Another thing to add from what we learned today about her being a standard character : while her cons aren't necessarily the best compared to limited 5 stars, they're more impactful than the other standard 5 stars, meaning losing your 50/50 to Dehya once will probably feel bad if you don't intend to play her, but losing it 7 times is better than getting dilucs COPIUM Also realized I forgor to mention 4p Crimson Witch, it's also a fine option, generally better than 2p2p if you're playing her in vape teams but worse than 4p emblem
@amvbro7033 Жыл бұрын
Holly that amount of Copium is massive , especially since now the chances of getting even one copy of her are 1/7 . See u guys in 8.0 when u all have a c7 dehya and hoyo created a set for her to be good ( COPIUM )
@SrtaElaine Жыл бұрын
at least losing to diluc won't be so traumatic for me anymore, diluc stole some of my faves
@mike81356 Жыл бұрын
Imagine losing 7+ 50/50s for C6 Dehya (gotta also win 1/7 odds too COPIUM) to be comparable to C0R1 HuTao💀 OPPA XL in the background
@dannielblo1602 Жыл бұрын
dehya should get her own event where we get free copies of her. the only ones allowed to participate are those who pulled for her on day one
@impendio Жыл бұрын
Me, a dehya wanter since 3.0: everything is doomed, i’ll have to skip Me, now: please let me lose my 50/50s to dehya at least twice, dear god…
@littleswansplaygrownd6817 Жыл бұрын
At least dehya is BADASS 🔥🔥🔥 Kit=Bad 🔥🔥🔥 DPS=Ass 🔥🔥🔥
@TruthSpeaker723 Жыл бұрын
Nahh 💀
@RafidW9 Жыл бұрын
Violation 💀
@user-tv4rq9qh9y Жыл бұрын
Grammar Master
@liru6869 Жыл бұрын
💀💀💀
@giornogiovanna4602 Жыл бұрын
God i love this
@Sensei_Emu Жыл бұрын
Honestly a character like this is metabreaking. We can no longer say that we pulled a qiqi
@danielsteven5159 Жыл бұрын
TRUEE
@hollow6189 Жыл бұрын
now we can say we pulled a dehya and cry
@ZionKid95 Жыл бұрын
Damn, you're right. Qiqi is no longer the worst 5 star
@vjbd2757 Жыл бұрын
Qiqi can run a clam set and a Skyward blade and she's good to go. Dehya can't even solo kill a Cryo Regisvine lol.
@maxxvii2037 Жыл бұрын
5head logic right there mate
@veliona8920 Жыл бұрын
It's a weird notion that Mihoyo would intentionally design a character to be bad because their goal was to put them on the standard banner. There's so many things that don't make sense, Why do this for a highly anticipated Sumeru character when you haven't done it for any other region? Why another Pyro claymore? Why waste such amazing character design like this? There's no way it's not intentional, you don't go from releasing absolutely broken characters like Nahida and Yelan to whatever Dehyas kit is supposed to be. This is honestly really depressing.
@TheRealSarceus Жыл бұрын
It is, it's heartbreaking. Who knows what HoYo's intention was exactly, but there was intent. I've made my peace with it, but I hope the community absolutely roasts HoYo for this. They kinda deserve it.
@yasmindepaula7959 Жыл бұрын
to my knowledge, according one of the lakers that leaked her being 5 stars, the original one, of her being 4, was wrong. So she wasn't changed, she was always supposed to 5.
@justsomeguy727 Жыл бұрын
It's mildly weird you say all this but have a Nyx pfp as if Nyx isn't just an afterthought in Honkai and wasn't made irrelevant in her own niche very quickly. Idk. Just odd. And again, honkai went from making multiple really strong valks around the time Nyx came out, to then releasing Nyx herself and she just ended up having little to no real place in the game.
@veliona8920 Жыл бұрын
@@justsomeguy727 Starchasm Nyx is in no way comparable to Dehya, since that seems to be where you are going with this. Starchasm Nyx came out in march of 2021 and was the best ice dps valk in the game for 7 months until Silverwing EX, and even then she still had weather bosses where she was the preferred character to use. Both her and Silverwing were again powercrept by HoH Elysia who came out another 8 months later and remains the strongest ice valk. I wouldn't call a character being meta for almost a year being made "quickly irrelevant." I'm not even sure why we are discussing this to begin with, it's not in any way comparable to Dehya's situation.
@febbbm2002 Жыл бұрын
I mean Tighnari isn't that bad right?
