How a "Real" Musician can use Suno v3 AI Generated Music

[@chrismorley2717]

Much more on Band in a Box please! I've been using it for about five years and it is excellent, the manual is comprehensive (and large!) but watching your turorial was quick and easy to follow.I have subscribed in the hope of more. Thanks for your work.😃

[@leetasker5146]

Using the method in this video, do you think BIAB would copy things like guitar riffs/solos or any like synth sounds that are part of my Suno song? I want to be able to pretty much create an identical instrumental track of the suno song. Thanks

[@officialsnufkin]

You're a natural teacher and presenter, perfect explanation, thanks.

[@BobDoyleMedia]

Very nice of you to say!!

[@mr_anasaltaf]

​@@BobDoyleMediasir can i distribute my suno ai songs to distribution platforms like distrokid, tunecore and many more? is anyone known about that?

[@zenmasterjay1]

​@@mr_anasaltafyes but supposedly you are not supposed to on the free plan.

[@mr_anasaltaf]

@@zenmasterjay1 are you sure? Because now I'm going to buy the paid plan

[@sharkeys]

Your videos are always a pleasure to watch. Nice and chilled out, no quirky gimmicks and plenty of actual examples of using the AI alongside advising about it.

[@BobDoyleMedia]

Thanks so much!

[@sharkeys]

@@BobDoyleMedia Have you tried grabbing the split vocal track and throwing it through RVC? I guess the SUNO vocal track might be too low quality but it might improve it somewhat.

[@Diamond-Cat]

Somehow can't write comments here...they always dissapear. so just a short one, cause I am tired of writing it again and again. (did it 2 times) Thank you for the great video!!! The band in a box is very expensive. Is it worth to invest so much money in it?

[@BobDoyleMedia]

@@Diamond-Cat If you watch the demo video there and are inspired to create, then absolutely yes.

[@Diamond-Cat]

@BobDoyleMedia thank you. That is a good advice, I wil check it out!!

[@timothyporr]

Great video, thanks! I bought Band in a Box years ago and never really used it. Now I can see a great use for it! Thanks for taking the time to show how it's done, Bob. 👍🙏

[@stephenrpell3194]

Thank you. I am new to Suno but have been a Band in A Box user and fan for years. I am thrilled they work together.

[@nabilabsood6967]

This month, I made new Suno songs.

[@leetasker5146]

Does BIAB copy things like guitar riffs/solos or any like synth sounds that are part of my Suno song? I want to be able to pretty much create an identical instrumental track of the suno song. Thanks

[@SidneyJamesXBL]

I am so glad I have found this video, I have struggled using BIAB for years and you explained three or four things in5 minutes, amazing! You have got a subscriber now 😊

[@BobDoyleMedia]

Wow, that’s great to hear! I feel like I barely did band in a box justice in this video.

[@SidneyJamesXBL]

@@BobDoyleMedia I'm looking forward to you showing more BIAB tips & tricks in the future 😁

[@em7dim9]

The whole appeal of BIAB is that you get to feed it the chord progression of a song YOU wrote. But here, the AI writes the chord progression, which takes away the entire creative process. No musician wants this.

[@davidvierabarreras]

Since I discovered Suno, I have become much more productive, many ideas that I had stagnant I have been able to develop with this tool, I generate ideas and then transform them to what I want starting from scratch, because the sound quality generated is still far from being polished (luckily for us) and then from the material that Suno gives me, I build, perfect, develop or implement your idea in my composition... And it's really fun, it's like having someone else, giving you ideas about what you want to do....

[@micah_noel]

Same! Been creating vocal tracks for unfinished songs from 10-15 years ago and it’s so much better than what a person could do (believe me, I auditioned numerous vocalists for the same songs). I call it “virtual collaboration”, which is a term I hope can be widely spread. And for everyone who assumes that I must be having it write songs for me with minimal effort, my new answer is “if I told you I played keyboard, would you assume that I’m just holding down one key and letting the synthesizer do all the work?”. Cheers!

[@hakkobiggo2514]

agree with you completely!

[@alexanderpaulmusic]

Great tips! I've used Band-In-A-Box for all my songs to some extent and just discovered Suno. Songwriting is what I'm most comfortable with so I'll probably use Suno to get inspiration for melodies and chord progressions.

