How a Dice can show that God exists

Is the universe that produced us just a result of a chance roll of the cosmic dice? Justin Brierley, presenter of the apologetics debate show Unbelievable? explains why his dice (yes we know it should be 'die' really) proves otherwise.
With thanks to Peter Ould for help with the maths.
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[@adryian2925]

Is that Hawkeye?

[@akuljamwal3085]

So that's what he was doing when half of the beings in universe turned to dust

[@executerc.o.o.l6156]

You're the type of guy I was searching for in this comment section..😂😂

[@PrinceMody97]

😂😂😂

[@questionablechannel1262]

That's were he was during infinity war!

[@ivonnewarow4796]

Not by his voice

[@SuperLusername]

At first we thought the Earth was flat, scientists disagreed. Then we thought there was no America, scientists disagreed. We thought Earth was the only planet, scientists disagreed. We thought Sun was different from stars, scientists disagreed. We thought everything revolves around the Earth, scientists disagreed. See the pattern? We think there is a god, scientists disagree. How many times did science manage to prove something and how many times did religion manage to prove something? I'll stick with science, thanks!

[@diamanterz9979]

sounds like a good bet for me ;)

[@miningape]

Correlation is not Causation... Also not all scientists disagreed (only a couple) and then the idea spread. :))

[@thegreenbeanfightingmachin5841]

Evilsamar many scientist are religious. I'm Christian and I love science. Just cuz there is a pattern doesn't mean that the next logical step is true

[@SuperLusername]

Thegreenbeanfightingmachine It doesn't but is most likely to be true. I imagined number x, can you guess which one it is? A little help: 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,x I think logic, and following a pattern can help you very much.

[@SuperLusername]

miningape How does your court atorney argument apply here? I don't understand.

[@Czar_Moss]

a big problem with this kind of thinking is assuming that we are the perfect odds and life can only exist the way it does now

[@davidescobar5366]

The odds that there is yet other life and maybe not exactly as we know it still and created only by chance on even more planets and solar systems in the Universe are perhaps so great that if we were to start calculating now perhaps we might not live to finish doing so.

[@satuliebe4842]

Nah, some scientist already discussed that we might be the only intelligent being exist in the entire universe based on lots of proof, one that I remember the most are when they gave out the argument on how there's maybe million of habitable planet like earth out there plus the universe have been around of more than billions years but nobody ever to visit us considering it would only take hypothetically speaking 4 millions years to develop fast travel spaceship accord to human technology progress

[@Czar_Moss]

@@satuliebe4842 yea but there's so many factors and were pretty in the dark, so what we "know" could be based entirely on incorrect info. probably not but its possible

[@marcomarco7750]

Not really, that's only means that the world is extremely complexe (but logic) to out little brain.

[@analarson2920]

Its all speculation but clearly something elaborate is occuring and not by chance

[@TeacherNeillKEnglish]

What if the dice were 'rickrolled' 70000 times? The Universe would never let us down like it does now

[@skipads5141]

Never meant to hurt you.

[@eliwalker6245]

John 7:7 King James Version 7 The world cannot hate you; but me it hateth, because I testify of it, that the works thereof are evil. Hebrews 11:6 King James Version 6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him. John 1 King James Version 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. God loves you so much that He sent His only begotten Son to die on the cross to pay for your sins. If you believe and put your trust in Jesus Christ, that He died on the cross to pay your sin debt and that He rose again on the third day, you will be saved. once you are saved, you will not die in your sins and be damned to hell for eternity. God will remove your sins and your soul will be washed clean with the blood that Jesus Christ shed for us on the cross. your own good works will not get you into heaven. Jesus Christ did all of the work for you, all you have to do is believe and put your trust in Him and He will save you. Ephesians 1:13 King James Version 13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,. Jesus Christ is coming back very soon and we all have to be ready. I pray in Jesus Christ's mighty name that you be saved. God bless:)

[@djangotriump8025]

@@eliwalker6245 God is Lie ,nobody exixts on purpose

[@popscola2574]

@@eliwalker6245 oh king james. Lebron james wrote that book. Cool

[@eliwalker6245]

@@popscola2574 Jesus Christ is the only way to heaven. Jesus Christ Loves you so much. Hell is real. You can have eternal life through The Lord Jesus Christ, please read the verses below. God Bless:). 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 King James Version 15 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; 2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. 3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: Ephesians 1:13 King James Version 13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, God Bless:) It's eternity, you want to spend it in heaven not hell. Please read the book of John, and ask God for understanding and He will show you. Please look into it. The evidence is all there. Also look up Lee Strobel " Case for Christ" God Bless:)

[@mrdarkevilme]

the odds against winning the lottery are millions to one, therefore no one has won the lottery.

[@antoinebourdon9964]

lotteries are made to be won. Numbers don't repeat themselves. So your argument is irrelevant. When using dice, numbers repeat themselves. Past a certain number of tries, the odds will repeat themselves, so that an extremely low odd becomes impossible. It is said that beyond 10 to the 36 possibilities, an event is impossible to occur... unless you give the condition that possibilities can't happen twice. But this is against the laws of probabilities. It's like rigging the dice. In order to prevent a certain formation of a universe to happen again, you would need a structure of memorization of possibilities beyond time and space. This would be in no way different from the belief in God.

[@mrdarkevilme]

This argument assumes that we only have one person who bought a ticket, and the machine was only ever pulled one time, and assumes that we have a vast number of balls with a broad range of numbers on them. all of these are assumptions. one can just as easily assume that thousands and thousands of possible tickets exist, the machine was pulled a thousand thousand times, and that the balls only have the numbers 0 to 9 on them. if all your argument for god rests on is assumption then I hardly find it compelling. and seen as the gulf between deism and theism is even harder to cross the inability of these arguments to leap this first hurdle is not exactly a good sign.

[@slm0nw174]

mrdarkevilme THANK YOU

[@tomhammer802]

The thing is, it only was one try to create the universe.

[@antoinebourdon9964]

Let's put it another way. Let's say you throw a set of cards on the ground in the hope that it falls in the shape of a 6 stories high tower of cards with no card left unused or misused. We can assume that this is impossible in one try. Let's add to this hypothetical situation that you can try an infinite amount of time. Let's say that the possibility of achieving this is once every 10 to the 36 possibilities. Common sense tells you that it will never happen even if you try more than 10 to the 36 times because other simpler probabilities can happen again an infinite amount of time. You will see a simple configuration of cards many times, but never a perfect 6 stories high tower. This requires design. This is like saying about the Eiffel tower in Paris that it's probably designed, but there is an infinitesimal probability that it appeared by chance. Only a lunatic would think that.

[@jacklawrence2557]

You say here that when the Big Bang occurred it was JUST RIGHT. Any faster and life couldn't form, any slower and it would collapse back on itself. But you're forgetting one important theory... who says that the Big Bang that started our universe that we live in currently was the first ever Big Bang? Who is to say that many times before this universe there weren't other universes that didn't quite get the expansion rate correct, thus collapsing back in on itself and then exploding billions of times over until it finally got the correct combination to harbour a universe that could sustain life (us). Maybe it did take 70 trillion rolls of the dice and we just don't realise we aren't roll number one...

[@peacejohn6162]

Jack Lawrence bloody hell dude do you actually believe what you are saying??? billions of big bangs spawned from nothing.... like it's some kind of experiment by nothing

[@jacklawrence2557]

Peace John no I'm not saying I believe in anything here. I'm just saying he is trying to prove the Big Bang wrong without considering all sides of what the theory has to offer

[@vinceholsenback7939]

TheNightster07 Question then; what is between an electron and a proton inside of an atom? I think the answer is nothing.

[@teochiesa7669]

Jack Lawrence damn, I'm mind blown. Never thought of it that way

[@darbyochill]

Jack Lawrence yeah he addressed that at the end of the video saying that's basically having a faith in a higher power

[@kevinmlevites8429]

There are so many fallacies in this video that I have trouble deciding where to begin. 1) If the Universe is "fine-tuned" for life, then why is more than 99.999% of the Universe inhospitable to it? We can't exist (yet) in the middle of stars, or in the vast vacuum that fills the voids between the galaxies. 2) There is the assumption that his "70 rolls of sixes" is the only way that permits life, and we don't know this. As an example, a royal flush in cards is very lucky, but we could say that a duce, four, five, and nine of the same suit has the same odds of coming up. So, the arbitrary rules we assign to poker hands is what's important. We have no other examples of life beyond Earrh, so he makes sweeping assumptions from one example. 3) If God exists, then where does God come from? If God has always existed, then why not save a step and decide that the Universe has always existed? If the origin of God is an unanswerable question, then why not skip a step and decide that the origin of the Universe is an unanswerable question? 4) We may not understand many of the details about the origin of the Universe . . . but that doesn't mean that we should automatically invoke God just because we're unhappy that we don't know everything. To say that only God understands things that we don't know is very arrogant. 5) Even if I choose to be very pious and deeply religious . . . I would still be screwed out of Eternity when I die. There are--perhaps--over a hundred different sects in Christianity alone. While I'm sure that there are a few exceptions, each sect claims to have the correct way to worship God, while the competing sects are leading their flock astray . . . and their congregants are destined for Hell or eternal death. This means that out of the hundred or so sects, I have overwhelming odds of choosing the wrong one and going to Hell. The situation becomes much worse if I consider Judaism, Islam, and Buddhism (among many other religions). Atheism is a perfectly reasonable (and even comforting) choice under these circumstances. 6) Creationists and Biblical literalists hold up The Bible for answers about the origin of the Universe, and so forth . . . because it's true. In 2 Chronicles 4:2 we find the Biblical view is that pi (the circumference of a circle divided by it's diameter) is exactly equal to 3 . . . except we know that pi is equal to 3.1415926 . . . , and that this an irrational number. Even if The Bible only sees the first digit as being important, then at least the irrational and transcendental nature of pi might have been alluded to. The Biblical literalist will get irritated with this point, and claim that The Bible isn't a mathematical textbook, and I quite agree. However, this also means that The Bible isn't a textbook on geology, biology, anthropology, medicine, and/or physics either. 7) Biblical literalism can kill. Lightning was seen as being from God, so it was sacreligious and heretical to put lightning rods on church steeples (often the highest building in town). So--because God would never strike a church with lightning--this was the safest place to store gunpowder. The Catholic church in Brescia, Italy, exploded and killed 2,000 people when lightning hit the steeple, and the 90 metric tons of gunpowder detonated and blew up 1/6 of the town. This happened on August 18, 1769, well after Benjamin Franklin invented the lightning rod and was pressuring society to put them on church steeples (to protect the bell ringers). 8) If religion can modify Biblical literalism to accommodate lightning rods, then why not accommodate physics, Big Bang comology, evolution, and LGBTQ people? In any case, I've tried to give a civil, reasoned response to this video, and I hope people reply. Thank you for your time and consideration in reviewing this lengthy post. I wish everyone peace.

[@imded9208]

So do you think that life is a scary coincidence and that since earth had the most precise conditions for life to flourish is why we are here,and if so is math also a coincidence since it explains certainty which is highly unlikely if we just happened to come into existence, no offense to your point just curious....?

[@olofgardell3713]

Try this experiment: Roll the dice 70 times and write down the numbers you get. Now do multiple series of rolls until you get the exact same numbers in the same order as the first time. That will also take you quite some time. Question, how unlikely was it that you got those exact numbers the first time? Probability is tricky.

[@MrJixies]

The odds are exactly the same as 70 sixes... on average that is

[@lancehobbs8012]

Exactly. These people are just making up logic to retrospectivley suit their preconceived notions

[@BanjoSoop]

The problem with your statement Olof is that you didn't preset the required numbers prior to the rolling of the die. If you roll the die 70 times (or 70 dice at once - same thing) you will 100% of the time get a series of results. It is the chance of getting a specific series in a specific order. That is the point of this demonstration.

[@olofgardell3713]

@@BanjoSoop The demonstration presuppose that the universe had a specific goal, a series in a specific order if you like. That is the point with my statement.

[@iamsobeautifulomg]

@@olofgardell3713 you make a very interesting point. But doesn't it state that things had to be a certain way for us to be alive? Are you saying there may have been other ways to be alive and not just this way? Either way even if we have proof that it's a design by an intelligent being, doesn't prove it's by god. Could be anyone. Could be us.

[@slothfromthegoonies8201]

You're going to have to try harder than that buddy.

[@slothfromthegoonies8201]

That could be 99% of the population. Try to narrow it down a bit more.

[@user-dr4my8xv5g]

Sloth from The Goonies lol

[@user-dr4my8xv5g]

Dan Walter lol dude

[@user-dr4my8xv5g]

Dan Walter ur pretty Funny

[@jord19100]

Sloth from The Goonies nice man hope you're proud

[@suleiman1653]

I don’t even know what he said in the video I just came for the comments section

[@hanifazhari4307]

Man we are same

[@hoyuwae28]

Me too

[@leonardofetahu6363]

Same here

[@juhasz-ungerkristof9155]

✌️

[@dustymaxwell8305]

Suleiman Same

[@stevenhahn2190]

He needs a better argument, this one doesn't hold up. Two reasons, for one, even with his argument there's still just as much evidence for God doing it as there is for Yahweh, Jehovah, Satan creating the universe, some alien, nothing explains specifically who did it, and secondly we really have no clue what the odds of this universe being here are, we aren't advanced enough as a civilization to claim we know the odds.

[@ys92legand24]

He said an 'intelligent being' not god whether or not you believe in god is your choice

[@youtubeorange2992]

Lol

[@sanssun5050]

@@ys92legand24 Check the title.

[@jasonspades5628]

@@ys92legand24 It doesn't matter. It still applies. This is actually called the gamblers fallacy. Just because something is possible doesn't mean it will happen.

[@04kilik40]

God, Yahweh and Jehovah are the same Being. God simply being the English title of a Higher-Being. Jehovah being an early English translation of the name inwhich the Judeo-Christian God introduces Himself to Moses. And Yahweh being a much later English translation of that same name.

[@togoth1]

This essentially comes down to a common misunderstanding of probability ... what these people forget is that, whist there is a 1 in a zillion chance of getting x 6s in a row, there is the same chance for literally every conceivable specific combination of rolls. Kind of removes the mystery if you ask me.

