How Bad Is It? What's Left of this Tri-Axle Lowboy Trailer After Blasting [EP2]

[@nicholasherman8155]

I am a independent truck and equipment repair shop owner down here in the northwest. I’ve rebuilt several trailers with that same suspension. Those are Hendrickson HT230 low slung suspension. Flat decks use a over slung beam and lowbeds run the underslung beams. The trunions and tool are readily available from Hendrickson. It will have 4707 brake shoes and KIC drum number 60001-018. 46305 seals if you are using the drive in or 46300 if you are using the push in seals. Hopefully you can find a set of S cams that long that have the thin s to run the 4707 shoes on. If not you will need to run 4515 shoes. They looked to be double anchor pin brake spiders on those axles.

[@richardmccann4815]

Thanks for sharing your knowledge!

[@nicholaswaddell4141]

Makes me happy when I see people sharing valuable knowledge like this. As a soon to be owner operator I appreciate people like you

[@Stressdaninjalo]

You need a needler scaler attachment for your air hammer.

[@zsolthajdu5007]

One of my favorite tools.

[@caveone-365]

Literally came here to say the same. Also, I bet a torque multiplier would've helped you get those lugs off. They were no doubt overtightened, but I guarantee it would've helped to try one. Your kitty is adorable BTW 👍

[@alerickson8999]

I’ve always called it a rust rattler. But sounds like the same thing has a dozen or so hardened pins wokes the same as an air hammer

[@chrisewalt25]

I came here to say the same thing. Still would have been labor intensive but it probably beats a hammer

[@chrisewalt25]

Gotta have your ears on running the big milwaukee on those wheels 🙏

[@da_SpiffR]

The jackstand under the ratchet head is BRILLIANT. Could've used that idea many times...

[@SuperSecretSquirell]

I used to rebuild those Henderson axles at a previous job. All you really need that you're not going to find at your local truck and trailer parts house is the bushing and pivot collars. There's a special tool from Henderson to press them out and in. I found it was easier to burn out the old bushing, that tool will never press them out when they're that old and corroded.

[@chunkychambers1530]

Never realized how much deeper that center beams are. Like you said makes sense why they get stuck all the time.

[@averyw.3939]

Not all of them are like that, our trailer is the same height inside and out, some are even opposite of that with the center rails higher on the top side. Works great for big, high clearance equipment, not so well for anything too narrow or low.

[@jeepindave5464]

Trade off for a flat deck. Gotta have a tall beam to not bend in half.

[@aserta]

@@averyw.3939 Probably not the same tonnage.

[@averyw.3939]

@@aserta Our trailer is a 60 ton

[@carlcarlamos9055]

These trailers have a poor resale value. This is probably one of the reasons why. Anything that is going to get you in a wrestling match with a train is a bad idea. Take care.

[@coltonmcrae5873]

The needle scalers work amazing if you buy the big ones. The ones on air hammers and other adapters just don't have the violence. We use the all the time to de-scale transit bus axles.

[@aserta]

Yep. There's needle scalers and then there's NEEDLE scalers. If you don't know and buy the simple, cheapie ones, you'll always think they're no good. Get the right, built for purpose one and you'll experience the real deal and jittery hands after.

[@ionstorm66]

Yep a good needle scaler will dimple tool steel to look like cast lol.

[@mattharrell4]

I love to see Vince in videos, the guy is an absolute artist welding, but never hesitates to get his hands dirty doing other jobs. 👍🏻

[@HotForgeChaos]

Its funny watching him wail on that deck with the large shillelagh and a dart hanging oot his mouth

[@timamyett9679]

I have always had the disease of taking something broken and discarded and reviving it.The problem is making sure the time and money spent making it new is worth the investment. Looks like you have a worthy project here. Heavy iron ...bulldozers and track loaders were my best candidates.

[@FUCK_________googIe]

that's not a disease that's called intelligence

[@NoWr2Run]

My " DISEASE " is trying to make things better that are not broken, LOL. Some times it works out, some times not so much & it cost's me.

[@texxasal]

Really starting to look good. When working with rusted nuts. 10-15 seconds with a torch does wonders. Also, we use needle air scalers instead of air chisels.

