How Artists Grow Over Time (ft. Cesar Santos)

In this episode we talk $h!t about Old Masters. Just kidding… We respectfully analyze how artists have grown throughout history. Cesar Santos and I visit the San Diego Museum of Art to talk about what artists know now that some of the Old Masters didn’t. We also sit down to do a master study drawing of a Sargent painting!
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Credits
Producer - Stan Prokopenko (www.stanprokopenko.com)
Artist - Cesar Santos (www.santocesar.com)
Editing - Brandon Storer, Stan Prokopenko
Production Assistance, Camera - Brandon Storer, Valentina Santos
Music Used with Permission
About Proko:
Instructional How to Draw videos for artists. My drawing lessons are approachable enough for beginners and detailed enough for advanced artists. My philosophy is to teach timeless concepts in an entertaining way. I believe that when you are having fun, you learn better. I take pride in producing high quality videos that you will enjoy watching and re-watching.
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[@ProkoTV]

Check out my museum tour with Cesar Santos over on his channel: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nHzNfWmvjrpqg5I Be sure to subscribe too!

[@Drawing-photography]

Proko great video great teachers who can still have fun 👍

[@wolf7379]

From frame: 10:53 - where you are holding Cesar Santos' sketch book - there is a painting of a woman's face in his sketch book. Please tell me, what medium did he use to paint that on his sketch book page? Was it a gouache medium? By the way, I have seen many of your videos but this was a truly an enjoyable video to watch!!! Both you and Cesar Santos were great in this video - both entertaining and very informative. Love this video and I love your work! Thank you! I will watch your next video with Cesar Santos. I agree with some of the comments here. You two could make this into a real television programme - going to art museums and discussing work and showing your art!

[@Ven3z01an0]

check out Cesar Santos sketchbook tours on his channel, i believe it is the very first episode has that sketchbook and how he did it - with gesso on the page then oil painting.

[@austinschlichtman3136]

This art Bromance is highly entertaining!

[@DEMIntern]

Oh man, please do more of these!

[@AlioilA.Studio]

PLEASE MORE !

[@JustOrgil]

“Too deep for me man” “That’s what she said” 😂😂

[@zacharytatom283]

Watching arguably the greatest oil painter alive make a "that's what she said" joke has killed me and brought me back to life all at the same time

[@fadblegun6828]

You guys should defiantly go to more museums together!! I love the fun you both are having, and great points in the discussions!

[@KimCyunHi]

+1

[@Ugitron217]

Stan and Cesar feel like they're on completely different levels of thinking it's so cool to see them disagree and argue their points to the other

[@advocatesp7559]

proko's personality is so warming and humble. like someone nice you can always relate to.

[@brylidan]

this should be a series

[@veganjotaro]

i was literally drawing while listening to them, it was so good, i even felt like I was painting better. (painting digitally by the way) i really enjoyed this video a lot.

[@devenloomis3240]

joseph's daughter's son nice. I was practicing composition.

[@devindandurand8218]

The art is amazing but the chemistry these to have is unmatched. I would love to see more.

[@beckycoburn1]

@Proko at the 7 min mark I saw it totally different the colors of the solder are healthy and the sick man is near death with the small angelic child behind him. To me the story was the death of a father or king. THANK YOU for doing this!

[@fadblegun6828]

I love all these videos that you and Cesar have made, I think its always great to have a friend come along for the journey, things just get so much more interesting:) And what a great contrast you two are, Proko more calculated while Cesar almost spiritual.

[@bigcat514]

Really like how honest both of you was during the sketching, really encurage doodlers like myself. 👌🏻

[@sarastanoeska4618]

I think I just went up 6 levels as an artist just by watching this video. More like this, please!

[@melcryarfineart]

Two masters! Y'all are adorable. Very entertaining and fun and educational.

[@conqistador44]

could watch these two all day, huge insights

[@rexgrl3]

I love the fact that you guys are learning from each other!

[@Contrapunctus1750]

I think a bit of art historical perspective is needed here. Stylistic differences between artists whose works span centuries shouldn't be viewed as mistakes or shortcomings. Lucas Cranach the Younger wasn't a primitive painter just because he didn't paint the way Caesar Santos does. That would be like an abstract painter saying Santos' work is faulty because it's "too realistic" and "not abstract enough."

[@PeppoMusic]

Definitely. Historical perspective on the usage and availability of materials and influence of contemporary tastes of clients should also not be ignored. Context is everything.

[@Tedzee8]

I m happy to see you both and feel like, no great artist is perfect at every point and still learn all life long

[@sherrierichard2848]

Loved your different way of seeing and noticing things in the different paintings before you started drawing the Sargent.Would love to see you both drawing together again and again. You are both so talented!! Hearing your conversational banter was informing too. It's a BOY!!! that was funny.

[@ilyakuzmenko6723]

Goddam.. two my favorite artists together!!!! My respect to you fallows!

