This kind of student facilitates the teacher to realize how to better teach what we all need. Thank you guys
@sebastianzamora44143 жыл бұрын
I love her way of conceptualizing the question so clear and deep, a perfect example of how a student makes the teacher, thank you students, we all learn so much through your questions
@sheeteshaswal Жыл бұрын
I once tried this experiment for 2-3 days...not going out, but letting things come in. The were some of the most relaxing days of my life.
@ceeebeee116 ай бұрын
How do you actually do this?
@marijkev3468 Жыл бұрын
'A small question' and there goes another one loving to hear herself. I'm glad Rupert is smart at interrupting, wish he was even better, so many questioners with needless long stories.
@erawanpencil Жыл бұрын
It's astonishing to me how many people in his audience just blab out and interrupt him; it's really sad but how can these people have any hope. If you can't even listen to a teacher during your one question for him, and you need to narrate his answer back to everyone as an expression of whatever garbage ideas you might have, then I'm sorry you're not there to learn you're just there to self-affirm; she seems like she's just trying to get material for her book or some other nonsense. I know I'm being irritable but c'mon that obnoxious loud American accent twice the volume of Rupert just put me over the edge lol.
@kiosuke812 ай бұрын
@@erawanpencil What you feel does not depend on her. It's your feeling. Based on your conditioning (about americans people and loud people combined! :) Not everyone feels the same way about that, so it's your responsibility. It's your job to ask "Who is angry at these people?" and to let go that anger, to investigate that I, to enquire "Who am I?" and move back toward Awareness, the real I. Please try to listen again with closed eyes and to apply what Rupert's talking about, letting her voice come to "you", to your real I, Awareness, and let that feeling dissolve back into what it really is. There's nothing other than Awareness, no other, no outside, so it really is an "inside job". Let go the idea of ignorant people and come back home, where everything is perfect, even her interrupting Rupert! ;) (I really can't stand who write angry comments instead of focusing on the gold inside these videos! JOKING!!! Love you all ;)
@kkproduction51462 жыл бұрын
Awareness doesn't go to things , things come to awareness . Wow Rupert ❤️
@Xthecrowx11226 жыл бұрын
I've learned from a lot of teachers, so far Rupert has the simplest and "scientific" approach to Self Awareness a true gem in what he is teaching
@jeannesottile33694 жыл бұрын
Rupert has become a beloved teacher and I only am his student on line. Thank you!
@kathrynphillips37102 жыл бұрын
totally agree Rupert is an amazing advaita master teacher simply the very best in my opinion ..he is a true gift 💗
@AmarjitSinghDhaliwalDrDhali4 жыл бұрын
Awareness is beyond the sense organs . We are awareness per se ! The bodymind creates the sense of being separated . We create a reality by our sense organs , beliefs , thoughts and there lies our illusion of being separated . In pure awareness we connect again to our original beingness . In pure awareness there is only awareness . We are aware beings that got wrapped or trapped in our bodymind limitedness . Rupert has made it so clear . Thank you .
@vanim.s.47843 жыл бұрын
This is probably the most most important and real experiential understanding i ever received from Mr Spira....gratitude to you Sir
@hangwithjay Жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly. It feels like when I click on a Rupert Spira video, this is what I've been waiting to hear. Great questions, too.
@roselawson2779 жыл бұрын
I recently lost my husband he was my HERO! Thanks to u Mr Rupert I am beginning slowly to manage my pain and fears,Thank you.
@oldnewbieraver7 жыл бұрын
How are you feeling now, Rose? Hugs
@kwixotic6 жыл бұрын
Rise Again........ In the spirit of this video and to give correct advice to Rose(even though I'm writing this months after your post), what you really should be stating is follow the "Christ Consciousness" instead of Jesus(which is merely evoking a separate object).
@TaxemicFanatic4 жыл бұрын
@Ferris Bueller was a nerd are you implying Jesus was something other than man?
@sadhana32054 жыл бұрын
You lost noone ....it is the false ego that got hurt because the self created pleasure derived from the imagination is distorted. You are all all is you ..... You are the pure awareness not limited by any form or time
@zain40194 жыл бұрын
Sudipto Chowdhury We must learn to meet others where they are. Telling someone whose lost another that nothing really exists or that they’re just you anyway doesn’t do much to help them.