[@DGHD]

I picked up a scaler, but the chisel worked better. The chisel took the entire scale off, where the needle scaler seemed to take layers off one by one. Felt much better on the hands though

[@carlthor91]

@@DGHD Rich, was that the LARGE scaler? I've seen SASE, which are two handed, to use their large one efficiently. Best wishes from Northern Manitoba.

[@aserta]

Don't use torches, buy an induction nut heater. Faster, simpler, less gas consumed. Best investment you can make if you see more than 30 rusty nuts per month. Also, don't skimp on it, buy the quality units. Buy once, cry once.

[@wobblysauce]

@@asertayou can make your own with some rod and battery

[@methanial73]

Variety is the spice of life.

[@number40Fan]

You look like you belong in a Mad Max film after chipping off that rust! 23:25

[@P0LYPRO]

That or on stage singing. I absolutely lost it after seeing that.

[@RuedigerEtzold]

Lol like Charlize Theron you mean 😂

[@theglitch99]

NEW SUB HERE!! Im a Texas Heavyhauler! I like your content and glade I find your channel!

[@vmoney9106]

Best part is Vince smoking a dart

[@isb170swap8]

I think the nuts were hard to remove because they were run on futher than normal because the drums weren't on the axle and prob run into junk threads.

[@DGHD]

Nailed it

[@tdotw77]

13:23 Adapters absolutely kill your torque wrenches abilities! Also the bigger socket has more mass and therefore more energy transferred to the lugs. They even make some sockets with additional material mass added to the sides, just for the inertia gain they provide. 👍🛠️🔥🔧💪⚒️

[@Viperman200221]

This vid is the epitome of "If Your Not Filthy, You're Not Rich"! Nice work!

[@h.h.legacydiesel6724]

Rich, l can't believe how straight this old trailer is, aside from the top edges being bent down from dumb loading? Or not? All the I-beams are like new! You have your self a really great trailer, new brakes, air bags, air lines & tanks, bearings and well? You have a crap load of sanding and painting! This thing is going to shine! One awesome looker! Are you painting the frame the same colour as the cab-over? Wishing you continued great luck with the trailer! ✌🏻🤘🌦 🇨🇦. ☕️⏳️. 🍁- ONTARIO 🐈 meow. 9 kittens last week, can't wait 🤗. Want some?

[@jakem.6359]

There aren't many of us that can see the potential it what others think is scrap. It's a lot of work....but the satisfaction and the end result is well worth the effort

[@jamesburnette4120]

As a retired OTR driver for 46 years. I'm partial to this channel. But I love them both. Waiting for more on the lowboy.

[@alexpratt960]

lol 30:55 - around here, it's if you see the old guy on the riding mower that we know he has a DUI

[@Nicmadis]

When it's time to find old nails and other bits of metal after tearing something down, stick some decent size magnets on a rake and just rake the area a few times. Tends to work like a charm.

[@aserta]

29:28 yellow-legged mud dauber AKA Sceliphron caementarium, caused the crash of an airplane once, otherwise harmless if you're not finding them inside the intake of your engine or some weep hole necessary for engine functions.

[@waggtech4883]

Otherwise beneficial if you dislike spiders. They anesthetize spiders for the dauber larva to feed on…

[@greasemonkey7744]

got a big nightmare of a project for tonight into this weekend and just sat down and watched a few of your vids they are always motivating thanks for keeping me motivated! always helps to see someone else work hard for what some people just buy🤘

[@ryanbrown5214]

That was what we call a dirt dobber here in Louisiana. That is what makes those dirt houses that stop ups air lines lol.

[@david929190]

Huge respect for the work you do for a good paint job.

[@carlcarlamos9055]

A good paint job is an absolute requirement for a lowboy. Particularly underneath where you can’t see. This one has just been caught in time. Most factory paint on lowboys is poor quality, and underneath will have disappeared in several years. This includes a number of companies that have high opinions of themselves. Some kind of protective finish on the underside of floor boards will also prolong trailer life. Take care.

[@RealNickTheCoolest]

I'm a trailer mechanic, had a golf cart hauler made by "sun valley trailers". It was an old ride well suspension but the brake setup was weird and nobody we called could send us the right part. I found a casting number on a drum and looked it up on Google and napa ended up having the drums and shoes. It sat in our yard for about a year until I finally decided to just look into it.

