How a solo carno survives getting "nerfed"

[@DGBumble]

Lmaoo Those troodons were me and my buddy and we died trying to kill that very stego

[@dinometta]

@@DGBumble lol rip to all of us xD

[@ErriesFuneral]

​@@dinometta Looks really painful T.T I don't understand why he killed you. Maybe I'm just lucky, but literally every stego I meet doesn't bother predators if they use 2 summons or try to eat a corpse, and they don't show aggression towards the living

[@GrendelCavern]

Good on those raptors for letting you back off from the kill without trying to finish you off. Love to see moments like that in these games. Then of course immediately after that you run into mixpackers.

[@dinometta]

@@GrendelCavern I was so relieved. Thought for sure they'd pounce me while I was weak and I'd bleed out

[@TheHuffur]

@@dinometta Meanwhile on their screen: *Black screen from bloodloss, 1% health, 0% stamina* Oh god! Oh no! the Carno won against the Cerato and it sounds like its just sitting down a couple of meters away from me! There is no way I can escape from it like this, gotta try and put up a tough front and hope it got hurt in the fight D: PHEW! it must have ran away, lucky me to get all these organs! You sitting in the bushes just a few meters away: * Oh god! Oh no! Omni! D: *

[@dinometta]

@@TheHuffur lmao probably xD there was definitely something else in those bushes when the fight first started. Still not sure what it was!

[@GigaPrime05]

While I understand the weight reduction, it doesn't make any sense for a lighter carno to have its speed reduced and still have horrible agility/turning speed.

[@dinometta]

@@GigaPrime05 If it didn't have such a good slide, I'd agree. But that slide makes it much more agile than it is without

[@dtbrex08]

I don't think carno needed a weight reduction, I just think it shouldve been more realistically balanced. Remove the cooldown and 10% stam cost on charge but make the charge itself drain stam faster than running, by about 2x, and remove the acceleration. Basically make it like 6.5 carno but without the 10% stam cost, but instead make it cost based on how long its held, like in update 4 all the way through 6.

[@Verdinhox2]

not only did it get a great drift, the charge has a noticeable speed bonus, it's over all still just as fast as before while charging but with added agility outside of charges

[@HBweisse]

Carno didn’t need a weight reduction at all tbh. It’s now extremely vulnerable to literally the entire roster except troodon and maybe dilo (just because dilo mobility sucks). Carno bleed resistance has been reduced according to weight, and as herrera it’s so easy to kill it, as well as as omni. Not to talk about cera, teno, dibble or literally everything else. In all honesty, carno is now just extremely boring because of its lack of decent fights (the best ones were vs teno which are now not possible), massive growth time and hard survaivability (its the most difficult playable for perfect diet amongst carnivores at least), its food drains very fast. I’ve tried carno a bit and I have an only one comment: it’s extremely boring. The only way to currently make it fun would be by halving the growth time or, make sensible changes to its stats and stop incorporating suggestions from the majority of the game player base , which (I’ve to say) for some strange reason hates carno the most amongst all playables. My view is that the entire game has become less enjoyable tbh because of a series of quite silly decisions

[@exieledaniel3880]

nobody expects the stego inquisition

[@dinometta]

@@exieledaniel3880 for serious

[@HaughtyToast]

There was a stego call right near stego diet food with two dead troodon. The flags could not have been bigger.

[@Hunter_17825]

the average stego and dibble player have started to share the same single braincell (all they could get) and started killing everything in sight, except that one carnivore mf you wanted to get since this is a survival game and you could die of starvation

[@dinometta]

@@Hunter_17825 for reals. Died to a dibble as galli today because bro thought I was the carno he was chasing. I swear they turn off their brains and just attack anything that moves

[@Hunter_17825]

@@dinometta yeah, it's truly a shame since It could be a fun playable with all the mechanics and stuff

[@Patrick3183]

@@dinomettagalli can’t outrun dibble???

[@dinometta]

@@Patrick3183 oh no, galli easily can. The dibble was just so focused on bloodlust that when I got stuck on a rock momentarily in the general area the carno had been, he threw himself at me thinking I was the target xD

[@eg-draw]

Couple of dribbles killed me just for fun. And I wasn't even a carnivore, I was freaking tenonto. Why?!

[@lolero72campos19]

A 3 ton stego (idk how much they weigh i dont play stegos) walking directly at u and making no sound to beat ur ass with one hit, thats nuts

[@dinometta]

@@lolero72campos19 bro weighed 6 tons and was fully grown x] sneaking around like he's a ninja

[@lolero72campos19]

@@dinometta I remember when I used to play a lot of legacy I loved the sound of my heavy footsteps (at some point cuz they are too noisy for the player but they make me feel real heavy) but here on evrima I just hear them just when they run and they still sound very light footsteps, I wish they had more sound, I mean atleast the heavy ones

[@andrewmcfarlane9324]

What's crazy is how heavy dilo sounds, it's so easy to track their heavy footsteps in a forest, yet a stego can be ninja quiet

[@dinometta]

@@andrewmcfarlane9324 seriously. I've been playing dilo again this week and it's basically impossible to initiate an ambush unless it is absolutely pouring rain

[@drag0nflash672]

While I don't mind the slide, I think I'd like to see Carno get a *drift* more than anything. Hit an angled drift while you run past something, bite its ass, and then turn back to keep running the direction you were going originally

[@dinometta]

@@drag0nflash672 that would be cool as heck

[@Vlalkori]

man the carno insta and infinite charge sure takes some getting used to, also this made me realize they should introduce the slide turn to more dinos (Dilo especially)

[@dinometta]

@@Vlalkori please and thank you. Dilo needs a slide that's actually useful

[@dtbrex08]

all creatures from my experience under stego and deino weight class currently, except ptera, have a slide, carno's is just really significant so it can turn to hunt smaller, more agile creatures easier. Dilo's doesnt do a whole lot though.

