How Are LGBT People Saved? - Bob Wilkin

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Grace Evangelical Society

Жыл бұрын

What do LGBT people need to do in order to be saved? In this video Bob Wilkin answers the question, "How Are LGBT People Born Again?", and whether there are any different requirements from any other person
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@frankteichroeb7442
@frankteichroeb7442 Жыл бұрын
Thank you brother for this message. It's so hard to find people these days who teach/preach the true gospel of Jesus without adding a bunch of works to it. The gospel message should bring with it a joy and peace and assurance in knowing Christ has brought us eternal life, not the condemnation and questioning that legalism brings.
@apollontheintp3257
@apollontheintp3257 Жыл бұрын
Your faith is dead without works (James says that) and do it won't help you. Even demons believe in Christ.
@manuelester7420
@manuelester7420 Жыл бұрын
Salvation produces good works, not the other way around. Therefore, a changed life proves one is born again. No change, means your faith is dead and cannot save you. That's all in the bible. Doing good works dont save you, they just show that you're saved. A saved person doesn't credit his salvation to his good deeds. A saved person can't help but do good deeds. Because children of God, do good deeds and bare good fruit. They can't help it. Satan's kids can't help living in a constant sinful lifestyle and think nothing's wrong with them. Same with people who think they're saved but aren't. They think that their constant sin and growing sinful patterns doesn't prove that they're really children of the devil, when they are. Thats So sad.🥺
@manuelester7420
@manuelester7420 Жыл бұрын
@@apollontheintp3257 Salvation produces good works, not the other way around. Therefore, a changed life proves one is born again. No change, means your faith is dead and cannot save you. That's all in the bible. Doing good works dont save you, they just show that you're saved. A saved person doesn't credit his salvation to his good deeds. A saved person can't help but do good deeds. Because children of God, do good deeds and bare good fruit. They can't help it. Satan's kids can't help living in a constant sinful lifestyle and think nothing's wrong with them. Same with people who think they're saved but aren't. They think that their constant sin and growing sinful patterns doesn't prove that they're really children of the devil. So sad.
@manuelester7420
@manuelester7420 Жыл бұрын
@Alvin Fen come as little children but leave born again and made new. The works follow true faith. No works means no faith. Doing work s don't save you. They prove you believe and are saved. Now if you think that your works save you, you're not saved. You're deceived. All of you who have something against works, y'all are deceived. Because saved people produce good works that God ordained for them to do, before he ever created earth. Salvation produces good works, not the other way around. Therefore, a changed life proves one is born again. No change, means your faith is dead and cannot save you. That's all in the bible. Doing good works dont save you, they just show that you're saved. A saved person doesn't credit his salvation to his good deeds. A saved person can't help but do good deeds. Because children of God, do good deeds and bare good fruit. They can't help it. Satan's kids can't help living in a constant sinful lifestyle and think nothing's wrong with them. Same with people who think they're saved but aren't. They think that their constant sin and growing sinful patterns doesn't prove that they're really children of the devil. So sad.
@apollontheintp3257
@apollontheintp3257 Жыл бұрын
@Alvin Fen I know all of this and I do believe every word in John. But I sometimes wonder if Protestants read a different bible?! But Jesus himself asks you for works and says, else you are not saved. Various times.
@catherinegray1367
@catherinegray1367 Жыл бұрын
I stopped following someone who said there's no such thing as a "gay Christian." I pray for all to turn to the atoning blood of Jesus Christ for salvation.
@user-vy3qh1xw2t
@user-vy3qh1xw2t 3 ай бұрын
But they don't continue in there lifestyle repent and go and sin no more
@joev2223
@joev2223 3 ай бұрын
There is no such thing as a gay Christian. He's saying repent and believe the gospel, and the rest is a matter of Christian maturity. Practising homosexuality is so blatantly a sin that as a regenerate person, you will turn from it, as you will all other sins. Knowingly and lifelong continuance in sin is incompatible with the regenerate heart.
@user-vy3qh1xw2t
@user-vy3qh1xw2t 3 ай бұрын
@@joev2223 just like all sexal immorality redefining marige dosnt make it ok
@waholoopesorry74
@waholoopesorry74 3 ай бұрын
@@joev2223 Very well said! I'm glad someone gets it. It really is so clear in the Bible. Just look at Jeremiah 31 and Ezekiel 36. We are given completely new hearts and will follow God's commands and statutes because of our regeneration. If you want to keep practicing sin then that is evidence that one has not been born again
@joev2223
@joev2223 3 ай бұрын
@@user-vy3qh1xw2t I think I agree. I assume you mean that marriage is narrowly defined as a man and a woman.
@wtom04
@wtom04 Жыл бұрын
The problem today is that many false teachers from the Calvinist/Lordship Salvation camp will falsely teach that LGBT people cannot be saved based upon a faulty understanding and eisegesis of 1 Corinthians 6:9-11. 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 - 9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God. However, the above text says "WILL NOT INHERIT THE KINGDOM OF GOD". There is a difference between "inheriting the kingdom" versus "ENTERING THE KINGDOM". Entering the kingdom of God is FREE as eternal life is a free gift that is not of our works - Ephesians 2:8-9, Romans 3:20, Romans 3:28, Romans 4:2-6, Romans 9:31-32, Romans 10:4, Romans 11:6, Galatians 2:16, Galatians 2:21, Galatians 3:6, Galatians 5:4, Titus 3:5, Genesis 15:6. INHERITING THE KINGDOM has to do with ETERNAL REWARDS and REIGNING WITH CHRIST which are EARNED privileges based on our performance here in this earthly life - 1 Corinthians 3:10-15, Matthew 25:14-30, Luke 19:11-27, Revelation 2:26, Revelation 3:21, 2 Timothy 2:12-13. If saved believers including people from the LGBT community fail to abide, endure, and persevere in their faith, then they will NOT INHERIT THE KINGDOM OF GOD in the form of eternal rewards and the privilege of reigning with Christ, BUT THEY ARE STILL SAVED AND WILL BE GOING TO HEAVEN. 1) FAITHFUL CHRISTIANS in this life that lived obediently, and faithfully and did things that have eternal value will be granted with eternal rewards, and for some, the earned privilege of reigning with Christ in the Millennium is granted - 2 Timothy 2:12, Revelation 3:21, and Revelation 2:26. Their lives will be tested with fire (Christ's fiery scrutiny) and WILL PASS THE TEST and be granted eternal rewards and some will reign with Christ. 2) UNFAITHFUL CHRISTIANS in this life that lived disobediently, and carnally will have their works tested with the fire of Christ's scrutiny at the Judgment Seat of Christ. Their lives, that is, their works had no eternal value and WILL FAIL THE TEST and be denied eternal rewards, BUT are still saved because eternal life is a free gift apart from works - Ephesians 2:8-9, Romans 3:20, Romans 3:28, Romans 4:2-6, Romans 9:32, Romans 11:6, Galatians 2:16, Galatians 2:21, Gal ch. 3, Galatians 5:4, Titus 3:5. If we Christians deny Christ in this life by living unfaithfully, disobediently, or carnally in this life, then Christ will DENY us ETERNAL REWARDS (latter half of 2 Timothy 2:12), but our eternal salvation remains intact and untouched as 2 Timothy 2:13 clearly states. 2 John 1:8 - Watch out that you do not LOSE what we have WORKED FOR, but that you may be REWARDED FULLY. God sometimes punishes unfaithful Christians who are saved with SICKNESS and premature PHYSICAL DEATH who are living in willful sin which is in essence defiling themselves - 1 Corinthians 3:17, 1 John 5:16-17, but they are still saved. The Christians in the Corinthian church who were eating selfishly and getting drunk at the Lord's Supper are a classic example - 1 Corinthians 11:20-22, 1 Corinthians 11:29-30. Eternal life is FREE, BUT inheriting the kingdom/eternal rewards/reigning with Christ are EARNED. There is a big difference. This is what 1 Corinthians 3:10-15 is talking about which takes place at the future Judgment Seat of Christ (Bema Seat) 2 Corinthians 5:10. 10 By the grace God has given me, I laid a foundation as a wise builder, and someone else is building on it. But each one should build with care. 11 For no one can lay any foundation other than the one already laid, which is Jesus Christ. 12 If anyone builds on this foundation using gold, silver, costly stones, wood, hay or straw, 13 their work will be shown for what it is, because the Day will bring it to light. It will be revealed with fire, and the fire will test the quality of each person’s work. 14 If what has been built survives, the builder will receive a reward. 15 If it is burned up, the builder WILL SUFFER LOSS, but YET WILL BE SAVED-even though only as one escaping through the flames. The "gold", "silver", and "costly stones" represents faithful Christian's works in this life that had eternal value and will STAND UP to the fire used to test it, but the "wood", "hay", and "straw" represents unfaithful Christian's works in this life that had no eternal value, but will BURN UP in the fire used to test it. The "gold, "silver", and "costly stones" symbolize a life of obedience, commitment, perseverance, faithfulness, endurance under trial, etc. but the "wood", "hay", and "straw" symbolizes a life of unfaithfulness, disobedience, carnality, laziness, etc. Again, the "burned up" and "flames" in verse 15 is not referring to the flames of hell, but is referring to the works of the carnal, unfaithful, and disobedient Christians in this life that had no eternal value that is BURNED UP when tested with Christ's fiery scrutiny. Their eternal salvation remains intact and untouched, for eternal life is a free gift apart from works - Ephesians 2:8-9, Romans 3:20, Romans 3:28, Romans 4:2-6, Romans 6:23, Galatians 2:16, Galatians 2:21. 2 Timothy 2:12-13 - 12 If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we deny him, he also will deny us: 13 If we believe not, YET HE ABIDETH FAITHFUL: he cannot deny himself. If saved Christians, including those in the LGBT community fail to endure/suffer/persevere under trial, etc, in this life, but live carnally, disobediently, and unfaithfully, then Christ will deny them eternal rewards/reigning with Christ at the future Bema Judgment Seat of Christ - 2 Corinthians 5:10, 1 Corinthians 3:10-15, BUT THEY ARE STILL SAVED - 1 Corinthians 3:14-15. In conclusion, UNFAITHFUL Christians in this life who lived disobediently and carnally will experience chastisement in this life from God including SICKNESS and premature PHYSICAL DEATH for some - 1 John 5:16-17, Proverbs 15:10, Hebrews 12:5-11, Jeremiah 2:19, 1 Corinthians 11:29-30, Acts 5:1-10, and experience SHAME (1 John 2:28) and a forfeiture of ETERNAL REWARDS at the Judgment Seat of Christ, but loss of eternal life is NEVER one of the consequences - 1 Corinthians 3:15, 2 Timothy 2:13.
@irataylor5083
@irataylor5083 Жыл бұрын
I'm afraid you are mistaken dear friend. Those unfaithful, disobedient, carnal "christians don't belong to Christ and will sadly hear those words our Lord Jesus warned about in Matthew 7: 21-23. "Not everyone who says to me Lord, Lord, will ENTER THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN, but only the one who DOES the will of My Father in heaven. On that day many will say to me Lord, Lord, didn't we prophesy in your name, drive out demons in your name, and do many miracles in your name? Then I will announce to them, I Never knew you. DEPART FROM ME YOU WORKERS OF INIQUITY." Those who practice a lifestyle of sin and refuse to repent will neither inherit nor enter the kingdom of God. "Little children, let no one deceive you. He who practices righteousness is righteous, just as He is righteous." "He who sins is of the devil, for the devil has sinned from the beginning. For this reason the Son of God was manifested, that He might destroy the work of the devil. Whoever has been born of God does not sin ,(does not live a life of willful sin) for His seed abides in him; and he cannot sin ( practice intentional sin ) because he has been born of God." "In this the children of God and the children of the devil are manifest: Whoever does not PRACTICE RIGHTEOUSNESS IS NOT OF GOD, NOR IS HE WHO DOES NOT LOVE HIS BROTHER." 1st John 3:7-10.
@wtom04
@wtom04 Жыл бұрын
@@irataylor5083 Unfaithful, disobedient, and carnal Christians that are saved still belong to Christ because CHRIST IS AN UNFAILING SAVIOR who does not go back on His promises in His Word in spite of our many failures, shortcomings, and screw ups in this life - John 10:28-29, 1 Corinthians 3:10-15. Our salvation and eternal security in Christ is not dependent upon our performance in this life as all our righteousness are FILTHY RAGS in God's sight. You have taken Matthew 7:21-23 out of context and misapplying it. The WILL OF THE FATHER is NOT obedience, commitment, perseverance, faithfulness, practicing righteousness, etc, but the WILL OF THE FATHER is John 6:40 and John 6:28-29. John 6:40 - And this is THE WILL OF HIM that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and BELIEVETH ON HIM, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day. John 6:28-29 - 28 Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God? 29 Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, THAT YE BELIEVE ON HIM WHOM HE HATH SENT.
@wtom04
@wtom04 Жыл бұрын
@@irataylor5083 Jesus REJECTS the very type of people in Luke 18:9-14 accurately described in Matthew 7:21-23. Luke 18:9-14 -9 And he spake this parable unto certain WHICH TRUSTED IN THEMSELVES THAT THEY WERE RIGHTEOUS, and DESPISED OTHERS: 10 Two men went up into the temple to pray; the one a Pharisee, and the other a publican. 11 The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, GOD I THANK THEE, THAT I AM NOT AS OTHER MEN ARE, EXTORTIONERS, UNJUST, ADULTERERS, OR EVEN AS THIS PUBLICAN. 12 I FAST TWICE IN THE WEEK, I GIVE TITHES OF ALL THAT I POSSESS. 13 And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner. 14 I tell you, THIS MAN WENT DOWN TO HIS HOUSE JUSTIFIED rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Matthew 7:21-23 - 21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name DONE MANY WONDERFUL WORKS? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
@wtom04
@wtom04 Жыл бұрын
@@irataylor5083 Is this your understanding of salvation? "Hey, Lord Lord, please let me into heaven!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" Look Lord, I've repented of all my sins and have stopped sinning!!!!!!!! "Hey, Lord Lord, I've done all the below things IN YOUR NAME!!!!! "I don't smoke" "I don't drink" "I don't do drugs" "I don't masturbate" "I don't fornicate" "I don't adulterate" "I don't ever lust" "I don't ever look at porno" "I don't ever have wet dreams" "I don't get erections" "I've castrated myself" "I have been wearing a chastity belt all my life" "I don't get jealous or envious" "I am not greedy and always share with others" "I don't have sexual thoughts in my mind when I see an attractive person of the opposite sex" "I don't ever cuss or say 4 to 7 letter profanity words when I get angry" "I don't cheat on my taxes" "I help little old ladies across the street" "I don't ever lie" "I don't murder" "I never joined a gang" "I don't have evil thoughts in my mind when people rudely cut me off on the freeway at high speed" "I am not racist" "I don't have animosity in my heart when other people talk loudly and obnoxiously in a foreign language in front of me" "I give a tenth of my earnings to my local church" "I don't get angry or want to get even when my boss docks me 1 hour pay for being late 10 minutes because someone was blocking my driveway" "I love all my neighbors as myself even though they are very selfish and obnoxious jerks and troublemakers" "I don't get upset when people play LOUD MUSIC that disrupts my sleep" "Now, Lord pleeeease let me into heaven, Oh, pleeeeease!!!!!!!!!!!" If the above represents your understanding of salvation, then you will be REJECTED by Christ at the Great White Throne Judgment as described in Matthew 7:23 because you DID NOT DO THE WILL OF THE FATHER IN JOHN 6:40 AND JOHN 6:28-29, BUT INSTEAD RELIED UPON YOUR OWN WORKS OF RIGHTEOUSNESS. Matthew 7:22-23 - 22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied IN THY NAME? and IN THY NAME have cast out devils? and IN THY NAME done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: DEPART FROM ME, YE THAT WORKETH INIQUITY. Many people who are deeply entrenched in Lordship Salvation which is works salvation will always feel jealous and a sense of unfairness and despise those who believe in Free Grace/once saved always saved and feel that only those who commit, obey, persevere, and are faithful unceasingly deserve heaven more than others because of their works/ performance on this earth, but this is what Christ had to say : Luke 18:9-14 - 9 And he spake this parable unto certain WHICH TRUSTED IN THEMSELVES THAT THEY WERE RIGHTEOUS, and DESPISED OTHERS: 10 Two men went up into the temple to pray; the one a Pharisee, and the other a publican. 11 The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, THAT I AM NOT AS OTHER MEN ARE, EXTORTIONERS, UNJUST, ADULTERERS, OR EVEN AS THIS PUBLICAN. 12 I FAST TWICE IN THE WEEK, I GIVE TITHES OF ALL THAT I POSSESS. 13 And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner. 14 I tell you, THIS MAN WENT DOWN TO HIS HOUSE JUSTIFIED rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.
