How Anorexia Tore Apart Identical Twins: A Tragic Tale | Real Stories Full-Length Documentary

This fascinating documentary follows 35-year-old Dutch identical twins Lisbeth and Angelique as they wrestle with their love / hate relationship and extreme dependence on each other. Both sisters have anorexia and their struggles with food are agonising to watch. They visit anorexia and twin specialist Janet Treasure in London and at the end of the programme Angelique (the twin most badly affected by anorexia) embarks on a hospital programme. For anyone intersted in the darker side of identical twins this programme will make compelling viewing.
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[@relentless319]

As a former anorexic having had a decade of treatment, these two girls need to be as far from each other as possible in order to be healthy. They need completely separate lives.

[@danamichelle1290]

That sounds SOOO difficult but I think you're right! Congrats on recovery ❤️❤️

[@lorriekruse5491]

I agree. They really need separate lives so they can grow into themselves. They seem so miserable and argue so much. That’s not healthy. I hope the video is only showing their moments of dysfunction and that the off camera moments are much happier times.

[@mathildewesendonck7225]

They have probably never been away from each other.. I agree with you, but I think it will be very hard

[@Elly-caitlin93]

Yes absolutely!❤

[@StrangeLittlePoet123]

Look up the wallmeyer twins. They’ll hurt themselves before letting that happen

[@DiZoSoMom]

The way they bash the other twins for dressing the same and call them “pathetic” and then sit and divide their food in identical pieces… it just shows how far from our perspective of reality they really live. Delusional.

[@intentionallyleftblank3016]

Also, I mean, they WERE dressed alike. 😂

[@meganwaite82]

I agree! The others dressed marching for the event, probably live separately, have different jobs, have families and different friends from one another.. but they are going to call them pathetic for dressing the same during a twin event? Pretty judgmental.. emphasis on the mental..

[@ChardeeMacdennis339]

Yeah I thought they were very rude to those women….

[@skeptigal2785]

Bash other twins for dressing alike...while they both wear navy blue long-sleeved t-shirts with their hair fixed identically...carrying identical luggage...

[@tundrawomansays694]

Agreed. “We were no longer *special*” Deargawd, I hope someone can poke a hole in their narcissistic bubble of BS.

[@p-h-a-n-t-o-m]

i’ve never seen two people who despise each other so much be so codependent

[@anyaw340]

I don't think they truly hate each other. I think they hate being codependent because they know it negatively impacts their lives and makes them different from everyone else. They know they are feeding off of each other to continue this unhealthy way of living, but at the same time, don't know how to be without each other.

[@smiley2477]

@@anyaw340perfectly said

[@audreymuzingo933]

You should look up the Gibbons twins (AKA the silent twins). They were a lot like these sisters but even stranger. They are featured in lots of videos.

[@cathytalik556]

I doubt a physiatrist could figure this out?

[@jacqueline8559]

I'm a Quad, 2 sets of twins who all looked very alike. My identical twin died shortly before birth. So I am one, and my sisters are twins. They are both very alike, in a bad way. Angry, judgemental, mean spirited , narcissistic like my mum. I am an ex midwife, and a Psychotherapist. They don't understand why I want to "listen to people moan every day" in my work. I did volunteer work with the homeless. They? They think the homeless should be in a special camp, somewhere,where they won't ruin the Streets. We were dressed identically as children. They loved it. I loathed it, and being stopped in the Street , by strangers , who wanted to compare and photograph us!! Years of bullying and toxicity took its toll, leading to me developing an Eating disorder. 14 years ago, I had finally reached the end of allowing misery a foothold in my life. My family and I emigrated 14 years ago. I've never seen them, or talked to them, since, Nor do I plan to. I'm finally free, healthy and happy!! These twins , all dressed the same , are abnormal to me. Nobody is meant to walk through life as a clone. That said, these Twins are very mentally and emotionally unstable. They are the last thing each needs in their lives! I wish them freedom and happiness

[@spieterman3065]

Update: since I’m also Dutch I looked them up & it seems like they have a more healthy relationship now. They don’t live together anymore & Liesbeth has a child.

[@Moratuoa12]

That sounds good

[@ellecee453]

I find it concerning that she has a child.

[@gabe-po9yi]

The food ritual is one of the most pathological things I’ve ever seen. Truly unsettling.

[@teresawester5770]

Very! It’s hard to watch.

[@realemonful]

You wouldn't want to hear what I could say about users like you!

[@teresawester5770]

@@realemonful What are you even talking about? You make absolutely NO sense!!! So you are right nobody cares about what you have to say!!!!

[@maggiemarie1349]

@@teresawester5770 they don’t care about what you have to say either

[@teresawester5770]

Maggie, you’re so smart. Duh? What are you, in third grade? So mature. I guess people can’t help stupid. But, good luck with that. You need it!

