How A Woman’s Expressions While She Confesses To Lies Contradict Her Words - And What It Means

Dr. Phil explains lying behaviors and how a woman who claims to be remorseful exhibits them during her interview.
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[@katierooney8750]

She has no remorse whatsoever !!!

[@davejones1185]

100% she's a psychopath

[@babyhandgrenade4004]

@@davejones1185 sociopath

[@Maz-zb9uf]

@@babyhandgrenade4004 what the difference between them

[@AFVfan1]

@@Maz-zb9uf Psychopaths are “born crazy”. Sociopaths seem to be “normal” in their early years, but slowly begin to show abnormal behaviors over time.

[@swimfast724]

I think she's actually been officially diagnosed sociopath or psychopath. (I don't remember which)

[@swimfast724]

You don't need to be a doctor to see she is so proud of lying and tricking other people

[@patriciaodwyer1021]

She is horrible!

[@swimfast724]

@@patriciaodwyer1021 absolutely

[@tararivera5411]

She looks just like Chris Watts when he was talking about killing his entire family

[@babyhandgrenade4004]

I was thinking the same thing. This is common with people with NPD and that are sociopaths.

[@dclibra2394]

Or talking about NOT killing his entire family.

[@missmoxie9188]

Good eye

[@swarajboruah4261]

@@babyhandgrenade4004 yes. Exactly. Chris watts on steroids

[@denaahern]

It is honestly so sad that she's proud if herself for this. Hunny there is NOTHING to be proud of.... Anyone can manipulate and lie, we don't do it because it's disgusting 🙄

[@simonamelody5571]

Yeah. The thing she said with how much mind power it takes to do this... it’s just sad.

[@swimfast724]

I think she's actually a diagnosed sociopath or psychopath. "Antisocial behavioral disorder" maybe?

[@JustKelso1993]

@@simonamelody5571 Imagine what good can be done with that mind power and concentration too. She was correct on the fact that it would take so much effort to not slip up and to be so aware 100% of the time. It is impressive that she can do it but she is using that for the completely wrong reasons. It is a shame.

[@lou70x7]

You know some people smirk when admitting to something embarrassing. I could see myself smiling while admitting this, but not from pride

[@TheNicholle23]

TELL EM DENA!!!

[@minnipearls3633]

I feel so bad for the people she took advantage of.

[@tracylopez7666]

This woman has the most FLAT expressions. It’s like she has no soul or emotions. She’s a sociopath. People like this never change.

[@user-nh5zd3ic8r]

Nope

[@swarajboruah4261]

Absolutely. No emotions. Blank stare and eyes. Sociopath at it's best

[@MyDuckSaysFucc]

Smiles during her little confessions, then quickly schools her emotions to look guilty. 😂

[@ignorantslut6507]

I'm going to Wendy's y'all want something?

[@rc3wondere]

Chocolate frosty

[@ladydovedove2240]

chocolate frosty and a medium fries and a sweet tea if its not too much

[@pthesmith]

Spicy chicken nuggets!

[@fairladykd6734]

Oh Thanks! Vanilla Frosty please!

[@frodolover58]

Spicy chicken

[@Kennedy-mo3no]

LMFAO when they compared her face during the interview to when she was sitting in the chair 😂😂😂😂

[@riverstone9005]

I know! 😂

[@arnoldhernandez1910]

Fckn emotionless robot

[@CJLOVE23]

OMG 😂😂😂

[@CristianMartinez-cr1eo]

They did her soo dirty! 😂😂💀

[@Maz-zb9uf]

Yep she got proper exposed 😬

[@jessicajamesspeaks]

People who fake having cancer and other chronic illnesses makes me furious 🤬

[@carolyngrey2853]

When i try to lie to my mom i will start smiling but its not dupers delight its bc i know she knows im lying lol

[@desisirrelevant]

This episode has opened my eyes as to my disgusting behavior. I have recently noticed a pattern in my behavior of lying to people for no reason. I had no idea how much pain it can cause to the people around me. Thank you doctor Phil for opening my eyes.

