How a clutchless racing transmission works

  Рет қаралды 497,193

Fullboost

Fullboost

Күн бұрын

Пікірлер: 369
@roflcopter645
@roflcopter645 6 жыл бұрын
Shifting with that shifter sounds like you're loading a machine gun.
@CamTarn
@CamTarn 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, what a beautiful heavy-mechanical noise :D
@tonyallen2279
@tonyallen2279 5 жыл бұрын
@@CamTarn When it is full of oil you will not notice.
@CamTarn
@CamTarn 5 жыл бұрын
That's almost a pity. I *want* my car to sound like that :D
@stefanoconca2403
@stefanoconca2403 5 жыл бұрын
Andy Walker i drove a sequential gearbox racing car and you hear a lot.
@brokenacoustic
@brokenacoustic 5 жыл бұрын
Sounds like racking the slide of a rifle, and I like it,
@wphh7272
@wphh7272 Жыл бұрын
My goodness… The amount of engineering and workmanship to bring these mechanical pieces of art to life is astonishing! We are living in the tail end of mechanical artistry.
@oldsguy49
@oldsguy49 6 жыл бұрын
I had a Doug Nash in my car for about a decade. If you ever drive a car with one of these, you will never know what its like to truly speed shift. I can see that Mike Long an company have made some upgrades to keep the main shaft from moving around and those splined plates for the end are pretty impressive. If you have an automatic, even with a brake, you have no idea how hard a car hits with a clutch. God Bless the manual transmissions and the people that drive them, it truly is the best.
@vincentrobinette1507
@vincentrobinette1507 5 жыл бұрын
Remember when you HAD to know something to drive a car? If you don't drive a stick shift as part of the experience, you might as well get a hybrid. I wouldn't buy a sports car, unless it has a manual transmission, and a clutch.
@oldsguy49
@oldsguy49 8 ай бұрын
Had is past tense. I still do@@vincentrobinette1507
@FrostyBob99
@FrostyBob99 7 ай бұрын
Launching with a brake in a powerglide is like being shot out of a jello slingshot. It feels slushy but you're definitely leaving. I've always wanted to get a Jerico box but it's hard enough paying the bills and it's even harder to justify the money to the wife lol. I too think a real racecar should be a gear slammer.
@DaveHiggoHiggins
@DaveHiggoHiggins 6 жыл бұрын
I can honestly say I had no idea how it worked. I 'thought' I had an idea, but this was great. Thanks for the insight.
@timhallas4275
@timhallas4275 4 жыл бұрын
Motorcycle transmissions have worked this way for 80 years.
@Peter-V_00
@Peter-V_00 3 жыл бұрын
@@timhallas4275 Here's mine (in the link) I built myself 35 years ago, there a bit more to this type of gearbox (overriding) than this car guy knows, he blathers on on and on without really explaining anything. kzbin.info/www/bejne/aoawm4CLeLxjfdE
@timhallas4275
@timhallas4275 3 жыл бұрын
@@Peter-V_00 That's what I'm talking about. was that 5 or 6 gears? I forgot to count the shifts.
@Peter-V_00
@Peter-V_00 3 жыл бұрын
@@timhallas4275 Six, what's interesting that made it all work was I had to "split" a gear so it could be in two places at once, a bit abstract to explain I guess I should make a video of how it works.
@vincentrobinette1507
@vincentrobinette1507 5 жыл бұрын
Growing up, I called that shifter a Vertigate. We called that type of transmission a Ram-Shift. If you let off the gas, or, the engine stops, it looks like the transmission would throw itself into neutral. Does the shifter lock, or is it designed to decouple, to help maintain control of the car? For drag racing, I prefer a disconnection, to keep from skidding the drive wheels. Definitely NOT for street use. Any transmission with straight cut gears, were called Rock Crushers, because of the distinct whine, accompanied with a rocky sound. Noisy, but very durable. The straight cut gears don't produce the axial thrust loads that the quieter helix gears did. Beautiful transmission! Thanks for the video, My first look inside one of those.
@alexjohnward
@alexjohnward 5 жыл бұрын
you can see the dog teeth have ramps on the back, thats why it slips into neutral when coasting.
@derjaxxer
@derjaxxer Жыл бұрын
Super cool explanation, finally understood how a dog box works and why it doesn‘t have syncho rings
@jollyaustin
@jollyaustin 6 жыл бұрын
Great video! Love these types of how-to vids and it was explained very well, not too complicated to understand.
