How A.I. Just Changed Vocal Tuning Forever (ft. Audimee)

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SonicScoop

SonicScoop

9 күн бұрын

Vocal Tuning has just changed forever because of A.I.... But how? Can A.I. actually make vocal tuning more human? More natural? Will it replace good singers, or make them more creative?
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@SonicScoop
@SonicScoop 5 күн бұрын
Dear people who are commenting before watching the video! 😄No, this is not about pitch correction, and it is not about generating vocals from text and MIDI. It's also not about simply tuning a vocal and then running it through a voice changer. (That is all old tech at this point.) This video is about being able to radically reharmonize good vocal performances without tuning artifacts. I also understand that some people believe that AI is going to destroy the world. Got it. While the chance of this occurring is not 0%, the world will probably not be destroyed by a vocal processor that allows you to reharmonize vocals and change their timbre. Take a breath, people! (At least that percentage of people who are feverishly commenting before watching the video or understanding what it’s about.) To everyone else: thanks for watching! I love having you here 😊 Also: if you like what you see, and want to subscribe, you can get a 20% discount at audimee.com with coupon code SonicScoop Thanks to those guys for supporting the channel. I wouldn’t accept support from just any AI company. Only those whose tools I think actually be used in interesting, ethical, and creative ways. There have been many requests, and only two I have accepted. And the two that I have accepted are much more creative enhancement tools for actual musicians, rather than tools that seek to replace musicians. I’m not interested in the latter. I’m interested in tools that allow creative, musical people to be more creative and more musical.
@aaroncampmusic
@aaroncampmusic 5 күн бұрын
"While the chance of this occurring is not 0%, the world will probably not be destroyed by a vocal processor that allows you to reharmonize vocals and change their timbre." But imagine if it did. That is one heck of a dystopian movie idea. Move over, Idiocracy!
@GizzyDillespee
@GizzyDillespee 5 күн бұрын
You DO know everyone uses melodyne (aka "the pitch editor) before using voice changers, right?
@SonicScoop
@SonicScoop 5 күн бұрын
@@GizzyDillespee Right, but the whole point is that this is NOT THAT. This is not pitching a vocal by a 5th, or a 9th, getting weird tuning artifacts and then running it through a voice changer with those artifacts, where you will get an output with artifacts, based on an input with tuning artifacts. Instead, the tuner interacts with the voice changer. Instead of pitching the vocal and running the artifacted version through the voice changer, you effectively have a tool that is *telling the voice changer to sing a different note*. VERY different, in both premise and result. I get that this shift is subtle enough to miss the concept the first time you hear about it, but it is significant. It's what seems like a small change that has BIG implications, I think. I hope that helps! -Justin
@erictaylor687
@erictaylor687 5 күн бұрын
Wait... We're expected to watch the video before forming an opinion? This reeks of common sense and reason. Ha. Great video.
@simonj.1812
@simonj.1812 6 күн бұрын
The difference between AI and musicians is that AI may be able to find out a way to make money at music 😃
@SonicScoop
@SonicScoop 6 күн бұрын
🤣 BEST. COMMENT. AWARD.
@DerekJohn
@DerekJohn 5 күн бұрын
You just hit a lot of people, pow right in the kisser, of their soul… 😂
@X-Lightz
@X-Lightz 6 күн бұрын
That‘s incredible! Thanks! ❤
@AVDRE
@AVDRE 7 күн бұрын
Very good demonstration. Thanks!
@anuragdixit473
@anuragdixit473 6 күн бұрын
Thanks for sharing this, really appreciate!
@LivioVolpe
@LivioVolpe 6 күн бұрын
I've been getting tons of vocal editing/cleanup gigs for the past 5 years or so.. this thing is an absolute game changer. The point your brought up about harmonies is very true. It's very common to get vocals that the singer didn't record extra harmonies for it, so we need to create fake harmonies using his lead vocals. These rarely sound good, especially in more organic contexts. Can't wait to try this out.
@shawnhsu
@shawnhsu 6 күн бұрын
Excellent video, thanks so much! This piece of software and similar ones can make good singers even more valuable, which is a great thing.
@TokyoSpeirs
@TokyoSpeirs 3 күн бұрын
I’ve been chatting with Signe, one of the co-founders of Audimee, about this melodyne(ish) feature and its future uses. They have a lot planned and it’s exciting to see what the potential is for vocal editing and similar workflows going forward. Everything is a tool.