@tipoquecomenta11 жыл бұрын
The other day i felt my experience as a stream flowing to me, even time was flowing to me, I was the shore into which all experience was arriving. This whole thing was so, so clear. Rupert made me remember that by his explanation.
@stevedawson69799 ай бұрын
Rupert Spira is Superman.
@givemegracebumps10 жыл бұрын
That Ego goes towards things and Awareness is at rest and lets things come to it.. was one of the best character assesments of the two i have ever (not) heard.Thank you Rupert. Like the lady says this is not mere knowledge this is practical tangible experiential insight and i feel so much gratitude for your work...
@d14279 жыл бұрын
+givemegracebumps i have experienced awareness this way but i have also discovered that sometimes it feels more direct when i am plunged into the existence around me, being aware of the moment like a snapshot of eternity. i find it helpful to move from one to the other.
@ashleytaylor9947 жыл бұрын
givemegracebumps you can test it. If you imagine something and it happens then you are awareness. If it doesn't manifest then you are not awareness. Look up Neville Goddard on KZbin. Most people don't have a clue what they are talking about.
@Emptiness5126 жыл бұрын
I love the way he explains things, so easily...it resonates so deeply
@keithh261010 жыл бұрын
I had a day, years back, in which I saw the world in the way in which he relates. The most wonderful day of my life. It's real, actually I should say it is far more real than what we as separates call reality. Beautiful.
@Stratton2184 жыл бұрын
Keith H were you on psychedelics or was it a sober experience? Not ragging on psychs I have used them myself I was just curious. I know that when I have been in the psychedelic dimension nondual Reality seems exceptionally more clear to me
@mummoification4 жыл бұрын
This is huge, completely reshifts the functioning and conditioning. Thank you so much
@johnnywlittle2 жыл бұрын
Headlessness 101 - Love hearing it from someone else’s experience (Rupert)
@QED_7 жыл бұрын
4:43 Whoa. That's right. And so you can use it . . . to tell at any moment whether you're creating a separate self.
@QED_7 жыл бұрын
And more whoa: 8:09 . . .
@lalitbhandari23287 жыл бұрын
A great job being done by Rupert spira easing the way
@yolandedeflandre41109 жыл бұрын
an incredible sensivisity beauty in Rupert teaching
@robertocfaguiar Жыл бұрын
This talk is blowing up my mind....
@lindaj714 жыл бұрын
I noticed how beautiful Rupert's hands are and then remembered he is an artist. I hope that isn't a shallow observation.
@zain40194 жыл бұрын
Of course not! I noticed that as well:)
@tracy33643 жыл бұрын
I also noticed his hands they are lovely ...I do have a thing about men's hands my partner of 30 years one of the first things I noticed was the shape if his hands and I still look at them now they are still attractive and so are Ruperts so no it's not shallow
@wisdom-for-life4 жыл бұрын
So right, when he said tat, my body naturally relaxed! amazing
@kathrynphillips37102 жыл бұрын
its almost like a merging, a blending and allowing, accepting of energies to melt into oneness, which is peace itself 💗🙏
@GUPTAYOGENDRA4 жыл бұрын
“Thinking” is a process but “Awareness” of thinking is not a process.
@peterkuhn783 жыл бұрын
Rupert Spira is living learning!
@fa_bhr3 ай бұрын
Amazing conversation. Thank you Spria for this wisdom ❤🙏
@venukongad2 жыл бұрын
The very idea of exotic is illuminated by consciousness, so enlightenment should be more than exotic ♥
@ahmedadl67603 жыл бұрын
wow this lady is so smart and brave
@xovictoriacrystal10 жыл бұрын
This has brought an added level of awareness and words to impression that seemed always out of reach. Thank you.
@pravinakilpady12373 жыл бұрын
Enlightenment is a big thing..it's a major shift in one's consciousness..you understand life from a higher perspective. To get to that point a sea change in one's inner space is needed..that requires a purity in thought word n deed where all three are in alignment.
@zain40194 жыл бұрын
Thinking and thought isn’t usually what we want, but it is often an obstacle to what we want. Without thought, there is only peace.
@juditecardoso64364 жыл бұрын
Wonderful.... with him everything is clear
@ivogody7 жыл бұрын
I realize that the old videos of Rupert are the best. When he explains in a more common way the experience. I feel that he has become a little more intelectual or conceptual in the last videos
@Yogi_Ram7 жыл бұрын
Blessed to have come across Rupert.. so beautiful.. so pure.. 😍🙏🙏 love n regards from Tiruvannamalai..