[@leetasker5146]

Would BIAB copy things like guitar riffs/solos or any like synth sounds that are part of my Suno song? I want to be able to pretty much create an identical instrumental track of the suno song. Thanks

[@periurban]

This was very interesting. As an elderly musician and producer who's seen it all I agree with your idea that musicians and producers need to work with the latest tech to raise their game. However, useful though this technique may be, I imagine the AI will have been suitably upscaled by the end of the year. It's only a matter of time before someone designs a DAW that runs entirely on AI, and does it at any bitrate and sample frequency you like, rendering workarounds like this one obsolete. [One last thing - I'd forgotten all about Band in a Box! I had no idea it was still a thing. Looks wonderfully retro. I must check it out!]

[@BobDoyleMedia]

I agree that all of this will become obsolete very very soon.

[@msouga]

I love this video. Thank you sincerely. I was specifically looking for a way to enhance suno's output without having to interact with actual people, with the possible exception of the voice.

[@coversongstudio9651]

Great presentation. I have been wanting to create non copyrighted music for some time and this appears like a great place to start.

[@jebbiemetta]

WOW! I am so happy that you are THE Bob Doyle who helped me with your audio, books and videos from 20 years ago. Happy to find you again.

[@BobDoyleMedia]

Very nice of you to say!

[@CRIMELAB357]

Whoaaaa! Band in a box is freaking awesome. Thx for sharing man 🍻

[@BobDoyleMedia]

My pleasure! It’s a hell of a program. It even creates vocal harmonies and things like that.

[@CRIMELAB357]

@@BobDoyleMedia too awesome

[@bobhawkey3783]

Amazing. I was wondering how actual musicians would use Suno. Like you said at the start, AI is an enabler, not a replacer. Much like Band in a Box which has been around for an eternity. ❤

[@chandapwapwa8171]

Not yet...

[@stuartjameswright]

This is it. I've been exporting from BIAB to Cubase Pro for a few years now, this is another weapon in the armoury. thanks for the heads up.

[@dustingibson1796]

I have spent years trying to turn my poems into heavy metal tracks, dealing with arrogant musicians, who did not want to do the music that I was writing… for some reason I kept these people around.. with the AI helping me I can attract new musicians that are better quality to build a new band. Maybe now I’m not too old to have my dream.

[@amirperrymusic]

Man this was a great video! Thanks for taking out the time to do this. I gotta look into Band In A Box.

[@chicagobob]

I have been using BIAB which their first release and appreciate this video and agree with you that the joy of music is the goal not how we create the tools. Products like BIAB and SynthV has made me more creative and allows me to do more work for clients quicker, for less cost and with more variation. Only once did I have a client freak out because I used a tool like Band-in-the-box. I am exploring ways to use Suno and other next generation composing tools to my work flow. Thanks for the video.

[@leetasker5146]

Using this method, would BIAB copy things like guitar riffs/solos or any like synth sounds that are part of my Suno song? I want to be able to pretty much create an identical instrumental track of the suno song. Thanks

[@aceyliachonky]

I export suno songs to logic and did some Eq and mastering and it sounds wonderful.

[@jean-pierreserret301]

Were you able to clean up the audio in Logic i.e the hiss/distortion with the suno tracks

[@robjfulton]

hey, just stumbled across this video. Keep up the good work, brother! 🎉

[@TabooVector]

many years ago (20+) i losst my passion for music what suno has done is made that too long ago fire get lit again. so now its back to suck so much info on mastering\editing\ daw and what not to make my own stuff , why i never heard of band in a box before is behond me but never the less great stuff def gponna dive into that soon , thren i can fiddle with alot of the ideas from suno with proper instrumentas rather then the gawd danm noisy instruments that suno unfortunaly very often gives back. So i thank you for telling me on this gem. def will check out much love :)

[@offgridrvliving]

Definitely interested in a more in depth vid on this. Especially tools for replacing Sunos highly compressed and clipped vocals with high fidelity vocals. Also interested in which DAWS would work best for beginners to transfer Band In a Box instrumentals to and how to improve instrument fidelity as well.

