How America could lose its allies | 2020 Election

What is NATO? And why is it still around?
This video was part of our 2020 US election series. Watch more at vox.com/ElectionVideos
For 150 years, the US avoided formal alliances. It occasionally went to war -- fighting the War of 1812, the Spanish-American War, and World War I -- but did so without entangling itself in promises to other countries. Then, after World War II, it abruptly changed course, and began to build a network of alliances unlike anything that had come before.
Over the next few decades, the US used those alliances to keep countries around the world close, and to fight Soviet expansion, by making a promise that it would go to war if any of its allies were ever attacked. After the Soviet Union fell, the initial purpose of those alliances was gone, but the US recommitted to them, signaling again and again that the central promise of those relationships was still in effect. It kept doing so for the next 25 years.
Then the US elected a leader who took America’s global relationships in a new direction. President Trump was skeptical that America’s network of alliances was still beneficial to the US. He began to distance the US from those alliances, raising doubts about whether America would actually follow through on the promise at the core of them if provoked. Some allies moved closer to Russia or China, both of whom had attempted to undermine America’s alliances.
Today, the future of those alliances is on the ballot in the US. One of the major presidential candidates in the 2020 election wants to return the US to its former status with its allies; the other finds its decades-old alliances costly and cumbersome. The world is waiting to see which vision Americans prefer.
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[@mazzar9633]

Ok

[@mglsj]

I love watching your videos. Great job.

[@BGGIEMAN]

Definitely need a video about the current wars the United States is currently involved in, as well the continued agitation of Iran

[@gorgebutton5885]

How will Joe Biden treat Israel and its leaders oppressive government

[@red_amoguss]

How much is Biden paying you again, Vox?

[@theeeeeeleooo4685]

*USA allies before the british* 1. Pacific Ocean 2. Atlantic Ocean.

[@marieortiz319]

[jajas in mexican]

[@Kdyllon]

I’ll say the Atlantic did a great deed on the Titanic 🤷‍♂️

[@rocdaneweracap]

@JP thank you someone knows the truth.

[@landimhlakane9141]

@@rocdaneweracap do have a link on this...i want to know more🤔

[@JohnSmith-zv8km]

@JP You are so funny, but if you think please tell me what to read to change my mind.

[@thethrowbackguy4319]

Africa finding out there’s a big groupchat they’re not in: 👁👄👁

[@brianfrommars]

It may take some time, but I’m very optimistic on the prospects each African nation poses in the future. You could be hearing the names Nigeria, South Africa and Ethiopia more than you’d expect.

[@thethrowbackguy4319]

Brian Turner hopefully🙏🏾🙏🏾 the world will stop sleeping on them soon

[@okas425]

@@brianfrommars they are already extremely rich just the wealth is in the hands of corrupt politicians

[@kelkellys]

South Africa can easily became a big power in the future look at their economic growth

[@brianfrommars]

@@kelkellys Thats true, but Corruption plus domestic problems (i.e. Racism & Populist leaders) continue to hinder them. I’ve got my prayers out for them but only time will tell if they can move forward in the world.

[@whipzoned]

How America could lose its allies Iran, Russia, North Korea and China: *write that down, write that down!*

[@sebastiann.a.g.7528]

@Complex Construct that's a joke... dude

[@armanmahmood9783]

Vietnam: Does this mean I have to side with the fatty I beat like 50 years ago?

[@hawkeyes7588]

@@armanmahmood9783 ha ha that is funny

[@Legion849]

@@armanmahmood9783 Hahahaha

[@armanmahmood9783]

@@Legion849 me thinking this is pure sarcasm:

[@ATEG8374]

Meanwhile, Philippines: *looking at Cold War-era planes and submarines from South Korea and Israel* Hmm, a bit pricey, but I think I'll splurge

[@jcomandante6629]

Never heard of it 🤔. I thought the DND already chosen the f-16 of the USA and scorpenes from France, wellaybe not the scorpeneses.

[@ATEG8374]

@@jcomandante6629 Yes, that too. A lot of countries have been giving us new military equipment lately. We do occupy a strategic spot in Asia so they take care of our defense needs

[@sammie5998]

Is war inevitable in the philippines? Since its like in the middle of conflicts so thats why other countries have been interfering with us to gain power in this region?

[@VietnamWarSummarized]

dont see anything wrong with buying more military equipment for our country

[@Delta-2-0]

@@jcomandante6629 I think were set to get the scorpene class, we just need the downpayment.

[@vazeyo]

"The United States of America is a lucky country. Surrounded by oceans and weak neighbours." - Otto von Bismarck

[@clipit4503]

*Oceans

[@vazeyo]

@@clipit4503 Thanks. I´m german myself and we write it with a "z". ;-)

[@adorabasilwinterpock6035]

As a Canadian I’m mildly offended

[@youcantalwaysgetwhatyouwan6687]

But Germans can't beat America

[@ousarlxsfjsbvbg8588]

@@youcantalwaysgetwhatyouwan6687 germany isn’t even a military power anymore because they lost two world wars.

[@geetika6540]

I can't stop laughing at the fact that this is video is sponsored by a vodka company

[@jadinhtvt6870]

Yooooo why

[@straubdavid9]

@Krzysztof Bartczak Russia approves this message ~8^)

[@timettes]

Absolut is actually a Swedish company

[@livelifesurvive6375]

@Krzysztof Bartczak hahaha..

[@livelifesurvive6375]

@Krzysztof Bartczak hahaha..

[@Daniel-qx1nm]

“The US was the only superpower in the world” China: Gas Gas Gas

[@jaydenalts5542]

Cough Cough

[@dalliskal4827]

Lets say goodbye to chinas dream of them being superpower

[@Daniel-qx1nm]

@@dalliskal4827 Well the thing is that china does have potential. the us is still struggling to contain the virus still. i don't know, china still wants to be the best :/

[@yoriiroy1720]

sounds very german... ok I think thats too far

[@rl3969]

china is weak, never be no.1, take it easy

[@yesyess5168]

7:12 "You could think about Russia's invasion of Ukraine as a prelude to what could happen" That aged well.

[@chad2522]

And it happened under a weak president that was not trump 🤣

[@kiro9257]

@@chad2522yup. It happened on a president who isn’t under Putin’s list of friends.

[@chad2522]

@@kiro9257 trump and Putin are friends? Haha you have got to be kidding me. If anything its the 3M dollar donation Moscow mayor gave Joe biden son

[@greatsageequaltoheaven8115]

@@chad2522 Trump*

[@ocelot9680]

@@kiro9257 I mean,I would argue that if it was trump leading the country, trump would've cut relations with Ukraine, meaning russia would truly have not reason other than the russian population in the donbas,and Ukraine would have been too scared to start a war,and we would've avoided the death of thousands

[@ethanrepublic4554]

*The United States was protected by two oceans until 1941* Britain in 1812: Hey.

[@VincenzoRutiglianoDiaz]

It was Canada though.

[@himlingpatrice]

In 1812, the United States was the aggressor.

[@nikodemus7900]

"Hey" from History of the entire world I guess?