[@monicasanfillipo3313]

My husband is an identical twin, I believe when they are young children they need to be able to establish their own identity. My husband's mother had put them in grade school in separate classes just so they can learn their own independence

[@celinescrappassion2184]

i am a twin, and this is what was recommended to our parents, to put us in seperate classes. Because twins really dont need anyone else than each other. So if they are placed together in the same class, they will not socialize with other kids. It is so important to let them have their own space, and develop friendships with different people, and let them have their own identities. Because twins are alike physically, but they are different individuals that should be allowed to be who they want to be, seperately. Those twins are pathetic, and act like toddlers. The problems is not the fact that they are twins, it goes deeper than that. They need help, and i hope they got the help that they need. Because they will never be able to be happy, seperately.

[@ToeKnife166]

I always wondered what parents of twin are thinking when they buy two of exact outfit and match the twins everyday. I find it to be very strange and boring.

[@ChardeeMacdennis339]

Yeah I thought this was the normal way to handle twins in school. It’s probably also distracting for them to be in classes with each other and keeps them from learning as much.

[@christinemomy8018]

​@@celinescrappassion2184 are you fraternal or identical?

[@celinescrappassion2184]

@@christinemomy8018 we are identical twins 7 minutes apart.

[@sarahewson3607]

Seeing them at the twins convention was very sad. I definitely feel this has roots in their childhood. There’s no excuse for how she ridiculed the twins for dressing the same though. It angered me, but it does show how they despise being twins.

[@kimmoore0427]

Yea I found it very rude. It seems they have no social skills obvi

[@SuzyQ334]

What a miserable pair the Dutch twins are? All the others look really happy to be there.

[@sherrydobbins188]

Some people enjoy being sad..I think it's their Thing

[@dagmarbeeke6163]

They seem to have a disability of some sort.

[@kimmoore0427]

@omarbain1988 well perhaps you don't think ENOUGH! #SitDownQueen

[@moniquevanleeuwen6514]

The way they react to other twins being happy is so sick and disturbing.

[@zxyatiywariii8]

It makes their own misery seem worse. 😕

[@youknowimright1725]

@@zxyatiywariii8 yhea, that's definitely a big part of it

[@deactivated148]

This is like having the mean voice in your head become physical

[@Unit68]

Such a good way of putting it! I have anorexic tendencies to this day (age 55) and a long history of eating disorders from early teens. If my inner voice was manifested as a twin being of myself I would have a similar relationship with my sister version of me as these two do.

[@badrabbitt17]

Listening to them argue is tortuous. The whining is like toddlers is ridiculous. I imagine it’s hard for them to find friends as well. I really hope they separated, went to therapy, and expanded their horizons. This is just sad.

[@teresawester5770]

I agree! It’s really hard to listen to them. They need a lot of help.

[@colleenlally-ross7105]

​@teresawester5770 I could only get thru 10 mins and had to turn it off. But really watching all the other twins at the convention dancing and laughing while they bicker about food and how much they hate being a twin tells me they seem to be determined to be miserable. Very sad...

[@roxanamcglinchey6613]

This is very hard to watch! I don't think I can continue watching them. Their so unwell and childish..

[@teresawester5770]

@@roxanamcglinchey6613 Yep! I agree. They are just ugly inside.

[@Photoartc]

What I would’ve done to be a twin or even have a sister or brother. I’m sorry, but I feel these girls are ridiculous and do not deserve to be twins.

[@echavez12]

I’m an identical twin too, and I know for many this documentary and these sister’s behaviors are hard to understand, but I can, in a way see myself in them in some sense. My parents raised my sister and I very dependent of each other. We dressed the same, went to the same school, had the same friends, shared the same room, etc. We first started taking separate classes during our second year of college. It was so hard!We would cried or feel insecure when we were apart, even when we were already adults. I didn’t know how to make even the simplest decisions on my own. Making friends was just very hard. Now we’re better, but it’s taken a lot of work and therapy. Twins are individuals, so if you’re reading this and have twins, treat them as individuals from the beginning. We allowed our family to call us twins, instead of our names, and we have never called each other by our names. I just call her sister. Don’t let that happen to your kids. I love my sister to pieces, but I wish I could have discover myself and my own identity from earlier in life.

[@zammmerjammer]

I hope you and your sister weren't given rhyming names. I find that so obnoxious. I work with medical records and I remember coming across a record for a brand newborn set of twins. The parents had given them nearly identical names -- think something like Ayan and Eyan -- so only different by one letter and pretty much pronounced the same unless you REALLY emphasized that vowel. These babies were only a day or two old and I had to write to the administrator because their medical records were ALREADY being jumbled together. I don't know what the parents were thinking, but these poor kids will be getting confused for each other, and getting each others mail and bills, for the REST OF THEIR LIVES.