@neonlights_12 Жыл бұрын
Xinyan was so popular they made Xinyan 2
@Trey_Black Жыл бұрын
More like Xinyan minus 2
@dire213 Жыл бұрын
@@Trey_Black xinyan minus 2 but more expensive
@destructo3457 Жыл бұрын
@@Trey_Black 💀
@WolfHour_ Жыл бұрын
As it often happens, sequel is worse than original
@mike81356 Жыл бұрын
The Netflix Adaptation to Xinyan 💀
@k4neki854 Жыл бұрын
She literally protected Albedo from going to standard banner Truly One of the bodyguard of all time
@NaeNzuko Жыл бұрын
A true tank type
@JEREMAIAHJONES Жыл бұрын
💀😭
@mike81356 Жыл бұрын
She tanked all the Nerfs in the 3.5 Beta too 💀
@simonditomasso9868 Жыл бұрын
I don’t think they can legally add old 5 star limited units to standard banner though 🤔
@MaelCott1 Жыл бұрын
@@simonditomasso9868 if they really wanted to they could just add them if you lose the 50/50 on the limited banner or just make a new standard banner and delete the other I'm honestly impressed that we got a second pyro claymore before getting a polearm or geo unit on the standard banner
@wendellrafael3773 Жыл бұрын
Since I started playing in 2020, I never hyped a character so much how I did with Dehya when I first saw her. Her look is amazing and her personality is pure gold, and I was saving every primogem since Nahida waiting for the moment she arrives. Now I'm completely crushed and dead inside.
@Mark-bc1ej Жыл бұрын
I feel you, I've been saving for her since then as well.. This is a major gut punch
@rumuelnathanael8043 Жыл бұрын
Let me translate your comment into an emote: "🗿"
@Yoanka Жыл бұрын
That means you are so ready for Fontaine to bring only amazing characters that redefine the meta! *inhales copium*
@istiompaxindica9676 Жыл бұрын
I was saving for her, now I think Im actually gonna spend the primos for yoimiya rerun 💀
@Onii-Chan-UwU Жыл бұрын
Out of desperation I pulled for hutao and got her c1 with homa... I break the game and now I can chill and RIP ☺️🤣☺️ LIKE TO SAY NEARLY ALL SUMERU CHARACTERS ARE SUPER NICHE AND MORE TRASH.. I'd wait for Fontaine if I were you or pull for Ayaka Ganyu zhongli...anyone with nahida being the only exception... Rest sumeru is pure tragedy.....😭😭😭
@Footballfan896 Жыл бұрын
The editors are really something else. They knew for a fact that some of us would be watching Zajef’s face bounce around, hoping that it would line up perfectly with a corner. And right when it did, Zajef claps and the bouncing stops. Top tier editing.
@segbefiajustin2408 Жыл бұрын
You noticed it too.. nice
@ShaggyTea Жыл бұрын
She can’t even be called the best pyro claymore on the standard banner
@infine-8222 Жыл бұрын
At this point she can't even be called best female pyro claymore
@midnightemerald Жыл бұрын
3rd best standard pyro claymore
@Verosa1410 Жыл бұрын
At this point she just can't
@KKraliS Жыл бұрын
dont worry, she's still the best 5 star female pyro claymore
@MASTER_AL Жыл бұрын
At C6 with Sig might compete with diluc maybe?, C6 diluc is quite good with xq tho
@gullugadha Жыл бұрын
I feel bad for Dehya wanters, Hoyo really did her dirty
@mike81356 Жыл бұрын
They really let Liloupar Cook Dehya 💀
@davidm0355 Жыл бұрын
@phantom knight Worse Pyro application than Thoma
@simonditomasso9868 Жыл бұрын
@phantom knight he addressed it, it’s not going to be a thing
@adityawahyu9198 Жыл бұрын
yeah
@NewWorldF00l Жыл бұрын
This patch went from my most hyped in all of sumeru to a definit skip... Dehya is the new qiqi And the only phys support doesn't run with the only phys dmg dealer.
@ZerefCifer707 Жыл бұрын
This unit...literally made me start this game again..after over ONE YEAR of not touching it... And this is what she turned out to be 💀 The pain
@meursaulty6672 Жыл бұрын
It's BS that a character revealed 5 patches ago is now a standard character. Total BS.
@zayl1294 Жыл бұрын
Same. Stop playing for months and come back because of Dehya only to get....this
@kokosigar4536 Жыл бұрын
@@meursaulty6672 I mean if she was a good standard character that'd be diff lol they literally made her the worst rip.
@KendrickJinn8625 Жыл бұрын
She's just protecting you from the game. A real bodyguard
@PenguinsAreColdish Жыл бұрын
listen to the signs
@3.6-57 Жыл бұрын
My thoughts on Dehya: her idle animation is really cute.
@kimsonrobinson3171 Жыл бұрын
Gotta make sure my Clown makeup is on point! 👄 💄 🤡
@doomslayer8985 Жыл бұрын
Her kit is very cute
@hiimapop7755 Жыл бұрын
Her damage is very cute. Like that of a kitten rather than a lion.
@jsw973 Жыл бұрын
@@hiimapop7755 "flame mane" haha yes you go fierce kitty girl
@CountMonsparkle Жыл бұрын
Her "running faster during the day" passive sounds quite good.
@asarakula495 Жыл бұрын
They really just dumped her into the standard banner instead of fixing her... They make Vergil look like a responsible dad.