[@ethanrepublic4554]

@@nikodemus7900 i didn't think about it that way but sure

[@ethanrepublic4554]

@@VincenzoRutiglianoDiaz Canada was still under British Rule not to mention that the British brought men from Europe to fight

[@crashskunk5888]

The US: “Could you please use 2% of your GDP on defence?” Iceland: what is a defence?

[@Titamiva]

Iceland defeated the UK thrice in the cod wars.

[@laurencefraser]

@@Titamiva those weren't actually Wars though. Media hyperbole there.

[@VergilDarkslayer]

You mdan the crying like a baby wars?

[@gavin3915]

Hehe volcano go boom

[@NoName-ig2jb]

@@Titamiva They won because they threatened to leave NATO

[@tiarareihmequiota6618]

"The us will not remain the greatest forever" This is basically true for any dominating country/empire

[@abrahamlincoln856]

Who will be next ! Let’s hope to be everybody but not Cbina

[@XXXTENTAClON227]

@@abrahamlincoln856 not trying to be pessimistic but I don’t think there will be another after the USA… because humanity will probably end in a century or so

[@hanzlonan7513]

By the time that happen i world is no more.

[@Janoip]

@@hanzlonan7513 I don't think so, even without the Usa it will go on, in the future ballistic missiles/atomic weapons can be defended better and maybe China is already so far and there are new "super weapons" which change everything.

[@hanzlonan7513]

@@Janoip hahahahahaha listen to yourself do you truly believed US will go down without military action? Also you truly believe humanity can counter nukes? Hahhahahhaa man i think your just too positive no one can survive nuclear war even if you lived the edge of the earth you still be affected as it engulf the entire world and its cold nuclear winter and i believe i dont have to explain what a nuclear winter is.

[@z.m.n.1998]

I usually don't like political stuff, but this is kinda interesting to watch.

[@mapping1187]

True. It is also frightening to think of how important the coming years will be for world politics.

[@Apelles42069]

@@mapping1187 The 21st century will contain another global conflict. All on the backdrop of environmental collapse.

[@sawaatt2171]

Yeah, I agree. I learn a few things from this video.

[@kj6597]

One of the best videos I've seen. Hopefully the US stay close with it's allies

[@NyxusPluto]

As a fellow American I hate my country

[@anotheridiotoninternet6635]

“Japan is moving closer to China” that’s more likely geographically than politically.

[@jemenbatslescouilles]

😂

[@d.x.1152]

At 1:32 ROC was one of the BIG FOUR. Republic of China is an ally nation VOX..................... U FAIL WORLD HISTORY

[@marolainrios4218]

I mean you’re not wrong the plates are moving slowly

[@georgebrantley776]

@@d.x.1152 ROC was in the Big 4, but the Big 3 was clearly US, UK, USSR

[@beef-jerky]

Did you know that one day... LA will be very close to Anchorage?

[@brendanjrice7307]

In short: America’s having a midlife crisis

[@doorknob3937]

more like end of life crisis lol

[@blancavelasquez9859]

regardless we’ll still be a military and economic colossus

[@PRINCEOFPRUSSIA69]

@@blancavelasquez9859 That's what Rome said...

[@DreaBe]

@@blancavelasquez9859 unfortunately China is taking that over as they have advanced heavily on technology.

[@capnsteele3365]

@@blancavelasquez9859 it's only going to be military, China is expected to overtake America as the largest economy in the next year

[@clairebearlife]

"The Baltic States" Everyone who has played Plague Inc: ah yes I know those well

[@renenuam]

me who's FROM a baltic state: **laughter**

[@DansuB4nsu03]

Did you mean "Plague Inc"?

[@clairebearlife]

@@DansuB4nsu03 oop I most definitely did. Gonna edit that now, thank you! 😄

[@bigj1905]

Vox: Here’s how the U.S could lose its allies Russia: “I’m gonna do what’s called a pro-gamer move.”

[@ebenguenthner5365]

Vox: America had no relations with other countries until WWII Latin America: 👀 ummmmmmmm

[@mrhutchblackdog4636]

U. K., Dominion of Canada, Spain, France, Mexican Empire.

[@mrhutchblackdog4636]

Brasil, etc.

[@Star-fr4jz]

Really? (Asking out of curiosity, not out of spite, I'm certainly unsure of the history between America and Latin America)

[@coltenkurtz4739]

@@Star-fr4jz Look up the Monroe doctrine, that sums up their relationship pretty well.

[@Star-fr4jz]

@@coltenkurtz4739 thank you!

[@brnmths]

The USA was never “allies” with Latin American countries. It was more of neocolonialist effort

[@deawinter]

Yeah they probably should have just left that part out.... US was never protecting South America from anything but governments that were unfriendly to the US

[@tmsupreme7763]

Why do you say that?

[@--julian_]

Exactly, less help more control

[@sharkiboi8167]

@@deawinter yeah, the us kinda ruined Latin America with its right wing dictators in Cuba, Argentina, and Chile. The recent coup in Bolivia (which I’m glad it happened), the establishment of the oligarchy in Honduras, El Salvador, and Guatemala. Annexation of Mexican lands. And like that’s the basic stuff (I’m from Ecuador btw but live in the US)

[@victorromano5975]

This argument is so cliched

[@cedrickvidal1362]

As a Filipino, U.S.A. must have to find a way to show their trust to us. Our president might be planning to stop our alliances to the U.S.A. Sana matugunan niyan

[@sammie5998]

@@RainSkyy7239 its cause if they dont itll affect other us allies trust to the us and to contain china through the first island chain

[@jbarral6509]

True that

[@entertainment-ox8gl]

Oy kabayan

[@Ymats-dj1nt]

Wala naman kasing ginawa yung US sa spratly island eh nung pinagkainteresan ng China MORE THAN A DECADE ago. It was part of both countries agreement (US-PH) same with (Japan-US) na kapag may bansang nag invade eh dedepensahan ng US at vice versa pero feeling ko arm personnel naman ambag ng Pinas kung sakaling may nag invade sa US. Sabi nga nila PANGAKONG NAPAKO yung nangyari sa sitwasyon sa West Philippine Sea.

[@daigs7959]

@@Ymats-dj1nt The US conduct navy exercises in the West Philippine Sea together with EU countries, Australia is also doing its part. And to tell you, Its not just average military ships, but actually one of the big guns of the US and Britain.

[@joshuaashish9057]

Can we just take a moment and appreciate the work and effort put into this video.

[@luxembourgishempire2826]

When you get paid to do it. It's kind of not that impressive.

[@Apelles42069]

@@luxembourgishempire2826 Some people are paid a whole lot more for less.

[@nuclearblitzkrieg7734]

no

[@alec187]

Being a 3rd world country is like being stuck with a divorced parent just because they gained custody of you cause he or she is the richer one.

[@rocdaneweracap]

Facts

[@rocdaneweracap]

@Rátt Pâkk I feel for you

[@alejandrozuniga4426]

i felt that 😥

[@michaelweston409]

@Rátt Pâkk it’s because Iran is trying to regain its status as the great Persian Empire. But that time has long since gone & passed.

