How Azerbaijan Started Riots in France

[@adrianilchev5728]

I don't know how, but KZbin recommended me this video. From what I see you make some pretty cool quality stuff with cute pixel art! :3 I noticed you actually show your references, so that's a huuge plus for me! Keep it up!

[@AkravHistory]

Woohoo, thanks for watching glad you found it interesting. And yes, sometimes the topics are controversial so it's good to have someplace to put all the resources for anybody who decides to learn more.

[@cyclonemc7915]

do you use AI for the pixel are or do you do it yourself?

[@denizbluemusic]

3:48 Ah so this was the one win of Glass Joe on Punch Out

[@AkravHistory]

Did you just reference an 80s videogame?

[@wimblewomble4751]

Amazing video as always, btw have you seen the new caledonian separatists waving Azerbaijani flags, kind of ironic if you think about it

[@AkravHistory]

Thanks! Yup, I show a bunch of them in the video

[@wimblewomble4751]

@@AkravHistory its kinda funny how Azerbaijan talks about self-determination

[@ovasov]

Did you watch the video?..whats wrong with you

[@wimblewomble4751]

@@ovasov i was half way through it

[@SlavaDomnu]

Amazing video. Love and support to Armenians everywhere from Romania 🇦🇲🇷🇴

[@AkravHistory]

Thanks very much, greetings back to Romania!

[@armen4ok280]

Romania is one of my favorite nations, love from Armenia 🇦🇲❤️🇷🇴

[@GrimeyR]

I've a good friend from Romania. Much love back to you & your country 🙏🏼✊🏼

[@hi_arav]

Excellent video, mersi

[@AkravHistory]

Merci to you!

[@balabani]

Inimitable Akrav always thorough and accurate. Thank you.

[@AkravHistory]

My pleasure, thank you!

[@imperatorarmenator]

Quality as always ❤ Loving the new style. Keep up the great work Akrav jan

[@AkravHistory]

Thank you kindly, the imperator himself!

[@balabani]

Thanks!

[@AkravHistory]

Thank you so much!

[@jan2535]

Okey, i watch severell videos of this subject. This one is only that make sense. I also liked the retrogame graphics and audio they really makes video more watchable. Thank you and good job dude!

[@AkravHistory]

Thank you for being here and the kind words!

[@viktorneshaniyan3298]

Thanks for deep dive in that topic

[@AkravHistory]

Thanks for watching!

[@ArsoJano]

Akrav is the most educational KZbin channel with the most thorough research

[@AkravHistory]

That's very nice to hear, thank you!

[@PolishFries]

As an Azerbaijani l was shocked that my nation makes civil wars so l started to disrespect my nation :(

[@AkravHistory]

I appreciate your honesty and introspection. It's important to recognize the actions of one's own nation, even when they're difficult to accept. Stay strong and keep advocating for what you believe is right.

[@evielikeshugs1055]

Most canaks do support independence, so it's not a minorty of canaks but rather a minorty of the island The situation is complex

[@AkravHistory]

That's right. As I mention in the video, Kanaks are just under half the island, and there are other groups living on the island. I still think all those voices should matter too.

[@evielikeshugs1055]

@AkravHistory what affects my view on this is that if the island was never colonized, kanaks would probably make up a majority

[@hetmankp]

You left out a key element of this story, namely why the Kanak boycotted the third referendum. The reason they gave was that they had been disproportionately affected by the COVID pandemic and therefore, while the pandemic was still raging, it was not an appropriate time for a vote. This doesn't seem unreasonable and it makes you wonder why France would refuse (Afraid that they might lose under fairer circumstances? The previous vote was a close thing). France has not been above all sorts of pretty atrocious behaviour in their former colonies, even up until today, so while Azerbaijan's involvement is clearly suspect, if France wants to play with the big boys and demonstrate it's a significant power worthy of regional leadership, it should get its own house in order.

