How Assassin's Creed Ruined Their Modern Day Story

[@DegenerateJay]

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[@voltronlegendaryguardiansl7261]

Well, unfortunately, and Generally Speaking, this's what realistically happens when you don't have intelligently competent people that even have a cohesively unified plan and a singularly unified direction for said Franchises such as Assassin's Creed in and of itself, when you've got Creators and Fan-Bases that're too pathologically fickle and separately divided on matters such as these to even have a sense of what they even 'necessarily' 'want' and/or 'wholeheartedly' 'need' IP(s) such as Assassin's Creed to even honestly do and to even genuinely be in any critically analytical way and in any clearly precise manner, and when you don't even bother to actively look at Series such as Assassin's Creed from any other standpoint(s) and perspective(s) to even creatively make a criticism and analysis on such as from any sort of factually truthful standpoint and from any type of objectively impartial perspective(s) as well either. (Amongst many other things, matters, and criticisms.). But, ultimately, and all in all, this's just another video of yours that's pointlessly useless and worthlessly meaningless to have even done in the first place once again, as not only don't you even bother to do things such as to even practically figure out why any one such as UbiSoft and its General Audiences would inevitably become apathetically different towards Assassin's Creed and its Modern Day, but you guys don't even bother to do things such as to even questionably challenge and critically judge games such as Assassin's Creed II and The Ezio Trilogy-Series and Assassin's Creed: Unity for more often than not proactively contributing to said apathy and said indifference towards said Modern Day, as those very games rarely if ever did anything w/h their own personal Modern Day Section(s) and its characters beyond a Surface Level Of Things and ultimately wastes every single bit of its potential for said Modern Day Section(s) in and of themselves (Such as when they could've possibly done things such as hospitably give us missions to do around Earth to reactively test every single one of our skills and to not only just constantly leave us within The Animus itself and to not have us actually stuck within nations such as Italy itself on a frequently daily basis. (And that's no different than what they previously did with other games such as Assassin's Creed III w/h its own Modern Day Section(s) and its characters beforehand.).), and intentionally sidelined said Modern Day Section(s) to such an extent that almost no one if not no one had any sort of interest within said Modern Day at all and treated said Modern Day as a Red-Headed Knock-Off and as The Unwanted Child that people didn't even want around them from its original inception all the way up 'til now in such an rudely disrespectful fashion. And, so, all of this comes off as if you and everyone else are purposefully doing things such as that you and everyone else are reactively being naively blind and cluelessly tone-deaf to every single one of these very problems by trying to falsely lie about UbiSoft and that they're the only ones at fault for all of these very issues about matters such as Assassin's Creed and its Modern Day when that isn't even close to being the case nor the genuinely honest truth at all in such an predictably tiresome way, and that they have no one but themselves to truly blame for said problems and said issues in such an narrow-mindedly simple-minded manner and in such an dishonestly insincere fashion overall, and also, altogether as well.

[@degeneratetrump3057]

Ubisoft not knowing what to do with their products is just a common problem unfortunately

[@DegenerateJay]

Ubisoft when their own fans understand their characters better than they do 🤯

[@jacobharrington3200]

​@@DegenerateJay i think greed played a big part of it and i stopped playing after 3 but after 2 i was hooked onto their games but ac died after desmond and their gimmick is different tine periods

[@jacobharrington3200]

​@@DegenerateJay i think greed played a big part of it and i stopped playing after 3 but after 2 i was hooked onto their games but ac died after desmond and their gimmick is different tine periods

[@visionary1138]

They made such a big mistake with Desmond in ending his story like that with no continuation other than some comics

[@badfoody]

I cheered when Desmond died Boring

[@andyowski5021]

​@@badfoodySorry for your bad taste bro

[@matthiasneidenberger9471]

I kinda wish they hinted at a way for him to come back-like him being near dead and not full dead-or at least say his consciousness was somehow in the animus. It would be some flimsy excuse but for several games we don’t even see the assassin that replaces him, so just making it him wouldn’t be any worse and I think there’s some interesting things you can do with that, like protecting the computer he’s in as one of his team members in the modern segments .

[@calebterry8747]

@@matthiasneidenberger9471From what I remember his consciousness is still roaming around helping other assassins in the future. It’s in the comics tho so nobody out side of fans of the game will pay attention.

[@DegenerateJay]

Yeah they left his consciousness around in a way and they've introduced pieces of Eden that are traded to have the ability to possibly resurrect people too. The door is still cracked on that character but if they brought him back they'd have to progress their story so idk if they want to do that.

[@Demsky83]

I thought the natural progression of the story was for Desmond to translate the skills he learned in the Animus and take on Abstergo in the modern day. Sadly it never happened.