[@justjaein]

hey at least ur holding urself accountable good for you

[@dungeonslayer8122]

Self awareness goes a long way

[@kimwaddell4218]

How could she fake cancer. About 10 years ago I thought I had breast cancer that's no joke

[@miap6844]

There’s a fairly recent Dr Phil episode where there is debate as to whether a 19 year old mother shook her baby before him dying in hospital. This mother also smiles through her lies.

[@LetItBe007]

Do you remember what the video is called? I mm trying to find it

[@miap6844]

@@LetItBe007 ‘My 3 month old grandson was murdered. Who is to blame?’

[@LetItBe007]

@@miap6844 thank you!

[@katattack1016]

I know it's not the same but wen I'm in an anxious awkward situation I smile out of anxiety. Not because I'm proud of a situation or lying.

[@jennarobinson2965]

this truly disgusts me.., from having a father who ACTUALLY had muscular dystrophy and died from it… to see her walking around and able to enjoy life is despicable

[@georgemc7713]

Are we not going to talk about how she starts to smile again when she talks about her lies and how Dr. Phil asks if she sees it in herself? 4:11

[@Tiiipico123]

I was gonna comment the very same thing! Excellent observation.

[@CJLOVE23]

Yes!! Good catch!

[@miap6844]

Love how Dr Phil provides commentary on the science of lying, though he still relies on polygraph tests (an unreliable exam) on his show. You even learn this in first year Psychology classes!

[@ladyweasellou3367]

It's actually pretty funny when they put her sitting there side by side with the tape because you can watch her expression change more and more with every little thing exposed or pointed out. What is messed up about it is that you watch her go from bewildered, to dismay to out right anger.... Never shame, never sad, never remorse.... It just went to angry.

[@tiffymarieseestheteamarie4454]

3:49 her friend looks so sad. Terrible person she is for this. Who tf lies about cancer?

[@fmlunchbox]

He really hit her with the side-by-side, got damn.

[@korigarbison2259]

I hope dr. Phil can get her help because she needs it

[@jamesroboyle]

She’s gonna need a lifetime of therapy if she’s gonna make any progress whatsoever. Constant high maintenance stuff too .

[@DrShaikZ]

Woaah this woman could be lying about her existence. She may not even be alive.

[@Fleeto2006]

Lol

[@jaeboogie2786]

Her eye's are just dead. scary AF

[@reginaphalange1789]

Her eyes are dead!!

[@tfpauliina]

That tells how bored she is.

[@kevindavis296]

Everything she said is 100% honest. When did that start? 😂🤣😂😂🤣

[@nowmowcow5191]

I’m so glad the comments are open for this video

[@Boomiela]

I don't smile out of pride when I lie. I smile out of embarrassment

[@lou70x7]

Ty. Idk why no one relates to this

[@shirleyjenlion187]

These are the kind of Dr Phil episodes I absolutely love- him exposing liars and scammers and having them get exposed on TV with a ton of people watching.

[@dustinnunez5077]

I had aunt died of cancer I have a Cousin who is dying of cancer. She makes me sick

[@StanMo18]

Sorry to hear that

[@IAmSuzyQ]

Duper's Delight isn't actually what she's displaying in those clips. Duper's Delight is seen when the person is lying; a subconscious reaction to being proud over their ability to trick (dupe) someone. In these clips she's not lying, she's admitting she lied and describing the lies she told in the past. What Dr. Phil is calling "Duper's Delight" in these clips, is just her embarrassment, coming out in the form of nervous smiling or laughing. Don't get me wrong, Duper's Delight is a real thing, it's just not what's going on with this woman, in those particular clips. Her smiling, and being on the verge of laughter, is simply incongruous emotion. Once you're told about these little things liars do when they're lying, you'll start to notice people doing it more and more. You start to feel like a human lie detector...it's kinda fun. 🤷🏼‍♀️ *This is my understanding of the Duper's Delight phenomenon; what I learned in school and further researched after the fact. By no means am I suggesting that I'm an expert in detecting lies, just to be clear. 👍

[@cindy846]

Yeah tbh I felt she was just nervous, she does know it’s embarrassing to do that.

