How a Diss Track Led to Esports’ Most Humiliating Beatdown

Esports is no stranger to cringe. From terrible handshakes, to weird entrances to god awful trash talk, we’ve seen, and gritted our teeth through it all. But there is one moment, one awkward, almost unwatchable moment that we always come back to. A trainwreck from half a decade ago that not only produced one of esports' juiciest beefs and most humiliating beatdowns, but unquestionably its greatest diss track. Respect your elders.
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[@theScoreesports]

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[@shaunalbert7681]

I’m not gonna lie, I actually love that song

[@friddlefries1140]

Can y’all make a video on Fran’s Community Cup? She raised 10k for charity and the winners got to choose

[@av3ry675]

Any vids coming out on the smash community drama?, Nairo was my favorite player, it’s shocking

[@sdrawkcab190]

Considering everything that's coming to light right now in the scene, calling this the most cringe moment in all of esports is beyond ridiculous.

[@diaco423]

Hey how are you doing ? Question: Are you guys working on a Reckful memorial/Tribute/story video ? We would love to see that from this channel, and I think he diserves it too

[@lucapon3287]

Forgot to mention that after Leffen won evo, Chillin tweeted "Leffen no longer has to show respect to his elders."

[@Faulheit]

legendary tweet

[@zwhazey]

I'm not even into the Smash Pro Scene but that is such an awesome Tweet

[@mauz791]

@@zwhazey same lol. Imagine being shit on so bad, you can't even be in denial anymore

[@wlidbill5261]

that is a man of amazing caliber of the beef was real id say not maybe a lil since they are competing and it sucks to lose whether its a friend or not if money and shit is on the line u bet

[@yopeepthestyle8308]

Mauz i think its the opposite anyone in denial is being shit on in real life lol

[@CCGBacon17]

"You get wins while kicking a man when he's down" *Loses 5-0 to leffen*

[@XC11301991]

And Leffen tried to talk shit again to M2k, and then Leffen got 6-0ed by M2k.

[@hido...]

GSDA yeah but Chillindudes loss was just a straight up embarrassment

[@uluther5709]

@@hido... so was leffen's

[@hido...]

@@uluther5709 imagine making a diss track to get stomped. Mew2King isnt really an embarrassment to lose to. He is one of the best.

[@crackededge9351]

@@XC11301991 Never fuck with the robot, talking shit is the one thing that gets M2K motivated

[@danlorett2184]

Look, Leffen 5-0 Chillin was definitely humiliating. But MOST humiliating? Bruh. PerfectLegend lost a FT10 13-0 to Sonicfox after spending MONTHS talking shit. And that is not a typo. HE LOST A FIRST TO 10 WINS THIRTEEN TO ZERO.

[@taylorfiksdal2895]

Perfect 13gend is a God tier fgc moment

[@fezthedracky8468]

Was going to have to type this, perfect 13gend is the worst beatdown in the FGC history, and serves as a good lesson in why we don't shit talk people who are very confident in themselves and good at the shit they do

[@xehP]

That's MK, this video is about smash.

[@CallieBigTime]

im pretty sure they made a video on that already.

[@Samael767]

Yeah, this one is the real worst.

[@gringoespana]

The thing that still makes me laugh about all of this is how he is chugging from a gallon jug of water between rounds. I've always wondered how much was left in that jug.

[@phuuc8075]

He prepare it for 9 matches...

[@obsidianskin9502]

he is channeling his inner wizzy

[@wlidbill5261]

id say its for people who take addy .takin stims u sweat and heat up so much u need the water or your goin feel fuckin terrible and have cramps like no other . im not sayin he was takin it but that is like a dead giveaway if u see kids at lans with that . an not only that you fill it back up so i promise if he was takin them he prolly filled it up already an on his 3 or 2nd jug . now sittin around u wouldnt drink this much but lke i said he had pressure plus a crowd your goin be sweating

[@otak_]

@@wlidbill5261 Not sure bro. I drink water like crazy during tournaments and I've never taken anything besides caffeine. My good ol' sports bottle gets refills multiple times a day

[@GUMNUT.]

@@wlidbill5261 You're right but chillin probably just had dry mouth from the anxiety. Too much on the line after that weird dis track. You can clearly see see they're on similar levels - a lot of the games came down to 1 stock. I think he choked before he started and knew it.

[@Ms666slayer]

I like how they cut D1 form the Leffen interview.

[@colonelpopcorn7702]

Didn't that used to be mango on the other half of the screen? I don't remember

[@Ms666slayer]

Nah that the Paragon interview when Leffen just trash talks Chillin.

[@guyop6731]

It's a shame they couldn't cut his voice too

[@HdogFGC]

Who?