[@jit1709]

ig they kinda did in ac3 but it’s a shame that they decided to end that in the same game

[@Willusive]

Another interesting Ubisoft crossover is that an Animus appears in a map in Rainbow Six Siege. The game’s “bad guy” PMC ‘Nighthaven’ has a base which is depicted as a playable map in the game and it features a room in the basement with an Animus inside with a talking AI voice making references to spending too long within the animus causing harm. There’s another map set in Italy called ‘Villa’ with links to Assassin’s Creed and even a tiny Ezio sprite visible on a rooftop in the distance. Combine that with Siege’s Ghost Recon Wildlands and Breakpoint crossovers AND the fact that the coffee shop chain from Watch_Dogs appears on a different map ‘Bank’, and it seems like all modern day Ubi games are connected in some way.

[@cathylickpriest7775]

I believe Far Cry also has some hidden Abstergo labeled crates in FC 3 Or 4 but every time someone asked Ubisoft about this stuff they said it was non canon Easter eggs or some other nonsense.

[@TheGreatRenbox]

It has an entire abstergo facility in one of the DLCs for 3​@@cathylickpriest7775

[@TheSauceYouGetLostin]

The modern day segments were a break from the short story of the game to tell another longer story. In that sense it feels like they were building Desmond to be the ultimate assassin. He started out as an average Joe in the first game that left the brotherhood. 2nd-4th game they use the bleeding affect to give him Ezios skills. By AC 3 he is a top tier assassin that has kind of perfected the bleeding and is obtaining Connor's skills on top of Ezios. Then they take that ultimate assassin and just end him. They were getting closer and closer to modern day and making modern day bigger in their games and then just ripped it away. I think they had a bigger plan for Desmond, he was supposed to get a modern world game where he was the main character and he brought down the modern day templars. I can't think of any logical reason for them not to do that. Doing Desmond like they did felt like a "it's no longer about the story, it's about the money" statement

[@DubboU]

Felt like? It WAS about the money.

[@mobbs6426]

"Oh, you thought we were telling a story? Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. My sweet summer child. You seem to have really taken to this franchise. We can milk this puppy for another decade, plus."

[@chillyman7340]

There was a video about where Nolan North the voice actor of Desmond said that he saw the full script for Desmond and he said that Desmond was supposed to get all the skills from his ancestors like you said, he got Altair, Ezio, Haythem and Connors skills so by the end of AC 3 he had the skills of a Master Assassin but of course they killed him off for a stupid reason, from what I heard is that we were supposed to get more games with Desmond than we got because for the whole of AC Revelations he was in a coma and then he met his Brother Subject 16 in the grey which is apparently where his consciences is now because you meet him at the end of AC Valhalla.

[@TomCatPlus]

They made a mistake by making it into Historical Fiction (From Science Fiction). There's an Interview with Nolan North about the original script of Assassin's Creed. Like the Bleeding Effect was supposed to be a Time Travel type of thing where Desmond would tap into The Abilities of Previous Assassins

[@Steel-101]

Yeah I lost interest in the modern part of the story after they killed off Desmond and Lucy. I loved those characters. “Hey wassa matta with you Altair” lol 😂. The chemistry with the original crew was so entertaining. Plus Seans humor was the best.

[@DegenerateJay]

Yeah they were all really fun. It's sad to see where it went in that regard 😢

[@GTTB-227]

And I'm pissed because of it. The modern day storyline moves forward 1% each game at a time, sometimes it doesn't even move at all. I want the modern day storyline to matter, to have an ending, not just a plot device, but then again this is friggin Ubisoft...

[@tonysno790]

ive actually been dying to know what happened to the modern day portion of the assassins creed after desmond died

[@visionary1138]

For a while it was in limbo and they finished a bunch of it off in comics and supplementary materials instead of the games. Then they tried to revive it in the RPG era

[@Grandtemplar305]

So much an if u a fan u will be mad that kill juno in a comic book all that potential to waste

[@MetalJT24]

​@Grandtemplar305 Much like the build up to the end of the world storyline.

[@gigaman9548]

Alot, juno got resurrected and made her cult grow into an army, with desmond's son Elijah (a sage) as one of the leaders. Eventually she was killed by an assassin and Elijah, but now it's in limbo.

[@gigaman9548]

​@Grandtemplar305 bro i know, especially bringing desmond's son into the story.

[@brucebane04]

Ubisoft not taking the opportunity to make their own “cinematic gaming verse” or whatever will forever be a huge writing mistake on their part bc apparently the new ghost recon, splinter cell, & rainbow stories all take place in the same timeline or whatever

[@lampoviytvoy195]

Short term cash grab vs long term success, some things never change.

[@musicluver281]

Great video, I have been wanting to listen to a deep dive on this topic for a while.