@Wojciech940
@Wojciech940 6 жыл бұрын
4:20 That sound, for a gear selecting, identical with what they did use in NFS game franchise to option selection... and it's basically 420... this video couldn't be any better
@josephmonaco4503
@josephmonaco4503 5 жыл бұрын
When I raced my 1970 SS 396/402 Chevelle in the 80's, I used a Hurst Super Shifter 3 in my car. It had very short throws and a separate shifter with a Lock-Out reverse lever. Back then there was a company that made a 4-Speed in line shifter. You pushed it forward for first, pulled it straight back for second and so forth, but you could do the same thing in reverse to downshift. My question is why doesn't lenco make their shifter so you can downshift all of your gears like the old inline shifter?
@deeremeyer1749
@deeremeyer1749 3 жыл бұрын
Because a Lenco is not A transmission. It is a STACK of separate planetary transmissions and power flow to and through them and "shifting" must be progressive. You're not "shifting gears". You're "engaging" progressively higher-geared planetary combinations and ratios.
@6rimR3ap3r
@6rimR3ap3r 6 жыл бұрын
Wow, another thing learned. Awesome gate mechanism, very unusual to anyone not involved.
@icykickflip
@icykickflip 5 жыл бұрын
everyone is now a transmission expert
@jaishetty8586
@jaishetty8586 5 жыл бұрын
To be honest, I learnt two things here. 1. the racing transmission is DIFFERENT. 2. How it works. Thanks buddy. Keep up the good work. My professors probably skipped on many other things I needed to learn, so will keep an eye for your videos.
@andrewwade5604
@andrewwade5604 5 жыл бұрын
Interesting. I had not seen inside one before. People complaining about clutchless (you can shift withput a clutch), and I think they missed describing the "sliders" a bit better. They look like they are two pieces. Each piece, on the dog side has one edge of the dog with a square edge, the other with a taper. How I think it works, is if it is in first, then the first slider is engaged. If the then put it in secnd, the second slider is also engaged. This causes the first gear to go faster than the slider and it pushes itself out of gear on the tapered edge, and the same through the gears If it didn't work like this, you could be in two gears at once or there would be a period in the shift where there was a neutral between the gears. It also means that the transmission disengages on overrun.
@SmoothCanoes
@SmoothCanoes 6 жыл бұрын
Any Fool Boost video is a good video! 👍
@SmoothCanoes
@SmoothCanoes 5 жыл бұрын
@@mareksumguy1887 I'm simply taking the piss, numbnuts
@tomtd
@tomtd 6 жыл бұрын
Used a heel and sequential in a corsa RWD I built for rallying. Totally fantastic. Wish I had one in my s2000. Why Honda went H pattern is beyond me. If they ever replace the S2K I do hope they go sequential.
@andrebartels1690
@andrebartels1690 5 жыл бұрын
That was informative and understandable. Thank you for sharing!
@abdulkadiryilmaz4085
@abdulkadiryilmaz4085 5 жыл бұрын
As a mechanical engineering student, I'm just speechless. The amount of effort of mechanical design, material science, thermodynamics and even fluid mechanics calculations-design while the process of making this gearbox just amazes me. It's just beautiful, kinda art in my eyes.
@milanrobich5186
@milanrobich5186 5 жыл бұрын
Did we really see the same video? I have seen the simpliest and the toughest kind of gearbox, primarily used just for fast racing upshifting and bad in everything else. A few massive straight cutted wheels, spinning in oil, shifted by a strong hand. The art of mechanical engineering is 8 speed ZF or Aisin auto transmission I mean ;)
@abdulkadiryilmaz4085
@abdulkadiryilmaz4085 5 жыл бұрын
@@milanrobich5186 I don't know if you ever tried to design any kind of gearbox by yourself, seems like not at all, making such a reliable, proper working and efficient gearbox for specialized purpose or not is so hard to do and took really long time, study, research etc. btw I didn't remember that I said zf or aisin is not art, they are also great art pieces in my eyes.
@jimpikoulis6726
@jimpikoulis6726 5 жыл бұрын
A kick ass Gearbox = FULLBOOST
@Xcieg
@Xcieg 5 жыл бұрын
Straight cut gears, bet the whine sounds like heaven.
@dazaspc
@dazaspc 6 жыл бұрын
Wow this brought back memories You just cant beat a dog box, the multi selector levers are defiantly the best way as well. The rotating selector rod adaptations are just are not as fast. I had an Impala Straight line and that sent many 3 speeds to an early grave.. I finally gave up on straight line shifters after 3 top loaders and several rebuilds behind a healthy SBC. The hours spent making and modifying syncros, well when you don't have money but you have access and time and can use a lathe and a mill. The MR Gasket I had was a nightmare to get just so it wouldn't split syncros but still change quickly. When is the August podcast due, looking forward. Cheers
@Noswolf
@Noswolf 6 жыл бұрын
Rotary counter weight right there on the table
@joequillun7790
@joequillun7790 4 жыл бұрын
Mr. Gasket was the originator of that shifter mechanism, made almost 50 yrs ago. It was a great unit. Can't find them anymore.