[@OHT-08]

@@dinometta dilo has a slide you just have to manually stop moving first

[@dinometta]

@@OHT-08 x] That's not how a slide is supposed to work, they're intended to allow you to change directions while running, at the cost of some momentum and control. If you have to stop first then it's not really a slide

[@dannyawesome8759]

Skillful gameplay as always, i have taken my notes for PVP as carno from this!

[@dinometta]

@@dannyawesome8759 thank you!

[@InfernoPower]

They need to bring carno up to 1500kg. The size difference between it and teno/cera was the only justification in picking it over them. I mean what's the point of downsizing a creature so unrealistically in a game like this anyway? Especially since Dibble is horribly oversized already

[@dinometta]

1500 carno wouldn't be too bad

[@fannimousebear2032]

Yeah... the dibble is to much oversized and to overpowered.... stego is 3 Tons!!!! Heavyer and the dibble can stun a stego.. that makes no sences

[@africananimalogist4190]

@@fannimousebear2032that does make sense lol that’s how it is for everything, you can stagger things up to 2 times your weight.

[@VeryLastIfried]

The difference between this and the dilo video was really day and night. In this the players seemed to be against you, in the dilo video, it was the game.

[@dinometta]

@@VeryLastIfried exactly! Dilo needs a serious look.

[@hamleteagle534]

Carno got a HUGE 500 HP Nerf, downsized to Cera's Size, didn't get turn adjustments and got a pretty big Charge Buff. Devs really just said ,,Man, fuck Dilos" when they made this Change to Carnos. Yet Dibble is mainly untouched

[@dinometta]

I really desperately hope that dilo gets some love soon. They just simply need it at this point. Even something as simple as adding carno's slide to dilo's movement kit would make them infinitely more viable

[@hamleteagle534]

@@dinometta Not a bad idea. I'd like it to give it back the title of ,,Night Terror" by increasing the damage & bleed when night comes. Would make facing Dilos in the night exponentially more scary. And maybe a turn radius buff...

[@wolfiitachii2947]

Not only dilos. Have you heard about omnis yet? They can't pounce a charging carno. They also can't pounce a carno that's standing still and holding rmb lol. That's prob why the omnis didn't even try to attack and just screamed

[@dinometta]

@@wolfiitachii2947 Yeah, I'd heard that. Luckily acro and I are bites raptors. We have been practicing on norden today and didn't have much trouble killing carnos as long as we took our time and were careful. Only problem though is most carnos aren't alone xD

[@hamleteagle534]

@@dinometta Omnis got a huge buff against Carnos, when pouncing u can choose between 3 options when you're latched on. Increased Bleed, Increased Raw Damage or Default. This is changed based on if u are holding left click or right click

[@DeFLilly]

It's so cool watching someone who knows how to play their dino. You pulled some crazy moves and used smart strategies. I also loved your narration, made it all the more interesting.

[@dinometta]

@@DeFLilly thank you :]

[@TieconTheGamer]

You’re such a cool isle KZbinr! You’re also really good at carno, I love the changes they made to it

[@dinometta]

@@TieconTheGamer thank you! I'm still getting used to the carno changes, but as I've practiced fighting them more over the last few days, I'm finding them to be quite reasonable to fight, at least as Omni and teno. I haven't tried on cerato yet

[@TheOverseerDebates]

The charge spam seems balanced 😅

[@dinometta]

The most balanced and fair indeed

[@ehsanakbar1701]

As a solo cerato, back in the old isle i was afraid of carno shitless, i would not dare go near one. Now however, i wouldn't mind attacking two.

[@dbulmer70]

I would never of thought one swing from a steggo would kill a fully grown Carno. Great videos please keep them coming 😊

[@dinometta]

Yeah, it's incredibly unfortunate! That running swing does about 2-3k damage

[@locknload6193]

Good isle content! I love how the music ended for the dilo fight, right when you go to eat your meal. Those touches are so overlooked for most

[@dinometta]

@@locknload6193 thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed the video!

[@xxMrbojanqlezxx]

That skin as straight out of jurassic park I dig it!

[@dinometta]

@@xxMrbojanqlezxx Thanks! It was just a random gen one!

[@Zeldas_Fruit_Loops-qy1zq]

I love your content!!! Your story telling is so good!! Genuinely my favorite isles creator!

[@Zeldas_Fruit_Loops-qy1zq]

I would love to play with you one day! (Glad to see some carno rep!!)

[@dinometta]

@@Zeldas_Fruit_Loops-qy1zq Thank you! I'm glad you enjoy! I'm pretty well around in game! Should be doing carno gameplay this coming week after my next video goes live, so maybe you'll catch me around!

[@nur0din]

12:06 I really expected the ".. or so I thought!" after the save.

[@dinometta]

@@nur0din oh gosh I would have been so sad xD

[@theninjascout]

I was the dibble in the beginning and ending of the video! You scared the hell out of me and I had to quickly remember how to use my abilities like blocking and sparring to fight back effectively. It's a shame that you crashed, it was such an interesting and lengthy fight, compared to what happened to me right after I healed when I got found by ceratos and melted in less than a minute...

[@dinometta]

Lol I was sitting in the bushes and you literally walked over the top of me xD It was such a good fight, I was having a grand time until I crashed! One of those fights that you don't know who is going to win until the very last attack! I knew I'd return to a dead carno, I was injured enough and the queue was long enough that there was no coming back from it xD Ceratos are the bane of my existence right now. They're everywhere, in huge packs, slaughtering everything in sight.