[@shawnsophasath8140]

There's still a clip of The Moon at 1:40 though

[@Popmycherryyo]

You got to remember that this was also in a timeline where Leffen was "universally" hated/disliked. It was before he was as popular as he is now. He was THE villain of Melee, and he had also embraced that role. That's also definitely a reason the disstrack was liked as much as it was.

[@OmniNero]

Yeah, wasn't this the tournament where Leffen finally beat all 5 gods? Can't remember if this was the tourney or if it was 1-2 tournies back.

[@Qu1ntus_]

Yup. Everyone who hated Leffen wanted anyone to put him in his place.

[@daviddotorg]

Yeah, that's true. Now Leffen is like a hero for many people with the whole Salem beef.

[@daviddotorg]

@@Parpeing or it's called the absolute basics of storylines, which make up all competitive games? I'm not calling William Hjelte a hero. I'm calling Leffen a hero in the context of storylines, as you also have villains like Salem.

[@Phi792]

The diss track wasn't cringy, it was LEGENDARY

[@Phi792]

oh, you later on in the video kinda said it was amazing, sorry ;D

[@tongpoo8985]

I wish people had the balls to do stuff like that today. Need more testosterone in the fgc

[@nacho9155]

Just a reminder of the time Leffen tried to shit talk M2K then get's 6-0'd.

[@paytonperry1592]

Was that the one where M2K never played the same character twice.

[@amiZa-qs7yv]

@@paytonperry1592 It was when he played fox game 1 sheik games 2-4 and then marth 5-6

[@francislaurin816]

Fun fact : BEAST 5 - Leffen gets 4-stocked by Armada Paragon - Leffen and Armada 4-stock each other APEX 2015 - (We all know what happened) Pax Prime - Leffen gets 6-0d by M2K 2015 was a special year...

[@paytonperry1592]

@@francislaurin816 this does out a smile on my face

[@ballertheking1038]

@@francislaurin816 leffen didn’t 4 stock armada at paragon. He 4 stocked him at fc return.

[@WolfHunner]

Pretty poetic the most polarizing personality of the scene essentially became the Dark Knight years later.

[@FlamingZelda3]

He's basically vegeta

[@judeaberdeen6848]

Chillin took Leff to 5 games man that alone deserves respect.

[@tupatshakurtis5195]

I mean, it was a first to 5 soo

[@reginaldmeta2762]

LMFAOOO

[@dragonplayz6606]

Chillin is a god

[@B.Scruby]

Did you watch the video? I'm not sure if you're trolling. Lmao

[@chiyue5676]

it’s definitely a joke lmao

[@neapanther497]

Lots of smash content coming out. Only a matter of time before...

[@BaS12241]

i dont think the score will talk about the situation since it involves almost the entire comunity not only the top figures, this is bigger than just a single event

[@TheAssirra]

@@BaS12241 Normally they got after drama a plenty. Also it's more than the smash community. It's way way waaay bigger.

[@darriedizon2024]

Wait what incident?

[@wesleydm1999]

@@darriedizon2024 Oh you poor poor innocent soul.....

[@IulianCalinescu]

@@wesleydm1999 it sounds like you re sitting on some fire drama

[@ShinyWaffle101]

I see what you're doing ScoreEsports. Showing us all this positive Smash content amidst all that's happening in the Smash Community rn. I see yall 👀 Ty

[@vitordaltro6200]

not exactly positive cuz that game was just sad lol

[@wilsonshahzeb2]

What's happening?

[@dominicmcshane8149]

They proberly have a video on the back burner and dont want to rush out a 1 sided story

[@CiDK]

@@wilsonshahzeb2 a bunch of smash pro players is being accused of sexual assault

[@hujanmeteor]

@@CiDK whaaaaaaaaa

[@PlanetMarzz]

"Respect Your Elders" was the hottest track that year

[@ChamanConTenis]

This is the most embarrassing thing that has ever happened to the Smash Community... except, you know...

[@hoodie972]

oof

[@Isaac-xf3wt]

i don't know

[@AlessFD]

they smashing kids in game and real life

[@ApexGale]

that's not embarrassing. to call that embarrassing would be downplaying just how awful this entire thing was. call it disgusting. call it sickening. it was way more than just embarrassing my friends.

[@mr.pockets8523]

It's the entire FGC not just smash. And it's also going on in dota

[@AishasEmbrace]

"Chillin couldn't quite keep up" Proceeds to show three clips from games where he ended up losing to 3 of the FIVE GODS, aka the five best players Melee's ever had.