[@sarahkerton741]

wow, how much I can relate to this as an identical twin. I felt so much of my childhood was striving to be different because we were never seen as individuals.

[@windybeach2184]

@@zammmerjammer, it’s hard enough not mixing up your kids’ names when they have just one similar sound, let alone something so matchy matchy.

[@propertyofranger]

Our primary school’s policy was to separate twins at the beginning of Year 2 to help develop resilience and independence. I think we were 6 at the time, and I remember sobbing hysterically in front of the whole school assembly when they split us up whilst being allocated into our new classes. But I got over it pretty quickly and we thrived in classes away from each other. I’m grateful for that experience now.

[@TheRosenstand]

This is by far the worst case of pathological symbiosis I have ever come across. Watching this documentary at times almost made me feel sick to my stomach.

[@SavannahVu1985]

Yeah me too. It was so hard for me to comprehend how deep of a hole they were in & how insane their situation was. Truly unnerving that’s for sure.

[@TheRosenstand]

@@SavannahVu1985 Hi Savannah, I almost gave up watching it till the end. The level of sickness made me feel sick.

[@TheRosenstand]

@@SavannahVu1985 there's a duality to it. Watching them made me feel sympathy as well as anger.

[@dianestevens2659]

They should have been separated years ago

[@jacqueline8559]

​​​​​​​​​@@AmyraBatya Absolutely. There is very little love left in this 'relationship'. If it was ever really there at all. I know, having been in a toxic Triplet sisters relationship. For my health , and sanity, I chose to walk away and leave my narcissistic, toxic, sisters behind. I need to prioritise myself, my husband and 2 adult sons. We emigrated from the UK 14 years ago. I never want to see, or hear from, my sisters again. This way, I'm finally free of Anorexia Nervosa, and am healthy and happy.These twins desperately need to be separated. This programme actually unsettled me so much, I feel physically sick just watching it. Angelique drives me mad, in particular. Leisbeths boyfriend has lied to get out of the 'relationship' 👍

[@mollyh9356]

This is honestly one of the most severe and bizarre forms of OCD I've ever seen. Their need to control everything is strange. They're both in need of intense therapy.....for life.

[@bluecube7247]

They control the other twin... cruelly to the edge of death ... they hate each other is their problem

[@neversaw]

It's not ocd it's exactly what anorexia is like, there's deep seeded issues

[@ThatBlasianChick]

@@neversaw OCD & eating disorders commonly co-occur . studies show that those with eating disorders have statistically higher rates of OCD & vice versa .

[@monikaoesch790]

These two are really crazy. this is not normal, completely absurd and sick. I can't watch it, thanks, but no. What does this documentary want to tell us? The two of them are completely wrong in their heads, belong in the madhouse, but separate from each other!

[@myriaml173]

I thought it was really rude to call those other twins circus freaks or pathetic

[@sweetla4750]

She was beyond rude to all of them,trying so hard to make them feel like they do…beyond sick

[@toebeans6568]

Incredibly rude and funny too because my first impression of them was "they look like movie versions of a vampire!" They judged all the other twins when they look strange themselves. Someone should have told them "people who live in glass houses"

[@Marz_barz420]

I know it made so upset when they where being rude

[@kathrynn3936]

I think she was asking the other twins if they ever felt like freaks, because they do. They’re trying to find others with the same experience as themselves.

[@kellyj817]

​@@kathrynn3936 But she told the pair dressed alike that they were pathetic for doing so. So incredibly rude and unnecessary. Also ironic because her and her sister were dressed alike as well!

[@naboegrainger1132]

Sadly, their lives are no different than that of people with a debilitating substance abuse. They're so isolated and lonely. My heart goes out to them

[@guardiansanimalrescuestate7289]

Totally different. Eating disorders r about control

[@sygyzy0933]

Really no need to compare because its very different

[@cindys3435]

A co-dependent relationship is hard to treat for many reasons. I lost my daughter to addiction. She would get better and then shortly after she was back with him and she lost her life. It’s a really hard thing to break!

[@cautionTosser]

@@guardiansanimalrescuestate7289 really? It may start out that way, but is that where it ends? Because they sure didn't look like they were in control. It looked like the disease was controlling them. So in that respect at least it is exactly the same as substance abuse. No one starts using drugs to be an addict. And I feel confident that no one starts watching their intake in the hopes that one day they will be dividing croutons FFS.

[@albertawheat6832]

@@cindys3435 My condolences on the loss of your daughter. Peace to you.

