How A Valorant PRO Uses RAW ACCEL (feat. DZ ZexRow)

[@WestProter]

If you’re interested, here’s another video where I aim coach a different pro: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aJ62Z3ShhN1po9U

[@branislavmatic9175]

off topic, but i reached LEM in cs with mouse acceleration settings like xantares (1.05) and i was just wondering if you knew what the curve would be in rawaccel since i'm so used to it.

[@WestProter]

@@branislavmatic9175 on their github they have a guide to the power curve and how to 1:1 it to cs

[@ИванФролов-з7ч]

How can I see input speed after 60 ms

[@DamagedAndroid]

This video is fantastic. I’ve been using raw accel for a year or so now and this is the best video I’ve seen that explains how to use the tool. I’ve relied off of experimenting, trail and error, and whatever info I can gleam from the post-your-curve channel in the raw accel discord and this video has given me a better understanding of how the things I’ve been experimenting with work.

[@WestProter]

I really appreciate it! If you want a really good understanding, check out the accel video from a few weeks ago, that goes in depth on the theory.

[@Lupus-et-Agnus]

I’ve tried raw accel today and instantly saw results. This video helped me get familiar with some of the settings and found a curve that feels right. I’ve never been more accurate while being able to turn fast. I no longer lift my mouse and adjust as often.

[@cookies3294]

what curve are you running? Im still looking at default linear curves and i know i need raw accel (played games for 10 years using a trackpad, which, if you dont know, automatically has an acceleration program installed, or else the trackpad would be SUPER slow)

[@Lupus-et-Agnus]

@@cookies3294 Raw accel needs to be configured to your preferences. I use the standard "classic" curve. If you want to use my settings as a starting point I'll list them. dpi: 3200 sens multiplier: 0.25 (makes it feel like 800dpi) rotation: 4.5 acceleration:0.01 cap type: input cap input: 70 Input offset: 15 Power: 4

[@igris_2000]

​@@Lupus-et-AgnusI hv been trying almost same curve as yours just my rotation is bit lower but I am still hving hard time doing 180 can you give me tip how I can improve it

[@Lupus-et-Agnus]

@@igris_2000 Increase the acceleration. This decreases the travel distance of the mouse and increases the speed of the mouse cursor (basically mouse move less, cursor go fast).

[@rjgaming475]

​@@Lupus-et-Agnus what is the difference between cap type input and output? I play at low sense so which one should I choose?

[@BeHappyTo]

I've only started fiddling around with rawaccel but these are the settings I like so far: Jump, smooth 0, input 5 or 6, output 2. Rn testing whether I like gain or not. Mouse I'm using is SPC LIX which uses PMW3325 sensor that behaves badly above 2100DPI, as tested by some reviewers. My natural usage is 1600DPI and that's what I prefer in most games and most importantly desktop use. In FPS games I might change it down a bit depending on game, will go anywhere between 800dpi and 1600dpi. So anyway I have it set to jump accel from 1600 to 3200 (because sens multiplier = 1) and I just lower it in game to 0.5. I get good micro adjustments and can still do nice flicks. Using finger grip, aiming with mostly wrist, but do make adjustments with fingers and arm. No rotation as my horizontal lines are very nice, 0 slope. 1.25 Y/X ratio. I've only used this for few hours but I don't think I can comfortably play FPS games anymore without rawaccel. Oh and I'm fiddling around with classic curves but I think jump is better.

[@14nxy]

no one cares

[@mezit0]

@@14nxy relax its just his settings

[@joshdeconcentrated2674]

I tried raw accel before but stopped using it because I found it pretty confusing at first. coming back to it watching your vids and I'm setting new top scores on aim trainers and osu. it's been an insane help watching your vids and getting help from the discord. thanks!

[@Laz_RBW]

hi I'm in your walls

[@joshdeconcentrated2674]

@@Laz_RBW the minecraft community stalks me wherever I go.

[@mostie]

so as soon as you came to the part of explaining how to get my acceleration figuered out I didn't understand anything anymore, you said something about my input cap x value needing to be as close to 1.7 as possible, i don't know what an input cap x value is and I don't understand what the number I got out of calculating as you showed in the video means

[@lilwombat]

I installed raw accel a few days now after watching your videos I'm suprised how intuitive it felt for me after messing with the settings. Im new to mouse and keys and it made so much easier to control

[@WestProter]

ikr. No one sees it coming first time not even me.