@OfficialStevenCravis
@OfficialStevenCravis 6 күн бұрын
People good at scat singing will have a blast converting their voice to woodwind or brass!
@SonicScoop
@SonicScoop 6 күн бұрын
For sure!
@Deezgotbeats
@Deezgotbeats 2 күн бұрын
If we start looking at Ai as a tool rather than competition. I think we could really benefit from it. There’s Ofcourse people who may use it as a crutch, but if you’re an artist who sharpens their sword. This adds to the arsenal of tools to create . Especially if you’re independent.
@hannahbackward
@hannahbackward Күн бұрын
There is a lot of music out there. I think it may increase. I can’t wait to hear it all
@nurd_afrikhan
@nurd_afrikhan 7 күн бұрын
YOUR ON TO SOMETHING GREAT
@alexandregoncalves7554
@alexandregoncalves7554 7 күн бұрын
Sample based tunning is the thing!! Could be great to clone a voice recorded to fix some problems also.
@Mrlogic10
@Mrlogic10 6 күн бұрын
very important video!
@delmixedit
@delmixedit 6 күн бұрын
Wild stuff
@sinewaves1631
@sinewaves1631 6 күн бұрын
How many layers did you have in the most natural examples? And what intervals did you do? Thx
@philippgrunert8776
@philippgrunert8776 5 күн бұрын
Sick, in a positive way
@happyshadow
@happyshadow 22 сағат бұрын
when an ai algorithm can prevent the phasing when stacking altered versions of the same take, THAT will be amazing.
@SonicScoop
@SonicScoop 18 сағат бұрын
This can do that. You just have to use different voices or different notes. Phasing is not possible in that context. -Justin
@OfficialStevenCravis
@OfficialStevenCravis 6 күн бұрын
Up to what resolution (bit and sample rate) audio can it handle and output? Over KZbin, for some reason the in-Pro Tools example these are sounding almost like 64kbps mp3.
@AboutToneAudioTuts
@AboutToneAudioTuts 6 күн бұрын
the free version oly gives mp3 downloads--sorry if that's not what you were talking about
@sinewaves1631
@sinewaves1631 6 күн бұрын
The tuning window runs low res FYI
@jumpbackgeno
@jumpbackgeno 7 күн бұрын
Ive used this due to not having a singer anymore, so I sing then use melodyne to tune then send to Audime for a real voice, and getting pretty cool results, haha fun to do, thanks JC..
@svensvensson8102
@svensvensson8102 7 күн бұрын
Yeah, its super useful, at least for sketching. I think they recommend not tuning before upload though.
@kojoefante
@kojoefante 6 күн бұрын
So you’re not a real artist but want to be ?
@svensvensson8102
@svensvensson8102 6 күн бұрын
@@kojoefante What are you on about, what's your purpose?
@buddyalbert5808
@buddyalbert5808 6 күн бұрын
Use it or don’t. It’s your own decision.
@carlos-ni4hn
@carlos-ni4hn 6 күн бұрын
hey justinnn already waiting for this year's mixing master classes, who will we have this year? Do you know if Jason Chesse will be there? Could you contact a sponsor for the
@SonicScoop
@SonicScoop 6 күн бұрын
I’m working on it. I think we are close to having him locked in.
@carlos-ni4hn
@carlos-ni4hn 5 күн бұрын
@@SonicScoop Well Justin, I know you're going to get it!!
@LetoBeats
@LetoBeats Күн бұрын
Wow! Now let’s get this website converted to a plugin 😮
@LetoBeats
@LetoBeats Күн бұрын
Wait I made it to the part of the video where you discuss this lol that makes perfect sense.
@fivebyfivesound
@fivebyfivesound 7 күн бұрын
And this was created the kazoozaphone 😎
@philipkarst7918
@philipkarst7918 6 күн бұрын
Can you import a roomy voice and get it clean, the same voice?
@SonicScoop
@SonicScoop 6 күн бұрын
YES. That said, if there are excessive effects or roominess there could be some artifacts in how occasional consonants come across. But within reason, absolutely. Even with occasional subtle artifacts around consonants from very poor recordings, I think it’s still more than sufficient for background vocal harmonies. But if the original recording is really bad, it may not be suitable for leads. -Justin
@straighttrippingmusic
@straighttrippingmusic 6 күн бұрын
Once its affordable it might be fun to try. ;)
@SonicScoop
@SonicScoop 5 күн бұрын
It is. There is also a totally free version that you can use. There’s just a limitation on how much you can use it in a month.