@oh-noe Жыл бұрын
they most likely made her like that because they had planned to put her in standard lol. They work on character months before their beta they know what they want
@wigglerman1414 Жыл бұрын
@@oh-noe in this situation it looks more like a bandaid instead of intended, like a last minute quick fix rather than their plan, from a player among many others who were here during the first anniversary sherade, we have a sense for a rushed fixes done by mihoyo to cover their ass rather face the consequences
@cheesynut Жыл бұрын
@@wigglerman1414 not really i mean.. the first leak that comes out says she's a 4 star tho I don't have that senses I forgot what they did in the first anniv after Zhongli buff they never messed up some characters again I only remember everyone complaining about reward
@oh-noe Жыл бұрын
@@wigglerman1414 I’m a 1.0 player I know what happened during the anniversary. There’s a difference between a character they’ve been working on for months vs an anniversary event. A quick bandaid fix is not to put her on standard banner, a quick bandaid fix would be to buff her a ton so people can’t miss her anymore as a limited. Her being put into standard banner is most likely a planned thing, and seeing that we just recently got thighnari added to standard, it seems like they want to increase standard character pool. You’re talking like they can’t buff characters if they want in beta, if they see a need for a buff they will buff. If they don’t see a need they won’t. Her being made weak compared to top tier 5* makes sense if they want her as a standard character
@hasn4616 Жыл бұрын
@@oh-noe how many Inazuma Character on standard banner? None? Now how the fk Sumeru got it first before Inazuma? Stop your bs They made her worse that's why she is standard banner
@F1ll1nTh3Blanks Жыл бұрын
As someone who was looking forward to her for months. I am entering with great misery and despair.
@mike81356 Жыл бұрын
Welcome to DehyaMains, we’ve been Despairge since Beta and have been running on off-brand COPIUM 💀
@nurly125 Жыл бұрын
I had the same feeling when Kokomi came out. I was disappointed she was not great, and everyone called her useless, but them ocean hueued clam was released, and people just stopped shitting on her! i think the situation with Dehya is kinda the same
@April2x Жыл бұрын
As someone who was looking forward to her for months. I am entering with greay joy knowing we are only 12 sleeps away from being able to play her and her story quest and learn more about her :D
@cometed445 Жыл бұрын
@@nurly125 OHC did not improve Kokomi by THAT much. She was still decent because she had large aoe off field hydro app, ttds, and could drive certain comps.
@figlet6427 Жыл бұрын
My heart goes out to you dehya mains, truly
@kokocute123 Жыл бұрын
This is why character leaks and theorycrafters are important. Imagine people skipping the likes of Yelan to save up for Dehya (unless you REALLY like her just for her aesthetics alone).
@xanderkai6353 Жыл бұрын
I was thinking the exact same thing. in this other game I play, which has wayyy shittier devs than genshin btw, we at least get something called "the road ahead." it happens about 4 times per yr and lays out the next 3 months worth of content. it doesn't even take away from the money they earn, if anything, it helps generate hype.
@knicklichtjedi Жыл бұрын
Yep. I was on the torn between skipping Alhaitham to guarantee myself Dehya or getting him. And then the beta came along and solved my problems immediately.
@adamant2239 Жыл бұрын
@@bobjones1934 true and facts, but sadly there's so many waifu>meta "enjoyers" in the casual community, heck many of them don't even know what ICD is lmao
@justsomeguy727 Жыл бұрын
@@adamant2239 and why is that such a problem for you? Are people playing the game differently from you bothering you so much ? Both you and Bob sound like pretentious losers who make your knowledge about a fucking *video game* a part of your identity. Then ridicule people who don't fit your personal bubble. Pull your head out of your ass and stop being a tool.
@PNDRATM Жыл бұрын
@@adamant2239 Or they just want to play the game with the characters they like. There's no reason to force a meta onto players when there isn't even any pvp or competition or leaderboard. Sure big numbers and good team comps for said big numbers are always nice, but that's not what the general audience enjoys or even cares for. They want to just play the characters they like and that brings them joy which personally I can fully understand. Fun should always be the number one priority.
@webbedshadow2601 Жыл бұрын
Remember when some people thought at worst Dehya would be a character focused only on buffing the Burning reaction? *_good times_*
@nikk-named Жыл бұрын
Burning might be a team comp to use her in which could be fun. Like, she applies pyro so rarely you can focus on refreshing dendro I guess. Idk. If I get her I'm probably gonna try that out.
@thesupershinymegagengar2034 Жыл бұрын
That was WORST?!
@CB-si8eh Жыл бұрын
The fact that Ganyu Burn Melt is basically her best team right now as a stagger and pyro res bot makes this comment not so far from the truth LMAO
@Grylken1569 Жыл бұрын
Well Zajef, despite it being a complete breaking of the mold, you were right that she was just so bad she had to be going on the standard banner.
@mike81356 Жыл бұрын
Man, I feel bad for that unknown leaker that said she’d be in Standard and everyone else just 🤡 them. It made sense Number-wise, but also would’ve been Hmmge since it would mean there would be 2 Pyro Claymores
@F1ll1nTh3Blanks Жыл бұрын
Really puts it into perspective for those original leaks saying she was gonna be a 4 star, honestly, she might as well have been for all the good she is rn.