[@TheHostofHeaven]

you guys are adorable!!!! Such weird, talented people! So interesting to see ya'll interact. Good vibes!!!!

[@fransende]

it was great to see two great artists sharing their knowledge and techniques with each other, please do more :)

[@bushmummy]

I love your tutes and art!...I also admire Cesar Santos. The interviews with you two was soooo interesting. Another artist/teacher I love is Muraljoe. Yes...his work is so different from yours but he is no less a wonderful teacher and I love his mural tutes even though I will never do a mural. It would be great if you 3 could get together and discuss your different approaches and talents for fine art, working in your different mediums and styles. You all have very pleasing personalities and exceptional talents and for those of us who cannot attend your lessons, we thank you for putting out these wonderful little vids.

[@skycabfive]

This is awesome! Thank you for this! I luckily grew up in a place surrounded by great museums. And may shed some light on why the color might look off on otherwise fantastic paintings. First, the particular pigment may have gotten discolored over time. In the 16th century, blue pigment was VERY rare. And the initial elements used to make them didn’t retain their vibrancy and hue, and may have reacted poorly with other pigments causing discoloration over time. And second (and this is likely true of the first painting from the 16th century) the colors may have been restored/repaired/replaced. This could also be the case of why the skin tones in the 2nd painting look so different from each other. Parts that have been drastically faded or discolored may have been restored. Just an idea. Again, thank you! I’m really enjoying this series! :-)

[@hunmiliengtipi9218]

Thanks for the info.

[@ulisesrobles27]

this is so awesome man please do a full series on this museum tours.

[@dhammadasa2563]

Just love your art vids man!

[@carolferguson5467]

I loved this so much. Thanks guys

[@azalea1404]

That was an excellent point you made, Stan, at 05:03 - 07:00 about the color- and light differences between the two people's arms, in various parts of the drapery, and the reflection light, and how those color errors ruin the cohesiveness of the painting. You are indeed right, these "mistakes" make the painting look a bit amateurish, despite these techniques might have been part of a painting trend that were taught back then. Thanx for pinpointing that.

[@ziltoidtheomniscient2398]

Cesar is too fucking cool. The best museum buddy around!

[@tn7156]

This was awesome. More of these would be amazing

[@paul_domici]

This is great! It's my new favorite thing to do! Draw at the metropolitan museum! I usually draw statues!

[@digocr]

This is the very best art lesson video ever!

[@procrast]

this is great! you and cesar together, what a team!

[@beckycoburn1]

Loved it! Thank you for sharing and inspiring me!

[@swimmingwithsharks7331]

You guys have good chemistry in describing composition and a piece that makes sense,...excellent,...keep up the good work.

[@jackjocques]

24:40 when all is said and done, that's a boy! really cracks me up.

[@bastonero7572]

2 of my favorite artists collaborating! 😊

[@meldixon1918]

This was a fun collab, thanks to you both!

[@iremar_fitness]

U guys are awesome together!

[@dezukaful]

This is one of the dopest colabs

[@n3bie]

getting goose pimples from the information overload contained in their casual conversation

[@zablujnc]

I like how the format of the Bouguereau makes it look like a window or door frame. Adds to the story imo.

[@Thebeatles10940]

Love this! Def getting that little charcoal tool.

[@m.i.miller8008]

awesome.. drew along with you guys...love the charcoal dust idea.

[@anamark143]

I LOVE proko!!

[@Reach3DPrinters]

Soooo good and also very fun. Thanks guys.

[@Psychosocial_cracker]

13:22 the look of sheer focus on Cesar’s face😂😂

[@snoot6629]

this needs to be a series

[@PirateSometimes]

i love this, more like this please

[@gerimi]

Holy crap! You just taught me how to use a lead pointer!!!!! Thanks.

[@amats3]

Would love to see more of these while you converse. Only Cesar Santos is allowed to use pan pastels in a museum! Lol ☺️

[@OpisCossack]

Learned quite a few things from this video, thanks :)

[@sol303]

This is a art class show it’s so fun to watch

[@NoahGibbs]

Oh! I didn't know that about the guides for sharpening the mechanical pencil. Oh man, I need to do that!

[@sollc1708]

It's so difficult to draw children!! I enjoyed your video. Brings me back to my Fine Arts degree!

[@pnutdraws]

i Hope 1 day , Cesar & Santos going to museum becomes a series

[@AngelFrancoart]

Me encanta este video dos artistas famosos de KZbin en un museo !

[@razorback7828]

Great video, it was eye candy and very "feel good" energy.

[@jeremiahpratt2492]

Thank you Proko for showing me how to properly use a Mars Technico! xD

[@lisengel2498]

It was so interesting to watch you draw together = very inspiring

[@fbpliegorrivero8869]

Amazing you two! Should hang out together more often and discuss art 🎨

[@dannycruz5446]

Loved the twist at the end..just like The Crying Game lol

[@SebastianTinajero]

LOVE watching both of you and your channels I’m so glad you guys ended up collaborating and I hope you guys do more in the near future!! Also “ THATS A BOY?” Cracked me up I thought it was a girl as well haha

[@jamesburnett4113]

awesome channel!!