@rainncorbin82913 жыл бұрын
Me too. I know that it is my higher self who put suggested videos like this on my path.
@Legion63634 жыл бұрын
I think another way of looking at it is that; In any one moment of perception, we have 2 highways to choose from. Hwy 1 moves directly to conceptualization which has all the power and resources to trigger comparisons, contrasts, associations etc which kind of short circuits the awakening to awareness available. Hwy 2 remains with direct experience of the sensation of seeing. As Zen would say, leave the seeing in the seeing and the hearing in the hearing etc. When abiding in the sensation of seeing, the radiance of the underlying substance (awareness/knowingness) is revealed which does not require foggy or distortions of perceptics. The Tibetans call this Ihugpa..an alert yet self abiding presence with relaxed perception.
@kathrynphillips37102 жыл бұрын
so beautifully explained 💗🙏💗
@wisdom-for-life4 жыл бұрын
4:35 wow, that is deep!
@Loveee2162 жыл бұрын
It was very helpful , thank you♥️
@annamariapaola112 жыл бұрын
great talk! thank you Rupert.
@prasku68187 жыл бұрын
Great teaching. Thank you very much!
@lakshmir13334 жыл бұрын
Greatest understanding
@dr.susheelkhemariya89663 жыл бұрын
Thankand gretitude Dhanyabad
@mohdshahnawaz.australia3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely loved this video. Thank you so much for this valuable information. Lots of love from an Australian 🇦🇺❤
@antiblackmagickАй бұрын
This was a critical video for me.
@sumanaghosal50723 жыл бұрын
What beautiful clarity 🌻🌻🙏🙏🙏❤️❤️❤️
@ThomasAlexanderMD9 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@WANDOLUST10 жыл бұрын
Yes true also if you are the Awareness the object that rises in you is somehow similar to all other object,or the object that you (separate self)wish for,when you become aware is just like anything else no more important lo longer desired for.Thanks for that beautiful explanation!
@WANDOLUST9 жыл бұрын
***** Well how about fit into nothing ?Or bypass words focus in the field our electromagnetic field.Once you've been there in this nothingness place (nothingness as vast endless formless)you'll know this place or state is cool,well cool does not describe it mhh..... Well it's like a permanent and sensless smile,it's like when time stops,in my own experience i felt bodyless and vast i could not see or feel any form in me but at the same time i was near my deepest self.(The self that is before my name ,my body etc.I know is really hard to explain in words). Anyhow this isn't to me a school of thought,but a direct and unfortunately rare experience.
@rainncorbin82913 жыл бұрын
Really related to this one!!!
@anthonykology1728 Жыл бұрын
we are creating realities.. hard work
@daveschauweker73759 жыл бұрын
Wonderful talk. His expressing how active (rather than passive) awareness creates and reifies the subject/object split reminds me also of the quantum mechanics view that a particle is just a probability wave until a measurement is taken.
@christopherclewlow66343 жыл бұрын
Being awareness, it's like theres all sorts happening and nothing happening at the same time
@sheepshearer2705 Жыл бұрын
Love this ❤
@StephenGrew3 жыл бұрын
Superb
@simeondawkins96855 жыл бұрын
awareness also must be transcended so there is no identity at all
@alexkimpe12 жыл бұрын
thanks, this is very useful, thanks again.
@JohnDevitt12 жыл бұрын
Excellent!
@o.j552610 ай бұрын
So true🥰
@dantherstrike31944 жыл бұрын
On the topic of awareness softening during appropriate times, during inappropriate times such as driving how does awareness manifest in those situations?
@davidalbro2009 Жыл бұрын
Can it be said that this mind/body is experiencing everything in its experience because of its beliefs? If we change our beliefs can we radically change our experience to what we want? Or is there a higher belief which the body/mind cannot alter?
@alfreddifeo9642Ай бұрын
🙏 Thanks
@pcimbalova5 ай бұрын
So subtle
@mprado41772 жыл бұрын
I see nothing wrong with experiencing the separate self. In fact, I don’t like to be watching something as if I were a lettuce or some kind of vegetable. What’s more, separation feels good and safe.
@EuNicolinaArtista Жыл бұрын
Really? Are you sure?