@goatmilk2937 Жыл бұрын
@@F1ll1nTh3Blanksat least we wouldn't lose our 50/50's to her
@hritwikranjan2198 Жыл бұрын
Uncle Zajef let's goo
@ChrisSmith-tu9bu Жыл бұрын
@@F1ll1nTh3Blanks amen
@argonianguy6226 Жыл бұрын
That's really weird how they managed to make dehya such a good character in terms of design/animations/personality but balancing team just completely butchered her
@vicv3940 Жыл бұрын
It's probably a social experiment to see if people will still pull on objectively bad characters that also look good.
@argonianguy6226 Жыл бұрын
@@vicv3940 I'm still high on copium, maybe it's a thoma/kuki situation, where a character is completely shit, and then it's a complete turnaround next version
@rudy2538 Жыл бұрын
@@argonianguy6226they added a whole new reaction to make those characters work so maybe when abbyss element comes put with dainsleif she'll work
@argonianguy6226 Жыл бұрын
@@rudy2538 see, there might be several things. Artifact set that will be good for her, fontaine 4 stars, etc
@bazah23 Жыл бұрын
@@argonianguy6226 it’s possible but it won’t make her amazing she will just be useable btw I’m not against you I’m just trying to lower your expectations for her so you don’t get disappointed again later It’s a tragedy
@Dani_el_Duck Жыл бұрын
Imagine if they launch some set to make Deyah playeble and Xinyan is the one better with it
@bazah23 Жыл бұрын
Damn😭😂
@schokodeuli Жыл бұрын
Why does this sound so real though? 😭
@Defrott Жыл бұрын
I wonder if they'll put cryo slimes as the main enemies in her trial out of pity
@cocoroach_ok Жыл бұрын
You need to specify it even more. Small cryo slimes. Because the big one has shield, and Dehya's skill can't proc against shielded enemies 💀 To be fair her skill is just exactly like Raiden and Albedo's skill but yknow their kit are more coherent than Dehya's
@ProjectTranzationz Жыл бұрын
Can’t wait to struggle against a lvl 70 slime
@harrysu1840 Жыл бұрын
@@cocoroach_ok Dehya tickled a hydro slime with her burst in the livestream. They're gonna need to do more than throw in some small cryo slimes to make her look good, she's gonna need the national team to carry her through her own trial or something
@dm1136 Жыл бұрын
@@harrysu1840 dehya national team vs a single hyrdo slime. The battle of the century.
@fancymustache3793 Жыл бұрын
@@harrysu1840 remember when they showcased her failing to enable melt ganyu? those were the days
@lucasfranke5161 Жыл бұрын
It's so strange that we're getting a second pyro 5* in the standard banner before a geo character
@Solr084 Жыл бұрын
true geo would be saved immediately by 5* waifu
@tenderandmoist5011 Жыл бұрын
2nd Pyro claymore user too lmao
@allright29456 Жыл бұрын
2nd pyro, 2nd Claymore, 2nd Sumeru, 2nd qiqi
@mike81356 Жыл бұрын
@@Solr084 ThoseWhoKnow
@aakhozam Жыл бұрын
@@allright29456 second fake catgirl
@teaQtheQT Жыл бұрын
They were so lazy to fix her kit they took the easy way out and put her on standard
@fahmimeitra2812 Жыл бұрын
This tbh
@TruthSpeaker723 Жыл бұрын
Facts
@justadragonnamemarcus1751 Жыл бұрын
They run out of ideas AT LAST WEEK OF BETA she got buff and that buff is Hp scaling even it's still bad
@littleswansplaygrownd6817 Жыл бұрын
@@justadragonnamemarcus1751 if they added hp scaling ON TOP of her already low atk scaling she'd be better. but they reduced her attck scaling so stuff like noblesse, bennett burst doesn't work as well.
@meowsymcmeow7438 Жыл бұрын
I’m guessing they already planned her to be in standard since her kit was shit from the start lol
@spicelordx Жыл бұрын
The absolute worst part is that they announced that she would be on the standard banner in the livestream - implying they had premeditated this. Even if by a miracle all regions of the playerbase complain in unison, like with Zhongli and to a lesser extent Yae Miko, its not guaranteed she would be buffed to a normal 5 star because they would logically have to back out of her being in the standard banner, I think. Its just so mindblowing that DEHYA out of nowhere, for some unknown or arbitrary reason, gets this treatment. Wanderer was underwhelming but is viable, Alhaitham is pretty good, so why this treatment all of the sudden? Why break precedent and have 2 pyro claymores on the standard banner? And the worst part is that Dehya fans will now essentially HAVE to pull for her during her focus banner for constellations, because once she's on standard, it'll be extremely unreliable to get her. I want everyone who cares to blow up their forums, surveys, and all possible avenues of feedback, but I really don't know if it will matter. But I know they do notice because they even mentioned the anti-aliasing settings issue a while ago. Its just so weird and feels really mind-fucky that they just fucked over Dehya for seemingly no reason.
