How a small professional cabinet maker's workshop makes a beaded face frame for a kitchen cabinet.

[@denty32]

Mate that was a cracking little video, I loved that dovetail machine

[@carpentryjoineryandcabinet6335]

Thanks mate, it's a really handy thing to be honest. For a start I didn't think it would see that much use, but I use it for mitred frames, like bolection molds for doors and all sorts. Dead handy when it is just there, you end up finding more uses for it.

[@Wattsjoinerybarn]

I went to Felder uk and looked at their machines. Some really nice stuff but every time I touches a hammer machine I could feel the drop in quality. I am sure they are great but can’t compete with older machines

[@bowerscustomwoodworkingllc]

What a great shop, thanks for sharing!

[@carpentryjoineryandcabinet6335]

Thanks very much. There have been a few changes in the workshop over the last month, a few bits done in some down time over Christmas. I'll try and get an updated video on things as they stand uploaded soon. Thanks again 👍

[@JonKaye]

Your shop 😮😍

[@carpentryjoineryandcabinet6335]

Thanks Jon, a lot has changed since this video, so I'm hoping to get an updated shop tour up at some point soon. Lots of new equipment. Thanks again. Ben.

[@KavanaghGTR]

Useful stuff, thanks

[@carpentryjoineryandcabinet6335]

Thank you very much 👍

[@KavanaghGTR]

@@carpentryjoineryandcabinet6335 It strikes me a different fence arrangement would be needed on the Hoffmann machine to cut the other side of the joint, as what is shown wouldn't be any good for the cutting the dovetails in the ends of the frame stock

[@carpentryjoineryandcabinet6335]

@@KavanaghGTR yes, there is another fence set up that you use to do the key slot on the ends. I actually still had them parts left from when I made the first lot of frames up, before there was a change in the job. So they didn't get shown being made. It's quite a rudimentary design. There is a stop with a grub screw that is in the aluminium profile you can see in the video. Then there are some loose stops that drop in the profile for the timber to push up to. It looks like it is going to be a bit rubbish when you first see it, but despite the appearance, it actually works quite well.

[@moldings_etc]

Nice description of the beaded frame. Looks like your powerfeed was moving away from the fence during your climb cut. Did it?

[@carpentryjoineryandcabinet6335]

Yeah, it always shifts back a bit, but the timber stayed tight to the fence. There is a bit of backlash in the arm to be honest, so you get that initial kick when the load goes on it, but it doesn't tend to creep any further so you get away with it. Really I need to replace a few of the tightening levers, there is a g clamp holding one of the adjusters 😂😂😂

[@markregan4857]

Nicely done can I ask what size you mill your timber to? Thanks and great little video.

[@carpentryjoineryandcabinet6335]

Hi Mark, It varies a little from job to job, but here everything ends up at 25mm finished thickness. Where two face frames join together I make the jambs 21mm, and if it's a single it's 42mm. The heads of the frames I make 32mm, Any horizontal transoms 38mm and the bottom rail is 50mm if there is no skirting, 55mm if there is (allows 5mm overlap for the skirts). Island legs tend to be 80mmx80mm, and the door rails and Stiles 80mm. On some jobs I do 80mm stiles and 100mm rails. Hope that helps. Ben.

[@markregan4857]

That’s Great thanks

[@adriansams6066]

Enjoyed that.. Do you use an Domino at all?. I have one and use it for face frames,carcasses etc and apart from that the only other Festool product I have is the Vacuum clamp system which is very good.Not really a Festool kids chap. I did look at the Morso an Hofffman and they look good but I don't do that many kitchens to warrant the expense. Keep posting as I really enjoy your channel.. :-)

[@carpentryjoineryandcabinet6335]

Hi Adrian, I've got the xl domino, although in hindsight I think the smaller one would have been more useful for what I do. I use it quite a lot, and to be honest if it died tomorrow I wouldn't hesitate getting another one. I think the morso and Hoffman only make sense if you're doing a lot of kitchens, and it's nothing you can't so with something else, just a bit faster. I've pretty much stopped doing windows/doors/stairs etc completely now, I'm about 90% kitchens, so it was worth the investment for me I think.

[@sethhamilton5824]

I've never seen that flat pointed nibbler or those mini bow ties... I'm in Canada and use glue, clamps and pocket screws. for beaded faces, that is way better than the router approach. I will have to look out for these machines.

[@carpentryjoineryandcabinet6335]

I know a few guys in the US who use those same machines, so I would imagine that they are available in Canada as well. The notcher is amazing, just the perfect tool for the job. But to be honest if you have a faceframe clamp table like the kreg one, then I don't think the dovetail keys are necessarily any better than a pocket screw, other than looking a bit neater from the back maybe🤷🏻‍♂️. So I'd definitely prioritise the notcher over the dovetail kep machine. 👍

[@cardinalwoodworks]

Very inspiring work, just subbed

[@carpentryjoineryandcabinet6335]

Thank you very much, 👍

[@plssmellmycheese]

Most informative and nice work sir👍

[@carpentryjoineryandcabinet6335]

Thank you very much, really appreciate it. 😁

[@cutedgebond7104]

Impressive , nice job !

[@carpentryjoineryandcabinet6335]

Thank you very much. 👍👍

[@drewbyscoobywho]

And all without so much if a mention of those wonderful dungarees!!! 😂

[@carpentryjoineryandcabinet6335]

Haha, you know it mate! 😂😂 Have I tempted you into getting a pair yet?

[@drewbyscoobywho]

@@carpentryjoineryandcabinet6335 😂 not yet, but Arry has ordered a green pair!

[@carpentryjoineryandcabinet6335]

@@drewbyscoobywho Laura was looking at a green pair last night 😂😂😂

[@drewbyscoobywho]

@@carpentryjoineryandcabinet6335 Arry's are from Amazon, they arrived today but she's not tried them on yet!

[@carpentryjoineryandcabinet6335]

@@drewbyscoobywho maybe she'll let you borrow them mate. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@170beacon]

Amazing stuff, really inspiring. I’ve been eyeing up a notcher for a while, however most of the machines I see when people are using them have a flat point, can you still do this with a 90 degree point? Thanks!

[@carpentryjoineryandcabinet6335]

Hi Tom, There are two types of the morso (well two common types anyway) there are the model f mitre guillotines which come to a sharp V point at the front of the knives. And there the model nf notchers, that have a flat nose (they're further divided into different size models, NFL, NFS, NFXL etc.) The two differences between the two are the flat front nosing knife, and the fence arrangement. If you are only doing the odd beaded fame, then the model f can be used to make the 45 degree cuts, then a sharp chisel used to remove the flat. As there is no fence arrangement for this you will have to rely on working to your pencil marks. If you are doing a lot then the nf models remove the flat as well as doing the 45s in a single stroke. They also have the fence and stops so you can get very good repeatability. The main downside is that they tend to cost about 5x the amount of the f models. If you are in the UK you should be able to pick up a decent model f for around £400 used if you hunt around a bit. An nf model is normally very hard to find for under £2k used and they don't come up very often. I suspect there are hundreds of model f guillotines out there for every model nf, as they're very common in the picture framing industry. I hope that helps? Ben.