[@mlalbaitero]

I think thats what they mean, he was one of the best very early on but now he isn't. They also elaborate and then say "he wasn't that bad"

[@OsKarMike1306]

@@mlalbaitero He was hanging out with Gods, like Gordie Howe with fucking Gretzky and Lemieux. Sure, he was good but you can't compare that to the best

[@conradcooper2710]

Bro what?!!? Respect Your Elders is the opposite of cringe. Its legit fire, and has some deep cutting lines. Calling it boomer is simply dumb.

[@n4riko]

thank you thescore for blessing us with this.

[@ocarinalover1214]

well even if chillin isn't the best, now he's one of the most iconic commentators

[@chiyue5676]

ironic that you mention smash commentary right now :/

[@yaeven4943]

@@chiyue5676 That's not even what 'ironic' means.

[@BruhDN]

Mad respect to both players. They seemed to have a really good attitude about everything. And it made me laugh.

[@omega7654]

Respect your elders is actually fire

[@Phyco_Smash]

This is a great video! Great to document this story to newer melee players. Keep it up!

[@slowcookerhomeplanet]

Gigantic Leff is a role model now

[@drowzee110]

leff is a beast

[@pyrusvincent1029]

Huge Hjelte.

[@RasenRendanX]

his video after the drama that happened this week was magnificent.

[@LestaBan]

Gargantuan leff

[@spookie1024]

wumbo william

[@anmdragon36]

It wasn’t humiliating it’s just Two people trash talking and having fun. This isn’t real cringe

[@mewingcat22]

“He was a new breed of smasher”

[@6000hall]

One that didn't touch little kids

[@Valleybucker]

Heir 5 seeing chillin preform Respect Your Elders live is one my life memories i will forever hold dear.

[@gshot4878]

"Couldn't keep up with his peers" and shows clip playing against literal gods in the game T.T don't do my boy like that

[@twenty-fifth420]

Gary Rios I swear you lose to a god tier and the rest of the verse already dismisses you as shit. He can play better then most of us if we are being honest. Although that Leffen arc was still cringe. In all directions.

[@NeviTheLettyFan]

always happy to see more 5-0 in my life, it made Melee Hell such a legendary group to be part of

[@mokosensein]

Some rumours say that Leffen was actually listening Repsect your elders during the match

[@roan5250]

I'm extremely glad I've chanced upon this channel. This helped me alot with history lessons like this one. LMAO

[@Hugo_Prolovski]

It's 2020 and leffen is one of the greatest people in the whole community. Crazy times we live in.

[@ausar9775]

EVO 2020 in the cell?

[@calvino6949]

@Lawlzilla what are you talking about

[@woopi8003]

@Lawlzilla No LOL, 99.9% of the community is still around.

[@NoSmoke1]

Right...

[@KenSamaGomenasai]

He's a complete cancer

[@spearofdestinyfanboy]

The thing that cracked me up the most was that giant cut-out of Chillin

[@writinggoose6059]

Watched this right after seeing the video on Perfect Legend's 13-0. Comparing Chillin and PL's moments on the mic post-loss and the thought process behind them is like night and day. As bad as that whooping was, I gotta give respect to Chillin for his self-awareness.

[@blake3120]

Chillin is still awesome for doing it. No matter how cringe it was, it was still probably the single greatest moment in esports history for me. Seeing this happen live was truly a moment.

[@shadespenguin4854]

I loved how Leffen laughed after every single stock

[@Jabree]

Sonicfox 13-0’ing Perfect Legend is more humiliating.

[@ardaagaik9136]

Jabree perfect legend didn't write a distrack

[@jethprimero7565]

Arda Agaik dis

[@Jabree]

@@ardaagaik9136 No, he beefed with sonic for months. Which is worse.

[@ratkingjr.9560]

Ah yes, perfect 13gend

[@ardaagaik9136]

Jabree Beefing is normal, but speaking as if you have won garunteed in a distrack than getting 5-0’d is something else

[@ltzp2]

The implication that there was no bad blood when Leffen literally talked shit to Chillens sponsors for being so dumb as to chose him is stupid, Leffen was legitimately hated by many in those days and he even received bans from tournaments because of his toxic behavior (hence one of the jokes in the diss track ".zip")

[@payapeps57]

"Respect your Elders" is a certified Banger!!!! No matter if he got 5-0'd, it goes down in history.

[@VoidPlugger]

So glad this is getting more recognition

[@southjett8241]

i was waiting for this one

[@TAAB11]

i love chillin, hes one of the good ones

[@Trigzy12]

While I was watching, KZbin algorithm never fails, DrDisrespect Banned - recommended and then Respect Your Elders - recommended underneath it.

