How Ant-Man Lost Himself.

[@CHILL_Z0N3]

EMH is superior when writing all the characters, especially Hank Pym, they handled him very well & established his character way better than in the comics doing him justice.

[@Ali_Imran_Khan]

True, but What I hated was they only gave him 2 episodes in season 2

[@CHILL_Z0N3]

@@Ali_Imran_Khan EXACTLY, like what a wasted potential...But tbf they had to wrap up the show especially with certain plotlines such as the Skrull Invasion, since the show was going to get cancelled stupidly.

[@Handles_be_dumb]

I hate when people lump "the comics" all together. It'd be like lumping together "the animated cartoons", despite being completely different interpretations of the characters. Yes, some comic REALLY hate Hank Pym (Ultimates, I'm looking at you). But some do him justice.

[@CHILL_Z0N3]

@@Handles_be_dumb Yeah tbh it's just lazy & unoriginal

[@DavidMartinez-ce3lp]

​@Handles_be_dumb Yeah, but those are more specific moments, not entire comic stories. And no matter what they seem to keep defining Hank by his mistakes. Would've been interesting to comment on the fact that Avengers just abandoned him and never gave him the proper mental health help he needed.

[@crosshair9907]

While I think Hank becoming YellowJacket was great in the show, I just wish the reveal that he's alive was saved for another episode. It would've been way more impactful.

[@milkiassamuel780]

Hank was definitely one of the best written characters and they did a fantastic job depicting him without the more "problematic" aspects of his character as he clearly a pacifist and noble scientist who wants to make the world better without violence but loses that hope after creating Ultron and seeing how little things have changed and how he caused more chaos than he should've fixed. Thats why Hanks downfall as Yellow Jacket feels rather understandable from a mental perspective as he metaphorically kills himself so Yellow Jacket can be born and enact rhe justice Hank couldn't, but even then Hank's subconscious still keeps the villains he hunted down alive showing that though hes changed mentally he still finds balance and contempt on who he is.

[@paulcarter9652]

Fun fact: the most famous pacifists in history have been “problematic” in the same way. Einstein, John Lennon, Bob Marley, Ghandi… you name him, he was “problematic”. Psychology has actually studied this (but that’s a story for another day), so it makes sense they decided to write Hank this way

[@craig2196]

Hank Pym is a prime example of how one single panel, in a single page, 8n a single book. Can determine a legacy.

[@lazyliongames6660]

The backhand that killed a character

[@tron-a-con3700]

Scott "I don't...I'm not Ant Man" Hank "You are now" That makes me think that Hank knows part of his pacifist nature isn't suited to be a hero but he sees Scott as a better person for the mantle and lets him have the suit, truly I love this cartoon. It has its issues but its the best Avengers Cartoon I've ever seen

[@supsup335]

The scott lang episode shows how much of a badass hank can be when pushed but is still of sound mind: you have luke cage and iron fist there, two guys with powers. And then hank in a lab coat. That is a very high level of confidence.

[@alexandrefrauches132]

My only complain with Hank's transformation into Yellow Jacket is the Avengers never acknowloging that they were play a part in Hank's mental breakdown. They were the ones who critize Hank for being a pacifist and trying to find no-violent solutions. He becoming this vigilante should be the moment they realize their mistake, learning a harsh lesson to be careful in trying to change people to fit their image, otherwise they can end up turning that person into something complety unreconizable. By the end of the episode they should apologize to Hank for the way they treated him through the show, understing now that, much like Hank need to be willing to fight to protect Janet and his friends, they should learn to use their head and come up with less violent solutions to solve the problems.

[@DavidMartinez-ce3lp]

I think Tony mentioned it once. That they never accepted him for who he was. But yeah aside from that they really didn't acknowledge their part. Perhaps if they didn't have to cancel the show, they would've explored this more.