[@AkravHistory]

Thank you for the comment! Yes, I did mention the third referendum was boycotted by the pro-independence movement, but did not go into the reasons. Frankly, I wasn't convinced the results would be different but more importantly, I don't think that aligning with dictators is the way to go either.

[@hetmankp]

​@@AkravHistory whether you or I think it might have turned out different is irrelevant. I think the request of the Kanak was more than reasonable given the circumstances, the referenda clearly showed a trend towards increasing desire for independence which made France uncomfortable. We can speculate all we want, but at the end of the day it was not a good will effort on the part of France and leaving that detail out really doesn't seem to present a complete picture here.

[@AkravHistory]

@hetmankp I don't disagree. How is the referendum date decided?

[@hetmankp]

@@AkravHistory I don't know how the date was decided, but ultimately it was presumably by legislation, so it's not unreasonable to expect it could also be changed by legislation. If there's some legal restrictions on this then it's a bad law... which, again, could be amended by legislation. Hiding behind legal formalities might seem entirely reasonable to the French and not at all to the Kanak. We could suggest that the way the Kanak are venting the resulting frustration is unreasonable. But, as they clearly feel no good will effort was made to negotiate a solution, we should definitely not be surprised by such a response. As with most movements for self determination, it's hard to understand the full extent of the injustice felt without being intimately involved... but it sure doesn't feel like France has a great track record of being magnanimous with regard to their colonial holdings.

[@MegaNogz]

The date of the 3rd referendum has been decided by the independentists themselves, at least a year before. France decided to keep the date despite the will of some to cancel it; because of the cost of such a referendum mainly, and also because the date as I said was mainly decided by the pro independence. The boycott wasnt from the majority of the independentists tho, only from the most radicalized. Covid at this time in the country was « sort of under control ». But they knew that because of this (fear of voting while covid still roams) they'll loose a fair amount of voices. We can discuss this stress point for days. Its complicated and I dont really think my explanation holds any truth whatsoever. France and anti independence parties are playing a fool game for sure down there. Its just my humble point of view

[@veldrensavoth7119]

0:12 *Yes it does leave me scratching my head because I didn’t think France would call Turkey and Azerbaijan out in front of God and everybody in broad daylight*

[@mohammedtijani3749]

Out of topic but can you put the soundtracks used for this video in the description. I like the style of this channel, pixel art should have more online presence 😁

[@AkravHistory]

Thanks so much, glad you enjoyed it! I picked up all the music from Storyblocks, hope that helps!

[@baku_m_salti3128]

I think you could've gone into more detail on why the third referendum was boycotted and the issues that faced the island during the pandemic in which it was held. My question is, if France did allow a redo of the third referendum, what might happen? 🤔

[@AkravHistory]

You're right, I thought about mentioning that, as well as the Matignon Agreements that preeced the Noumea accord. Ultimately I decided to stay on track, I don't think the boycott made a difference in the final result. What do you think?

[@Zaman805]

And I hear somewhere about Azerbaijan being the reason the Iranian president's helicopter crashing. But, it could have been that the helicopter was old and the weather. Because that helicopter was made in the 60's, the sanctions mean that a lot of stuff in Iran are old and malfunction a lot. Like the planes too. Rest in peace Ebrahim Raisi.

[@AkravHistory]

Yeah, I also think in the case of Iran's president, the simpler explanation is the true one, the helicopter was just old and in disrepair.

[@qpdb840]

@@AkravHistoryok, that is my alt account called Zaman. So I am on my main account. So that could be true. Because I took an Iranian plane and it was old.

[@MrNarek973]

I know the saying "don't crucify the dead"... but that guy doesn't deserve a "RIP"

[@qpdb840]

@@MrNarek973 Just because he was not someone you like or cared for, you still have to say rest in peace

[@Niggexp38]

Great Video as always! Btw, I have also started to make videos now!

[@AkravHistory]

Thanks so much! How are you liking it?

[@Niggexp38]

@@AkravHistory ur welcome, Its a topic I havent seen anyone covering yet! Btw, can you make a video on the current situation in Armenia? Like all those riots, this priest and ur opinion maybe?