@wtom04
@wtom04 Жыл бұрын
@@irataylor5083 Saved Christians who are unfaithful, disobedient, and carnal will experience a LOSS of ETERNAL REWARDS when their earthly lives will be evaluated at the Bema Judgment Seat of Christ that is reserved exclusively for SAVED people - 2 Corinthians 5:10, 1 Corinthians 3:10-15, but they are STILL SAVED. They could have been granted ETERNAL REWARDS by Christ had they lived faithfully, obediently and spiritually in this life, but their failure to do so will result in loss, but they are still saved. 1 Corinthians 3:14-15 - 14 If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, HE SHALL RECEIVE A REWARD. 15 If any man's work shall be burned, HE SHALL SUFFER LOSS: BUT HE HIMSELF SHALL BE SAVED; yet so as by fire.
@bloodboughtbigphilr8266
@bloodboughtbigphilr8266 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant Bob. The message all LGBT and non-LGBT people need to hear.
@earlethecanadian5470
@earlethecanadian5470 Жыл бұрын
False gospel! Calling repentance "man-made religion", to repent of sin, and see it as sin, and turn to God and be willing to obey Him. That's biblical. Just look it up and ask God to show you. Eternally secure, while "practicing these sins? 1 cor. 6 9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God. People must repent of their sins and follow Jesus. Repentance of sins is biblical, in the new testament, too: Revelation 9:21 neither repented they of their murders, nor of their sorceries, nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts. ASV and they repented not of their murders, nor of their sorceries, nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts. ANd : 2 Timothy 2:19-21 King James Version 19 Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity. 20 But in a great house there are not only vessels of gold and of silver, but also of wood and of earth; and some to honour, and some to dishonour. 21 If a man therefore purge himself from these, he shall be a vessel unto honour, sanctified, and meet for the master's use, and prepared unto every good work. Do you need to see more? Repent for the Kingdom of GOd is at hand! Those who don't pick up their cross and follow Me, won't inherit the kingdom of God. We must be followers of JEsus, not just professors. Many will say, "Lord, Lord, didn't I cast out demons and do miracles "in Your name'", and Jesus will say, "depart from me, you who 'work iniquitiy', I never knew you". Why do you call me "Lord", yet don't do what I tell you? ... He who hears my sayings and does them, he is the wise builder who builds his house on the ROCK. Be wise.
@manuelester7420
@manuelester7420 Жыл бұрын
If a gay person say they believe in Jesus, but don't change afterwards, they're deceived and not saved. Saved people change. Paul didn't keep killing Christians. Peter said that the disciples have left everything to follow Jesus. Why would we need to COUNT THE COST, IF THERE'S NO CHANGE INVOLVED? FOLLOWING JESUS REQUIRES LEAVING OUR WANTS AND OUR DESIRES. HIS WILL BE DONE.
@axxel9626
@axxel9626 2 ай бұрын
​@@manuelester7420 salvation is a free gift. If you keep on sinning, you will experience God's wrath, but salvation cannot be lost cause we never earned it
@2Chronicles714_
@2Chronicles714_ 5 күн бұрын
​@@axxel9626 His wrath is called separation in hell. I never knew you depart from me ye worker of iniquity/ lawlessness. That's continuous unrepentant sin.
@axxel9626
@axxel9626 5 күн бұрын
@@2Chronicles714_ oh no not again. That verse says that those who not do the will of the Father will burn forever. What is then the will of the Father? It is John 6:40. Amen 🙏 Only Jesus can save you, not yourself
@Good_News_Joe
@Good_News_Joe Жыл бұрын
Amen Dr Wilkin. This is Joe. That was excellent! God bless!!
@earlethecanadian5470
@earlethecanadian5470 Жыл бұрын
This is a false gospel that this man is preaching! He actually said in this video that repentance and following Christ in commitment (although, no promise needed) was "man-made religion". But, to repent of sin, and see it as sin, and turn to God and be willing to obey Him counting on the blood of Jesus to forgive us it totally and absolutely biblical. Just look it up and ask God to show you. Eternally secure, while "practicing these sins? 1 cor. 6 9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God. People must repent of their sins and follow Jesus. Repentance of sins is biblical, in the new testament, too: Revelation 9:21 neither repented they of their murders, nor of their sorceries, nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts. ASV and they repented not of their murders, nor of their sorceries, nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts. ANd : 2 Timothy 2:19-21 King James Version 19 Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity. 20 But in a great house there are not only vessels of gold and of silver, but also of wood and of earth; and some to honour, and some to dishonour. 21 If a man therefore purge himself from these, he shall be a vessel unto honour, sanctified, and meet for the master's use, and prepared unto every good work. Do you need to see more? Repent for the Kingdom of GOd is at hand! Those who don't pick up their cross and follow Me, won't inherit the kingdom of God. We must be followers of JEsus, not just professors. Many will say, "Lord, Lord, didn't I cast out demons and do miracles "in Your name'", and Jesus will say, "depart from me, you who 'work iniquitiy', I never knew you". Why do you call me "Lord", yet don't do what I tell you? ... He who hears my sayings and does them, he is the wise builder who builds his house on the ROCK. Be wise.
@user-wg2ys9bb8f
@user-wg2ys9bb8f 11 күн бұрын
when i saw the question in the title i said the same way anyone is saved great video
@philipmurray9796
@philipmurray9796 Жыл бұрын
"Such were some of you." Your identity cannot be in a sin. The sin is past, not a lifestyle.
@larryhoward-pl1pe
@larryhoward-pl1pe 4 ай бұрын
ok but lets not jump to conclusions because We all still live in a fallen creation, in a sinful body of flesh. you will never stop sinning until you are dead my friend but we should if we can help it ofc. read 1.cor 5:1-5 there's a man living in willful sin who was offered to Satan for his temporal judgement and destruction of the flesh but his spirit was still saved. God says even the righteous man falls 7 times and gets back up. If we say that we have no sin we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us.
@philipmurray9796
@philipmurray9796 4 ай бұрын
@@larryhoward-pl1pe hi there, my point was you don't hear people using other sins as part of how they identify themselves. No one says "hi I'm an adulterous Christian" and carries a sense of pride and identity about it. But people do use LGBTQ Christian as an identity.
@larryhoward-pl1pe
@larryhoward-pl1pe 4 ай бұрын
all we can do is show them whats right. God is the judge.@@philipmurray9796
@waholoopesorry74
@waholoopesorry74 3 ай бұрын
@@larryhoward-pl1pe You can't practice sin but you can stumble. The Bible is extremely clear on what happens to those that practice sin
@larryhoward-pl1pe
@larryhoward-pl1pe 3 ай бұрын
@@waholoopesorry74 1: Cor 5:1-5
@Dawn.overanalyzes
@Dawn.overanalyzes 10 ай бұрын
You don't get cleaned up ti come to Jesus. He cleans you AFTER you come to Him!!! Faith is trusting as a child, though you don't know everything you are doing (or might do)that is sin....yet, but that Jesus, alone, can save you...PERIOD!
@2Chronicles714_
@2Chronicles714_ 5 күн бұрын
He won't clean you up if you refuse to humble yourself acknowledge that you are a guilty sinner and change your mind about your sinfulled life turning away from sin, turning to Jesus as Lord and Savior.
@Dawn.overanalyzes
@Dawn.overanalyzes 4 күн бұрын
@@2Chronicles714_ True...why would I take a bath if I don't believe I'm dirty?!
@albertodeocampo9765
@albertodeocampo9765 Жыл бұрын
For all who believe in Jesus Christ salvation is Absolutely free, Because Jesus Christ did all the work on our behalf, His proclaim ( it is finished ) on the cross means that He made the final and full payment for the penalty for our sins. It also means we cannot add anything to what Jesus accomplished. We cannot do anything to earn our salvation or to keep our salvation.. God bless you Dr. Bob
@brothersamuelrogers8138
@brothersamuelrogers8138 Жыл бұрын
In John 17 Jesus said he finished the work the father gave him, BEFORE he went to the cross, what does that mean? “I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do.” ‭‭John‬ ‭17‬:‭4‬ ‭KJV‬‬
@brothersamuelrogers8138
@brothersamuelrogers8138 Жыл бұрын
@Alvin Fen yes every last one of them
@brothersamuelrogers8138
@brothersamuelrogers8138 Жыл бұрын
@Alvin Fen I asked the question because saying “finished work of the cross” is not in the Bible anywhere.
@manuelester7420
@manuelester7420 Жыл бұрын
Salvation produces good works, not the other way around. Therefore, a changed life proves one is born again. No change, means your faith is dead and cannot save you. That's all in the bible. Doing good works dont save you, they just show that you're saved. A saved person doesn't credit his salvation to his good deeds. A saved person can't help but do good deeds. Because children of God, do good deeds and bare good fruit. They can't help it. Satan's kids can't help living in a constant sinful lifestyle and think nothing's wrong with them. Same with people who think they're saved but aren't. They think that their constant sin and growing sinful patterns doesn't prove that they're really children of the devil. So sad.
@manuelester7420
@manuelester7420 Жыл бұрын
@Alvin Fen if you say you know God, but live a sinful carefree lifestyle and think you're saved, you lie and the truth is not in you. Salvation produces good works, not the other way around. Therefore, a changed life proves one is born again. No change, means your faith is dead and cannot save you. That's all in the bible. Doing good works dont save you, they just show that you're saved. A saved person doesn't credit his salvation to his good deeds. A saved person can't help but do good deeds. Because children of God, do good deeds and bare good fruit. They can't help it. Satan's kids can't help living in a constant sinful lifestyle and think nothing's wrong with them. Same with people who think they're saved but aren't. They think that their constant sin and growing sinful patterns doesn't prove that they're really children of the devil. So sad.
@ChimaEnwere
@ChimaEnwere Жыл бұрын
AMEN! 1 Corinthians 15:1-4
@2Chronicles714_
@2Chronicles714_ Жыл бұрын
1 Corinthians 15:2 By this gospel you are saved, IF YOU HOLD FIRMLY TO THE WORD I PREACHED TO YOU. Otherwise, you have believed in vain. What was the command of God that Paul preached? Acts 17:30 In the past God overlooked such ignorance, but now he commands all people everywhere to repent. Acts 20:21 I have declared to both Jews and Greeks that they must turn to God in repentance and have faith (believe) in our Lord Jesus. Acts 22:16 And now what are you waiting for? Get up, be baptized and wash your sins away, calling on his name. Baptism follows repentance. Acts 26:20 First to those in Damascus, then to those in Jerusalem and in all Judea, and then to the Gentiles, I preached that they should repent and turn to God and demonstrate their repentance by their deeds. Read Paul's dire warning about those who reject repenting of sin. Romans 2:4-8 Or do you show contempt for the riches of his kindness, forbearance and patience, not realizing that God’s kindness is intended to lead you to repentance? 5 But because of your stubbornness and your unrepentant heart you are storing up wrath against yourself for the day of God’s wrath, when his righteous judgment will be revealed. 6God “will repay each person according to what they have done.” a 7To those who by persistence in doing good seek glory, honor and immortality, he will give eternal life. 8But for those who are self-seeking and who reject the truth and follow evil, there will be wrath and anger.
@shinybrightknight
@shinybrightknight Жыл бұрын
you are 100% correct my friend
@craigs4530
@craigs4530 Жыл бұрын
Amen Bob, good solid truth! 👍
@Jesussaves1993
@Jesussaves1993 Жыл бұрын
Where does conversion come into this? Can LGBT say "Thanks for saving me, but I'm going to carry on as I have been, I have *pride* in my lifestyle and I will not change because I don't want to" I can understand how someone would battle with sin, but I find it hard to believe that someone who is born again would still willingly, pridefully want to disobey God's ways even though they've been enlightened and equipped by the Holy Spirit to make war against sin. Romans 6 1¶What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? 2God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein? 3Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death? 4Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
@wtom04
@wtom04 Жыл бұрын
+aaron mobberly Your comment - "Can LGBT say "Thanks for saving me, but I'm going to carry on as I have been, I have pride in my lifestyle and I will not change because I don't want to" I can understand how someone would battle with sin, but I find it hard to believe that someone who is born again would still willingly, pridefully want to disobey God's ways even though they've been enlightened and equipped by the Holy Spirit to make war against sin." ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- My comment - The following Biblical example is worth considering. Samson is a true man of God and at the same time a FORNICATOR - Judges 16:1 who led Israel for 20 years - Judges 16:31. The Bible is clear that he saw a prostitute and spent the night with her and what is described in Mark 7:20-23 and Galatians 5:19 was in Samson's heart at that very moment. God departed him in regards to fellowship because of his fornication with a prostitute and then he later foolishly revealed the secret of his incredible strength to Delilah whom he fell in love with (Judges 16:17) As a painful consequence of his giving away his secret, Samson was captured by the Philistines and had both his eyes gouged out - Judges 16:17-21, and the Philistines also degraded and ridiculed Samson publicly - Judges 16:25. Samson may have loved Delilah, but it was obvious that Delilah did not love him as she revealed the secret of Samson's great strength to the Philistines. Samson's last prayer just before his simultaneous murder/suicide was NOT a prayer of repentance, but was a request to God to strengthen him so that he could get REVENGE on the Philistines for the loss of his 2 eyes. Then in Judges 16:28-30, Samson commits a simultaneous MURDER/SUICIDE.Yet Samson is listed as a Godly man of faith in Hebrews 11:32. Samson would not be listed there if he was unsaved. Samson is a true man of God who is saved as indicated in Judges 13:7, and Judges 13:24. Samson lost his fellowship with God, lost his strength, lost his 2 eyes, and then lost his physical life as a result of his fornicating with a prostitute and revealing his secret to Delilah which resulted in his capture by the Philistines, but Samson did not lose his salvation in God. People in the Old Testament were saved the exact same way as people in New Testament times, otherwise the apostle Paul would not have quoted Genesis 15:6 in Romans 4:2-6, and Galatians 3:5-8 in support of SALVATION BY FAITH ALONE IN CHRIST ALONE APART FROM OUR WORKS.
