But that trade fell through and the Yanks kept Cano once again. Separately but just as important: in that same offseason, NYY 3B Aaron Boone got injured playing basketball and missed the 2004 season so the Yankees now had to fill a hole at third. Following that event the Yankees then traded Alfonso Soriano and a PTBNL to the Texas Rangers for Alex Rodriguez. That PTBNL could have been Cano, but the Rangers instead opted to go with Joaquin Arias. So now to the 2004 trade deadline, Cano was drawing lots of interest. A Royals scout requested him to move to third base, so the Yankees moved him to the hot corner. The Yankees received trade offers that involved Cano from the Royals, Diamondbacks, Mariners and Braves, but they instead opted to trade for the Big Unit from Arizona without giving up Cano. In the 2004 offseason the Yankees chose to sign 2B Tony Womack instead of giving Cano a chance. But Cano's chance came anyway in May 2005 when Womack was terrible for NYY. Robbie took that chance and ran with it, and one anonymous Yankees official during the 2005 season said this: "Thank god we didn't trade him. Imagine if he was doing that for someone else? We'd never hear the end of it." After a solid first two seasons in the big leagues, Cano and the Yankees agreed to terms on a 4yr/$30MM contract extension with 2 club options for 2012 and 2013. Robinson Cano then became a superstar and one of the best offensive middle infielders in baseball. This led him to the 2013 offseason where he signed a 10yr/$240MM contract with the Seattle Mariners. Each year from 2014-2017 Cano produced a productive season, living up to his contract. But that all changed in 2018 when he got popped for steroids and missed 80 games. After he came back and the Mariners failed to make the playoffs, the team then decided they could not compete with a competitive AL with an aging roster. So then came the blockbuster. On December 3rd, 2018 the Mariners sent closer Edwin Diaz, second baseman Robinson Cano and cash to the New York Mets for a haul of prospects/veterans. Those prospects were outfielder Jarred Kelenic, pitcher Justin Dunn, pitcher Anthony Swarzak, OF/1B Jay Bruce and pitcher Gerson Bautista. This is where the focus is no longer on Cano or even Kelenic, who was deemed by everyone as the headliner. But for this butterfly effect we need to see what happens to Justin Dunn. After the trade, Dunn pitched for the Mariners for 3 seasons, battling injuries and underperformance. He was off to a solid start in 2021 before shoulder issues shut him down for the year. Then, after last winter's lockout, the Mariners dealt Dunn to the Cincinnati Reds alongside OF Jake Fraley, LHP Brandon Williamson and RHP Connor Phillips for outfielder Jesse Winker and 3B Eugenio Suarez. Winker and Suarez are the link to the most recent trade as they were teammates with Luis Castillo from 2017-2021. Manager Scott Servais said they were very vocal about adding Castillo to the team and advocating for a trade for Luis. I know it's a lot but that is the story of how a failed Yankees trade in 2003 led to the Seattle Mariners acquiring the best SP on the 2022 trade market.

[@broadstreetbullies849]

Idk if this has been covered but there was the classic A-Rod to Yankees, Red Sox win 4 World Series

[@raishauntanner4206]

This is the worst thing Jeff Luhnow ever did. Absolute disgrace.

[@ctkatz]

I think a really good butterfly effect to look at is the aftermath of the 2006 orange bowl between the university of louisville and wake forest. it really is fascinating how the events after that game got uofl into the acc, and it had nothing to do directly with uofl winning that game. it leads up to uofl vs uconn football in 2007 being the thing in my opinion that set the stage for the acc to invite uofl to the conference in 2014. and on the reverse side I would argue that if petrino doesn't leave for the nfl, the big east football conference still exists because it has 3 pretty strong nationally ranked teams.