[@cstaeger]

I love BIAB (for years) and enjoy the quality and control I get. Suno was an isolated island for me, and thanks to you, I could expand my technical skills to get the best of three worlds - Suno, BIAB and my musicianship 😅

[@BobDoyleMedia]

Thanks! I know this video was super high-level, but once you get the concept...

[@adawarenessawareness]

I haven't used it since the 90 's I didn't even thought it still existed Very nice to mix two complete different era together

[@BobDoyleMedia]

Posting another one tomorrow (that's the plan, anyway) that gets into using it to generate vocal harmonies for use in other DAWS. BnB has its own internal vocal (tc-helicon stuff) harmony generator that I'll be doing still another video for.

[@digitalsublime]

the whole voice extraction replacement is not there yet. Add to it lo quality of suno. But as presented in the video like a tool for development of ideas to later record is game changer

[@jimfogle184]

Holy Cow Batman; err Bob Doyle! :) Great video. I love how you've made several videos showcasing AI working with Band-in-a-Box. I sincerely hope you will continue creating videos using Band-in-a-Box with other applications. Are you aware your videos are featured in the PG Music forum? Exciting stuff.

[@videoflex6328]

great video, i would like to know to import my own daw studio wav into a A.I like suno to get a singingline on my music by importing the text. Is that possible?

[@michaelberg7201]

Why do i find myself adding every video you make to my favorites. And I'm not even a musician, not even close 🙂

[@vadimzubakhin1589]

Hello Bob. Thanks for all the ideas you give here! I am in too.

[@marcosmontanhes]

I've been editing the generated songs in an audio editor... cutting, overlapping parts (I generate more than one version of the same song, so I have several excerpts available) , and inserting real lines (me playing and singing)... it's really fun and results in interesting things... at least for me, obviously, since I'm not a professional. And I also think it’s essential to use non-artificial lyrics. I will certainly include the band-in-a-box in the creation process. Thanks for the tip ;)

[@nabilabsood6967]

Fun fact: when you create Suno songs, the lyrics are made up by the robots and the people have vocally sung it, mainly with recurring words.

[@neogeo9117]

Incredible. Great tutorial!

[@BobDoyleMedia]

Thank you!

[@SickKiddCrue1980]

Bob can you get rid of the auto tune from the vocals at all from sunno

[@wlillico]

I was wondering what year of audio chord wizard you are using as it does not work as well in 2024 also thinking of reverting or adding one of the old vertions to my hard drive you make finding the bars look so easy!!

[@charlieparra3103]

Here's my problem. I do write lyrcs and I play basic guitar. But with Suno I was able to find a perfect guitar passage that I'd like to use. My problem? I cannot play it and it would take months or years trying to, and I can't use the audio from Suno because the stem audio sucks. I've been trying to figure out how to create my music without having a band and not being that talented at guitar. Any ideas?

[@Djirka19]

OMG!! Half of my heart wants to start doing this immediately, but let's finish my indie game first and then boost the soundtrack with this ;)

[@alanbeasy1775]

For better vocal extraction the new AUDACITY AI plug ins are good.

[@BobDoyleMedia]

Just learned about these plugins last week! Haven’t tested them yet!

[@MrMoviemashup]

Whats the plugin called?

[@wmichaelf]

Great vid. I'm a long time BIaB user (and agree that it's so deep, you never use all the features). My current wish is that Suno let you export the various stems. I might try some of the 'separation' software that's out there just to see how that works. That would make it a lot easier to work with stuff like Toontrack or Melodyne.

[@Jamminn555]

Fantastic video, Bob. Would love to see more of these AI/conversion/music/vocals/generation kinds of videos, which you're so great at showing us. Really appreciate all you're doing for us! Ben

[@gu9838]

band in a box is awesome nice to see it given some love , its crazy its not more popular then it is.

[@larryczerwonka5125]

This is the first time i have seen someone putting in the chords and tempo. I have been doing that with the different AI music generators that i use and seem to get better music and even the vocals seem to get better. But some of the systems are limited in how long your prompt can be, so you can't always get all of the chords in that you want.. I had not considered using Band in a Box to get more control over the music. Thans for the video and the idea!

[@scorpionleader1967]

Is there a way to use Suno in Cubase? I tried once and it was a mess. I don't even know if Cubase has a way to make stems.