[@theninjascout]

If it brings you any closure, I killed your carno myself, I very much regret doing so now that I know that you crashed, because I thought you had just gotten distracted or were trying to pull something sneaky on me by standing still, sorry about that :(

[@X_Malice_X]

Great Vid! good info on dilo areas. getting lines can be a pain as carno.

[@dinometta]

@@X_Malice_X yup, West access is your best bet to find them. Got attacked by about 5 yesterday up there as a 30% cerato

[@oioioipoloi]

Such good content, I love the narrative form you choose to do. Steal my time, im watching more!

[@dinometta]

Thank you

[@_Surisen]

Nice video! Love seeing more carno gameplay :]

[@dinometta]

@@_Surisen Carno is always a good time

[@PHIL-zg3jh]

Damn. Seems like ive stumbled across a really cool creator here. Im definetly coming back for new vids but for now ima go watch everything else on ur channel

[@dinometta]

@@PHIL-zg3jh I hope you enjoy! There's a good pile of videos on here!

[@PHIL-zg3jh]

@@dinometta Lookin forward to watching em all :D

[@Shylock0031]

The chase music during the "Flight of the Carno" was so epic!!! Your music is, in general, way better than Acro's (sorry Acro!)😂😅

[@dinometta]

I've got pretty different music preferences, I'm glad you enjoy my choices in back tracks I dunno that it's necessary to compare my music choices to Acro's though. We've both got our own tastes in music and styles in content creation :]

[@kitkat5596]

Yaa I'm fine with its new weight and health change if its going to have a insta charge, also people complain about the bleed a lot for it but I think thats fine as well because its a good enough punishment for carelessness and makes the bleed resistant mutation relevant for it. But man, isnt it oh so fair to be rammed constantly in the tip of your tail and taking massive damage?

[@dinometta]

@@kitkat5596 I agree, as long as spam charge exists, I have no problems at all with carno bleeding out easily or even being pinned by two raptors

[@superchrispiks]

Wish I had buddies to play Carno with, I always end up wandering the map either scavenging or looking for something to do. The last cool thing I remember doing as a lone Carno was fighting off a pack of six Utahs, killing 2 adults, 1 sub, and a 1 juvie raptor who got cocky with his mock lunges. It was actually your videos that told me how to fight them off and stave against their bleeding, with the whole rubbing them against a tree tactic. I did end up having to run to the edge of canyon river, covered on one flank by a tree. But all they could do from there was mock charges trying to bait me from my position, but I stood firm, even taunted them with the 3 call. Lol The funniest part of the whole encounter was that I ran into them completely by accident and they assumed hostile intent.

[@dinometta]

@@superchrispiks To be fair, that's a pretty dang cool experience!

[@superchrispiks]

@@dinometta I suppose so! Although towards the end of the encounter it just mostly became a vicious staring contest while the food and water of every player present slowly drained, when the remaining raptors saw I wasn’t gonna move, they went off to go do something else, when they weren’t looking I hightailed it away across the man made bridge and into the shrubbery of the forest and then logged out, I wasn’t gonna take my chances trying to take that kind of attack again. The moment was tense, I recall my blood pool got below 40%. Probably my best combat encounter I’ve had when more often than not I’m the one getting surprised.

[@jordanlefley767]

Another great one. Keep it up :)

[@dinometta]

@@jordanlefley767 thanks!

[@Bambilinooo]

13:09 Omg i thought you killed a baby dibble. That sound is almost the same lol

[@dinometta]

@@Bambilinooo lol 😂

[@dtbrex08]

ok I see it now

[@ivoscheuermeier315]

Just here to tell you, huge fan love your videos alot, even tho i stopped playing the isle. I am impressed that you replied to every comment, so i had to leave a comment aswell lol.

[@dinometta]

@@ivoscheuermeier315 Thank you :] The Isle has been in a weird place for a while, and interests definitely come and go! But I'm glad that even if you don't still play, you can enjoy watching my content once in a while!

[@Rhaenarys]

My only complaint with the charge is just it seems to the hit box is not even close to where the other animal is. Like ive seen not just on here, but other videos the carno seems to hit when its not even close to the target. Thats an issue i think should be fixed. The charge is already good in the change, no need to make it easier to hit its target.

[@dinometta]

Yeah, people say it's latency rather than the actual hitbox, but it felt much more like I could just kill with my sonic boom

[@AdeKsis-zc3hm]

the music is making me feel the video

[@dinometta]

Good!

[@ciepra4476]

You call it a nerf, i call it a buff. We are not the same.. 😂

[@dinometta]

@@ciepra4476 oh I consider it a major buff. People just complained a ton about carno's so-called nerf, so this video is showing how simply braindead playing carno is now

[@Tabsgod1919]

@@dinomettaI can agree with what they did with carno except for a the fact they lowered its weight but did not changes to either the diet or hunger of carno I can understand the nerf to its bite force it makes people use charge way more which is what makes carno unique it’s buff to charge also helps it with making you use what it’s built for but I don’t understand the weight changes it doesn’t look like it would around cerato weight with them thunder thighs it’s got and they didn’t change the hunger or the diet it’s diet shows carno is a small game Hunter even most devs I believe describe isle carno as a small game Hunter it’s hunger however does not resemble the small game Hunter it’s supposed to be they can either increase it’s diet pool or decrease it’s hunger drain either one is fine for me

[@dinometta]

@@Tabsgod1919 I wouldn't mind that. Carno has to be constantly on the move, which is okay, but also struggles

[@kaiooo-_-1383]

@@dinomettathe thing is, that Dino u are playing in this video is not a carno, sure that dinosaur is balanced, but that is NOT a carno

[@Trampor]

​@@kaiooo-_-1383yes, and in real life dilo had hallucinogenic poison,cera had bacteria...