[@Niggexp38]

My first Video is „Falsification of History in Azerbaijan“

[@C6Fever]

Apres! 💯

[@AkravHistory]

Shnorhagalutyun 🙏

[@armen4ok280]

@@holyarmor578 There’s nothing wrong with being pro-europe (obviously not EU, just Europe). We are Europeans, and Europeans are the greatest conquerors and crusaders of the world

[@mjw907]

The ongoing french colonial empire is one of the biggest atrocities no one talks about

[@AkravHistory]

Biggest atrocities, really? Let's assume that's right. I'd still condemn the "Baku Initiative Group" simply because two wrongs don't make a right.

[@biwnzixebrxb4786]

Because Haiti didn’t turn into an s-hole since they get independence. Look, New Caledonians aren’t Hong Kongers or Catalans. They are of a particular ethnic group that do not tend to take care of themselves once decolonised. France can consider policy changes, but for the best interest of the Caledonian people it is best to remain.

[@asharista3152]

Azerbaijanis just wants to liberate their ancestral lands in Caledonia. 😁

[@AkravHistory]

Noumea bizimdir?

[@GrimeyR]

The truth has to be torn from the grasp of those who seek to hide it! Akrav, thank you 🙏🏼

[@AkravHistory]

Thank you for being here!

[@suzannecampbell4946]

I was looking at videos on the Armenian genocide and in the comments a lot of turks said that the Armenians also massacred that tens of thousands of turks I don’t know the validity of this and I want to know if that’s true or not great video by the way

[@AkravHistory]

Thank you so much for being here and leaving a comment. Genocide is a legal term with a very specific meaning. Turks trying to erase their Armenian population is genocide. This was their publicly stated goal. On the other hand, there were Armenian resistance groups who put up a fight against the Ottomans. Always be cautious when anyone says "both sides did...". One side is usually closer to the truth.

[@GodsStrength617]

Now It's understandable why your channel's name is Akrav! That name is no fluke! 💯 Clearly raking in some top-notch content like a bird finding tasty worm!! 😁

[@AkravHistory]

😂

[@ЕвгенийПавлюк-ж7к]

С таким пиксель артом у тебя должно быть больше просмотров.

[@AkravHistory]

Thank you!

[@edwardgrigoryan3982]

Love the production of this video and looking forward to watching more from you. Well done. Obviously this is a cynical Azeri ploy with no substance behind it. However, I believe there is lots of nuance to the situation with the Kanak people and the referenda that you gloss over here. You are very likely aware of this, as it's quite clear you do plenty of reading and research of your own, but I would like to particularly emphasize the point that the Kanak are only a minority in New Caledonia due to a deliberate effort by France to populate the area with non Kanak French nationals who vote in alignment with the interests of the metropole. I find this in a way comparable to the Russian tactic of historically "Russifying" regions it seeks to dominate by populating them with Russians and diluting the indigenous population, as is the case in the Baltic states, Kazakhstan, Ukraine, etc. Azerbaijan is just capitalizing on a legitimate grievance, though it's quite clear that France is willing to do anything to maintain the status quo in NC, so I doubt much will change. That said, the cult of personality petro-dictatorship that is Azerbaijan sincerely playing a role in some kind of "decolonization movement" is farcical. It's sad to the see the Kanak leadership and populace sucked into that so easily, but then again, I suppose their options are limited.

[@AkravHistory]

Thanks so much for the comment! Yeah you got it!

[@maelystyn1055]

Seeing this from France I’d tend to support the struggle for independence but they don’t want independence they just hate armenians

[@MakeLoveNotWar687]

Lmao that what they called it Independence

[@biwnzixebrxb4786]

This isn’t Hong Kong. This isn’t Catalonia. The people are not negotiable with. That’s what people don’t get. Palestinians and New Caledonians, they are still stuck in the dark ages, therefore is a dangerous to the world if left unchecked.