@mprado4177 Жыл бұрын
@@EuNicolinaArtista 100% Why? Does it bother you that I'm very happy being separate and have absolutely zero desire to feel otherwise? 😁
@EuNicolinaArtista Жыл бұрын
No. You até free to make your choises. Good lucky! 😊
@mprado4177 Жыл бұрын
@@EuNicolinaArtista Thank you for your good wishes, but I don't need them. I was already born this way, I put no effort into it :)
@EuNicolinaArtista Жыл бұрын
@@mprado4177 really? Are you already iluminated?
@TheSryn15 жыл бұрын
I wonder how many people who have watched this, have experienced the state of awareness, and if it's the same - the one consciousness, why shouldn't everyone share a somewhat similar, if not a same sense of awareness? Then, what was the process you used, wittingly or not, to receive, or accept that basic, natural state.
@mathrodite2 жыл бұрын
Would be helpful to include/explain the exercise.
@patriciahowellcassity7675 жыл бұрын
Amen!
@dr.susheelkhemariya89663 жыл бұрын
DhanyabadDhanyabadDhanyabadthanks gretitude.
@lasvegasotis6780 Жыл бұрын
👍 yeah
@EuNicolinaArtista Жыл бұрын
❤Maravilhoso❤
@AmarjitSinghDhaliwalDrDhali4 жыл бұрын
Awareness is not an eye sight . The eyes cannot see space or emptiness . The eyes can only see objects . Its the function of the eyes . Eye sight . Awareness is an insight . Its nothing to do with the outer eye sight . Infact , the outer eye sight has become a hurdle or and obstacle to pure awareness .
@swamiwhatsoever2959 жыл бұрын
wonderful
@peteluxx Жыл бұрын
"enlightenment is overrated" - I (whoever I am right now) - do like that.
@sandycarter53004 жыл бұрын
There is never an "in the body". There is never a "brain stem" or anything "held way below...". In a universe of thought, correct language is essential. To continue to use dualistic terms/ material terms, perpetuates the fiction of "matter", "bodies", "minds". And to the extent this language is used unconsciously, as would have to be the case, belief will maintain its grip on consciousness.
@kilifischkopp14427 жыл бұрын
Did he ever comment on ADHD ? I would love to hear his perspective on this condition.
@bindumadhavan8496 жыл бұрын
Iam also interested to know
@condorianeverdormentailast97034 жыл бұрын
If the object comes to awareness then awareness meets the object in the moment for the object is awareness so really it is a matter of perception shift, as in, The moment the separate self or firstly perceived object realises it is aware and is it self that very awareness then awareness or Consciousness it self meets the separation at the divide and the veil is lifted, as in, The very thing, the very being that realises it's awareness becomes aware of awareness or consciousing being all that is and the two meet in the middle and become one, Awareness becomes aware through the separate self as the separate self becomes aware of awareness and so this here is a personally objective statement that if awareness meets you in the I of perceptual thought then awareness actually is aware it self and is infact as you say always coming to you but only when the separate self realises this then the awareness in you meets the awareness out of you and so it is then see that they were always one in a dance of reconnecting their broken bond at birth, Out of nothing came something that suggests nothing was already something but the something thinks it is all that it is missing the nothing that is and exists in the something as the something exists in nothing and in partial theory the nothing becomes something as the something becomes nothing, the nothing is already something but until the something realises it is nothing then it is just something and not at one with nothing, as in no-thing that man knows, Man in enlightenment realises it knows nothing or no-thing and in that moment the object of separation(something) becomes whole in realising it's nothingness as being the some thing that it is, and so nothingness refers to Consciousness which is just a label we give to describe and communicate an understand but really no-thing or nothing is short of explaining that really no-thing that man knows is knowing it's self in whole as everything to which the everything that is is something which is pure being or God in its entirety as all separate self's finding itself in the separation of self being removed, as one becomes with God they see that they are God and the mind meets the center, as in the individual mind or soul comes eye to eye with its maker and so God/Consciousness/no-thing becomes one with its own very self that is existing as an individual or a piece in the puzzle of the grand whole and I say this at the least expectancy of you understand what I mean but if you see that this is entirely not the case then you just missing the obvious fact that in the silver lining is the riddle that I place in standard to conjectory opinion that I exist, if I exist you exist to which God exists, I the everything I am to you the something I am to Consciousness the no-thing that I am, I am everything being something that is no-thing and so it lays to rest that the object subject relationship is removed for if no-thing that I am is something I am being then that is everything I am, Wowza, Think I arrived Rupert, Think I just completed it mate, Sry for the hassle but you know I know you know I know that you know I know you know I know, You know that I know you know you know that I know you know I know that I know so in luck of time changing does the vertality of my immaculate conception improve and futile to rates of constants, the speed of light remains slightly decreasing but as I come I refuel, I stock up and now I am massive, HUGE I SAY MY SON IS, HE IS A MONSTER, A BEAST, A FREE TO ROAM CAGED ANIMAL, Much love, No-thing known to man who know they know no-thing but no-thing in its whole as something which is everything, I am done, Peace, Love xx
@zztopzztop16862 жыл бұрын
I may want to ask you a question...