@kokosigar4536 Жыл бұрын
I think the worst part is that they made her so bad that it brings down the standard banner reputation even further xD. Like I strongly feel they should have just made her power level be the same as older 5 star units even if they intended to drop her on the standard banner .After that they can release some meta char on the limited banner instead of this insane power leak going on. People can only lose and get sick of so many bad 50/50 units before they can't take it.
@liquidefreet Жыл бұрын
Not a Liyue character or an Honkai expy so there's litteraly 0.00000% for her to ever see a buff or a fix of any kind. Now Mihoyo, make me a liar. I triple dare you, make my post age like milk (please).
@Ben-vg6ox Жыл бұрын
I honestly believe it's pure incompetence from the gameplay team for Genshin
@kibathefang6022 Жыл бұрын
Albedo has more DPS and he's there for like 1 second. And he also provides damage mitigation through crystallized shields.
@shibainu1428 Жыл бұрын
its not even mitigation its just straight up prevention XD
@scyi.3665 Жыл бұрын
@@shibainu1428 meh crystallized shields suck though
@shibainu1428 Жыл бұрын
@@scyi.3665 so does dehya what's your point 💀
@aoitakumi9081 Жыл бұрын
@@scyi.3665 Albedo provides off field damage which Dehya cannot, he gives ER back, has 100% uptime on his E and the bonus of crystalized shield for survivability. Dehya can only provide some fire and hp
@schwarzwaldbrot8487 Жыл бұрын
@@shibainu1428 Why Albedo is better: -Can use geo resonance which buffs himself and your active character -Has a 4s cooldown on a 30s duration ability with massive range -Gives you 125 EM by simply using his burst -Actually does damage
@lexam8320 Жыл бұрын
Them using her to enable Ganyu melt and she failing is the best description of this character
@prinnyDooD. Жыл бұрын
imagine when walrus saw that ganyu melt video, "i knew it, dehya will be melt ganyu comp" 🤣
@mike81356 Жыл бұрын
@@prinnyDooD. Watching Walrus OHNO
@silvion90 Жыл бұрын
When I saw that Primal Construct get the melt, then not get hit with Pyro again, I was rolling on floor at work
@prinnyDooD. Жыл бұрын
@@mike81356 got spammed by recommendation from that channel lol blocked it with mtash 🤣
@user-vr8qd4hk6y Жыл бұрын
@@prinnyDooD. Please don't even mention this channels... Let's focus on what is worth attention.
@drogozi3308 Жыл бұрын
The character that i was by far the most excited for.... this hurts man.
@senseisky Жыл бұрын
Welp... Now get excited for Fontaine instead
@R.Sinnia Жыл бұрын
@@nana-wv3wk at least get C0 Yelan *if* you like her character playstyle and design She's a really worthwhile character for your account, meta wise
@drogozi3308 Жыл бұрын
@@senseisky By then i'll have like over 600 wishes saved up💀
@webbedshadow2601 Жыл бұрын
miHoYo saved the (absolutely not) best Sumeru 5* character for last... 🤡 When Dehya's banner starts it will have been 7 months from reveal to release as a playable character, she and everyone who's been waiting for her deserves way better than the crappy kit they gave her...
@user-gc9ef2np1e Жыл бұрын
True. True...
@cheesypoohalo Жыл бұрын
I can't believe I waited months for... this. They gave her the Xinyan/Candace treatment, like god damn.
@justsomeguy727 Жыл бұрын
Get in line ? There's tons of people who were excited for Passenger in Arknights too and they also ended up being pretty ass. How are y'all acting like "I waited months for this" = " I'm owed something good " lmao it's like y'all forgot this is a predatory gacha company, not your next door neighbor you ask for sugar.
@cheesypoohalo Жыл бұрын
@@justsomeguy727 I'm not following, is your point really as simple as 'people should not be disappointed by the decisions made by a company'? Why? If people were hyped for a new product, like a new iPhone, and Apple failed to deliver to their expectations, would it really be so wrong for people to complain about it on the internet? What are you, the social media police?
@wasabi926 Жыл бұрын
@@justsomeguy727 then again passenger got buffed by quite a bit and he's now one of the better casters in the game.
@TheCsDragonFire Жыл бұрын
@@justsomeguy727 the difference is that passenger with the new modules and the new game mode has become very useful, Dehya will hardly get the same treatment
@cristopher5837 Жыл бұрын
Passenger with module + SP collectible is broken on IS2 ngl
@Matthew-qt3jk Жыл бұрын
I remember people skipping Cyno, Wanderer and Alhaitham because their expectations were high that Dehya will be broken because of 'waifu bias', 'mihoyo hating male characters' etc. etc. etc.