[@JosephArata]

Kind of the same deal, working on anything old Ford/GMC Medium duty with air over hydraulic brake system. There are still pieces of equipment running around with that old stuff still on it. There's still a couple of companies that make brand new backing plate assemblies with new wheel cylinders and shoes as a whole kit for them.

[@TheFridge]

Have you considered making a air receiver for the big rattle guns? Get a little tank, hook it to the end of you long airline from the compressor, then add a 3' section of 5/8 or 3/4" air line to the tool. The short, large, line allows the tool to make use of as much air as it can, without the flow restriction of a long air line. Makes it easier to crack those rusted lugs.

[@prototype3a]

@ 14:00 Pretty sure you were actually losing a lot of impact energy using your 1" to 3/4" adapter. A socket directly on the anvil of an impact is always more efficient / powerful.

[@axlapointe]

Would be a good @TorqueTestChannel video!

[@prototype3a]

@@axlapointe Pretty sure they already tested it.

[@ziptiejedi5658]

You need to get a turbo tip for your preasure washer. They make such a huge difference on hard to clean stuff. It's basically the small tip(red) that spins super fast and makes a cone of super high pressure water. It's the only way we can clean our crab pots before painting them. It will take a lot of rust off also.

[@bryanmorgan8501]

I'm a diesel mechanic for a living. We service all our own stuff. I feel your struggle with rust and stuck lugnuts and bolts. Good luck

[@boltonky]

Your arms must be jacked haha, also might be worth getting a needle scaler its good when your dealing with rust or scale

[@dwightuhl3360]

If Phil isn't the coolest neighbor ever then idk who is. . . . Of course he has a big wheel loader that you can just go borrow at random.

[@charlesroer972]

I’m waiting to see how the set up works . Duals , hubs , brake pots ., suspension . On and on . The damn rust does a job especially if there’s salt in the mix .

[@Mike-Honcho-]

Can’t wait to see the next episode on this. Great video as always.

[@Mikki_Tu]

Hi Rich, to help speed up the rust scale removal get yourself a needle gun, I used them in heavy marine refinishing and they blast through everything that's not solid steel.

[@sjh9812]

I always get the urge to work on my stuff after watching your videos. Thanks and good luck with the paint. Hope it goes easy

[@ryanreaves1203]

It's great to see things brought back to life.

[@willtricks9432]

Worth doing and the video was worth waiting for. Getting ready to watch paint dry. Exciting.

[@jacksgarageworkshop]

You NEED a needle scaler gun for getting that scale and crud off. That’s a big and awkward project but going to be so worthwhile to have your own trailer.

[@HogshooterHotrods]

Very nice work getting that trailer back up to snuff and road ready just a bunch of hard work to make it happen!

[@DatBoiOrly]

28:39 ya need a needler Ritch it's a $15 attachment & it'll make your life 1000% easier especially removing rust and scale

[@3535gt]

Been waiting for this episode since you picked the trailer up! Great video.

[@larrydavidson3402]

Knowing you Rich you will have that trailer looking better than new once your finished.

[@Vernath]

A magnetic broom is a shop/work yard is a must

[@AdelJeffreyJeffreysAuto]

Vince seems awesome chill dude with stories to tell.

[@mediocre_moto]

I ran into a similar wheel nut issue recently, ended up getting one of those 70:1 reduction wheel nut breakers. Worked up a heck of a sweat, but ended up getting them all off.

[@MrVantage8]

19:48 😂😂😂 I thought Luigi from Cars had just snuck onto the set there for a minute... Flashback...😂😂😂

[@wedge471]

Life is so much easier with access to heavy equipment 👍

[@bobmoroney3643]

When removing floor decking I would use a skill saw in the middle of the cross members, smash the wood down and off, then hammer the studs off. Some grinding of the studs required but it went fast.

[@chrisklamm3333]

For as much rusty stuff you bring back to life, a needle scaler would be handy.

[@brentsmith5647]

Lovely looking truck❤️👀👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@brentsmith5647]

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[@douglasthompson2740]

Have you tried a needle scaler for that heavy rust? Works much better than the chisel.

[@andersaxelsson2196]

The fittings to the fifth wheel is so different compere to sweden where we have Swan neck low boy trailers allmost every where.