@zztopzztop16862 жыл бұрын
Does Rupert really saying or believe that a person has no consciousness but a person is awareness only...
@condorianeverdormentailast97032 жыл бұрын
@@zztopzztop1686 Rupert uses the word consciousness and awareness likewise as in to Rupert He is Consciousness being a separated Being of it which came to the self realisation that if I am aware of this thing that I am being then so is the self of itself which I am now becoming aware of, As in, You are now conscious are you not? As in right now to yourself you are aware at least of this experience which is reading as well as the very experience of being aware that you are aware of reading, And so, In this very experience of just being aware that you are first aware and then having the experience of reading do you find yourself, self atoned or self masterful, As in, To the self that is reading there is no separation between you and the print which makes the print universal or translucent meaning that within this print is the separation dissolved for as I am conscious then so is the print that is being read now consciously and therefore so in, is Consciousness or Awareness experiencing itself as it's self is being experienced through these very conscious activities and so there in, well ar3 thing are seemingly made conscious by the inert behaviour between the conscious and subconscious becoming known of its self to be the first or primarily adjacent procedure of this new to me animation known now as a certainty or just plain ole, boring Consciousness that I am now becoming aware of.... Hope this helped somewhat of a degree. Happy hunting and remember to look up and always live. Xxx
@KingOfNeptune_5 жыл бұрын
I love you.
@VirendraSingh-iu2nc3 жыл бұрын
In different quality of seeing objects come to awareness. But how is possible? All objects appear in awareness. There is no question of coming to awareness. I hope someone clear it.
@perothing3 жыл бұрын
You and he are both correct. Awareness is timeless, spaceless, and primordial, objects are not and timebound so they have to 'pop up' out of nothing within something (awareness) as manifestations. The arising within awareness is the birth of the object, so to speak. The viewing direction is more like a social analogy or practice to bring the mind to rest. Awareness and consciousness are actually not the same. Awareness is the absolute unborn principle whereas consciousness is always bound to some kind of embodiment and their senses. Consciousness has depth and represents birth as the material side of (universal) creation whereas awareness represents nothingness. In deep sleep, you can see consciousness disappear and re-appear within awareness. In between these two events, there's nothing to witness so one does not know if he exists or not. Consciousness 'reports' or mirrors back to awareness via objects. Hence the analogy of the viewing direction. Awareness without inherent objects is the absolute unborn Brahman.
@VirendraSingh-iu2nc3 жыл бұрын
@@perothing very good but Godpadacharya said that no orientation and no sessation. Only non- duality is ultimate reality. No any object and no manifestation. You are that ultimate reality not the part of manifestation.
@swapnilkaleatgoogleplus4 жыл бұрын
Resonates
@Eazy_Danny4 жыл бұрын
Experience comes to us.
@AstralHobo9 жыл бұрын
I would really like to have a small conversation with Mr. Rupert for maybe clarification or guidance on something similar to what this woman said happened to her, happened to me too but in a much larger way. Does anyone know if he talks one on one outside of these groups?
@thomasjansen98227 жыл бұрын
On Rupert's website, look at "Webinars." You can sign up for one for $25. You click on a hand icon to get in a queue to talk one-on-one with Rupert.
@theumas217 жыл бұрын
Easiest way to talk to him would be his webcasts. Just go to his website, he does about 2 sessions each month
@hjerneStimulanz10 жыл бұрын
i would like to know that exercise he talks about
@Chaturthaayam2 жыл бұрын
❤️❤️
@chitraisenlightened4 ай бұрын
only *reflective* awareness sees the world..the Real Awareness is Ajata..