[@bronzedragon1022]

my god look at all those insane tail hits

[@dinometta]

@@bronzedragon1022 right??? Oh but clearly the dilos are just "skill issue" and should simply dodge better x]

[@bronzedragon1022]

@@dinometta aCtUAllY THe diLoS shOUlD JusT rUN AWay AnD NoT ENgAaGE. CarNO IS a sMAll GaME HuNTer AFtER aLL 🤦

[@nukeman360]

destroyed some mix packer stego eggs and then the ceras chased me down but will forever be glad I destroyed their eggs and reminds me of your diablo rampage lol

[@smokingun710]

Carno's fall from grace makes me sick...-ex carno main from Spiro...we used to hunt stegos ffs. Now we hunt small game.. Loved the dilo fight lmao, pure chaos :D

[@dinometta]

Yup, carno is reduced to... Whatever this is. The charge spam King I guess

[@smokingun710]

@@dinometta lol true, the spam charge is great!

[@GLUTENFREEbeelzebub]

the sudden death to the stego out of nowhere gave me whiplash irl, theres no way thats fair...

[@dinometta]

@@GLUTENFREEbeelzebub right?? I was so disappointed

[@AkireRosales]

ah yes... it was a pack of stegos bullying my juvenile diablo into a lake forcing me to drown that made me uninstall the isle.

[@dinometta]

@@AkireRosales many stego players are a special kind of bully.

[@comrade4536]

*spends hours to grow a carno just to die to a stego with rabies* many such cases

[@dinometta]

@@comrade4536 yup, very much the isle moment

[@mrchomperz]

​​@@dinometta tbf what else are you to do as an adult stego. Most things know you are too op to touch. Even deinos hesitate. At this stage in the game, it's carnivores having to go after carnivores usually and that leaves bored herbies. Not trying to justify what the stego did but I assume that's why so many are blood thirsty.. but nothing is more discouraging than dying as a juvie stego/Diablo to an adult of your own kind.. simply for existing near them. 🫠

[@dinometta]

@@mrchomperz Stego needs something that can properly fight them. Giving them power swing at this stage was a mistake

[@mrchomperz]

@@dinometta it was 100% not needed 😭 they were already overpowered and they said 'actually no give them more ammo'?! The isle dev moment.

[@Hunter_17825]

@@dinometta the devs really had to add spices in the mix saying "to balance it against Rex" years before it's actual release

[@OHT-08]

yeah dibbles grow really fast at the 1-30% growth, at 30% growth it gets to half the weight of a full grown, A CHARGED STEGO SWING ONE SHOTS A CARNO? WTF

[@dinometta]

It does, pretty sure that specific attack does 2-3k damage at its base level. Can 1 shot everything below dibble size

[@SilverSabertooth]

the fatal error at the end was tragic

[@dinometta]

I was so upset when it happened. That had been a good dang fight. One of those "don't know which is gonna go down until the last possible second" fights. And then fatal error said nah

[@gaster000]

The ending is one of the reasons I rather play Path of Titans(community servers) than the Isle, in PoT insta-kills are pretty much non-existent, with the exception of OHKOing the smallest dinos with Sarco's loud charged bite or a Rex's bite. Otherwise it would take minimum 2-3 hits to kill something, in the most balanced fights it would be ~12-16 attacks(8 if the attacks are with longer cooldowns that basically do what Carno's charge does in the Isle)

[@dinometta]

Yeah, that particular one was incredibly disheartening. I'd just barely reached adult 5 minutes prior. 3 hours down the drain instantly because a stego player decided to be the worst

[@TheBlueKio]

@@dinometta I'd be more down with the isle's hardcore aspects in combat if you could actually tell when a 6 ton animal was charging at you from behind. Rn if you're eating or drinking, a stego can run full sprint at you and you can neither see it or hear it before it 1 shots you. A lot of the game rn is try to eat -> get 1 shot.

[@dinometta]

@@TheBlueKio yeah, it's ridiculous. That stego ran quite a distance to kill me too. And since the sound they make when they go into power swing stance stopped working, I was only alerted to his incoming self at the last possible second(you can see me stop the eating animation a moment before the stego shows up on the screen). By then though, I was already too late since carno takes absolute ages to stop eating and start moving again.

[@sweetypredator1067]

the problem with pot its not really reward player for performing a perfect clean ambush,the creatures can take so much hit before dying that often make me feel like my attempt of ambush are pointless. In the isle too creature are pretty bulky but you feel much more impact on a succesfull ambush attack(not devastating has Bob but still more pleasant than Pot)

[@TheBlueKio]

@@sweetypredator1067 It's pretty forced though, not really skill based. The isle hands you ambushes on a silver platter; literally in this video a stego can run up behind you and 1 shot you at any time.

[@F3RZZ]

damn they still left the carno op

[@dinometta]

@@F3RZZ incredibly op

[@F3RZZ]

@@dinometta if i was mod i would just import carno from legacy lol it had good place in food chain

[@okamigod5141]

This gameplay is mad mad! Life was given to you by raptors, taken by stego. Great plays with carno, but he will fall of as bigger carnivoars get into game.