@Jesussaves1993
@Jesussaves1993 Жыл бұрын
@@wtom04 I will consider what you said here and the example used. I'm am trying to navigate around free grace theology, but there are some points of contention that I have not settled yet. To the free gracer, It seems as though being "born again/regeneration" doesn't actually do anything other than save somebody from eternal punishment. What does the new Birth actually achieve according to free gracers?
@wtom04
@wtom04 Жыл бұрын
@@Jesussaves1993 Being born again is not an automatic guarantee that there will be inevitable changes in bad lifestyle, bad habits, etc, etc. Born again people SHOULD change, but the absence of change is not an indication that one is unsaved. There are many people who are Roman Catholic, Mormon, Jehovah's Witnesses, Calvinists, Arminians, etc, who experience life change, but are not saved. Calvinists/Lordship Salvation people will no doubt dismiss Christians who don't exhibit positive life change and exhibit good works as "unsaved false professors with non saving faith" based upon a faulty understanding and eisegesis of such passages like Luke 8:6-7/Luke 8:13-14, 2 Corinthians 13:5, 1 Corinthians 9:27, James 2:14-26, etc, that are all taken in isolation and out of context. There are scores of people who experience life change after spending many years in prison and then going through rehab, but many are not saved and are of a false religion like Buddhism, etc. Good works and good moral behavior and ethics can be seen in people like philanthropists, humanitarianists, the Boys/Girls Scouts of America, some martial artists, Yoga practitioners, and even among some atheists, but again, many of these people are unsaved and sometimes these people can exist side by side with Free Grace believers who don't exhibit good attributes.
@caman171
@caman171 Жыл бұрын
@@Jesussaves1993 what is achieved in the new birth, is a new nature. the new nature is an infant and needs time to grow. as time goes by, the new believer will begin to question their actions. do they have to turn from sin? no, because they still have a free will choice between the old nature and the new. but they can never be happy or have joy if the persist in sin. trust me, the child of God will hear his voice in their conscience, even if outwardly there seems to be no change. look at it like this. if someone is mentally unstable, and theyre standing on a ledge getting ready to jump, and you walk out there to talk to them, and ask, "do u believe i love you and want u to live?" if they answer "yes" it doesnt mean they wont jump. but it does mean that if u grab them, to "save" them from their self destruction, that they will have an affinity for u afterwards, and will listen to you when they wont listen to anyone else. even a mentally unstable person is able to feel love for one who keeps them from self harm, even tho they may still try to harm themselves
@irataylor5083
@irataylor5083 Жыл бұрын
Truth!!
@JonathanGrandt
@JonathanGrandt Жыл бұрын
John 3:17-20 17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. 18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son. 19 This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but people loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. 20 Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that their deeds will be exposed.
@AlexanderMcConnell
@AlexanderMcConnell Жыл бұрын
Amen. Well said. There is so much legalistic Christianity that is stopping people coming to Jesus to receive the free gift of righteousness. They make people perform to be saved. But we perform because we are eternally secure and realise there are benefits to living for God. Thankfully that whole legalistic system is coming down. God is removing its influence.
@DW-yl9ww
@DW-yl9ww Жыл бұрын
YOU ARE CHEAPENING GRACE AND GIVING PEOPLE A LICENSE TO SIN. HERE IS THE DEFINITION OF GRACE. Titus 2 For the grace of God has appeared that offers salvation to all people. 12 It teaches us to say “No” to ungodliness and worldly passions, and to live self-controlled, upright and godly lives in this present age, 13 while we wait for the blessed hope-the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ, 14 who gave himself for us to redeem us from all wickedness and to purify for himself a people that are his very own, eager to do what is good.
@nayelivalladares6430
@nayelivalladares6430 Жыл бұрын
@@DW-yl9ww self righteous
@caman171
@caman171 Жыл бұрын
@@DW-yl9ww you need to read those verses again. so lets break it down 1. grace has appeared and offers salvation to ALL. 2. AFTER salvation, it TEACHES us to say "no" to worldly passions. 3. then we WAIT for the appearing of the glory of our great God, Jesus salvation has NO conditions except real faith/belief. if you TRULY believe, you have already seen how great ur sin is, or else you wouldnt see the need to trust Christ, but you still have a choice (and now the ability/strength) to say "no" to sin. as a child of God, u can still stay in sin, but as a Father He will discipline, as there are consequences to our sin, yet we remain His forever. to tell someone they must turn from sin to be saved is ludicrous. if we could turn from sin on our own, then Jesus death was in vain
@RoyceVanBlaricome
@RoyceVanBlaricome Жыл бұрын
@@nayelivalladares6430 - The “Self-Righteous" card, much like the “Holier than thou” card, the " Pharisee" card, and the “Legalism” card is the oh so often touted mantra against someone by those who wish to cling to their sin. The ironic, and somewhat funny thing, is that if he actually knew why Jesus railed on the Pharisees and didn't have a GIANT Sequoia Tree sticking outta his eye socket, he'd see his own reflection in that claim. You’re just like the full-grown naked man standing in front of a mirror saying, "Boy howdy, I am one good lookin' woman!" In fact, you’re worse! You’re in the crowd of folks standing behind him saying, "You sure are!!"
@AlexanderMcConnell
@AlexanderMcConnell Жыл бұрын
@@DW-yl9ww YOU ARE CHEAPENING THE BLOOD OF JESUS AND PREACHING A FALSE GOSPEL THAT CURSES BELIEVERS AND KEEPS PEOPLE FROM COMING TO JESUS TO BE SAVED. That is not the definition of grace. This is the definition of grace: 'And if by grace, then it is no longer of works; otherwise grace is no longer grace. But if it is of works, it is no longer grace; otherwise work is no longer work' (Romans 11v6). Yes, grace (unmerited favour) teaches us to live godly lives. Unmerited favour transforms a person, not fear of losing salvation. That's why we need the free gift of righteousness and the abundance of grace (Romans 5v17). We do not need legalistic threats and self-righteous, performance-based morality. May you discover the gospel. May you repent and honour what Jesus did and stop watering down His blood by adding your little acts obedience to it. The glory belongs to Jesus, not you. If you don't repent, you'll see what happens for yourself-hypocrisy and inevitable breakdown. As for me, I am saved by faith alone in Christ alone. I trust the Spirit to transform me and lead me into a life of obedience, not to earn or add to my salvation, but because I know how righteous and loved I am in Christ-apart from works.
@belongtotheway7869
@belongtotheway7869 Жыл бұрын
Amen!
@JonathanGrandt
@JonathanGrandt Жыл бұрын
When God says he will put in us a new heart and put His desires into us and cause us to walk in His ways… does this not involve some serious change in how one lives? How can you believe in He who you deny? How can you trust in the Lord and disagree with Him?
@waholoopesorry74
@waholoopesorry74 3 ай бұрын
Exactly. The Bible is very clear in Jeremiah 31 and Ezekiel 36 what happens when we are born again. Practicing sin in a habitual manner and being a born again Christian are simply incompatitble with each other.
@trentthompson2899
@trentthompson2899 Жыл бұрын
Amen, Rom 3:22,23 ... For there is no difference... and we shouldn't make one where there are none .
@fancimcguffin2227
@fancimcguffin2227 Жыл бұрын
Amen! Thank you for true teaching! The same way every other person has to be saved, by believing the gospel 1Cor. 15:1-4. The seed must be in a person before it can grow.
@2Chronicles714_
@2Chronicles714_ Жыл бұрын
1 Corinthians 15:2 By this gospel you are saved, [IF] you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you have believed in vain. If we believe the gospel that Paul preached We will come to Christ in repentance. Acts 17:30 In the past God overlooked such ignorance but now commandeth all people every where to repent. Acts 20:21 I have declared to both Jews and Greeks that they must turn to God in repentance and have faith in our Lord Jesus. Jesus and Paul Acts 26:18-20 To open their eyes and turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan to God, so that they may receive forgiveness of sins and a place among those who are sanctified by faith in me.’ 19“So then, King Agrippa, I was not disobedient to the vision from heaven. First to those in Damascus, then to those in Jerusalem and in all Judea, and then to the Gentiles, I preached that they should repent and turn to God and demonstrate their repentance by their deeds. Show evidence of your repentance by your conduct. We must also be a be immators of Christ as Paul was (1 Corinthians 11:1). Romans 8:6-7,13 The mind governed by the flesh is death, but the mind governed by the Spirit is life and peace. 7The mind governed by the flesh is hostile to God; it does not submit to God’s law, nor can it do so.13For if you live according to the flesh, you will die; but if by the Spirit you put to death the misdeeds of the body, you will live. Without repentance and a lifestyle change you are not saved.
@Dragockon
@Dragockon 6 ай бұрын
Beautiful message
@dc-wp8oc
@dc-wp8oc Жыл бұрын
Mr. Wilkin, how is your message to be understood, in light of (Mark 2:17)? Are you teaching that one can profess faith in the Gospel message without any subsequent consequences to their reprobate lifestyle? What is your understanding of verses like (1 Corintians 6:20)?
@dc-wp8oc
@dc-wp8oc Жыл бұрын
@Alvin Fen I see my previous response to your reply was not retained so I will make another attempt. AF, you wrote "Jesus never told her she needed to leave the affair she was having. Even though He did not approve of it." Pure speculation on your part. Scripture does not reveal all that may have been said in this conversation or the final fallout for this woman. The point of this video isn't eternal security of the believer which scripture does teach, but about LGBT people. No one can encounter Jesus and His gift of salvation, profess belief and continue to lead an immoral lifestyle such as gender confusion or living as a reprobate. True belief in Christ leads a person to realize there is no reconciliation with sin. Scripture teaches that any believer retains their sinful nature while at the same time, becomes a vessel for inhabitation by the Holy Spirit. A dichotomy which produces new things: a will to follow after the Spirit, a newfound appreciation of the destruction of sin, and a realization that we are bought with a price, that is, the precious blood of Jesus. (2 Corinthians 5:17) Those who teach that a person can profess faith in Christ and His work and then continue on with same attitude toward sin as before, are teaching heresy. For example, Romans Chapter (1) makes clear God's view on His design for sexuality. Those embracing gender confusion and LGBT lifestyles are just raising their middle finger to God's face. Can these folks be saved? Of course. If they are "born again" will they continue to support their distorted lifestyle? No.
@belvederebaileycambodia
@belvederebaileycambodia 6 ай бұрын
@@dc-wp8oc 100% right. The guy who made this video should have covered this. One who watches this video could easily come away with the idea that they can easily continue in what God calls wicked (whatever that lifestyle may be). There must be an element of repentance in the Christian, at least, after Salvation.... for ANYONE...not just lgbt.
@easttexan2933
@easttexan2933 4 ай бұрын
@@dc-wp8oc but yet isn't this what the video is teaching? Believe and just continue on? That's what I got from it. If I were a homosexual and someone told me I could go to heaven when I die by believing in Jesus, of course I'm going to "believe" in Jesus. Nothing about the new birth was mentioned. How does that work exactly.
@dc-wp8oc
@dc-wp8oc 4 ай бұрын
@@easttexan2933 "Nothing about the new birth was mentioned." Exactly. Personally believe Wilkin is preaching a false gospel. He does not want to offend anyone. I have not found any verse in scripture which indicates one can believe the gospel message and then continue on as before, while embracing a scripture defined, perverted lifestyle. Why go to a physician if one believes they are not sick? Would Wilkin permit a professed believer in the gospel, who is also an avowed pedophile, to babysit his grandchildren? We will never know since it seems he does not condescend to make comments on his own videos.
@The_Real_FM
@The_Real_FM 3 ай бұрын
That’s not what he said.
@Nelly12121
@Nelly12121 7 ай бұрын
Thank you brother for speaking truth about our salvation! There a probably a million of not publicly sins like greed, envy, jealousy, unkindness etc with which has god has to deal with all of us… so please fellow Christians go ahead and throw your stones. The grace evangelical society is a beautiful 🌺 in a field of a lot of weed.
@TheCybercoco
@TheCybercoco 3 ай бұрын
Fair enough. But I challenge you to make a video that answers the question "Should Christians live an LGBT lifestyle?" Does lifestyle matter in the Christian walk?
@GESvids
@GESvids 3 ай бұрын
Do You Fear a Dead Faith? - James 2:14-26 by Bob Wilkin kzbin.info/www/bejne/m2bTZpeMiqp9qbs Is the Faith that Saves Ever Alone? - James 2 - Ken Yates kzbin.info/www/bejne/q5PQfnmfndeel9U If I Believe in Jesus for Eternal Life, Can I Live However I Want? - Zane Hodges kzbin.infolB37Uv1GJSs If Eternal Life is Free, Is It Wrong to be Motivated by Eternal Rewards? - Zane Hodges kzbin.info5ao4ruj1E6E In Order to Please the Lord, Do We Need to Be Motivated By Rewards and Going After Rewards? - Bob Wilkin & Steve Elkins kzbin.info/www/bejne/apC4oJmMg86YbJY
@nathaniel_pardue
@nathaniel_pardue Ай бұрын
Amen. His sacrifice was for all, for all time, ever, through belief in Him.
@michaelc7418
@michaelc7418 Жыл бұрын
-> Exactly. Someone currently living in the LGBT lifestyle does not mean they are not saved. A believer's sins are not counted against them, and they have God's perfect record of righteousness given to them. After one is saved, their sinful flesh birth is still the same as it was, that is why saved people still commit sin with their body. 1 John 3:9 states that he who is born of God (new spiritual creature inside the believer) does not commit sin, and cannot sin. Philippians 3:21 shows that God will (future) change the vile (evil) body of every believer into a glorious body. 2 Corinthians 5:19 - To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation. 2 Corinthians 5:20 - Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ's stead, be ye reconciled to God. 2 Corinthians 5:21 - For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him. 1 John 3:9 - Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. Philippians 3:21 - Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.
@GodIsMyJudge213
@GodIsMyJudge213 Жыл бұрын
Wrong! You cannot live in the same sin that Jesus died to pay for. Not so that you can continue to live in it, but that you may be freed from it!