@gireeshneroth71274 жыл бұрын
There's no such thing as seer and seeing. Consciousness is misinterpreting and misperceiving and mis-experiencing itself as the seer , seeing and the seen. Actually there is no seeing or other sensory perceptions involved. Consciousness is happening within itself. You are it. Living your own experential distortions as a finite self in a mind posture. You will blossom back to your real nature in time as the mind lays itself off.
@zain40194 жыл бұрын
Rupert says the same in his “pure knowing” videos - that all there is is knowing, no knower or known.
@seangrieves43593 жыл бұрын
Thinking is not substantial. Thought devoid of its identification says more about the one from, with and in which it arises too. I have no shape location and time. Neither does Thought. All phenomenal arising is a reflection of myself. Being aware of being aware, remaining as I am, is like a polish of the mirror.
@sayas77604 жыл бұрын
💚
@zachburnett2433 Жыл бұрын
~ Image of God So simple. So sublime. Call it what you will. It's you. It's I. Practice His presence. Yes HIS. Not I's. Well both. You leave out His glory. You lose. You lose. I AM is His image. If you abandon Him. You lose. Mystery. Confusion. Incomprehensive. YES Still no excuse. Faith is laughed at. Only experience for me. You lose....Him.
@MonkeyDSanji-tx5qe4 жыл бұрын
I really really dont't get this :(
@Sun.powder3 жыл бұрын
Watching his yoga meditation s will help.
@justin50335 жыл бұрын
Whats funny is that the world is so mind dominated. So its hard to be aware out in the world. Its ego based. The roads are linear and logical, everything is based on thinking. Its easy to be aware at home or by yourself or in nature I get lost in my mind easily, always pull back and forth with this consciousness
@jenoszabo62282 жыл бұрын
I got it being enlightened means: to be seksy and jucy. Thank you Rupert🍀
@vanim.s.47843 жыл бұрын
Awareness taking on the quality of thd body ..body taking on the quality of awareness.....in the latter is the integration of non duality and tantra
@SpringBreaze112 жыл бұрын
Eye was Born Free of sin ,, I heard the Word Sin" ; or Its implied Social ramifications ; Knot understandings then that in [in the understanding] ; is the "First" Sin. blessings
@Frari747 Жыл бұрын
Q & A doesn‘t work. You can only ask something, which is in your Mind, the superficial mind. More than this, the asking person knows , that there are cameras and people around. And… Rupert is a the teacher, who knows. Although he is against this hierachic princip, he is doing the same. The student suffers about the high-intelligent questiones and answers. „ be quiet“ Ramana said.
@MajorCulturalDivide2 жыл бұрын
If enlightenment is just the first step, I'm fcked.
@ivankos33052 жыл бұрын
Tratak
@gigivan-dr1yr7 жыл бұрын
i am the master, i must explain your experience
@robinaguenkel75342 жыл бұрын
👍🇩🇪
@pravahsvid5 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/d2Krm6t_j6moiNk a different point of view
@genkafioofficial9653 Жыл бұрын
Why are they laughing so much, he's not making jokes
@MrRaf109 жыл бұрын
All these “teachings” can be very confusing in a way, they presume that there is some “miserable seeker” who has to do something in order to find something, namely, “The sought”; But I wonder What Truth was being sought 100 years ago? What seeker was there 100 years ago? What Understanding was there 100 years ago? What Nothingness was there 100 years ago? What “Now” was there? What Consciousness was there or hwat awareness what Void or what Abyss? And so on… Somebody said "The purpose of life is awakening to my private identity” well …100 years ago, Did I have the need to awakening to my private identity? I heard a modern master saying “This is all there is”, yeah this is all there is, but maybe its better to say, “This is all there WASN´T 100 years ago” Experiment: That face that you see in the mirror...Can that face see your Nothingness here? And can that Nothingness see who you really really are?