[@evielikeshugs1055]

It's more like they want something and are willing to work with bad people to get it

[@adelaide4625]

Hey great video ! I just wanted to add something. About the last referendum, Why is it so much one sided ? Kanak culture involve a lot of rites and France held this third vote right after covid 19, anak were "busy" in rites about the dead.. Also, the reason of this revolt is about Macron forcing a law that break this noumea chart. This new law allow colonial european to vote, which they were not allowed before. All of the vote made on Caledonia was from Kanak people, European could not. Now, they lost the political power to decide wither or not they vote for independence etc. Why is it important ? Because France gave to white people a lot of the earth and buildin in Caledonia. It's "our" way of colonizing, we bring white people, give them land and slowly but surely they replace and dominate locals. Also the situation there is very awful, Kanak are like second class citizen, "Strip Tease Enculé de Kanak" is a french broadcast that show how the situation is : A white guy having all the lands etc insulting kanak of being useless, subhuman, that without white people the country would just die etc. Anyway great video, just to understand why Kanak people would even go as far as aligning with Russia (which is not really the case btw) you need to understand the colonial aspect of the situation :)

[@AkravHistory]

Thank you for the insightful comment! Yes, I did mention the third referendum was boycotted by the pro-independence movement, but did not go into the reasons. Frankly, it kinda feels like an excuse. If the situation is so bad that they are willing to work with Azerbaijan (if not Russia as well), surely they can also postpone a ritual for one day to vote in the third independence referendum? If they are confident of victory, isn't it easier to vote than to fly to the other side of the world to garner "support"? And even if you disagree, I'd say two wrongs won't make a right. Please correct me if I'm missing something, maybe my thinking is coming from a comfortable European place. I do not want to minimize the racism or injustice that the Kanak have faced. I'm well aware of French police's dark history and what they're capable of, even here in Europe. I appreciate your comment and insight!

[@adelaide4625]

@@AkravHistory Maurice Leenhardt have describe in extent the ritual of the kanak people, their rite are taken very seriously. France know that, and that's why they voted right after covid 19. Also the azerbaijan sound like typical Macron move, from all the interview of Kanak people I've heard they never speak about that and just about freedom, colonialism and independence. And don't worry I really loved your video, it's very ludic and easy to understand the though situation. I just wanted to add this because I'm french and I've listened to multiple french kanak interview talking about the situation, I don't know if there is any translation of the interview, but for example Tematai Le Gayic speak very well of the situation. There is so many layered to the situation, like for example Darmanin (Well known rapist and faschist of the Macron political side, also our minister of the interior) became the minister of overseas + They declared the emergency plan right after voting it. For any french who know a bit about the Algeria war, this is typical France movement to "calm" their colony. I don't know if I'm really clear but all in all, for us french (well if you are not on the side of the colonist) this all look like what we have done with our colony (algeria/vietnam) It's kind of crazy to learn "what we did wrong with our colony" in school, and seeing our country do the same today in 2024..

[@AkravHistory]

@adelaide4625 I think we're on the same page. Thanks for the added information!

[@MrNarek973]

@Akrav I like your objective videos but I have a feeling you went to soft on france in this one. Yes azerbaijan is taking advantage of the situation and escalating it... but it is a situation which france is entirely to blame for. Its sounds like they are beeing very hypocritical. In the end of your video you make it look like the Kanaks are straying away from democracy but the reality seems to be that france isn't beeing entirely democratic in their way of handling the situation and the kanaks are accepting the only help they are getting, even if it is by azerbaijan. I guess they didnt think as far that accepting their help will only make things worse, it really is a deal with the devil. Azerbaijan is taking advantage. The kanaks aren't beeing smart with accepting their help. But france created the desperate situation.

[@AkravHistory]

Thanks for the feedback! How is holding 3 referendums not being entirely democratic? I do agree that they can do better, but as far as independence referendums go I haven't seen many better examples. Feel free to enlighten me though!