@bang9088 Жыл бұрын
i feel bad for them :(
@azalea9409 Жыл бұрын
When I first saw her I nearly fell into the waifu trap but I'm so glad that I decided just to pull for as many 3.0 characters that I can. I honestly thought that after the whole Alhaitham nerf thing (which even isn't that bad) they would never make an waifu character bad. I was wrong. We were wrong. If a character looks good and has a good personality I'll just get them rather than saving 400 pulls for a mediocre unit even at c6.
@shiroeikami8467 Жыл бұрын
I skip Nahida and chances to get both Faruzan+Gorou pack to get close c6 on top of all Sumeru. I never expect Dehya to be good, but at least can keep up with Xiangling on different team. But yeah, Qiqi clam actually better, Xinyan actually better, that's not cat ear but hair, OH STANDARD BANNER. All hope is lost. At least Yelan and Hutao banner still running atm and Ayaka on 2nd part of next patch for us who gave up.
@maxxvii2037 Жыл бұрын
Waifu bias doesn't work on brown characters PepeLa
@ChrisSmith-tu9bu Жыл бұрын
Well Cyno is an easy skip regardless but man that's wild especially considering how good Al-Haitham is....I skipped wanderer for Raiden and Al-Haitham for Yelan which Im happy about and now I can Skip Dehya for Ayaka lol
@lokrj Жыл бұрын
What even is the point of HP% as ascension stats if majority of her damage still scales off ATK% BY A HUGE MARGIN 🤡
@Charmlie.R Жыл бұрын
Defensive utility, i guess harder to die off field At least thats the only idea i can think of
@ushiima Жыл бұрын
idk maybe c1
@hollow6189 Жыл бұрын
they want you to pull for cons to make her less shit
@jsw973 Жыл бұрын
@@ushiima well, Ayato doesn't have hp% ascension just cuz his C2 makes hp much better
@twistedfate9475 Жыл бұрын
@@Charmlie.R until you realise they make her loose the damage reduction when she goes on field and do her burst + the damage she already taken for her allies, she probably gonna die if you aren't careful lol
@SHG3110 Жыл бұрын
Let's be real Hoyoverse made Dehya for the hardcore players so they can feel like the abyss is somewhat difficult ☠️
@user-vr8qd4hk6y Жыл бұрын
Well, that is not bad idea, since hyperbloom simply broke the game. No, really broke, now it's brain-dead friendly and ok investment is enough. Add brain dead Ayato' playstyle and Nilou's 'use this and that' kit to the picture...
@jijidu69 Жыл бұрын
@@user-vr8qd4hk6y Hyperbloom truly broke the game it's given us an easy mode to an easy game
@sense6472 Жыл бұрын
@@user-vr8qd4hk6ywow that is really incoherent
@UtaminoUta Жыл бұрын
Yup, she made for me
@skybattler2624 Жыл бұрын
@@user-vr8qd4hk6y Nilou's use for Hyperbloom ain't that great. Better to use some else instead.
@kueapel911 Жыл бұрын
I'm surprised on how forgiving people are with this atrocity. I guess mega corporations always win in the end huh?
@AlexKeal Жыл бұрын
The only arguably "challenging" part of genshin is the spiral abyss, which most casual players don't even put effort into since it only gives like 3.75 of a wish per 2 weeks. You can pretty much get by with any character in open world or against the story bosses. It's not far fetched for some people to look over an objectively weak unit if they like the design and personality of the character itself. Some people don't really care so they don't mind if mihoyo "ruined" her stat-wise. Point being, it's not surprising at all, I can see how this sucks for people who focus on the combat aspect but I can also see how this means jack shit to people who just play the game for the other aspects available aside from the combat stuff. Edit: I'm also super glad they put her into standard banner, this means I don't have to use my Eula funds on her and just hope I get her down the line losing a 50/50. Though the prospect is scary of being so unfortunate and getting every standard banner character except Dehya in losing 50/50.
@dire213 Жыл бұрын
dehya is the perfect character to make as a burgeon-focused character because she's the first pyro to be released in the sumeru/dendro patch but nah... fuck it, i guess.
@googlrscholar Жыл бұрын
couldve also been something like a nilou for burning. yeah it might not be good but atleast she has a purpose
@webbedshadow2601 Жыл бұрын
When I saw Dehya I hoped she'd be 5* Xiangling or Pyro Beidou at best, and Burgeon only char at worst- BUT HOYO DECIDED SHE SHOULD BE NONE OF THOSE THINGS
@jsw973 Жыл бұрын
@@googlrscholar yeahh, her reducing burning dmg to acceptable self dmg (you know, cuz she bodyguard) and buffing its dmg to enemies somehow would be VERY welcome. I would prefer if she doesn't have Nilou-esque restrictions for that but hey, I'd still prefer that much more than whatever she is now.
@luminous3558 Жыл бұрын
Her being a defensive unit is cool, just make her less sh#t. Give her E perfect uptime or more like albedo/raiden, remove her atk% MVs for hp% ones with more power, give her a burst that has any sort of functionality beyond dmg or at least make it 40 cost.