[@itzAsianFool]

I know this story inside and out but everytime I see content on it i always watch it LMAOO this storyline is LEGENDARY

[@zaizel8231]

came back to watch this after chillin’s stroke. hope he recovers well

[@BKnapp]

Haha I made the beat to the Leffen Diss track. Such a random and fun time. Led me to grow my following a bit and becoming friends with Chillin. I don't care what anyone says that shit is still fire lmao

[@RebelXRaven]

👊

[@RakaZet]

xd

[@Mmmeeee4]

Did you also help the Smash Cypher?

[@andrewfirth9858]

dude every time i hear the original star fox beat i just think of respect ya elders

[@misstahj5651]

Omega Sparx is dope. He recorded intro tracks for marvel vs capcom 3 finals at evo a couple of years in a row and all of them were hype

[@zipsnap]

As well as TJ's Theme in Killer Instinct, pretty sick

[@guffy3393]

Really love the melee content. Would love some more, so much to talk about

[@kirbosparent5863]

Respect your elders is fucking great, listening to it every day

[@GoodStarfish]

I vehemently contend that this isn't nor wasn't cringey. I respected both Leffen for enduring the abuse and going fwd w/ the suite, but also chillindude's commitment to a tounge and cheek vibe while still going all in made me laugh so hard I still come back to the rap with respect for my elders smirking all the while

[@GinkgoPete]

Chillin lost his composure completely after Game 1. He wasnt gonna win, but he he looked decent in G1. Amazing job cutting D1 out of the Leffen interview btw.

[@ActuallyReid]

Losing the close game 2 must have also been demoralizing

[@mike9574]

Leffen, we elect you to be our leader in light of the fall of others. This was actually an OG “epic gamer moment”

[@schmeat7609]

The best thing out of this entire debacle was the "have you seen this man" memes of chillin.

[@Tinfoiltomcat]

The diss track era of smash was LEGENDARY

[@dustdt]

OH MY GOD THEY MADE A VIDEO ON IT

[@yarielrobles9003]

It's a cherished tradition for some people to watch this set yearly

[@burgeranus5725]

This is the video I didn’t know I needed

[@jimtroeltsch5998]

haha "My B" is one of the most legendary ways to go down. Chillin is an absolute legend.

[@huhoyman]

Why you gotta bring this up again. My man's already dead 😭

[@andrewfirth9858]

respect your elder is a BANGER.

[@bug2e629]

I'm so glad you guys make these but you guys should do play breakdowns in like r6 DotA and esport games

[@dylanmadsen5079]

I knew this story was going to pop up on here sometime soon

[@ReclusiveEagle]

Think the worst part of all this was him drinking water from a 5L jug

[@charlesw7397]

If I'm remembering correctly, the first time this was heard was right before they played their Salty Suite match. Chillin didn't release it on youtube on the days leading up to the match, they played it in the venue right before the match so everyone in there was stunned

[@SwordSaint892]

I'm glad that by the time you finished the video, you recognized the light of "Respect Your Elders" and how hard that track goes.

[@turkeyman631]

Overwatch League can learn a thing or two from this video.

[@mr.wigglypiggly5153]

They showed him getting beat down by the gods LMFAOO

[@dabage553]

Apex 2015 Salty Suite was the greatest event to happen for Melee. Not only did you have the 5-0, You had the Bizzaro "EZ MONEY" Flame vs Eikelmann match. I don't think we'll have another event as iconic as that was.

[@paulfish97]

Thank you again for this relieving Smash Content in this particular time

[@zed95]

The disstrack was a masterpiece regardless of what happened after

[@connorpovey4995]

Sidenote: Omega Sparx is the same dude that rapped for TJ Combo's theme from the Killer Instinct reboot. Another Sidenote: Leffen's 5-0 is the definition of "OK BOOMER!"

[@tobimakkura]

Respect Your Elders still slaps to this day.

[@smug880]

these handshake accidents are the reason why i always leave people reaching for handshake/high fives hanging for a few seconds before responding to it

[@callmefool187]

I was there to see the Salty Suite at Apex 2015. Best night of my life. Cherry on top was the Leffen 5-0 😂 you can actually see me in the background behind chillen's head!

[@user-lq4ct6dr5m]

What better than watching a beat down in person

[@michaeldinh2449]

Remember watching this live, easily my "golden era" of Melee when i was rooting against Leffen every tourney just for him to win

[@KillzoneMD]

Im pretty sure that its impossible to hate Chillin. Such a legend

[@thelordoftheweebs9501]

Leffen is always getting bigger and bigger. At some point he's going to dynamax or go beyond and mega evolve. Definitely one of the best smash moments of history that will not be forgotten.