[@jde7052]

I love the Assassins Creed modern day, one of my favorite aspects of the story, and why AC 3 is my most replayed game is just to play the Desmond Sections over and over. I prefer the ancestors but I’m still happy with the new Animus finding and collecting DNA or using it from Abstergo database of other people ancestors. I’m not looking forward to the new Modern Day but I hope to still read more of it in the comics even though it is a shame it’s mostly in the comics and has been such a light presence in the game. Especially with how interesting the Basim events looked, I’m not looking forward to what sounds like a time skip, I wish we could’ve played it through, but I hope I still get to see those events somewhere.

[@matthiasneidenberger9471]

I’m actually curious what a modern assassins creed would look like. What do you guys think it would look like? I can picture how it could work in Nazi occupied France or 1940s Japan, but a full modern Assassins Creed campaign is uncharted territory for them.

[@handsome_oaf]

Modern day story was THE story for me, back in the day. I think they fumbled it big in AC3. I wanted a full Desmond-only game

[@mobbs6426]

You and me both. The historical stuff is great, but I wanted it to all collide around Desmond and the gang. Present, past, and super-past. 2 was as close as we came with the messenger twist.

[@chillyman7340]

@@mobbs6426 The thing is. Desmond's story was only a small part of a much bigger story because the Assassins Brotherhood has many different factions and is in many locations, this is something they need to focus on in the modern day because there are many more artifacts and pieces of Eden scattered all over the world and this was something that was stated in the very first game after you defeat Al Mualim.

[@EternalNightingale]

Since AC2 was supposed to be a one and done game for ezio before they made the change to do yearly releases and do filler in between I think the Desmond story would’ve been way better if it went straight to AC3 after ac2 and no in between, plus I remember seeing a video that Lucy wasn’t originally planned to be a double agent and rather only did that cause her VA was only contracted for 3 planned AC games so when brotherhood came out they had to end her story there when it should’ve been for AC3, can only imagine the original plan they had for Desmond back in 2007…

[@Tehillim29]

1 story that Ubisoft should have kept too, connected with Brotherhood to have Desmond Miles to find Eve, it sounded like the ISU wanted them reunited, so Desmond/Adam and whoever he finds to be the Eve.

[@DravenLS]

Didn't Desmond come back in Valhalla as 'The Reader'? I would have loved a story branching off from that. Part human, part animus, being able to replicate and maybe even physically become any ancestor of anybody who has simply been connected to an animus. What a badass character that would be.

[@cathylickpriest7775]

Yeah he’s just barely around but he’s sort of a transcended digital being type of character existing in the grey

[@chillyman7340]

They brought Basim back from the dead so I am sure that if they find Desmond's body they should be a way that they can bring him back to life but there is a slim chance of that happening.

[@gabrielandjavierpinales3689]

Honestly Desmond Storyline was very interesting. At the start Desmond was like us the players, confused and wanting to know what's going on. After the first game he's starting to progress into a very important character who's meant to do more than saving humanity. But helping the assassins to win against abstergo. Since Patrice Desilets was forced out of Ubisoft out of creative differences. The series after Revelations was strayed and his ending was changed.

[@hughmunguss5338]

I thought they were leading also towards Aiden Pierce. At least crossing over more with the assassin brotherhood considering he was contacted by them to do a job. I don't know if I necessarily thought he would be an assassin but I thought they would at least tie it in.

[@josephbugeja3208]

Of course they gave up, they initially pivoted to a modern day, assassins Creed project turned into watch dogs, then after the first game got released to critical “meh” for being too broody Ubisoft hard pivoted to the polar extreme opposite of completely unserious Memes centric story telling in WD2 where nothing having consequences, No one had any motivations and no one cared about any of these charactertipes whatsoever they were completely hollow. Then in response to *that criticism* just Ubisoft completely gave up on telling any kind of real story outside of establishing a skeleton of something resembling a story around the Beginning & the Ending of the game & just told the audience to just make up the rest of the story that goes on in their heads and make up whatever character & head canon they want in Watch_Dogs Legion. Then when they understandably didn’t get any buzz around a game with no content, they just put the hands up, completely threw in the towel & permanently putting the WD IP on ice.. 🤨

[@cathylickpriest7775]

Good old Ubisoft 😂 what a company

[@MetalJT24]

By having a yearly game and Ubisoft can't keep up with continuity of their stories.

[@chillyman7340]

It worked for long enough time, the only issues is that now we might only get an AC game every 4-7 years because of the Big open world RPG direction they went in.

[@Freelancer837]

The problem is that Assassin's Creed was supposed to just be a trilogy. AC1, AC2, and AC3 (not the AC3 we got). AC3 was supposed to be a mostly fully modern day game (with probably still flashbacks because AC2 setup how Desmond could basically see memories without the animus on accident now). But AC Brotherhood was made as a test by Ubisoft to see "Can we make a successful AC game in only a year" and when it worked, that was when Assassin's Creed died. Because the creator was gone, his plans were thrown out, and AC became a yearly slop series. I'm not even saying Brotherhood or some of the ones after AC2 are all bad games, but they were gimped by being unplanned and done solely for profit and not for the vision the passionate creator wanted.