[@EmyN]

True

[@nabeelahmedkhanofficial]

Americans: Its our Presidential Elections. Foreigners: This is Pure Entertainment.

[@Wanda-wi4hp]

right :) I am from india tho

[@thegoldengamer9315]

Correct

[@apricotman6407]

Kanye 2020

[@olaff9771]

Pure entertainment that will decide our future.

[@sehr.geheim]

@waylon lewin This jarbled mess of a comment was actually informative

[@redfern2236]

Under Biden, we did in fact just rejoin the Paris climate deal.

[@chris-noelkachi1696]

What's that?

[@ethanpurita]

@@chris-noelkachi1696 - A deal that bankrupts the USA and its taxpayers. It's the "Paris Climate Accord."

[@TheNardDog1996]

@@chris-noelkachi1696 It's a deal where every country in the agreement keeps their emissions of carbon dioxide and other stuff harmfull to the environment down below a certain %. Basically, it's a long term plan to slow the climate change. Very important in my opinion for our future generations!

[@chris-noelkachi1696]

@@TheNardDog1996 oh okay, thanks

[@christianriiselaursen3605]

@@ethanpurita where have you've been fed those lies

[@sunnytiwary5103]

This is just like two kids facing each other to see who becomes the popular kid in school.

[@aidensample1757]

I’ve never seen two kids try to be more popular than the other in highschool but I get ur point

[@d_1012]

Japan isn’t siding with China . Infact it started the QUAD to counter China .

[@luqhakim5711]

First time I ever felt like disagreeing with Vox over this. The last thing Japan would ever want to do is to ally with China. Those countries have hated each other for centuries.

[@RealTamerlanetheGreat]

@@luqhakim5711 This is the first time you have disagreed with Vox?

[@sinoroman]

japan doesn't really have a choice, they have to join the american group

[@markanderson100]

Japan didn't start the QUAD. It only joined as a permanent member in 2015. What is now QUAD began as a joint naval exercise between the US and India.

[@rocker10039]

Yea..... that was under Shinzo Abe, Suda isn't pushing that hard for the QUAD

[@katvolver]

"please drink responsibly, and vote responsibly." -sponsored by ABSOLUT. This is officially the prologue to Cyberpunk 2077 now.

[@user-mr9jz3ju5]

This Was Brought By Vodka, Tequila, Heineken, Hennessy And So Many Other Drinks Including Koolay

[@iron4517]

Lol 😂

[@nokafe6667]

I am planning to move to Europe, anyone down for Watch Dogs Legion?

[@lmao9526]

@@nokafe6667 ayo im down where you at

[@katvolver]

@@nokafe6667 I am, just bought it the other night. You on Xbox or PS4?

[@britishspy2640]

"Free democratic and independent Russia" Uhh Who's gonna tell him?

[@danielpostiff1640]

This aged well

[@qamarat8366]

Exactly the comment I was looking for.

[@stephenjenkins7971]

Not it didn't; Vox always screech how the US is losing its allies when the US has proven how critical it is to have as an ally to start with.

[@Coraxincarmine]

Guys, historian check, the US had both France and Spain as allies in the begining. Spain was "erased" from the mainstream history because in 1898 the US decided to "free" Cuba and the Philippines.

[@Quintinohthree]

Also, the alliance with France was off and on after independence too, especialy through the revolutionary and Napoleonic period. Nevertheless the point is obviously that the US hadn't really had lasting allies before the world wars.

[@ccrozz99]

For real i noticed they didn’t label Spain as a first ally.

[@francoise4308]

Dutch and Mysore as well, but noone talks about those....

[@chrisv2107]

@@Quintinohthree dont forget that when the U.S. was at its civil war, france invaded mexico, which violates the Monroe Doctrine in which no european power shall regain control or influence on Latin America

[@chloebangco3752]

Yeah, basically Spain and the US traded the Philippines like some kind of currency. What a shame.

[@adammaxwell-timmins9564]

I'll save you 12 minutes: The US is having an identity crisis again

[@sleepyguy6201]

How many times has it been again?

[@adammaxwell-timmins9564]

US Identity 'Crises': - Revolutionary War (1770s) - Central government/Individual states/taxation (1780-1790s) - Civil War and Slavery (1860s) - Imperial nation or freeing colonies (1890s) - Isolationism (1910s) - Prohibition (1920s) - Isolationism... again (1930s) - Treaties and Trump (1960 - Present)

[@MariahIsolated]

Why ? Educate me plz, educate me daddy 🤤

[@sleepyguy6201]

@@adammaxwell-timmins9564 Jesus Christ that's a lot

[@8is]

@@sleepyguy6201 Not really, countries and people change over the centuries.

[@drunkcatphil9911]

“A nation can’t remain great if it betrays its allies and lets down its friends” *America let’s down Britain with the Suez crisis, breaks its promise to share its nuclear research after Britain shared its research and ignores Britain’s offer for help and advice with the Vietnam war* Sure is doing a good job with its ‘special relationship’ with Britain 👏

[@kobetakemura5179]

The most recent event you mentioned was from the 1960s bruh. Talk about living in the past.

[@stevonwhite8933]

@@kobetakemura5179 Past has Consequences in the grand scheme of history...

[@kobetakemura5179]

@@stevonwhite8933 Yes it does. But the present and the immediate past is what dictates our world now. No one is using small policy disagreements from literally half a century ago to dictate modern global politics and thinking that to be the case presents a warped view of the world.

[@socialistsolidarity4934]

Britain needs to stop being America's B***h!

[@franknwogu4911]

we turned our n backs on the uk for telling you not to colonize other countries

[@mazkas1476]

Russias back boys, NATO’s got its purpose back.

[@basvanderveen9575]

''This was a new idea: making alliances to prevent wars rather than start them'' Otto von Bismarck: "am I a joke to you''

[@EvidLekan]

Hahahaha nice one

[@sinlenglam3143]

DANKE

[@av4693]

The Habsburgs are offended by this comment.

[@louisf2654]

This was a new idea millenia ago

[@sjl197]

Pax Romana says, “hold my Gladius”

[@spookyghostwriter3110]

"The US was alone." The British soldiers looting Washington: Hold my tea.

[@fathfez7991]

"The US was alone" Civil War : 👁️👄👁️

[@NoOne-py5or]

"The US was alone" Us in World war 1: am I a joke to you?

[@matthewl2036]

But they weren’t really looting they ate the food on the table but the officers told their soldiers not to loot

[@matthewl2036]

@DIEGO PEREZ GENIS I mean it’s just food not really a valuable to take home but I see what you mean

[@areebbutt9546]

@@AzaiReacts and than we burned down the white house

[@jorichocualing4017]

Correction: In WW2, USA declared war on Japan but Germany and Italy is the one who declared war on USA.

[@stormlightboi3958]

Rommel?

[@Blanksmithy123]

Even if it wasn't official, Pearl harbor was 100% a declaration of war, stop nitpicking.