[@DaWhiteWolffie]

I don't think she was nervous. I think she's a sociopath and can't feel nervous. I think she was happy to confess how 'smart' she was in tricking people.

[@nineteenfortyeight6762]

I think she's delighting in the duping she did in the past. Not the usual use of "duping delight" but it's apt.

[@Jewels-B]

Thank you.

[@IAmSuzyQ]

@@Art_thecl0wn I see where you're coming from, and that makes perfect sense.👍

[@tiniestpotato]

My mother and father are like this. When you sense a person is like this RUN, even if you arent a hundred percent sure. Risking it isn't worth it.

[@traceychalkley9946]

With the exception of someone who is delusional and genuinely believes what they are saying, ppl always know when they are making up a lie. This woman knows she is lying. When she says she doesnt always,know when shes doing it, that's a lie in itself. She is loving every moment of this.

[@ethanglass5721]

She does experience shame however fleeting it is. I am wondering about her life growing up as a kid through her teen years, quite possible she was ignored by a parent or both parents. Not saying this to excuse what she did, but what the possible reason was for her to start these lies. There must have been a lot of judgment from important people in her life or the pressure that is unconsciously put out by society.

[@babyhandgrenade4004]

I said something similar in my comments. This can be caused by a parent who expect Perfection from you or by an abusive or neglectful parent. Like if they're always drilling it into your head that you have to be perfect then it can cause this. Still wrong.

[@nicolecorter3533]

This is actually really disturbing.

[@_NeelyOHara_]

Why did she even come on this show? More attention? Trust no one!

[@0103harleyq]

The podcast, Sympathy Pains, brought me here.

[@kaibishop52]

Are we still getting Wendy’s

[@kevindavis296]

What?

[@amandarichardson1282]

I knew someone like this before

[@embro2.0]

Same.The damage that these people leave in their wake is devastating. They are truly evil.

[@riverstone9005]

That side by side comparison at 2:59. 😆

[@Char45-p1c]

Firstly have it noted I don't agree with anything this woman did. And I'm glad to see the update stating that she's been sentenced. But Dr Phil said that when someone's lying there's 'leakage' and showing the videos of her interview as an example...she wasn't lying in the her video interview. She telling the truth about all the lies she's told...she's proud of the lies and that's why she's smiling. But she's not presenting any leakage or micro anything from lying because...in the tapes we whitnessed she was in fact telling the truth and confessing to everything she's done 'i lied, I told a big lie'. (2nd year junior psychiatric doctor)

[@dionneg316]

Dr. Phil I was actually trying to reach you after this episode was exposed at Greenville camp. This is where Sarah was serving her federal sentence. And although I to consider myself a victim to her lies I had to forgive her in order to move forward. It took a lot for me at the time I genuinely embraced Sarah when everyone else felt her story didn’t add up. Being that I was leading a Bible study and spiritually mentoring woman she was someone I thought had really found her spirituality. Well instead she moved on to the next person after I confronted her.And to think even in prison she continued with her lies. Again I had to forgive her in order to move forward and continue in my spiritual walk. Having been sentenced to 16 years I thought no way not me and yes she got me. Today I’m free looking back and now seeing this breaks my heart! No remorse whatsoever. God bless all those who have been affected my her acts.

[@bernedettekuteyi3843]

She seems angry with the man, for making a compement, she is not sorry about lying.

[@janetphillips3208]

There are many people in the world just like her-- I know several- and is there a way we can protect ourselves from these users. I have found I have to cut off all contact completely.

[@shanaazabrahams1319]

How can she NOT know when she's lying

[@mel.o.ayo-61]

A lie has no feet!

[@jennyvanniekerk9600]

And some people lie so easily without blinking an eye

[@SM-zj2ps]

Listening to a podcast about her. So awful, I highly doubt she has changed and is still running these types of scams.

[@Maz-zb9uf]

One day she will do this to the wrong person and the end wouldn't be pretty. It makes you wonder what else has she done

[@elisabethhickox6880]

Let’s just say that happened to her ;)

[@nikki3726]

I can’t imagine how small she feels sitting there. Wow.