[@BobDoyleMedia]

I haven't updated Cubase since version 5 so I don't know if they do stems or not, but there are several other online sources for that, with varying levels of quality.

[@graphisonics281]

Great suggestions about tools to combine with AI. I appreciate the reminder about BIAB. My first version was decades ago.

[@BobDoyleMedia]

Yes, it sits on my hard drive, mostly unused, and I'll upgrade it about every 5 years or so just because I'm that way.

[@brianmi40]

There's also a web that will match any lyrics with an AI voice singing them. Used it to create my own cover of a song I like, but as a guitarist, not singer, found it amazing to get a vocal performance that sounded not only better than splitting out a stem vocal, but also had my choice of vocalist voices...

[@sulajraina2572]

link?

[@AS-rw7rf]

What’s the link please

[@HubertEtAlice]

Hi, great stuff. Honestly I don't care too much about BiaB, but the hability to separate vocals from backing for Suno songs is great... Now I will be able to sing my own songs with a Suno backing track. Thanks.

[@HatemAlSibai]

Excellent content. Thanks. It would be nice if suno provided the option of downloading a midi file and a separate audio file for the vocals. Until then, I would love to learn more simple tricks and techniques for modifying and editing suno’s output that can practically be used by a novice.

[@NanoTechnicianHQ]

Love how you're using a program that started in 1990!

[@Author_SoftwareDesigner]

Why this is game changing! And individual control over the instruments!

[@aaronpk]

wow, I haven't heard about Band in a Box since I was generating MIDI with it in the 90s! I had no idea it was still a thing!

[@blueberry6404]

Just curious about cleaning up vocals more. Some tips on how to remove that compressed sound from them. Great video I have been cleaning sudo songs the best I could with audacity.. lots of work.

[@BobDoyleMedia]

Yeah, this is where we're straying from my expertise. These are all the same things I'm looking for tools for as well.

[@HABLA_GUIRRRI]

such clarity and spark --- thx Bob

[@InspirationLynn]

Suno lets you get stems now (since idk when) but the instrumental stems often have these warbling remnants of the vocals. Will be interesting to see how vocalremover compares.

[@Digital_Flair]

Very informative, thank you for this very clear and detailed presentation !

[@rickwj9851]

Hey Bob, I've been trying to match up audio with band in a box much to my frustration. I will keep at it, but this video is great. The audio starts before BiB, I can't find where to shut the count in off or grab the audio and slide it up to the measure where BiB starts. You are great at explaining the inter workings of these programs. There's a million videos on BiB, but the way you explain things I seem to comprehend your expertise better than most. Any videos you could make more in depth concerning the audio would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.......

[@RockinJohnnyaitken]

I been using band in a box since the 90s and its been a god send to me as a singer songwriter.

[@SickKiddCrue1980]

I know people don't like it but this is the new way..

[@kokopelli314]

I did this last year with Suno V2 and BiaB. Results were ok, but I ended up changing the progression and style to fit my playing.

[@aprogaming1015]

Tho mei na Mera song generate Kiya suno ai pe uska loop mujhe bhot pasand aaya spilt kar ke sirf uska hi loop Mei na mera song pe used kiya tho copyright nhi ya koi future mei problem nhi hoga na plz reply me

[@DjHazardous]

*I like your thinking my friend when it comes to music producers and how we can use it as a helpful tool*

[@ai.s0ngs1]

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[@davidvierabarreras]

Agreed with you... And I say: To disown technology is stupid, this is the way the industry is going, the world in general... whether we like it or not, so the best we can do is adapt and use it to our advantage.

[@nabilabsood6967]

Fun fact: when you create Suno songs, the lyrics are made up by the robots and the people have vocally sung it, mainly with recurring words.

[@no-overw]

Could anyone kindly provide assistance in obtaining the Band-in-a-Box software? I am eager to acquire it for educational purposes and expand my proficiency in its utilization.

[@BobDoyleMedia]

It’s available at pgmusic.com if that’s what you’re asking.

[@dmitryy2199]

Just what I was looking for! Thanks Bob

[@BobDoyleMedia]

Great! Glad to hear it!

[@duesenberger]

Great video! Thanks a lot. Would be great if You could dive in a little deeper into the steps in a later video.

[@christophleipold]

This is so fantastic! I once had BB years ago - I never found any use in it. Now I do!