[@ssbuds3804]

nice timing with the smash video :)

[@lolislayer4944]

thats ultimate fam

[@burstpanther6352]

LMAO far from the most humiliating. Everyone knew he was the underdog with little to no chance of winning. It was an entertaining period of time though.

[@joshkolodziejczyk2795]

I didn't think this would be the topic for your next smash video

[@r3tro543]

This is not the smash news I was expecting but It’s a lot better then what I expected

[@Juggale]

"You have no idea how bad it's going to get." Bro... I watched this live. I know

[@NelsonA_]

But like as an amateur rapper, it was a pretty fire track lmfao especially given the age

[@JeromeAuChalet]

Loving the Melee videos as of late.

[@jackofblades6736]

Perfect Legend still holds the crown for this.

[@kaeganray]

"Terrible handshakes" Me: Oh, the didn't show Seagull's handshake Me 2 seconds later: Nvm

[@drowzee110]

I wish you guys were going to spread awareness about my community's situation man and make sure people don't get off scotfree!

[@ethanmcroy]

eekzvn there's a lot to unpack, and if they were to do anything reporting wise on it, they'd need to be thorough, unbiased, and accurate. All of which is hard this early on, with so many accusations. Some habe been fully fleshed out, but others are just here say.

[@drowzee110]

@@ethanmcroy I understand

[@MyAce8]

I feel like unfortunately the current situation isn't over yet. Maybe once everything has been out in the open for a bit they can make a video

[@drowzee110]

@@MyAce8 yea

[@judeaberdeen6848]

What's happening? Is there a Metoo movement going on like in Dota?

[@bobbybrine6547]

You should've shown his Part 2 to Respect Your Elders in the ultimate smash bros Cypher, he starts it off with "I'm still not lawful"

[@ClassicBentobox]

Honestly respect your elders is such a banger.

[@Persephone_07]

Most humiliating moment... looks like you forgot about Sonicfox’s 13-0 against Perfect Legend

[@yopeepthestyle8308]

P3rsephoneCH or Tokido vs Daigo 10-0

[@leggocrewtv2052]

Yoooo

[@leggocrewtv2052]

Both are 🔥

[@iepurele344]

Never played Smash Bros in my life, but I do love these videos about this game, which makes me to buy Smash Bros Ultimate on my switch, holy f that's a cool game :)

[@timberlande774]

I really wish you guys would make a video on the controversy in the smash scene right now because it’s a proper train wreck and some of us are so confused by it all

[@skipatrolslayer]

Apex 2015 was when I started watching Melee, and I remember watching this live when it happened. I had no idea about any of the build up to it or who any of the people were, but damn was it entertaining as hell to watch. My b.

[@GoldbondPowder]

This might be bad. It’s still no 13erfect Legend.

[@Nevermindkiba]

Perfect 13gend

[@Requiem100500]

Who tf is Leerfect Legend?

[@blazaybla22]

Your comment started strong but didn't quite stick the landing

[@blazaybla22]

Your comment started strong but didn't quite stick the landing

[@jagoony]

This guy's clearly isn't from the smash community, I say this cause he calls the smash doc "The Smash Brothers" nahhhh that's the smash doc my guy

[@RyanOnTheAir]

"Heat em up like grillin food" LMAO

[@sixsix4867]

5 years later and chillin dude is still seeing this XD let my man be LOL

[@Shinzogekai.]

Soo... who’s going to tell TheScore Esports about the latest smash news..?

[@Ms666slayer]

These videos are planed probably for weeks or months in advance, so how the hell they were going to know what the hell was going to happen in the future, I'm sure they are making a long video, because these is still ongoing and there age still some loose ends.

[@polishspy3088]

what happend? wasnt there like some sexhuel abuse allegations?

[@lerbyn]

@@polishspy3088 not just some there are like 50 people being accused for grooming, pedophilia, sexual assault, unwanted sexual messages online. I'm not sure how much is confirmed but its a shit show none the less

[@ulyssessigaran]

@@polishspy3088 apparently Nairo did some things and has came public to apologize and recognize it. I dont know anything else but I dont know why it should affect smash even the event planners made sure theres a hotline for anyone dealing with abuse and wants to make the tournaments safe for everyone

[@lerbyn]

@@Ms666slayer exactly no point in making a video on it now as a lot of the information isn't confirmed yet

[@10mike]

You forgot SonicFox vs Perfect Legend MM ft10 which ended up being 13-0.

[@moody5763]

I wasn't expecting that music video and Christ, I wasn't ready for that kind of pain. Went from hoping Leffen would get bodied to cheering for him real quick

[@Lampaluile]

Respect your elder was pure fire not even ironically