[@gregweber8951]

It works better with the 3/4 because the extension is taking torque away from the lug nut

[@stephenhewitt5835]

Awesome work, looking forward to the finished trailer all shiny arsed 🇬🇧

[@randyruppel6727]

When I gp back to work tomorrow, I'll look up the brakes and drums, hubs should give you seals, if not can usually match to bearings. Go manual slacks if you can (I don't remember the year of your trailer) sometimes those lowboy s cams can be harder to get, but you shouldn't have too much trouble, that is if you haven't already figured it all out

[@DGHD]

I figured out the S cams, and they won't be in until middle of August. Everything else should be off the shelf parts. Would still appreciate numbers though. Its a 23 000 lbs Hendrickson 250XT I believe.

[@michaelovitch]

Extensions on impact guns reduce A LOT their ability. The more elements ,wiggle and play you have between the nut,socket,extension and square end of the gun,the more energy is dispersed and lost in twisting and impact absorption of steel. The best is the lighter,harder,smaller,tighter socket you can get without extension. Think to a dual mass flywheel,it's the same principle.

[@66Thetraveller]

Time for some major sandblasting for a good painting surface.

[@jfv65]

Scott from 'Bus grease monkey' uses a torque multiplier tool to get stuck/rusted/ way overtorqued wheel nuts lose. It has gears in it. It works slow but with incredibly high torque. The nuts/studs/bolts either come lose or they snap off. No inbetween.

[@Motronic944]

You need a needle scaler!

[@Watchyn_Yarwood]

A suggestion that might save you some time, effort and headaches in the future dealing with old rusted bolts and nuts is a induction bolt removal tool. Amazon got a bunch. I don't own one but I have seen one used and was very impressed. Beats a cutting torch in most instances, plus no open flames, no compressed gas just a 110v electrical source.

[@brentsmith5647]

Brilliant video thank you very much❤👀👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@CharlesManch]

For a "dustless blaster"....... Made an awful lotta dust......

[@TechOne7671]

Another minted video Rich, thanks. And happy belated Canada day. July 1st. All the best.

[@fonhollohan2908]

I did industrial sandblasting for several yrs its not that bad if you have the right equipment. Than latter on I became a welder fitter about about six seven yrs into my trade I meet Vince who works for you, when he first became a welder fitter.

[@RuedigerEtzold]

An induction heater "thingi" for bolts might be a nice addition to your workshop. Although i dont know how affordable those things are. Nice work on the trailer, excited for upcoming progress.

[@first_last01]

couple hundred

[@aserta]

@@first_last01 Worth even at 500. If you math out the gas used, the potential damage when you work more delicate stuff, worth ever penny. I bought one for 240 euros and it's the most bang for the buck i've had. I go in, zap the coil on, click it, nut goes orange, let it cool, and they come off. In 3 years of using mine, i've had maybe 4 nuts that were stubborn to the treatment and during the pandemic i pretty much spent all that free time sorting out all my junk, cleaned the entire back part of my shop, so i took off rusty nuts galore.

[@leed7951]

It'll be bout a thousand

[@nelsonmattoon150]

Looks like the man for the job

[@FoolOfATuque]

My problem with projects is I don’t know when to stop. For example my daily driver Mini Cooper S has a turbo not making boost. So I did the right thing and bought a bigger turbo. Then a cold air intake so she can breathe. Then a 2.75” downpipe, and a full 2.75” exhaust. Oh and a silicone inlet tube for the turbo. Oh and a turbo blanket. Oh and a boost gauge. Oh and I will be doing a tune on it to fix the power issues. Might do a new diverter valve while I’m at it, but we will see.

[@austindoud273]

Did you replace the turbo oil feed thoes coke up and starve the turbo of oil there's an upgraded part that has a bunch of heat shielding and maybe some rerouting

[@jamesstone8453]

You ever think of using a needle scaler to take the rust off?

[@johnmorrow1628]

I just replaced about 20 deck boards on a tralier like that. Just as rusty, my hands are killing after all the drilling to get the deck screws in

[@Scoots1994]

I remember people who race on Bonneville had an under spray they used to mitigate the salt. I don't know that it would be feasible for a regular use vehicle but for when you want to move your nicer vehicles in winter it could be a great solution.

[@huey4203]

Fluid film is what some use heavy d uses it on the slat lake for his vehicles

[@brianconnelly2115]

Blaster has a Lanolin based undercoat that works real well, hangs on for years.