@thetalkingelement
@thetalkingelement 5 жыл бұрын
1,2,3,4,5 N parachute. Repeat.
@spiKey0svetlana
@spiKey0svetlana 3 жыл бұрын
I love the sound of switching gears like in this video. Would love to try a dogbox or basically something like this.
@TheCanadianBubba
@TheCanadianBubba 6 жыл бұрын
You might un-nerve yourself if not expecting it the first time you rebuild a standard transmission. I still distinctly remember the sound all those rollers made falling out of the cluster as they landed on the bench... did not think it would be like that, then sh!t gets real.
@vincentrobinette1507
@vincentrobinette1507 5 жыл бұрын
I'm glad I'm not the only one who has done that!😝🤣😁
@richardtayter3762
@richardtayter3762 4 жыл бұрын
I've never seen this trans before....What a great design! Case splits in half longitudinally and everything is just right there. Simple = Best. The only complex thing about it is that gated shifter. I've been in, out, and through perhaps a dozen automatics and 2 manual transmissions and after seeing this vid I hate them all. lol
@drd1924
@drd1924 2 жыл бұрын
thanks for showing us how this works! very cool
@wrong2h8
@wrong2h8 6 жыл бұрын
"Clutchless". Just like how the new SkyActiv is "Compression ignition"....with a damn sparkplug...
@elioliver9554
@elioliver9554 5 жыл бұрын
This is as clutchless as a transmission gets
@fokjohnpainkiller
@fokjohnpainkiller 5 жыл бұрын
@@elioliver9554 CVT's are closer to clutch-less I'd argue. Regardless I don't see the hate for Mazda's innovation. They are doing an amazing job
@alexjohnward
@alexjohnward 5 жыл бұрын
no syncroclutches.
@DoRC
@DoRC 5 жыл бұрын
Clutchless shifting. What don't you understand?
@wrong2h8
@wrong2h8 5 жыл бұрын
@@fokjohnpainkiller Ain't hating, just stating the obvious. A clutch is a clutch. It's like dysons Cinetic Vacuums being "completely filterless". Even though there are two filters after the motor. A filters a filter. If it walks like a 🦆. Talks like a 🦆. It's probably a 🦆.
@MafiaboysWorld
@MafiaboysWorld 6 жыл бұрын
That was an awesome video boys, thoroughly enjoyed every moment of it. 👍 When is another episode of Project Redline coming?
@icykickflip
@icykickflip 5 жыл бұрын
8:06 i could watch that on loop forever... wierd ASMR....
@AlienPizza38
@AlienPizza38 4 жыл бұрын
icykickflip 👍only for real gear heads
@matthewweisenburger2095
@matthewweisenburger2095 6 жыл бұрын
Never heard a dog box called clutchless I clicked cause I thought they did away with the clutch but nope just a dog box that still has a clutch
@calvin99991
@calvin99991 6 жыл бұрын
How would you engage the trans without a clutch? The "clutchless" only refers to shifts.
@matthewweisenburger2095
@matthewweisenburger2095 6 жыл бұрын
cjshaker i was expecting some sort of hybrid between an automatic and manual idk you can shift without the clutch on any transmission so calling it clutchless is really dumb
@MustGoFasterVR4
@MustGoFasterVR4 6 жыл бұрын
@@matthewweisenburger2095 I'm with Matthew. Maybe it's related to where we are at in the world, but in the USA this is most commonly know as a dog box.
@BackyardMechanics
@BackyardMechanics 6 жыл бұрын
@@MustGoFasterVR4 in drag racing circles this is always refereed to as a clutchless transmission (even the manufactures of these transmissions GForce & Liberty Gears (USA companies) call them clutchless transmissions. road racing or circuit racing guys refer to gearboxes with similar gearsets as dog boxes generally however.
@flavortown3781
@flavortown3781 5 жыл бұрын
@@calvin99991 this isn't a dogbox this is a constant mesh
@rdaw33
@rdaw33 Жыл бұрын
What you didn't cover is how the ramps are set up so when engaging a gear, the ramps automatically disengage the prior ratio. However, nice video!!!
@zabnat
@zabnat 5 жыл бұрын
Would be interesting to see a comparison of this type of gearbox and a sequential gearbox with straight cut gears. Both have dog engagement and if both have straight cut gears are there more differences than the gear linkage?
@enwri
@enwri 5 жыл бұрын
You don't have to back off at all to change gear, but this box looks like it doesn't do downshifts. Ramps on the back of the dogs will spit it out of gear if the engine slows or seizes. Drag box only.