[@xxcobu]

Anyone wonder if Lisbeth's internet boyfriend was really "sick" and died or if they just wanted out of the "relationship"? It just seems weird to me that someone that I am assuming claimed they were family or a friend was like "oh they are in a coma", "oh by the way they died and there is no body or grave for you to visit as proof". This person would have had to know the importance of their connection to reach out to her in the first place, so I can't imagine why someone wouldn't tell someone's partner when to come for the memorial.

[@Madi-yc8xt]

No that’s exactly what I’m thinking

[@prettypleasewithsugarontop4858]

I assumed the same as well

[@braxlucky5718]

Maybe he was trying to to run a scam to get money from them

[@ShivsGhost]

Definitely gave me catfish vibes

[@user-ew2px6nz1u]

I definitely asked mys3lf if this boyfriend was an illusion or if the story was a fantasy orif there was somebody who told her he wasn't interested or whatever. Too bizarre to be a true story.

[@Sharon_L_W]

This is a heartbreaking example of toxic codependency. It’s like drug addicted partners.. you feel safety and comfort with only your partner, because you’re both deeply entrenched in the same disease that isolates you from the rest of the world. You end up sharing an identity that is flawed. I’m a recovering anorexic and can’t imagine the added torture of having a bond so close with someone that it becomes a rivalry.. the anxieties and obsessiveness is shared and must be equal between you otherwise anxiety is increased and fuels the ED. They aren’t happy. They’re trapped. I hope they find the strength to seek and stick to recovery.. first step for them is to learn that it’s okay and healthy to want to do something for THEMSELVES - and not feel obligated to do anything based on the other person. Just as they fuel each other’s illness, they can equally and powerfully fuel each other’s recovery by taking care of themselves as individuals. You can see how warped the illness has made them by how they judge other twins for dressing the same.. yet they go to further and darker extremes by ensuring they consume the same, exercise the same, treat their bodies the same.. in a destructive way. The other twins aren’t ruled by their outfits - yet these twins are ruled by their own obsession. Anorexia is a mind altering death trap.

[@shayneelizabeth358]

Best comment. Completely wrapped it up perfectly.

[@APBTLoverS]

Yes! Preach. Anorexia alone is a horrible awful dark sickness which I'm currently struggling to recover from as well. Having a twin fuel it and impower it sounds 100% worse 😔

[@Sharon_L_W]

@@APBTLoverS hope you’re doing okay ❤️

[@user-cp1co5vl7m]

watching them at the twin festival makes me feel sad for them. you can tell they feel a superiority complex with all those other twins and are just miserable that other twins can live healthy, happy lives when they don't.

[@emnem1212]

i honestly think it's mostly angelic. look at leisbeth throughout the whole twin fest. she doesn't mind at all. angelic definitely has that superiority complex you're talking about. but shes just 100% miserable. leisbeth is a bit different

[@itsmeeeeeeeee6096]

They genuinely seem like the unhappiest twins on the planet… It’s Heartbreaking To Watch💔💔

[@anitatencer968]

They enable each other's illness. They need to separate.

[@kmiller0402]

I agree. They need to be on different continents. ❤

[@carrieanncancino5118]

They have. Liseabeth had 2 children. They both have Instagram

[@ugh431]

Anorexia can bring out OCD symptoms when your brain is starved of nutrients. Wouldn’t be surprised if needing to match their food exactly has a compulsive element to it. Angelique was described as a perfectionist. I feel bad for them, obviously there was something traumatic about growing up as a twin, and this documentary captures them at the worst moment of their lives. So happy to read they’ve grown and moved on.

[@user-nt3pg4fb1d]

i had anorexia and totaly agree- the more weight i lost the more ocd was there , hate, stress, perfectionism -- but it was never my charakter.

[@windybeach2184]

It’s hard to tell which way around it occurred, but it wouldn’t surprise me if untreated OCD led to their disordered eating

[@sharimeline3077]

I can't believe one of them said she thinks they're happy. They seem so miserable. I hope they get help.

[@sherrydobbins188]

Think their idea of happy is different from rest of us.saddest young people..

[@Kleigh8484]

Sometimes familiarity, safety and comfort is their version of happiness. Angelique seems so stuck in that place and terrified to step out of it. Liesbeth seems more willing and able but struggles with hurting her sister and maybe feels responsible for taking her away from her career so owes her this. It's really sad and I wish the best for them.

[@vetinaalvarez4004]

They are trying so hard to save and love each other but they are truly killing each other!!!!

[@nicolinadoe6427]

i feel like i need therapy after that

[@kimberlypoole5325]

I was exhausted watching them divide their food. That is no way to live.