[@dinometta]

@@okamigod5141 Indeed, carno will only remain on top for a little while longer. The introduction of allo and rex will likely cement his role as the small game hunter only

[@okamigod5141]

@@dinometta I wonder ,will people find worth growin carno in that point... all carno players will switch into allo

[@dinometta]

@@okamigod5141 I think initially we'll see a similar influx as we saw with dibble, and dilo too. Servers simply overflowing with allo players. But eventually people will get bored of only being able to hunt their same species. Or they'll decide they want to see if they can hunt one as carno or cerato, and populations will begin to stabilize again.

[@okamigod5141]

@@dinometta it defenetly will be a thing in a beginning, aldo, first "big" carno that can solo easy diablo, and stegos wont be as safe as they are now. That will dramaticly change the game. But they can always change weight and abilitys cd,dmg,etc. As they said, the game is ment to be mercyless...

[@acronym6837]

Dilo is literally just carno food at this point, it makes me so sad dilo is preforming this terribly

[@dinometta]

@@acronym6837 ain't that the truth.

[@rah4327]

not first cuz pigeon beat me

[@mortenhansen2652]

Those dilos at the lake felt like you did as a dilo. 9/10 of those charges did psychic damage rather than physical.

[@sadrainynights]

Wow..... the stego at the end..........

[@dinometta]

@@sadrainynights stegos are literally the worst!

[@simonmendar5171]

I enjoyed your video. :)

[@dinometta]

Thank you!

[@JJ-ot9pl]

Love this commentary

[@dinometta]

@@JJ-ot9pl I'm glad you enjoyed

[@Nal_WT]

I dont think it was nerfed, i would call it a rebalance rather than a nerf, because they may have lowered its weight sure, but they litterally reworked how the raw works, it can now pretty much be spammed and activated instantly as you start running, and all this with no cooldown, which is what makes it pretty strong despite its health nerf, it was just switched to some sort of glass canon rather than a tank

[@dinometta]

Basically. The only issue is that the charge prevents other animals from landing their attacks. Raptors can't pounce a charging carno, even the ceratos tend to only get a nibble after they've taken the full charge to the face. I've been testing teno too and trying to land a tail slam on a charging carno doesn't seem to work anymore either

[@Melin11]

i love the music you use

[@dinometta]

@@Melin11 Thank you! Music sets the tone for each scene, so I spend a good amount of time choosing each track!

[@Tehownilator]

I can barely tell whether other Dinos are way bigger or way smaller. I guess you have to get close to compare size or use something as reference like certain types of trees or shrubs?

[@dinometta]

Yeah basically have to get close, but you do get a general idea how big they are at a distance based on their body structure in a lot of cases.

[@beneta0312]

and that my friend, is the reason why i play as a anoying herrera, only going down to drink water, pranking lying down stegos and watching carnos and ceras fight each other, only for the large pack of omnis stole the body yes, i am a coward, but at the end of the day im the one on top.... of the tree.

[@dinometta]

@@beneta0312 lol I don't blame you in the slightest! At least herra up a tree isn't destroyed by anyone but other herras

[@beneta0312]

​@@dinometta exacly, the only way to be one shot is when another herra got too hungry, or deinos when im drinking

[@cargoraygaming9274]

Playing a dino how it's intended to be played doesn't make you a coward... Your a herrera of course you shouldn't be roaming about on land face tanking bigger dinos.

[@beneta0312]

@@cargoraygaming9274 nah man, i am actually a cower

[@samskirim97]

17:48 I really do have a visceral hate for mix packers, as my head turned from what I was doing as soon as I heard you say that..

[@dinometta]

Lol I feel you there

[@thetinyrexy4798]

The only way i see this charge get cooldown is by making carno got insanely good bleed resist or at least very good one or give it more health, the only way to make carno still viable with charge cd since the bully allo is on the corner

[@dinometta]

I'd rather see carno get charge .. charges. Like dilo has 3 chuckles, dryo has two dodges, etc before they have to wait for 20 seconds. Give carno 5 charges. That would, in an ideal hunt, kill a raptor or pachy before the carno was out for 20 seconds. But would leave openings for dilos and ceratos to fight back better(pachy and raptor both have better agility and can jump to escape a carno, dilo and cerato cannot).

[@HaughtyToast]

Haven't played carno since the update but this playstyle feels right for it. Also if south plains is still a magnet for cannibal carnos I will avoid it. That was always my problem there.

[@dinometta]

Definitely avoid South plains, it's really one of the best places for carnos because of the openness of the areas and none of those pesky rocks, so carnos go there in droves and definitely aren't all going there to hunt migrating tenos

[@HaughtyToast]

@@dinometta The only other place I see a lot of carnos is north east lake for the same reasons. Not a lot of good places for them when most of the plains bioms on the map have hills that block the view.

[@dinometta]

@@HaughtyToast West rail is decent for them as well, just have to watch for the raptor packs that form around the pond there

[@ponder109]

oml you didnt even come close to hitting that dilo with like, half your charges in the beginning but they still registered

[@dinometta]

Yuuuuuuup! Poor dilos really just don't stand a chance. Even when they properly dodge they get hit

[@DodoTacticsGaming]

So carno instead of being a one track pony ambush creature, can now zoom around and make it a living hell to defensively position. at least under a certain size. But hey at least the carno got its steps in lol

[@dinometta]

Pretty much haha xD

[@VincentV5]

They should increase footstep volumes

[@dinometta]

For certain playables, absolutely!

[@ketslaketsl3486]

End was very nice

[@dinometta]

@@ketslaketsl3486 lol best part honestly

[@Tory-JJ]

I think i was on the hill to south of you after you were running. I was a fg dilo helping a small one get diet. I dont play for long times anymore because hackers keep killing my fg.

[@dinometta]

It's always possible!!

[@xxMrbojanqlezxx]

Maybe they do the charge like dilo venom with like 3 times you can use it then you have to bite and wait for them to recharge.