[@bondojoe8161]

The difference is organization, and continuation. The laws of physics says that the state of matter is gradual degradation. Things SHOULD have become more DISORGANIZED since the big bang, not MORE organized. Chaos so says science.

[@eliwalker6245]

John 7:7 King James Version 7 The world cannot hate you; but me it hateth, because I testify of it, that the works thereof are evil. Hebrews 11:6 King James Version 6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him. John 1 King James Version 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. God loves you so much that He sent His only begotten Son to die on the cross to pay for your sins. If you believe and put your trust in Jesus Christ, that He died on the cross to pay your sin debt and that He rose again on the third day, you will be saved. once you are saved, you will not die in your sins and be damned to hell for eternity. God will remove your sins and your soul will be washed clean with the blood that Jesus Christ shed for us on the cross. your own good works will not get you into heaven. Jesus Christ did all of the work for you, all you have to do is believe and put your trust in Him and He will save you. Ephesians 1:13 King James Version 13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,. Jesus Christ is coming back very soon and we all have to be ready. I pray in Jesus Christ's mighty name that you be saved. God bless :)

[@Maan514]

@@eliwalker6245”hateth”?? If the bible has already been altered and translated so much why is it still in old English 🙄. May as well change it again to modernised English

[@alainadavis9596]

@@Maan514 There is a modern translation actually. They prefer KJV, NKJV would suit you better.

[@alabaz2302]

@@bondojoe8161 this was what I was thinking, I get where the first commenter is coming from however that "roll of dice" has continuously for billions of years rolled the right side up!

[@scottk1525]

If I spill a jar of marbles on the ground, the odds that the marbles spill out *exactly* as they do are probably 1 billion to 1. Therefore, god spilled the marbles.

[@Jumbuck1151]

But if every marble had a dot on it, you would never be able to spill the jar of marbles and have every dot pointing upwards and lining up in a straight line. You could spill a jar of marbles trillions of times and get different results, and everyone of those results have the same probability of occurring, but only one probability exists where they are all perfectly lined up and pointing upwards. Is one marble off by a millimeter? Doesn't count. Is one of the marbles pointing to a difference of one degree? Doesn't count.

[@scottk1525]

Solidatermx - Oh so we're the "all dots perfectly up" universe are we? Of course we would think that. The point you're missing is this: there are likely billions of ways that the universe *could* have come about, each of which would have given rise to different conditions, different chemicals, different elements, different everything. No doubt life would be impossible in many of these universes. But it's also extremely likely that different *kinds* of life could have arisen in many (if not all) of these possible universes. And those kinds of life are no more "perfectly aligned and finely tuned" than ours. They're just the only kind of life that can arise in the conditions of their universes, just like we're the only kind of life that can arise in ours. So yes, our DNA-based, oxygen breathing, temperature sensitive, highly lubricated kind of life would probably be an impossible results of the majority of the millions of ways the universe could have come about, but a different kind of life would do just fine. And that different kind of life would probably spend the first few thousand years of their existence rejoicing in how "finely tuned" their universe is.Yeah, finely tuned for *their* kind of life. Not ours. In other words, no matter how the marbles fall, a religious marble will observe the pattern it's in and say "wow, this pattern is SO special, all the marbles fell in a finely tuned way so that this exact pattern happened. It's a miracle!" While a scientific marble will say "Yeah, well, as much as you like this particular pattern, there are literally billions of other patterns that could have occurred if the marbles had fallen differently."

[@chickenwalker6458]

+Solidatermx What if your marbles had a thousand dots on it, each dot corresponding to a number. No matter what the outcome is of you rolling those marbles, it had a very small chance of happening. The problem with this man's argument is that, even though rolling 70 sixes in a row has a probability of 1 in 10^55, every other possible outcome has a probability of 1 in 10^55. I f you rolled a completely random number every time, 70 times, that order would still only have a probability of 10^55. If he predicted that he would roll 70 sixes, and then rolled seventy sixes, that would be amazing, but it would only be amazing because we have something to compare it to. We have nothing to compare our current universe to, because this is the only universe we know.

[@ALJR223]

Scott K your opinion doesn't matter because you're just a collective of neurological activity which is based on the matter that creates it which is governed by the fixed laws of the universe. my opinion also doesn't matter. you have no right to be upset about anyone having a different opinion than you, and I have no right to be upset about anyone have been different opinion than me just plain out but our brain tell this to... and because of that we don't really have any free will... just biological robots responding to stimuli. and your long, it was a waste of time because if there's nothing neyond this reality none of this matters at all.... all the good or bad you wont matter. so since you don't believe in God or anything else do yourself a favor and stop wasting time because this is all the life you have and as I said none of our opinions matter anyways because we don't really control what we think.

[@scottk1525]

DesertMarine - "your opinion doesn't matter because you're just a collective of neurological activity which is based on the matter that creates it which is governed by the fixed laws of the universe" It's really sad that that you think the absence of a divine being completely strips humanity's goals and priorities of their importance. Are you saying that the alleviation of suffering, the fostering of well-being and happiness, and the prospering of humanity are meaningless and arbitrary if such things don't align with the will of a divine being? Are you saying that in a godless world, we might as well let children die of hunger or at the hands of ethnic cleansers? Apparently, something only "matters" to you if an all-powerful dictator tells you it should. At which point it doesn't *actually* matter to you; you're just following instructions and/or hoping to reap reward/avoid punishments. If god told you that eating crackers and wine mattered, you'd do it religiously... oh wait... "you have no right to be upset about anyone having a different opinion than you" Who's upset? I'm just over here making reasonable arguments. Unlike most religious folks, I don't get spooled up and defensive when someone disagrees with me. I'll make an earnest attempt to try and convince them of my reasoning, but that doesn't mean I'm taking the disagreement personally. It's not like I'm going to embark on a crusade or anything. "because of that we don't really have any free will... just biological robots responding to stimuli" Yeah maybe. But since when does something being depressing or inconvenient make it untrue? Cancer is really depressing and inconvenient, but that doesn't make it fictional.

[@tf9956]

So basically, just because something is improbable means that an impossible answer is more viable.

[@tf9956]

Jon Do Well, at least the Abrahamic, Nordic, Egyptian, Hindu, or any personal God. A God that's only defined as "the entity that created the universe" while still far-fetched has at least have a chance.

[@tomhammer802]

No, it means that because something is basically impossible means that the if there's one other possible cause, then it must be the correct answer, logically.

[@tomhammer802]

Why is it farfetched? It's the one single thing that's not farfetched at all.

[@BRNRDNCK]

How is God impossible?

[@tf9956]

tom jarle Hammer If it were some test sure. But life isn't a test. There could be no answer at all.

[@noahbodycares3005]

How unlikely does an event have to be before you can round down to “it’s impossible”? One specific sperm fertilizing an egg on a specific day and combining dna in exactly the right way to create me is statistically unlikely, but it happened. Also, how do you make the leap from x is impossible to x is caused by a god? What if the unlikely event is caused by something else we don’t know about or simply occurs without any intent or forethought.

[@user-jg8do2kz6n]

Try rolling 10 dices and getting 6 on every on them. You'll learn what's impossible.

[@existence.5806]

@@user-jg8do2kz6n lol

[@daveboo7002]

@@user-jg8do2kz6n I prayed for all sixes and only got two!

[@thederpyunicorn306]

You make the leap from X is impossible to X is caused by God because in order for space, time, and materials to exist there must be something spaceless, timeless, and immaterial needed to create them. It's agreed upon in the scientific community that the universe had a beginning, and there's no evidence to suggest that the "big bang" was caused by "the universe." Something intelligent had to have started it in the first place. Christians believe that intelligent thing to be God.

[@WolfgangGroiss]

@@user-jg8do2kz6n Try rolling 10 dice and write down the numbers you got. Hitting that exact combination with 10 rolls is exactly as likely as rolling 10 6s, yet you magically just got it!

[@sgringo]

I once dropped a nickel. It rolled across the floor, bounced off the wall, rolled back a few inches, and stopped... remaining balanced on its edge without falling over. A guy named Michael Dick lost track of his daughter; he hadn't seen her in 10 years. He went to the town where he thought she lived to search for her. After being unable to find her, he took a photo of himself and asked local papers to publish it, along with his story. His daughter did see the picture... and noticed that SHE WAS IN THE PHOTO behind him. She didn't even live in the town anymore; she was visiting that day and just happened to be walking by. The odds of any of us having been born is 1 in 400 trillion. Very improbable things happen. Despite this being a well-produced, compelling video, at the end of the day, it proves nothing; it's still just an argument from incredulity. Even if this convinces you, it argues only for an intelligent designer, not the God of Abraham or any deity whatsoever.

[@Daewonnni]

I think he is trying to say the odds of having no creator isn’t much better than if there is.

[@makefor3048]

@@No_bread-and-circuses that's wrong totally, limiting god to certain names and persons is also wrong , Krishna has been described in a much much much better way of what god needs to be compared to god of abraham, still however limiting god to Krishna or anything else is wrong, god is beyond all of this

[@makefor3048]

@@No_bread-and-circuses that's according to your perspective that humans had original sin, which does not exist because it denies evolution

[@lancehobbs8012]

I once personally flipped an Australian 50 cent coin over a bet to see who would get master bedroom in a unit me and a mate rented, about 20 years ago ,and it landed perfectly on its edge. I said take it and to this day have never once bet again.

[@BigBoy-ew1sx]

Hell yeah, proof that God is a faggot and wants to suck us all off!

[@safirouhi1651]

Ok so basically god exists because you can't accept the arbitrarity of your own existence?

[@wtfuredead]

Or maybe everything surrounding us is so amazing and spectacular that it would mean sheer ignorance to believe we are the product of "chance"

[@jmc3461]

wtfuredead are you kidding or?

[@Microbex]

wtfuredead m - ya? Like the amazeball-spectacular mosquito, killing most people on earth every year, left and right, christians, muslims and everyone else. Or what about poop? If it is a creation of god, as what it is since your god created everything on earth even your intestines, why the fuk did he not make it rainbow coloured, strawberry flavored, and non lethal to eat? Naah, keep you blue eyed world creation vision for yourself..

[@wtfuredead]

Mikkel Christensen Those are some great questions! First of all, let's talk about relativism(in a more ordinary way). Think about a world where everything is rainbow-like pleasant. Pretty boring, ah? We need that delta of good and bad things in our lives. Therefore it makes sense for the "Engineer" of this Universe to allow for poop to exist in such an unpleasant state. Also, this setup with such various experiences allow our consciousness to learn and grow. I can see where your rejection comes from, and is perfectly understandable. You expect for this God to give milk and honey to everyone in His creation. And it doesn't. And that makes people really pissed off! So there must not be any God because things are so bad around us!(of course, that is pretty hypocritical coming from me, as i had a fairly easy life so far) About that mosquito tho... i really don't know what to say. I might come up with a bogus explanation, but i expect for you to understand the other things, as usually atheist have a little more brains than your average religious person(i am also not agreeing with any religion, but i see they have at least some purposes)

[@eliasalcantara9537]

Safi Rouhi Yeah mind blowing

[@tripptank]

If the universe were different, life would be different, not nonexistent.

[@aname5053]

If the universe were different or adjusted to the smallest degree life would not exist. The laws that we know about which shape everything are calibrated and if offset would result in nonexistence.

[@shnbwmn]

Austin Hill Life has evolved to survive and adapt. What you see is an imperfect but perfectly functional result of constant tweaking and adjusting. No masterpiece simply is.

[@aname5053]

Lolololol James... Now you're not talking science, you're talking about philosophy my friend. But I'll bite... You are assuming the laws are not "calibrated". You don't know that, they could be exactly what science says they are. This is a pointless conversation because math vs poetry.

[@nikitalelyukh6980]

Gnomey T.O what if God made it that way. you have no proof there were more than one bang. I have no scientific proof of God. We are in the same boat believeing in something we can't prove.

[@DaneArcher]

Not really the same boat. First though, let me state that the "one in six to the 70th power" number, I can assure you, is fabricated. There is no way anyone who hasn't observed several big bangs could possibly comprehend everything going on enough so that they could hope to put odds on its occurring a certain way, or that they could conclusively state that only one set of die rolls equals life: It's like watching one person cross the street, then concluding that if anyone had tried to cross it in any other way, no matter how slight the change, that they'd be killed by a moving bus. Of course the chances of that one fellow crossing the way he did was was 1:6^70, and since it happened right the first time, god helped him cross the street. One who believes in god has subscribed to a single possibility without proof. The other responses I see here are from those who are admitting there are things we don't know. There's no faith in that except for acknowledged and researched proof. Could this proof be wrong? Yes. And science allows for that. That is why I state that it's "not the same boat." Honestly science shouldn't care about proving god doesn't exist any more than it needs to prove that unicorns don't exist.

[@Weeee439]

A better analogy for the existence of our universe would be shuffling a deck of cards. Each time you shuffle a deck of cards, it is extremely unlikely that that exact combination has ever been seen before or will ever be seen again. The number of possible combinations is 52 factorial, or over 80,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000. So the chance of you getting that order of cards from a shuffle is 1 in 8*10^67. But just because that exact combination was very unlikely doesn’t mean that the cards were placed in that order intentionally. Yes, the chance of you rolling a six 70 times in a row with a dice is very unlikely, but so is any other set of numbers you get from rolling dice 70 times in a row. Roll dice 70 times in a row yourself, it doesn’t matter what numbers you get be it 5,6,4,3,6,1,2,4,3…. It’s still a one in 10^55 chance of getting that exact combination. And you got that combination, even though it was so unlikely. This video is intentionally deceptive, and the argument itself makes no sense if you know anything about probability.

[@eliwalker6245]

Jesus Christ is the only way to heaven. Jesus Christ Loves you so much. Hell is real. You can have eternal life through The Lord Jesus Christ, please read the verses below. God Bless:). 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 King James Version 15 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; 2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. 3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: Ephesians 1:13 King James Version 13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, God Bless:) It's eternity, you want to spend it in heaven not hell. Please read the book of John, and ask God for understanding and He will show you. Please look into it. The evidence is all there. Also look up Lee Strobel " Case for Christ" God Bless:)

[@abiwalala]

The argument is that there was a specific order of cards being shuffled that required existence of life. And it occurred. Not that a random shuffle was required.

