How a Helicopter Can Shoot Down an Airplane

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F-35 fighter pilot, previously flew the F-16, including 82 combat missions. In 2016 selected as the Top Instructor Pilot of the Year for Shaw AFB. Mission commander and the only fighter pilot to fly two different types of jets into combat on the same day.
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[@BlindIo42]

"We shoot them down by training to shoot them down." ... fascinating. So enlightening.

[@Just-Steve]

See those missiles on the wing tips. That's how. Now you know.

[@CohenRautenkranz]

Maybe give him a little break. He's flying an attack helicopter while being interviewed. There is a LOT going on that isn't apparent. And, yes, I have flown Cobras (AH-1W) and know what I am talking about.

[@BlindIo42]

@@CohenRautenkranz Not taking away from what he's doing, more questioning why this needs it's own video and why the title is clickbait BS.

[@danielch6662]

​@@CohenRautenkranz the sound insulation is really THAT good?

[@CohenRautenkranz]

@@danielch6662 Nope. They're actually very loud machines & insulation=weight. That is one reason the voices are so tinny sounding in most of the footage you see. There is a pretty narrow range of frequencies that the intercommunication system is designed to isolate. The first few times flying in a military helo can be quite a challenge until you get your helmet dialed in and get used to the lack of vocal depth. I recall the first time I flew in a Sikorsky S-76 executive model and the difference in noise is enormous.

[@tristandawson6417]

For those of you looking for an actual answer: the AH-1Z is the only US helicopter capable of carrying the AIM-9X Sidewinder (short-range) air-to-air missile. The Marines are also working on implementing the AMRAAM (long-range) air-to-air missile. The Viper interfaces with the F-35 through datalink. Through datalink, the F-35 can provide targeting and guidance for the missiles. Pretty cool stuff! In air combat, the Viper is basically a glorified F-35 sidekick/missile hauler

[@iOrbAlot]

I have an heavy armed SU-30 in my backyard

[@tinzalix8624]

AMRAAM is a medium range missile (it’s in the name)

[@zerofire3172]

I think the army put sidewinders and stingers on apaches once and they worked

[@snubbybinky4460]

The Apache is also capable of carrying air to air missiles, Israel and Koreas Apaches do it.

[@Galf506]

Here's the thing: missile effectiveness is directly linked to energy at launch: how fast you are and how high you are relative to the target. As y'all might imagine, a helicopter has neither, so best case scenario the range of their missiles is half the expected range. In any situation where there's fixed wing on the hunt for helicopters, the helicopter is either dead or running into hiding. You're not going to pick a fight. As operations in Ukraine showed, even though there the air warfare landscape is very different, but the threat density is too much for attack helicopters to operate without immense attrition so shooting down fixed wing is really only in the books as a desperate measure.

[@ZaphnathPanea]

These pilots give those most non answer doublespeak platitudes I've ever heard.

[@LionPride11241968]

No double speak here! The passenger asked a vague, and general question:"You guys do air to air stuff, right?" The pilot answered the question from the most Top Down, General, and Vague way possible.

[@oneaboveall1895]

ur not useed to working with men on this lvl ur probably a cubical guy who hates life

[@cefb8923]

​​@@LionPride11241968It's not even vague per se, it's like they're just conversating. Like you expect him to go into a 15 minute rant to another pilot about how they run their air to air training program? People who have conversations like that are the worst, if the guy wants to know more he'll just ask for specifics. Explaining in the comments how having a conversation with an actual human being in person and not over the computer and why he couldn't explain air to air combat in a 30 second YT short. Lol

[@geofreak75]

​@@LionPride11241968the passenger is Hasard Lee, an F-35 pilot and poster of this video

[@user-rf8ri7cr5l]

God help you if the wings can fold

[@adamkirkland4348]

That’s not how it can shoot down an airplane. It’s just explaining that it can and they train for it.

[@Austin-cx2xe]

Well most people already know how it can, the same way any aircraft shoots down another one. The difference is most helicopters don’t have the technology capable of adopting air to air missiles, pretty sure those are AIM-9s on his wing tips.