[@TheCephalon]

I don’t feel any sympathy for fans. Mario and Zelda fans enjoy each game in a vacuum for its own story and gameplay. Most of the games don’t tie together or continue a story, so why should other franchises like AC need to be bothered by continuity. Enjoy each game in a vacuum for its own story and gameplay

[@newdawnhorizon9879]

​​@@TheCephalon You can't really do that since ubisoft keeps flip flopping on continuity and treats AC as a over arching story

[@thephantommusic]

You guys have literally said everything about these 2 series that I have thought since 2014 when Watch Dogs came out, love the videos

[@DegenerateJay]

I really appreciate it! Tbh I love both series and I'm just disappointed with how some of these aspects have been handled. Hope you enjoy the videos that are yet to come as well!

[@thephantommusic]

@@DegenerateJay I love both series as well. Ubisoft has a knack for making really cool ideas and story arcs, then shitcans them just because their shareholders didn't like sales numbers, or because an actor asks for more money and it makes the director kill her character off because they can't just remodel her face (Lucy), that'd be too much money for Moneybags Ubiquitous Software 😂

[@munkydreads]

The biggest problem with AC's modern-day story was finishing the whole juno storyline onto graphic novels rather than in games

[@chillyman7340]

Technically her story is not over, she still exists in the grey so they could bring her back, the only issue is that she was the games main antagonist back then, now they don't really have anyone who is the main antagonist.

[@dr_kopic]

Thanks for a great video Jay!

[@thespade3577]

Maybe Oliver wanted an out and had Aiden fake his death

[@chillyman7340]

Could be true maybe he was convinced by the Brotherhood that he was on the wrong side so he faked his death and joined the Brotherhood 🤷‍♂

[@jermainewatsonsr314]

One of the main reasons I keep playing is because I want to see a end to the story. I've invested so many years in AC. I think Ubisoft should've never killed off Desmond. They were in limbo until AC Origins when it comes to the modern day story.

[@corycap]

I didnt hate AC4’s modern day but i dont even remember any modern day in unity and syndicate

[@cathylickpriest7775]

It’s really just cutscenes where you get these little calls lol. It’s just there because they thought it had to be whereas the old ones had interesting little segments

[@michaelredford5389]

They should have introduced Galina by having her rescue the protagonist for the Black Flag/Rogue games at the end when Abstergo have the gun to your head. And then introduced that character as the new protagonist, maybe they had some connections we didn't know of before and that's why the Templars made sure they got promoted in the way they did. The idea of First Civilisation figures being gods isn't something I hate, but they have been doing it far too often. The Brotherhood stuff with Desmond asking questions about the people he just met in the Animus was one of my favourite things. Since there are plenty of figures who we know the entire story of, while others, like Ezio, had big chunks where they were missing from the history books. That's what made the series so good, filling in those gaps with science/historical fantasy.

[@exeterfg]

As someone who started playing these games from the beginning, I loved the modern day story. For a long time I thought they were setting Desmond up to get his own game set completely in the modern day, and would finish off the series. I thought that would happen because I viewed the modern day part as the main story and each animus character as a side story that helps move the main story forward. Clearly that wasn’t how it worked out and I’m still bummed about that. Really after Brotherhood, which I think is when the original creators left, is when things fell off for me. Revelations was alright but three killed the whole thing for me, literally and metaphorically lol.

[@xMasterAssassin93]

Remember there is a secret ending cutscene that heavily implies that the modern day is now shifted into the future. Whether they cut it from Mirage to prevent spoilers of a future game or they changed their minds on doing that, we don't know, but it clearly hints at a new modern day direction. I for one think the best thing they CAN do for the modern day elements is to do just that, go into the future where they can start fresh and have proper direction going forward.

[@EatWave]

Ironically, I started to care about the modern day plotline when Desmond started using what he learned in the Animus in AC 3, essentially right at the end of Desmond's involvement. It felt like the payoff right up until he was suddenly written out permanently.

[@damonbeza3767]

I dont think ubisoft knows what to do with this series anymore. From what I've heard they killed Juno (the main antagonist) off in a comic book. The modern day stuff seems to be losing relevancy. For a time they wanted to make it into their version of the witcher and now are trying to copy ghost of tsushima. Personally what I think they should have done is make watchdogs a spinoff series that takes place entirely in modern day. People have basically been calling Aiden the modern day assassin. We had the mission where we "assassinate" Olivier. AC origins seems to confirn Aiden killed him. It would have been cool if in the Watchdogs campaign after completing the olivier mission you receive a message to meet somebody at a warehouse somewhere and inside you are approached by William Miles about joining the brotherhood.

[@Hurryinglyrics44]

I always felt the going out the animus took away from the both sides of the future and the past. Its like watching two shows and going back and forth from one episode to another. With going out not only do you have to adjust to a new character but also a new setting, pacing, and restrictions.