[@amalahmad8354]

@@abiwalala exactly..! The thing is they explain the origin of life on the planet using the same logic..like the requirements to create a cell or a universe are just some random long irrelevant numbers.

[@abiwalala]

@@amalahmad8354 Exactly man. Subhanallah! The arrogant kaffirs the quran speaks about are finally showing themselves.

[@Daewonnni]

I think the point being made is that the random long incoherent chaotic string of numbers produces nothing. There is no point to consider a potential designer willing order.

[@dr6415]

Theist: Dear God, I am not able to convince people with a bible. What should I do? God: Why don't you try with a dice?

[@dr6415]

@@hyperneutronstar428 Dude, I am NOT a theist. 🤦😂 Which anti-sarcasm pill have you taken?

[@ukleth]

​@@dr6415no one can prove god exist Neither any one can prove god does not exist It is a 50/50 situation And every one hope he is in the right side

[@dr6415]

@@ukleth If no one can prove, why have false hope? Waiting until it is proven would be a rational approach rather than living in a lala land.

[@ukleth]

@@dr6415 both side will live with hope. There are hope that god exist As There are hope that god doesnt exist No one can prove his situation 100% because there are not proof and will never be. It is still a coin flip 50/50

[@dr6415]

@@ukleth Nobody can prove that something does not exist. Can somebody prove that dragons do not exist? Be careful when you step out of your house next time.

[@smokinghorsey9]

So the universe is too complex to just exist by "chance" therefore you are getting around that problem by claiming that the basis of reality is an even more complex intelligent mind that can create and destroy things? So how can that just exist? This assumption does not solve the problem. It doesn't even come close to solving the problem. It just leaves you with the same problem only it's now even more difficult to explain. That's why you don't attempt to explain it. It is God. God is God. No one can explain God. Ah, how convenient.

[@samadams1408]

It's called an "argument from ignorance" or "the god of the gaps" - basically, "We don't know. Therefore God" A few centuries ago you'd have heard "We don't know where lightning comes from. Therefore Thor"

[@MrJimbissle]

Arguement from ignorance AND You are claiming that this universe is too complex to exist by chance, therefore it must have been built by 'God', or whatever. That creator must be even more complex. It must have come from somewhere too. All you accomplish with that idea is to remove yourself 1 step from the original question, and made it even more complex and, by your logic, less possible'. Believe whatever you like, but please, at least try to think. ]

[@edwinspellcaster6394]

The probability of "chance creation" is convergent to zero! The only "ignorance" is the refusal of numbers!

[@samadams1408]

+Edwin Spellcaster - doesn't work that way. The "probability argument" in the vid is based on a lack of understanding of the difference between "a priori" probabilities and "a posteriori" probabilities. It's the sort of thing I'd expect any undergraduate math student to pick up on immediately - to be honest, I'm amazed (amused actually) that people still take this one seriously. In any case, this article by John Allen Paulos (a math prof at Temple University) explains what's wrong with the math in layman's terms abcnews.go.com/Technology/story?id=2384584

[@edwinspellcaster6394]

Argument from Authority? the prof also starts his "argument" with a straw man; claiming that we are denying Independence (ridiculous) Third he later cites the very phenomenon we are talking about: observation of extremely low probabilities in countless occurrences ! He disproved nothing

[@dansimpson7114]

What if you roll 6 three times in a row? Then it proves Satan.

[@gettingdialectic9519]

LOL. Funny. But he exists too.

[@nam3ey]

@@gettingdialectic9519 maybe

[@lizannoni5548]

Seriously if There’s Satan then you must believe in God ..

[@dansimpson7114]

@@lizannoni5548 what the hell are you on about?

[@paulanthony8559]

Proof of Satan is the amount of disbelief in God.

[@lancehobbs8012]

The fundamental flaw in these calculations ( that the makers of this video are well aware of) is that we are dealing with either infinite dice or an incomprehensible large number of dice .

[@coin5207]

If they are aware of this why would they have made this video

[@amircoolboy100]

@@coin5207 because two reasons: 1. They already hear the explanation because they have experience with people that have the opposite claim. 2. Ofc 💵💸

[@MarkusOttosson]

@@coin5207 1. Because they try to prove something that cannot be proven. 2. Because they are probably religious people of some sort.

[@user-tg3tj2nq6v]

There is no flaw. It depends how you are looking at the problem. It simply shows the basic truth that the odds for this universe to exists are very low.

[@sethkrier2387]

Doesn't the point you've just proven make the fact of an existence like this that much more improbable by chance? If there are an infinite or incomprehensible number of dice, then we simply shouldn't exist, right? But we do, and all of the rules and laws in the universe with us (which each have their own set of incomprehensible dice)

[@YellowJacket1981]

I love this analogy, well done! In one of my undergrad engineering courses at Georgia Tech, the professor told us that at a point, when odds are sufficiently low, it is impossible. We like to say, “no, it could happen” but we fail to understand the enormity of the odds.

[@chavy_chavs]

What about all of the planets and galaxies without life? Aren't those the other dice rolls that weren't sixes?

[@15926anthony]

There are no other planets and life and galaxies..just a the earth, moon sun , and stars...other planets and galaxies are deception from the media and false teachings we all grew up with. I know its hard to believe but its true

[@zPrideful]

lmfao vincent grab a telescope and then say this again andyou'll see why your a fucking idiot.

[@vincentandrews6230]

SlowReaction have you been up there? No you haven't...it's a star your seeing my friend

[@zPrideful]

lmfao are you telling me telescopes lie to you, come on quit living in denial and a fantasy world and grow up.

[@vincentandrews6230]

So show me a picture then? And please not the photoshopped ones google provides. I'm not living in a fantasy world

[@loveworks8102]

When he was going on with the Trillions I thought he was talking about the USA debt...

[@ariyaemmet3852]

lmao

[@skyward_07]

1 in 216

[@yugantbeniwal]

Clever

[@accountlol7409]

Double oof

[@thomastrijin568]

Aaahhh when then comments are better than the video

[@adamlindfors5082]

Its pretty selfish to think that the universe has adapted itself to us and not that life has adapted itself to the universe

[@heyved11]

My thoughts Exactly !!

[@tenshiginakuch2388]

Its pretty cynical to think that life is merely the biproduct of a Cosmic accident, instead of having meaning and Purpose.

[@adamlindfors5082]

@@tenshiginakuch2388 I wouldnt call it a "cosmical accident". I dont think life has any purpose but i think we should still enjoy it

[@mecowhy2201]

exactly

[@eliwalker6245]

Jesus Christ is the only way to heaven. Jesus Christ Loves you so much. Hell is real. You can have eternal life through The Lord Jesus Christ, please read the verses below. God Bless:). 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 King James Version 15 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; 2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. 3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: Ephesians 1:13 King James Version 13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, God Bless:)

[@shelbyvillerules9962]

2:32 "It hit 70 rolls of the number 6 in a row, first time" How do you know it was the first time?

[@rebelcrusader9973]

Because the video uses the falacy that you already have to believe you were destined to exist the first place. Only a believer will think that this video makes any sense, anyone with logical reasoning will say otherwise.

[@atlaskat7980]

Haha. Because the chances are slim it must mean my own belief in a sky-daddy creating everything must be true.

[@MrAustinValentine]

well i imagine it doesn't mean it's not true either. the point is that no one should be ridiculed for placing a bet on something that no one has a concrete provable answer to.

[@faustus2058]

Lack of evidence against god does not indicate his existence. The burden of proof lies on the person taking the affirmative position. Even if this video accurately described the probability of the universe, it is still not conclusive evidence for the existence of a god. The logical default position is atheism, and the only reason it isn't is because religion has existed longer than the scientific method.

[@geovaporizer1618]

He knows that lack of evidence against god does not indicate his existence. He cleary states near the end of the video that his purposes were only to prove that no one should be ridiculed for neither believing in god nor being an atheist, as there is no indefinite evidence for both of them.

[@faustus2058]

No way. His stance is CLEARLY that the odds are too high for the universe to have been created without god. He sates this several times throughout the video. As proof, I submit to you the fact that at 3:25 he claims that someone "loaded the dice." Furthermore, being an atheist does not require evidence because it is the negative position, therefore stating that atheism has equally as much evidence as theism is a nonsensical statement that fundamentally makes no sense.

[@geovaporizer1618]

Yeah, there are a lot of flaws in the video, and some things he says contradict what he previously says... plus comparing the probability of a continious dice roll to the probability that the universe was created by chance is stupid altogether.

[@zoddmac8641]

Three times in a row you go to jail.

[@Ty-or5gi]

*Hell*

[@sugarrollz3524]

@@Ty-or5gi *jail

[@Ty-or5gi]

animation life 666 Satans number

[@sugarrollz3524]

@@Ty-or5gi oh but what dose 666 have to do with hell it only has something to do with satan

[@9007dodo]

The kingdom of GOD is near, we need to repent and believe in Jesus Christ, so that our sins can be forgiven, and we can have eternal life. If we don't believe in Jesus, we will die in our own sins. Lying, Stealing, murders, evil heart, revellings, hatred, emulations, arrogant, strife, Envyings, commit adultery, seditions, bad words, porn, didn't honour father and mother, worship idol, homosexual, fortune teller, black magic, blasphemed GOD, claiming self to be GOD, calling a man as GOD, worship things made of gold, silver, wood, stone or other materials, worship animal as GOD, against GOD, did not want to repent and believe in JESUS, take the name of GOD/JESUS in vain and other evils things, these all are sins. If we did 1 of these things before, it makes us sinner. If we continue to do these things or sinning, we will die in our own sins.We need to repent through Jesus, to make our relationship with GOD good again, because There will be a judgement day 1 day,The people who believe in Jesus Christ and follow his commands will enter the kingdom of GOD, but the people who don't believe in Jesus and done evil/bad things/sinners will enter Hell. Only Jesus can give you joy, real peace, only Jesus can forgive your sins, only Jesus can lead you to be a righteous man. No other name except JESUS can save your soul and lead you to heaven. This is about our eternal life and eternal death, so believe in Jesus and repent(Confess to GOD that we're sinner, stop sinning and follow Jesus teaching), to save our own soul and life. Repent, and be baptized every one of us in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and we shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.The Holy Spirit/Ghost will guide us on how to become a righteous man, live and work according to GOD's will. Lord Jesus said: luke6: 37 Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven: You can read BIBLE online by searching it on google, you can start read from the book of JOHN. You can learn Jesus teaching from there. If you have any stress, problem in your life, you can pray to Jesus and ask for his help, Jesus will listen to your prayer. GOD is our Father, He is the ONE who made us and everything in this world. It's time for us to return to Him and acknowledge Him as our Father through Jesus Christ. Wake up people, return to your only ONE Almighty GOD and Father.

[@sterlingdullaghan7373]

If it is possible.... It can and will happen. Just because it will take an eternity to roll those dice, doesn't mean that you won't ever get 70 6s in a row. Imagine this... You wouldn't be here unless the universe was perfect like it is. There was literally eternity for those dice to roll and roll and roll until those 70 6s finally came into play. It's not like "Well the odds are low and it will take more than 10 minutes to get 70 6s in a row so that means its impossible". This isn't logic, this is just a feeling, no proof.

[@bondojoe8161]

And that eternity was created by? Science doesn't know. And we're talking about more than a pair of dice. We're talking about Everything...not Trillions of things, but a much larger number, all happening at the right time. And it has CONTINUED to happen for 14 billion years, with no errors. Do you believe it was just a lucky accident??? CAN trillions of dice turn up sixes at the same time..even if you have forever? Can they continue doing it for billions of years? iS that possible?

[@dalidirani2740]

@@bondojoe8161 what you're suggesting is a paradox. Because if nothing can be created from nothing, which seems like what you are suggesting, then god can not have come from nothing can it? To assert that there is a god simply because we can't understand what's around us is astonishing. Just because science doesn't know why something happens doesn't mean that there is no logical explanation that has not been discovered yet. Science is a field that is always in the present, we are always learning more about the universe, and many things we are learning today would have been chalked up to divine intervention just a few centuries ago.

[@bondojoe8161]

@@dalidirani2740 GOD has always existed. We know that the Universe was created. Scientists agree on that point. 14 billion years ago. But just SUPPOSE that the universe was always here or created by something else. Surely you don't think it was a giant, CONTINUOUS accident, do you? NOTHING that exists on earth exists without intelligence. Name ONE THING that is organized and created itself. Did your TV build itself? Your car, your house? Did any of the parts in those things invent themselves, or happen by accident? Organization REQUIRES intelligent direction. Anyone should be able to grasp that.

[@dalidirani2740]

@@bondojoe8161 that is a paradox. Because then who created god. And then who created the god the created god. That doesn’t make any sense.

[@dalidirani2740]

@Erik Hampshire I love that you guys speak of it as if it is fact, is it possible, yes, is there reason to believe it’s complete and utter bullshit, yes. Have a good life tho

[@timanderson3312]

“imagine a puddle waking up one morning and thinking, 'This is an interesting world I find myself in - an interesting hole I find myself in - fits me rather neatly, doesn't it? In fact it fits me staggeringly well, must have been made to have me in it!" - Douglas Adams

[@samadams1408]

The entire premise of this vid is based on a complete misunderstanding of basic probability. There is a difference between "a priori" probabilities (which is what he's referring to) and "a posteriori" probabilities which is what he should be talking about.

[@BoySAKU77]

and the probability of you shutting the fuck up

[@hairyairey]

Probability is still probability - you won't find those two supposed differences on any undergraduate degree course in Mathematics.

[@samadams1408]

+John Airey - really? It's the sort of thing that I'd expect any math major to know.

[@hairyairey]

Ah - so you are an American and don't have a maths degree? These differences in probability only exist in your head. You don't like the inevitable result so you invent a problem with the Maths.

[@hairyairey]

"a posteriori" refers to the distribution of known results. They aren't two different parts of probability. This videois about the likelihood of the universe happening by chance, and this is patently unlikely.

[@ztlabraptor211]

"The odds are low so that means god!" The fact that these people remain so smug with such pathetic fallacies is just aggravating.