[@Marauder_66]

@@Austin-cx2xesemi-active or active radar missiles on a viper or apache would be damn scary though

[@JonTietz]

"Can" is a strong word here. I'm not sure there's EVER been a recorded ATA against a fixed wing aircraft for any attack helicopter. Against other helicopters? Absolutely. The "how to defend ourselves from that" is to call your buddy in the F35.

[@lordjake2350]

​@@Austin-cx2xe the apatche can carry stingers or mistrals

[@lordjake2350]

​@@JonTietz j catch read the Wikipedia J-CATCH, short for Joint Countering Attack Helicopter, was a joint US Army-US Air Force experiment in dissimilar air combat between jet fighters and attack helicopters, conducted in 1978/79. To the surprise of many involved in the program, the helicopters proved extremely dangerous to the fighters when they were properly employed, racking up a 5-to-1 kill ratio over the fighters when fighting at close ranges with guns.

[@johnstanderfer3692]

“If the wings are moving faster than the plane it’s a helicopter.”

[@arpit5042]

i am mentally stable, hey look a civilian airline

[@pigmoonk2545]

Helicopters can shoot down fighters. Red Flag has shown that already

[@thrash208]

I COULD happen but chances are the helecopter is dead before he can even see the plane

[@pigmoonk2545]

@@thrash208 only the most modern fighters can do so.

[@Galf506]

​@@pigmoonk2545not really. You've got troops on the ground telling you where the helicopter is, you can get a shot off before the helicopter is even remotely in range.

[@pigmoonk2545]

@@Galf506 That is so theoretical. The fighter cant even find the helicopter on radar. They have to visually identify. Good luck when you are flying even at 5000ft. Gosh you are noob

[@nahuelleandroarroyo]

​@@pigmoonk2545why would the plane be unable to detect and track a helo? A helicopter is easier to detect than a ground vehicle because it still has to hover away from rhe ground. You have radars that can pick and track SUV sized signals on planes with ground attack packages

[@MatthewBKR]

Proceeds to not explain any of the ways a helicopter can shoot down an airplane 😂

[@rossgudwer3538]

I would imagine that's because they want to keep that information as private as they can.

[@MatthewBKR]

@@rossgudwer3538 then don’t make videos about it 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@rossgudwer3538]

@@MatthewBKR I'll make sure to pass that information along to the right people 😂

[@LionPride11241968]

A vague question, deserves a vague, top down answer. "You guys do air to air stuff, right?"

[@MatthewBKR]

@@LionPride11241968 right, because my professors and colleagues always expect vague answers for broad questions… your logic is that of a hillbilly that hates reading and talking.

[@nickthompson2023]

“Here’s how helicopters shoot down jets:” Video: says absolutely nothing about how they actually shoot them down

[@nightswitchmusic]

yeah its a short not a long form vid what do you expect...

[@damndirtyrandy7721]

Also you didn’t notice the air-to-air missile on the pylon over their shoulders, did you? It’s absolutely amazing how some motherfuckers will find something to criticize and whine about in anything. Short vid? You didn’t give enough info! 😢 long vid? It’s too long just tell me the answer. 😩 People like you must be a blast at parties! 😂😂😂😂

[@Of_Your_Volition]

Now I’m curious to see AH-64 Apache vs SU-57 Felon in real life rather than just the dcs one

[@shikinami0297]

A experimental jet vs a attack helicopter yeah sure Why not a mi-28 instead don’t be weird

[@Of_Your_Volition]

@@shikinami0297 for context to what I said some guy asked Growling Sidewinder (quite the popular DCS youtuber) for a while to do su-57 vs ah-64 and after hundreds of days asking the youtuber finally did it and it was as you might expect but fun to watch. In conclusion its fun to think and though unlikely anything is possible but for the most part just fun to think about.