[@rikkowastaken]

What? Japan formally declared war to USA. But the message of declaration didn't arrived to Pearl Harbour fast enough. Resulted in the crew not prepared at all

[@rikkowastaken]

@@Blanksmithy123 What's wrong with me saying it again

[@Blanksmithy123]

@@rikkowastaken oh lol I thought u were responding to me cuz it showed up in my notifs... my bad

[@fecchitheillustrator7063]

As a turkish person this video made me realize that Russia is just teasing with america using Turkey. Thanks for the video, it made me see things in a bigger perspective.

[@user-nh9zx4zb8g]

hello neighbor🇮🇶👋

[@user-yj7ve5zv9n]

that sounded kinda weird

[@ocelot9680]

The us has always hated turkey,to this day they've supported Greece against turkey, turkey wants old glories back,the us wants to keep their NATO allies in check, Turkey is spiraling into recession,same as Australia and Britain,the us fell and got up quietly while their allies suffered

[@jmlkinc]

Reminder: Canada and Australia were in WWII before America. They aren't even highlighted with the Allies in this video. Kind of sad to see.

[@emuriddle9364]

Maturity. They even supported Manufacturing efforts too. (Canadian factories making STEN guns, are what stood out to me.)

[@tristanridley1601]

@Xavier Robinson You should learn international history before you comment. Canada has been its own nation for longer than Germany. Being 'dominated' by a country doesn't remove your presence from an alliance.

[@Mongolium]

And South Africa, too.

[@Mongolium]

@Zakar Germany was winning the war in 41’

[@shadowguy321]

@Xavier Robinson I can't speak to Australia because I'm Canadian, but in the 20s (I think 28) legislation was passed stating Canada stood on par with England in "all matters". To exercise this right, Canada waited 1 week after England to declare war. Prior to that, Canada had already refused a call to arms by England during the Chanak crisis. So no, Canada was a fully independent nation by WW2. We were just forgotten because we're always forgotten, especially in American based content. That said we as Canadians aren't really the point for this particular video.

[@sfctw1]

Yeah, Japan siding with China is like saying South Korea will get close to North Korea.

[@proboxpepper6752]

How is that impossible? Japanese economy never recovered from the crisis and China is the biggest market for everything and it's right next door.

[@oreki4746]

yea lol

[@oreki4746]

@@proboxpepper6752 economy yes but the people says no. Just look at the Japanese poll...Japanese people has a exceptionally unfavourable attitude towards China

[@proboxpepper6752]

@@oreki4746 People's favors don't matter in this case.

[@michaelcoleman7311]

Considering Japan's prime minister Shinzo Abe has been pictured in a jet with the numbers "731" (unit 731) and following Abe's visits to the Yasukuni Shrine... Yeah, I doubt Japan is siding with China over the US anytime soon. Not to say they won't become closer since both nations have tried to move on from past conflicts, but Japan is still very close with America and still have a very long way to go before they are close with China.

[@dimitrypetrenko3470]

"an empire no matter how big,will one day fall"

[@dimitrypetrenko3470]

@e93 but they were successful hiding one in the 1900s

[@instantinople3796]

@e93 it's there, you just can't see it.

[@phoenixbagri744]

@Afonso it is

[@XXXTENTAClON227]

@@instantinople3796 then it’s not an empire, genius What is so difficult to comprehend? To have an empire you have to govern the territories you claim. Even Puerto Rico picks it’s own governor. A literal US overseas territory still has more independence than European colonies of the past. Contrary to popular belief, the USA has already attempted colonialism, and its greatest extent was in WW2 before decolonisation. So unless you’re referring to that, don’t bother

[@matisszimerts9757]

7:19 As someone who lives in the baltics, those tanks look really big and scary.

[@michaelsali6721]

1:15 So for the next 150 years, America was alone. Until 1941 1917: Am I a joke to you?

[@drewstaser9726]

1812: Am I a joke to you?

[@Goulouk54000]

That’s a detail, it doesn’t change the argument of the video

[@themightyboat]

1901 : I'm a joke to you

[@lettuceman9439]

The American Commonwealth: We don't exist

[@mohammadhijazi4498]

@@Goulouk54000 it does say something about the research done if they missed something that easy and common. Like either start from the 40s or present what happened beforehand properly

[@leopoldposch464]

“America has no permanent friends or enemies, only interests” ― Henry Kissinger

[@alekzander2010]

Should be noted that Kissinger wasnt the first to say this, the quote actually comes from the French President and WW2 hero, Charles de Gaulle

[@johnzeszutko5661]

Sad but I reckon it is true.

[@JoonsLife]

Same with any other Country, hence China.

[@VGameL0v3e12sF012Ree]

I think that was the intention of the founding fathers of the US. To not make permanent alliances anyway.

[@sethmaskovich6541]

literally every country is like that

[@zzzwolf7960]

5:37 correction they didn't bomb only Serbian forces, they mostly bombed innocent people across the country that had nothing to do with the war.

[@elzinga87]

as a Dutch person I dont even understand this whole discussion about how the NATO.. Trump was spot on; all NATO members signed a treaty that we would spend 2% GDP on our military. For decades most NATO countries completely ignored this but profited from being NATO member. I totally understand that Trump held us accountable for not abiding the contract for years. If only the US keep their end of the bargain; the NATO will lose its power. I wouldnt vote for Trump, but in this case; he couldnt have been more rational

[@andydandykinsd5107]

South Korea: *Highest spending ally* Trump: NOT ENOUGH Iceland: YEET

[@LuhOvert]

lol hes saying that because all of them need to spend at least 10 billion!

[@mastersonogashira1796]

@@LuhOvert lol that is like 20% of some of the countries’ GDP. I see why he like North Korea now

[@colejones6312]

Iceland is too busy defeating the UK in wars over fishing rights.

[@edoardo69yearsago88]

😂

[@etoatoummhmm6391]

@Robust Misconcepiton they don’t even have an army

[@Kipkemoi]

I think Japan is working more against China to be honest.

[@topaz0926]

Agree

[@manodharsan708]

Thats true as u can see the QUAD group

[@timothyoneill6664]

you would be surprised how bad relations are between japan and china I would not be surprised if skirmish's between then would happen like on the Indian border.

[@yuliusjrt9917]

@@timothyoneill6664 I mean it’s pretty hard to have border skirmishes with an island

[@mcdoublemaster2776]

This this the most ignorant part of the video, of course ignoring all the terrible maps

[@mrAZcardinal]

The damage Trump has done to our network of allies is unforgivable.

[@youpedia4614]

Very true

[@minymiles234]

The United States doesn’t deserve allies.

[@youpedia4614]

@@mikem0kethey are the one that offered to do world police🤣🤣... they were always trying to influence every country right from the cold war. those countries they have been managing and doing world police for just got used to it. its gonna be hard to tell someone to do something for themselves when you offered to do it for them and they got used to you doing it for them, if you get

[@lolslayz_2622]

he asked for nato countrys to spend 2% on defense and every country promised they would, and after they didnt and is holding them accountable for it and you think thats unforgivable

[@aidensample1757]

@@minymiles234 then tell the leaders of other countries to back out… oh wait they need our protection

[@comradedmitry8269]

Allies Guard border: Accidentally shoots Russians: Wait did i hear WW3 FIRE!