[@thatonefatchic]

She is a whole different level of scary.

[@stormwalker2015]

This disgusts me even more. Can’t believe I haven’t said this sooner. The victims’ lives relate to my life (especially the camp volunteer because I volunteered at multiple camps for different diagnoses) and I can’t imagine someone coming in and faking their diagnosis.

[@lindaharris6200]

I've got an ex sister in law that's a chronic liar & went so far as to shave her head & telling everyone she has cancer. She's a shop-lifter & only God knows what else...

[@josephinesmith2360]

Dr. Phil contact me so we show people this lady it is not a joke. I have been diagnosed and was accused of disclosure. I would like to clear this up.

[@Christinaifbbpro]

the example he uses is not quite accurate. because at the time shes not actually telling a lie. shes talking about the lie she told. thats a huge difference in demeanor and expression. for example. you lie about taking the cookie from the jar. in the moment when youre asked, did you take the cookie? you reply with "no! of course not!" that is the lie. but if you later go back and say "i lied about saying i took the cookie. i really did" thats no longer a lie. so a microexpression there isnt relevant, its not the lie.

[@kaceyhartling1422]

She needs help. This is a long pattern of behavior, and she clearly has issues empathizing with others. At least she is here for help and is sitting here its the first step.

[@club_pauline8342]

“When did that start?” lol

[@christopherkent422]

She sounds just like Aubrey Plaza!!

[@mollieroark9233]

don’t do aubrey like that

[@gregjohnson7666]

What does Aubrey sound like lol

[@burlykim132]

Not even a little

[@SuPrEmeTaCo-420]

She could be her mother also lol

[@lf3541]

I think they are both on the spectrum.

[@Bimby-b]

Lol the behaviour panel guys are sooooo coaching Dr Phil

[@CharlesHill2k15]

I use to lie all the time. I’m praying that she knows that while people are casting judgement on her. God is loving and able to forgive her for this. She just needs to repent for it and walk in that truth ness. God will forgive you if you ask him to. He loves you still. Please know that.

[@Prieze868]

It would be nice to know except not when she's lying but why she is lying

[@TheSystem.Co9]

This micro expressions thing and movements don’t work for people that have Tourette’s or some kind of tics or even Parkinson’s or like bells palsy because they can’t help but do these things I have Tourette’s and stress tics so I’m constantly moving and twitching and it’s all my muscles

[@ag-lx6km]

her face doe

[@arnoldhernandez1910]

Its so blank lol.

[@coreydwood]

at 4.25 he's having a dooping delight him self lol (idk how to do the time stamp thing)

[@New_Disciple-G3101]

Also at around 2:04

[@MZNINJA-2018]

She's sad she got caught, not REMORSE for doing what she did. Glad you are in PRISON NOW. YOU defiantly need psychological help.

[@fadalerabrasool3563]

the way sarah looks at liz brian and bethany with such annoyance for calling her out on her lies shows me she isnt sorru

[@dragonmaster4429]

Did anyone else see Dr. Phil change at 4:09?

[@New_Disciple-G3101]

Also at 2:04

[@tameliaarmstrong2394]

What an awful thing to do

[@kimthreadgold2755]

Now I wonder how many people in general lie.

[@hivemind8817]

yeah its a science its not what you hear from dr phil

[@Seffffffffff]

Why

[@riverstone9005]

Does anyone notice this woman sounds very much like that girl who thought she was Eminem's daughter? They have they same speech pattern and both sound kind of spaced out.

[@Sindoku]

I have a major problem with Dr Phil using body language and calling the process of reading it to determine if someone is lying a science when in reality it’s not. It’s about as accurate as a polygraph test which is about as accurate as a coin flip which is to say it’s not accurate at all. I lose respect for Dr Phil every time I see and hear stuff on his show. I want to like him but in reality he’s just as deceptive as this woman.

[@mishaa7263]

this is scary to watch, she has no emotions at all. she can't even move her face....