[@Tangutica]

Am I alone in thinking that the boyfriend story was a bit fishy? She had no way of contacting him. I couldn't help suspecting he wanted to find a way to finish it without having to tell her.

[@faeoftheswamp2610]

I think he could’ve been an anorexia fetishist. I’m pretty sure that she did end up meeting him for food before he stopped contacting her. So my theory is that after so many months of grooming a connection with her, when he met her & she wasn’t as skeletal as he’d imagined, he faked the aneurism to cut her off. Idk but as someone who’s been groomed by anorexia fetishists, that’s what comes to mind.

[@nickolespears]

It took me too long to find my comment, im SHOCKED!!!!

[@linnig4759]

Exactly my thoughts too. He was truly married cause he could only call from work and didn´t gave her his number. Maybe he wanted a virgin (or left cause of that when he didn´t want to be serious) and maybe faked his own death after they first met cause he saw all the problems she was in?

[@rileytimes]

Fishy? Perhaps... Catfishy?

[@TheStarsAlly]

Thank you! I was searching for this comment.

[@theowlfromduolingo7982]

I think their parents failed partly during their upbringing to not raise / socialize them as individuals because they are. But still, having a close special bond with your twin is crucial and as adults it’s their choice.

[@vetinaalvarez4004]

Yup they hate everybody and everything especially the one twin that doesn’t want the other sister to leave!!!!!

[@sonquatsch8585]

@@vetinaalvarez4004 yeah it is hard for me to feel sorry for them since their behavior at the twins festival was HORRID. just trying to be a dark cloud among others who were having fun. no thank you.

[@vetinaalvarez4004]

@@sonquatsch8585 yup I swear !!! Everything was I hate this I hate that !!! Wish them the best

[@theowlfromduolingo7982]

@@vetinaalvarez4004 To me a relationship no matter what kind of relationship becomes highly dangerous if there’s such a strong dependency between the two. They couldn’t live with the other person and are never interested to get to know other people

[@teresawester5770]

I not trying to be mean but I don’t like them at all. They are 2 of the most negative, hateful, miserable, ungrateful people I have ever seen!

[@shellywaskom6219]

This is as sick as it gets. They need serious help.

[@Domorrigana]

They were quite rude to the other attendees at the twins festival, quite jarring

[@stephaniepantalonie]

I don't know why they even went if they dislike twinness

[@dianehess5520]

When they argue is the worst , I could not stand to be around those two.

[@nessarochelle7227]

I have a twin (my only sibling) and I can’t imagine life without her. We say the same things at the same time, read each others minds and so much unconditional love for one another. She’s literally my other half, best friend, and soul mate. It’s sad how they view other twins.

[@mollykoenig7009]

Are you independent from each other, for the most part?

[@tdecker2937]

I don’t remember when I’ve ever seen such dysfunction. To say they have a pathological relationship is the BIGGEST UNDERSTATEMENT. The way I see it, unless they are separated and receive intensive help for their mental illness, they will die young.

[@carmensantana8457]

They need intense therapy....

[@shannonbritton5313]

These girls need serious psychological help. I hope they have been in therapy. This is such a severe case of co dependency.

[@sherrydobbins188]

They definitely need to be separated.. immediately..

[@daniaroundtheworld1357]

I was a teacher at a kindergarten in China, and I had a set of twins in my class that parents didn't want to separate, and I watched them repeating almost the same thing. They were not identical, and the girl was def "dominant". It was a daily struggle with food, as the boy only ate what the girl ate. and even if I put them far away, they would still look over each other and watch if they were still eating, and would stop if the other one had stopped. Hope they can grow out of this. It's very unsettling to watch this competition.

[@keztukariri]

My sister has twin boys and from year 2 or 3 at school she insisted they were in different classrooms. That's all it took for them to establish their own identities ❤️

[@oliviamartini9700]

Wish more parents had the common sense your sister has...

[@pierrotcrow]

my twin sister and I also were required to be in separate classes after our first year of school, and I'm so glad for that. Even in separate classes people sometimes treated us like the same person, but we were able to have time apart from one another to form relationships and identities separately. we didn't like being separated initially, but it was the best thing for us in the long run.

[@Eowyn126]

This is a fascinating and heartbreaking documentary. It’s clear Lisbeth is the healthier of the 2, but they’re both so deep in their pathology. I hope they can get out and get healthier

[@lorinelson7523]

Their behavior at the twins convention was insulting to the other twins there. It seems they are so unhappy in their situation, they can't imagine that other twins were happy and well adjusted in their relationship.