[@sirdork4261]

I was already bummed when they killed off Desmond. Now I get to be disappointed that they most likely won't follow through with Basim. They introduce cool ideas that never get paid off.

[@segaherman_twitch]

I really enjoy your videos . I LIKE the way you two talk about Assassin's Creed 👍 👍

[@ryanwinters9375]

When Desmond was a main character playing as him wasn’t that bad, especially during the handful of action scenes he had it was only vaguely annoying when you were just walking around or hearing some text but when you had to play some Rando, who they just introduced it literally just felt like a chore that you were trying to finish so that you could get back to the game it made me wish that the whole game just took place in the past

[@travit666]

1:25 honestly I think the modern day elements is what keeps me coming back I love the assassin play in the historical time periods but I also love what they bring to the table with their modern-day stories I wish they would give us a game taking place fully in the modern day implementing new technology for both the assassins and the Templars new ways of travel and hiding in plain sight just dope-ass stuff that they could do

[@MaxBraver555]

You know, Modern Day, “modern audience”, even those taking place in ancient times got a “modern audience” treatment

[@chillyman7340]

The sad truth about Assassins Creed is that Desmond's death did very little to derail the franchise at the time. The thing is AC black flag was still a great game without a proper modern day story and even the modern day story of AC 4 was good enough to at least see where the current world was heading. The issue is after Black Flag, Unity had a horrible launch and Syndicate just wasn't good enough, so it would only make sense for them to reboot the franchise and at least AC Origins was a game that people liked but then they just got lazy with the games and completely ignored the modern-day but they referenced the ending of AC revelations in Valhalla about the great catastrophe. there are still a lot of loose ends in the lore of AC so they could still make so many games about the Modern Day, great video.

[@PrincessNine]

Theres a reason i stopped at 3 and only plan to play 4 because its the magical exception in terms of quality. When they killed desmond and weirdly just speedran the ending had me realize we're never getting a modern day AC because someone decided a concurrent story is "bad"

[@ForgimusPrime]

I don't know why they haven't tried to make a Watch Dogs/Assassin's Creed modern day game yet, I feel like that would make bank

[@ParadoxicaI_insomnia]

The original trilogy built around at some point it will be a modern fight but instead copped out at the end by killing Desmond It felt like they planned to end the story but realized there was more money to be made.

[@bobidybilly]

The ending of 3 should’ve been a choice, it was kinda presented that way after juno/ minervas explanation of what Desmond had to do and I remember thinking “There’s no way that’s the ending..”

[@LucsFights]

I liked the Modern Day story until Desmond died and they did the Modern Day story in AC Black Flag which was a major downgrade to me, when they mentioned or hinted that Desmond had a son. That got me back into the story but haven't heard anything about his son since I heard about him.

[@Kaweebo]

Honestly the Assassin’s Creed DLC in Watch Dogs Legion is one of the more fun things in that game and makes it way more enjoyable to play as Darcy along with Aiden and Wrench

[@BamBam-sf7vp]

modern day story, for me is what ties everything together and helps with immersion. but my favourite element is actually the Isu story line. I feel like the 3 timeliness need to be intertwined to have that true AC feeling

[@SNeeBLee]

the whole point of the modern story was for desmond to one day take on abstergo with all that he learned, otherwise what was the point in writing in a whole training ARC in ac2, ubisoft ruined everything, AC4s only saving grace was the kenway story and after that the modern day story was almost entirely cut out

[@ConnorWiederich-hr4zu]

Spoilers I feel the modern day started to go downhill when Lucy died and then when Desmond died it became directionless and pointless in the next 4 games. The RPG games did start to give it more of a role with Layla’s journey and the world catastrophe but now it looks like it will be pushed to the side again. The modern day feels like the element of the Assassin’s Creed series that got done the most dirty.

[@sebastianmuller7013]

Ubisoft could have easily made Watch Dogs the modern story of Assassin's Creed.

[@pickedceasar1216]

People hate the modern way they’ve handled the story ever since they killed off Desmond. They keep fumbling the bag and the current protagonist feels really shoehorned in because Desmond died

[@2kx62]

Ngl, but I always hated the modern day story lines, it always take me out the story. I usually ignore it.

[@The_Rage_Kage]

I agree that Watch_Dogs should have been a vehicle for modern AC games, but more in the sense that it should have been the framework for a modern day AC game and its story. Keep Watch Dogs as its own thing, still in the same universe, but do a Modern AC that just uses the gameplay of Watch Dogs, and use the standard gameplay of other AC games for all the ones taking place in the past. The climbing every building and free running doesn't work as well in a modern open world but Watch Dogs had the best framework for what a Modern AC game could be. As for the non Desmond modern stuff I honestly liked the faceless Abstergo employee in 4 and Rogue and I feel like they should have kept doing that. Mostly because I didn't think anyone could or should replace Desmond as a modern player character. And honestly I think that is still the case and Layla felt kind of pointless by the end of Valhalla. I didn't play Mirage so I don't know if anything comes from her story but honestly I don't care. I'd rather be a faceless stand in for myself than another character who spends a few minutes outside the animus every 3 or 4 hours.