@derekauth157
@derekauth157 3 күн бұрын
I’m waiting for a plugin or service where AI can pitch correct in real time for live vocals
@bryanunderwood
@bryanunderwood 6 күн бұрын
If you’re using the exact same take to create stacks, wouldn’t it have phase issues because the timing is too perfect? I’ve used Audimee and ran into a lot of phase problems.
@SonicScoop
@SonicScoop 6 күн бұрын
No, you would not run into phase issues, because it’s a totally different note. More than that, it’s a voice model of a singer singing a totally different note. So the whole timbre changes too. The only potential problem is that the timing could be too accurate to sound natural. So you may want to shift the timing. I guess that the inflection might still sound too much the same... So if you want it to be even more natural still, do more than one take, and then reharmonize your second take. To hear the most unnatural version of this, just listen to the first harmony example. It sounds good. No phase issue. It just doesn’t sound realistic. It sounds kind of like a “vocal organ”. To hear a more natural version, listen to the second harmonized example. -Justin
@lexingtonsmp
@lexingtonsmp 6 күн бұрын
Does it create phasing issues if you use one vocal take but expressed in 10 different tunings?
@SonicScoop
@SonicScoop 6 күн бұрын
No, it would not, and should not In the first harmony example, you can hear exactly the effect that would have. It sounds a little bit like a voice organ. No phasing, but not incredibly “realistic”. A cool sound, just not natural. Using multiple voice models for harmony would be my recommended used case here. And if you want things to sound even more natural human, you might want to shift the take slightly in time. Or do multiple takes of the same line. I hope that helps! -Justin
@sinewaves1631
@sinewaves1631 6 күн бұрын
@@SonicScoop when I tried it phasing was a huge issue…?
@davidbachy5627
@davidbachy5627 6 күн бұрын
This is already widely available using an RTX4090 graphics card using RVC along with Replay, then tweaking in Melodyne.
@SonicScoop
@SonicScoop 5 күн бұрын
No, this is incorrect. Applying tuning to the output of a voice model is nowhere near the same as telling the voice model to sing a different note. It’s also not the same as simply tuning a vocal, and then inputting it into a voice model. That’s not what this is. That’s why it is new and different and interesting. Please watch the video before commenting 😁
@tommyapocalypse6096
@tommyapocalypse6096 7 күн бұрын
I'm not worried. If AI does vocals like AI creates "art"... then our vocals will sound like Alvin and the Chipmunks getting strangled, underwater, as recorded by a lifelong mute, whose first language is not English, on a bad peyote trip. lol Seriously, though, I have high hopes for AI as a tool (not a replacement), but I am (clearly) skeptical at this point in time.
@lukehauser1182
@lukehauser1182 7 күн бұрын
Alvin getting strangled underwater etc - I think you've hit upon it!
@SonicScoop
@SonicScoop 6 күн бұрын
I too, am not worried about AI artists replacing real artists. AI generated art generally makes me nauseous. This is not that though. At all. You might be more concerned about text and MIDI to speech synthesizers. But this is not that either. This technology takes a real actual vocal, recorded by a real actual living human artist…. …Then it allows you to re-harmonize that real human performance, and them morph the original voice into other types of voice sounds, or even instrument sounds. This is AI reshaping of real human performances. It is not an AI performer. -Justin
@ckatheman
@ckatheman Күн бұрын
I would classify this as advanced DSP not AI….
@mohanshiva_musical
@mohanshiva_musical 3 күн бұрын
Al software download link pls
@SonicScoop
@SonicScoop 3 күн бұрын
https:/:audimee.com but it’s browser based because it has to connect to cloud computing. It’s not a download.
@N8oRMusic
@N8oRMusic 6 күн бұрын
I can't wait to work with non-existing musicians.
@SonicScoop
@SonicScoop 6 күн бұрын
This isn’t exactly that. This is taking the performance of a real musician, and re-harmonizing that performance, and/or changing the texture of the voice to a different voice, or even a different instrument. -Justin
@DiegoCauliflower
@DiegoCauliflower 7 күн бұрын
I would use if it was a plugin and not a subscription.