[@Vanquishlul]

im confused what do i do if my normal dpi is 800, do i now have to change to 1600 or 3200 permanently?

[@vilius230]

Try rotation. It allows you to hold your mouse at an angle and get the normal inputs. Made my superlight go from 7-8/10 comfort to 9/10 since I just hold it how I want to, not how I feel I need to.

[@mecha3895]

How does it work?

[@DamagedAndroid]

@@mecha3895 here is a video from Kovaaks’ KZbin channel that explains it. kzbin.info/www/bejne/bWStn51mqqZ9e7c

[@WestProter]

Ya I just didn’t feel the need to recreate one of the most popular aim videos out there tbh.

[@spacemanjr12]

what is rotation?

[@bee3D]

@@WestProterwhat video

[@Rimbatimba]

havent heard of zexrow since fornite days

[@Xammydraws]

Same

[@WestProter]

Hadn’t heard of him ever until he dmed me 2 weeks ago

[@noir5505]

@@WestProter LMAO

[@AM4N]

@@WestProter this comment was extremely unnecessary D:

[@Soulzwtw]

@@WestProter💀💀

[@lmnop291]

A pro everyone should consider: the most accurate aim anyone has is wrist aim. When you have to use your arm to aim you usuallly have to micro adjust with your wrist. Your accel curve allows you to use your wrist for all types of big flicks and micro adjustments. Meaning your flicks can potentially become as accurate as your micro adjustments.

[@lenaoxton2365]

I used natural until now because S4 recommended it in his ow guide, now I transferred into valorant and looking forward to try this out. Natural did felt okay but at some point it did feel like a burden.

[@aucoinbm]

Can you elaborate a little bit on why you felt Natural felt like a burden? I tried classic curve out for a while and even got some high scores with it, but it almost felt like I was fighting my mouse when aiming in an actual game. I guess I really don't like a delay when aiming even tho it makes sense for tac FPS'. Natural feels a lot more comfortable to me in game, even though I'm playing csgo and valorant mostly. I'd like to hear your experience of it.

[@silentaimer]

@@aucoinbm if it feels right to u then it is right it is just his experience not yours.

[@lenaoxton2365]

@@aucoinbm my experience with natural was perfect for ow, I could manage between a low sens and a high sens I set and it felt perfectly natural, i didnt need to learn any curve or something weird like that. just felt good. with valorant tho, I use my normal sens for macro adjustment and it accel when i flick (to check angels, to actually flick). cant really put my fingers on it and why it feels better, but my scores are higher (could be because more practice?), and my ingame aim is also overall better. i think it felt like a burden because i didnt always need higher sens than my lowest one, if that make sense. with that being said, raw accel is extremely preference based and you should only pick what feels comfortable for you. When I play ow with my friends, i go back to natural, because classic just doesnt hit the same on ow.

[@thexandman4590]

this guy put me on with raw accel, was skeptcal but i feel like i have aimbot in val now literally nuts. went from spraying for most of my gunfight ti flicking with confidence

[@oliv3318]

been waiting for this

[@Zamai2137]

Thanks, tried new curve and already got 3 new pbs in voltaic routine

[@boughrorat]

If i download this i'll be adjusting curves for an eternity

[@ReckqWow]

Hey west!! ive toyed around with this curve and it feels pretty good! i had a quick question - is this a good curve for someone who prefers a low sens generally on all games even without accel, but the speed at which i can 180/flick being fast is nice. is this a good curve for that? it feels like it. i run 0.14 in game 800dpi w/ the same curve settings at 8:14

[@nuhbaig4460]

can someone explain this part to me 5:50 what number did he ask to write down ?

[@laurosalvatore8900]

So, I'm just having one issue, and it is that my raw accel graph completely stops when I change tab, so I can't really record it because it doesn't show anything unless I'm focused on the raw accel window. nvm, if anyone is having this issue just run Raw Accel as administrator.