[@BobDoyleMedia]

Yes! AI has really brought BB back to life for me!

[@sikseptik]

Suno can be used alongside other tools to produce music and people should not feel bad using it. I've been writing songs for years and never have been able to fully express myself. Working a Full-time job, limited funds, etc. Suno replaces musicians the same way band in a box does. Being able use a sample of your voice to extend and personalize your songs is life changing.

[@Clownboy15]

I’m gonna have to play with this. I just discovered Suno last week and have already put several songs out. They work well enough for me as is. But if I can mage them sound better, bonus! Especially my favorite song I’ve made about Vincent Price called “King of Fright!”

[@traveladvantage]

Thank you for the video. I cannot make it work on the Band-in-a-Box 2024 I don't have a Menu: Launch Audio Chord Wizard. Please help.

[@jRoy7]

I've just started to mess with Suno this past week, it's really cool. Currently my plan was to separate out the stems and hire artists to perform them, then reassemble. :)

[@markushutto4017]

Did you figure our how to separate the stems?

[@jRoy7]

@@markushutto4017 There are various AI options, but the one I ended up using was RipX. It seemed to worked the best. Has a free demo.

[@freshnelly]

Yep, Suno needs to be able to produce vocal & instrument Stems!! The quality would be better than using software to separate the parts, plus us that like to DJ would be totally hooked!! They need to get it done!! I'm sure they will realize how cool this would be and add the feature.

[@tuklaschannel1135]

i do not see the option launch audio chord wizard, im using the 2023 version

[@gerinsindanight]

Thanks 4 the vid Bob, what really sorprised me was this BBox option! I can get any audio, it will generate comping for diferents instruments and then I can export midi and use my own vst I understand, awesome! I was looking a toy like that. Suno wise, yes it sounds great and you can put lyrics but still is very average, can't customize shit. I get the thing that makes people to flip, but in my case, being a musician, it's not that great.

[@StEtienne1979]

Great stuff and would be very interested in more Band in a box info. Next stop, getting that software since i have some songs to work on....

[@Mai-BrittAndersen]

Yes please, a full tutorial about how to turn AI songs into own instrument changes (in other programs). I would love that! Thank you for your channel! Are there website alternatives to Band in a Box?

[@makinganoise6028]

Anybody who has ever gone into a Studio and worked with a Producer, know how much input goes on, from them into the process, some will even start adding instrumentation etc, so AI is no different, the genie is out the bottle, interesting use of Band in a Box, what I am looking for is a tool that can allow more work on the vocals from Suno, change phrases and phrasing, delivery etc.

[@PaulJonesy]

I see music creators as being very much editors - if I play guitar I will filter out the “good bits” from all the ideas I come up with. It’s the same with AI, use it as a tool and apply your judgement to what it produces.

[@maxmonies]

Suno v4 sounds incredible in terms of fidelity and singers.

[@NenaIram]

Please can you explain about any eventual copyrights issue with Songs created with SUNO

[@mizar-au]

Exactly what I wanted! Thanks a lot for doing this

[@BobDoyleMedia]

Great! Glad it was helpful!

[@ndbshop9756]

Hi, I have the melody, now what AI tool can I use to make a beat according to the melody?

[@RiggiMediaInt]

AI ripping musicians. Musicians ripping AI. You can't make this stuff up. 😂

[@NatanSupel]

This pisses me off tbh that’s crazy

[@SlippinnnJimmy]

​@NatanSupel Every musician takes from influences. Anyone claiming they don't absorb and apply influences is a liar.

[@marcduchamp5512]

Imagine someone took credit from you at your work

[@SlippinnnJimmy]

@@marcduchamp5512 Imagine claiming you performed creative work that had zero influence from previous work.

[@relative_vie]

Gotta love it

[@BE4T-h8z]

Thank you for this video. Very informative and interesting. 😊💯

[@Vstergio33]

I am an amateur, your assistance is precious. I use Band-in-a-box and others. I am Greek and I need to have an AI singer to sing my songs, which I compose. Like ace studio, but it does not sing Greek. Thank you.

[@AS-rw7rf]

Hmm thanks for this insight, definitely good nuggets.

[@LARRYBEAR]

Woow cool i need it!