@dickdanson
@dickdanson 6 күн бұрын
Yeah thats a deal breaker imo
@SonicScoop
@SonicScoop 6 күн бұрын
It could become a plug in. But at the current time, it would have to be a subscription. Unless you have a supercomputer in your house, that could run the AI! Years in the future, it could probably run natively. But home computers just aren’t that powerful yet. -Justin
@dickdanson
@dickdanson 6 күн бұрын
@SonicScoop even if it's a website, it could have a perpetual license and not be a subscription. It could also be a standalone software that links to the cloud, but isnt in your web browser
@michaelmos7497
@michaelmos7497 3 күн бұрын
In the video, Justin explained very clearly why it is currently almost impossible to use this AI functionality on your own home computer with your DAW 😅. Maybe it will be possible in two, three or four years, provided you have the necessary cash to buy such a powerful computer...😉
@paddyboy207
@paddyboy207 6 күн бұрын
Well, is it a good idea to feed samples of your voice, your singers and instrumental parts to some AI startup? If you have customer artists, do you need an extra signature to give their data to a company for free? And as the current court cases with musical AI companies show, once they got your samples, they'll just keep and use them however they like. And they are pretty safe, as it's close to impossible to prove it later. Apart from that, those big warehouse size AI computer centers burn energy like small cities, for small convieniences like this. All the big AI players have dumped their energy efficiency and climate targets as their power consumption skyrockets. No amount of greenwashing can save them, fossil power is meeting the extra demand in the power grid... Never mind climate change, heat domes, just turn up the AC!
@SonicScoop
@SonicScoop 6 күн бұрын
A good set of questions on the legal issues. That’s definitely something to look into. I’m not sure what the terms of use are. I don’t think it’s like a social media company, where they claim partial ownership to your creations. But definitely go ahead and read the fine print! The last part about power consumption I can’t help you with. There are all sorts of ways to get power, some of which are cleaner than others. There are extremely clean ways to get power, like nuclear, that people are afraid of-often somewhat irrationally. And, there are dirtier ways to get power, like fossil fuels, that allow energy to be inexpensive so that human standards of living can rise-especially in the most impoverished places. There are clean forms of energy that are intermittent, like solar and wind… Which also have an untold carbon footprint and environmental impact per kilowatt hour that come just from building them. There are clean forms of energy like hydroelectric that are pretty cool, but aren’t available everywhere, and sometimes wreak havoc on natural habitats around them. Then there is the question of whether or not fossil fuels are one of the only things preventing us from entering into another glacial period in our current Ice Age! …for which we are a bit overdue already. (We are currently in an interglacial period of an ice age. And glacial periods of ice ages are way scarier for humanity than moderate warming! The earth has recently been warming-and greening-which is arguably better than freezing.) All of that is probably above both our pay grades! But it is an interesting conversation, and one in which there is rarely sufficient nuance in context, as there are so many vested interests at play. Yes, data centers use power. But the cost of that power usage are distributed among tens of thousands or even millions of users. If they weren’t power efficient relative to the value that they put out, they wouldn’t be economical to use. There are cleaner and dirtier types of power people can use. But people tend to use whatever amount of power is economical for them to use. What they use it on, and how it is produced, is another set of questions. I don’t have much control over that part myself.
@layfield42500
@layfield42500 6 күн бұрын
Instrument resynthesis from a voice or anything inside a daw is already possible in real-time. Not the vocal tuning stuff or voice changing into another human voice. But making it into drums or a sax is possible with a software called neutone. They have two plugins that have neutone fx and neutone morpho. Really cool stuff with the vocal tuning tho! Especially if it can retune your own voice to hit higher octaves then you sang in the recording of it just does it with their own model of voices. It’s still cool but not as useful but we’re definitely on the edge of great stuff
@SonicScoop
@SonicScoop 6 күн бұрын
I think the earlier versions from other companies you are referring to are a little different. They are going to extract midi notation from a monophonic performance, and then use that midi notation to trigger some other type of instrument. This is different. It preserves the exact original inflection, timing and pitch of the original performance. It’s not converting to MIDI at any point. It’s kind of adjacent, but not the same thing at all in process or result. It definitely allows things that couldn’t be done before. I don’t think that Neutone is doing quite this at all. I hope that helps make sense of it! -Justin
@layfield42500
@layfield42500 5 күн бұрын
@@SonicScoop Video describing what it does: kzbin.info/www/bejne/o4C3hoGCaL2Cp9Usi=E9YcxonjFrdeMqdf It’s def reacting to your voice not midi What your describing sounds like dubler 2 More examples: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eXqaaqSkqNl5hJIsi=8kdAFdLxXdl7iUAy
@kelvynification
@kelvynification 6 күн бұрын
Talk about a short sighted point of view!!!!! Composers, sound designers, vocalists, graphic designers, film makers etc whose livelihoods depend on clients paying for their work are soon going to be jobless. THATS THE FUTURE! Advertisers are going to embrace with open arms AI. Only those with an extremely innovative and super creative mindset will survive… the problem there is that we live in times where the general publics taste tend towards the lowest common denominator generic. The cake didn’t just get smaller… it’s almost disappeared. Think a little wider and you will see that there will be very serous consequences if governments and corporations don’t do something to stem the AI tsunami that is rolling towards us. This is not fear mongering but reality.