[@michaelmurray8134]

Honestly, Hank should have came back to the team on the condition of being tech support, only going on the field as Yellow Jacket if necessary. This way, he can be part of the team and not feel like he's forcing himself to be part of the violence. I can see the Avengers accepting this.

[@DavidMartinez-ce3lp]

@@michaelmurray8134 yeah, I agree. Tech support/research is a good fit for him.

[@comicbookreviewer4856]

To me Hank brought it more on himself than he realize As he try to force things onto people without putting himself in their shoes also Fail to see Most of the villains are to far gone to see reason and the fact Tony only said it most likely out of guilt despite not admitting Hank was the reason for his own downfall

[@JDog2656]

They never forced him to change and they never forced him to leave. Plus when he did, they never pressed him to come back and they gave him space. Janet definitely pressed, but that’s cause she cares for him more inteimently. Did they criticize a bit, sure, but it’s not like they do it any more than they criticize each other. It’s not like he couldn’t have found alternative means to assist without fighting, but if he’s gonna get his undies in a bunch every time a villain has to be apprehended violently, that’s his hang up.

[@gaidencastro9706]

It's really sad to see that Hank's arc will remain incomplete.

[@W-West5555]

The story of Hank Pym in this show is a tragedy he fell from his beliefs and melded himself into his antithesis because that’s what he thought people wanted from him

[@EnderMaster707]

*pym

[@W-West5555]

@@EnderMaster707 thank you I hate auto correct

[@mandalorianhunter1]

I'm glad they showed the decline of his mental health and sense of self this way than what happened in the comics. It's sad how Hank is seen and still seen as a woman hitter after the artist mis read what the writer wanted but Joker can slap Harley anytime he wants and still gets loved. I'm glad they him passing on the Ant-Man mantle to Scott Lang well.

[@dennisbeaman958]

And on top of that it was a one time thing and he immediately snapped out of it and apologized repeatedly while reed has degraded beaten his wife multiple times and still isn't a wife beater even when she turned evil she got cut off by reed saying shut up the men are talking and he said her powers are the most useless on the team

[@mandalorianhunter1]

@@dennisbeaman958 dang? Main 616 or another universe? I heard that Ultimate Reed and Hank are terrible, Reed becoming the maker

[@dennisbeaman958]

@@mandalorianhunter1 main reed was horrible aswell most reeds are to his family like him putting gamma radiated nanites in his son as a baby him doing awful things in the terrible universes every time a disease he treats it like this is a evolution and does it to his family like the complete cannibal virus and zombie situation among others if I remember correctly in the cannibal one he injects his sin and daughter with it they treat eating sue and then and sue has to kill them which obviously hurts sue because having to kill her children because of what he did

[@mandalorianhunter1]

@@dennisbeaman958 yeah Reed is awful, anytime a super genius becomes evil, they end up becoming the worst

[@dennisbeaman958]

@@mandalorianhunter1 the thing about reed though even in earth 616 he was still good not turned evil and he was a sexist in older comics at times

[@axels3188]

I think Earths mightiest heroes did a good job in Hank Pyms Downfall showing his mental Illness well the best they could and seeing him go from Antmon/ Giantman to Yellow Jacket was Cool.

[@GuyNamedGray]

My favourite Hank moment in EMH is when he shoots a hole in Galactus' ship and he just nihilistically says "What's Galactus gonna do, eat us *more* ?"

[@collegerebel]

I liked it when he put off deactivating the bomb just to stress out Abigail Brand. "I just wanted to see the look on your face."

[@michaelmurray8134]

I like how at the end Tony Acknowledges that they've been pushing Hank too much to be something they knew he wasn't. The entire time They wanted him to adapt to their way of doing things Instead of finding a compromise that he was comfortable with. Hank should have came back as tech support only coming out as Yellow Jacket if need be, which would have been the perfect compromise.

[@ihavenoideaatall7381]

The MCU missed the opportunity of exploring Hank and Janet as characters. Scott is cool, but Hank is just underrated. I wish we got a movie about hank and janet over quantumania and antman and wasp. Also that Yellowjacket suit is clean.