[@rydergw]

“Drink and vote responsibly” ...preferably not at the same time.

[@donamanbemis1181]

You saw that add to for vodka

[@hasoshi6834]

That's definitely true I agree with you

[@astrid2737]

Seeing that Trump got elected last time it seems like all Americans were drunk when they voted 🗳

[@rocket6173]

I dont think it would make a difference. Trump, biden. They're all the same

[@calik9698]

I saw that ad

[@ISA-ni6iy]

Honestly as a French person I really want France and other European countries to stop relying on America just because of military force

[@filodoxos4337]

You can't escape (At least easily) US is deep into Europe since you guys agreed to the Marshall Plan.

[@matthewoconnor3376]

I agree; If it wasn't for the US you would be speaking German. All europeans do is criticize the US even though they are heavily reliant on the United States.

[@dainah105]

Mathew is right, and without America bombing Japan, Australians would be speaking Japanese because little know fact: japan tried to take out Australia too. We were hit more and harder than pearl harbour

[@anthonyellison4737]

@@matthewoconnor3376 And without France and Spain Americans would still be under English rule.

[@pipercharms7374]

@@matthewoconnor3376 well no, in WW2 likely but in WW1 we would have actually won without the US however it would have taken likely longer to do so but we still would have won. US also wasn’t the whole reason the allies won those wars, your essentially downplaying every countries efforts in the war by saying US is the reason Europe isn’t speaking German. Yes US was a big help, especially in WW2 yet saying that makes it sound like US is the ONLY reason the allies won, which is not true and its massively insulting to us and to the other countries that lost thousands/millions of people defending against the other countries.

[@maxberner1886]

3:46 the soviets didnt just build a wall for the reason that Nato wouldnt leave west berlin but because so many germans left the east for the west

[@somethingelse9228]

And the fact that spies could easily cross into the east

[@passerine7325]

I’ve started to see the US as the police. It’s not great but who else is there. Without the US, other countries with big ambitions who feels entitled to take more than their fair share will start acting upon their urges without much retaliation or consequences. For example, China is already trying to take the South China Sea, which many other neighboring countries relies upon for fishery plus theres studies showing a surmountable amount of oil in and around there. Most neighboring countries around China can be considered third world, and most of them have ties with the US to help them deter China from taking over. Another current example is with Russia feeling entitled to take over Ukrainian and surrounding countries. Without the US or other NATO countries, Ukraine wouldn’t have enough guns or intel to fight Russia off. The US is by no means perfect but they’re good enough to have around. Everyone has to understand that what affects other countries will also affect the US be it from trading, imports, alliances, or other. No country can thrive or even sustain itself without help from others, North Korea is a testament to that. No one else has enough military power to police others like the US, and if the US allows for no consequence then bigger countries will just help themselves and take what they want until they get so big and ambitious that they’d also dare to take from the US. Meanwhile the US will for sure be suffering because trade deals won’t be as strong without alliance, Russia is another example of what can happen when other countries or businesses stop servicing you. People are insatiable, they can never be satisfied with what they have. *written on October 2022

[@kuyaleinad4195]

America (Trump): Hey Japan, you should spend more on your Military: Japan: *Visible Confusion* Constitution doesn’t allow for a Military and only a small defence force is allowed. America (Trump): Yeah but we’re losing money defending you. Japan: 👁👄👁 You literally forced us to write that in our constitution after WWII saying that America will protect Japan instead 😂

[@madensmith7014]

Considering how Japan currently has one of the biggest military "defense force" in the region, this whole bit is funny.

[@ranvijaykumar8961]

According to Constitution, Japan cannot invade other country and for defense they already have USA.. It's win-win situation for JAPAN

[@user-fq4hj8yv2z]

There were legal ways to go around it, which Japan did use.

[@user-fq4hj8yv2z]

@@ranvijaykumar8961 Not really win-win cause if they are invaded while the us is unable to act quick enough then bad end.

[@user-fq4hj8yv2z]

@@kentakei7052 Are they now?

[@helo36362]

So nice of America to keep democracy by helping to creat military dictatorships in latin america

[@Fabian-cv9yl]

Democracy?

[@alexlaza5301]

US indeed has help creating military dictatorships if the situation demands its. But US is also cleary more prefareble to help democratic factions if there was a choice. And I think deep down you knew that if China and Russia replaced the role of US, there would be far far more authoritarianism on this planet.

[@Ganjor420]

to be fair they got oil down there... so it's not like the US had a choice to "get them some democracy".

[@angryameer3563]

@@alexlaza5301 even with the us the world is on fire ignited by the us. The us is responsible for subjugating more than 100 democratic government

[@erikcordova1713]

It somehow saved us, socialist government intervention was destroying our little and insignificant economies.

[@Daniel-qx1nm]

this aged well

[@xerosereify]

This was really interesting to watch, however I do feel it glosses over the ways in which the US has distanced itself from its allies before Trump was even elected. For example when New Zealand went nuclear free in the 80s, the USA actively tried to interfere with its democratic decision, showing a lack of respect for NZs sovereignty and perminantly destroying the trust NZ had previously had in the USA.

[@kennypowers2341]

xerosereify why did you guys go nuclear free

[@tanszism]

going nuclear free is a terrible option. i am from serbia and i really can't stand these politicians who have never tasted war trying to subvert mutually assured destruction promises.

[@xerosereify]

@@kennypowers2341 1)Because we didn't need it, and 2) Our "allies" liked to test nuclear weaponry on pacific islands, and being the largest Pacific Island, we REALLY weren't ok with that idea lol.

[@blackbox5141]

Omg nations with little to no military aren’t going to like us. BOOO HOOOO and the nations that do matter like Britain, Japan, South Korea, Germany and aus are always going to love us bc either we built their democracy or they fought along side us in recent wars!

[@ugbucket]

@Melissa Sullivan no

[@AustinGao]

It's rare for vox to say 'trump had a point' ahaha

[@chrisjoshua69420]

u gotta give credit when due

[@aviefern]

They're just reporting factually. He rarely says anything true or does anything good, so when he does, it's an occasion to celebrate.

[@DeathToTheDictators]

Well, while Trump actually spoke factually (for once), the thing he's not smart enough to understand is, which country benefitted the MOST from the NATO alliance? Which country now (since NATO formed) had hundreds of bases and troops all over the world protecting it's own trade and political interests? USA, of course....and weakening NATO ties with Europe and Asia these last four years has only helped it's main rivals (namely China and Russia) gain a significantly better competitive edge against USA (yeah USA is still top, but this helped said rivals gain ground)....Trump's foreign policy (and pointing the finger at America's allies, even if they weren't spending as much as was agreed to) did NOT make America stronger, it made it weaker.

[@johnny_eth]

Broken clocks are right twice a day.

[@fathfez7991]

**smacks leg** hahaha it's rare that any people with brain to say "trump had a point"

[@alancaro526]

This one did not age so well

[@wafflepv]

“NATO has no reason to exist”, so what happened on February 24 2022

[@User_J9000]

It is the reason this war exists NATO creates wars not prevent them.

[@PotatoMaGobinus]

@@User_J9000 so you're saying NATO started the war on Ukraine?