[@abeeral-qattan5997]

My identical twin sister and I are 52 years old. We can’t imagine life without each other even though we both have our own separate family that we love dearly, we have never had an argument and our Mom always tells us that even in our first years of our life , we never had a fight . This is the first time in my life that I see twins that don’t love their special relationship!!I understand these twins have a psychological disorder, but giving themselves the right to be nasty to others at the twins convention, gives me the impression that they are using their special “twins” case to get the attention/reaction from others ! I might be wrong and I hope I am because it makes me really sad to see this dysfunctional relationship when it is supposed to be the best bond in the world .

[@VadaVoo]

Great example of 'arrested development'. As long as they're together it will always be like they are still children...bickering about everything and just being toxic in general. I saw on instagram that Liesbeth has 2 GORGEOUS, HAPPY looking kids.☺ Good to know she is no longer emotionally held hostage by her sister. It's a mystery how I made it through the whole video though. 🤔

[@jvdoe9714]

What’s the name on IG?

[@Marlinha]

@@jvdoe9714 liesbethraeven

[@Marlinha]

@@jvdoe9714 and @l.a.raeven

[@VadaVoo]

@@jvdoe9714 @liesbethraeven is the one with the children. And @l.a.raeven is the name of their business they still run. And it's def about eating issues and is very 'dark' and will make someone feel a certain kind of way, for sure.

[@annt7384]

Anorexia is a seriously tormented vibe killer, and it’s warped their sensibilities to such an extent that, combined with their issues of twinned and sisterhood, that it’s dangerous being together but even more dangerous being alone. 😢 it will take a lot of work to break out of that cycle, but I hope they can start.

[@HomesteadingWays]

I raised identical twin boys. They were part of my brood of 7. I didn't dress them alike beyond infancy and even then it was only because I received so many twin outfits from friends and family. I could tell them a part, but their siblings couldn't until they were about 4 or 5. I encouraged their individuality and they did have different personalities even though they liked much of the same things. I even asked if they wanted separate birthdays...lol. As a family, we, of course acknowledged their twiness, but it didn't define them. They are in their 30s now. One recently moved to Texas for work (the rest of us are in Wisconsin), but they still stay in touch daily.

[@helenestiernstrand6575]

If their siblings could not tell em apart why didnt you give them different hairstyles?

[@cindimonks5661]

These two drive me nuts with their bickering about the tiniest bits of food! They act like 2 year old throwing tantrums!

[@channah144]

Have they never heard of food scales? Just weigh both dishes to see they are the same. I'm not condoning this behavior, but it's painful to watch.

[@kathywrightjohnson6804]

I watched a documentary on these ladies a few years ago. We have twins in the family and this really hit my heart. I couldn't imagine being so close like that and so obsessed like that. It ruled every aspect of their lives. It was so sad.

[@904daniela]

We had twins living across from our apartment. They were ALWAYS fighting - screaming matches and slamming doors practically every day. It was a real blessing for the whole building when one of them moved out.

[@janhorton5197]

We separated our identical mirror twins in grade one. They loved it and although one always climbs into the other bed to sleep and cuddle, they are very happy. ANd they choose their own style of clothing.

[@kristengould2637]

I am an identical twin. We are 36 years old and she has been my best friend for my whole life, and vice versa. I’m happily married and we have healthy, strong friendships of our own. But she always brings me so much joy. Being a twin has been the greatest gift of my life.

[@JenniferBrisee]

They are literally arguing like 5 year olds and then pouting. Like they are 35. Grow up! I couldn’t even make it past the 10 min mark.

[@tdgreer]

This dynamic is bizarre, to say the least.

[@bcatblues725]

Hard to watch how unhappy and ill they both are.. especially together, I hope they separated from each other and found better quality of life.

[@jdax21]

Good grief, just watching them interact with eachother is tedious and exhausting. I can only imagine how it must feel to be that pathologically driven by anxiety every second of your waking life. I sincerely hope they get away from eachother soon. This is horrifying.

[@That_BIack_Cat]

Oh, it just breaks my heart to see how these girls are living. They are young and lovely and should be enjoying the bond that they share. Heart wrenching.

[@xylondacollins]

Their questions at the twin convention they asked are offensive! I'm a identical twin myself. I thank my parents for raising me and my twin sister as 2 individuals.

[@toebeans6568]

Agreed, I wonder if they are really that oblivious to how rude they are? I was hoping someone would come back at them with a rude comment towards them!

[@xylondacollins]

​@@toebeans6568 yes, if it was me. I would put them in their place! Sad seeing that they depend on each other heavily. Food pact they made? They should've eat from their own plates! Doesn't matter how much amount of food there are.

[@BlueBerry-tc6tz]

For me it really exemplifies how messed up their way of thinking is, they are identical twins as well so they think of themselves as circus freaks, clones, etc. it’s very hard to watch and definitely offensive but deeply depressing

[@Weissguys6]

“These people are all so happy. It’s horrible.” 😂

[@SonjaBecky]

Love this doco. I come back to it every couple of years (it's been posted on other channels).