@SonicScoop
@SonicScoop 6 күн бұрын
“98% of people work on farms! Embracing tractors is shortsighted of you! It will put all those farmers out of work! Only extremely innovative and super creative farmers will survive!” We literally went from a world where 98% of people work in agriculture, to a world where 2% of people work in agriculture. And there are is more food and more jobs than ever. Also: AI mastering has been around for like a decade now, and yet I book more and more mastering clients each and every year without really even trying to. This is in part because more people are making recorded music than ever before, thanks to technology that “put people in studios out of work”. -Justin
@wietzejohanneskrikke1910
@wietzejohanneskrikke1910 6 күн бұрын
What you talk about around 30 minutes can already be done with Synthesizer V: analyse existing audio and resynthesize voices locally.
@SonicScoop
@SonicScoop 6 күн бұрын
I’m looking at synthesizer V right now, and it appears that it is a text and MIDI to speech synthesizer, exactly as I described! Are you saying it has a audio to midi function that allows you to use monophonic audio to extract MIDI from? If so, that’s neat, but it can’t preserve the exact phrasing, pitch and diction of the original voice that way. That’s a very different kind of technology. What you’re describing is taking MIDI (possibly MIDI notation extracted from audio?) with text and creating a newly synthesized voice from scratch that way. While in the same general ballpark, kind of, this is also VERY different. Services like Audimee preserve the original inflection, pitch and diction of the original performance, and remap it to a completely different tone. It’s a different process and end result. Both have their uses, but they are NOT the same. Hope that helps! -Justin
@lukehauser1182
@lukehauser1182 7 күн бұрын
Interesting -- and -- I think these sorts of manipulated voices will really date the music in a decade - at some point a more honest, direct voice will be preferred - cf 1964 (British invasion), 1992 (Nirvana)
@SonicScoop
@SonicScoop 6 күн бұрын
My recommendation with this kind of tool is to preserve the honest inflection of a vocal performance, and instead of using tuners to “correct” performances, use them to REHARMONIZE performances without making them unnatural. My recommended use case is NOT pitch correction. It’s pitch Re-composition. THAT is the new part. Pitch correction is old tech at this point. How would that be new? John Lennon and Kurt Cobain both did vocal double tracking-a relatively new technology in the Beatles’ day, which makes the voice sound more “synthetic” in the literal sense of the word. If Lennon or Cobain could take their doubled vocal take and reharmonize it, using a totally different vocal texture they could actually make it sound less “synthetic”-by having the double be a different voice timbre. Or they could have it sound even more effected by instead using or creating a totally new and interesting instrument or voice model of some kind. Would the Beatles or Nirvana have used this technology is it was around in their day? The Beatles, absolutely!! Are you kidding me?? They were pushing the boundaries of the most cutting edge music production technology of their day, and using it to make new sounds that they weren’t even designed to achieve. Nirvana? Maybe not. But if you don’t think George Martin and the Beatles would be using this stuff, you’re either not thinking it through, or haven’t studied the Beatles very much. I hope that helps add sone perspective to it. -Justin
@lukehauser1182
@lukehauser1182 6 күн бұрын
@@SonicScoop Thanks for sharing your thoughts
@Otchengazoom
@Otchengazoom 4 күн бұрын
Melodyne does the same and even better (each note length, attack, vibrato and other things detailed editing). So Audimee just offers the very limited version of Melodyne. And there is no any AI touch in this new editing tool.