[@TheTalan]

When watch dogs becomes the modern day story I'll care about the modern day story

[@crazycat690]

After Desmond I completely lost interest in the modern day parts, I wish they would completely disregard it at this point so it's easier to just buy the AC games where you have a genuine interest in the time period without being lost when it comes to the inevitable "why" of why you're there instead of having a good self contained story. I mean I quite liked AC Valhalla, which is the first AC game that I've picked up since Syndicate, but the conclusion felt really lackluster because it tied so heavily into the modern day stuff. Suppose I would still like to see a proper conclusion to the modern day stuff, but at this point I don't know if it would be worth it, I don't think Ubisoft have a good plan for it at this point.

[@pyroAdapt]

The modern day story from 1 through 3 is the perfect example of people not knowing what they have til its gone. Thay bitched so much and look what we got as a result...

[@oreotaku4017]

I loved the Modern Day stories with Desmond. Everything afterwards just sort of fumbled the ball. Layla was ok but I wasn’t a fan of her games just at all really, I like rpgs but they aren’t what I played AC for. When it comes to the Watch Dogs stuff I guess they consider it more like crossovers easter eggs than a shared universe. No different than the FF15 crossovers they had. If they wanted to do anymore modern day stories they should wrap up the loose threads they have and start something with some thought behind it. Make a new story and modern day protagonist to play as. They love money so much they can sell the series in bundles, “the Desmond saga” “Layla saga” or whatever.

[@pyroAdapt]

Ive always wanted to do this thing during my AC games binge where once i hit the middle of AC4 and the CEO guy goes missing i would switch to watch dogs and play through it to the point where you kill him in that game but it seems like way too much effort playing an entirely different game that i don't even enjoy much just to have a cool feeling of cross over for all of like 5 minutes lol

[@Mouse22Critical]

I really like the Desmond line and a little bit of the AC 4 and Rougue Abstergo employee turned templar. However, Ubi ruined it after Unity. Juno is also killed in a very non-epic way.

[@ihrsklave9095]

Do we know that the employee from AC 4 ist the same employee from AC Rogue?

[@ConnorWiederich-hr4zu]

I think AC 3 and Brotherhood had my favorite modern days overall. I also enjoyed the modern days of AC 2, Odyssey, and Valhalla. And AC 1 was good too. Really wish Ubisoft would continue the modern day from Valhalla!

[@Spectre1611]

I love the modern day it plays a large part in the story and even if a game like Mirage didn’t have it I was fine with it ever since Desmond died the Modern day become so trash Layla was such a wannabe character she was so annoying people said they didn’t like Desmond but when he was killed off people really appreciated him Ubisoft went from being great game developers to woke game developers

[@LokiStuartsson]

For me the modern-day stuff was always the least compelling and time wasting part of the AC series anyway. It felt like unnecessary nonsense that brought the interesting story to a grinding halt, so I'd be more than happy for Ubisoft to drop the modern-day stuff permanently.

[@Nicholasmcmath-cr1xl]

Great video Jay and Nate and you guys were very funny and entertaining in this video and to answer your question Jay I enjoy the modern day story in the AC games I always enjoy them as much as the story in the past I especially enjoyed the modern day story in AC1 though 3 and I enjoyed the modern day story in Origins too

[@mrmarcusandrews84]

It feel apart once they had Desmond kill Lucy, reviling that she was a Templar double agent. I did enjoy all three of Ezio’s games. He’s obviously the best assassin.

[@Grandtemplar305]

Nah i actually like that they kill Lucy in a way it was poetic but honestly after they kill Desmond they should of brought in his son as the new protagonist but is what it is

[@friedrichmyers]

I only liked AC1 and nothing matched it afterwards. Although I would agree that AC1 to Black Flag were the best games.

[@mrmarcusandrews84]

@@friedrichmyers nothing beats the original even tho I like how revelations closed the book on Altair. I prefer Origins over black flag.

[@friedrichmyers]

@@mrmarcusandrews84 Black Flag isn't something I appreciate as well but gameplay wise it is a pretty solid ac experience.

[@thequestionable1413]

It ended up very convoluted and didn't matter later on idk why they did that.

[@McBumbleFlump]

I miss desmond so much

[@rippedtidegames]

I was totally hoping the watch dogs games where the real modern day version but they dropped that ball as well. I really would’ve loved if each game had a parallel of settings in history and modern day to fight the templars and find pieces of eden….Ubislop gonna Ubislop

[@mobbs6426]

1 had some really great worldbuilding 2 really propelled the modern story into the zeitgeist Brotherhood and Revelations twiddled their thumbs for a bit. 3 crapped the bed. Who cared about 4? Oops. Too late to recover.