[@WestProter]

Perfect. Thanks for the fix

[@Michael-pc3my]

@@WestProter still havent been able to get past this issue. running as administrator. Any other fixes?

[@xPolqr]

@@Michael-pc3my Try setting aimlab/kovaaks to windowed fullscreen mode, that worked for me

[@HydroH2]

What playlist should i use for aim lab?? Because i don't have kovaaks

[@ilya4919]

so underated thank you :)

[@ficta1426]

where do i find this playlist "KovaaksPushingVioletMount"

[@WestProter]

Kvks sharecode system

[@ficta1426]

@@WestProteroh u just plug it in there ty

[@audiohostem]

Hello, dumb question: the live speed indicator (the little red sliding dot) started "pausing" whenever I clicked off of Raw Accel. How do I fix this?

[@anebay52]

sorry little lost, what is 0.25 and the 1.7 that you are multiplying at 7:57?

[@CraftyDex]

3200 dpi and 0.1 sens good with classic raw accel settings?

[@Overlordtgk30]

nice im here for more calculus today

[@snabFPS]

"Start recording" My PC: i dont think thats how i work.

[@Nazareth__]

Hey west I use .3 800 dpi in val. I'm using accel to flick faster bcz I feel mine is a bit slow. Any settings you would recommend? Also when ever I use accel it feels like I just have a fast sens and nothing slows down or speeds up idk if I did something wrong Edit: I tried 0.5 sens no accel and I think maybe thats the solution it feels good so far

[@adamlovrencak9010]

but how do i know what in game sens i should play after all these raw eccel ajustments ?

[@User08787]

2:59 is what map?

[@GarBageGhosteeE]

could u make a similar guide for games like apex, overwatch?

[@boom6551]

Hi west , tbh . I still dont get whats the correct way of finding the accel to be used or reading the graphs. Will there be any potential to have a step by step guide in the future ? Thanks. Appreciate it.

[@WestProter]

What part of the video do you get lost at?

[@chwthlx]

hello, does it save your settings when you close the applicatio

[@Destractoid]

I am a kovaaks amateur, and I am super confused. I used the playlist at one point in the past, but now need to do it again on a new pc, but I cannot for the life of me seem to access it again. Whenever I input the code it says "error, already subscribed", and I cannot seem to actually find it anywhere.

[@WestProter]

Go to the kvks discord for tech support, idk

[@merlinzoum]

I did install this tool but I really dont know what should I do to get better aim with it.

[@ryanBMR]

Do you have his exact settings so I can try them out and adjust from there

[@swrtval]

i use natural 0.31 1600 dpi what should i do

[@coden2676]

For valorant, does raw input need to be turned off in settings for accel to work

[@WestProter]

It shouldn’t matter

[@coden2676]

@@WestProter thanks for the quick reply, ive been using raw input off and i already am seeing improvement, ive been hardstuck ascendant 3 and i finally just hit imm1 again lol

[@joshuasedaghat7413]

Thanks for the video. Only thing I don't understand is what you're saying we can try setting acceleration too. Can anyone spell it out for me?

[@Certified_aimer]

My brain is going to explode

[@MVPmailman]

just wondering some people opinions. I have been playing tac fps and aim trainers with the same curve for about a month now but have recently started playing overwatch. Should I adjust my curve to better suit a fast tracking game even though im so comfortable on my current curve or even go no curve?

[@nerrvous1]

i use the same curve in overwatch if im playing hitscan. but i adjust my in game sens slightly (usually a tiny bit higher then what id use in valorant)

[@sadness5413]

Hi bro, i really like your content, is raw accel allowed in valorant tournaments/lans and if it is are there any pros who use it?

[@MysTicReflex]

it is allowed atleast according to google lol

[@sadness5413]

@@MysTicReflex yea but how are you gonna set it up in a LAN?

[@lucaseden2601]

at just after 8 minutes in when explaining acceleration wdym as close to 1.7 as you can?

[@baconman7902]

7:49 I absolutely have no idea what your talking about in this part, can you explain it more simply?