[@homegrownstranger4661]

Since they want to consume equal amounts of food, they should use a food scale.

[@GrisouIII]

This feels like « folie à deux ». I wish them happiness.

[@salvadorpalma8173]

They are incredibly judgemental and I feel that hasn't much to do with being twins.

[@giovanna722]

It has a lot to do with anorexia, though.I personally don't know anybody with anorexia, but I doubt that there are very many happy ones around. It's an awful disease.

[@salvadorpalma8173]

@@giovanna722 what does that have to do with offending other twins, calling them pathetic. Ffs. They split potato crumbs.

[@girlsurfingtheinternet8195]

@@salvadorpalma8173 i think it can have something to do with them constantly judging themselves so they are projecting on other people. they seem to deep inside hate the twin thing, and maybe they feel stuck in it, so maybe they think thats how others feel...

[@salvadorpalma8173]

@@girlsurfingtheinternet8195 have you seen or remember the doc? there is a part that they are in a twin convention/gathering and they call other people pathetic to their faces

[@lissettelovesbats1770]

But why split up food the most complicated way possible?

[@marthaj67]

They really seem like toddlers in the bodies of thirty-five year olds. How terribly sad. But I have to wonder....they're "performance artists". So, how much of their behaviour is really just "performance art"?

[@lynzyrisingsun]

They look truly miserable. It’s sad

[@Maru2010Lu]

The twin sisters Liesbeth and Angelique Raeven, who together form the artist duo L.A. Raeven, have got themselves a robot clone. So a third sister, actually. Her name is Annelies, and you could meet her at the exhibition Robot Love during Dutch Design Week (DDW). Play video Where most robots are just serving people, Annelies is someone who has to be served herself: she sits sadly in a corner, and when you try to comfort her, she will look back with a face full of tears. We followed the sisters in their creative process, and they talked about the ideas behind their project. Unlike most exhibitions during DDW, Robot Love is still on show and can be visited at the new Campina Area in Eindhoven until the 2nd of December.

[@karengarson5715]

How old are these people? They argue like small children. 😢. So sad.

[@karengarson5715]

Nobody talked to them about autonomy. Sisters but two people/bodies. Why is their brains so under developed?

[@colleenroyle588]

Omg these women need serious serious therapy for a whole plethora of reasons.. so sad..I am wondering if they are hiding some trauma that got them here

[@sighborg_]

They’re 35

[@wendyberdan7830]

It’s so sad to see them so co-dependant on each other. It’s not healthy. Their lives are driven by anxiety. I hope the best for them and that they get the help they deserve.

[@caribee4me833]

I can feel their sympathetic nervous systems through this video.

[@emmawoods1295]

The food thing is so strange and unsettling. They truly act like little kids. I wish they had parents or other siblings to step in and get them help

[@danielsoto3281]

Did she just say those women were pathetic and should be ashamed of themselves? Whoa. Tells us how you really feel. My god. And yet they're the ones with smiles and enjoying their lives.

[@deborahmulkey1627]

What is their family psych history? How was their childhood? More info!

[@mathildewesendonck7225]

This is so sad! My mom (now 83 years old) is an identical twin. She and her sister have been living far away from each other since they were 20. But they are best friends and have a strong bond, they are so resilient, happy and positive. I always wanted to have a twin sister myself. I thought it was the most amazing thing in the world, never knew that there were unhappy twins out there!

[@winros]

A very compelling documentary!

[@lindavanocker1841]

The "boyfriend" is alive and well but not who he claimed to be. Its rather obvious.

[@aprilwoodall5859]

And the award for most annoying twins goes to……

[@danamichelle1290]

The one to the right.

[@kiraflash4596]

The Twins on a twins convention: ”All these people are so happy.. it’s awful!” 😂😂😂

[@anniehope8651]

I'm Dutch and I remember them being on TV as artists quite often some years ago. They were somewhat famous. Now I realise I haven't seen them for a while.

[@s.c.8591]

This is terrifying… I hope these women are able to find themselves outside of each other.

[@murpesc43]

They think dressing alike is ridiculous but not eating exactly alike? Hard to understand that dichotomy.

[@vetinaalvarez4004]

I think the boyfriend thing was some scam!!!! As soon as he was supposed to meet her he has a stroke and then dies and then they’re cremated. She never had his number.!!! I’m sorry

[@salvadorpalma8173]

Oh I got to that part now. Definitely a catfish taking advantage.

[@kmiller0402]

I agree ❤

[@MagentaDreams70]

Romance Scam. My thoughts too.