[@zepps88]

Man, I wish I could go to a museum with you guys.

[@tektakin]

These conversations :D:D I love this video

[@BrandonWorkshop]

Brilliant

[@anthonywyndham]

There's a bouguereau in the South Australian Art Gallery I was so excited when I walked in and saw it.. both of you should come to adelaide for a MAster class at my school Called CDW studios :)

[@samuelmayorga1950]

this was AMAZING

[@marwamohammed3137]

Great vedio, I'd like to see more of these

[@nikkiswenson54]

I love the fun in Art! Yep, I totally seen him as a girl too!!

[@tomiVM89]

You guys are so funny together

[@valken666]

In his book Lives of the Most Eminent Painters, Sculptors, and Architects, Giorgio Vasari noted that Michelangelo stated once: "Those who are followers can never pass by whom they follow".

[@valken666]

I mean, not to sound negative. Michelangelo himself started by copying drawings from churches, but at some point you have to let go and start seeking your own ideal.

[@bookle5829]

Glad that you put no music while you draw. I can put a calm jazz piano music in the background.

[@santiyi]

Two men crazy for the art, lost in the museum!

[@advancedfirefly]

Where can I get that compressed charcoal and stick applicator that Cesar used?

[@weiland24]

advancedfirefly its this I'm pretty sure. www.panpastel.com/about.html

[@advancedfirefly]

Δtreyu what about the tool to spread it on?

[@boscorner]

I saw one just yesterday at blick art supply

[@emre28oz79]

Maybe that's what artist tries to comm. they are not in the same dimension so the don't reflect light to each other .👍🏻these videos are fun . Good job.

[@tejedaAlex]

Awesome video, close ups to the drawing are out focus though, thanks for sharing.

[@mikecastro2894]

El gran boxeador de la pintura

[@Jusseppe]

Man, I just wanna hang out with Cesar.

[@BlacknWhite_Knowledge]

Omg my both favourite artists together I always follow you guys specially proko Do you guys know each other from your academic days?

[@santocesart]

Umesh Mishra I learned about Proko, as i was searching for good structure information here on KZbin.

[@lord-licht]

John? Who is John? I was crying, y'all. But honestly I'd watch 10 hours of these two in museums. Entertaining, inspiring and informative. And a dash of gender non-conformity? What more could we ask for.

[@catherinefrederick3184]

What was the tool that they used along with the compressed charcoal?

[@miblert3717]

13:40 dayum son"

[@MyiniaArt]

Very interessting

[@raggaeldestro]

I stop using those led holders because I kept breaking the lead. Thanks for the info.

[@kaytutu8487]

Nice background music in the introduction

[@MrBrendanRizzo]

Only Proko could get away with this.

[@Argadeux]

good video 👌🏼

[@jimmyrochette7536]

Never seen the use of those intrument i don't think i will use them because i hate messy medium but it good to see there option i wasn't even aware of them.

[@EreneyMc]

The end is mind blowing :))) That girl is actually a boy

[@ThugHunt7]

It's a trap

[@MarkWhippy]

Yeah in the past young boys were dressed in gowns and had long hair, until a certain age where they would have their 'breeching'. There's a famous photo of Franklin Roosevelt dressed like this.

[@EreneyMc]

Thank you for the info!

[@guillaumep7660]

I can't be the only one who scrambled to my graphite sharpener and tried out the 2 measuring holes with awe and amazement. Right...?

[@ButchCurry]

I knew about the two holes already, but that's only because I took drafting and architecture classes back before such things were all done in CAD. I just want to know what that little tool they were using to apply the charcoal was! (Edit: After reading down further in the comments, I see now it's not charcoal, it's PanPastel and comes with the little applicator. Neat!)

[@matoussverak5320]

May I ask which kind of sharpener it is? In the art supplies in my country there are not sharpeners like that!

[@ButchCurry]

It's a Staedtler Mars lead pointer for 2mm drafting pencils. Order it online or look at a place that sells drafting supplies rather than art supplies.

[@larrypierce9189]

You and Andrew Tischler are my new KZbin Artiste Compadres!

[@imnooneh]

Do It again with Cesar and marshall stannnnnnnnnmnmmmmmm it would be so coll

[@sebastianarango9179]

hahahahah thats what she said, one of the best ive heard

[@alijabbar5301]

الاثنين مبدعين...علي جبار ارت من العراق

[@mouseking7809]

Great video. Please include the charcoal and applicator in the description.

[@Petrrific]

Search for "Panpastel" tools

[@MrProfessorElias]

What is that tool used to spread the charcoal? Is it a small palette knife with foam attached to it? I haven't veen able to find it

[@adrianvelasco1798]

It's a soft knife by PanPastel. They're pretty cheap on amazon

[@MrProfessorElias]

Adrian Velasco Thank you