[@stephenjenkins7971]

@@User_J9000 Gotta love victim blaming; as if NATO forced Russia to invade.

[@User_J9000]

@@stephenjenkins7971 Yes they did, if some thugs/ gang are surrounding you wouldn't you feel threatened and fight back.

[@greatsageequaltoheaven8115]

@@User_J9000 Don't the gangster Putin will be tried for warcrimes.

[@kgreen]

I feel like they glossed over the First World War.

[@MrWialre]

I reckon that’s mostly because WWI was an exception to the rule of American foreign policy, and a temporary one at that, with the US retreating from interventionism pretty much immediately afterwards.

[@lucashyvarinen246]

oh i didnt realise this video was about the world wars

[@prathameshjoshi007]

And the Spanish wars

[@Kdkjdjewerdnxa]

Because NATO was established after WW2, not WW1? Also America didn’t have attacks on their own soil during WW1.

[@YakamaruSVW]

"The next 150 years, America was alone .. until 1941" this is just not correct. The US helped the allies in WW1 first by goods supply and later by taking the decisive decision to enter the war. This was not a neutral position.

[@alexandervidal1212]

"The US has no allies just interests" -Henry Kissinger

[@deannilvalli6579]

I believe it was Lord Palmerston who first said that.

[@CitsVariants]

Then why did it help with ww2?

[@CitsVariants]

Funding south korea isnt beneficial at all

[@xenny1061]

tbh all countries r like that

[@mrr4814]

He wasn't the first but like those who made this claim before him, he was also right.

[@sera296]

US is now entirely unpredictable. NATO countries agreed that they will come out of Afghanistan together but US made an unilateral deal with Taliban and betrayed that trust.

[@toob_shoob1324]

They didn't make a deal with the Taliban they just gave the afghani troops veachles money and ammo then left without saying anything

[@s9ka972]

@@toob_shoob1324 Do u think NATO allies are that fools to trust that statement.

[@justayoutubeaccount371]

Nato would do nothing to protect the United States

[@balam314]

4:34 This aged... poorly.

[@yuanzou4894]

Alaska: "am I still in the Union?"

[@TheGhostOf2020]

Poor guys aren’t even politically organized according to vox XD

[@imcarlosjr4898]

@@TheGhostOf2020 ikr

[@Anno_Nymouse]

Only since 1959 or in this video from 2:55

[@yuanzou4894]

@@Anno_Nymouse Make sense. Technically if you take "United States" at its face value, territories (and colonies) should not be colored. However, I do believe that the subtle exclusion of American territories and colonies from our historical discourses can make us forget about an important part of America's past and influence our judgments. It is highly plausible that everyone in America is well aware of the presence of American territories and colonies the course of American history, but the video makers can certainly hold themselves to a higher standard. No harm, no malice, only sincere hope that the video can deliver more nuances and uncover some of that collective consciousness. (If you see a future Vox video on "Why our maps do not show Alaska and Hawaii and the Philippines," you know why...lol)

[@coraltown1]

no, in QAnon

[@jonathanpaiva143]

"alone until 1941", you guys skipped over a lot here.

[@strider7273]

It’s a 10mn video they’re not gonna cover all US history

[@StoneX24]

@@strider7273 ^I agree with him, just a quick explanation about why its not related to the point of the video is all that's needed.

[@95uzi]

@@strider7273 Well I would think that at least the second-largest war in human history should have made the cut.

[@rebia5542]

@@StoneX24 ok I'll explain. Any foreign intervention before that was temporary and nearly all americans wanted and voted for isolationism whenever they could until pearl harbor

[@H3LLS4NG3L]

alone, without permanent allies. Its true.

[@stormtrooperstudios69]

“The United States was alone” War of 1812

[@flintleviathan5075]

Yeah, Vox videos tend to skip over some fairly important things.

[@kamanashiskar9203]

@@flintleviathan5075 Including WWI

[@visum4518]

They’re probably referring to when the US switched from an isolationist country to a superpower and interfering with foreign stuff a lot more often

[@enigmaticvaran6597]

Thanks to Russia, NATO is more United than ever

[@nutmaster7794]

It's a shame the US couldn't leave NATO beforehand

[@sjie1874]

Can we talk for a second about how radically the point of view for America has changed ... we are talking about the USA , a country that invested so much in good appearance, where everyone in the world knew about the American dream .... and now the whole world is appalled by what’s happening there , we are starting to see through the cracks of the so called American dream

[@sjie1874]

@Maru Govinda I’m not even from America dude , just stating facts

[@mctev]

people are nitpicking at america because a lot of the words pop culture and politics revolves around them

[@pipercharms7374]

@@mctev nitpicking? So Americans recent riots, the guns crime and heath care, trumps your president, so is just "nitpicking" when people from other countries just point it out and go hey, maybe US isn't as "great" as Americans like to think? I accept my countries flaws, yet to me and others, it feels like americans have issues accepting their own countries flaws.

[@mctev]

@@pipercharms7374 everyone knows the u.s. has flaws but they’re extremely exaggerated by ppl. why doesn’t anyone talk abt the conflict with muslims in france and europe and the terrorist attacks as much as they do with america’s problems? or how canada treats their natives? “america is a third world country with a gucci belt 🤪”. i commented to say that ppl just nitpick on america bc they’re the superpower of the world. all i’m saying is that america isn’t all that bad but they do have their problems.

[@ye7170]

They call it the American Dream because you gotta be asleep to believe it

[@shybee4104]

“The United States was alone until World War 2” *League of Nations slowly weeps in the corner*

[@andro1096]

League of Nations was basically useless

[@cake.]

US wasn't in the League of Nations

[@shybee4104]

@Xen never claimed it to be ;)

[@shybee4104]

@@cake. I honestly didn’t know about this. I knew Woodrow Wilson founded it, hence I kind of just assumed we were in it because that makes logical sense but hey gotta love isolationism :)

[@Mongolium]

Ineffective!

[@IKEMENOsakaman]

After 2 years, I don't know if the US and the allies are any closer.

[@aztronomy7457]

Russia made us closer

[@ocelot9680]

@@aztronomy7457 not really,it showed that a single country,with as weak of an economy as Russia,was able to destabilise the entirety of Europe,and considering how the us profited and the dollar got much more expensive,and how the opposite happened to America's allies,us-europe alliance is on the edge of collapsing,France complained about biden selling them gas 4 times the price, Britain is going into recession,same as Australia,this definitely wasn't any good

[@aztronomy7457]

@@ocelot9680 the recession is not because of Russia. It’s because they had to raise interest rates to combat inflation due to $ spent to keep the economy going during covid. This recession was predicted long before Russia invaded

[@abdullahpurewalgmail]

The US allied with Pakistan to fight the Soviets. When the job was done, they left Pakistan in the mess. This is also a reason the US is losing its ally Pakistan.

[@arpansarkar174]

@paritosh daurwal well that's just rude. I do care about Pakistan :/

[@arpansarkar174]

@paritosh daurwal are you Indian?