@michaelc7418
@michaelc7418 Жыл бұрын
@@GodIsMyJudge213 A believer's flesh is not free from sin, their spirit is. 1 John 1:8 tells us that if you say you have no sin, you're a liar. Jesus said in John 8:34, "Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin." We all commit acts of sin, no one lives perfectly in this life; so all believer's fleshly bodies are servants of sin because we all commits acts of sin. The new birth inside of a believer is completely sinless; the new them that has been born of God goes to Heaven. Bible teaches that our flesh cannot inherit the kingdom of God because it's corrupted with sin, whereas the new birth is born of an incorruptible seed. Here are Bible verses to help you understand the flesh birth vs the spirit birth: ---------------------------- 1 Corinthians 15:50 - Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption. 1 Corinthians 15:51 - Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 1 Corinthians 15:52 - In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 1 Corinthians 15:53 - For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. ---------------------------- John 3:3 - Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. John 3:4 - Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born? John 3:5 - Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. John 3:6 - That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. John 3:7 - Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again. ---------------------------- 1 Peter 1:23 - Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever. ---------------------------- 1 John 3:9 - Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. ---------------------------- Philippians 3:21 - Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself. ----------------------------
@yeshuaneitheristheresalvat8018
@yeshuaneitheristheresalvat8018 Жыл бұрын
@@GodIsMyJudge213 no, if truly saved not PRACTICE IT, AND NO TRUE CONVERTED PERSON BY CHRIST WIIL. BUT YOU CAN FALL AND COMMIT IT. AND YOU IF TRULY SAVED HAVE COMMITED THE SIN THAT YOU ONCE LIVED IN BEFORE SALVATION AND YOU KNOW IT!!!!!!!
@coltonlevi4385
@coltonlevi4385 11 ай бұрын
I would love a video expanding on this topic. Like a drawn out scripture to scripture discussion. I have a gay uncle. He was molested heavily all growing up and of course turned out to be gay. I know for a fact it happened because my mom was molested by the same guy doing it to him. Anyhow, how is Gods grace not extended to those with similar situation? This is for those who claim a homosexual cannot be saved in their sin. Tell me how Salvation isn’t extended beyond to those who happen to sin differently than you? Great topic that needs to be further discussed.
@coltonlevi4385
@coltonlevi4385 11 ай бұрын
@alvinfen4511 Sincerely appreciate the comment! The enemy always tried to stumble my walk with works based and feeling like I’m not good enough for Gods love… been a struggle with that. Also having a gay Uncle with his own struggles and being an atheist because no one from the church ever showed him the true love of Christ is disheartening because I never know how to describe it the right way and don’t wanna say anything that isn’t biblically sound.. like can I tell him freely that he can be saved in his sins through Christ? Even if he continues to do homesexual activity? Always wonder how to approach that..
@2Chronicles714_
@2Chronicles714_ 10 ай бұрын
@alvinfen4511 The reason you call me a false teacher is found in 2 Peter 2:1-2 But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them-bringing swift destruction on themselves 2Many will follow their depraved conduct and 👉 will bring the way of truth into disrepute. 👈3In the The Apostle Paul said Faith is a gift from God [Ephesians 2:8] For by grace you have been saved through[ faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God,] Faith is a gift from God. Repentance is what we all must come to by our free will. Repentance is granted by God. Acts 11:18 When they heard these things they became silent; and they glorified God, saying, “Then God has also granted to the Gentiles repentance to life. 2 Timothy 2:24-25 And a servant of the Lord must not quarrel but be gentle to all, able to teach, patient, 25in humility correcting those who are in opposition [like false teachers like you], if God perhaps will grant them repentance, so that they may know the truth So kindly show us where the Bible says what you continually say "Sin is not the critical issue" If not then who's the false teacher.
@focalgroundhog1660
@focalgroundhog1660 Жыл бұрын
When you are born again you become a new creature. I agree with what you are saying about salvation but it sounds like you are saying it doesn't matter if that person is changed. What about 1stJohn 3 4-10? Well, all of 1st John??
@morghe321
@morghe321 Жыл бұрын
This video left me very confused.
@2Chronicles714_
@2Chronicles714_ Жыл бұрын
You are correct if there is not a change a person is not born again.
@JG-xw5rs
@JG-xw5rs Жыл бұрын
I've come to the conclusion that nobody understands salvation ,I'll guess we'll find out when we all die .😔
@davidkarr5119
@davidkarr5119 Жыл бұрын
​@alvinfen4511absolutely true, well quoted .
@michaelmaniaci5937
@michaelmaniaci5937 3 ай бұрын
Wow when it's too late 😅
@JG-xw5rs
@JG-xw5rs 3 ай бұрын
@@michaelmaniaci5937 yep 👍
@garyeastman7882
@garyeastman7882 4 ай бұрын
Thank You, Pastor Bob, for telling the simple, pure Gospel Truth! You are a voice crying in the wilderness when it comes to Baptist and Evangelical pastors. Thank God for you + Almost every one of the former pastors that I have communicated with on-line will roundly condemn Lordship Salvation, insist that metanoia/repentance is a change of mind about how one is saved (through faith alone, by grace), THEN when they learn that you are gay they will insist it is a sinful 'choice' and that you must repent of being homosexual in order to be born again and saved, thus completely controverting the very message of salvation that they preach! It is maddeningly frustrating that almost every Bible-believing pastor insists on this double standard for LGBT people coming to Christ. They refuse to believe that anyone could be born with same-sex attraction and that it is not a conscious, sinful and perverted choice. This is the problem many LGBT Christians face when it comes to finding a church community. If they go to a welcoming & affirming church, they are warmly embraced and unconditionally loved but hear a social gospel, watered down, focusing on this world and ignoring evangelical truths. If they go to a 'Bible-believing' church they will be told that they must first stop 'promoting homosexuality' (which in their understanding means simply being LGBT and breathing, completely regardless of anything they may do or not do in their daily life!) otherwise they are not saved, born again, redeemed by the precious Blood of Jesus Christ or indwelt by His Holy Spirit (otherwise, if they truly were, they would have 'stopped being gay'). So, many of us are caught between the proverbial rock and a hard place and remain without any church community to call home. Please, continue to preach the truth about LGBT people and pray for those of us who can find no Bible-believing church or pastor that, like you, holds to the unconditional promise of salvation for all who seek it in Christ Jesus through faith alone by grace.
@rparcz
@rparcz Жыл бұрын
Truth! However, Ray Comfort would argue that! Lol
@whitney2280
@whitney2280 4 күн бұрын
Amen
@chrisking6874
@chrisking6874 2 ай бұрын
1 Corinthians 10:13 KJV - There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.
@yeshuaneitheristheresalvat8018
@yeshuaneitheristheresalvat8018 Жыл бұрын
People confuse eternal life in Christ, with sanctification and gain or loss of reward. Biblical correct exposition Brother Bob. Thanks brother. Every one of the saints commenting here that do not understand this, even though saved, knows deep inside that although they have not, and will not practice the sin that they did before salvation, EVERY INE OF THEM HAVE COMMITED THAT SIN AFTER SALVATION. AND ANY SAINT THAT SAYS THEY HAVE NOT IS NOT TELLING THE TRUTH
@jimkraft9445
@jimkraft9445 Жыл бұрын
First John 3:9. Whosoever is born of God doeth not commit sin, not practice sin, For His seed, Ephesians 1:13, remaineth in him, and He the Holy Spirit cannot sin. First John 1:8. If we say we have no sin, we decieve ourselves, and the truth is not in us. The Holy Spirit that lives in the believer cannot sin. But we still do. The flesh is not born again, only the soul/spirit. John 3:18. John 6:47. Second Timothy 2:13. John 5:24. Verily, verily, I say unto you, he that heareth my word, and believeth in Him that sent me, HATH EVERLASTING LIFE, AND SHALL NOT COME INTO JUDGEMENT, BUT IS PASSED FROM DEATH UNTO LIFE. It is our soul/spirit that is saved. We still have our old sinful nature. That is why we all die. Romans 6:23 For the penalty for sin is death, and we all sin, First John 1:8, and we all die, but the GIFT of God is eternal life, through Jesus Christ finished work on the cross. The gift of God is eternal life because no one can earn it. Rewards in heaven are earned. First Corinthians 3:11-15. Salvation is a free gift apart from works. Romans 4:5. Discipleship is for rewards in heaven, or the chastening of His children. Colossians 3:5-6. The wrath of God comes on the children of disobedience. Chastisement. Not loss of eternal life. God cannot lie. John 3:18.
@2Chronicles714_
@2Chronicles714_ Жыл бұрын
1 John 3:9 No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God’s seed remains in them; they cannot go on sinning, because they have been born of God. It's not ok with God to continue living in unrepentant sin, simply because they uttered I believe at one point in their life. Hebrews 12:14 Make every effort to live in peace with everyone and to be holy; without holiness no one will see the Lord. Galatians 6:7-9 Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows. 8 Whoever sows to please their flesh, from the flesh will reap destruction; whoever sows to please the Spirit, from the Spirit will reap eternal life. 9 Let us not become weary in doing good, for at the proper time we will reap a harvest if we do not give up. 1 Peter 1:14-16 As obedient children, do not conform to the evil desires you had when you lived in ignorance. 15 But just as he who called you is holy, so be holy in all you do; 16 for it is written: “Be holy, because I am holy.” Proverbs 28:13 He that covereth his sins shall not prosper: but whoso confesseth and forsaketh them shall have mercy. 1 John 1:6 If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:” John 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.” 1 John 5:3 In In fact, this is love for God: to keep his commands. And his commands are not burdensome. Psalms 32:5 Then I acknowledged my sin to you and did not cover up my iniquity. I said, “I will confess my transgressions to the Lord.” And you forgave the guilt of my sin..
@jimkraft9445
@jimkraft9445 Жыл бұрын
First John 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only, but for the sins of the whole world. John 3:18. 1st John 3:9 KJV. Whosoever is born of God doeth not commit sin. For His Seed, Ephesians 1:13, remaineth in him, and He cannot sin because he is born of God. First John 1:10 If we say we have not sinned, we call God a liar. Romans 3:5-8. Romans 3:26-28. Jesus died for sinners which we all are.
@2Chronicles714_
@2Chronicles714_ Жыл бұрын
Ephesians 1:13 Means In which sense the word "sealing" is used here, and intends that assurance which God gives his people of their interest in his love, and the covenant of grace; of their election of God, and redemption by Christ; of their interest in Christ, and union with him; of their justification by repentance by Him, and adoption through Him; of the truth of grace in their hearts. Their perseverance in it, The persons thus sealed ARE NOT CARNAL AND NOT unconverted unrepentant persons, only true believers in Christ, and these, after they commence such; the seal by which they are sealed, is not any of the ordinances, such as circumcision under the Old Testament. To receive the gift of the Holy Spirit repentance must come first. Acts 2:38,41 Peter replied, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. 41Those who accepted his message were baptized, and about three thousand were added to their number that day. The disciples would not water baptize anyone until they repented of sin. Acts16:32-33.
@dedios03
@dedios03 Жыл бұрын
@@2Chronicles714_ all those passages are out of context and understanding. Fo instance 1john is about the inner man. The inner man cannot sin it is born of God and kept holy and perfect without sin and it is he that will be raised up to eternal life and the kingdom. So he. The inner man who is born of God cannot sin not just continue in sin but not sin at all. The outter man sins all the time in many ways when we walk in the new man we walk in His love and the fruits of the Spirit are manifest by Him in the inner man. Thats a false interpretive version if the bible you have there that ims to change the meaning to add works of righteousness that we have done to Jesus sacrifice and obedience. Acts was a transition book and in those passages Peter is specifically asking them to repent of not believing in Jesus and crucifying Him as a nation. Obviously if you did that you must turn and believe as apposed to not and put yur faith in Jesus and you will recieve the Holy Spirit that intant just like Nicodemus even before Peter was done talking he recieved the Spirit and salvation. The inner man is under Jesus perfection so is the promise not given to us by our repentance pf individual sins but by His obedience and righteousness once for all Hebrews 10. You are a pride filled sinner and you need His grace alone. Oh wretched men that we are!
@salvatorepacillo4557
@salvatorepacillo4557 Жыл бұрын
But it is not a question of spiritual growth but of renunciation of sin precisely at the moment of conversion, I agree that salvation is by grace through faith but at the moment of conversion it is
@lbjesuskinglordsaviour3697
@lbjesuskinglordsaviour3697 Жыл бұрын
YES!!! TRUTH!!! Jesus bless this ministry for everyone to understand what it means to be truly born again!! All glory to God!! 🙏🏽♥️🙏🏽♥️
@reformedpilgrim
@reformedpilgrim 10 ай бұрын
Once we are born again, the Holy Spirit works in us, to conform us into the image of Christ. We don't make this happen. *Philippians 1:6* And I am sure of this, that he who began a good work in you will bring it to completion at the day of Jesus Christ.
@thereturn2361
@thereturn2361 9 ай бұрын
The Holy Spirit will work in us to conform us into the image of Christ as we work out our salvation with fear and trembling. Phil 2:12-13. We don't make this happen on our own or by our own efforts but by faith in Jesus that he will work in us by his Holy Spirit to conform us. We are expected - even commanded - to work out our salvation. Don't think the HS is magically going to zap with without your cooperation.
@soteriology1012
@soteriology1012 Жыл бұрын
The answer is Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved. There is no difference. The gospel is a CONSTANT regardless of the manner extent timing & type of sin we all have in our past present or future.
@alexstamate7276
@alexstamate7276 9 ай бұрын
but also the Lord saved the hooker and told her NOW GO AND SIN NO MORE...He did not say do whatever you want ...youre saved anyway...
@briandavenport8971
@briandavenport8971 Жыл бұрын
A lot of people don’t understand that because you believed in Jesus Christ that he died for your past, present and future sins, you are sealed by the Holy Spirit. You are sanctified and righteous through Gods eyes. He sees no sin, only the perfection of Jesus Christ. Your sins are covered by the blood of the lamb. Hebrews 8:12 says, “For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more”. If you don’t believe this, then you’re calling God and liar and Jesus died in vein.
@rapidfire4528
@rapidfire4528 Жыл бұрын
For awhile I was listening to a certain IBF church that believe once saved always saved but they didn’t believe homosexuals could be saved which goes against the teachings of the Bible, Jesus died for all sins regardless of what they are, those who believe in the Lord Jesus Christ shalt be saved, so yes that includes everyone and homosexuals and if they wish to continue in that path they’ll suffer the consequences of that lifestyle here on earth but they’ll go to heaven since they believed on the Lord Jesus Christ, discipleship aka the Christian walk comes after we’re saved if the individual wants to it’s not an obligation and it’s not required to receive or maintain salvation, salvation is a gift from God that doesn’t require a payment plan from us, Jesus Christ Himself was the payment for all our sins past, present and future, after an individual is saved and serve God will receive blessings and rewards in heaven for living a Godly life but the reward isn’t salvation it’s apart from salvation, so yes there’s benefits for living a Christ centered spiritual life, the Bible tells us we should walk in the spirit in order to not fulfill the deeds of the flesh.