@Yoanka Жыл бұрын
@@webbedshadow2601 Exactly! I was thinking along the lines of how I'm enjoying Bennett/Razor Burgeon (and co.) so I'd rather she wasn't a Burgeon unit that simply upstages them, but it seems I forgot to specify I'd like her to be used for something at all.
@SC2Prototype Жыл бұрын
Saved for Deyha for months, decided to get Yelan + Her bow instead. i think, i made the right decision
@matias3542 Жыл бұрын
Massive W
@fluorescent_shrimp Жыл бұрын
Should've gone for Alhaitham
@mike81356 Жыл бұрын
Yelan is a massive W for your acc and is also nice for overworld exploration too.
@sergimarch8874 Жыл бұрын
Yelan is amazing! Won't regret of your decision
@KiddCono Жыл бұрын
I wanted Dehya... I also thought about getting Yelan but with hydro nation right around the corner I might just wait in case I prefer a different Hydro character instead of Waifu Xingchiu.
@a200037 Жыл бұрын
I keep coming back every day to watch the first 7 seconds. It's a truly legendary intro, props to Zajef, to the editor and to whoever made the dancing chibi dehya gif.
@notjcole Жыл бұрын
As a diluc main, my new worst fear is losing a 50/50 to dehya
@pyronado4320 Жыл бұрын
She's the only sumeru character I was excited for from a waifu/non-performance perspective. It's just depressing
@ncoebilly1311 Жыл бұрын
sameeee :(
@mushokueien8148 Жыл бұрын
@@ncoebilly1311 painfully same
@mushokueien8148 Жыл бұрын
@@bobjones1934 lmao dude you have problems with head go see psychiatrist
@chakaraninjaltc Жыл бұрын
same dude, i really want to overlook her kit but the a gamer inside me just can't make me pull for her
@Accomplish305 Жыл бұрын
So far with this game, it always has been like this for me. It's either the character design is so meh, or it is good but with trash kits/ boring kit. Been playing since 1.0 and I still don't main anyone. How much I would love if Azure lane, fate, arknights, blue archive had similar combat system as in Genshin, at least it would be more likely in those games to find a character that is both aesthetically and gameplay-wise great and worth the money/game currency. 🙄
@guidomista5738 Жыл бұрын
Dude this intro deserves to be on CrunchyRoll anime awards
@shradgamer8116 Жыл бұрын
I know Right? I legit cracked up 😂😂
@mike81356 Жыл бұрын
Yakuza Games are so underrated. More people should try them out cause they’re easily worth it.
@ciciosweep Жыл бұрын
But Yakuza 0 is not an anime, jikes
@guidomista5738 Жыл бұрын
@@ciciosweep intro is animated. Anime comes from word "animation" not "Yakuza 0". I know what is this game. I read this goofy "jikes" in Shaggy voice, this word as oopsie-daisy belongs to Scooby Doo or similar silly shows.
@-Theo- Жыл бұрын
Remember when Elden Ring first came out and some Genshin fans said they wished the game’s open world could be as hard? Well generous Hoyoverse heard their calls, all they have to do is pull for Dehya and Genshin open world will become Elden Ring levels of difficulty! How nice of them, this was the true end game content all along!
@Panocek Жыл бұрын
Easier version of that, just take off artifacts off characters.
@PenguinsAreColdish Жыл бұрын
@@Panocek nah the enemies are still braindead and attack once every 10 seconds
@thesupershinymegagengar2034 Жыл бұрын
@@PenguinsAreColdish There are more enemies than just hilichurls and slimes, you know that, right?
@PenguinsAreColdish Жыл бұрын
@@thesupershinymegagengar2034 i’m very aware
@theianeia Жыл бұрын
Honestly I would've loved if Dehya is a burgeon focused character like how Nilou is for bloom. I don't care if a character is niche, as long as they're strong in that niche. It's certainly would've been better than whatever Dehya's kit right now.
@jsw973 Жыл бұрын
It would suck if a niche character enters standard banner though... Imagine soneone pulling for their 1st or 2nd 5 star, then losing to a unit that's only functional in one(1) team comp that's only good at AoE. That would hurt.
@Infernaladmiral Жыл бұрын
Well as much as I hate niche characters like Nilou, I think it'd be far more fucking better than what we're getting right now. Better to get a character that atleast does something in their niche than not do any fucking thing at all.
@luminous3558 Жыл бұрын
@@jsw973 tbf imagine pulling dehya in her current state.
@i_like_lemons Жыл бұрын
@@Infernaladmiral I love Nilou so much and I don't understand people who hate Nilou because she's "niche" then worship Itto as if he's not locked in triple geo or Eula as if she's not locked with at least one electro for superconduct and one cryo teammate for battery. I understand if you don't like her character, but seeing "Niche" as a reason for hate is fucking weird. Every single character have one or two teams they're optimal in, and that doesn't change for Nilou.
@jsw973 Жыл бұрын
@@luminous3558 yeah I guess that's true... pulling a jack for one trade is better than a jack of none
@lyras.9161 Жыл бұрын
I can't believe they did her so dirty. She's such a fucking cool character, and Amber does an amazing job bringing life to her. Really disappointing. I guess our only hope is that they buff her in the future.