@SonicScoop
@SonicScoop 3 күн бұрын
Nope, wrong, sorry :-) Melodyne is an more powerful tool for fine vocal tuning, duh. But that’s not the point. The point is that this allows you to radically reharmonize parts with extreme vocal retuning, with NO TUNING ARTIFACTS. Melodyne isn’t going to allow you to change your pitch by a 5th or a 9th or a 13th and have it sound just as natural as if you were tuning by a half step. THAT is the breakthrough here. Pay attention! :-D
@Otchengazoom
@Otchengazoom 22 сағат бұрын
@@SonicScoop Now I've read your pinned comment. At last haha))) Sorry for disturbing . Now I understand. Thank you.
@ramspencer5492
@ramspencer5492 7 күн бұрын
That's going to be different for different people... For someone like me, who literally hates Auto-Tune as an effect.... Who likes tuning to be minimal and transparent.... There's no need to go beyond light manual melodyne processing... Period. I don't want the soul and the blues and the conversationalism .... And the little tiny bit of semi-tonalism we have in western music removed.... Either with the sledgehammer of Auto-Tune... And also probably not with a more refined AI model. Not for me.
@SonicScoop
@SonicScoop 6 күн бұрын
I’m not a fan of auto tune effects or pitch correction, in general. That’s why my recommended use case IS NOT THAT. You’ll notice that in all of the examples I did in real time myself, I did NOT pitch correct the vocal. Rather, I used this kind of pitch correction to REHARMONIZE the vocal. Without touching the pitch as far as “correction” goes. I prefer this use case to light Melodyne. I actually have MORE of a problem with “light” pitch correction using Melodyne or auto tune. In that use case, you are sucking the humanity out of the vocalists performance. In my recommended use case, you are PRESERVING the humanity of the original performance and running it through interesting textural effects and spinning it out into new and interesting reharmonizations. I’m actually more hardcore about musical purity on this than you are, as I kind of hate light Melodyne :-) No! I want to hear real vocal takes. My recommended use case preserves the performative essence of the original vocal take from a pitch perspective. I hope that makes sense! -Justin
@willnada
@willnada 5 күн бұрын
No, it doesn’t have to be this job destroying thing except it’s kind of sort of absolutely destroying jobs and things for people. If you’re established, you’re good if you’re not you’re not unless you’re better than everyone combined and charge almost nothing for your work..
@SonicScoop
@SonicScoop 5 күн бұрын
I just don’t see a processor that allows you to reharmonize vocals and change their timbre as the death knell for jobs in music. Not all AIs are the same. -Justin
@ELLIOT8209
@ELLIOT8209 6 күн бұрын
All this AI doesn't work on my home language. Seems to just work with English. Lol
@SonicScoop
@SonicScoop 6 күн бұрын
I’d imagine English is the biggest, most lucrative market, but once these tools become commercially viable there, I’d imagine they could quickly expand to other languages. -Justin
@bobbyboyderecords
@bobbyboyderecords 6 күн бұрын
The tractor is not the same. If I was not a farmer and bought a tractor do you think I could then make a living as a farmer? At the moment I just made my own record label, everything I do in it is AI music generation, sound fx to video, all art work, contracts, financial, generating ideas. You name it I can do it. Before AI I had only ever listened to music, I am tone deaf. I'm now making a load of money with AI not just in music but all areas of the creative industries. I even have automated AI to watch and copy KZbin videos and put them out as content. I'm trying to automate everything so that I just set it and forget it. It's the gold Rush time for AI so I am making hay while the sun shines. (even though I'm no farmer)
@SonicScoop
@SonicScoop 6 күн бұрын
Tractors put close to 100% of farmers out of business. The US literally went from having 98% of the population work in agriculture to 2%. The only thing wrong with this analog is that AI is unlikely to have the same effect in music. -Justin
@StratsRUs
@StratsRUs 7 күн бұрын
AI can't be compared to tractors.
@SonicScoop
@SonicScoop 7 күн бұрын
Why not?
@Octwavian
@Octwavian 7 күн бұрын
@@SonicScoop I think AI is not like a tractor, but more la the combustion engine, and will revolutionize every single industry with comunded and very unpredictable effects. In all seriousness, AI (AGI, then ASI) might just be the last human invention, and that is the good scenario.