[@themultiversalmagpie7827]

I didn’t mind it growing up cuz I was intrigued but now knowing it goes no where I just skip every Moden day cutscene I can cuz I just want to be a pirate or an assassin

[@Max1990Power]

I liked most of the modern story, and see lots of potential with it. It makes ac unique. Especially in relation to the isu and hunting isu objects. But it needs more care. The ending of ac valhalla put it back on track. And i still dont like that Juno was killed in a comic book.

[@EternalNightingale]

I recently purchased ac1- ac3 on ps3 just to have on disc and enjoy the story of Desmond and as someone did say AC brotherhood killed the AC franchise cause of it being the first of them doing yearly releases

[@arkhamgeek8698]

What's up jay

[@DegenerateJay]

Nice to see ya!

[@andson02]

Black ops Cold war had the hub erea, where you would be the CIA agent and solve 'cases'

[@WideOldDan]

AC1 has the best modern day story. Brotherhood, best parkour. AC3 best overall missions. Valhalla made it interesting again. Odyssey had that deep sea diving bit which is pretty cool and a nice surprise. 2, Rev, 4, Rogue, Unity, Syndicate and Origins are all quite disappointing

[@voltronlegendaryguardiansl7261]

Well, unfortunately, and Generally Speaking, Assassin's Creed and its Modern Day was always going to end up this way, as not only was said Modern Day more often than not deliberately sidelined and intentionally thrown away so that some if not most casual and non-casual players of Assassin's Creed can play particularly specific parts that they were interested in and only wanted to relatively play (EX. Assassin's Creed's Historical Past.), but not even Assassin's Creed and its Creators had a clue and/nor a cohesively unified vision for what they truly needed and/or wanted Assassin's Creed to necessarily do and to wholeheartedly be. (And, even when they did have plans for said Franchises and even when they did have visions for said Series, not only were they corporately manhandled into retroactively changing their plans, but they also stupidly disregarded Assassin's Creed's Modern Day as being worthlessly meaningless in such an moronically idiotic way (Such as, and as in, everyday individuals such as Patrice Desilets and Co. had games such as Assassin's Creed II and Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood had most if not all of their Modern Day Sections be, more often than not, soullessly empty of any interesting parts that had Desmond Miles and Co. do Missions around Earth and not just be constantly stuck within The Animus itself and within places such as Italy itself on a frequently daily basis. And, do to said mind-numbingly stupid decisions', this not only made people frustratingly annoyed that they had to play within said Modern Day when they were taken out of any of Assassin's Creed's Historical Past(s), but they also made people further angrily hate that said Modern Day was even there in the first place and they, more often than not, publically called for UbiSoft to just get rid of Assassin's Creed's Modern Day in its entirety regardless of its many 'infinitely' 'endless' consequences. (Amongst many other things and matters.).). - (And, seriously, man, it'll never really not be hilariously funny that Patrice Desilets and Co. tried to truly end Assassin's Creed in a Trilogy-Series by not practically settin' things up to inevitably end that way at all in any sort of logically rational way and in any type of intelligently competent manner.).). But, ultimately, and all in all, Assassin's Creed and its Modern Day was never going to essentially reach any and all of its potential because Assassin's Creed, its Creators, and its Fanbase(s) rarely if ever had any interest in architecturally drawing and constructively building on any single facet of Assassin's Creed's Modern Day overall and rarely if ever had no interest in actively 'playing' in said Modern Day altogether as well either. - (Amongst many other things and matters.). And, ultimately, all in all, and at the end of the day, Franchises and Series such as Assassin's Creed itself has usually if not always been a clumsily jumbled-up mess and a jarringly confusing travesty of a Franchise and of a Series from its original inception of said IP all the way up until now, and that's because at the end of the day neither its Creators, nor its Fandoms, nor its General Audiences have no clue what they all needed for Assassin's Creed to genuinely do and/or what they all wanted Assassin's Creed to honestly be. (And, once again, even if and when they did have a clue on what they 'wanted' to do and had a plan in place, they rarely if ever bothered to practically commit to said plan(s), as not everyone were on the same page as one another and had their own personal agenda(s) w/h said IP(s). (Such as when UbiSoft and its executives corporately meddled with games such Assassin's Creed: Odyssey for vacuously dumb reasons such as that they wanted said game to become a (Mainline. (Mainstream.).) Singe-Player Game and not a (Spin-Off. (Non-Mainstream.).) RPG Game as it was originally suppose to be. (And that's even when none of those very reasons' made any lick of sense whatever and when it was far too late to even try to retroactively change said game(s) into something else on the basis of matters such as that they weren't too confidently sure that said game would definitely even sale on its own merits'.).). And, so, Franchises and Series such as Assassin's Creed itself is reactively going through a Identity Crisis that they won't answerably solve and repairably fix, and that's because 'they' (EX. UbiSoft's Executives'.) just don't want to do any of that nor this whatsoever and they act as if it's virtually impossible for them to do so as of presently (And that's even if and when they 'presently' have and had brilliantly smart answers and solutions to said problems and said issues that're 'simply' 'easy' to actively do and surgically implement within IPs such as Assassin's Creed in and of themselves, such as when they should have done things such as when they should have taken Assassin's Creed: Liberation's Persona System(s) and placed that very system into every single other Assassin's Creed Game such as Assassin's Creed: Syndicate in order to make sure that said game(s) didn't become dully lackluster, and when they should have done other things such as to patiently wait for games such as Assassin's Creed: Unity to be generally all-around fully done in order to make sure that said game(s) would definitely be free of any Bug(s) and/or Glitches' in and of itself as well. (Well, at least, for the most part, anyway.).), and would rather actively watch said Franchise and said Series burn down around them for 'The World' to see than to mutably change their own IPs for the positively good betterment of everyone else and for themselves and to not become the comedically hilarious laughingstock of any industry such as The Gaming Industry overall, and also, altogether as well too. - (And that's no different than what other Franchises and Series such as DC Comics' and The DC Extended Universe-MultiVerse, Marvel Comics and The Marvel Cinematic Universe-MultiVerse, LucasFilm and Star Wars, The Muppets, TRON, Batman and Spider-Man are concurrently going through as of presently as well.).