[@mohannadbakain9808]

ztlabraptor211 odds rule everything around us, and 1 x 10 to the 55 is not pathetic. It is unbelievably definite. Looks like somebody got an F in math class.

[@ztlabraptor211]

mohannad bakain you're assuming our comprehension of math can be used to completely understand the universe and it's origins. This is very foolish and narcissistic. We're animals, intelligent animals, but still animals and there are things we don't know and things we'll never know. The fact that you're using math, a human construct, to explain the unknowable natural origins of the universe (especially considering we have proof of the age of the universe and evolution that contradict your mathematics) is simply bigoted. As well, since you brought it up, what are the odds that a giant omnipotent eternal creator that there's no evidence for and nobody has ever seen or heard is real? What are the odds a woman was made from a mans rib? What are the odds you're religion is the correct one out of the 5000 that exist? Grow up kid.

[@HiEv001]

+mohannad bakain - "1 x 10 to the 55 is not pathetic. It is unbelievably definite. Looks like somebody got an F in math class." I'm guessing that somebody would be you, then, if you think that somehow justifies a belief in God. Tell you what, thoroughly shuffle a standard deck of 52 cards. Now, what are the odds of that particular deck happening? Is it higher or lower than the one in 10^55 odds you mentioned above? I'll give you a moment. No cheating... OK, the answer is the odds of that particular deck happening is approximately one in 8x10^67. In other words, it's a number with a dozen more decimal places than the one you're so fond of mentioning. In fact, if you actually did shuffle a deck, the odds are that that's the first time a deck has ever been shuffled in that particular order in all of history. That's just how improbable that deck is. Really! So, is that deck you shuffled a miracle of God? Or is it simply the product of random chance? This is why long odds do not equal God, and why you shouldn't be accusing others of failing math.

[@monkeybrain1968]

ztlabraptor211 Mr. Chance is very powerful. Everything is just randomness and natural processes.

[@mohannadbakain9808]

HiEv the resulting deck would be chance. But try choosing a specific combination. On deck of the 8 x 10^67 decks. Would it show up? No. That is the point. Chance doesn't work on that big of a number, that big of a scale. Still an F I presume.

[@bogdanpatru2742]

I know I'm late to the party, but: 1. The universe hit 70 rolls of the number 6 in a row first time - This analogy doesn't work for 2 reasons. First, you can calculate mathematically the chance to hit 70 consecutive 6's on your dice in a row. You just did. But you can't mathematically calculate how likely it is for a universe to be created. Sure, you can create an analogy, like you just did, but it doesn't hold. You have no data to use, like you have in the case of dice. Here, you have a dice with 6 faces, that's the entire system. It's pretty easy to calculate the mathematical odds of hitting a certain number in a row. But you can't calculate the probability for a universe capable of sustaining life forming. Because you don't have multiple universes to compare it to, you don't have the bigger picture with set limits, like in the case of the dice. The second problem is how were you able to figure out that the universe hit that unlikely 6 70 times in a row FIRST TIME? How did you excluded the possibility of the universe being born and being destroyed billions and billions of times (or trillions and trillions and trillions and trillions) before finally taking a form which allowed the emergence of life? Oh right, you can't, you just excluded it by omission. The analogy would've worked if we also could've witnessed the birth, life, and death of multiple universes and calculate the chances for them to breed life, based on how many lifeless and how many life-filled universe we observed. But we don't have that, so the analogy is flawed. 2. Unlikeliness isn't the same with impossibility - No matter how unlikely a phenomenon is, you can't say it's impossible unless you've already demonstrated that it is impossible. Here, let me explain: Highly unlikely - Extremely low chances to occur, but can occur since there are no laws of the universe preventing it from occurring. Impossible - Cannot occur, since we have demonstrated that the laws of the universe prevent it from occurring (like a square circle) You confuse these 2 things throughout your video, including at 2:57 "Let's imagine I rolled the dice 70 times, each time hitting a 6, first try, no waiting for trillions and trillions of years. Beginners luck? Hardly" Why hardly? It's certainly not impossible. So, how do you exclude the possibility of the "beginner's luck". You can't. Then you continue "You would assume I rigged the dice" Right, people tend to do that when they see an event as unlikely as rolling 6 70 times in a row. That' doesn't mean they're correct. Because maybe you didn't rig the dice. Maybe it was beginner's luck. Then, you go even further, completely eliminating the chance altogether at 3:29 saying "The fact that we're here shows that somebody 'rigged the dice'". Wrong, it can also show the occurrence of a lucky chance. Which you dismissed without any reasonable explanation. But everything culminates at 3:45 when you claim that there's no scientific evidence for multiverse, which would make believing in the multiverse theory unreasonable. Which is rich coming from someone occupying the theist's position. But then you say "If you believe that, you're just as guilty as being in a faith-based position as someone who believes God did it", which, I don't know how to put it, dismantles your theist position. And then you continue with "But believing in God isn't a delusion, it's a perfectly reasonable conclusion" which is not only unsupported given your failure to understand concepts like chance, probability, and impossibility, but it's also contradictory with what you claimed literally 3 second previously. I appreciate the effort almost as much as I appreciate the failure.

[@sundarchip]

Who said that the only alternative to the universe being created by a God is a universe that came about by chance? The correct answer is, "We don't know". Comparing the universe with a die is also illogical because we know exactly what all the possible outcomes of a die roll are and how probable each outcome is. However, we do not even know in what possible ways a universe can come into existence (for example, maybe just came about by chance, maybe it has always existed, maybe it was created by someone or something, maybe our universe is just one of many) and how likely each outcome is.

[@manuellopez1956]

Apparently there is this almighty "creator" who can summon up an entire Universe but is unable to communicate with humans, at all.

[@twelve535]

He...did...he...does...you ok bro?

[@philipolivierjean2929]

what do you mean by «he does»?

[@aceofspades25]

lol... still waiting

[@philipolivierjean2929]

Did you ever see or speak... or have any contact with your god?

[@twelve535]

We did, but then we killed Him. Read some history bro...

[@andreas1267]

Our brains aren't smart enough to figure out how the universe got created so why don't we all go and eat some pizza?

[@Historian474]

Can we have pineapple on it?

[@andreas1267]

@@Historian474 NO

[@hiltonchapman4844]

@@andreas1267 Re your response to @Historian474: "NO!" You're mean, y'know that? 😣 Anyway, I prefer watermelon. 😁😀😁😀 HC-JAIPUR

[@andreas1267]

@@hiltonchapman4844 I was just joking:)

[@double_o7d1g5]

Papa John's. Nuff said

[@Wanted797]

This all hinges on his assumption this universe is the “first time” We have no way of knowing if we are the 1st or last attempt. We’re only going to know about the the time when it actually worked.

[@pabstep2611]

And we don't know if another universe with a different set of constants might also produce life. Theists keep repeating that the our constants are so "finely tuned" that life wouldn't be possible any other way. Well, we simply don't know that.

[@imneverwrongsometimestruthlies]

Isn't it ponder-worthy to think that if one has a way with words one can convince anyone anything?

[@ronalddavidleindecker3358]

Yeah...it's called a lying liberal politician.

[@frosticoof2892]

Yeah, just like creationists twisting the words of a document (the bible) made thousands of years ago to explain how the world came to be. This instead of just accepting that we don't know yet

[@MorbiusBlueBalls]

​@@ronalddavidleindecker3358maga guy

[@rickwyant]

The odds of us being here are 100 percent. We're here. Duh!

[@mo0kthechef]

@Ton Jor yes, exactly. The odds of you flipping that coin heads are 100% if you're looking at the result after the fact. Everything is...

[@justspeed1696]

@Ton Jor thats not the case it is where you hold the coin

[@justspeed1696]

@@mo0kthechef then why i flip it it did not

[@justspeed1696]

its just a mistake

[@sentsavior4984]

🤣🤣

[@user-dh4bz7fk9z]

Excellent video depicting an example for an argument from ignorance. "I don't understand how the cosmic laws of physics worked towards allowing life to start, therefore, gawd did it"

[@grorud10]

then how do we explain where the energy from atoms comes from (reffering to the moving particals) Because after all physics tells us that nothing can be moved without an external force,but it is. ? If you actually look it up and keep Your mind open it is not that absurd. There is obviously not any proofs which is why its still is a theory, same goes With big bang. Big bang can be explained by Logic to a certain extent, but if Your read more on that as well you will find out there is alot of the theory that is blank or not fully explained because they cant explain it. My view on it is that organized religion is a misconception of god. We can not simply believe that god is a man/women/dog or creature, but I do believe that there is a god. The Source of energy, and a creator. And in that case where did the universe come from, based on Logic we simply know that there cant be anything if it is not created.

[@user-dh4bz7fk9z]

Sorry, but there is proof of where the energy from the atoms comes from; it is explained in the law of conservation of energy, where if we trace a long chain of events, the energy on earth is fueled by the nuclear reactions from the sun, derived from more nuclear reactions going back billions of years, ultimately starting from the big bang. We don’t know what was before the big bang, or what triggered it, or why it went "bang" as the evidence suggests, but that does not mean “then god did it”. You are just confirming what I stated about the argument from ignorance. Might as well say that my cat has secret superpowers and he went back in time to create everything we know and established the laws of physics; I will accept this as true until I find more tangible evidence that shows otherwise. Do you see how silly that sounds? I agree that we cannot explain everything, but saying it’s only a theory is a misunderstanding that many people fall for. A scientific theory is not a “guess”, an “idea” or a “hunch”, like is a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world that is acquired through the scientific method and repeatedly tested and confirmed, preferably using a written, pre-defined, protocol of observations and experiments. It’s okay to say “I don’t know”, and due to time constrains (billions of years), we might never find the answer; we can just study the evidence, test it, make predictable models and document it. I know that it sucks not knowing everything, but we shouldn’t make shit up just because we don’t know, especially giving credit to a myth from the Bronze Age.

[@grorud10]

Elmer Homero I fully understand that, and i dont agree With organized religion but i do fully understand why People are searching for a spiritual life and an after life. It might not be true, it might be true (eventhough its not likely). Thats why we Call it belief, isnt it. I do not see a problem With People believing in a creator, but i do have a problem With following man made rules which was made for Power and Money. I personally believe that there is a creator and that Jesus was a messanger as ive said. I know how that sounds if you base it on Logic but its simply a way to hope for something more after im and my loved once are gone. I do not hold that belief to make less of my life which some would have if you would follow some scripture like the qua ran or the bible. I did not mean to say that atoms are moved by "god" but we will see in time, i do think there is a Source for this energy however, and untill we can scienticly prove that there is no creator. You can Call me ignorant for believing that but i simply do not see anything negative about it, nor would i live my life differently then if I would not believe it.

[@user-dh4bz7fk9z]

Martin Ellingsen - I agree with your point of view on religion, but I would go a step further and say that religion is the cancer of society; fuck religion, it's about time to ditch those fairytales. It baffles me not completely knowing how everything started, and I hope that someday we can find out. In the meantime I will keep searching for the truth through scientific evidence, logic, and reason. Not stupid dice and invalid arguments appealing to myths.

[@grorud10]

Elmer Homero religion and organized religion is not the same thing. The difference lies here, either you believe in a god , a spiritual life or just something bigger for the questions we cant answer. If you follow a organized religion however you follow man made rules, a man made society, a social club if you like. The belief of a bigger power or an almighty god is not negative, it is actually physiologically proven that we as humans has the urge for some grand plan or purpose as a concept, not only in this life but whatever comes after. How organized religion has used it to gain money and power is toxic, not the belief in itself.

[@OldSchopenhauer]

How did he get this far in life without knowing that dice was plural?

[@theotterguy]

It only is in American English.

[@OldSchopenhauer]

@@theotterguy "A dice" just sounds awkward on the ear. I've never seen an instruction book or any formal writing ever use dice as a singular. Maybe the dictionary just gave up because of guys like him.

[@boxelder9167]

Die is a singularized English version from the French word “des” meaning dice but the singular version of dice is not used in the United Kingdom. The Oxford Dictionary lists both as acceptable for modern English. Dice is still the name of the game even when only one is used although they are commonly used in pairs. Regardless, he is still using an acceptable modern version for the object of interest. I still remember when “gay” meant “happy”, a “fag” was a small stick or a cigarette, and people only had one gender so I can understand your frustration.

[@OldSchopenhauer]

@@boxelder9167 I mean I'm younger than the guy saying this. It still sounds stupid.

[@KILLERGAMER-pf9fm]

@@OldSchopenhauer instead of focusing on that focus on the actual point of the video we know you are super intelligent for knowing that dice is not the singular

[@nowalls8713]

“Man created God in his own image.” Feuerbach

[@bukirispj9911]

It sucks that all the comments are cancer :(

[@SirNyanPanda]

Bukirisp j How are arguments cancerous?

[@sizor3ds]

Bukirisp j and so is this video

[@TheWelchProductions]

Shlomo Skekelberg theists Creation is a controversial subject, just like Donald Trump.