@ameunier41
@ameunier41 5 жыл бұрын
I don't think there is. They have a video on F1 transmission and it's just that, a sequential dog-box. The only difference is the forks are mounted on a shifting barrel.
@alexjohnward
@alexjohnward 5 жыл бұрын
there is one interesting difference I noticed, typically a race car gearbox inputs on the layshaft and transmits to the mainshaft, this box transmits to the mainshaft, down to the layshaft and back to the mainshaft for 1 2 3 4. The bonus is that 5th acts as a gearless shaft for maximum efficiency when it is needed the most (in drags at least)
@enwri
@enwri 5 жыл бұрын
@@alexjohnward I think it just gets rid of an extra failure point, at the expense of having 1:1 ratio (could do it with gears), and efficiency.
@midnightspecial2990
@midnightspecial2990 6 жыл бұрын
So I gather you can only upshift, not downshift.
@fullboost
@fullboost 6 жыл бұрын
Yes
@caig9868
@caig9868 Жыл бұрын
Fascinating stuff!
@edifyguy
@edifyguy Ай бұрын
It looks like if someone REALLY REALLY felt the need to make this usable for onroad applications, you could make extensions on the slider levers that reached into the cab so you could shift it into any arbitrary gear like is needed for on-road driving. It would still be a royal pain, though, because it would want to go into neutral any time you lifted off the gas. Also, it looks like he's turning the output shaft and calling it the input shaft, because when he goes into first gear, the small gear is on the shaft he's not turning.
@twl197860
@twl197860 5 жыл бұрын
I have a Cat7 that had a pneumatic in it when I bought it but was just so slow shifting drove me crazy . Ever watch TopGear remember Jeremy Clarkson when he was talking about the trans on the Smart roadster I'd say the trans my car came with was 10x worse . I took it to a trans shop and they said there wasn't anything wrong with it . So I swapped it out for one with mechanical linkage instead of pneumatic . Up side is it shifts quicker . Down side shifting is a little heavier . Wait is that really a down side my mom never wants to borrow it anymore .
@larrylomascolo6289
@larrylomascolo6289 3 жыл бұрын
I had muncie,s in my time,,these were not available yet,Doug Nash 5 spd.was race trans. Borg -Warner T-10 ,with Liberty gears was used also ,Would love to try a G or a Jericho now,,
@deeremeyer1749
@deeremeyer1749 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah. Doug Nash 5-speed = "race trans" because "OD" was/is so commonly used in "racing".
@jeffreyallen3992
@jeffreyallen3992 6 жыл бұрын
Any Constant mesh transmission is clutchless.. just blip the power and shift the lever.. easy.
@jaishetty8586
@jaishetty8586 5 жыл бұрын
oh ok,. I learnt something tonight. thanks buddy.
@mrnice88x
@mrnice88x 5 жыл бұрын
Pretty cool, I always wondered how it worked.
@joebledsoe257
@joebledsoe257 5 жыл бұрын
I never use a clutch anyway up or down, except to start and stop. But don't take it wrong as this has a definite use.
@maverickmangion188
@maverickmangion188 5 жыл бұрын
Thats a gift from god yo
@ldnwholesale8552
@ldnwholesale8552 6 жыл бұрын
I am fairly certain these boxes are used in Nascar road course. But ofcourse with a real shifter. Vertical gate shifters have been around a million years.
@deeremeyer1749
@deeremeyer1749 3 жыл бұрын
No they're not.
@peterb7372
@peterb7372 6 жыл бұрын
good explaining thanks man
@MrDavidelliottjr
@MrDavidelliottjr 6 жыл бұрын
I want to put this in my daily driver mustang.
@vincentrobinette1507
@vincentrobinette1507 5 жыл бұрын
Before you try that, learn to pull the trans you have out of gear at the same time, you let off the accelerator. This transmission will NOT hold the car back, when you lift off the pedal. But, for upshifting, you can't beat it. Down shifting for passing can be done, but a bit tricky.
@MrDavidelliottjr
@MrDavidelliottjr 5 жыл бұрын
@@vincentrobinette1507 sounds easy
@deankdx
@deankdx 4 жыл бұрын
learning something from fullboost yet again.. how do you "build boost" with a manual at the tree ? perhaps a new video on it?
@enwri
@enwri 5 жыл бұрын
Hold it flat and jerk it hard..Hardest part is pulling it out of gear under load, the ramped dogs and plenty of space between them, lets it hook into the next gear with a bang..Brutal. All those smashable dogs and rings are sacrificial. Also looks like the ramps on the back of the dogs would spit it out of gear if you backed off or engine seized. This gearbox does one thing only, and does it well, smash through the gears one way and hard.