[@OMGitzSami]

Worst thing about Sarah is that she took Lizzy's family away from her smh

[@Elizabeth-uz5mf]

wait why is there only 12 comments 🤨 uh anyways 😁

[@ambermcivor825]

They only just opened up the comment section.

[@pryorb987]

yea they VERY RECENTLY opened up their comment section so

[@itscalledlogic7]

The video of her expressions is totally taken out of context. She obviously felt comfortable with the people questioning her. What else were they saying to her right before asking a question? She's grinning from ear to ear. Then DP puts her on the spot in front of everyone. Chances are, he's gaslighting her and she's too confused and uneducated to realize it, which makes her look even more guilty.

[@lyximichelle1367]

3:16 😂

[@saintsaint7136]

Creepy

[@jeanettehinds4253]

It's called duper's delight.

[@liasotos8640]

It’s the 7 comments for me

[@allwomn1]

She's literally refraining from hitting the puck in this clip, with her sombre look and flat responses.

[@hannahbear95__81]

People that lie blink their eyes alot👀

[@brandongarcia3478]

She's acting real because she got caught

[@michellecook7586]

But she is getting exactly what every sociopath craves...by being on Dr. Phil and being confronted she is the center of attention...by calling her out on her lies, yes she is smiling. Because she is now famous... If she is learning anything from all this, is how to go about it the next time and how to not get caught...because her being center of attention is like a high for people like her and sadly her high will only last as long as she is the center of attention.

[@elisabethhickox6880]

Well. Now she’s in jail ;)

[@leighhoppins9273]

I’d understand if somebody was being physically beaten up and they went to the people who beat them up and started something bad with them that is understandable Because you can’t beat somebody up and expect them to not come after you i mean you pretty much asked for that to happen However if you got beat up by another person and then started going after people who didn’t do anything to you Then I’d never support someone who does that i can’t and will never understand how people can hurt other people just because they got beaten up I just don’t see how that is a sign of pain, or embarrassment because it means to me like the person obviously doesn’t feel embarrassed it is like the bully just gave them a little punch in the arm You know anyone that gets physically beat up and badly hurt with bruises on their body, they should know how that feels So to me i feel like saying” oh so you think it’s funny to be bullied”

[@gismorgan9356]

I hope she’s changed but I seriously doubt it.

[@MissKatsukiBakugo]

She scares me even more when she talks

[@harrisshob5819]

as a victim of molestation from a family member.. i would be OVERJOYED if someone told me it was not the case and at least pissed at the mom. kid needs to get her priorities straight

[@bostontowny4life744]

I think this woman and what she did is despicable, but I have to wonder what exactly is Dr Phils show for? Because this seems to be less about therapy and more about being like a Steve Wilkos for yuppy house wives.

[@Shyautisticguy93]

Is this considered a Personality disorder

[@nataliehernandez8719]

🤣

[@kimwaddell4218]

I have a brother James who died 1991.

[@krystinamarquez2568]

i want a chicken sandwich from churches chicken has to be spicy tho

[@carriemiller1177]

UGH same

[@ladyweasellou3367]

I'm sorry, I think I missed something.....?

[@Prieze868]

Dr Phil never put his hand on paces I have an affair behind Robbins back as patients claim

[@xxRAGNAROKxx]

Doing this in this way, Dr Phil is lucky no one has goodbyed themselves on his show yet lol She’s a monster, but how come things are due to mental illness until it’s about lying? I’m picturing a person with schizophrenia getting looked at like a monster by the Mighty Moral Phil. 😂😂😂

[@friendlypiranha774]

Gosh, Dr Phil should get Bill Gates on his show. He has macro expressions and so much leakage he almost jumps out his seat.

[@Bornloserstrongheart]

The lady goes to the extreme and get a wheelchair and acts the part of the disease. Crazy lady for real

[@Angie_bae]

0:13 ew why does she sound like my ex? “I’m trying to make sure I don’t lie” like who says that?

[@idalarsen2540]

Wow okay I'm def first for once.

[@stecymwachia2691]

Cuz u a year late 😂

[@idalarsen2540]

@@stecymwachia2691 Lol i saw this a long time ago I remember. First time I've said first tho, give me a break 😭😂