[@WestProter]

Basically you don’t want it to accelerate too far so you cap it. This makes consistently understanding speed easier. Usually you don’t let the graph go past 2x, and you play around with it in game and kvks to figure out an exact cap

[@WhyNot-ms8wm]

I have a question that I really need answered. What is raw accel mainly used for? To speed up flicks or to have essentially two different senses if you have 15-30 offset

[@WestProter]

Those are pretty much the same reason. I have a few other accel videos that go in more depth. Check out the why radiants use raw accel one

[@jollibeegobbler1519]

How do you set up the OBS?

[@Mearezwartfrfr]

do you need to let the program running?

[@xhale8064]

Even when I turn acceleration off completely and disable it, my sens is still super fast. Shutting down the program completely also doesn’t fix it. How can I go back?

[@akio_VAL]

ive tried it and it crashed my game with no error, does anyone know what could be causing this, I turned raw accel off and it stopped crashing

[@ObnikOfficial]

is there any chance you do some reccs on aimlabs playlists? i cant seem to find many good ones out there :(

[@WestProter]

My number 1 recommendation to aim lab players is just to get kvks and stop wasting their time. There are some things I like abt al, they have some scens with ok-genius concepts, all of which are executed pretty poorly. If the community was capable of editing their built in scens ok cool then it’s fine, but where you have to start from scratch or pull up some weird file manipulation just to edit a scenario you didn’t make, it doesn’t have the scen diversity to be used. If you absolutely had to play al, Ik rA strafeclick is a good scen since I told odb to make it for me, other than that they have some hnA guide variant that may or may not work idk, and that’s it. With this level of limitations, you can run the same 3 playlists every day, but you’ll miss out on a lot of important skills. All for the sake of saving the price of a Val battle pass. Idk why anyone would do that

[@alex_uhh]

What do you think about the power settings, the one used in Csgo? I swear the times I had accel on in cs customaccel 3 with a 1.05 exponent, I had the most fluid and adaptable aim, used a low sens and then my faster long angle flicks would be incredibly easy

[@WestProter]

I never played cs so I never bothered setting them up personally.

[@alex_uhh]

@@WestProter Fair enough fair enough, if you ever do check it out lmk what you think of it

[@miks9397]

Are you supposed to change the raw accel dpi (charts) before or after you switch to a higher dpi that 800

[@tarunrudrashetty3712]

My aim in valorant has been bad for a long time but I didn't know why because I had 90-95% percentile in most static scenarios but when I tried the dynamic tracking ones I only got 2 bots on wpv ascent and bottom 20% in basically every pasu scenario lol.

[@WestProter]

Static is overrated for val

[@soloverse.johhhhny1529]

@@WestProter so would u recommend only precise and reactive tracking and pasu over static?

[@WestProter]

@@soloverse.johhhhny1529 not exactly. Ts is nice. I was thinking static clicking when static was said

[@AndresLozanoCoD]

DPI?

[@s3v7nnn]

One small con to rawaccel: your mouse stops working and only works for 5 seconds after unplugging and replugging it in

[@neonoir__]

There is a 1 second cooldown built in to rawaccel when switching sens so it could get whitelisted by anticheats

[@miks9397]

How do you see your velocity and gain? And how do you see them going up to 500?

[@nachos5142]

There's like a google sheet helper that uses the lookup table to have a combination of natural and jump accel

[@joshuasedaghat7413]

maybe a dumb question, but how do you know if your cap is 1.5x or 2x your starting sens

[@awttygaming2510]

1000 DPI BUT 0.6 hip in apex with a 2x sens multi can you tell me how to fix the mouse lag please?????????????????????????????????? my aim is really good with rotation of -8 it helps with the speed but ther mouse lag is killing me

[@danielarmoza6692]

where is the playlist?

[@Hbryry]

Is there a way to have this setting permanent or do I have to load up the program every time?

[@joe-t4]

the playlist is only for kovaak? i can't find aimlab tasks

[@WestProter]

ye

[@BenniiF]

All i need is short definition of each setting: 1. What Acceleration do? 2. What is Input and output? 3. What is offset? 4. What is Power? Then i can easily change what feels off with my curve

[@WestProter]

Unfortunately, you’re in the minority so yt promotes this video instead of the one where I do that nowadays

[@smeetie2956]

Does Raw Accel hurt ur aim long term for example if I were to stop using Raw Accel after using it for a year would my natural aim be worse than it was before? Also is there a “best” graph layout or curve for valorant im currently using natural.