[@dinometta]

@@xxMrbojanqlezxx I agree with this sentiment

[@NadjaxxTV]

That Stego swing hit me in the heart, I hate Stego's :(

[@dinometta]

@@NadjaxxTV me too. I took out the massive sigh and "Come on dude, really?" that I grumbled when it happened.

[@NadjaxxTV]

@@dinometta Its the same with drinking, miss the old times when you actually had a chance

[@fannimousebear2032]

Stegos. And dibbles.. i hate them so much

[@felldin]

Carno looks stupid enough for even me to play now😂

[@dinometta]

@@felldin it's so braindead xD

[@MissDeviancy]

i still can't figure out what the difference is in the open and closed eye zones/areas - do closed eyes mean it's nighttime? I know its food source for herbis but what does it mean when the eyes close?

[@dinometta]

It means you're closer. Just like with migrations and sanctuary, the zone icon fills up the closer you get to it. So the eyes are "open" when you're far away and "closed" when you are almost there

[@lazarok0963]

seems like a lot of charging to get a prey down :/

[@dinometta]

@@lazarok0963 yes, but charging is braindead as heck now since it doesn't have any real limits

[@nur0din]

The music was great

[@dinometta]

@@nur0din :]

[@terrykrugii5652]

Something that bothers me about that first Dilo... I know that beach, I sorta know that area. I'm almost sure that even if faced with an experienced player such as yourself, his best chance would have been to run into the treeline and zigzag as much as possible. Carno's have such a tough time at speed making turns, that it still would have been possible to shake you. Sure, at his size there was definitely no chance of OUTRUNNING you. But losing you in the confusing mess that is the forest floor was on the table.

[@dinometta]

Absolutely. He should have made for the trees, rather than the open beach. Carno excels in the open where there's nothing to stop them.

[@terrykrugii5652]

@@dinometta I sorta get what he was going for with running into the water. If he was gonna die, he was gonna deny you your meal if possible. Unfortunately for him, you were both big enough and quick enough on the grab to make sure that wouldn't happen. Ah well, hopefully he learned from that encounter and didn't repeat the same mistake. As for myself... Gonna make sure I don't cross paths with you, if I can help it lol

[@demon2829]

10:38 like why does carno cannis exist? They dont have us on diet so wtf bro,what is wrong with them

[@dinometta]

@@demon2829 there's a mutation that allows them to eat each other unfortunately

[@demon2829]

@@dinometta oh,that's bad

[@demon2829]

@@dinometta btw when cera gameplay if you are even planning one?

[@dinometta]

@@demon2829 yeah, it's one of the mutations that I hate the most

[@demon2829]

@@dinometta that gives you diet? Or just straight food

[@InhumanLambent]

I was wondering why the HT servers were smelling so terrible. That carno was green with mold and cooties.

[@dinometta]

She searched far and wide for your stench, but got interrupted in her search by a tank

[@Rob-c1e]

I was getting killed by carnos on horde test they hit me with a huge gap between us. Similar to dibbles

[@dinometta]

Yeah, you can see it in the video too. I had hoped that at least the hits would make sense on my screen while playing carno since they definitely didn't when I played dilo, but nah, they don't make sense on the carno side either. Just completely silly

[@lechking941]

as someone who has found the most fun with omnivores i WILL NOT understand why some herbis have such a blood lust like. dam steggos are now top of this i dont like. now ill understand a croc hunting me as a bipi (love thoes fucking cute things) or any other carnavore hunting but gez. herbis got the brutal mindset of a carnavore in starvation

[@dinometta]

@@lechking941 yeah, herbivore life can be extremely dull at times, especially stego. But I can't understand why you'd play a herbivore if you weren't looking for a quiet experience with a few moments of action in between

[@JigeXoris]

We don't hate Stegos, we hate Players...

[@dinometta]

@@JigeXoris Fair point

[@MarkDrisch]

honestly this video perfectly shows why I don't enjoy playing smaller dinos. The hitboxes are so wonky and not suited to fast paced combat. I rather grow something bigger where you don't have to keep hoping the server favors you over the dino you're fighting.

[@dinometta]

@@MarkDrisch honestly, I feel that so much lately. At least when you don't get blessed by the server, you can usually survive and flee

[@calkingherper4189]

This is fucking cooked. I swear they just need to revert carno to how it was in update 4 and just fucking keep it that way. Theres almost no escaping carno now. Plus they downsized the hell out of it, when in actuality it was 3 tones, some even say 4 at the highest estimates. They took what used to be the most skillful playable and made it fucking braindead.

[@dinometta]

@@calkingherper4189 yup. It literally just feels like a press button = win right now and that's so disappointing considering how much more skill based it should be

[@holliegould3463]

a fg carno getting one-shotted by a steg?? seems totally balanced to me!

[@dinometta]

Oh yes. Stego running power swing does about 2-3k damage. Everything except other stegos, Dibbles, and deinos get one shot if they get hit. Oh but don't worry, running stego with its tail raised is very nearly silent so they can absolutely sneak up on you while you're eating

[@eg-draw]

Okay I must be really bad at this game because I tried carno just now and only two raptors killed me easily because for some reason my charge attack didn't hit them not even once 😂 I guess carno doesn't have broken hit box after all

[@dinometta]

@@eg-draw Carno has been adjusted more since this video xD I tested it with Acro the other day on Norden and the grace they give carno charge for latency and lag is more fair now(and in some cases, overdone, he couldn't hit my juvie raptor as a juvie carno, even with bites).