@waynel389
@waynel389 Жыл бұрын
That's why it's call GRACE
@888YouCantHandle
@888YouCantHandle Жыл бұрын
Will abominable things be in the kingdom of God?
@rapidfire4528
@rapidfire4528 Жыл бұрын
@@888YouCantHandle Yes that’s the beauty of God’s grace, as much as we might disagree the power God’s Grace through the blood of Jesus Christ makes it possible for the most vile and wicked person equal opportunity for salvation God doesn’t play favorites this is why salvation is a gift and not something anyone can earn or merit
@TheOnlyWayIsJesus
@TheOnlyWayIsJesus Жыл бұрын
Yea that crazy Steven Anderson and his crazy "reprobate doctrine" cult... he's probably a closet homosexual.
@martinea199
@martinea199 Жыл бұрын
@@888YouCantHandle also we are all abominable things
@salvatorepacillo4557
@salvatorepacillo4557 Жыл бұрын
At the moment of conversion we renounce the sin that is present in that very moment that believes, we must not wait to grow in faith.
@GoyimNewsNetwork
@GoyimNewsNetwork Жыл бұрын
Where does the Bible say that we must renounce sin to be converted?
@kenjohnson6164
@kenjohnson6164 Жыл бұрын
@@GoyimNewsNetwork The Bible teaches that repentance is an essential component of conversion, which involves turning away from sin and turning towards God. The word "repent" means to change one's mind or direction, and it is used throughout the New Testament to describe the act of turning away from sin and towards God. In Acts 3:19, Peter preaches to the crowd, "Repent therefore, and turn back, that your sins may be blotted out." In this passage, repentance is connected to the forgiveness of sins. Similarly, in Acts 26:20, Paul describes his ministry, saying, "but declared first to those in Damascus, then in Jerusalem and throughout all the region of Judea, and also to the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to God, performing deeds in keeping with their repentance." Here, repentance is connected to a changed life and behavior. In 1 John 1:9, it says, "If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness." This verse implies that confessing our sins is part of repentance and conversion. In Luke 13:3, Jesus says, "No, I tell you; but unless you repent, you will all likewise perish." This emphasizes the importance of repentance and its connection to eternal life. In conclusion, while the exact phrase "renounce sin" may not appear in the Bible, the concept of turning away from sin and towards God is a central part of repentance and conversion. Through repentance and faith in Jesus Christ, we can receive forgiveness of sins and new life in Him.
@davidkarr5119
@davidkarr5119 Жыл бұрын
​@@GoyimNewsNetworkI agree, where, I haven't found it!
@zebra2346
@zebra2346 10 ай бұрын
Yes, as Christians we should all try to renounce our sins, that is the process of sanctification. But turning from sins is not required for our justification. The only requirement is to believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and we will be saved
@robroy4058
@robroy4058 9 ай бұрын
@@GoyimNewsNetwork what was Jesus saying when He started His ministry…. REPENT
@Titus2_13
@Titus2_13 Жыл бұрын
But don't they need to understand their sinners in order to understand their need for a savior??
@AntonsClass
@AntonsClass Жыл бұрын
Everyone is a sinner. No LGBT person who is Christian believes they are perfect.
@ChrisLegg17
@ChrisLegg17 Жыл бұрын
Every human being understands that someday they will perish from this life, that they'll someday die. "The Christ" is the Savior from death, in terms of justification. He's also the Savior from sin in terms of sanctification, but that's a process that comes after regeneration (aka justification).
@na-zu2ey
@na-zu2ey Жыл бұрын
Yes, they need to understand they are sinners and they also must want to give up their sin. Repentance is when we stop loving our sinfulness, and turn to Christ to remove it from us.
@AntonsClass
@AntonsClass Жыл бұрын
@@na-zu2ey you're adding conditions to salvation. The only requirement is to believe Jesus died for our sins.
@na-zu2ey
@na-zu2ey Жыл бұрын
@@AntonsClass The question is, what does belief look like? Belief is faith, which ALWAYS looks like obedience. If you do not obey the one in whom you believe, you do not have faith in that person. Jesus taught repentance, regeneration, and renewal by the Holy Spirit. You can’t accept the gift of salvation from hell without accepting the gift of freedom from sin. If you choose to remain in sin, you are turning down your salvation.
@firebynightgospel8702
@firebynightgospel8702 2 ай бұрын
Do you have to repent ?
@GESvids
@GESvids 2 ай бұрын
Turn or Burn? - Do I Need to Repent of My Sins to Be Saved? - Bob Wilkin kzbin.info/www/bejne/iGjSm4Wvmqljeq8 Have you ever been told that you need to turn from your sins or you will burn in hell? Have you ever been told that you need to repent of your sins for salvation? Dr. Bob Wilkin looks at what one needs to do in order to receive everlasting life, and whether repentance is needed in in addition to believing in Jesus for everlasting life. What’s the Difference Between Repentance as a Change of Mind And Repentance as Turning from Sins? faithalone.org/blog/whats-the-difference-between-repentance-as-a-change-of-mind-and-repentance-as-turning-from-sins/ Does Your Mind Need Changing Repentance Reconsidered? faithalone.org/journal-articles/does-your-mind-need-changing/ Do You Have to Turn from Your Sins to be Born Again? faithalone.org/blog/do-you-have-to-turn-from-your-sins-to-be-born-again-1-corinthians-31-3/ Turn and Live: The Power of Repentance faithalone.org/shop/books/turn-and-live-the-power-of-repentance/
@na-zu2ey
@na-zu2ey Жыл бұрын
To believe in Jesus but disregard everything he teaches regarding repentance, sinning no more, etc is IMPOSSIBLE. Saying you believe in Jesus does not mean you’re a believer. Believing you’re saved by Jesus is not the same thing as believing in Jesus. Jesus said we are only his disciples if we hold to his teachings. See John 8:31
@ChrisLegg17
@ChrisLegg17 Жыл бұрын
A disciple is someone being disciplined by Him. Someone who simply "believes that He is the Christ, the Son of God" (John 20:31) is not instantaneously a disciple, because believing something and being disciplined by something are two separate things - literally in every single case in reality (except when works indoctrinated Christians relate it to being born again for some reason, but we actually all know the reason).
@na-zu2ey
@na-zu2ey Жыл бұрын
@@ChrisLegg17 “If you are not disciplined-and everyone undergoes discipline-then you are not legitimate, not true sons and daughters at all.” Hebrews 12:8 Disciples are the legitimate sons and daughters of God. Best to be a disciple :)
@Kirretje
@Kirretje Жыл бұрын
Great message and fully agree 😀 Though wondering always where and how "church discipline" comes in, if I can call it like that. Living a lifestyle of certain sins (hate using LGBT as an example for that cuz none is better than the other) but we know it isn't God's design , same as for being an alcoholic or addicted to drugs (not comparing the topics by the way, but these are some 'easy to use' examples). What do we do with fellow believers in "such lifestyle "?
@caman171
@caman171 Жыл бұрын
you love them and teach them. even if it appears they are rolling their eyes and rejecting the teaching, if they have truly believed, God deals with their heart. thats why churches should make a DIFFERENCE between being a mere believer and being a church member. most churches say ur a member once they baptize you. but that shouldnt be the case. you should TEACH them what is required to be a church member, THEN give them the option to join. IF they join, knowing what the church expects, THEN discipline them once they fall outside those requirements. probably baptism should come AFTER the church teaches them, since Jesus said, "go, teach, baptize". however, if at the point of teaching, they decline to join the church, they are still saved, but God will pursue their heart and urge them toward holiness
@jimkraft9445
@jimkraft9445 Жыл бұрын
First Corinthians 5:5 Turn such a one over to Satan to kill the flesh, so that his Spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord. This was a born again believer, Ephesians 1:13, who was sleeping with his fathers wife. He was about to lose his life, and the rewards he could have had in heaven, but the man was still saved. Only the rewards he could have had were burned up. First Corintians 3:15. He did get out of that relationship and came back into fellowship with God, and the church. Once we become a child of God, we are a child of God forever. Our relationship never changes. John 1:12. But our fellowship does. And the wrath of God comes on the children, believers of disobedience. Not loss of eternal life. John 3:18.
@murraylloyd6011
@murraylloyd6011 Жыл бұрын
​@@caman171 they "join the church" when they believe. So I would say the discipline would be applied with wisdom. Paul said if anyone named a brother is a .....lists the sin...this wicked person should be put out? Not to even eat with such a one?
@caman171
@caman171 Жыл бұрын
@@murraylloyd6011 yes the become part of the "body of Christ" the "Church" (capital "C"), but that is not the same thing as "joining" a local body of believers or "local church". you can only discipline those within ur local fellowship. but u can belong to the "Church" (body of Christ) and still not have membership in a local body of believers
@davidkarr5119
@davidkarr5119 Жыл бұрын
​@@caman171well said, thank you.
@amyshoemaker5770
@amyshoemaker5770 Жыл бұрын
Eternally secured.??? ...according to Hebrews 6 that is not the case
@amyshoemaker5770
@amyshoemaker5770 Жыл бұрын
Well ...Jesus said in the Bible that " ON that day a lot of people will say" Lord Lord didn't we perform miracles in your name and cast out demons" and Jesus said " And I will say to you I NEVER KNEW YOU DEPART FROM ME YOU WHO PRACTICE INIQUITIES!!!" Something to think about what Jesus said in the Bible
@thestig9087
@thestig9087 Жыл бұрын
Iniquities. Meaning they were practicing something that was unequal to what was required. They didn't believe in Jesus but were working for their salvation which doesn't meet the standard. Jesus makes us all equal, no matter the sin.
@amyshoemaker5770
@amyshoemaker5770 Жыл бұрын
@@thestig9087 ..the word iniquity means a SIN!!! And unconfessed , unrepentant sin doesn't put you on the path to Salvation . That what the Bible says anyways
@thestig9087
@thestig9087 Жыл бұрын
The origin doesn't mean that. It's Latin for not equal. If you want it to mean sin then we're all guilty of sin, not just homosexuals. Jesus listed several works, not sins before he stated this.
@amyshoemaker5770
@amyshoemaker5770 Жыл бұрын
@@thestig9087 ..Yes. we are all sinners that is why we have to pray, repent and ask God for forgiveness in Jesus name
@thestig9087
@thestig9087 Жыл бұрын
@@amyshoemaker5770 while those are all good things they don't lead to salvation. Those are subjective works. How much of each must one do? All you have to do is believe in Jesus for everlasting life.
@matthewgrahame5331
@matthewgrahame5331 Жыл бұрын
great news, as a rapist, l don't have to repent, !! good news indeed
@apollontheintp3257
@apollontheintp3257 Жыл бұрын
If this is true then your behaviour in life does not impact you being saved or not, is that correctly understood?
@ZandJ12345
@ZandJ12345 Жыл бұрын
Yes. Behaviour has nothing to do with being saved.
@apollontheintp3257
@apollontheintp3257 Жыл бұрын
@@ZandJ12345 But there are a zillion bible verses that say, also directly Jesus says: If you do X, you won't see the heavens. I think you need to read the whole bible, esp. New testament and combine it all for a complete picture.
@apollontheintp3257
@apollontheintp3257 Жыл бұрын
@@ZandJ12345 And let me stress test this a bit. If I believe in the Christs gospel but I don't care and I am literally a serial killer, do I then go to heaven? May anser would sure be "no".
@apollontheintp3257
@apollontheintp3257 Жыл бұрын
@Alvin Fen I am not sure Alvin. Many bible verses state indeed necessary requirements for being saved but not sufficient requirements. As there are so many necessary requirements for being saved across the bible, it is only sufficient if you fulfill them all. This is why the gate is so narrow, I fear.
@manuelester7420
@manuelester7420 Жыл бұрын
If a person hates his brother, he's a murderer and no murderer has eternal life within them. This means, that if you or anyone else thinks that they're saved, but hates his brother, they're not really saved, Because hating your brother makes you all murderers in your heart and no murderer has eternal life. So claiming to believe in Jesus doesn't mean you're saved. Actually, changing and living like Jesus lived, means you're saved. Most metals should stick to magnets just as most Christians should stick to doing what Jesus commanded. Jesus said, if you love me, keep my commandments. Ya Christian who sleeps around with multiple partners or a Christian who constantly loves to lie and tells lies, Isn't saved. If they were, their life would show significant positive changes. The blood of Jesus makes us righteous. Not our good works. But our good works, proves that we believe and proves our righteousness. So why wouldn't we actually behave righteously??? Jesus wasn't lying. The righteous, behave righteously and only occasionally sin, but repent when they do and doesn't stay in that living in that sin.
@2Chronicles714_
@2Chronicles714_ Жыл бұрын
Jesus makes it clear that a true believer is indeed a disciple.
@user-kb1jo8gj8u
@user-kb1jo8gj8u Жыл бұрын
So the woman who was caught in adultery did not have to stop sinning because she believed? But Jesus told her to go and sin no more.
@gregory7320
@gregory7320 11 ай бұрын
Jesus said this to her because if she was caught again Jesus wouldn't be there to save her from the people stoning her.
@eternamenteseguroenjesus2636
@eternamenteseguroenjesus2636 3 ай бұрын
The Lord said that because they were still under the law and if she was caught again and the Lord was not there again they will stone her as how the law demanded.
@christophe_li
@christophe_li 10 ай бұрын
This is absolutely 100% true about any gay/bi person regarding salvation. The Lord our GOD wants to save these people in that community. Unfortunately, the enemy is very strategic in his tactics and uses so called "christian's" to push these people away from the faith. Satan used the religious people back when Jesus walked the earth and he still uses them today. There will be gay people in heaven who trusted in the gospel alone found in 1 Corinthians 15 1-4 KJV to be permanently saved forever who still live that "lifestyle" and there will be people who go to church every week, serve at their church, evangelize the "gospel", etc who mix law and grace who will be burning in hell forever. I believe this is what the Lord has showed me a few years ago.
@jon5784
@jon5784 6 ай бұрын
That's why they call it the "Good News"! It's as simple as can be. We ned not do anything but believe (trust Jesus died for your sins). Best news ever!
@manuelester7420
@manuelester7420 Жыл бұрын
If you see a brother in Christ in need and you have the solution to his need, and don't give him the solution, The bible asks, how can the love of God be in that type of person? It means, that person isn't truly a saved, child of God. Because if he were, he would have help his brother who had the need. If anyone says that they know God, but they don't keep his commandments, they are a liar and the truth is not in them. They don't know God and the truth ain't in them and they're not saved, because if they were saved, they would keep his commandments the majority of the time. Read 1 John 3:10 to learn what are the characteristics of the devil's children and God's children.
@rosehammer9482
@rosehammer9482 4 ай бұрын
John 3:17 follows 16. The Bible was not written with chapters and verses. I highly recommend reading the whole book of John to receive the intended purpose . Read John 2:23-3:21 for full context of John 3:16.