[@Slothfries25]

About making a trade video of this years trades from astros. Cause josh bell look like he might be an astro soon just a rumors for dont know how good he actually is but he might replace yuli gurreil from astros as a trade couldn't spell his name right ? Great content by the way love the vids

[@BenjaminHyink]

Another butterfly effect is the Mariners signing of Robinson Cano allowed them to sign Luis Castillo long term

[@djsvarietychannel9664]

Johan Santana's trade to the Mets led to the Padres getting Soto Johan Santana was traded for Carlos Gómez among others J.J. Hardy was traded for Carlos Gómez in 2009 Hardy in 2010 was traded to the Orioles Manny Machado came up with the Orioles, moves to 3rd base because Hardy was at shortstop Machado signed a massive contract with the Padres because of his career success at 3rd base Machado is married to Yonder Alonso's sister, she took a picture of Soto and Machado standing next to each other at the all-star game and sent it to Yonder Yonder sent it to AJ Preller saying how good of a one-two combo it would be Preller trades for Soto

[@jonathanfrimerman8855]

And if Soto gets traded this year this trade tree will countinue

[@redfive5856]

I'll never forget watching the "Flores is traded" game and thinking, they couldn't trade Familia?

[@Beltran15x]

huh familia was dominant back then?

[@HouseDaddyHouse]

One thing I don’t get about this video. How can “Reds’ Justin Wilson: Traded go Cincinnati”? How can one be traded to the same team?

[@jab1289]

The Wizards' trading of Ben Wallace to Orlando for Ike Austin led to the Malice at the Palace.

[@Normal_is_boring25]

Anybody else hear Matpat from game theory

[@WillyGunZ]

Great video. Just earned a subscription. Look forward to see more content

[@Pixxie13a]

Omg. This was ridiculous. Rehashing things we already knew to take up space in the middle of the video. Not worth the watch. How do I get that 13:19 back.

[@jdorffer]

I was also emotional over this trade, I still miss watching Wilmer in NY

[@jovane1]

Season's not going well enough for ya?

[@stephangentry8901]

I mean it says in the mlbtr article that you showed nick franklin WAS a mariner and traded to the RAYS.

[@RodSerling.]

Almost every roster move has some kind of butterfly affect to some degree. Crazy to fathom but even something simple like a starter getting sent down creates ripples through the farm system. Interesting concept. Nice vid!

[@DadBreaks]

Love these kinds of stories. Well done.

[@Zoobar96]

I missed it...where is the part in the video where it is explained how the canceled trade caused the cheating to be discovered????

[@LDQBBQ]

Fine work. You have a great baseball channel.

[@NetsToTheFinals]

I was at that flores walk off game, i’m a yankees fan but some of my friends and dad are mets fans and that game was the most electric environment i’ve ever been in, shit was crazy

[@jareddube8391]

Awesome job with putting this video together, it must’ve taken a lot of research🙏

[@favre4ever39]

If I remember right Gomez was drafted by the Mets and sent to Minnesota as a part of the Johan Santana trade.

[@admiralkrankandhismightyba158]

The trade didn't cause the exposure. What a dumb bit of click bait crap.

[@BirdsongGaming3728]

@StarkRavingSports hey I want to let you know that clip you used of Mike moustak is hitting at home run in Pittsburgh and that one person bending back that was me cuz I lost the ball up in the Twilight I'm not blaming you I just laugh at that clip

[@genenile6737]

The Astros cheated so much they lost more games at home, scored less runs and had lower team stats. Shout out to my salty boys 🤣

[@angelmacias2084]

A lot of these names are a trip to hear after the 2022 trade deadline

[@Tr3yzle]

this was the longest most convoluted video to get to cover one topic.

[@daotero]

This was such a reach and way too long just for the ending to be “Mike Fiers snitched”

[@paulvalentine1483]

No one cares. Baseball has become an embarrassment.

[@KTBFFH8]

Id say baseball fans. I still enjoy watching the game

[@jordanleighton6893]

Watching this less than 30 minutes after the Brewers traded Hader hurt my soul