[@peteschram9524]

Called salt away use it on boat trailers and engines works good he should bead blast the frame then primer it in stead of sand or chipping

[@tamberp]

Something I've noticed about those Milwaukee electric inch impacts is, if there's even slightly too much play in the setup -- whether a worn out socket, or you have an adapter in like you did to start with -- they **really** struggle. I think they're not hitting *as* hard per blow but they're hitting faster, whereas the old (clapped out 😄) air-gun is hitting slower but harder each time; so the air-gun can power through that loss with a loose-fitting socket, but the electric gun is losing relatively more of its hit-force. One thing's for sure about both options: Damn they're heavy when you're swinging 'em around all day.

[@Ike113]

Ive had really good luck with Kroil for rusty stuff.

[@davidsawyer1599]

Words you and I often hear. "I would never do what you do." One other thing. It is mind-numbing work, no doubt. Yet if you gave the job to one with a numb mind. You would then start using your mind to solve all the problems they somehow created. Good stuff.

[@carlcarlamos9055]

The most disappointing thing about a decking job is if you get violent curls in the wood both sideways and lengthwise when it dries. Take care.

[@wbball15]

Outer frame rail clearance helps when passing over curbs.

[@owendodman3037]

Waltron in Ridgetown Ontario rebuilds trailers. But i’m sure there must be another business that does the same work around you. you could do the biggest parts of the grunt work then have them do the new axles so you avoid that headache

[@woodydowler1594]

Awesome job, rebuilding and making stuff😅

[@michaeln7305]

Hey it's C&C Dustless! Guy *really* likes using the Glaaaasssssss! 😁

[@b4rtmod]

I really like that project my friend, i create 3D models and see these under and inside the trailer was pretty good for me as references. And definitely you take an old project and bring back to life yourself give huge pleasure, well done my friend. Greetings Tiago Witt London -ON

[@36browneyedman]

You looked like the joker with all that around your eyes! Lol. Good job fighting through it all!

[@josephistall]

I used a hole saw a size bigger than the head of screws that way the boards come off easily then flush cut the screws off

[@LouisRoman-p7y]

Thanks for sharing.

[@jerryb1234]

Awesome video Rich, thanks for sharing.

[@Hanzyscure]

Straight claw 32oz framing hammer works good for rust removal in tight corners

[@horakrepair2546]

Great job, this is going to turn out pretty nice.

[@BobcatXbox]

instead of using a hammer use a air chisel for knocking off rust i used it for my truck it works awsome

[@winstoncryer7606]

Like you said neighbors got to love it early fourth-of-july A...

[@HootMaRoot]

Surprised you don't wet media blast when outside since it has rust inhibitor in the water used

[@max16]

you should really buy a turbo head for the pressure washer.. they are amazing for knocking anything off.

[@MB-kq9by]

I know hindsight is 20/20 but last time I swapped boards on a drop deck we wet the wood and used a torch to wash the bolt heads then just lifted the boards up with a strap and forklift, came back and cut and grinned the bolts flush.

[@DGHD]

Thanks for the tip. If I still have the trailer in 20 years, I will try that lol! Where were you three weeks ago?

[@brianconnelly2115]

I used a few tourq heads and an impact wrench but got the screws out and was able to reuse the holes. Drilling through an old screw is a real pain.

[@dustinrieck312]

Have you checked the arch because the video looks like its to flat you can have it reacrhed.

[@mesh1248]

Im glad I went with air over the electric 1” impact

[@WBOS72]

Awesome video Rich - thats the way to roll, rebuild.

[@asherdie]

An Apollo hood, cool fresh air supply to the hood and sand blasting is therapeutic.

[@MichaelSchneiderTexas]

Nice job. Paint it with steel it so you can weld on it.

[@BadBrad21]

love the updates

[@DanKoning777]

Great topic/content-the only negative [jmo], is the amount of discussion re: what needs to be done, is being done, has been done, and why.

[@brentsmith5647]

Trailer is looking really really good ❤️👀👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@winstoncryer7606]

Now you know what it's like to be a powdo scrape operator in the summer you sweat dust-collecting to you end of the day you're a mud kegger and hoping the water truck comes by they give you a spray...

[@DGHD]

I went for a swim in the pond. Felt great