@JZONE14U
@JZONE14U 4 ай бұрын
"...now, go and sin no more" I love Jesus so much. Amen, by faith you're saved. LGBT OR ANYONE IN THE WORLD, YOU BELIEVE IN THE SACRIFICE THAT HE DID ON THE CROSS FOR YOU AND FROM THERE ON JESUS WILL GIVE YOU GROWTH, THE HOLY SPIRIT WILL TELL YOU WHAT THINGS NEEDED TO BE CHANGED, ANY SIN THAT YOU THINK YOU ARE A SLAVED TO, YOU OFFER IT AS A GIFT TO THE LORD AND HE WILL EMPOWER YOU BY HIS HOLY SPIRIT. YOU ARE NOT GOING TO REGRET IT. THIS IS ETERNAL LIFE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AND YOU GET TO HUG YOUR MAKER. LOVE YOU ALL!
@ThemCoversMB
@ThemCoversMB 7 ай бұрын
There's no jew nor gentile in Christ. There's no seperation from me or any other sinner. We are justified by faith.
@erikareott6610
@erikareott6610 Жыл бұрын
It truly is the greatest news in the world!!!! Thank u Jesus!!!
@sigmavariant
@sigmavariant 3 ай бұрын
The point is that they are incapable of believing because they have rejected Jesus upto the point of being a reprobrate
@alexstamate7276
@alexstamate7276 9 ай бұрын
so than why God is saying that all these people who continue to live those life styles will burn in the lake of fire ? Is not true that when we know Christ we will realize our sins and be able to stop them ?
@thereturn2361
@thereturn2361 9 ай бұрын
Do not be led astray by Bob Wilkin. In 1st John, John writes: No one who abides in him keeps on sinning; no one who keeps on sinning has either seen him or known him. 3:6 and: Whoever makes a practice of sinning is of the devil 3:8 According to Wilkin, you do not have to repent, or turn from your sin. Scripture says anyone that keeps on sinning has not seen Christ or known him and is in fact, of the devil. When you come to faith in Christ, you do not get a license to freely sin from then on.
@kenjohnson6164
@kenjohnson6164 Жыл бұрын
Acts 26:20 says, "I preached that they should repent and turn to God and demonstrate their repentance by their deeds." In this chapter, the apostle Paul is giving his defense before King Agrippa and other officials. He recounts his conversion experience and how he went from persecuting Christians to preaching the gospel of Jesus Christ. In verse 18, Paul states that his mission was to open the eyes of the Gentiles and turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan to God. He also notes that this turning would result in the forgiveness of sins and a place among those who are sanctified by faith in Jesus Christ. In verse 19, Paul declares that he did not disobey the heavenly vision he received, but instead he preached the message of repentance to both Jews and Gentiles. He emphasized that he preached not only that people should repent, but also that they should turn to God and demonstrate their repentance through their deeds. The context of this passage highlights the importance of repentance as an essential component of salvation. Paul's message was not just about believing in Jesus, but also about turning away from sin and turning towards God. The evidence of true repentance is a changed life that reflects obedience to God's commands. In summary, Acts 26:20 underscores the importance of repentance as an essential aspect of salvation. Paul preached not only that people should repent of their sins, but also that they should turn to God and demonstrate their repentance through their deeds. This passage teaches that true repentance leads to a changed life that reflects obedience to God's commands.
@kenjohnson6164
@kenjohnson6164 Жыл бұрын
@Alvin Fen So based on your assumption John should be the Only Gospel we look to for instruction? Nothing else should be used? What do you mean repentance as to with harmony with God? We can have a relationship with God without actual repentance? No, we cannot have a relationship with God without repentance. Repentance is a crucial element of the gospel message and is necessary for our salvation and our relationship with God. Acts 2:38 (KJV) - "Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost." In this verse, Peter tells his listeners that repentance is a prerequisite for receiving the forgiveness of sins and the gift of the Holy Spirit. Luke 24:47 (KJV) - "And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem." Here, Jesus instructs his disciples to preach repentance and the forgiveness of sins to all nations, indicating that repentance is an essential part of the gospel message.
@kenjohnson6164
@kenjohnson6164 Жыл бұрын
@Alvin Fen So when Jesus said in Mark 1:15 - "The time has come," he said. "The kingdom of God has come near. Repent and believe the good news!" That's man-made doctrine or is it Jesus actually saying it.
@kenjohnson6164
@kenjohnson6164 Жыл бұрын
@Alvin Fen By the way, if you believe changing from unbelief to belief is what repent means, You should also know that unbelief is also a sin. So you are repenting of sin (unbelief) Yes, the Bible does teach that unbelief is a sin. Here are a few verses that address this topic: John 16:8-9 (KJV) - "And when he come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgement: Of sin, because they believe not on me." In this verse, Jesus tells his disciples that one of the roles of the Holy Spirit will be to convict the world of sin, specifically the sin of not believing in Jesus. Hebrews 3:12 (KJV) - "Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God." The author of Hebrews warns his readers against the danger of unbelief, which can lead to a departing from God and the loss of salvation. Mark 16:16 (KJV) - "He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned." In this verse, Jesus emphasizes the importance of belief as a condition for salvation and warns that those who do not believe will be condemned. These verses (and others) teach that unbelief is a sin because it involves a rejection of God and his truth, and it can lead to spiritual death and separation from God.
@kenjohnson6164
@kenjohnson6164 Жыл бұрын
@Alvin Fen you basically answered your own question, the works of turning from sin in the book of Jonah saved those people from God's anger. But you are telling people not to turn away from their sins. What do you think would have happened to them if you were there telling them not to repent. They would have faced God's wrath. Just like people that don't turn away from sin today will face God's wrath. Wake up buddy.
@2Chronicles714_
@2Chronicles714_ Жыл бұрын
Continues believing means continues in the faith by obedience. Luke 6:46-49 Why do you call me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ and do not do what I say? 47As for everyone who comes to me and hears my words and puts them into practice, I will show you what they are like. 48They are like a man building a house, who dug down deep and laid the foundation on rock. When a flood came, the torrent struck that house but could not shake it, because it was well built. 49But the one who hears my words and does not put them into practice is like a man who built a house on the ground without a foundationThe moment the torrent struck that house, it collapsed and its destruction was complete.”
@eugenejoseph7076
@eugenejoseph7076 25 күн бұрын
For all those hung up on sexual identity hear this, " people don't go to heaven because they are heterosexual nor does anyone end up in hell because they identify as 'gay, bisexual, trans etc' , you go to Heaven because you beleive Jesus saved your soul on the cross'. After you get saved, He is the one who guides and restores what the locusts have eaten. How do I know this? I was in the 'gay' community until I got saved on September 25, 1985 at 10:30 pm while leaving a Rock Concert stoned on drugs amd alcohol! I felt so lost and the Lord just came to me and told me He loved me and had died for me. Right there on the spot, I asked Him to forgive me. He did and 40 years later I am walking with my Lord and though the journey was difficult at times, He never left me or forsake me. Never mind what some 'christians' tellyou about your Life and your choices, just choose Him and let Him take over. He will NEVER, EVER, EVER, LET YOU DOWN!! Praise the Lord Jesus.
@teem311
@teem311 Жыл бұрын
And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; Romans 1:28, how do you relate with John 3:16. John 3:16 is true but people don't want to retain God in their knowledge. You should know better and have harmony. We love people of letters to change than to lie to please them.
@ChrisLegg17
@ChrisLegg17 Жыл бұрын
Did Jesus say "whosoever retains Me in their knowledge has everlasting life"..?
@na-zu2ey
@na-zu2ey Жыл бұрын
@@ChrisLegg17 Yes, He did. Remember when He said that we must abide in Him and *His words in us,* or we will be thrown into the fire. See John 15.
@ChrisLegg17
@ChrisLegg17 Жыл бұрын
@@na-zu2ey You're misunderstanding that. He's not saying He sends born again believers to the lake of fire for failing to persevere in faith and good works. How can you not see that you're confusing the explicitly clear saving message of Christ with what's metaphorical and obscure, pertaining purely to discipleship? If you don't believe that Jesus gives everlasting life to whosoever believes then you simply don't believe in Jesus Christ. If you're not truly safe then you're not truly saved, think about it.
@teem311
@teem311 Жыл бұрын
@Alvin Fen anyone that sins wilfully has no God in them. Don't compare the woman at the well and lgb..
@mikef7698
@mikef7698 Ай бұрын
​@@teem311, what about the man in Corinthians continuing to sleep with his father's wife? His body was delivered unto Satan, but his spirit was saved in the day of the Lord
@brucemilnes5914
@brucemilnes5914 Жыл бұрын
I think Jesus left out specific sins on purpose,except the love of money,I quit drinking and drugging 20 something years ago at salvation,are those sins greater than being gay ? Who knows,im still working on that log in my own eye,hard to see with parts still in there
@orangeandslinky
@orangeandslinky 5 күн бұрын
What can I learn about the Cross work of Jesus Christ in the book of John?
@GESvids
@GESvids 4 күн бұрын
What is the Difference in the Saving Message Before and After the Cross? - Bob Wilkin & David Renfro kzbin.info/www/bejne/paaleYyMjc14g8k Is the saving message any different pre-cross and post-cross?
@manuelester7420
@manuelester7420 Жыл бұрын
Lifestyle change is evidence of salvation. Sure we sin less as we grow in Christ, from faith to faith, but if you say you believe in Jesus and you only sin more and more, you're not saved at all. Your lifestyle proves it. Born again means you're a new creature. The old ways are gone and all things about you are literally new.
@2Chronicles714_
@2Chronicles714_ Жыл бұрын
Lifestyle change will send you to the lake of fire? Satan couldn't have decieved any better. Hebrews 12:14 Make every effort to live in peace with everyone AND TO BE HOLY, WITHOUT HOLINESS NO ONE WILL SEE THE LORD. 2 Thessalonians 1:8-9 IN FLAMING FIRE TAKING VENGEANCE ON them that know not God, AND THAT OBEY NOT the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ 9WHO SHALL BE PUNISHED WITH EVERLASTING DESTRUCTION from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power. 1 Corinthians 10:21You cannot drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of demons too you cannot have a part in both the Lord’s table and the table of demons 2 Timothy 2:19 Nevertheless, God’s solid foundation stands firm, sealed with this inscription “The Lord knows those who are his, and, “EVERYONE WHO CONFESSED THE NAME OF THE LORD MUST TURN AWAY FROM WICKEDNESS.” Titus 1:16 They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him being abominable and disobedient, and unto every good work. 1 John 2:4 He that saith I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
@2Chronicles714_
@2Chronicles714_ Жыл бұрын
Romans 4:4-5,16 Now to the one who works, his wages are not counted as a gift but as his due. 5And to the one who does not work but believes in him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is counted as righteousness.:16 THAT IS WHY IT DEPENDS ON FAITH, IN ORDER THAT THE PROMISE MAY REST ON GRACE AND BE GUARANTEED TO ALL HIS OFFSPRING -NOT ONLY TO THE ADHERENT OF THE LAW BUT ALSO TO THE ONE WHO SHARES THE FAITH of Abraham, who is the father of us all" Abraham was justified by his works, (but not works alone) but because he believed with faith he did the works that God required. James 2:21-24 Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he offered up his son Isaac on the altar? 22You see that faith was active along with his works, and faith was completed by his works; 23and the Scripture was fulfilled that says, “Abraham believed God, and it was counted to him as righteousness”-and he was called a friend of God. 24You see that a person is justified by works and not by faith alone. Without works Abraham's faith would have been meaningless We are to show evidence of faith otherwise it's just a word void of meaning.
@janicerios9723
@janicerios9723 Жыл бұрын
Romans 10:9-10 that if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
@timothyj5237
@timothyj5237 Жыл бұрын
@alvinfen4511 What does it mean to believe in Jesus? Does it mean to only agree with the happy and good tidings that Jesus proclaims? Or do you have to accept it all? Think about it. The 3 Persons are all in alignment. Jesus is in perfect harmony with the God of the OT. There are reasons why practicing homosexuals are not in churches.
@yeshuaneitheristheresalvat8018
@yeshuaneitheristheresalvat8018 Жыл бұрын
And if truly saved and a saint commits a sin and does not repent of it and keep short accounts, then daily communion is broken with Father and Lord Jesus and the Spirit, AND YOU WILL BE CHASTISED. PLEASE STUDY HEBREWS. CHASTISEMENT IS ANOTHER SIGN THAT A PERSON HAS ETERNAL LIFE BY JESUS.
@2Chronicles714_
@2Chronicles714_ Жыл бұрын
It's not ok with God to continue living in sin, simply because someone claims to believe and that you're going to spend eternity in God's sinless Kingdom and at worst He may chastise you but you can't forfeit salvation. Hebrews 12:14 Make every effort to live in peace with everyone and to be holy; without holiness no one will see the Lord. 1 Peter 1:14-16 As obedient children, do not conform to the evil desires you had when you lived in ignorance. 15 But just as he who called you is holy, so be holy in all you do; 16 for it is written: “Be holy, because I am holy.” Proverbs 28:13 He that covereth his sins shall not prosper: but whoso confesseth and forsaketh them shall have mercy. 1 John 1:6 If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:” John 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.” 1 John 5:3 In In fact, this is love for God: to keep his commands. And his commands are not burdensome.
@yeshuaneitheristheresalvat8018
@yeshuaneitheristheresalvat8018 Жыл бұрын
Neither is it ok with a person that Christ saved. The Spirit never produces that thought, and if truly saved they will be chastised, and maybe be taken home prematurely.
@yeshuaneitheristheresalvat8018
@yeshuaneitheristheresalvat8018 Жыл бұрын
Unregenerate people NEVER GET CHASTISED.
@2Chronicles714_
@2Chronicles714_ Жыл бұрын
@@yeshuaneitheristheresalvat8018 If someone incurrs God's wrath they will not ever see His Kingdom certainly without repentance. Colossians 3:5-9 Put to death therefore whatever belongs to your earthly nature sexual immorality impurity, lust, evil desires and greed, which is idolatry. Because of these, the wrath of God is coming. You used to walk in these ways in the life you once lived. But now you must also rid yourselves of all such things as these anger, rage malice slander, and filthy language from your lips. 9Do not lie to each other, since you have taken off your old self with its practices 10and have put on the new self which is being renewed in knowledge in the image of its Creator. Galatians 5:16-21 So I say, WALK BY THE SPIRIT, and YOU will not GRATIFY THE DESIRES of the FLESH.17For the FLESH DESIRES what is CONTRARY to the SPIRIT, and the SPIRIT what is CONTRARY to the FLESH. They are IN CONFLICT with each other, so that you ARE NOT to do WHATEVER YOU WANT.18But IF you are LED by THE SPIRIT, you are NOT UNDER the LAW. 19The acts of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; 20idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions 21and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I WARN YOU, as I did before, THAT THOSE WHO LIVE LIKE THIS WILL NOT INHERIT THE KINGDOM OF GOD.