[@WestProter]

For the first question, I would recommend training with it off somewhat frequently to avoid under developing certain muscles, for the second, if a curve works it works

[@Seeroach]

I kinda don’t get the last part about the 1.7 max speed. What am I supposed to look at on the graph in order to find a calculation for it

[@WestProter]

It’s just an approximation

[@blvcksnipezzz7696]

can I use it with 1200 dpi or should i just go with 1600?

[@brk_official4835]

Can you get banned for using raw accel or is it safe to use?

[@danielchoi4202]

Thanks for the video! If we don't have Kovaaks, what should we do on Aim Lab to find our numbers?

[@scropoiiontop2212]

NV Yay strafe

[@uthonias]

so what shal I do if im comfortable with 1600dpi .125, BUT whiff long range/microflicks?? how would I keep it at a steady .07-.09 ingame, then ig speed up and cap at my comfortable sens .125

[@WestProter]

You could experiment with it, but at where you’re at right now, it’s more of a training issue than a settings issue

[@selvangunawan9367]

Does raw accel useful with 400dpi? If you can, can you try helping me because I really wanna try raw accel.

[@RichySama]

How do you do the obs part? Everytime I click on another program other than raw accel raw accel doesn’t move lol.

[@WestProter]

Try to run accel as admin

[@RichySama]

@@WestProter ah thnx, keep up the vids.

[@Eternalh_]

Are you supposed to train with or without the mouse accel if you are using it ingame ? I used to have it during almost 2y but never succeed to improve, I was rellying too much on the accel itself to carry my aim. (Sorry for the bad english I'm not a native speaker)

[@WestProter]

Train with it: you practice feeling the curve, understanding it, and prepping for in game Train without it: you practice control, your more able to isolate specific joints, your more able to create difficulties Do both.

[@SinOfKin]

I doubt I'll get a response but lets say I get the perfect amount of accel on a .732 sens (400dpi) but .732 isn't the optimal base sens. How can I decrease the sens and still keep that level of accel?

[@kzmuni]

Can you give me the settings I should use for 0.23 800dpi

[@volumecheesy2566]

I keep overflicking and underflicking the hard bots in the range of valorant, i average about 18 kills a go but i wanna make sure i improve. I do aim lab precision based tasks and always get top 1% but as soon as i take it into a game i just miss easy shots

[@WestProter]

What do you do on al

[@volumecheesy2566]

@@WestProter usually some gridshot, spidershot, microshot and motionshot. I also have kovaaks but i dont know whats better yet as im new to fps kinda

[@WestProter]

@@volumecheesy2566 maybe follow the hnA guide with some dynamic? The way you currently train in al you’d be better off not training at all

[@volumecheesy2566]

@@WestProter 🤣rip 120 hours in al but i will give it a shot ty

[@WestProter]

@@volumecheesy2566 lol I wasted my first 250 dw

[@justdavidgg8890]

When I played fortnite I got used to hellaaa slow sens like my friend tried my sen and he higher the dpi by 800 to 1600 and he liked that so my sen is 500 dpi 1.4 what should I change it to pls tell me what I should change it to so I move my mouse pretty fast so I have to move my mouse like 3 time to do a 360 and I have a big mouse pad

[@ja-no6fx]

KovaaKsPushingVioletMount this isnt in your list of playlists. It doesnt show up in kovaaks either.

[@nuhbaig4460]

i play really fst sense with 1600 dpi and 0.294 sense in game what type of curve should i use its really hard for me to hit long range shots

[@jaylucid6299]

what number did we write down before?

[@XM06]

Yoo zexrow

[@manx8116]

i feel like my mouse accel curve is weird AS FUCK, and idk how itll go. ill try and kepe it and mess around with it. Praying for the godsens

[@chainbreaker8909]

may I ask what is RAW ACCEL?

[@Unica25.]

when i tried downloading it the windows defender popped up. what do i do when it happens?

[@ValioN77]

even with this video i still think I need PhD in rocket science to use this software :/

[@kazumi8104]

What would be a good mouse acccel settings for 800 0.25 ?