@joshmonroe2562
@joshmonroe2562 5 жыл бұрын
A true clutchless will "pull" it self out of gear once the next gear is engaged. It's inherent of there design.
@vhsle6ltr
@vhsle6ltr 3 жыл бұрын
Is that slight ramp on the backside of the dog to allow flat shifting? If not, I can't get my head around getting it out of gear with full load on it
@kencohagen4967
@kencohagen4967 6 жыл бұрын
Can you still use the clutch in a serious pro street car to save wear on the Trans?
@YansenHaryanto4547
@YansenHaryanto4547 6 жыл бұрын
i've read an article a long time ago, that in racing, every mili seconds that you can gain is important. shifting with depressing the clutch first took longer than just shifting the dog gear... and in racing, the trans is designed to take the abuse
@jeffreyallen3992
@jeffreyallen3992 6 жыл бұрын
Serious Pro street cars run Lenco transmission...just yank the lever.
@vq37vhr12
@vq37vhr12 5 жыл бұрын
You cant downshift a gear at a time really so on the street Its useless
@blubu68
@blubu68 5 жыл бұрын
@@vq37vhr12 With that shifter you can't, not fast anyways, but with a H-pattern you can.
@timcrary4249
@timcrary4249 6 жыл бұрын
Being straight cut gears they will make a lot of noise!!
@thetalkingelement
@thetalkingelement 5 жыл бұрын
Coming from a rotary I don’t think it matters.
@sparky173j
@sparky173j 5 жыл бұрын
Those engines don't usually use mufflers, so the gear noise is insignificant
@liguangzhang1031
@liguangzhang1031 5 жыл бұрын
Nice Introduction
@ag135i
@ag135i 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the informative video is it sequential gearbox?.
@ClayWheeler
@ClayWheeler 3 жыл бұрын
Well yes, but not always. For comparison, all Formula One cars from 1994 to this day are using Sequential Gearbox with Semi-Automatic Transmission. Which means the F1 Car itself is actually Automatic, but the driver can shift the gear at will. And then there's Electric Sequential Gearbox which the Lever is in the Steering Wheel like Koenigsegg cars, and F1 Cars from 2004 to this day. And then most Rally Cars are fitted with this Gearbox, even the Ford Focus.
@matthewsmyk9091
@matthewsmyk9091 6 жыл бұрын
Great video. Like the explanations re pros and cons. What would a gearbox like this cost in Aus? Keep up the tech and teach vids. can always learn from guys in the know. cheers
@Peter-V_00
@Peter-V_00 Жыл бұрын
The downside of this gearbox is you can't back off of it until you get it in high gear, if you do back off then the ramped drive dogs will "ratchet" bending the shift forks in the process.
@muhdharith2790
@muhdharith2790 5 жыл бұрын
Can it be use for daily driving
@transfixleo
@transfixleo 5 жыл бұрын
No. He said it would go to neutral if you decelerate. You would have to come to a complete stop to re engage.
@somphothbsiratsamy3748
@somphothbsiratsamy3748 5 жыл бұрын
I like.... but I hate those exterior shift links
@realvanman1
@realvanman1 5 жыл бұрын
I presume the throttle is held wide open and the ignition is briefly interrupted to allow the shift? Is that also operated by the shifter? Saw a drag bike once that had a trans like that except it was operated by an air cylinder and a solenoid valve. The ignition interrupt worked in conjuntion with the solenoid valve.
@EatMyYeeties
@EatMyYeeties 5 жыл бұрын
From my understanding you just lightly let off the gas to reduce tension on the dog teeth, one tension is reduced, you force the shift. I've always been told to drive it like you hate it. The more force you use, the better the tooth engagement. I'm sure the do make interrupt-style as well for specific applications though.
@nicksz8909
@nicksz8909 5 жыл бұрын
Real van man is right, on sportbikes and dragbikes you get a quickshifter that momentarily cuts the spark while shifting to release pressure on the dogs. the quickshifter gets wired between the ignition and the ECU
@InTheDogHouse3DPrinting
@InTheDogHouse3DPrinting 5 жыл бұрын
From what I gathered from the video he said he doesn't lift on the throttle because the trans doesn't like it. It's full throttle and banging gears.
@dallatorretdu
@dallatorretdu 5 жыл бұрын
@@EatMyYeeties On motorcycle dog boxes if you manually ease off the throttle the shift level engages really smoothly, kinda same with a quick shifter but you have to trip it and engage the next gear in a single swift movement, depending on the loop quality that you have installed
@milanrobich5186
@milanrobich5186 5 жыл бұрын
The throttle is held fully open when upshifting and the ignition cutting switch is usually placed on the shifting rod. The time of ignition cut (miliseconds) is the object of testing to ensure the minimum stress to the the gearbox and also the precision of shift. You can do the same on the bike without the quickshifter, with a short throttle release simultaneously with upshift (not using a clutch), but you have to train a little bit and never would be so accurate.