@2Chronicles714_
@2Chronicles714_ Жыл бұрын
@@yeshuaneitheristheresalvat8018 So going to Heaven early is a punishment? If they are living like the unsaved they DON'T FEAR GOD Proverbs 1:7 The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction. Psalms 2:11 Serve the LORD with fear, and rejoice with trembling.” 2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, NOT WILLING THAT ANY SHOULD PERISH, but that ALL SHOULD COME TO REPENTANCE. Proverbs 10:27 The fear of the LORD prolongeth days: but the years of the wicked shall be shortened. Job 28:28 And unto man he said, Behold, the fear of the Lord, that is wisdom; and to depart from evil is understanding. Luke 12:5 But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear: Fear him, which after he hath killed hath power to cast into hell; yea, I say unto you, Fear him. Hebrews 10:31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God. Revelation 19:5 And a voice came out of the throne, saying, Praise our God, all ye his servants, and ye that fear him, both small and great.
@tigerwalker30
@tigerwalker30 3 ай бұрын
Believe means to put your trust in and it will transform you when the disciples believed they followed Jesus you can make the Bible say what ever you want and even the atheist will be in heaven but you have to read all the scriptures and see how lives were transformed
@jackerng
@jackerng Жыл бұрын
It is harmful to promote cheap grace... Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of these things the wrath of God comes upon the sons of disobedience. Therefore do not become partners with them; for at one time you were darkness, but now you are light in the Lord. Walk as children of light (for the fruit of light is found in all that is good and right and true), and try to discern what is pleasing to the Lord. Take no part in the unfruitful works of darkness, but instead expose them. For it is shameful even to speak of the things that they do in secret. But when anything is exposed by the light, it becomes visible, for anything that becomes visible is light. Therefore it says, "Awake, O sleeper, and arise from the dead, and Christ will shine on you." Ephesians 5:6‭-‬14 ESV
@wtom04
@wtom04 Жыл бұрын
+Jacker Ng Your usage of the pejorative term "cheap grace" is in essence mocking Christ and His finished work on the cross and calling it insufficient, so thereby you are adding your WORKS to the salvation equation which cannot save. Is this your understanding of salvation? "Hey, Lord Lord, please let me into heaven!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" Look Lord, I've repented of all my sins and have stopped sinning!!!!!!!! "Hey, Lord Lord, I have done the below following in YOUR NAME!!!!!!" "I don't smoke" "I don't drink" "I don't do drugs" "I don't masturbate" "I don't fornicate" "I don't adulterate" "I don't ever lust" "I don't ever look at porno" "I don't ever have wet dreams" "I don't get erections" "I've castrated myself" "I have been wearing a chastity belt all my life" "I don't get jealous or envious" "I am not greedy and always share with others" "I don't have sexual thoughts in my mind when I see an attractive person of the opposite sex" "I don't ever cuss or say 4 to 7 letter profanity words when I get angry" "I don't cheat on my taxes" "I help little old ladies across the street" "I don't ever lie" "I don't murder" "I never joined a gang" "I don't have evil thoughts in my mind when people rudely cut me off on the freeway at high speed" "I am not racist" "I don't have animosity in my heart when other people talk loudly and obnoxiously in a foreign language in front of me" "I give a tenth of my earnings to my local church" "I don't get angry or want to get even when my boss docks me 1 hour pay for being late 10 minutes because someone was blocking my driveway" "I love all my neighbors as myself even though they are very selfish and obnoxious jerks and troublemakers" "I don't get upset when people play LOUD MUSIC that disrupts my sleep" "Now, Lord pleeeease let me into heaven, Oh, pleeeeease!!!!!!!!!!!" Many people who are deeply entrenched in Lordship Salvation which is works salvation will always feel jealous and a sense of unfairness and despise those who believe in Free Grace/once saved always saved and feel that only those who commit, obey, persevere, and are faithful unceasingly deserve heaven more than others because of their works/ performance on this earth, but this is what Christ had to say : Luke 18:9-14 - 9 And he spake this parable unto certain WHICH TRUSTED IN THEMSELVES THAT THEY WERE RIGHTEOUS, and DESPISED OTHERS: 10 Two men went up into the temple to pray; the one a Pharisee, and the other a publican. 11 The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, THAT I AM NOT AS OTHER MEN ARE, EXTORTIONERS, UNJUST, ADULTERERS, OR EVEN AS THIS PUBLICAN. 12 I FAST TWICE IN THE WEEK, I GIVE TITHES OF ALL THAT I POSSESS. 13 And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner. 14 I tell you, THIS MAN WENT DOWN TO HIS HOUSE JUSTIFIED rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.
@chainsawsurgeon6108
@chainsawsurgeon6108 Жыл бұрын
Transgender is just a polite way of saying demon possession.
@historyperson1370
@historyperson1370 Жыл бұрын
Jesus. Said the wages of sin is death, unless you repent you will die in your sins. Our God is a holy God, he hates sin. Don’t listen to these false preachers. Read your BIBLE and you will find what Jesus says about it.
@nistan3
@nistan3 Жыл бұрын
He said that BEFORE the Cross. Peace
@jesuscameintheflesh4725
@jesuscameintheflesh4725 Жыл бұрын
What about LGBT people who say homosexuality is not a sin? If you are telling God what he calls sin is not sin, then you can’t be covered in His blood for ALL of your sins. Only some of them. The sin of homosexuality is not covered, and you are presented to the Lord as only, at best, as partially covered. A partially covered person isn’t guiltless before the Lord. Please someone explain why this line of thinking is incorrect?
@freakylocz14
@freakylocz14 9 ай бұрын
That doesn't matter
@jesuscameintheflesh4725
@jesuscameintheflesh4725 9 ай бұрын
@@freakylocz14 what doesn’t?
@freakylocz14
@freakylocz14 9 ай бұрын
@@jesuscameintheflesh4725 Whether you call it a sin doesn't matter concerning where you go after death.
@jesuscameintheflesh4725
@jesuscameintheflesh4725 9 ай бұрын
@@freakylocz14 If you don’t view it as sin despite God saying it is, then I question if you believe in the God that revealed Himself in the Bible. God then becomes a god as you desire him to be, Not God as He is. You therefore don’t believe in the real God. You believe in a god that fits your liking. Not the real God.
@freakylocz14
@freakylocz14 9 ай бұрын
@@jesuscameintheflesh4725 Don't worry. I do. You'd better get saved before you drop into Hell. 🥰
@James_no_hell
@James_no_hell 6 ай бұрын
All are forgiven. Not all are saved; but all die. When one dies the body and the spirit separate. The body gets buried and decomposes to nothing and the spirit goes to heaven. "To be absent from the body and to be present with the Lord. What ever label we carried on earth...we don't keep it. We all go to Heaven on equal footing so to speak.
@teem311
@teem311 Жыл бұрын
So this guy is the only right preacher? Very undividing just to be loved by the world.
@XxlightxX
@XxlightxX 8 ай бұрын
Youll be more rewarded for not continuing in sin and staying in bondage and are more profitable among your neighbors when you stay away from it. Grace will abound for your sins, but you made him the Lord of your life, so it should seem foolish and unwise to continue in sin, but you shouldnt feel obligated or think you're saved by your works.there should be some conviction about it and It's just a respect thing and God rewards you for it. I dont believe any church should support sinful behavior, but preach that christ came to save sinners from their sin and we are saved by his blood and not of ourselves and is a free gift of God. Sin isn't an issue with your salvation, but we should be wise and listen to the Lord and what he wants us to do. All of us struggle with sin, but we can always do better one day at a time.
@evanwildermann7034
@evanwildermann7034 Ай бұрын
Alot of people don't like you Wilkin unfortunately cause you separate active sanctification from the promise I would agree with you though for the Lord sanctifies us (active)and has sanctified us (passive)active sanctification is never perfect it's also not what saves us but the passive sanctification is perfect and does save us sometimes I notice that when the Bible uses that word sometimes it is passive and sometimes it is active one speaking of imputation and one speaking of personal development funny thing is new age Calvinism or reverting to Catholicism such as MacArthur and the rest of the gospel coalition there's a Calvinist channel that I like called theocast I'm not automatically opposed to a Calvinist as long as they don't start teaching Catholic dogma which they aren't suppose to its possible your exposing the loopholes in calvins theology and you see the direction it is going we as protestants should remain opposed to anything that opposes the 5 solas as that's what we believe true Christianity is not some fake garbage that causes you to.sell indulgences and burn people on a stake
@JonathanGrandt
@JonathanGrandt Жыл бұрын
Believe in Jesus.
@manuelester7420
@manuelester7420 Жыл бұрын
John 3:16 doesn't say, "will not perish".😳😱 It says, (SHOULD not ) perish, but have everlasting life. Big difference🤔. You can believe in Jesus and still go to hell. Change is evidence of being born and. Speaking in tongues isn't evidence of anything. You shouldn't go to to hell if you believe in Jesus, but you could, if God ordained works of righteousness don't accompany your belief/faith, it means that your faith is dead and isn't faith at all and cannot save you. If a person doesn't turn from sin, they are a child of the devil. 1John 3:10. I didn't say that if a person sins, they are a child of the devil. I said, if anyone says they're a Christian and doesn't do stop living a sinful lifestyle and turn from sin, they are a child of Satan. Read 1 John 3
@2Chronicles714_
@2Chronicles714_ Жыл бұрын
If all we have to do is say we believe and that's it then why didn't John stop after verse 18? 19And this is the judgment: the light has come into the world, and people loved the darkness rather than the light because their works were evil. 20For everyone who does wicked things hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his works should be exposed. 21But whoever does what is true comes to the light, so that it may be clearly seen that his works have been carried out in God. 36Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life; whoever does not obey the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God remains on him. To merely say I believe while loving darkness,and living in unrepentant sin HATES THE LIGHT by not obeying the Son. Repentance followed by obedience results in a lifestyle change that is saving Faith.
@nistan3
@nistan3 Жыл бұрын
Actually, the "gospel" is not an "invitation", rather, it is a declaration or proclamation that ALL are saved in Christ. Virtually all of Christianity believes that people must make a "decision" before dying. That is not true, otherwise, countless millions who never heard of Him would be lost, and the father DESIRES that no one is lost. "Scripture" even states that the Father WILL make all his desires come to pass!. God has no time limit on how long it takes to change a person with HIS love. The bottom line is that none will perish because ALL have been made alive with Christ and will realize it and bow their knee in gratitude in this life or beyond. No one can resist the love of God when it is revealed to them. Peace.
@Jeff-gr3yl
@Jeff-gr3yl Жыл бұрын
1st Corinthians 6:11. Teacher take this up with God for you are teaching contrary to God's word. Such were some of you.
@James_no_hell
@James_no_hell 6 ай бұрын
What does it mean to endure to the end? Well; it's obvious everyone lives untill they die. Therefore all are saved. Before you think I'm contradicting myself by a previous comment; we don't have to be saved to go to Heaven....just forgiven. Saved means you know you e been forgiven. Christ died for the forgiveness of every person. All therefore are forgiven. All; obviously; don't realize this.
@GESvids
@GESvids 6 ай бұрын
"It's Better Evangelism to Talk About Everlasting Life" by Mike Lii kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3XIfmavgK6FfpI
@janicerios9723
@janicerios9723 Жыл бұрын
Genesis 19:4-5 “Now before they lay down, the men of the city, the men of Sodom, both old and young, all the people from every quarter, surrounded the house. 5 And they called to Lot and said to him, ‘Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us that we may know them carnally.’” To know them carnally is, of course, a euphemism for having sex with them. The mob of men wanted to rape them! The attempted rape continues as they try to force their way into Lot’s house And they said, “Stand back!” Then they said, “This one came in to stay here, and he keeps acting as a judge; now we will deal worse with you than with them.”
@Kman.
@Kman. 27 күн бұрын
@ 1:06...a person doesn't need to acknowledge/admit that they're SINNERS?
@GESvids
@GESvids 27 күн бұрын
What Do We Mean by Propitiation? Does It Only Count if We Accept It? - Zane C. Hodges kzbin.info/www/bejne/fauQZIB5fqeri8U Zane Hodges answers the following questions: What does it mean that Jesus is the propitiation for the whole world? What did Jesus' death on the cross accomplish for everyone, both believers and unbelievers? Does anyone get sent to hell as punishment for their sins? Why do unbelievers go to the lake of fire?
@mangs9940
@mangs9940 2 ай бұрын
Yes we might not be able to earn Christian salvation through repentance, but I think its going too far to say just live any old way and you will be OK?????🔥🔥🔥🔥.... the bible has warnings too for believers that cannot just be ignored or explained away.
@GESvids
@GESvids 2 ай бұрын
If I Believe in Jesus for Eternal Life, Can I Live However I Want? - Zane Hodges kzbin.infolB37Uv1GJSs
@mangs9940
@mangs9940 2 ай бұрын
@@GESvids maybe we only need 1 verse. Matthew 7:13-14 Satanic Version 👿 ---* (MODIFIED) *😇 “Enter through the WIDE gate. For WIDE is the gate and broad is the road that leads to LIFE and EASY is the way MANY will find it!..... good luck
@mangs9940
@mangs9940 2 ай бұрын
@@GESvids Pastor from The Woodlands arrested on child porn charges - is he saved?
@GESvids
@GESvids 2 ай бұрын
What Must I Do to be Saved? - Bob Wilkin kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y2HXiGenoLKGj7c Have you ever wondered what you must do to be saved or have everlasting life? Throughout time and in the Bible, people have asked this important question. Bob Wilkin of the Grace Evangelical Society shares what the Bible has to say about this question, and what you should do if you want to know the answer.
@dtntnw
@dtntnw Жыл бұрын
John 3:16 cannot be used, mutually exclusively, without considering the implications of Romans 1. And the 3rd Commandment, ie God's Name. The Hebrews believed, you cannot say things, that are untrue, about YHWH. LGBT's can claim John 3:16, whilst struggling, with Romans 1. Yes, YHWH, forgives. That is a horrible, defeated life to live....