[@marktimmer2212]

Apache doesnt carry aim9s

[@Of_Your_Volition]

@@marktimmer2212 AIM-92 Stinger

[@marktimmer2212]

@@Of_Your_Volition Yes and the aim-9 , spoke before my turn.

[@xlfrostyy6274]

these videos are giving me so much info. recently been thinking of joining the airforce and as much as I'm passionate about aviation the danger is great so thank you for ur service

[@jamesnolanrenehan]

I read your book and loved it which lead me to this channel, I have loved Thai content just as much. Keep up the great work!

[@PabloGonzalez-hv3td]

Funny to think that this pilot fears a flock of birds more than a flight of fighter jets 😂

[@jaywomer2313]

Ahh the art of giving a comprehensive answer without giving any information. This man is a real american. A rare breed

[@terrywags982]

That pilot is a badass glad he’s on our side

[@Ticklestein]

“Here’s **how** a helicopter…” Proceeds to explain that it **can** do it, just not **how** .

[@091461]

“Here’s how a helicopter can shoot down an airplane “. I’m glad I didn’t hold my breath until you told me.

[@KrisRogers-ue3nu]

AH-1Z Viper reigns king

[@patrickflesner526]

That helmet is probably worth more than my car.

[@nightswitchmusic]

f-35 helmets go for like 400k= lmfao

[@skipssmn3754]

Thanks to this short i was easily able to understand and execute the tactics required to shoot down an airplane with a helicopter. Most consice explanation I've seen on the topic to date.

[@occamsrayzor7999]

There was an article a few years back of how US Army helicopters gave the USAF a headache in an exercise in the early 80s after the Army made them realize how extremely vulnerable their planes were to Heli-launched sidewinders.

[@OriginalSniperLol]

That helmet is a beauty

[@LionPride11241968]

A vague question, deserves a vague, top down answer. "You guys do air to air stuff, right?"

[@user-pj3ch8ou2h]

How did Hasard, being an Air Force F-16 pilot, get to fly the USMC AH-1Z Viper?

[@Jfhstin]

I believe he was just riding along, not sure though

[@TheGoddamnBacon]

A Viper pilot in a Viper. Who'd have thunk it?

[@user-pj3ch8ou2h]

@@Jfhstin I believe just to ride on the front seat of a 2 seater attack helicopter for someone not trained in it is not allowed by the military. I recall watching a program on History Channel where the late Gunny Erny E. Lee was showcasing the Army Apache AH-64D. He said he could only watch on the ground because he was not clear to fly in it.

[@MrElis420]

Because he's not flying it? Lmao. Jesus.

[@andywilliams4942]

​@user-pj3ch8ou2h I flew front seat in an AH-1W about 20 years ago. I actually had a little bit of stick time too.

[@tristanbentz224]

If you look at the winglets you can see sidewinders

[@JakeRobb]

“Here’s how…” I’m still waiting for the HOW.

[@tacticalra1nbow956]

For those of you looking for an actual answer: Helicopters like this will be easily detected by Dopler-radar and shotdowned

[@A-10isG.O.A.T.]

So in the Apache if a missile hits you can you get out before the helicopter crashes?

[@Asethet]

Reminds me of that guy in 2005 that shot down two F-16's with a Hind D.

[@ryosukekaneshiro]

Says this is how helicopters shoot down airplane; doesn't show how helicopters shoot down Anything

[@johnreynolds1527]

Theirs a reason the AH-1Z Viper has AIM 9X Sidewinders on it.

[@connordarkwiseriver]

It’s pretty much the same as how planes down other planes, missiles that lock on to their target, if that’s sidewinders or it’s Aim-7 sparrows, they are made to 🔐 n and disable enemy aircraft, shift from a helicopter or a jet, pretty much no different other than starting altitude and flying speeds

[@ziepex7009]

Do you not see the aim9-m on the left and right pylon?

[@AGeneral_Nuisance]

The problem is that you don't even see aircraft thats firing at you. The missile is being fired from 200-300km away.