[@ivokosir9711]

This video is a cancer

[@FDGod99]

Bukirisp j you are cancer , all thiests fools are cancer

[@HiEv001]

Wow. So many misunderstandings and misuses of mathematics here, not to mention some huge unsupported assumptions and overlooked explanations. Worst of all, it's built around the egocentric idea that universes have to produce us humans. Here are my "top 10" problems with this video. 1) The odds that any universe can support the life within it is 100%. That's because the life has formed based on the laws of that universe. Calculating the odds of the universe fitting the life within it is completely backwards, because the universe comes first, and then the life within it has to be able to survive there or it wouldn't ever exist. 2) There's nothing especially "fine tuned" about the constants of the universe. If they were different then the universe would have been different, and the beings living in that universe (if there were any) could have made equally vapid remarks about how "fine tuned" that universe was for them. This is the case of the puddle remarking on how amazingly perfectly puddle shaped the hole it was in was. No, it's US who is "fine tuned" for the universe, not the other way around. 3) You seem to assume that life as we know it ("us") is the only way life could have possibly formed. This is a pretty huge assumption, and could not possibly be supported by evidence without testing every single other possible range of physical constants and determining if self-reproducing agents could form in those universes. In other words, your argument is partially based on an utter failure of your imagination. 4) Any time you shuffle the cards in a standard deck of cards, the odds that you would get that particular deck is 8 x 10^67. So every time you shuffle a deck of cards you do something far more improbable than rolling 6 seventy times in a row. But do you see the difference? The deck had to come out SOME way, and while all ways were equally improbable, one of those ways had to result. 5) As things are, the vast majority of the universe is uninhabitable. Saying the universe was "fine tuned" for us ignores that fact that there's almost nowhere in the universe we can survive. Even on the thin skin of our own planet, there are many places that are quite difficult to survive in. No, this universe is not at all "fine tuned" to our existence. 6) Keep in mind that the universe is 13.77 billion years old, and life on Earth has only existed for about 4 billion years. So, not only is the universe mostly uninhabitable, but as far as we know, for most of the universe's history it has had no life in it. Again, how is this "fine tuned" for life? 7) You say that the universe hit seventy rolls of the number 6 "first time". How do you know that this is the first and only universe? Some models suggest that this may be just one universe of countless universes. You even admit this possibility yourself. So if there's a nearly infinite number of universes, the odds that some would support life becomes, not just probable, but inevitable. You point out we don't have evidence for this, and you're right, but we don't have any evidence for your deity either. 8) You ask why we would assume we were here in this universe by chance. The answer is Occam's razor, i.e. "Among competing hypotheses, the one with the fewest assumptions should be selected." It requires far fewer assumptions to go with a universe that originated by chance and then simply followed its natural laws than to assume that a supernatural intelligent being, whom we have no objective evidence for, deliberately made it as it is for our benefit. In fact, accepting the latter doesn't really explain anything, it just pushes everything back onto an even bigger mystery. 9) Believing in God is a delusion when there are far more probable natural explanations for the supposed "fingerprints" you claim to see, and there is no actual objective evidence for any deities, much less your personal Christian deity. 10) You repeatedly talk about how the non-theistic explanation relies entirely on chance. This is false. First of all, there are not only two options: the Christian God (yes, we know that's who you meant) or 100% completely blind chance. There are plenty of other options. But, second of all, when it comes to things like the formation of stars, planets, and evolution, these are natural processes that follow fairly predictable rules, even if the initial state is set by chance. Even without God, there is plenty more that brought this universe to it's current state than chance. Look, the fact is, we don't know the exact how and why of the moment of the origin of the universe. So, when you don't know something, it's far more honest to say, "I don't know." It's NEVER honest to say, "nobody knows, therefore I know it was God because I can't figure out how else it would have happened." Ignorance is never a source of knowledge.

[@josh10923]

Hi (I am not trying to troll or anything, just want to debate) although I am a firm believer that there is a 'god' (although I personally don't think it is one we have heard about) I agree with most of the things you said. I would just like to say that your 7th point says that there is potentially 'countless universes' and couldn't that prove the existence of an all powerful being beyond our laws of time/space and gravity? After all with a countless number of universes wouldn't that make the production of a 'god' basically inevitable and therefore in some ways couldn't 'he' then end up becoming the creator of every universe before and after his existence? Just my opinion and some ideas to think about :D P.S. I pretty much agree (or can at least see the point you are making) with everything else.

[@HiEv001]

Joss Jones - "couldn't (countless universes) prove the existence of an all powerful being beyond our laws of time/space and gravity?" No. Even if there could potentially be countless universes, that doesn't make EVERYTHING possible. For example, there could be infinite ways to mix red and blue paints, but you'll never get green no matter how you mix them. So if the laws of the multiverse don't make such a being possible, then it doesn't matter how many universes there are, it still won't be possible. And, heck, even if it was possible, with countless universes then you'd end up with countless such beings, not just one. And it doesn't mean that any particular one of them created any other universes, since universes were being created even before they existed. That said, speculation can be interesting, but without evidence then it's not particularly useful in determining what actually is real. You can't prove anything with speculation alone. I prefer to stick with what there is actual objective evidence for.

[@technolus5742]

Joss Jones In the absence of evidence what makes you so firmly believe there is a god? What is the logic behind that belief of yours?

[@josh10923]

it isn't an absence of evidence it is simply an absence of scientific evidence. if we depend on science to determine if a god exists we will not definitely prove it (science is forever changing anyway so even if we did people would dispute it) just as we cannot use the typical christian beliefs and 'facts' to prove the ancient egyptian gods are real.the logic behind my belief is that there was something to create the universe and as i personally think the big bang has more flaws in it than most religious 'beginnings' i take my personal beliefs in the direction of a creator (not all powerful and almighty, just powerful beyond our own comprehension) sorry for the long explanation but if you still have a question on absence of scientific evidence for proving gods or want to know more about my beliefs then please feel free to ask :D P.S. I apologize for any spelling or grammar :P

[@technolus5742]

Joss Jones It's the absence of anything verifiable of any significant relevance. something =/= god. and what flaws in the big bang exactly? and flaws more deeply flawed than saying it "all" happened in 7 days? That seems unlikely.

[@jimberence]

Hello sir, between 6,5,4,3,2,1 in a row & 6,4,2,6,4,2 in a row by throwing a dice, which is easier to occur in mathematic? Thanks in advance 😊

[@high_intelligence_specimen]

I'm pretty sure chances are the exact same for both

[@declan1680]

@@high_intelligence_specimen same

[@declan1680]

Yup they are definitely the same

[@mischok7215]

If we consider a perfect dice, a perfect floor, perfect gravitation, no air resistence and a truly random throw, it should be the same. There is probably way more to that, but I think you get the Idea

[@harryp.nesspraisegod4033]

No. Firstly it would be pretty strange for us to find ourselves in a universe we couldn't exist in. So of course we can exist here, otherwise we wouldn't be here. So if you have a scenario where you have life being unlikely to arise on any particular planet then you'd expect a scenarios where you have a gigantic universe, with countless trillions of stars and planets, under such scenario some of them are bound to have the conditions for life to arise. We can appeal to the natural world for possible solutions because we do know that the natural world exists and it has demonstrated profound explanatory power to explain things we previously didn't understand. We have no knowledge of your universe creating/life creating genie who poofs universes and life out of nothing. We have never seen one of those and we have no indication that one exists or is even possible. Nevermind the fact that any time someone introduces is to the deity they say is the explanation for everything, we find them to be full of absurdities, contradictions and blatant falsehoods.

[@GarageStudio7]

Does spontaneous generation exist...

[@xbhigyxn]

couldn't agree more.

[@Knighted_Owl]

@@GarageStudio7 ?

[@GarageStudio7]

@@Knighted_Owl Does spontaneous generation exist according to science?

[@Knighted_Owl]

@@GarageStudio7 Spontaneous Generation "the supposed production of living organisms from nonliving matter, as inferred from the apparent appearance of life in some supposedly sterile environments." Yeah, how do you think the first cell came into existence?

[@guts1258]

3:14 "But we don't have any scientific evidence for it" Same can be said for your sky daddy.

[@geovaporizer1618]

Did you watch the video?

[@geovaporizer1618]

He knows that lack of evidence against god does not indicate his existence. He cleary states near the end of the video that his purposes were only to prove that no one should be ridiculed for neither believing in god nor being an atheist, as there is no indefinite evidence for both of them.

[@brandonmaisonneuve6461]

GeoVaporizer​ atheism is a lack of belief in a god/gods, not a belief that there is no god/gods. Thus, a lack of belief in something is valid, so long as the belief you lack isn't proven correct. Essentially, until a god is proven to exist, lacking a belief in god is valid, because nothing points to it. Its just speculation. Pastafarians (the flying spaghetti monster) may be correct and Christians may be wrong, but until it is proven, what reason do you have to believe other than threats from a book and some internal emotional turmoil?

[@geovaporizer1618]

I guess that makes sense.

[@buasuda0]

Hmm, what if I'm not an atheist, yet I don't believe in any form of sky-pops. You do realize there are explanations beside those two?

[@BatmanLampin]

😂😂😂 The atheists hurt is so real in these comments. Excellent job, guy with dice 😎

[@samadams1408]

+Ray Van Link - what "hurt"? I'm just offended that so many people accept the argument in the vid - all that demonstrates is that they have an extremely poor grasp of basic probability. Otherwise they'd know it's wrong.

[@BatmanLampin]

Sam Adams It's a KZbin video son. Why so serious? 😂😂😂 I've seen people accept worse arguments. Like the arguments for accepting atheism for example...

[@samadams1408]

+Ray Van Link - there is no "argument for accepting atheism". All that we see are (failed) arguments that attempt to prove the existence of god (or gods as the case may be). "Atheism" is a lack of belief - that is, an atheist is someone that doesn't believe that god (any god) exists. That's very different from believing that god does not exist. So there can be no argument for accepting atheism.

[@BatmanLampin]

Sam Adams 😂😂😂 Nice explanation. Like I said, ive seen people accept worse arguments lol

[@samadams1408]

+Ray Van Link - it's not an argument. It's simple fact. The burden of proof lies with the person making the claim that god (any god) exists. But they've been trying to do that for thousands of years and have had no luck.

[@officialjosiah]

I need someone to define "Chance" as it relates to the beginning. How does it work? Does chance make decisions? Does it have a will? What exactly is chance?

[@myonie22]

a rapper

[@officialjosiah]

@@myonie22 😂

[@eliwalker6245]

John 7:7 King James Version 7 The world cannot hate you; but me it hateth, because I testify of it, that the works thereof are evil. Hebrews 11:6 King James Version 6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him. John 1 King James Version 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. God loves you so much that He sent His only begotten Son to die on the cross to pay for your sins. If you believe and put your trust in Jesus Christ, that He died on the cross to pay your sin debt and that He rose again on the third day, you will be saved. once you are saved, you will not die in your sins and be damned to hell for eternity. God will remove your sins and your soul will be washed clean with the blood that Jesus Christ shed for us on the cross. your own good works will not get you into heaven. Jesus Christ did all of the work for you, all you have to do is believe and put your trust in Him and He will save you. Ephesians 1:13 King James Version 13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,. Jesus Christ is coming back very soon and we all have to be ready. I pray in Jesus Christ's mighty name that you be saved. God bless :)

[@greenstargin5321]

"Chance" is a way statisticians can sidestep facts to "Prove" unsolvable problems.

[@deistormmods]

Chance doesn't really exist. No such thing. If you set the perfect conditions you could get a 100% chance at landing a tails every time you throw a coin. But like he said that's only if you rig the conditions to your benefit. The universe can't do that.

[@zach4832]

This video really just explains how it’s not logical to say with certainty there is or isn’t a god(s). We simply don’t know, and that’s ok. So we can all just disagree to disagree and worry about being there to support one another.

[@zach4832]

@@Green-rp6br it’s called being respectful towards others.

[@f2r3b0rn4]

It couldn't be multiple gods bc they would be in-equal/ created, not a singular creator

[@matthiasbachetzky3085]

@@zach4832 Its not about respect, when you want to say, "you cant say, there is no god, we dont know". Its no respect for science at all or normal thinking people.

[@zach4832]

@@matthiasbachetzky3085 it’s abo respect. We all believe different things and always will as humans. Nobody has any right to force their own beliefs on another. It’s very much about respect. If you can’t respect others you need to isolate yourself then.

[@bigbusiness3000]

Agree to disagree.

[@OpCharlieBravo]

can jesus microwave a burrito so hot, he himself could not eat it?

[@Bigironslinger]

"Well, sir, of course He could, but then again... wow as melon scratchers go, that's a honey doodle."

[@Jumbuck1151]

Can God make a boulder so heavy that he can't lift it? Can God make a square with 3 sides? Can God add 1+1 and get the answer 5? God can only do what is logically possible. To answer your question, no because Jesus didn't have a microwave.

[@christianescobar7618]

A burrito is never too hot to eat

[@agentD99]

OpCharlieBravo I thought that Jesus was reincarnated and went directly to heven. And in heven you would be immortal.

[@JoshuaFinancialPL]

burritos contain both meat and cheese and the combination of milk and meat is not kosher. Jesus was a religious Jew and according to Christians kept the law perfectly so, therefore kept kosher, so no, he couldn't eat it.

[@giuliofrancis8524]

Everyone gangsta until one realizes he’s talking about how many times you have to soft reset to get a shiny starter.

[@eternalwoozieinternal853]

@@11_year_old_princess innocent people die to not live in this tragic world that us sinners should continue living in one day this earth is gonna turn into hell and only sinners will be left on here to survive read the bible

[@eternalwoozieinternal853]

@@11_year_old_princess just because one dies doesnt mean they arent resting in peace or ina better place if they trully are innocent theyll be resting in heaven

[@erensts24]

@@eternalwoozieinternal853 exactly, but none of us are truly innocent and we are all sinners, that's why we need the blood of our lord Jesus Christ. God Bless!

[@eternalwoozieinternal853]

@@erensts24 AMEN!!

[@j-joe-jeans]

@@erensts24 Please prove any of your claims.

[@sergeifradindelarenaudiere4618]

Yet, if there are countless expansions that happened, are happening and will keep happening in the future besides the one that created our so ideal universe - then this doesn’t really apply at all. The total expanse of all existence may be as old as is imaginable, therefore the dice could have been rolled for a long enough period of time (in the grand scheme of all that there is including outside our own universe) for this “perfect” roll to occur and create ours.

[@ati88]

was just thinking the same when watching! How can we know that those trillions of non-stable expansions didn't occur before?

[@vitorisi1]

if the big bang created space matter and time all in one from a single point like einstein says do you think there is somthing outside of that space matter and time?

[@sergeifradindelarenaudiere4618]

@@vitorisi1 Other alternate universes also supposedly exist outside our own universe - potentially in limitless numbers.

[@vitorisi1]

@@sergeifradindelarenaudiere4618 completely theoraetical so bassicly the same as me believing in god but there is more proof for god than multiple universes and that belief just leaves more questions

[@vitorisi1]

@@sergeifradindelarenaudiere4618 ask me anything about god im happy to try my best to awnser

[@WillHedley]

If god made us, who made god?

[@mnkwazi]

Will A force that transcends time and matter. Something humans could never grasp.

[@jonathancoy5542]

Will Hedley this is the only normal comment I've read on this video. And good question, he created himself.

[@jonathanbrealey6661]

How did he create himself and why?