[@MrNarek973]

@@AkravHistory the first two were really close and for the third the kanaks asked for it to be postponed but france didn't so they boycotted it. Yes referendums are democratic but instead of just saying "ok its over, we won 🥳 " as a leader you shouldn't just neglect the opinion of half the population. Although I can't see why they would want to be independent, but maybe if it is because they feel dicriminated in their own country then that is an issue that should be adressed instead of acting like the case is now closed. This big part of the native population just wanted to be heard but probably feel neglected now.

[@puzzled012]

so Kosovo is not Serbia, despite history, having Serbian majority till relatively recently, but New Caledonia is French? that is Frankish homeland, right?

[@AkravHistory]

How did you get to Kosovo? Completely different topic. But fine, I'll bite: Territorial integrity is important. But when ethnic cleansing is involved, self-determination beats territorial integrity. I haven't seen any Srebrenica style massacres in New Caledonia, but please correct me if I'm wrong.

[@kriogen8720]

It's good that I've found your channel. Here in Ukraine, people mostly see Armenia as a pro-Russian state (as I myself used to do), while Azerbaijan is viewed as pro-western and maybe even pro-Ukraine. 🇺🇦🇲🇩🇬🇪🇦🇲

[@AkravHistory]

Thanks for the comment, I'm glad to have you hear! I actually have a video about this very topic titled "Armenians in Ukraine". Give it a go when you have time!

[@Nnkocharyan7033]

One thing I noticed here, there are no Azeri comments, generally videos about Armenia or Azerbaijan are seen heavily, or Azerbaijani KZbin banned their videos. Or they are afraid to hear the other side of the story.

[@AkravHistory]

That's right, I don't get too many especially since I started listing all the sources. Cards on the table though, I delete the comments that try to spread misinformation or personal attacks. I do engage with the comments that genuinely seem interested in a discussion, even if they disagree with the videos. Thanks for being here btw!

[@Nnkocharyan7033]

@@AkravHistory Do you think the Turkish and Azeri government use bots? Of course there are a lot of real people, It's because, for example, I've seen an avalanche of accounts swearing and repeating the same phrase! This is common in politics, on the right creating bots to defame opponents and on the left too, with the tactic of cancellation!

[@marcosantoniooliveira7965]

make videos explaining how Azeris use bots, once I went to make a comment praising your country and out of nowhere a bunch of accounts cursed me, cordonedly, I know it's bots because I used to do that.

[@Nnkocharyan7033]

I suspect it too!

[@anmikoya22]

A video of him explaining it better and him doing some research would be good!

[@Roubentvo]

[@AkravHistory]

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[@amarhadjimurad2363]

Armenian living karabk don't want autonomy but independent or be part Armenian proper

[@AkravHistory]

Can't blame them

[@vaazma]

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[@AkravHistory]

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[@bahruzsamadov8599]

08:04 me

[@AkravHistory]

You? 😆

[@TractorClub-zf5cz]

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[@ardayldrm2656]

I like the channel yet: Azerbaijan is also a fledgling democracy(edit: totally false sorry). Russia is the key for reginal security. New Caledonians were not happy with France and Kanak people's futile attempts for retaining their vanning political power causes the violence not foreign interference.

[@AkravHistory]

Azerbaijan is not fledging democracy. Check any index and they are ranked along the same lines as Taliban-controlled Afghanistan.

[@ardayldrm2656]

@@AkravHistory ok i was wrong. They are classified as dictatorship/Hard Autocracy.

[@StaLeninosus]

Azerbaijan is talking about giving independnece when it has Artsakh in it. World became HOI4...

[@AkravHistory]

My Paradox experience is too limited to understand that reference. Got any Civ ones? 🥲

[@StaLeninosus]

@@AkravHistory HOI4 is a videogame... and it has some *strange* stuff happening on the world map while you are playing it. Like a country on the other side of the map can declare war on another nation which is very far, and this is kinda similar lol.

[@AkravHistory]

@StaLeninosus hah, yeah I figured. I've played some of that developers (Paradox) other games and it can be like that as well.

[@AuroraRae89]

boo hoo, no one cares

[@AkravHistory]

I care 😢