[@MioAngelou]

You know it's good when venxous made it

[@iiswack]

this would be a fire producer tag

[@InnuendicThoughts]

Not sure if this is a hot take or not but.....Hank Pym highkey was gaslit to insanity by his friends and girlfriend. "You can't rehabilitate villains" is a crazy notion, especially when no one was interested in trying or hearing Hank out. Personally, I don't like Janet for this reason. Hank deserved better than her and the Avengers

[@InnuendicThoughts]

I wrote this before finishing the video. After finishing it.....yeah no, Janet sucked as a girlfriend hey?😂😂😂😂 Like she's such a terrible girlfriend😂😂😂, remember when she wanted to make Hank intentionally jealous with Mar Vell?😂😂😂, I really don't like her😂😂😂, poor Hank

[@collegerebel]

She was annoying.

[@TheCookieGamer523]

The way in which he tried to rehabilitate villains was quite ridiculous. Instead of first apprehending them he tried to talk to them mid combat which didn't work and got Hawkeye hurt. He was objectively being an ideological halfwit.

[@InnuendicThoughts]

@@TheCookieGamer523 He was trying to descalate a situation. You know.....something you should do first hand before you start causing property damage?

[@TheCookieGamer523]

@@InnuendicThoughts Yes because the people who already committed the crime and caused plenty of property damage were going to be talked down.

[@jakeproven256]

Did you know that IronFists voice actor on this show also voiced Robin/Nightwing on Batman The Animated series? Yeah, he also voiced Barbecue on the original G.I.Joe cartoon.

[@DavidMartinez-ce3lp]

Cool!

[@jessetorres8738]

1 video I would like to see is you talking about the character Killer Frost.

[@MusicLover-my6fo]

I'm just glad EMH omitted the part of Hank's Yellow Jacket persona that involved domestic abuse.

[@3mrys937]

If you think about it... what happened to Hank and Ultron is so similar... Pacifists that only want to help, lear how to hurt others (ultron to fight Kang, Hank as avenger), go mad and go too far to "save earth". You CAN see that Ultron is based on Hank brainwaves.

[@Venxous]

Shhh that’s a planned video for later lol

[@michaelharris7157]

Really wish the MCU took Hank down this route instead of what we got in Antman 3. Idk about you, but if I were stuck in the Quantum Realm I’d go crazy. It would’ve been interesting to see Hank lose it and when he ultimately does get his senses back he has to sacrifice himself to save his family from Kang.

[@DavidMartinez-ce3lp]

Either or just kill him off already. He's just there. He looks so bored.

[@Japple_Junior]

I might start a flame war here but… EMH > MCU

[@CHILL_Z0N3]

Nah you're hella valid fr

[@alexursu4403]

If you mean some of the earlier MCU stuff, like Iron Man-Avengers Infinity War, then hey, those weren't awful. If you mean current MCU, that take is so hot, I'm going to die of hypothermia.

[@saviletotorres143]

Facts

[@Japple_Junior]

@@alexursu4403 I just think EMH understands most of the characters better than the MCU did, with the main exception of Iron Man.

[@christophercann1155]

I agree man

[@alex4833]

I have not seen Avengers: Earth's Mightest Heroes, but your video got me intrigued (especially about Hank Pym's arc). Cool video! Hope you have a great day.

[@Venxous]

Hope u have a great day too

[@alex4833]

@@Venxous Thanks :)

[@collegerebel]

I can't help but a laugh at the amount of stress Hank put Abigail Brand throughout their episode together.😂

[@Bigboiii]

been watching you since it feels like you started, might be late, but so happy you gotta sponsor man, keep going, right there with you

[@Venxous]

Never Late, You're right on time 💯💯💯

[@ihavenoideaatall7381]

The MCU missed the opportunity of exploring Hank and Janet as characters. Scott is cool, but Hank is just underrated. I wish we got a movie about hank and janet over quantumania and antman and wasp.