@nathanlaplante4679
@nathanlaplante4679 7 күн бұрын
@@SonicScoopTractors didn't have at least a 5% chance of wiping out mankind. That's from Sam Altman and Other heads of AI. 2,700 AI researchers believe that and its a conservative percentage. Pandora's box is already open so cross your fingers!
@GingerDrums
@GingerDrums 7 күн бұрын
​@@SonicScoop It more comparable to the discovery of oil and the industrial revolution. ChatGPT was launched on November 30, 2022, which means we are not even 3 years in. Imagine the AI we have now is like the first steam engines in Scotland...
@ThisGuyDude
@ThisGuyDude 6 күн бұрын
He's alluding to Luddites in England. It's apt.
@batautomat
@batautomat 6 күн бұрын
AI music software is plagiarism software. The big music corporations are now suing the AI generative music developers for training models off of copyrighted music.
@SonicScoop
@SonicScoop 5 күн бұрын
Yeah, this isn’t that kind of AI. Please watch the video before commenting. 😆
@autodidacticprofessor869
@autodidacticprofessor869 6 күн бұрын
Yikes. The more of this stuff I see, the less interested I am in modern production. Either learn to play, sing and perform or do something else. I'm tired of fake, plastic music with technological crutches to make it even less human.
@SonicScoop
@SonicScoop 6 күн бұрын
The recommendations I’m making here ARE for people who can sing and play though! My recommendation is NOT simple pitch correction. I didn’t even really show pitch correction. The use case I recommend is vocal reharmonization off of a single singer or a single performance. Nowhere did I encourage simple pitch correction for people who can’t sing well. That’s not even what’s new here. That’s old tech already at this point. My recommendation is for using tools that could be used badly in creative and interesting ways instead. Watch the video! :-) -Justin
@songar06
@songar06 5 күн бұрын
You are like the people on top of the skyscrapers in “Independence Day”, welcoming the aliens, before being obliterated. Very naive.
@SonicScoop
@SonicScoop 5 күн бұрын
A vocal processor that allows you to reharmonize vocals and change their timbre is going to obliterate mankind?
@songar06
@songar06 4 күн бұрын
@@SonicScoop It takes part in destroying the craft and world of music making that you and I have been working in. One plug-in will let you skip hiring a singer, another will let you skip hiring a mixer. And some plugins will let you skip the whole chain of artists from the composer to the mastering engineer. I don’t see a way to stop it, I just find it strange to see you celebrate one of these destructive programs. Of course it’s possible to use it in a creative way, but we both know it will mainly be used to cut out yet another human element of music. It is so sad that I don’t have words for it. I have enjoyed many of your earlier videos about mixing, though, so thanks for that.
@ThisGuyDude
@ThisGuyDude 6 күн бұрын
3:26 Ooof. Mega Cringe. Not even remotely convincing at all. Dude. Seriously? This just be a sponsored video, right?
@SonicScoop
@SonicScoop 6 күн бұрын
If you don’t think hat is sufficient voice change quality from female to make to use background vocal harmonies, I don’t know what to tell you, other than that you’re nuts! :-) Listen to the harmony example at 6:07 to hear what I mean. Absolutely suitable for this purpose, which is the primary use case I recommend. The other use cases I recommend are replacing/blending vocals with intentionally effected instrument sounds, and reimagining and retuning/recomposing vocal samples. Straight vocal replacement outside of sing demos is not one of my recommended use cases. That said, if you listen to the demo for each voice, it’s obvious that this can be done effectively with a little effort. It’s just not what I would ever use it for. -Justin
@ThisGuyDude
@ThisGuyDude 6 күн бұрын
@@SonicScoop okay your comment is a bait-and-switch. What you said is that's a convincing change from a female to a male vocal. It's not. It's not a change from a female to a male vocal by any stretch of the imagination. If you want to change the goal posts after the fact to indicate that you meant a thicker female vocal that could be used as a background or a harmony then that's a completely different equation. But not what you stated in the video.
@zdogg8
@zdogg8 6 күн бұрын
If people could actually SING then why would AI play a role --- at ALL. Imagine an AI basketball player that dunks from the mid court line. IS that more entertaining, better than MJ? AI defeats the purposes of the most HUMAN of activities. MUSIC. Basta to all of this crap.