[@WestProter]

Not how it works

[@lMagicKaito]

I didn't understand anything but thanks for the video.

[@joe-t4]

I'm really confused tbh it feels so complicated especially the acceleration part even tho I have rewatched the vid for a lot of times

[@gabucox]

I typically play 1600dpi .17 in valorant so would i just keep the sens multiplier at 1? or should i go to 3200 and use .5

[@WestProter]

Either. Doesn’t matter a ton tbh

[@gabucox]

@@WestProter if my offset is 1 is there even a point to put it at 1 or should i keep it at 0

[@WestProter]

@@gabucox 1 offset could make a difference especially on a classic curve

[@vvsforzaza]

godayum we use the same sens im plat btw

[@dwomps]

The first number that I got was an average of 4 counts/ms and subtracting 10 (flat part of my curve using power of 3) from this would give a negative number. Does that just mean my input offset is 0?

[@WestProter]

It’s not an exact science. Play around with it

[@Viktoria-ys7hl]

i am really confused. HArd for me to follow. The Offset is negative when i do it this way and i cant find your playlist in aimlabs

[@Cosmicmorales]

Just play on a normal low/mid sensitivity bro.

[@ИванФролов-з7ч]

How can I see input speed after 60 counts/ms

[@itthipornprachapornsuk3850]

Should I use Both Cap Type? Or pick one of Input,output?

[@WestProter]

Whatever gets you the result you want

[@ja_fitness06]

6:48 how do I know by how much my sens is multiplied

[@WestProter]

Just look at the graph

[@Vo1dWalk3r7]

hey I saw a vid of urs where it was about how pivoting on ur arm was bad and only rlly worked for games like cs where aim is mostly horizontal so would u suggest not pivoting ur arm at all and floating it above the desk, because if so I really struggle to make that comfortable for one it gets tiring which is natural at first but it just feels awkward to do, would positoning my chair higher/desk lower help as it could maybe be a posture thing idk?

[@WestProter]

Not exactly. Think of pivoting in that context as the lack of the ability to move your arm vertically. It’s not the pivoting motion itself that’s an issue, but rather the idea of an unmoving pivot point. Your arm can touch the mouse pad, just don’t have so much pressure on it that it can’t also move up down and across your pad. If that is impossible your chair may be too high

[@Vo1dWalk3r7]

@@WestProter ok thanks another thing i wanted to ask about was micro adjusting it makes perfect sense to do it, however in game I can never do them I think its a mental thing I feel like ill take too much time focusing on the micro adjusting ill just get killed

[@WestProter]

@@Vo1dWalk3r7 the part of your brain that allows you to understand the motion of a micro adjustment and that you use to tell yourself to make them is different from the part that understands what muscles need to move and actually makes them. If you can do them in practice, when fighting just focus your conscious mind on the head and allow the adjustments to happen

[@TashlinNair]

can you make a decent curve for 1600dpi 0.125sens

[@ver1fy487]

This makes no sence... How am i supposed to know if my counts/ms is between 12 to 15 or 20-25, if it the graph only scales from "0-50-100-150-200-250-300-350"??? How do i change it so i can see the SPECIFIC ms?

[@WestProter]

between each marked number (50, 100, etc), there are unmarked lines of equal length. From there you can find a close enough approximation.

[@ver1fy487]

@@WestProter Okay, imma try and watch the video from start and try all over. I don't know why this is so damn confusing to me

[@ne0n6]

im having such a hard time lol , i play on 800 dpi 0.3 ingame and still cant figure this out

[@Cosmicmorales]

Just play on a normal low/mid sens bro, uninstall the program while ur at it too it eats up ur CPU, make ur graphics and resolution low too for low input delay.

[@Baconator3r]

I'm trying to use it for a different game and it won't work

[@pangoking7672]

Which pros use this. I might try this

[@fireblaze6837]

Wait, so rawaccel is allowed in pro play, correct? could have swore I heard somewhere that it wouldn’t be allowed on LAN tournament pcs?

[@WestProter]

We're 90% sure it is, if not he just won't use it when lans happen

[@fireblaze6837]

@@WestProter Thanks for info. Guess it's time to get rawaccel! lol.