[@sorincaladera936]

No it isn't, at those ranges the FCR would be behind the curvature

[@stealthstargamer]

Literally my dream helicopter to fly

[@Shawn-wd4qd]

The Cobra/AH-1Z Viper is an awesome helicopter. I had the privilege to build parts for it for almost 30 years.

[@stealthstargamer]

@@Shawn-wd4qd that’s awesome. I heard that the Ah-1z shares many parts with the Uh-1 variants, another reason why it’s so reliable

[@Shawn-wd4qd]

@@stealthstargamer Yeah, the biggest variant is that the rotor blades can fit on both the Huey & Viper.

[@stealthstargamer]

@@Shawn-wd4qd there is no reason to hate this helicopter ❤️

[@Shawn-wd4qd]

@@stealthstargamer i love it

[@phillp7777]

Welll.... we're waiting ....

[@davidfinley6708]

My dad got into dogfights over Vietnam in his apache. He retired as a helicopter commander

[@jacobelmer31]

Got the most respect for helicopter pilots like this. The combat footage from these units is fucking insane.

[@ABs70nova]

Absolutely a chopper could take out an enemy aircraft. But being a chopper pilot id be more concerned with shoulder launched anti-air missiles that can come out of nowhere

[@shiny4984]

a missile is a missile, on a fixed-wing plane, on a helicopter, ground launcher, ship, doesn't matter, it's just as capable as every other platform it's stated in

[@zahiremanuel9954]

F22 vs apache would last however long it takes the missile to reach it 🤣

[@skipssmn3754]

If fired upon my an f22 at any range the manual states: land as quickly as POSSIBLE not practicable and disembark from the vehicle as fast as you can and run in the most logical direction to get you as far away from that helo as possible. This is bold face and must be committed to memory.

[@Ramash440]

Shooting down a fighter with a gunship is easy: you just need to be born with Big Boss' genes and get trained by the SAS.

[@salami7323]

this is some crazy dcs gameplay

[@idk34484]

How do you fight a plane like a su-27

[@AnyPerson-my8pe]

This is off-topic but I wanted to say, Congratulations on your book!

[@christianalleman5511]

Can you make a video about your time at the Air Force academy and all the steps you took to being accepted please.

[@HTGDominator]

Hey Bill, pls do a movie with Louie

[@keiwinnmitchell3212]

That really explains a lot…

[@siiioxide]

what's the cost of 50 fpv drones vs the cost of an attack chopper? (and 2 pilots)

[@jorgealbertorodriguezvilla8773]

Tengo entendido que los pilotos están sentados atrás mi pregunta es que tan difícil es volar un helicóptero si la visibilidad es limitada según veo en el vídeo?

[@mastermansur]

“Here’s how I waste your time” there fixed it for you

[@aaronsanchez1779]

Never ever underestimate what a Marine can do with his weapon! You WIIL lose!

[@omarjassar4650]

What protection does the rear rotor have ??

[@user-km2os3ru6m]

Wow nice insight…

[@SuiLagadema]

"Wait, why is there a plane on your tally?" - Well, an SU-35 came a little too close and we shoot him down (casually walks away lighting a cigar).

[@bryonslatten3147]

Apaches have been able to use Stinger missiles for about 30 years.

[@ndynyanatedenery1324]

All talk no Action. Damn

[@scalpingthebuddha]

Didn't know Ben Affleck was a helicopter pilot in real life 👀

[@yusfifarkhan6714]

with missile of course

[@Opurator_prime]

Ah-1z have aim 9 aa missiles Ah-64 has stinger missiles

[@Caymann_bs]

I got your book, it’s a good book. Great job

[@devo1977s]

So what he meant to say was they use missiles, missiles shoot down a plane

[@Ohfiveeightteen]

Not always, gunfights do happen, although rare.

[@kmelliza]

What if you're dealing with an MRF and youre on the sea?