[@arpansarkar174]

@paritosh daurwal that explains everything. I bet your school shoved brain washed patriotism in your head and taught hating Pakistan and China -_-

[@mariecurie4696]

@@arpansarkar174 our schools never taught us these things. There main focus was on medicines, engineering etc. We don't waste our time to talk on countries like Pakistan , China or any other country unlike Pakistan.

[@arpansarkar174]

@@mariecurie4696 where did business studies go?

[@Nilvolentibusje]

Turkey: Hey US can I buy the patriot system? USA: No. Turkey: ok. Hey Russia can I buy the s400? Russia: sure you can buddy! USA: "OUR ALLIES HATES US!"

[@zakman9708]

No we don’t say our allies hate us, we say they are freeloading off of our military and won’t spend a measly 2%

[@FaDezZ_]

@@zakman9708 america will fall when europe is gone ;)

[@zakman9708]

@@FaDezZ_ all we are asking is for u to pay the service ur getting

[@romanoum0465]

@@zakman9708 there is no need to spend on military, we spend it on things that actually matter. Like healthcare.

[@francisjohnoca5710]

@@romanoum0465 okay heal your troops while getting invaded then.

[@elijahshimbo544]

Sometimes I wonder if it will really take an alien invasion to pull everyone together

[@lowenzahn3976]

Yes, similar to a common enemy like a global virus outbreak.

[@unbeatablesniper16]

I doubt it. Some people are just too tribal to ever "band together" against a threat. We'd still eat each other

[@harrypeng9028]

@@lowenzahn3976 are you sure about that? Lol

[@drpepper8855]

No, Trump would make a it contest.

[@adrianmiranda3674]

Honestly yes. Humans are historically the most territorial creatures on Earth, so it's not surprising anymore

[@Cryseris]

7:25 answer: no

[@LadyLazauraus]

This video taught me more than what my IR teacher taught in the entire year

[@emrysgeibhendach7572]

dear god please tell me you dont think vox is trust worthy information

[@LadyLazauraus]

Lol! Neither is my Professor

[@cebokhumalo602]

I'm not American, but this made me a whole lot more interested in the 2020 Elections

[@closerrl9851]

And that is exactly why this video served its purpose well.

[@strangedogthatisslightlyan7860]

America is the world superpower. We're the only reason the world isn't at war killing each other right now

[@neikels]

@@strangedogthatisslightlyan7860 that is probably true but the USA also started a lot of conflicts that didn't have to exist...

[@IWILLNEVERDIE885]

Even if your not American, the American president is the most influential leader in the world

[@zwiebelbaron5871]

ahh ahh nuclear weapons

[@luis_zuniga]

1:31 So, are we just going to ignore *Canada, Australia, India, South Africa, New Zealand, Poland, Brazil, Mexico, Ethiopia and all the other countries* who also fought in the war?

[@readyandwaitingwithasupris3693]

There are 8 or nine reasons that say no.

[@rajanyapurohit5113]

@ClickNSpam Over 87,000 Indian soldiers and 3 million Indian civilians died in World War II. Field Marshal Sir Claude Auchinleck, Commander-in-Chief, India, asserted the British "couldn't have come through both wars [World War I and II] if they hadn't had the Indian Army."

[@rajanyapurohit5113]

@ClickNSpam not only did we play a majorly significant role in winning Dunkirk, you are also forgetting the Japanese front.

[@islandsunset]

India was made to jump into the war. We had no wish to fight a European war. That could be said for Australia Ethiopia New Zealand etc who were made to fight by the European powers.

[@answerhan]

What about China? Who has fought Japan for 14 years with more than 20 million people died.

[@wancad5986]

I like how America underestimated Philippines like on their mind "you're not a big deal" on how is the situation in the philippines but we can be potentially on of the most strategically biggest assets that usa can get...

[@astrokitty.404]

this hits different during the chaos between ukrain and russia right now

[@ocelot9680]

Yep,this really showed Russia and China how things work,Russia and China didn't support even their own neighbors when the us attacked them,but when they did so with their hostile neighbours the us was the first to offer resources,the us should expect that any conflict it'll get involved in will beet with support from Russia,china,Iran,and even Saudi Arabia

[@curtiscarpenter9881]

Interesting to see Joe Biden. Back in the day.

[@JasmineLajaraHorror]

Right!? I almost didn’t recognize him.

[@A7XKoRnRocks1]

@@JasmineLajaraHorror Exactly, he's 77 now, I had to look it up, probably was in his 50s back then.

[@vitalityfox]

@@A7XKoRnRocks1 Biden has been in office since 1972. He was 29 years old when he was first elected.

[@diegojosevelasquezperez736]

The man breaths Politics, His whole life.

[@msg1001]

@@JasmineLajaraHorror These people were 20/30 year olds when they entered office and it didn't magically fix the problems. Putting more 20/30 year olds in office won't fix problems this time around either. I rather a range of all ages of qualified people who care about the country as a whole. Get the ones not doing their job out, but ageism isn't the answer.

[@setyourheartabl4ze]

"we would never abandon our allies" South Vietnam, Kurds : 👁👄👁

[@joaoyapur1247]

you forgot the taliban, trained by the cia

[@derahmanov]

@@joaoyapur1247 it is much worse, a betrayal

[@tylerwolfnsky8395]

South Korea

[@stigdagermann]

You thing kurds were USA allie? Or it Turkey? Turkey ego wannt back old ottamans Empire?

[@jettdyer7688]

@@joaoyapur1247 The Taliban where not US allies. They where tools.

[@kaushalgajjar7095]

What a wonderful and informative video ! A nation is strongest with its allies, but it’s weak alone

[@idkwhatnametochoose6197]

Well yes and no. If Europe doesn’t change its military policies, and America doesn’t protect them, that’s a whole lot of Millitary not being used, so they are strong. If Europe goes alone, and expands Millitary on there own. Then that’s a different story,

[@idkwhatnametochoose6197]

@RoastWorthy The only reason Russia is seen as easy to take over Europe is because Europe doesn't have a good millitary because they depend on America, if they start getting great millitaries, then it would be different.

[@idkwhatnametochoose6197]

@RoastWorthy Nationalist movements have been gaining traction in many European countries.

[@idkwhatnametochoose6197]

@RoastWorthy Many nationalists believe there nation needs to be strong to compared with others

[@idkwhatnametochoose6197]

@RoastWorthy Nationalist parties have been gaining power, like in Poland & Hungary, where nationalist leaders have power. In Slovenia nationalist parties have the plurality at 29/90 seats in parliament, same with North Macedonia. The nationalist party in Spain ironically called Vox gained seats.

[@TanvirKlion]

This one video answers a lot of questions today.

[@cameronlegree]

This guy speaks like he’s in a PS4 party after his parents went to bed and doesn’t want to wake them up

[@WorldwideTopTier]

Lol😂

[@maryelizabeth6797]

His research is so well done that his parents should raise his curfew. ❤️

[@bickyboo7789]

He's probably a spineless simp I'd wager.

[@tankriley2712]

"The idea of using alliances to stop wars was new." Ummm, no it wasn't. It was tried in the early 1900s and failed miserably and ultimately led to the Great War.