@dtntnw
@dtntnw Жыл бұрын
@Alvin Fen You are making an inference. As apposed to, an Empirical Statement. When does , saving grace, 2:05 override Yeshua’s words. His words, of doing the will of my father, ie law, sin, commandments etc ““Not everyone who calls out to me, ‘Lord! Lord!’ will enter the Kingdom of Heaven. Only those WHO ACTUALLY DO THE WILL of my Father in heaven will enter.” ‭‭Matthew‬ ‭7‬:‭21‬ ‭NLT‬‬
@dtan8908
@dtan8908 Жыл бұрын
@Alvin Fen Of which, you have quoted John 12:48-50, rev 20:15, john 6:47. Validates, John 3:16. No Argument. Is it your contention ? Therefore, these are mutually exclusive statements. Be all, end all. Ignoring matt 7:21 ,..'ACTUALLY DO THE WILL of my Father in heaven will enter' And may i remind you, Yeshua goes on to say. matt 7:23 But I will reply, ‘I never knew you. Get away from me, you who BREAK GOD'S LAWS.’ Bible text, clearly shows that belief, is a primary requirement. Bible text, also shows, Yeshua ,making ,conditional statements, on who ,he considers ,to be ,his disciples. I don't think that Dr. Bob, is preaching hyper-grace, or cheap grace, but i do think. We ,have to be ,really careful, thread lightly. When we, use only, verses that confirms one's bias. The one verse that troubles me. Is in the Old Testament. YHWH is speaking directly to Moshe “Speak to all the congregation of the children of Israel, and say to them: ‘YOU SHALL BE HOLY, FOR I THE LORD YOUR GOD AM HOLY'. ~ Lev 19:2
@dtan8908
@dtan8908 Жыл бұрын
@Alvin Fen Saying faith is propositional. And therefore salvation is based on proposition's. Matt 7:21-23, John 8:24,... Again, is walking on dangerous ground. I am trained more in the technical field. Hence, i rely on benchmarks, not propositions. And i think, you are, miss-interpreting ,what i am ,trying to say. I don't believe in works ,or progressive salvation. And i will explain. Where i am coming from. In the proposition statement 'Most in Christianity believe that Jesus died on the cross for our sins and rose from the dead, but do not believe that anyone who simply believes in Him has everlasting life' versus the idea of ,law or works. Is like saying being Holy, and being Righteous, are incompatible. You cannot separate them ,these two things , work together. However, being Holy ,and being Righteous ,are not the same thing. YHWH says be Holy Lev 19:2. YHWH says if we obey HIS commandments. We will be counted as Righteous Deut 6:25. And Righteousness, can even be imputed. And Abraham believed, therefore YHWH counted him as Righteous ,because of his faith Gen 15:6. YHWH never says that we are to be Righteous. YHWH says be HOLY, in the state of HOLINESS, not imputed, or works. And the Hebrews understood ,long before ,John 3:16 was ever penned. They understood the consequences. Of not being Holy, following the Law (Romans 1 in NT context). I agree Matt 7:21 does not refer to progressive sanctification. Notice, however, the paragraph preceding 7:21. Why would Yeshua ,warn of ,false prophets, before making these statements. Of not following the Father's will ,or breaking YHWH's law. And where in Matt 7 does it ,implicitly, or explicitly ,say that ' the will of the Father' refers to believing in his Son ? Where ? In fact, again, Yeshua says ,' Get away from me, you who BREAK GOD's LAWS' Matt 7:23
@easttexan2933
@easttexan2933 3 ай бұрын
If the sacrificial blood of the Eternal God is not enough, then none of us will make it. No matter how righteous we think we are, there will always be that one little thing that we let slide and it is that one thing that makes us unrighteous in God's eyes if we are depending on our obedience and law keeping to get into the kingdom. Should we be growing in the knowledge of the Lord? Absolutely. But we will fail because of our fleshly desires. This victory is not an instantaneous moment. Our growth in the ways of the Lord should be continual but we will always miss the mark.
@teem311
@teem311 Жыл бұрын
What about conviction by the Holy Spirit of sin? Those other churches are not wrong. Don't please the world please. There is man-made religion in Christianity but don't sugar-coat people of letters.
@danielanderson2331
@danielanderson2331 4 ай бұрын
LGBTQ+ sinners saved same way as non-LGBTQ+ sinners!! Gods grace is better than any so called human merit or religious works malarkey.
@paulaivens8063
@paulaivens8063 Жыл бұрын
Our Heavenly Father God is a holy righteous judge and can’t wink at sin. By God’s grace we are saved through the cruel cross where Jesus Christ took the punishment that we deserved. But we have a free will to accept that free gift of Salvation. That means to repent, no longer living for self but after the things of God, according to His word the Bible. Jesus didn’t die on the cross for us to continue living a sinful lifestyle as we did before we were born again. There is something seriously wrong with our walk if we are not moved to change our ways, whatever the sinful practice was. We are always to strive to follow Christ’s example. God is the same, yesterday, forever He hasn’t changed His moral laws they still apply today. Jesus said if you love me, you will follow the will of My Father, as in His commandments and laws. “Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God”. (1 Corinthians 6:9-10) As with false prophets in the Bible they were popular because they told the people what they wanted to hear, a feel good message. God’s true prophets were hated because nobody wanted to hear the truth of the matter that God hates all sin. Those who don’t preach the whole counsel of God in or out of season, popular or not, will be held accountable for leading people astray. BUT the good news is that no matter what we have done or how far from God’s grace we have fallen there is a way to be part of God’s family and have the peace, joy, love and assurance of where we will spend eternity, that is to own up and tell God we have sinned, thank Jesus Christ for dying in our place and ask for His daily help to live a new life. Then enjoy a future now and for all eternity in His new kingdom. “And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God. (V11). They were homosexual, thieves, drunkards etc BUT NO MORE!! Doesn’t mean we don’t fall at times, or struggle but we know that when we are tempted or start to fall, Christ Jesus is there at the bottom to lift us up.!!🙏🥰. Taking up our cross and following Jesus isn’t easy, that’s why He said narrow is the way, to run the race and finish well. Many are called but few are chosen. Many will hate this message I speak He doesn’t desire anyone to perish neither do I, but this isn’t my word it’s from God’s Word, and He is not man that He should lie.🥰🙏
@paulaivens8063
@paulaivens8063 Жыл бұрын
@Alvin Fen Jesus is gracious and merciful, but He never ceases to be Holy. As Christ is our example for living, we too are to be set apart from the world and be holy as Christ is Holy. (That does not mean we are not tempted and even fall into sin at times, the difference is when we are tempted or we do sin, the Holy Spirit within us convicts us and we are so grievous that we fall at the Fathers feet in repentance and restoration, than we are forgiven, whatever sin that maybe). He calls us to a life of holiness and obedience to the Father, and He gives us the spiritual resources we need to walk in righteousness. John 14:21 Jesus said…He who has My Commandments and keeps them, it is he who loves Me. And he who loves Me will be loved by My Father, and I will love him and manifest Myself to him. This is one of many verses where Jesus says about following the commandments and laws. Matthew 6:12 The Lords Prayer “And forgive us our debts”. 6:13. “And do not lead us into temptation”. Jesus confirms that we are still going to be tempted and do fall into sin, so we need to pray the Lord’s Prayer daily and apply it to our lives. God’s grace is not a free to live and do as we please card. We are free to choose, but we are not free from the consequences of our choices. Sin is still sin in God’s eyes and we should not see His silence and great patience with us as acceptance to sin. That’s the wonderful thing about God’s grace no matter what we have done He is willing and able to forgive us, to no longer live for ourselves but pleasing to the Father and be part of His family and spend eternity in the new heaven and earth prepared for those who know and love Him. As God’s word says…”Choose this day, whose side you are on”. ( Everlasting in context are on condition that we are walking’ according to the scriptures.).
@emaramify
@emaramify 4 ай бұрын
WOW. Teach people how to read the Bible. The Bible is not hard. The "smart people are the ones that know the truth" and the only ones that can read the Bible and tell you what it means. Learn to read it slowly and in context. Read each Gospel. And each letter. Learn the basics. What is the Gospel. Mat 4:23. What did the Jews understand when Jesus proclaimed the Gospel of he kingdom. Learn what is the trinity. Really understand the deity of the trinity.
@truthseekers1620
@truthseekers1620 6 ай бұрын
by believing on the Lord Jesus Christ the same as everyone else through Christ
@user-zp2lv6yj9n
@user-zp2lv6yj9n 7 ай бұрын
Romans one seems to disagree with you , dont throw things that are holy to the dogs or cast your pearls before swine , beware of the dogs , lest you be reprobate .
@1DarkNinja58
@1DarkNinja58 7 ай бұрын
When you truly understand what you are doing is sin and you need a savior because you cant fix it on your own come to Jesus in submission to him. Surrender totally to him and accept him and you will transformed in newness of life as it says in Romans 6:21. How can you be truly sorry for your sins and still put them above your Lord and savior? Cast down idols (which can be practices) that go against his word. Accept him and submit to him. Let him abide in you and protect you. Step by step praying to be drawn closer to God. 2 Timothy 4:3-4 The time will come when people will turn away from truth to seek pastors who pervert the word of God to make people feel good about their sin. Like this man who tells you unrepentant sin has nothing to do with salvation. Jesus loves you and I love you, please understand this man left out many parts of scripture that deal with repentance and take a moment to look into it. Don't stop your journey to God here with this video. There is so much more. Keep searching for the truth and make sure its backed up by scripture.
@DannyLoyd
@DannyLoyd 2 ай бұрын
Bob believes that you can be a homosexual and still be saved, no repentance. Bob believes you are saved by faith alone and he believes in OSAS, so if you believe and you are a homosexual, Bob believes you are saved.
@teem311
@teem311 Жыл бұрын
God didn't create people of letters, they made themselves. I hope you don't think murderers are made like that.
@siwalton8913
@siwalton8913 3 ай бұрын
You forgot one little thing... FAITH WITHOUT WORKS " IS DEAD " !!
@GESvids
@GESvids 3 ай бұрын
Do You Fear a Dead Faith? - James 2:14-26 by Bob Wilkin kzbin.info/www/bejne/m2bTZpeMiqp9qbs Is the Faith that Saves Ever Alone? - James 2 - Ken Yates kzbin.info/www/bejne/q5PQfnmfndeel9U
@shawnlauderdale6502
@shawnlauderdale6502 6 ай бұрын
Jesus said "go and sin no more".
@jjphank
@jjphank Жыл бұрын
By repenting, and believing in Jesus, and overcoming their sin! OSAS- 3 verses in the Bible say your name can be blotted out of the book of life; Psalm 69:28, revelation 3:5, 22:19! Never receiving Jesus is not the only way to go to hell Says Matthew 7:21-23 ; verse 23 ‘away from me I never knew you’ does not apply to everybody, Jesus says this twice in verses 21 and 22! “Not everyone will say to me (on that day)……., yes many will say…..” If OSAS was true he would’ve said “everyone and all” instead of “not everyone and Many”! So not everyone will go to hell based on never knowing Jesus, and other verses will back this up as well! you can no longer use Matthew 7:23 or say they were never saved to begin with! Same with 2 Peter 2 “after knowing the Lord, they went back into their vomit as a dog; or back into the mud as a pig wallowing in the mud”. The word ‘knowing’ is the same word in Matthew 7:23, it’s ‘ginosko’ in the Greek- it’s a salvific relationship with Jesus! So you can lose your salvation, says this verse as well! 2 Peter 2:20 “If they have escaped the corruption of the world by knowing our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and are again entangled in it and are overcome, they are worse off at the end than they were at the beginning!” THEY ARE ENTANGLED IN THE CORRUPTION OF THE WORLD…AGAIN- says this verse! Jude 12 - “twice dead”; Dead in sin, born again, dead again! And there’s many more; Revelation chapters 2 & 3 are full of ultimatums and all Jesus is focused on is our works! Revelation 2: 5 Consider how far you have fallen! Repent and do the things you did at first. If you do not repent, I will come to you and remove your lampstand from its place! Revelation 2:14 there are some among you….. 16 Repent therefore! Otherwise, I will soon come to you and will fight against them with the sword of my mouth. These are just 2 and Jesus says “he who overcomes” , Overcomes is present - future tense, and Jesus says this to all 7 churches even the 2 good ones! You have to stay faithful to the end of your life to go to heaven! John 3:16 is he who continues to believe will have eternal life! it doesn’t say ‘believed’ past tense, you have to maintain your faith to go to heaven! The Greek word ‘believes’ is ‘Pistis’ which basically means faithfulness so faith equals faithfulness, according to the Bible! So if you have problems with this, then you have problems with the word of God, the Bible! You need to study these passages so that you can make it to heaven! If your pastor cannot answer these questions according to what I just said, then you need to leave that church!
@jjphank
@jjphank 11 ай бұрын
@alvinfen4511 keep talking to me so we can fix the problem! you can’t tell somebody how to get saved, you use half the Bible I use the whole Bible! To prove it, refute my first message with all those verses, I mentioned, & this message! You didn’t do that!! When Jesus is lifted up, he’ll draw all men to himself - John 12:32, that’s why we give the gospel message to all people! God wants all men to be saved first Timothy 2:4, second peter 3:9! God, predestines groups or plurals only, never individuals. Ephesians 1 -2 points: “ us and we” are pre-destined never “you and I“! And 11 times in 11 verses from 3-14 you have to remain “in Christ“ (in him, in whom) to be predestined! Romans 9:1-3 Paul is talking about the nation of Israel, all the way to the end of chapter 11 ! So, “Jacob, I loved, Esau I hated“ is genesis 25:23 “there are two nations in your womb“! It’s talking about ‘Nations,’ not individuals in the whole context of those three chapters! Stop taking it out of context, along with Ephesians 1! Of course, we have the story of Jacob and Esau and how Esau despised his birthright ! So God truly does love all people, he truly did make hell for the devil and his angels just as Matthew 25:41 says ! Even the 42 youths, mauled by the 2 bears, was because they mocked Elijah‘s rapture, a.k.a. the resurrection , they were saying “go on up Baldy “ ; and ALL their prophets just recently Were killed by Elijah and they should’ve known to stop worshiping Baal! Bethel was the headquarters of Baal worship, where this took place! 490 priests got killed by Elijah, There was no Priests around,; should’ve been a gigantic clue. So God never arbitrarily and haphazardly deals with any human being ! His love cannot be measured says Romans 8! But if you’re a Calvinists it’s “his love cannot be measured , (Wink, wink)“! Come out of the false belief system of Calvinism ! Now you have no excuse because you cannot out argue this, let’s hear you try! Read Matthew 25 the parable of the Calvinists, a.k.a. talents ! Where the guy buried his talent calling God,- somebody who doesn’t judge rightly & he was thrown into hell as a result! He had the wrong view of God, & So Will a Calvinist, they’ll have a callous view of God & The love of Christs sacrificial death on the cross!
@paulvanderveen4309
@paulvanderveen4309 10 ай бұрын
Don't get me wrong, I believe LGBTQ is a sin (every single letter of that acronym stands for sin). However, preaching that the gay person must "stop being gay" to be saved is blatant works based salvation [Ephesians 2:8-9]. None of us have "stopped sinning". We will all sin until we die. Repenting or turning from all of our sins is impossible. So the gay person can be gay all he wants and still be saved, according to the Bible. Also, a gay person isn't justified by the deeds of the law (such as not being gay) [Romans 3:28]. I'm not giving LGBTQ people I license to sin, though. They should still "stop being LGBTQ" though, in honor for God. I am almost certain this is not a sin that God would leave unchastised or uncorrected in the life of a believer [Hebrews 12:6-8]. Sadly, many people in the LGBTQ community are in denial that their lifestyle is sinful. Most of them are under a "double heresy" 1) because their lifestyle is sinful, but they don't want to admit it --- and find every reason to pick arguments with the Bible through biased interpretation 2) because even if they did realize their lifestyle is sinful, they would "repent of it", just like the people who believe in "repenting of your sins to be saved", so their salvation proves to be a works-based one. Not all LGBTQ professing Christians are under this "double heresy" but I believe many of them are. Even if they believed in Free Grace, I still think there's a good chance they would defend their sexual orientation so that they can claim to willfully live a godly lifestyle.
@Oyakat88
@Oyakat88 5 ай бұрын
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