[@leetasker5146]

Does BIAB copy things like guitar riffs/solos or any like synth sounds that are part of my Suno song? I want to be able to pretty much create an identical instrumental track of the suno song. If anyone can advise please? I don't want to buy BIAB if it can't do that. Thanks

[@DJStatusss]

Take vocal run it through Audimee to get a wow ai singer but there must be better way to get the instruments like ableton wizard midi, or waves or sonic?

[@garsett]

Hmmm. Looks to me you're not able to combine the STRENGHTS of the 2 programs. I want the SOUND, especially the vocals (high fidility, granted) of SUNO, with the FLEXIBILITY/ADAPTABILITY of BiaB. Because you can't put a chord structure in Suno, right? So that's not a good basis. And you can't create soul vocals in BiaB. Sadly.

[@hakkobiggo2514]

Thank you for your videos. Can we do more Band in a Box. I believe with AI music generator getting more popular, many see the need to incorporate the process with other tools like BIAB. It will help creators to generate better music. It enhances the creation process. Hope to see more tutorials that focus on BIAB. Thanks again!

[@DigitalForest0]

first time watching! thank you for band in a box;)

[@macdoctorsg]

Hi, fantastic content! Question, how and what exact prompt did you use to tell Suno to have a decent intro instrumental like your song here? Suno always starts the song immediately with verse 1 and it's kinda annoying coz many times we'd like to have a decent intro instrumental before the singing starts. Any tips?

[@Invideable]

How can I lived so many years not knowing about Band in a Box??? Thx awesome content

[@dippadai]

After +30 years I can do pretty much whatever I want without helpers like these, but hey, still have curious to learn more. Thanks for the video

[@brianmolele7264]

Music evolves, back then when Reel to Reel was phased out and daw introduced, many engineers thought it’s the end of the world and computers are taking over. Today the engineers enjoy the process of recording on Pro Tools

[@Carl-f2g]

Hi Bob, Great video, thank you. I dont have the "Launch Audio Chord Wizard" under audio menu in BIAB 2024 Pro on Windows, any idea if its totally been renamed to something else please?

[@BobDoyleMedia]

Wow, I really don’t know. It really didn’t occur to me when I made the video just how old my copy of band in a box was!

[@LoveKeepsGiving]

Cool! A commercial for band in a box!

[@lauratomas4369]

Wow! This is Amazing! Can you please do a full tutorial on this ??? Also how can we add our vocals to it? Thank you! Best Channel ever! :) Blessings your way Bob Doyle! :)

[@BobDoyleMedia]

Thank you! I’m definitely due for another band in a box video.

[@BobDoyleMedia]

Can you clarify which stage of the process you want to add your own vocals?

[@lauratomas4369]

Thanks for your prompt reply! I just found out I can use biab as a plugin in Logic pro, so I will record my vocals there! This is amazing! Thanks for sharing all your knowledge with us all and for your time and dedication! I'm super grateful! 😊

[@BobDoyleMedia]

@@lauratomas4369 Thanks, Laura! I appreciate the kind words!

[@thomasbones7973]

The problem with using AI and technology in general so deeply in music creation is that you can't express yourself when your mind is focused on harnessing the technology instead of your expression.

[@averkom]

Thank you for providing such valuable and clear information!

[@getkraken8064]

I am not a "real" musician, but I am a real lyricist. In the past, I produced my own song demos in my home studio. Hardly the voice, musicianship, and production values one ideally wants for maximum showcasing of my songs. I call it a Bernie Taupin miracle machine. Suno v3 is my Elton John.

[@PavelIshanov]

Amazing to meet here my copy!!! Same history

[@PavelIshanov]

My wife, she is a musician, composer said this music serves to your poetry, demonstrates how good your lyrics is

[@getkraken8064]

@@PavelIshanov Da! You married a good woman.

[@Dewledoux]

This is very timely & helpful

[@johndcosta6924]

Hi. I have a question about Suno. Can I ask Suno to create a song on the sequence of chords I need? For example, I have a disco, EDM song where I want my chords to be C,G,Am, F for the verse and C,G,F for the chorus. Can this be done in Suno???

[@BobDoyleMedia]

Suno doesn't do that, but that's exactly what Band In A Box does. pgmusic.com