@olivertaylor8788
@olivertaylor8788 3 жыл бұрын
That's what I need on my riding mower,
@muhammadhashir2266
@muhammadhashir2266 5 жыл бұрын
Which clutch does a dog box uses? is it a dry type friction clutch or a wet type multi plate or a cone clutch? plz answer
@HarelDZL
@HarelDZL 5 жыл бұрын
Okay i get it,clutchless you guys mean is for "you dont need clutch when you shift"....... Many guys here think its actual clutch-less=no clutch at all....but turque conv can replace the ordinary clutch,so when you use torque conv+this kind of transmission,you got no clutch.....but still use concept of " clutching"
@mdbadalmiah6808
@mdbadalmiah6808 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you Sir
@hyperslow556gungamer
@hyperslow556gungamer Жыл бұрын
That looks far easier to work on then a transmission that needs a press to move the output-shaft to get to the circlip.
@betoen
@betoen 5 жыл бұрын
Is that a Wankel block in the work bench?
@Smokey-88
@Smokey-88 5 жыл бұрын
I had a v gate shifter on my Muncie, ba
@joequillun7790
@joequillun7790 4 жыл бұрын
Same hear Smokey. Almost 50 years ago, Mr. Gasket had a V-gate that was probably the original design of the shifter in this video. I drove one in my Goats on the street for over 10 years, and only missed 2 shifts in that time. Was such a blast back then.
@MrSaemichlaus
@MrSaemichlaus Жыл бұрын
That slider with the engaging teeth reminds me of how an impact drill works, of course this tranny should stay engaged once the gear is in.
@derranged28
@derranged28 6 жыл бұрын
Do you shift at full throttle with no lift or ignition cut? Literally slam it through the gears?
@100mostlyauthentic
@100mostlyauthentic 6 жыл бұрын
was wondering the same thing
@BackyardMechanics
@BackyardMechanics 6 жыл бұрын
Yep, just slam through the gears !
@josedourado3747
@josedourado3747 6 жыл бұрын
So it's not going to last long due to the sleeve ripping right?
@vincentrobinette1507
@vincentrobinette1507 5 жыл бұрын
This is a high maintenance drag racing transmission. you freshen this up, when you pull the engine to freshen it up. (usually before each racing season).
@sbethon8958
@sbethon8958 3 жыл бұрын
I want to ask, can the gearbox without clutch be reversed? Thankss
@PerthBoyz
@PerthBoyz 6 жыл бұрын
Love how an Australian builds em Haahhahahahaah to rights
@indrajitmajumdar8590
@indrajitmajumdar8590 5 жыл бұрын
Now I believe I can make one for me.
@RobertKohut
@RobertKohut 5 жыл бұрын
Nice!!
@louismorgan2679
@louismorgan2679 2 жыл бұрын
Very clever design, I suppose it eliminates the risk of missing a gear or money shifting whilst in a drag race
@mezje
@mezje 6 жыл бұрын
Ripper video!
@justindavidavery
@justindavidavery 3 жыл бұрын
Libertys gears makes the best clutch less transmission
@MarcoRicciMalerbi
@MarcoRicciMalerbi 3 жыл бұрын
Why would you prefer straight teeth gears to helical gears? i thought you would use the second type because of the extended contact arc and the greater tork appliable...
@BH4x0r
@BH4x0r 3 жыл бұрын
The issue with standard helicals is that they try to push away from each other (side thrust), giving extra strain onto the axle and perhaps the bearings, because the teeth are at a different angle than 90° Unless the gears are herringbone style that is (both helicals going in a different direction in one gear) this will always be an issue.
@IceStone69
@IceStone69 5 жыл бұрын
What abt for a gokart or buggy??
@Jenuin
@Jenuin 6 жыл бұрын
Love that manual transmission. Forget auto... where is the fun?
@Hellsong89
@Hellsong89 6 жыл бұрын
fun and more over control. I have gone off from road thanks to automatic. Icy corner, rear end got lose, gave it a more gas to keep it drifting (FWD).. all was good, until gearbox decided to chance bigger gear what killed all torque i needed and i slided off from road..That was last time i'm driving automatic -.-
@vincentrobinette1507
@vincentrobinette1507 5 жыл бұрын
I absolutely agree! For those who don't, they're better off driving a Hybrid.