[@faeoftheswamp2610]

I think he could’ve been an anorexia fetishist. I’m pretty sure that she did end up meeting him for food before he stopped contacting her. So my theory is that after so many months of grooming a connection with her, when he met her & she wasn’t as skeletal as he’d imagined, he faked the aneurism to cut her off. Idk but as someone who’s been groomed by anorexia fetishists, that’s what comes to mind.

[@teresayates8274]

It's too bad that their serious, untreated mental disorder with food has taken over and ruined their lives and potential relationships. They have reduced their entire existence to something that doesn't matter. And they can't even understand the life that they are throwing away by talking to other twins. Sad.

[@amandamiller6995]

There's no questions that eating disorders can be fatal. AND obviously they have suffered for a long time. I wish them the very best in their long journeys towards recovery and wellness whether it's together or separate. Warmest regards from Greensboro, NC USA.

[@ROSSIGRL584]

I’d be interested in seeing a follow up now 15 yrs later

[@Albertwildhorseshoer]

I am a twin, these women are turning inward on themselves . They need to work toward separation. One chooses illness to stay connected, perhaps to trap her sister. The other wants to help but dominates out of resentment over her sisters lack of desire to move towards independence. Neither has decided to take the step and stay apart.

[@moonlighteternal8024]

This is so sad..I really hope these girls find happiness- they truly deserve it.

[@not4theweak00]

They r so toxic for each other it makes me anxious watching it.

[@Jess-Rabbit]

I'm sorry but their "vigorous exercise routine" cracked me up. They were just flailing aimlessly

[@kerilockwood7819]

Would love to know if how they were treated in their childhood has contributed in some way to their obvious mental health issues.

[@liatl8228]

They are so rude to people. My sons twin died just before my son was born. They should be more grateful to have each other and be kind to other people.

[@terryKessler42719]

These poor girls. Identical twins, but so different. One appears so normal and the other appears different. They’re both beautiful and don’t realize it. What a sad story.

[@kb9847]

A complicated illness made even more complicated with this twin relationship. I'm sad for them. I wish them well.

[@ThelouwseFD]

"All these people are so happy, it's awful" i'm losing it

[@savannahmadden4958]

They need to separate 100% they will never recover

[@chuchitaperaltagenius9803]

My twins brother are very independent and honestly I’m happy after see this and glad that they have their own life ,and at the seam time be such a great brothers with each other

[@PaulaOpole]

They are great now! Separate lives and happy lives ❤ im following both for several years. Such a creative and inspiring artists!

[@CrankyCanine]

Where do you follow them?

[@Satan.Himself]

@@CrankyCanine I’ve seen a couple of comments saying that they have Instagram

[@PaulaOpole]

​@@CrankyCanine just Google L.A. Raeven

[@lepoussinvengeur]

They are making each other miserable, it is so sad to see such a potentially beautiful relationship become so toxic...

[@marcellemccalla6325]

This is so heartbreaking. The twins i know, both identical and fraternal in general have such loving relationships. Although there are fights sometimes especially when boundaries get crossed, none of them would change the unique bond they have. It hurts that a relationship that should be uplifting has become toxic and suffocating for them both.

[@alisinger007]

What a waste of two beautiful sisters. Instead of being each other's cheer leader they seem to be very hostile, it's a very unhealthy relationship. I really hope that anyone suffering from mental health will seek help. Where there is life there is hope.

[@dombey-fd6zr]

Wow. The rare video I can honestly say I wish I hadn't watched. Exhausting to even witness the creepy food rituals and the unrelenting misery. Hope they get help.

[@honeybunch5765]

I've watched a documentary on them before and the, nee nee nee is exasperating!

[@Unit68]

I'm 27 minutes in, so not sure if my suspicions are about to be proven correct - but the boyfriend was not real, was he? Everything about him screams scammer.

[@jayterra2060]

Agreed, there’s no way he was real. Scammers story to the T.

[@12moodyblues]

I had to stop watching this video after 10 minutes, I can't believe how pathetic these two girls are. How dare they degrade how other twins act or dress when they themselves act this way, they should be ashamed 😤 of themselves.

[@SuzyQ334]

Yep, me too. It's Friday in Sydney, Oz, my favourite day of the week and their bratty behaviour is making me feel annoyed and depressed! Not how I like to start my weekend. Click.

[@gabrielleandrew542]

They are quite pathetic and horrible

[@yamnjam]

Same, it's just too messed up for me to keep watching. They need to be forcibly separated and treated or they'll never get better. Definitely some sick and bratty behavior going on.

[@meomy29]

The pathology is so very sad.

[@vdp1626]

Ah yes, how dare they have mental issues! Perhaps you should stop being so judgmental of others, particularly those that don't fit into your tiny perfect world view. You're welcome.