[@shiningnight12]

Funny enough this video got my to replay watch dogs 1

[@shatteredteacup91]

Honestly, I have always hated the modern-day sections. I just didn't care. Even Desmond was never interesting to me.

[@badreedinebedro]

I think assassin creed 3 morden day is may favorite because you can play in morden and you fight morden day Templars and was really cool and you go to other locations in morden day

[@OttoOctavius77]

Desmond will probably come back eventually. Maybe they'll bring him back to kill off basim or something. Maybe basim does some evil shit and Desmond is resurrected somehow, maybe even layla too, and they kill basim or something. We just have to harass them long enough so they do it lol.

[@MacyP]

The only COD HQ I like is WW2 HQ 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@AnthonySmith-bj9mo]

hi Jay

[@therealjacknewtown8122]

The first 2 Watchdogs games were great, Watchdogs Leigon went straight to piss. As far as AC Franchise, Shadows did it for me, hot dragon garbage.

[@Dustin81]

I just don't get the want for no modern day. Without modern day, the series doesn't exist. There is no reason to be in the animus when your not looking for answers in the past to use in the present. Whether it be for a Piece of Eden or any other mystery that needs to be solved. Without it the game may as well be just another discovery tour.

[@Grandtemplar305]

Yall didn’t like the layal Hassan trilogy 😂 honestly modern day story was peak at ac3 idk I just felt like I was part of something it gave me that feeling marvel gave me when I was a kid

[@NullKitsune1197]

Crossover my ass. For it to be a crossover, at best itd have to be from an IP you dont own. Putting a whole temple to Jacob and Evie Frye in Watchdogs, basically saying it all happened in the past and its still there, thats not a cross over. Thats literally making it canon events in the past. That dude from Final Fantasy appearing in Assassins Creed Origins? Thats a cross over. They add all this background stuff about missions the assassins do in modern day. Why not make a game set in modern day. Show dont tell. So many people ignore those emails or notes.

[@michaelredford5389]

That's why the Assassin's Creed movie is so bad... it was made that way deliberately as subliminal propaganda by the Templars 🤯

[@gordonfeetman445]

modern day was never a good idea to begin with. boring wooden generic characters and nothing of value. it should be removed entirely.

[@onion69420]

I was expecting a full on modern assassin's creed but nah, they had zero idea what to do with it since it's main idea bank and creator left the company

[@hbeardd3448]

Please talk a out AC stuff more.

[@DegenerateJay]

I appreciate the support! I honestly love AC and try to talk about it as much as I can but it seems like most people only watch the AC-only channels when it comes to these games for some reason and not variety channels like me when I post videos on it. That said I'm committed to the topic - same with Watch Dogs actually.

[@dominiqueodom3099]

Come on,when did Assassins Creed ever have a good story?

[@newdawnhorizon9879]

The ezio trilogy

[@badfoody]

I hated AC's modern story I cheered when Desmond died

[@cathylickpriest7775]

That’s a shame.

[@diegorivero6391]

that's not latin, is italian

[@gigaman9548]

They ruined it because these bandwagons cared more about doing 394728493829 damage instead of lore so ubi litsen to them istead.

[@boringrays]

potential is the word of the day for this video seriously they just didn't know what to do and worst of all they ended storylines started in the games, in comics and other media that nobody interacts with

[@boringrays]

also what are those good fan fics, I'm interested in those