[@jonathancoy5542]

Jonathan Brealey does it look like I'm the fucking heaven encyclopedia?

[@ericlang4116]

+Will Hedley God is beyond human comprehension and exists ouside of time and space, He was, is and always will be.

[@youtubersingingmoments4402]

"God does not play dice with the universe" - Albert Einstein

[@user-uo5st2re6m]

Stop telling god what to do Einstein

[@Daniel_Antonio_Arellano782]

@@user-uo5st2re6m LOL

[@NeverTalkToCops1]

@@Daniel_Antonio_Arellano782 Wolfgang Pauli said that to Einstein.

[@ci4392]

And then came Heisenbergs Uncertainty principle

[@rodrigotejada1740]

Don't tell God what to do with the dices

[@illiterateethos422]

The thing is that it's still a chance, and the fact there still is a chance means that the argument that it all happened by chance is still perfectly valid

[@charlesm5080]

That is a flawed argument because the basis of the big bang Theory is based on the fact that they don't know how the original elements of the big bang came into being. The point of this video is making is even if you bypass the massive beginning flaw of something came from nothing which has no logical basis or science behind it at all. The odds of everything being exactly how it is, it's a beyond ridiculous claim that is based entirely on faith and not science. The definition of faith is to believe in something you cannot see, the big bang theory is indeed a faith one would choose to follow and its definitely not based on logic or scientific facts despite what one will tell themselves. The truth is scary for most people and very few actually seek it.

[@illiterateethos422]

@@charlesm5080 perhaps so. Both ways of thinking could be 100% wrong hypothetically but my point was not that the Big bang is a concrete set in stone solution to where the universe originated. My point was that saying "Its insanely unlikely to happen therefore it must've been willed to happen" is just finger in the air guessing - When it comes down to it everything which anyone believes is a faith since 100% certainty is unattainable. We can only have "faith" in what we find more reasonable or logical, Atleast that's the case for some of us. And personally I don't find the idea of an omnipotent being willing everything to happen as very.. reasonable

[@ryanb2576]

​@@charlesm5080 The big bang theory is infinitely better than the genesis story...

[@ckfaraday]

@@charlesm5080 "something came from nothing which has no logical basis or science behind it at all" no one ever said the elements of the big bang "came from nothing". learn the big bang before you try to dispute it, you should also learn what quantum fluctuations are

[@leonardomellado1949]

Events with a lower chance than 1 in 10^50 never happen, mathematicians found that in one study

[@benfitzgerald1843]

Believing there is a God is comparable to believing there are infinite universes however believing in a specific God is much more delusional.

[@eliwalker6245]

John 7:7 King James Version 7 The world cannot hate you; but me it hateth, because I testify of it, that the works thereof are evil. Hebrews 11:6 King James Version 6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him. John 1 King James Version 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. God loves you so much that He sent His only begotten Son to die on the cross to pay for your sins. If you believe and put your trust in Jesus Christ, that He died on the cross to pay your sin debt and that He rose again on the third day, you will be saved. once you are saved, you will not die in your sins and be damned to hell for eternity. God will remove your sins and your soul will be washed clean with the blood that Jesus Christ shed for us on the cross. your own good works will not get you into heaven. Jesus Christ did all of the work for you, all you have to do is believe and put your trust in Him and He will save you. Ephesians 1:13 King James Version 13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,. Jesus Christ is coming back very soon and we all have to be ready. I pray in Jesus Christ's mighty name that you be saved. God bless :)

[@cloroxbleach7554]

ww3 in comments let's go

[@cyrilgigee4630]

There shall be many crusades... on both sides.

[@Hamza_azmaH123]

You mean universe war 1

[@kingakuma1990]

Gurnski Deti yes! Allah is indeed the greatest!

[@Hamza_azmaH123]

@@johannes1689 you misspelled your name my guy

[@hellreaper2845]

Time to grab the popcorn

[@thebittersweetmyke1]

i love when theists try to use science to bolster their theories. God is dying out and in a few generations theists numbers will be dwindling

[@anewmodeisunlocked3600]

Michael Robinson Sounds like a narcissistic fantasy of yours. Please get off your high horse, we need it's hooves for producing glue now.

[@thebittersweetmyke1]

fantasy thats becoming reality so sure whatever. no high horse just glad to see progress and religion taking a back seat to that. also not a vegan/vegetarian so do what you want with the hooves.

[@thebittersweetmyke1]

DENYOURMAKER i wasn't speaking specifically about the us. however. the Harris poll says the following "Just under 2-in-10 U.S. adults described themselves as very religious, with an additional 4-in-10 describing themselves as somewhat religious down from 49 percent in 2007. Twenty-three percent of Americans identified themselves as not at all religious, nearly double the 12 percent reported in 2007" in europe the figures show less and less believing in God also at much greater numbers.

[@DanielAraya5]

I certainly do hope superstition and religions die out, they have been the cancer of the world disguised as ¨love and eternal life¨ while manipulating weak minds into creating the biggest conflicts, division and hate we have ever seen.

[@thebittersweetmyke1]

***** theists dont often use science correctly. or atleast they pick and chose to suit their narrative.

[@siddharthborkar6577]

I disagree, I think the universe didn't adjust itself to sustain us. But, WE adapted ourselves to survive in this harsh environment as with all the fundamental forces and constants you've mentioned, from a single cell when life started on this earth to an evolved form that we call a human today. An organism always evolves for what it wants and needs to survive easily.

[@ibrahimbaghdadi4995]

Japanese should have adapted to Hiroshima

[@eliwalker6245]

John 7:7 King James Version 7 The world cannot hate you; but me it hateth, because I testify of it, that the works thereof are evil. Hebrews 11:6 King James Version 6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him. John 1 King James Version 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. God loves you so much that He sent His only begotten Son to die on the cross to pay for your sins. If you believe and put your trust in Jesus Christ, that He died on the cross to pay your sin debt and that He rose again on the third day, you will be saved. once you are saved, you will not die in your sins and be damned to hell for eternity. God will remove your sins and your soul will be washed clean with the blood that Jesus Christ shed for us on the cross. your own good works will not get you into heaven. Jesus Christ did all of the work for you, all you have to do is believe and put your trust in Him and He will save you. Ephesians 1:13 King James Version 13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,. Jesus Christ is coming back very soon and we all have to be ready. I pray in Jesus Christ's mighty name that you be saved. God bless :)

[@abel2933]

Dont you think... A Cell, DNA is as Complex as a human... Since being a design that configures itself to circumstances... Needs Equally God as intiater which is seen in the video. The Cell that evolves itself to the environment is equally as complex as Human which is metqphored as an improbable chance of dice

[@siddharthborkar6577]

@@abel2933 The initiator is not a god but the energy itself which flows from higher potential to lower potential to achieve equilibrium/neutrality or ZERO when there is an unbalanced system. Like an electron would move towards a proton to neutralize the effect of force. Similarly, life is a chemical system that uses energy to keep itself from reaching chemical equilibrium. I'm not a super human myself which knows answer to every question of yours, if I would, I would already be flying in a space ship, bring the dead back to life or do the heck I want to in my life. Because just not me but the human brain itself as a human race has not developed or evolved itself that much to know things and answers to every question you throw at it. We are still in the process and always will be. But, it doesn't mean if we don't know the answer to it yet, it is being done by a mythical god which doesn't exist.

[@siddharthborkar6577]

I personally feel, an organism is a box in which a small quantity of 'energy' is caged.

[@Yash-Gaikwad]

Maybe it happened many times... We only get to ask or think this question because we only exist when it got right. And when it got wrong no one where to there.

[@RoyDontHugMeImScared]

Imagine the defeat you'd feel rolling a six 999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999 times in a row only to roll a one on the next roll.

[@hossamtarek2272]

All praise be to God as it should for the majesty of your face and the greatness of your authority. Allah, guide us to the straight path. I am believing that you are the only right god, the heavenly books are revealed from you, All the prophets were revealed from you for inviting people to worship you, you have no sons and nothing like you, and the judgment day exists. thank you for making us Muslims. thank you for revealing the holy Quran which is full of all types of miracles. thank you for rewarding the believers by the heavens and the paradise. thank you for making us certain that you are the only God which deserves to be worship. Allah, you know that I am inviting people to enter Islam and believe in you to satisfy you. you know that I am trying to satisfy you. how we could make sure? what is true religion? what is the evidence? and all the topics related to faith are present in the Holy Quran, the words of Allah. tell me your questions that are preventing you from accepting Islam brother. religion comparisons are present in the Holy Quran. Also, doctor Zakir naik has done these matters. for looking at the scientific shreds of evidence in the Holy Quran, look at this article 1drv.ms/b/s!AmL9SYpFyLhJaiDZWMe57FtRN5w?e=no9nP8 thank you for reading 🥰🥰🥰

[@mochatech121]

@@hossamtarek2272 LOL! COPY AND PASTE

[@accountlol7409]

@@mochatech121 yep

[@AntiFreeMarket]

Just pretend like that didn't happen and roll a six next roll. If that actually happened though I would be really sad.

[@j-joe-jeans]

@@hossamtarek2272 Wasted copy

[@qwertzuwu]

now consider this- if we never existed, then we would not be there to observe it. now consider that the universe iterates. the universe could have gone through an unknowable amount of iterations before it landed on one that supports life. this is the only iteration we can observe. it's not about luck. it's about us not being able to see past the ends of our noses.

[@marcosfernandes1457]

So, what you're saying is that someone is "throwing the dice"? There's someone trying to create an universe where life is possible? With the laws of inertia, for an universe to start to create, something must first generate its motion. Something... or someone.

[@qwertzuwu]

@@marcosfernandes1457 nah. no scientist currently knows what CAUSES the laws of physics to exist, just that they do. nothing regarding how the universe is exactly the way it is has been proven. all proofs are mere speculation. my initial statement about the universe iterating is just one of many reasons why we can exist. i'm not trying to say there isn't a god. we can't know if there is one. humans are not at that level yet, even if we believe that we are. writing off EVERYTHING that we don't know about the universe as something caused by an unknowable god isn't something we should be doing, especially when there are so many other ways that things can happen.

[@Smartness_itself]

Infinete time, infinete dimensions, infinete chances.

[@juhopetrell1878]

What are the chances that KZbin recommends this 4minute video to me even tho there is thousands of years of content in KZbin?

[@bee7747]

Juho Petrell *G A W D D I D I T*

[@tossacointoyourwitcherOriginal]

Bentley Vo lol

[@RockinTheDub]

Juho Petrell god must me real 😂

[@DuckDodgers6520]

Juho Petrell Same 😂

[@Wesuwius]

It must be the work of marketing algorithm or Jeebus. Or maybe aliens planted analprobe into the KZbin system.

[@theshiningyou]

Don't tell me i was the only one thinking he'll roll the dice 70 times.

[@louaytheking9989]

100000000000 ×10⁴⁵ times

[@jessekwb5035]

@@louaytheking9989 Why didn't you just put it into scientific notation? - 1x10^56

[@logiclogic6703]

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[@logiclogic6703]

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[@logiclogic6703]

@@louaytheking9989 kzbin.info/www/bejne/m4KndpdoqsyenMk

[@biekgiek]

This doesn’t prove anything. It’s just the fine tuning argument. Which is not a scientific analysis. We have no other universes to compare the probability of life occurring in this universe.

[@aphxrd]

The beauty about probability is that an event with as high a probability as 1 in 10^70 doesn't mean it's occurrence is impossible. Improbable does not equate to impossible. It might aid to also remember that we are dealing with theories, not facts. A scientific theory is only as good as its ability to remain irrefutable. Assumptions made to its formulation must also remain as few and also as irrefutable as possible. Theories can be refined, adopted as fact or even dropped altogether based on the existing evidence at the time. That is why to date, such prominent theories as Einstein's Theory of General Relativity continue to be tested against newly discovored cosmological phenomena.

[@rowifi]

I can't understand it... its too incredible.. must be a God.... or maybe I just don't know enough.

[@Tinskap]

rowifi Or maybe we just rolled sixes 70 times in a row and so the universe was born and now we are here and god was not needed.

[@GoldenSpyro]

Tinopinoh u will see in the end. you'll regret everything

[@Tinskap]

TheGqppleHero Sure buddy.

[@GoldenSpyro]

Tinopinoh just a warning remember this comment

[@Tinskap]

TheGqppleHero Science has proven bible wrong multiple times and just to quickly prove god a myth i will ask you this question, If god can do anything can he create a rock so heavy that he can't lift it? and if he can than lifting the rock is something he cannot do.

[@demeritnation]

this doesn't really make any sense since literally the same argument can be made for the other side.

[@turquoisity6555]

That's why it's called "faith".

[@peragrinevagabond3655]

God is Love so, can I believe that little orange lollypop men made the universe, if I have faith enough ?

[@nikitalelyukh6980]

peragrine Vagabond yea you can. you can't prove any of the theory's.

[@TheWaterdog6]

So what your saying is that BOTH sides are faith in something unproved.

[@nikitalelyukh6980]

TheWaterdog6 yes you cant prove that we just got lucky and the universe came into existence and our planet was in the perfect place and life was able to form all by chance. how can you prove that. There are two theory about how the universe started one is the multiverse theory (there are many universes in existence and our was one of the one that were able to create matter and life) the other is the super symmetry which suggests that all of the elementary particles (bosons and fermions) are connected in some way.

[@thiagoyb11]

In a universe that begins and ends on an infinite loop, everything that can happen will happen, an infinite amount of times.

[@NudeCulture]

Yes. This can be seen on our own planet. Just watch or read the daily news.

[@macias7125]

The law of probability teaches us that those odds are impossible to achieve

[@vladmir_gladmir4752]

“Believing in god isn’t a delusion, it’s a perfectly reasonable conclusion when we look at the fingerprints on our universe”. It’s not completely unreasonable to believe in a god but I think it is unreasonable to assume anything about that god considering that there are many different religions that are equally as likely and it’s very possible none of them are correct.