[@deathseekr1537]

I just wish we could've seen a brighter arc where he could becom giant man

[@DirtHutCaver]

Just woke up and saw this video notification! :D Great start to the day, so far!!

[@PutzShaka]

Unpopular Opinion: Pym’s story arc and character building were my favorite of the characters in this particular incarnation of the avengers

[@jamestolbert1856]

Oh my gosh. I have a crazy theory! Yellowjacket is an alternate personality that Hank himself created. The explosion caused him to believe that Hank is dead cause he can’t deal with his failures or trauma that’s building up inside him.

[@electricVGC]

Ant Man and Yellowjacket are tough. It's a painful ending, and we miss more. That said, Constrictor and Diamondback get done way worse

[@xeno8484]

I came up with the idea that to explain why Hank Pym psyche became so broken is in part the Psycho-man from the microverse. Due to Hanks experimenting with shrinking that in part the Psycho-man caused Hank’s mental breakdown in order to prevent him from becoming a threat to his dominion.

[@jamestolbert1856]

Here’s a Hank quote i made up. “Jan, look around you. My last creation nearly destroyed humanity, my pacifist ideals don’t align with the Avengers or with the villains we’ve fought, heck, half of my ants have eaten all of the Hulk cookies. I haven’t done a thing that has ONCE IMPROVED MANKIND! I’m a failure! A failure!”

[@Dankboi68]

15:06 WHAT HAPPENED TO MY BOY'S EYES?!

[@spencernaugle]

I believe Yellow Jacket never technically joined the Avengers.

[@BraydenHammer]

He may have a variet of split personality disorder I forget the name but it basically makes you lose you morals without knowing

[@jvbutalid8316]

And that is why Wasp got with Iron Man in some comics, I guess.

[@CoyotesOwn]

I really disliked Yellow Jacket. It really felt like he was included because that what happened to Pym in the comics. Honestly, I'd prefer if they skipped to the Hank Pym Science Adventurer from West Coast Avengers

[@AndreNitroX]

Hank pym in this show was so complex

[@JohnSilva-cf1xx]

To anyone who sees this comment there might be a slight chance we can save emh if everyone signs the petition by looking up avengers emh petition and try spreading the word because I just want the show to come back

[@DavidMartinez-ce3lp]

With Disney's recent track record of Marvel content, I don't trust them with this show. Perhaps a comic book continuation written by the creator Chris Yost would be better. He already showed he can write with the EMH comic tie ins. Not only this but there would less hoops to jump through with rights issues or animation issues.

[@dubba1869]

My dawg 🥺🥺🥺😭😭😭

[@StareachValcin]

If I'm being honest, I felt bad for Hank Pym in this series. He joined the Avengers because he wanted to help people, including the villains, but he had to continuously go against his scientific and pacifistic beliefs over and over again. Between making his creation, Ultron, a weapon against Kang, the conqueror, and being reprimanded for his pacifism by the Avengers, including Janet, it just made sense for him to quit. Janet really didn't help because she just wanted Hank to stay on the team for her own sake rather than considering what was best for him. It also didn't help that Ultron, Hank's own creation, almost destroyed the world. Despite helping to save Janet and the 9 realms, Hank was just in a bad place at the end of season 1 and during season 2. Janet simply wasn't helping and just made things worse. I honestly wish that Hank just ended his arc with having Scott Lang replace him as Ant-Man because his transition into becoming Yellowjacket just showed how messed up he became. Hank went against everything he believed and can be considered mentally unstable. He also shouldn't have returned to the team in his unstable state. Plus, Janet wanting Hank back on the team despite his terrible state of mind further shows how she only wants what is best for her rather than what's best for him.

[@JTheBeastMcneil]

Yo Pym, where do I send our bill?!!!

[@RanjoBanjo-d7q]

nice video 👍

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[@negadoge]

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[@Theliving_Tv]

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