@fredfleming64839 жыл бұрын
+Raf Raff An alternate view is that “teachings” arise in response to questions. Knowledge as a whole is based on such answering of questions. When one questions, one seeks answers. Being miserable while doing so is a personal option, not a procedural necessity. In any event, Rupert Spira's “teachings” are nothing more than an invitation to self inquiry. You don't have to be taught that you are conscious. This is the undeniable and inescapable experience of being. Rupert Spira is simply asking you to investigate what it is that 'knows' this conscious experience. Your question of what happened 100 years ago only has relevance if the 'I', the knower of conscious experience, is itself an object of that experience. As an object, the 'I' would be subject to, and dependent on, spacetime dynamics (cause/effect, observed change). Being subject to time, this 'I' is a temporary phenomenon. This dualistic fracture into Subject/Object is the issue upon which the matter turns. You are focusing on this split while Rupert is pointing out that a deep look at our own experience will expose the fact that this is not the observable case. The purpose of Douglas Harding's experiment you mention is to dramatize that what you look like is not who you are. Nothingness? Are we advancing our cause by invoking nothingness? Rupert suggests that you discover for yourself who the knower of conscious experience is. After this introduction, the miserable seeker just might disappear...
@MrRaf109 жыл бұрын
+Fred Fleming Words are confusing, you said "Rupert suggests that you discover for yourself who the knower of conscious experience is. After this introduction, the miserable seeker just might disappear..." The consciouness is knowing, knowingness, the knower is the witnessing, so its more consciouness, more maya; when there is no knower, no witnessing, no consciouness, no knowingness. and beyond all that, thats what you really really are, the rest are all concepts, more labels, in the maya, in the consciouness, even the witnessing or the knower, are concepts. anyway.... when the seeker, the seeking and the sought fall or drop, when you really see that you are not all that, then we dont have any more words. Was there any knower of the conscious experience 100 years ago? and if it there was a knower, was a knower of what? Did I have the need to find a knower 100 years ago? Does the knower know You? I really think most mastesr are just worshipping this consciouness and they are still stuck in the consciouness , or subtle states of consciouness. You are completely separate from consciouness. Your existence is independent of this body, You "existed" when the body wasn´t here. Even now you exist independently from the body. But without the body I dont´know that I am. I see myself completely apart from This consciouness, this knower , this void, this nothingness, or put the label you want. If you tell a seeker that he or she has do discover something the seeking starts. I want to have that!, I want the knower! I want the Void, I want I want.... but if you tell him or her to see by himself of herself that all this" wasn´t here", including the " I" how can you start any seeking at all ? the seeking of who or what ? You know that the knower, the wittnessing the conciouness, the whole package wasn´t here, YOU know that. it can't be other any one than Me !who else. You can ask anyone, was this here 100 years ago? the answer will be , NO. how is it posible to know that if you werent there already !
@seriousthoughts-vn8 жыл бұрын
100 years ago is only an idea of your mind. Time is just an belief. One can know nothing except I AM. The nature of I Am is consciousness. That's the only fact we can be sure of. Everything else is beliefs. I Am(Consciousness or Awareness) is the Truth. It can not be simpler.
@MrRaf108 жыл бұрын
Of couse it is an idea... well you can change the proposition and say...."if I am not, was is there?. and This I am is confusing too. First the sense of being appears in the morning, blank, then appears the sense of I am a person the world etc etc.. You can call that" I am"... but all that wasnt here , even the sense of being, the consciouness wasn´t here, it disappears every day when you go to sleep.. the witnessing and the witnesser disappear , the Oneness dissapear ....words and more words, there were no words, there werent masters ...all this is a dream, the dream you had last night can not know you, can the consciouness know you? can the the void or nothingess know you? most teachers are stuck in this consciouness thing and " they " dont go beyond... of course you can´t go beyond coz knowledge dont´access to IT... I find words are confusing depends of the masters you listen to .. so for me its better to say.. all this wasn´t here
@MrRaf108 жыл бұрын
Does self-consciousness ever have the slightest suspicion that it is just consciousness?... ~ Does my own sensation of myself ever have the slightest suspicion that it is just a sensation?... ~ How can they find me?... ~ How can self-consciousness find me?... ~ They were not with me... ~ There was no self-consciousness with me... ~ There was no sensation of myself with me... ~ They haven´t found me... ~It is “myself” who sees that they were not present... ~ It is “myself” who sees myself without them... ~This selfness is the only thing there is... ~ It cannot be sought because it is never absent... ~ It cannot be found because absolutely nothing else is able to witness it... ~ It cannot be witnessed because it is the one that witnesses... ~Nothing else is apart from it... ~It is selfness... ~ sorry about my English !