[@eliwalker6245]

Jesus Christ is the only way to heaven. Jesus Christ Loves you so much. Hell is real. You can have eternal life through The Lord Jesus Christ, please read the verses below. God Bless:). 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 King James Version 15 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; 2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. 3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: Ephesians 1:13 King James Version 13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, God Bless:) It's eternity, you want to spend it in heaven not hell. Please read the book of John, and ask God for understanding and He will show you. Please look into it. The evidence is all there. Also look up Lee Strobel " Case for Christ" God Bless:)

[@Ethan-gc7xs]

I wouldn’t say other religions are equally likely, as none of them have the historic writings and legitimacy of those writings as we do with the gospels. I would research the story of Lee Strobel who did all of this research as an atheist and came out the other end as a Christian. God bless!

[@notabot2928]

There are only many gods to confuse People from the one true God Because Satan knew And if there was a choice between God or one other God then God would have a 50% chance people would choose him so by creating many different gods and religions the devil increases the odds people will not find qthe one true God

[@lsc4978]

"Maybe there's an infinite amount of universes with an infinite amount of possibilities. Maybe. But we DON'T HAVE ANY SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE FOR IT" How ironic

[@dazaiel8081]

That was the point of him mentioning that. Lol

[@danielajimenez6938]

lol fr

[@ahamedsuhailudeen7262]

If there's Science behind everything,Who or What is behind Science?

[@ahamedsuhailudeen7262]

@Pig in shit Proof?

[@loganfenn6883]

Literally read this as he said it

[@Xoxo_Aloe]

What if its a simulation INSIDE ANOTHER SIMULATION INSIDE ANOTHER SIMULATION Thx for the likes.. currently a new record

[@TechnoDelight]

Mind blown

[@kyaki101]

Stop watching rick and morty

[@gabo1841997]

More probable than god though

[@hunterwerther8332]

What if we are powering a car or spaceshipnwith whatever work we do

[@l3gacy]

@Zedlika Yato okay smart boy maybe you could spell simulation right next time

[@magnisha8094]

“Coincidence is the way of God to stay anonymous” - Albert Einstein

[@emirgunal9568]

“ I didn’t say that shrit” - Albert Einstein

[@user-ry2gz6lf3b]

If I'm Not wrong this is referring to the teleological arguement. 1. The Universe isn't fine tuned for us humans: We are only filling a very small space of it, Earth. And Most places such as other planets + Space itself + some areas in earth aren't fitting for us to live in and we would die in. Gravitational force isn't something that is fitted to us. Ask any person who jumped from over 100ft, Oh wait you can't, they're dead. Nature isn't fitted to us, a human wouldn't survive most nature disasters and most other animals would wreck primal humans. this leads us to talking about modernity. some places aren't supposed to fit for our living but we are capable of living in it, Not because it was fine-tuned for us but because we fine-tuned it for ourselves with either something as simple as clothing or with modern technology. 2: Who said it was by chance? some people mistakenly assert that the big bang is something that came out of nothing or by chance and etc. That's not quite correct yet it isn't wrong either. It's simple, The Answer to that is unknown. so far our current capability of tracking back goes so far till the big bang. We don't know what was before it or if there even was anything before it. this leads to the final number 3.: 3: How's god specifically related? this is pretty much answering out of ignorance, if you don't know something it doesn't mean the answer must be god. it also doesn't mean it isn't god. and the amount of possibilities definetly isn't limited to just the 3 abrahamic religions and atheism. it could be lots of lots of different possibilities. No one knows yet. Meaning, this does not in any way prove God exists.

[@cosmicmusicreynolds3266]

so much is unknown , thats why we should not assume anything qgainst god s existence true. science still have nt come up with an answer or even credible possibilities

[@user-ry2gz6lf3b]

@@cosmicmusicreynolds3266 sorry to tell you but that's an answer out of ignorance, Just because something is unknown it does not mean it must be GOD. there is so much proof God does not exist. you can look in the darkmatter2525 channel, specifically the power corrupts series of his.

[@cosmicmusicreynolds3266]

@@user-ry2gz6lf3b I will thanks but remember the idea that the big bang theory infact being more than 50 years old now still does nt not bring us nearer to answering the fundamental question of the universe. what advance science does nt give any more theories in the origins of what we know ! .With some theories i ve heard it makes it easier to believe in god than those scientistic theories which are equally as hard to believe in

[@user-ry2gz6lf3b]

@@cosmicmusicreynolds3266 Np, also like ya said the big bang isn't a theory anymore it is a fact, However you are right that it is unknown what caused the big bang (if there even was a cause), but once again, Unknown does not mean god. Btw gotta tell ya It's nice once in a while seeing someone who doesn't curse at me or say WTF and etc. I wish more people would have been like you in terms of attitude.

[@aussj4link]

I always loved the "It's too improbable so I'm just going to assume it's actually impossible." shit argument. See, what people fail to realize is the reason we even have winners in the lottery in the first place. Imagine if every lottery was played with just one ticket per drawing, what are the chances then? Unbelievably low. So why do we win? Because there isn't just one ticket, there's a number of tickets that's comparable to the extremely low chance of winning. Effectively turning a 1 in millions chance into something much more likely like 1/5 that someone will win during a drawing. The chance of a planet that supports abiogenesis is extremely low, but what you must realize is the shear number of planets out there that are essentially tickets in this drawing of the lottery of life. There are plenty of tickets being played constantly to give life a damn good chance. So stop with the whole "It's impossible because it's improbable." nonsense.

[@gotinogaden]

Yes, but the argument is all about the universe as a whole, or at least one variety of the argument. Having a space with stable physical properties and multiple planetary systems may well lead to the development of life on some of those planets, but when we take the reasoning to the universe, it is not so simple, especially since the number of non-life-permitting universes will be much, much greater than the ones that would permit life. The lottery analogy would not hold in this case, unless there are multiple universes, or a law that necessitates physical laws that are life-permitting. It would be more like John Leslie's analogy, whereby a group of professional shooters in a prison execute thousands of prisoners per day, and then it turns out that one of the prisoners actually survives the ordeal. Wouldn't it be surprising that he survived? It is an interesting argument, but depending on how it is put forward, it can easily crumble.

[@rpj187]

I enjoy the lottery metaphor. Might borrow it in the future.

[@aussj4link]

DENYOURMAKER Impossibility only occurs when the chance is 0%. Anything above that, no matter how small, is still not impossible.

[@aussj4link]

ThePSXHive Yes but an infinite number of universes cancels out any chance no matter how low. If you play the lottery with infinite tickets, you are guaranteed to win no matter how low the chance is when playing only one ticket.

[@aussj4link]

DENYOURMAKER lol, I guess by your logic, no one ever wins the lottery. No one ever finds diamonds. No one ever does anything or has anything happen to them when those things have really low chances because low chance = impossible. XD

[@Zombarakh]

"Probability is a measure of human ignorance, not a fact of reality." ~ A guy I saw in the comment's section.

[@j-joe-jeans]

I like that. I bring to your attention the fact that we never really know anything in an absolute manner. Probability is the human equivalent of saying "Most likely" while being intellectually honest that we do nto know it all. I may use the line tho.

[@Tonydalowk]

@@j-joe-jeans lol, your statement contradicts itself

[@j-joe-jeans]

@@Tonydalowk How so?

[@Tonydalowk]

@@j-joe-jeans you said we don’t know anything in an absolute manner, how do you know that’s true if nothing can be known absolutely according to your beliefs

[@Tonydalowk]

@@j-joe-jeans according to your standards, you’re wrong Plus you’re making an absolute truth claim by saying nothing can absolutely be known

[@sundarchip]

The problem with saying a god created the universe is that it is a non-answer, because if that is the case, the next logical question would be how God came into existence. At this point, if you turn around and say God always existed or came about by chance, then this answer is logically no different from saying the universe always existed or came about by chance. The only difference is that your answer adds an additional step for no reason.

[@famouspotato3617]

He always existed.. time has no meaning or effect on Him.

[@sundarchip]

@@famouspotato3617 Prove it.

[@evenheathen]

What makes you think that we are at all important? So what if there was a universe without us?

[@logicalratio]

Further to that, it seems most of the universe, galaxy, solar system and in-fact earth is without us. We occupy a small fraction of this oblate spheroid physically, biomass wise and in sheer numbers when compared to other life here.

[@ajesusencounter8261]

Whatever the cause, however the odds, it's still pretty amazing that we're here

[@albertsamarragarcia7788]

I think space-time is the real god here

[@goodbye6676]

@@albertsamarragarcia7788 nah space time can't bring us here

[@goodbye6676]

@stockholm syndrome says who?

[@goodbye6676]

@stockholm syndrome pfft- ok buddy

[@basleals7285]

@@albertsamarragarcia7788 Space time didn't exist before big bang

[@aidenoneil6292]

"Your conclusion is improbable therefore my conclusion is correct"

[@dslayer418]

Aiden O'Neil not the argument being made sooooo what was the point of your comment?

[@randomuruk7230]

@@dslayer418 yes it is

[@anakinskywalker5659]

Your conclusion is that you don't know, so you can't invalidate the statement "God exists".

[@aidenoneil6292]

@@anakinskywalker5659 You don't know that unicorns don't exist. Therefore you can't invalidate my statement. See how ludicrous that sounds

[@bruh-hd2sm]

@Aiden O'Neil unicorns do exist bruh, look it up

[@yosh3058]

Tbh my main issue with the argument from complexity is the same argument I have with the cosmological argument. While the premises aren't perfect, I'm usually willing to accept them just on their own merit. The issue is the conclusion. Ultimately the conclusion of the arguments from complexity or chance just tells us that there might have been a intelligent entity that developed the universe. That entity could be god, or it could be countless other concepts. Or, the conclusion could suggest that their are multiple universes, existing either in sequence or parallel to each other. No matter how low the odds, eventually one of these universes will have the right criteria. Or, the conclusion could suggest that since the universe is so "perfectly made for us" that humans themselves, or another similar species within the universe somehow created it so that they could keep on living. Ultimately, there are just way too many potential ideas these arguments point to, even if you grant their premises. And the people giving these arguments usually aren't arguing for a vague notion of a god or gods. They have a specific god in mind. If you want me to believe in your god, then even if you could demonstrate a gods existence you'd be no closer to converting me. You still have to show that the god is your specific god. The more abstract arguments for god get, the more plausible but less falsifiable they become. The more specific the argument is, the easier the argument is to combat. I always found that pretty interesting.

[@eliwalker6245]

Jesus Christ is the only way to heaven. Jesus Christ Loves you so much. Hell is real. You can have eternal life through The Lord Jesus Christ, please read the verses below. God Bless:). 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 King James Version 15 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; 2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. 3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: Ephesians 1:13 King James Version 13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, God Bless:) It's eternity, you want to spend it in heaven not hell. Please read the book of John, and ask God for understanding and He will show you. Please look into it. The evidence is all there. Also look up Lee Strobel " Case for Christ" God Bless:)

[@Papa-dopoulos]

Hi there. Mr “2 months later” guy swooping in here. I would encourage you to look outside this admittedly mysterious dice-rolling analogy to give God both a broader and more specific set of dice rolls to prove himself. Here’s what I mean - yes, we can rope in alternate universes to make this crazy low probability seem less divinely inspired, but what if there were a book attributed to the intelligent designer in which (as extra biblical sources have confirmed) a divinely inspired person reliably, consistently, and specifically tells the future? There aren’t an infinite number of Jesus’ of the Bible; the probabilistic parameters are much, much easier to understand in that case. In other words, the reason I believe that we were not only created, but created by the God of Israel, is the dice-rolling issue COMBINED with the ability of Jesus and OT prophets to literally tell the future. We can craft arguments all day on a scientific basis as to why the universe was not created by a divine being, but is there any scientific explanation whatsoever for clairvoyance?

[@yosh3058]

@@Papa-dopoulos Hey Mr 2 Months late. I'd rather just call you tim though, rolls off the tongue a bit better. I would agree that if you could verify specific events being predicted it would do wonders to verify the supernatural capability of whoever made these predictions. However, I do not agree that these predictions actually occured. I have dived thoroughly into a lot of biblical prophecy and I have yet to find satisfactory evidence of devine prediction. From my experience, most predictions I see cited as being fulfilled have one of two issue. Either 1) They original prediction was incredibly vague as to allow any number of different events to seemingly "fulfill" the prophecy. Or 2) A later writer claims a prophecy (that they have previous knowledge of) is fulfilled, however these fulfillment cannot be verified historically. I am absolutely open to having my mind changed however, and if you have one or several specific examples you want to cite I would be more than willing to take a look at them. Hope you're having a good one

[@Papa-dopoulos]

@@yosh3058 Absolutely and thanks for being open to it. In moments of doubt, I too have wrestled with the idea “what if the prophecies were just rewritten after x event happened to make it fit better,” but thankfully, we have a few workarounds - usually in the form of extra biblical confirmations, prophecies that came true way after the New Testament, and/or the logical barriers to disbelief (11 different people in 4 different languages sharing the same story across the world). Alright, to the specifics: Daniel 9. The prophecy of weeks. I’m still learning, but to me, this prophecy (predicting the baptism/ministry of Jesus to the exact year) is so precise and irrefutable, all we have to determine is that it was in fact written before Christ’s time. The destruction of Tyre. Another one I’m going to butcher (forgive me God). God said through the prophet Ezekiel that Tyre would not only be put to the sword, but it’s stones would be thrown to the sea and it would never be rebuilt in all its glory - he said it would be a place for fishermen to cast their nets. Well, after Nebuchadnezzar put Tyre to the sword; they retreated to their island fortress. Then, Alexander the Great, in a new tactic of war that nobody was commonly using at the time, built a land bridge to the fortified Tyre and did everything to fulfill the rest of the prophecy. Check it out in much better detail here www.padfield.com/1994/destruction-of-tyre.html These aren’t officially prophecies, and even though they seem like small discoveries at first, I actually find the following points to be extremely convincing because they demonstrate true divine knowledge; knowledge that science didn’t catch up with for centuries after the New Testament: -The Israelites somehow knew that the earth was a sphere -God told the Israelites not to use the restroom in their encampments, centuries before we knew that was a health issue - The Bible knew that the stars were innumerable in a time when everyone else thought you could just count them all without a telescope -The Bible disallowed the eating of animals that died of natural causes, long before we knew that this scenario is more likely (than slaughtering) to produce parasites and toxins. I don’t think we will ever find that “smoking gun” in favor of Christianity (until Christ comes back, that is) because what would be the point of having faith? If we all knew it was true, then this would paradoxically defeat the entire religion, because we would all have faith and we would all be saved. But God loves us so very much that he is inching himself soooo close to us without technically “cheating” so we have the best possible chance of seeing the truth. Apologies I was too hasty to add the verses for everything, and thanks again for listening

[@zenastronomy]

whether you believe in a specific god is irrelevant to the question of whether you believe in God. they are seperate questions. many people believe in god, but not religions. don't conflate the two.