[@anonymoushy7815]

Inter connected alliances is actually what caused WWI in the first place lol

[@goastlyarrowplays]

@@anonymoushy7815 that what made the war so complicated, but the reason it was so massive was because of alliances.

[@livelifesurvive6375]

It goes much much much farther than that.

[@rattheninja2877]

I think the nukes of the modern day might make the alliance system of the 1900s much worse

[@BurningMad]

Also the Treaty of London in 1518.

[@brizzled5193]

This video aged well (for anyone confused, since the Ukraine-Russia war 2014-present new countries joined NATO including Japan and Germany increasing its military spending)

[@darkchocolate3390]

The NATO parts of this video aged so well.

[@JellyFlavoredGerman]

Vox: The idea of nations allying to prevent war was new. Triple Entente: Are we a joke to you?

[@Crazytechnition]

5th Century BC Delian League and Peloponnesian Leagues: Are we a joke to you?

[@noblechief4023]

Yeah I hate how they make it seem like America is the great and mighty first of everything. People have been allying without a specific war for thousands of years. The Egyptians and Hittites. The Delian League. The Pax Romana/Deorum. It was only during the medieval ages when that point stands but even then there were allies who specifically allied for trade and communal support.

[@blancavelasquez9859]

that’s what i’m saying🤣😭 they really simplied things way too far

[@Croz89]

Of course it that case it failed, horribly. The US's attempt was reasonably successful.

[@etoatoummhmm6391]

@kie America is the most powerful and richest but it isn’t the best country in the world. If you define the best county as rich and powerful your shallow and short minded.

[@nukekm1431]

"For hundreds of years, alliances had been used to fight and win specific wars. This was something new" The Concert of Europe: *Hey*

[@mattbowdenuh]

Apparently US history starts at WWII...so we forget about the late 19th century-WWI era.

[@anthonymarin1032]

@@mattbowdenuh i know, they say as if every one military is weak also

[@Nicole-ez7pm]

@@mattbowdenuh Forgot the XI century to the XVII and before like 😂😂

[@magnusm4]

@@mattbowdenuh Or the american fight for independence where France saved them from Britain despite not even half of the us colonists caring. And then again in the civil war where Lincoln managed to end the war and wanted to help the south, but was killed.

[@KDH-br6hy]

@@mattbowdenuh they didnt keep those alliances

[@akhilchandrashekar1725]

Absolutely incredible video Thank you so much

[@chrismoderate3495]

I just hate how alaska is not colored in as part of america here.

[@nytalix642]

I never thought about the alliances like being a border to stop opposing countries.

[@evancurtis4215]

they have some top notch visuals

[@11u510n15t]

That's how diplomacy works. That is how shrewd and interlinked all nations are. There isn't something as an algebraic expression, as everything has indirect tertiary consequences that require much knowledge and experience to foresee. Experience which the current president has none of. All he knows is how to run a hotel chain, which he probably delegates the majority of the decision making for anyways.

[@ratedr9672]

That’s the whole point 🙄

[@Robbythegod]

The famous "Iron Curtain" across Europe is what we're often taught about in the UK as a good example of that

[@igorTHEPOWERGUIDO]

Don't feel bad, neither did Trump I guess

[@jamessajeev6735]

Can we just take a moment to appreciate how much quality in graphics is put into these videos? Well done Vox team!

[@xyrildanmanuel783]

yeah,, i pretty much read about NATO and US's allies but i didn't understand much compared to how this video made things so clear and simple

[@Felix-wh8pz]

They are liberal

[@mikemulto2378]

Agree to that! The skill that Vox team is doing to portray topics with modern visuals as much as possible is astonishing!

[@red_amoguss]

They didn’t do proper research, discredited the impact of WW1 and other deals the US had during the 19th - 20th century, and made hideous accusations without convincing evidence? How much is Biden paying you, Vox?

[@StoneX24]

@@red_amoguss may I ask what exactly? Dont get me wrong, they should've at least mentioned a few things but I cant think of anything that is a big enough deal to completely discredit the point of the video.

[@petergeorge2450]

Thank you so much for this video

[@dogctor]

It makes sense why President Duterte wanted good terms with Russia and China, he prepared several peace talks. He also is still in good terms with America. What a smart leader

[@Junr-lc7no]

Honestly, I think America should start an alliance with Russia. China however, they need to get their act together.

[@jackh3570]

Defensive alliances have been around for hundreds of years. It's not a uniquely American thing invented after world war 2

[@jackh3570]

@Pratik Pokharel Triple Entente

[@Christian_TH]

Kind of right, kind of wrong. Its like they say in the video. Historic alliances were about spesific wars. No alliance in history comes close to the size, power and importance than that of Nato. So actually yes, it is a unique thing invented after WW2.

[@kendomyers]

I think what is new isnt just a guarantee of neutrality or mutual defense but an enforcement of a global economic system Like jazz, listen to the notes not being played: US led capitalism

[@bobthebob9711]

@@Christian_TH lol wat, Antente and Central Powers before WW1 same idea, but we had WW1, UK and France(by the time like 70% of all world’s territory) had the same idea before WW2, but we had WW2 Americans definitely aren’t the ones the invent the idea, but the ones that succeeded in implementing it

[@aryan201]

Thanks god some countries instead choose to non align with these pacts like the Non Alignment moment, it proves that there is a way to be independent and safe

[@fernandocosta9320]

I would like to point out that a permanent alliance was not somenthing never done before, Portugal and England have been allies for over 600 years. Yes the general rule was to ally in a war to war basis but there were exceptions.

[@lilaclizard4504]

ANZACS from ww1 onwards too, to the point that the "army corps" part of that acronym has become obsolete, both countries evacuating each other's citizens during covid, co-ordinating responses, sitting in on each other's government's confidential cabinet meetings etc. Pretty sure Scandinavia would have a similar history too & many others, I mean even the UK, what's that exactly if not a permanent, super strong alliance between 4 countries?

[@kilougi]

Its not talking of that kind of permanent alliance. Its talking of a new kind of paradigm for the international relations, alliances in regards of universalism values, a quintessential american introduction to the international relations. That Wilson proposed at first, but wasn't implemented till the WWII. What the video is talking about it the other kind of alliances that were the norm in Europe and the world in general before, the alliances based on raison d etat, on the national interest of the moment. That's why when you see the wars of the XIXth century alliances are really shortlasting and interchangable according to the next national interest. Read Diplomacy -Kissinger for more info. And Portugal and Uk was AN EXCEPTION, not the norm.

[@Ghreinos]

Actually the whole HRE was a alliance, not a good one, but it was one.

[@kilougi]

@@Ghreinos no it wasn't in any form.

[@Ghreinos]

@@kilougi it was Oldenburg was over centuries ally to Brandenburg/Prussia, the turingian states were allies with saxony, Bavaria, Baden and Württemberg were over centuries allies with Austria. The Roman states in the HRE were allies and there were many other alliances between states in the HRE witch lasted over centuries.

[@tianelle1155]

love your content bro. very comprehensive

[@skaven6188]

Sayin the UK had a small military after WW2 is very bold of vox to say, very bold