@svensvensson8102
@svensvensson8102 6 күн бұрын
There's more to music than singing. I use this to sketch vocals, which can then be replaced by a real performance later on. If you're a song writer but not a singer, then this is an excellent tool. What's interesting about Audimee is that anyone can create a voice profile, which may create a new venue for collaboration between writers and singers.
@zdogg8
@zdogg8 6 күн бұрын
@@svensvensson8102 Yes, I'm (probably not obviously enough) talking in broad stroke generalities. Tech "gizmos" have actually RUINED the music biz, meaning, providing the most actual living wage jobs for the most number of - or let's suppose - deserving people. I think MUSICIANS (inclusive of singers, of course) deserve to be on the receiving end of the bulk of the work, $$ and accolades, etc. Speaking of non singer songwriters ( whom I greatly respect -- if they're actually good) My grandmother turned down Sammy Cahn when in the Great Depression she was renting a room and he presented himself as a would be renter, and she did not "believe" he was who he said he was... and I'm a big fan of this NON SINGING mostly lyricist (Top Five, Hall of Fame type) Anyway, yes, for certain "placeholder" applications, have at it. I'm not going to STOP, actually - any of this, of course, I'm just pointing out that music - the non hobby true business of music, is and should be the purview and realm of musicians and not people who can figure out how to push the "talent button." EGADS. Thanks for the response and Cheers!!
@SonicScoop
@SonicScoop 5 күн бұрын
But, are you watching the video? Because this AI requires singing skills in order to use. You don’t input text and MIDI, and get a vocal performance. Rather, you take an existing human vocal performance, and can reharmonize it, or change its timbre. It’s like 33% of people aren’t watching the video before commenting 😆
@zdogg8
@zdogg8 5 күн бұрын
@@SonicScoop Yes, I GET that. Chaka Khan was the first to really, or most prominently, do her own backgrounds, in the Rufus days in the seventies,. Her's is the sort of voice you might want to hear in triplicate. Really a pass was extended, IOW, public accepted it, didn't fully love it. It was, at the end of the day seen as a bit gimmicky, but - best case - perhaps the exception that proves the rule. WITHOUT EXCEPTION backgrounds benefit from the richer blend of timbres of different voices. I've done my own backgrounds, it's a compromise, no matter how good the performance/post production. Aesthetically NOT recommended. The beauty of the choir or ensemble, is that it is NOT the seam sound in triplicate. This is the problem with "the toys." It happens, all the time, in the video realm, as well. Notice now, how ALL commercials look like the same production house...gimmick rich, (cue in the drone shot, now give me that fast surreal zoom) but bland as hell..just lack of basic variety......Don't stand up as a bona fide engineer (and you are, I watched your videos prior) and take basically an anti art position in advancing "the state of the art."
@officialWWM
@officialWWM 6 күн бұрын
None of this is good!
@SonicScoop
@SonicScoop 5 күн бұрын
You don’t like the idea of being able to reharmonize a vocal take and change its timbre? How is that bad?
@officialWWM
@officialWWM 5 күн бұрын
@@SonicScoop no, I don’t. I’m old school. I prefer to sing the parts properly. I think it’s all very deceptive.
@dgunzbeatz
@dgunzbeatz 5 күн бұрын
​@@officialWWMthen go back been old man stop been nuts
@sheezy3962
@sheezy3962 5 күн бұрын
*being
@officialWWM
@officialWWM 4 күн бұрын
@@dgunzbeatz this difference between you and me is that I can actually sing! And spell.
@XCenturionX
@XCenturionX 6 күн бұрын
You're complicit to the downfall of music
@SonicScoop
@SonicScoop 6 күн бұрын
By letting people know there’s an interesting tool that can let them change the tone of their vocal performances and/or cleanly reharmonize them?
@coolint
@coolint 5 күн бұрын
If you people that make these A.i, product and equipment information videos, just stop talking so much, you'll get more subscribers. I know someone has taught you to talk for 2 plus minutes in the beginning of your videos and during the video's stop and give unnecessary information, but that doesn't work anymore. We just want you to get to the point, and we will subscribe, like and watch all of your videos. Thanks for the information.
@SonicScoop
@SonicScoop 5 күн бұрын
I don’t make videos for short attention span people. I try to attract an audience who likes to understand things deeply. If that’s not for you, that’s ok.
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