[@celestialraptor3710]

I have NO idea why they decided to revert the Carno charge back to this utterly braindead variant of it rofl. It does less damage sure, but that doesn't exactly mean much when you can just run back and forth spamming charge over and over and over until your opponent dies. And that's not even mentioning the utterly borked hitbox.

[@dinometta]

Yuuuuup x]

[@alphazura9207]

Who needs skill when you can just hold W and spam charge button lmao great game balance if you ask me.

[@dinometta]

@@alphazura9207 for real. Simply charge spam in a braindead act of destruction and profit x]

[@roymganesh]

What the best mutation for carno?

[@dinometta]

@@roymganesh I go photosynthetic tissue, gastro or hypermetabolic inanition, and then bleed resistance. Reduced damage from larger targets may be okay if you plan to fight tenos though. But I prefer the bleed resist since carno is extremely susceptible to bleed

[@roymganesh]

@@dinometta Ty metta😎

[@Charlieandp]

They really need to make 6 ton animals louder jeez a stego should not be able to sneak up on you

[@dinometta]

@@Charlieandp for realllll

[@IslayDogaYazc]

It's sad for the dibble

[@dinometta]

@@IslayDogaYazc In most cases, carno can't even touch a dibble. I just happened to find one that was still small enough to hunt!

[@IslayDogaYazc]

@@dinometta dont hunt the cute little ones 🥺😔

[@dinometta]

@@IslayDogaYazc Can't help it when I'm still small and starving myself! Gotta do what you've gotta do to survive sometimes

[@dinometta]

@@IslayDogaYazc Can't help it when I'm still small and starving myself! Gotta do what you've gotta do to survive sometimes

[@ThanksImGoood]

erm actually its technically a rework (its a buff)

[@dinometta]

@@ThanksImGoood very much a buff

[@rayztremex2292]

i feel really sad about stego players, Im a stego main but because of people like that one 20:06 i cant play stego anymore without getting targeted and people just say "Thats why i kill stegos" its kinda annoying but at the same time a shit for people that like stego

[@dinometta]

Yup. I used to main stego back in update 4-5.5, had a lot of fun raising baby stegos and traveling back and forth across Spiro as a peaceful giant. And then the aggro stegos started to appear. More and more often I'd get caught by people acting friendly to get close so they could kill me, and before long I became distrustful of other stegos. Eventually, the fun was gone. I couldn't find a friendly herd to wander around with and so I moved on to friendlier pastures in the omni population. These days though, you really just can't fully trust any random. Which is why I've become more solo/duo overall when I play.

[@AGEofCA]

Are you just tapping right click for the headbutt?

[@dinometta]

@@AGEofCA no, you charge as long as you're holding right click. As soon as you release it, you stop charging

[@AGEofCA]

@@dinometta I feel like i did this yesterday on carno and there was no headbutt animation at all? At anypoint are you releasing right click on any of these attacks? If not htat means the "headbutt" animation is a sign up contact?

[@dinometta]

@@AGEofCA nope, holding it down the entire time. The headbutt itself happens when you've landed the hit

[@AGEofCA]

@@dinometta Does this work the same way as pachy right click?

[@dinometta]

@AGEofCA no, pachy headbutt must be released to attack

[@umbra_K]

Honestly this video more then anything highlights how garbage Dilo is compared to other dinos, couldn’t out run your alot younger carno, can’t dodge attacks well and weave out the way, three dilos can’t be able to take down a carno, a fight between your carno and the Dilo around the 13 minute mark being completely one sided slighter with nothing the other really can do. It honestly feels like carno is just a better Dilo at its own job but now with the benefits of easy instant charges high damage and health pool. Praying they do something about them

[@dinometta]

@@umbra_K yup, that's why I felt that carno had to be my next video, to really just drive home how bad dilo is right now. There was quite literally nothing those dilos could do

[@jeremymiller7385]

It was new charge system it is just ridiculous, A lazy way for the doves to fix the carno

[@dinometta]

@@jeremymiller7385 yup, I'm not a fan of how brainless carno feels right now

[@jeremymiller7385]

@@dinometta what I like about gateway to legacy is the skill level on the Dino. This charge is skill less 👍

[@mechasov]

Dear lord im not in favor of this charge spam lol

[@dinometta]

Me either, it's such brainless combat x[

[@polish_pigeon]

Herbivores who randomly kill carnivores, mix-up or bodyguard should all be prohibited on every server and punished by perma-ban bruv

[@dinometta]

@@polish_pigeon I can't get behind that idea. Herbivore life is boring a lot of the time. In many cases, carnivores don't even bother hunting you(especially stegos, you can't make me fight those suckers unless I'm playing cerato). There's no reason to dull down their gameplay further by forbidding them entirely from being aggressive.

[@dinometta]

@@polish_pigeon body guarding and mixpacking though, that's just annoying and lame behavior

[@SpiderJosh07]

does charge do more damage then bite?

[@dinometta]

No, a full charge(several seconds of charging before hit) does 100 damage now. Bite does 150 I believe

[@TakeTheL_69]

carno got a buff. not a nerf.

[@TakeTheL_69]

(Yeah, its health was nerfed but holy! the new kit is awesome)

[@dinometta]

@@TakeTheL_69 I know, the title is a play on all the people complaining that carno is "in the worst state it's ever been" and "generally just weak"

[@TakeTheL_69]

@@dinometta Carno is probably the best it's ever been right now. Ik that people complain. (90% of the roster is smaller than carno...and it is a small game hunter...) It'S not OP cuz a fully grown dibble destroys carno. So like yah. People complain that carno is bad but go feral if they buff it

[@dinometta]

@@TakeTheL_69 yup exactly!