@Scootermagoo
@Scootermagoo 5 жыл бұрын
I'm sitting here reading comments and thinking you guys have no idea what you are talking about. *Commentors* This is basically a regular 5 speed transmission with cut down blockers and synco's. You remove half or more of the syncros and blockers and cut them at a specific angle and you do not need a clutch to disengage the tranny most guys use a rev limiter to slightly stop the power to change gears in a dogbox. This is a true clutchless transmission and basically the sliders are not fully locked and the only thing keeping them in gear is power on as soon as power is interrupted the tranny falls out of gear and can be changed, the shape of the slider dictates if you can do this or not. A standard street transmission the blockers and syncros are t shaped and keep the tranny locked in gear while coasting or in and out of throttle stuff, if you drive a manual normally and rest your hand on the shifter *which is really a bad idea btw stop being lazy and take your hand off the handle* the tranny can't come out of gear, these are designed to come out of gear on purpose. The shifter is called a long style shifter as the name on the handle suggests and they run a few hundred dollars or an inline shifter. There is styles of shifter that are v patterns and H pattern but the long style is the fastest of the shifters generally. Basically this is a really beefy version of a ford toploader with an extra gear. I hope this helps dispels some of the nonsense people are typing.
@milanrobich5186
@milanrobich5186 5 жыл бұрын
Have you ever seen, how small and weak are the syncromesh teeths on street tranny? Whatever you change on them, clutchless shifting buries it very fast. This transmission is racing sequential without any syncros. Just the ignition cut and the fast shifter movement of massive dog ring. nothing more. The shape of shifter does not matter.
@joshmonroe2562
@joshmonroe2562 5 жыл бұрын
You sir have no idea what you're talking about. The only similarities between this trans and a street, or modified street trans for that matter, is the presence of gears and some shafts. The style, design, and function of the internals between the two are competely different.
@SunilSundar
@SunilSundar 5 жыл бұрын
When you're at rest and going from neutral to first, and both shafts are stationary, if the dogs are not aligned with the slots, how do you shift?
@mikemakesathing
@mikemakesathing 5 жыл бұрын
The input shaft spins with the engine so one shaft will move once the clutch is released.
@amarularif3110
@amarularif3110 6 жыл бұрын
Can you daily it?
@Razorfish
@Razorfish 4 жыл бұрын
I'm familiar with the road-racing cousin but one thing I'm not clear on that might be different from road-race boxes is, do you shift under full power or the driver has to lift or some automatic system?
@fullboost
@fullboost 4 жыл бұрын
These boxes are designed to shift under WOT yes.
@kellygordon103
@kellygordon103 2 жыл бұрын
@@fullboost there's has to be sooner sort of ignition cut to unload there dogs though.
@xxoan.1613
@xxoan.1613 5 жыл бұрын
this is something like the squential gearbox, doesn´t it?
@top10tokyodrifts79
@top10tokyodrifts79 5 жыл бұрын
Could you theoretically drive this on the street? Down shifting would be a hassle but couldn't you just go from 4th to 3rd by holding up on that lever on the shifter, or just go all the way to the top and go back through the gears while holding in the clutch?
@thestickcahhhh
@thestickcahhhh 5 жыл бұрын
Not a clutchless box, because it pops out of gear on deceleration, but these transmissions are available in a clutch assisted configuration, and they are fine on the street. I have done 2 dragweeks with liberty's clutch assist version of this transmission.
@wannabecarguy
@wannabecarguy 5 жыл бұрын
@@thestickcahhhh you drive with straight cut gears?
@thestickcahhhh
@thestickcahhhh 5 жыл бұрын
@@wannabecarguy yes, there are quite a few guys running transmissions like this on dragweek.
@mihailpetrovici5044
@mihailpetrovici5044 5 жыл бұрын
This would be a good asmr for carguys 4:30
@damnationswarhead8005
@damnationswarhead8005 6 жыл бұрын
informative :)
@nikolai502
@nikolai502 5 жыл бұрын
How does it look when the driver pulls one too many times during gearing and gets it in reverse?
@lopatovich
@lopatovich 5 жыл бұрын
Search for "money shift" ;)
@joemarshall5843
@joemarshall5843 4 жыл бұрын
i wouldnt say he knows all about it or shows all... slider wear one example was fine on the drive side where his mate said it was ordinary at start of vid .. it was prob out of the other side and could be turned around as a perfect slider ... ...and the fact he missed on this early design he didnt say it stays in gear while youre driving and fork spreads the pair of what he called sliders with spring pressure that hold them together for purpose of having neutral .to get it into the next gear 1-2 eg
@misssalong542
@misssalong542 5 жыл бұрын
good jub
@hanselgretel8563
@hanselgretel8563 4 жыл бұрын
is this what Mike Finnegan used in Blasphemi?