[@kingjohan1335]

There has never been a single documented helicopter on helicopter dog fight ever recorded

[@scottpeters9911]

In the spirt of “Training” was the explanation that I heard from a few Cobra Pilots when the “tactical maneuver” exercise was over.., this was indeed helo vs. helo dogfighting & fairly common as long as you’re out there burning fuel you need to maximize the training syllabus to increase pilot efficiency and warrior mentality. These were the ‘80’s & Blue Thunder movie was fresh out of Hollywood. A “real” dogfight with live weapons.., NO.., but a simple series of simulated aerial combat “ambushes”& “escapes”occasionally.

[@arielrocks91]

Whats the light on his chest?

[@cathycooke1240]

My man is taking a video in a AH-1Z💀

[@lifeisgood070]

I'm just really curious how quickly you can change the velocity of that big blade up top. I just imagine a helicopter in general has a significantly slower response rate than a fighter jet

[@Just-Steve]

Has nothing to do with it. It's the pitch or the blades, not the rotation speed. And as far as speed goes, it's as fast as you can move your arms.

[@blindsey8234]

Pipedream.

[@trailingrails9953]

Nah, these AIM-9’s are just so we look cool.

[@Mountain-Man-3000]

**Laughs in F-35**

[@robwernet9609]

He's got aim 9s on the pylons

[@inksashawn]

Helmet is hilarious

[@jhonm6347]

this don't answer shit but that's just the regular youtube experience.

[@pesetamaya3509]

How do you get out of that helicopter aircraft if you get shot down?

[@ethanm4102]

If 22 or F 35, you never see it coming

[@TechDelta13]

Easy pickings for an F16

[@orlock20]

J-Catch said no. If both the helicopter is low and the F-16 is low because of SAMs, ground clutter can get in the way. With a mast mounted optical or radar dome, the helicopter can see the whole F-16 and the F-16 at best can see the mast. That's if the F-16 spots the mast while looking at all the ground clutter.

[@choctawriverlife194]

Ukraine: FPV USA:👀 👃 👄

[@batbensam5794]

What's the story behind your callsign "monster"

[@EthanBSide]

Sidewinders are dangerous.

[@lolitabdeleon3658]

Salute ❤

[@FMJIRISH]

This is some cyberpunk shit

[@user-nf9dq7ul6j]

That’s cool thank you

[@user-nf9dq7ul6j]

Can you say helicopter supposed to be classified

[@ivanivanovich5904]

defend yourself from an FPV drone...

[@GrimYak]

Still waiting for the how....

[@bxnr_]

Is it hella cramped in that cockpit?

[@zijie-he]

How?

[@jakelance6]

You literally told us nothing about how a helicopter can shoot down an airplane😂😂😂

[@TankEnMate]

Yes, but can it shoot down HIMARS?

[@adamr67]

So, how?

[@fightforaglobalfirstamendm5617]

MANPAD food.

[@cowshark1232]

I was the first to comment!!!! Love your videos

[@dan.p.8060]

Wow lol. Congrats. Phone your family and tell them what you’ve accomplished.

[@DanishWarThunderPlayer503]

Well for some of you who didn’t notice that on the tip of the wings are placed 1 aim-9 air to air missile on each wing🗿

[@1204dano]

So wait…. No fire balls, ejection seats. Meh.

[@Tampertownmediagroup]

Interesting

[@rwfwcfii439]

OK. How?

[@Houndini]

Sorry but that’s a pretty dumb question? Armed Forces Helicopters been armed from the 1st pilot set in 1 with a pistol of course they are.

[@BRUNO1974]

Can you shoot down any incoming air threats??

[@Ohfiveeightteen]

If you have the proper defensive tools, then yes.

[@lordcarnage5199]

deadliest....so I guess the V 280 Valor no good or the RAH 66 Comanche (use to be)AH- 64E longbow not mean enough? or AC 130 gunship "the angel of death" 🤔

[@nbaalltheway]

Wheres the how?

[@OverCAT83]

so they can't fight the Tomcat?

[@brumph7256]

Focus on the ground and let the planes fight the planes….

[@lordsiomai]

I like the part where it was explained

[@UnCuntained]

Warthunder already taught us this tho.