[@Tory-JJ]

A 50% dibble destroys everything besides a deino or a stego. Not saying much. Comparing poop to shit ​@Goatzillareal

[@Trexlol]

he received 1 buff and 3 nerfs, how can you call that a buff?

[@dinometta]

Because the 1 buff more than makes up for those nerfs. Even the speed nerf is not a problem because in charge, carno outruns everything except galli(even if those other species have the speed boost mutation). The weight/health nerf doesn't matter much when charging carno is basically unable to take bites and can't be pounced(and since he can charge spam it's an easy enough option to just charge to avoid taking damage as I did when the trio of dilos started chasing me). Overall, carno is easier to use than it has been since update 6

[@Trexlol]

@@dinometta I only see people who don't play carno praise it, those who play it don't want to play a bot hunter with infinite charge, it was enough to improve the dinosaur's stamina, they didn't need to make all these changes, the dinosaur was excellent the way it was, just a slight Stamina buff was enough

[@Trexlol]

@@dinometta Who really plays with the dinosaur didn't like it, 1300kg? serious? Carnotaurus was a fierce and large dinosaur, it was bigger than Cerato, it was almost the size of an Allo. summarized the dinosaur as a killer of small species, while it should actually have been a tenontosaur hunter

[@Trexlol]

@@dinometta is easier but weaker , weaker against what he really should face

[@dinometta]

@@Trexlol oh trust me, I agree. Spam charge carno is boring. I preferred instant charge carno over this, and that one was pretty awful too. Carno was in an uncomfortable spot due to charge being limited in amount, stamina usage, and knock down ability. All they had to do was change one of those three things and carno would have been doing great. A little bit more stamina (remove the mass stamina drop on charge activation) or the ability to knock things below cerato size down with a short charge, or remove the charge timer and give it a little bit more of a speed build up before it could charge. Any one of those changes would have made it better. Shrinking it and adding spam charge as its most viable way to hunt turned a playable that took skill to play into another pretty well brainless one :/

[@Mossy_Wombat]

Funny how people hate stego yet would have done the same thing in their shoes.

[@dinometta]

@@Mossy_Wombat I certainly wouldn't have, but I've got a very different mentality on how I play. I'm not looking for a kill count. I'm only ever looking for an interesting fight (unless I'm hungry as a carnivore, food is necessary there). But running up behind someone that's minding their business scavenging to one shot them as a herbivore? Nah, that's just a cheap kill.

[@sku4d_942]

Carnos more agile than dilos now😢

[@dinometta]

@@sku4d_942 already was, now he can just also use charge as a tool to run them into the ground

[@sku4d_942]

@@dinometta still waiting for justice for dilo😔

[@sku4d_942]

@@dinometta yea but u could dodge them as the charge had a big cooldown but now its impossible to win

[@dinometta]

@@sku4d_942 yuuuuuuup poor dilos ;n;

[@EvilNecroid]

i hate cannibals

[@dinometta]

Meeeee too

[@dominatorcomanddo8364]

I just think Dibbles and stegs need to be slowed down. They're ridiculously fast compared to carnivores. Either slow them down or make the carnivores faster. Also I just think, in general, steg and Dibble should have faster stamina drain for running. You're a ww1 tank, not a m1 abrams, that can zoom all over the map. Sprinting and using your defensive weapons should exhaust you. Instead a steg can run across the entire highlands lake and still have stamina to walk around the whole thing. Carnivores are light, fast and endurance hunters, while the herbs I mentioned are slow and tanky and a lot of movement drains them. The herbs are hunting the carnivores, herbs also need more things to do. So they're not bored and resort to hunting carnivore players. I feel like this would actually make it more enjoyable long dragged out hunts. Where Stegs and dibbles are wondering where the pack of raptors, dilos or carnos are at. Instead we got our herbs hunting carnivores and carnivores hunting carnivores. I mean it shows in every video. I play mostly on the islander server and it definitely shows there, fly a pt around and you'll see either herbs hunting carnivores or battling each other. Now you might just argue, we just need to wait for allo or T rex. I disagree. I think the line up of carnivores is more capable of taking down dibble or steg. If they just had some slight tweaks to stamina and speed.

[@Charlieandp]

The current carnis die in two hits from stego. Hunting an fg dibble is just not viable. Carnis need small or young or sick herbis to hunt not impossible death machines.

[@InkGraffiti]

I'd say yes to this for stego, not for diablo. a pack can easily take on a diablo and its still fairly slow for what it is. stego however, definitely. it shouldn't be in the current roster at all until we get other large tier critters outside of deino ( which i think ALSO shouldnt be in the game ) that can actually keep it in check. as it is, once youre adult stego you're invincible except to other stegos unless you're an idiot. its part of why stego tends to have a reputation, adult stego players are so bored they dont have anything else to do except ambush hunt anything they can catch lol

[@Rhaenarys]

​@@InkGraffitiagreed for the most part. But why the feelings on the deino? Just curious.

[@dinometta]

I think defensive herbivores like dibble and stego should be exactly that, defensive. They shouldn't be running down their predators. But also I think stego power swing was added much too early. It wasn't supposed to come until rex was added, and previously expected for stego to move to unofficials only until the whole roster filled out enough to deal with it. But clearly they walked that back in favor of giving already bored stego players another attack to allow them to be hunters

[@Bleghspread]

Not to be rude but.. Slowing down stego? Why? How? Which land carnivore from the current roster has struggles to avoid one?

[@henrycastle6584]

Herbovores are the plague of this game. Honestly they should cut their damage three and stego should be removed until there is something that can kill it in game

[@dinometta]

Cerato can kill stego quite easily right now using their bile. You just have to play it smart