@bighomieJ5X
@bighomieJ5X 6 жыл бұрын
These transmissions are made for a man!! A true racer imo..any1 can release a transbrake and step on the gas pedal.
@andregross7420
@andregross7420 5 жыл бұрын
Do you have to let off the throttle to shift with one of those boxes?
@fullboost
@fullboost 5 жыл бұрын
Nope 👍
@deeremeyer1749
@deeremeyer1749 3 жыл бұрын
Not with some gutless little import rice or tea-grinder "race engine" in front of it.
@andregross7420
@andregross7420 3 жыл бұрын
@@deeremeyer1749 are you about to tell me how anything other than an american v8 is trash?
@Mrlimbus2060
@Mrlimbus2060 6 жыл бұрын
1:40 is that at perth?
@BackyardMechanics
@BackyardMechanics 6 жыл бұрын
Sydney Dragway
@Mrlimbus2060
@Mrlimbus2060 5 жыл бұрын
@@BackyardMechanics oh just the grandstands looked similar
@kevinandersen3255
@kevinandersen3255 Жыл бұрын
So is there any way to go in reverse without being in 5th
@mikeskidmore6754
@mikeskidmore6754 11 ай бұрын
The Case splot vertically looks a lot like a Doug Nash / Richmond Gear 5 speed..
@spiro5327
@spiro5327 6 жыл бұрын
Wonder how this compares to SAMSONAS for drag racing
@11Hemi345
@11Hemi345 5 жыл бұрын
Could you daily drive with one of these?
@fullboost
@fullboost 5 жыл бұрын
We have seen people use them on the road, but in short...No :)
@petercunningham3469
@petercunningham3469 2 жыл бұрын
V gates been around forever kind of like that gearbox 🤣
@anomilumiimulimona2924
@anomilumiimulimona2924 5 жыл бұрын
The fth/reverse heim is either loose and or waisted.
@beachboardfan9544
@beachboardfan9544 5 жыл бұрын
Why run such a long distance between gears? When the sliders are between gears theres probably 1/4" of play between the gear face plate and slider, wouldn't a much smaller distance be quicker and shortening the system will make it stiffer/stronger?
@milanrobich5186
@milanrobich5186 5 жыл бұрын
Seems that the smaller gaps will increase the risk of misshift, since the longer distance allows the shifting fork/dog ring get a bigger speed towards the shifted wheel?
@tonyturner779
@tonyturner779 6 жыл бұрын
Could you run this in a daily driver Cummins.
@BackyardMechanics
@BackyardMechanics 6 жыл бұрын
not really. they do not down shift very well at all. they are designed for drag racing to go up the gears 1-2-3-4-5 in that order only.
@tonyturner779
@tonyturner779 6 жыл бұрын
@@BackyardMechanics well thanks for taking the time to answer that. It would have been cool. Lol
@TEYRIS01
@TEYRIS01 3 жыл бұрын
SO when you shift, lets say to 4 from 3, the motor go almost instantly from 7000 to 5000 rpm (for example). So the 6 little notch, which engage into the right gear have to resist from the instant deceleration of all the moving part inside the motor (crankshaft, piston ...) How the hell this survive more than 500 km without breaking or producing lot of iron filings ?
@fullboost
@fullboost 3 жыл бұрын
500km is a lot of 1/4 Mille pases 👍 Yes these sorts of gearboxes require maintenance they are not designed for street use.
Manual Transmission Operation
24:04
WeberAuto
Рет қаралды 10 МЛН
7 Things You Didn't Know About Drag Racing
5:33
PapadakisRacing
Рет қаралды 6 МЛН
I thought one thing and the truth is something else 😂
00:34
عائلة ابو رعد Abo Raad family
Рет қаралды 7 МЛН
Real Man relocate to Remote Controlled Car 👨🏻➡️🚙🕹️ #builderc
00:24
What's Inside an F1 Gearbox (& How it Works) | F1 Engineering
12:03
Difference Between Manuals Sequential & H-Pattern Dog Box
13:52
Motive Video
Рет қаралды 504 М.
How to Build an F1 Gearbox (and How it Shifts) | F1 Engineering
15:58
Torque converter in a manual transmission - will it work?
15:05
Garage 54
Рет қаралды 657 М.
We Bought The Most INSANE Transmission Ever For Our Godzilla Swapped Mustang!!!!
14:59
How a Manual Transmission and Clutch Works
10:23
Animagraffs
Рет қаралды 3,6 МЛН
NASCAR 4 SPEED TRICKS FOR A STREET 4 SPEED
22:12
GearBoxVideo
Рет қаралды 135 М.
Why you shouldn’t get a CVT transmission
12:42
Deutsche Auto Parts
Рет қаралды 2,5 МЛН