[@daggerclick-ps4cc]

"theres multiple different possible outcomes but atleast 1 of them would comme out, we're not even living in either best or the worse timeline"

[@showmaker8168]

The singular pronoun of a dice is die

[@aasimmukhtar7752]

Did you just assume the die's pronoun. How dare you! TRIGGEREDDDD

[@maxlong3280]

SHOW MAKER the plural of dice is die

[@schell0118]

SHOW MAKER "The singular pronoun of a dice is die" Even if it hasn't been cast?

[@schell0118]

@Bradley Frank "People who title these videos are either are idiots or very good trolls." I'm not convinced these two options are mutually exclusive.

[@htowndevil6564]

And this is what I came here for

[@domi_09]

Me to crush - *"When are we going out on a date?"* Crush : 1:40

[@ednamariamonteiro2818]

lol

[@shatpostsupplier1570]

Rip

[@elitegamingandmore3723]

Edna Maria Monteiro 😂

[@davidnaomi5092]

rip

[@Reporterreporter770]

😂😂😂

[@MrEntaroadun]

All you need is favourable condition in planet to form water molecule. Once we have water, life will develop on itself.

[@dannyevans3884]

Like a bottle flip if you practice enough I'm sure you could get it everytime, same with a dice if you concentrate on how hard to throw the dice and where to align the 6 maybe so it's underneath then throw it a certain speed to hit a 6

[@gratifyingjeans9795]

Imagine rolling a seven on six sided dice

[@markpritchard4901]

I'm still trying to imagine all the people living in harmony. Reportedly, it's easy if you try.

[@icrushchildrensdreams4556]

Only Jesus would be able to do that

[@aspiknf]

Not even God can do that

[@jayYT217]

Of course he can he is omnipotent

[@christopherstolper5306]

.....aliens

[@kwaakwamtayola8210]

Who is to say the universe only had one shot at existence?

[@ayudhdasroy7090]

Exactly, the universe might have "thrown a dice" trillions of times and then it had the chance to exist.

[@ssepic_]

fair point!

[@volticleux]

The guy in the vid actually kinda addresses this at 3:41

[@haku8135]

There's also the possibility that there's only ONE possible configuration. Just saying "If things were different, then things would be different" is NOT an argument for god. It's not an argument for ANYTHING, it's just a statement.

[@CreaphikVideos]

Nobody. The universe went instantly from nonexistence to an extremely fine-tuned existence

[@stmp4160]

Extremely unlikely doesn't make it impossible, if we weren't lucky and the certain circumstances needed never happened we wouldn't be here to say that we are way too lucky for that to be the reason. We are one in a billion chance amongst millions of solar systems and galaxies inside a universe, it's reasonable to think that at least one of those would be lucky enough to get it right. Same with the universe, saying we're here proves it's God is not relevant as if it didn't happen you wouldn't be here to say "we weren't lucky".

[@eitancahlon]

You have to remember: the probability of getting a 6 in a cube is only 1/6 in a *fair* cube. Therefore this argumenr might jot be valid if you consider the counter arguent made with the jar (you can search about it)

[@ethanrockburn2686]

Lol 14k atheists just passing through

[@someguy872]

Ethan Rockburn yep

[@BlackWhiteDingoLP]

You don't have to be an atheist to see that this is absolute garbage.

[@StormCrownSr]

Don't you mean 14k people that aren't gullible fools?

[@NotFlappy12]

lol 15k retards just passing through

[@manuelmachado3045]

Ethan Rockburn there's no god

[@ammartamimi9864]

Actually, the chance for me commenting on this video is one over infinity.

[@jimcampbell632]

Nah. People that know you would have given even odds. :-D

[@vision3691]

@Facts, Logic & Reason wow!

[@vision3691]

@Facts, Logic & Reason to his comment, it made me think

[@mikepierce6092]

That's funny you said that, because you did comment, so not quite as impossible as you said.

[@laterreurdelanuit8750]

@@mikepierce6092 Thats an euphemism

[@0xssff]

and what makes you think that the formation of "life" matters for this universe

[@ANDROLOMA]

#1 Inspect an anthill. Any anthill. #2 Choose an ant at random. Any ant. #3 Ask yourself: "What can I do to get this ant to believe in me? To worship me, to praise me, to pray to and sacrifice to me?" #4 Then ask yourself: "Why am I asking such stupid questions?" #5 Then ask yourself an intelligent question: "If I'm so much more advanced than any ant, and I don't care what it thinks about me, then how much more so would any sentience capable of creating universes care about what I think?" #6 Then go about your way confident in the ability that you've chided yourself successfully.

[@robertgullett3809]

As it happens, if the universe did not do what it does then no one would be here to argue about it.

[@daffymore]

roll of dice is calculated on the probability theory. But it is possible to skill out your dice throw. Same goes for the needle dropping between a line or crossing a line. Do that a couple of times and you become skilled and can choose the position where you want it to land. A bit more practice and finger snapping movement comes in to play and the needle falls point first and sticks into the surface. Probability theory hasn't much to do with the universe. Even Einstein believed "God" did not dice.

[@mikefanofmovies]

Atheists, christians, so called jews, muslims. Yea all peoples of the earth, hear the Word of the Lord, spoken to us, THIS last generation! More of these Letters found at the bottom of this comment; "Thus says The Lord: Peoples of the earth, do you know Me? Do you really know who I am? I am Elohim. YAHUSHUA-YAHUWAH is My name, both God and Savior. For in The Son does the fullness of The Father dwell.[1] Yet you of this earth have not known Me! Behold, I have spoken to you plainly, using few figures of speech, yet you do not know Me! From the beginning, even to this day, I have declared My glory through all My servants, the prophets, and still you refuse to embrace Me as I truly am! Behold, the peoples of the earth pollute My name, and the nations take counsel together to strike Me from remembrance! Therefore, ALL shall come to know Me in My anger! Every tribe, tongue, and people shall behold My hand against the nations, until all those who blaspheme are bowed down, until every jaw is clamped shut and every tongue cleaves to the roof of the mouth! For I am come out of My sanctuary, to astound the nations, to judge and to pour out judgment, to repay and take vengeance upon My enemies, to make an end! Yet I ask you, who among the nations fears Me? Who among this modern generation, among all these multitudes of perverse and vile people, revere My name? Who, among this great multitude, trembles in fear at the coming of The Lord?! And who among the mighty shall be able to stand, when the wrath of God is revealed from Heaven?! Therefore repent, and establish My way before Me, says The Lord God, and I shall also establish you! For I am The Lord, and I shall establish justice in all the earth! Why, O peoples of the earth, do you stand proud? Why do you set your faces like stone, and resolve in your hearts to fight against Me? Behold, I have set My face against YOU, and resolve in My heart to abase you, until the pride of man is bowed down and the arrogance of man is utterly humiliated, as it is written! Be bowed down therefore, O most wicked generation! Humble yourselves and repent, and seek now The Righteousness of The Lord, that you may live and not die! Peoples of the earth, how long shall you court death and desire abomination?! Your hearts are full of adultery; you cease not from lying down with sin! Behold, you have joined yourselves to the grave and With death you have made your agreement![2]... Foolish people, see now the Word of The Lord, Open your ears and listen to the voice of The Lord your God, And establish My way before Me, that you may live and not die... For there is no other God besides Me; A just God and a Savior, there is none besides Me[3]... Says The Lord." ~ "Peoples of the earth, hear the Word of The Lord your God: You are lost, drowning in a deep sea of transgression, sinking in the ever-shifting sands of religion and science. You are stuck in the mire of your iniquities, slowly suffocating, as the fruit of your labor comes full circle to take away your life. For by your own works have you destroyed the garden, on account of your greed have you caused much suffering and death, bringing calamity upon your own heads! Thus because of your great iniquity I have drawn back My hand, and for the multitude of your transgressions the judgment of God has come upon you. Dead generation, foolish children, evil surrounds you on every side! Darkness closes in, yet you remain unmoved! Detestable birds gather and predators come forth to stalk you as prey, yet you see no cause for alarm! Therefore as I live, says The Lord, My flock has become the prey and My children have made themselves meet for the slaughter! For the peoples of the earth have forsaken Me, days without end; they have altogether gone astray! My created ones have removed themselves far from Me, and My own beloved have not returned to Me, but do always seek their own way! And of the shepherds, they did not go out to search for My flock, but have fed themselves! They did not feed My flock, BUT HAVE FED THEMSELVES! Therefore hear the Word of The Lord, all you self-appointed shepherds, and give ear, all you wayward flocks, for you have surely broken the yoke and burst the bonds, you have surely forsaken The Lord your God; for thus says The Lord: I am against you! Your houses are fallen, and the foundations upon which you have built yourselves up crumble beneath your feet! All is dust and ashes, rubble piled up in heaps! Oh what a bitter thing this is, unending sadness, anguish and pain; My own beloved have departed from Me, My own children have gone far astray! I gave My Son for them, that they may live and not die, I laid Myself upon the altar, yet they want no part with Me as I truly am! Thus they choose death, and with the grave they have made their agreement. Therefore, thus says The Lord: Tremble, O heavens! Shake, O earth! Let the seas rage and the mountains crumble before the coming of The Lord! Let the whole earth be bowed down before The Holy One of Israel, for My Kingdom comes!... Behold, The Almighty is coming down to you, yes, The Son who wears the full raiment of The Father. For in Him alone does the fullness of God dwell. Thus HE shall pluck you from the fire, HE shall scourge the nations with the Word of His power, and strike the wicked with the sword of His mouth. Yes, HE shall tread the grapes in the winepress of the wrath of My fury, wiping the wicked from existence, destroying all things which sicken His sheep and cause His flocks to go astray; behold, He shall utterly destroy all that offends! My people, The Mashiach is your help and your shield; YahuShua, whom you call Jesus and Christ, Is The Rock of your Salvation, The One who is and was and is to come; For The Father and The Son are One... Therefore, embrace Me in My Mercy, And receive of Me in My Great Love. Thus says The Lord, your Redeemer: I am indeed coming down to shake the heavens and the earth, to move all from its place; to bring forth that which was hidden and to reveal that which was misplaced;[1] to open that which was shut and to shut that which was opened. Therefore prepare, My people, for the time has come; yes, today is the day of salvation! Go forth, beloved ones, and set all these crooked paths straight; regain the line, prepare and watch. For the leaves of the fig tree are upon its branches; summer is near![2] Again I say, watch. For The One who ascended is about to descend... And lo, I am come, in the volume of the Book it is written of Me, to accomplish The Father’s will.[3] For I have heard the cries of the oppressed and the groaning of the poor and the needy, I know the plight of the fatherless and the widow. I have tasted their tears, and the heart of the faithful is not hidden from Me. Therefore watch[4] and also listen, and be spared, for I am about to give a shout.[5] For all that is written in the Book of The Lord, both the former and the latter, comes to pass through Me. Take heed therefore, for assuredly I say to you, it shall in no wise come to pass as a mere metaphor or as a parable conceived of by men. For the time of arrogant assumptions and prideful assertions is over, the time of corrupt knowledge and polluted sermons is at an end. Behold, The Power from on high is coming Forth to reap and to judge the nations, To sound the trumpet in the four corners, To cause the name of The Lord To resound in all the earth... Bow before The King, therefore; Humble yourselves before The Holy One of Israel... Lay yourselves upon the altar and be broken Atop The Stone, and it shall bear you up; Yet stand defiant, and you shall be crushed Beneath the weight of The Mountain[6]... For I do not change, says The Lord." ~ "Lo, multitudes of idols fill every corner! Both the believer and unbeliever bow down together and serve their gods! ALL nations worship the works of their own hands, for they have placed their own creations and the love of their own ideas above their Creator! False deities abound, while science and corrupt religion rule over them! Mere theories become truth and doctrine, and lawlessness is widely accepted! And behold, the love of money has become their new taskmaster, and materialism their god! Sins of every kind imaginable flow through every land! Yea, as a mighty river it flows into every nation, Reaching unto new heights in wickedness as the walls Are broken down, overtopped by these quickly rising waters! The levees are eroded from beneath, they are Undermined continually, widening the breach!... Behold, a great flood of sin has ensued, A terrible deluge covers the face of the whole earth, And still the fear of The Lord is all but forgotten!... THUS THE CUP OF THE WRATH OF MY FURY IS COME TO THE FULL! Behold, My Kingdom comes, and My will shall be done on earth as in Heaven. Even as I had purposed it from the beginning, so shall it be done to this generation. For My throne is set high above the highest heavens, and the earth is but a footstool set beneath My feet. FOR I AM THE LORD! YAHUWAH IS MY NAME! Therefore, let the enemies of The Lord be gathered!" ~ "Behold, the dark clouds gather, the lightning flashes on the horizon, yet no one seeks shelter, not one abides in safety, nor does the sound of thunder make them afraid. For they are a foolish people, a most arrogant generation, a corrupt people heavy-laden with sin; a people who make many lofty assertions without knowledge, a wholly ignorant people who reject the knowledge of God, yet embrace every corrupt theory created by men of science, a people who know not their right hand from their left! Says The Lord."

[@peace8655]

@@daffymore so the universe had the will to create life?

[@daffymore]

@@peace8655 yes, i think this vision was present in the creation, yet i don't know how.

[@donaldperry3497]

@@mikefanofmovies dude please do a TLDR

[@huttbole8312]

Didn’t see any proof my guy

[@bloodstainedrosarymusic460]

Those who mock God will be punished.

[@huttbole8312]

Copper Popcorn he’s been punishing me for about 7 years already

[@andyroow2509]

Jesus Christ is it really worth the not even funny joke?

[@huttbole8312]

SciPig am I really worth wasting your time?

[@coffeeconsumer2707]

Even Jesus knows that this isn't how it works.