@Ivy-jq6di Жыл бұрын
Unlikely. Standard characters are usually forgotten in terms of new artifacts. Hoyo also stated that they’re never buffing post release like zhongli ever again
@w3lcom39 Жыл бұрын
@@Ivy-jq6di I really hope nobody pulls on her limited banner. Show Hoyoverse that if they serious couldn’t care less about making a character people want to pull for and enjoy using then as a consequence nobody will pull or spend money.
@Everdistance Жыл бұрын
@@w3lcom39 They're putting her on the standard banner after her limited banner because they've already assumed nobody cares about her and that she won't make money. There's a reason they're doing this with her and not, say, Nilou or Alhaitham.
@airouminami Жыл бұрын
@@Everdistance they jast failed with her. Many people waited her from start of 3.0
@webbedshadow2601 Жыл бұрын
@@Ivy-jq6di Fuuuuuuu that SUCKS I was just thinking they could save Dehya if everyone complained and got into an uproar like with Zhongli, she just needs a numbers & ICD buff to save the kit but fat chance of that happening
@vladimirk7686 Жыл бұрын
I pulled a Dehya I pulled a Dehya I pulled a Dehya I'm not feeling very good I pulled a Dehya Lost 50/50 At 90 pity Not even Qiqi And now I'm out of primogems 😭😭😭
@shenhe_best_girl5351 Жыл бұрын
Pog new song
@tix8699 Жыл бұрын
Qiqi can be good
@eggtoastcrunch Жыл бұрын
Pls as a future Dehya main this breaks my heart 😭💀
@rumuelnathanael8043 Жыл бұрын
Don't worry. If you get C2 Dehya you'll be good 👍
@Nomolun_Vr Жыл бұрын
@@eggtoastcrunch Just ignore them dude, if you love a character invest into them. Don't let meta peeps bring down something you love.
@poplo9094 Жыл бұрын
One of my many issues with her kit is that I have trouble understanding is why they called her skill's effect a "mitigation" when it's a damage TRANSFER. She only has the ability to mitigate damage that has been transferred to her, and even then, it requires her to retake the field and either recast her skill or activate burst. Also, as unlikely as it is, she can transfer 200% of her own max HP to herself, but only heals 50%? If she starts with lower HP (say 50%), she runs a serious risk of just killing herself with her own mechanic. "She's going on standard banner" doesn't come close to justifying how bad this kit is, even on an internal level.
@Axterix13 Жыл бұрын
The higher cap on the ability compared to her self heal kind of makes sense. It is there to allow for healers that heal the off-field team, as well as Dehya receiving on-field healing from an off-field healer.
@poplo9094 Жыл бұрын
@Axterix13 While I understand that, because she doesn't fully protect your on-field character to begin with if you run a healer that only hits the on-fielder, such as Bennett or Diona, you then get stuck with choosing who to heal. If you heal your main on-fielder, Dehya is reliant primarily on her own healing to fight against however much her transfer has grabbed, which could be rough depending on her start point because of how much more her transfer is able to grab than she is capable of healing. If you heal Dehya, then your on-fielder gets left in a more precarious situation. It also means eating up even more time for healing, either by making Dehya or the healer stay on more often to cover for her insufficiencies. I really have trouble thinking of any other characters with so many obvious flaws. On the bright side (for me) them releasing a character this poorly designed is enough to get me to quit the game entirely. I'll play through 3.5 as a final chance, but when that survey comes up, I'll probably just lay out my thoughts on how they waste the potential the game has and be done.
@ashelade Жыл бұрын
The bit about standard characters not having real hope for buffs feels frustratingly true - Mona's C1 still doesn't even work with Dendro reactions even after a 3* weapon was updated to include them. They (generally) just feel forgotten and/or left-behind
@lafeechloe6998 Жыл бұрын
C1 mona is bugged and doesnt even increase the freeze time like its written… ~ ~’
@_awooga8551 Жыл бұрын
Rest in Peace Dehya-Saver
@KHFreack Жыл бұрын
eh still alive
@JEREMAIAHJONES Жыл бұрын
Time to pull cyno 🙏💀
@_awooga8551 Жыл бұрын
@@JEREMAIAHJONES NOOO DONT, THATS EVEN WORSE
@mike81356 Жыл бұрын
Tbf if you really like Dehya, then it’s still better to pull her limited banner since it’d be 50/50 with guaranteed vs trying to luck sac losing 50/50 and win a 1/7 odds
@JEREMAIAHJONES Жыл бұрын
@@_awooga8551 tf u mean "worse" have u seen dehya? 💀 everyone who says cyno is bad doesent have him built.
@Apricot_418 Жыл бұрын
I wish Mr. Editor kept the part from the stream where he says "I've seen a lot of people saying Dehya's really bad... They're right." Would've been truly the Jebait of all time.
@vjredline9242 Жыл бұрын
Wow even mihoyo knows how bad they did… such a huge shame. All they had to do was give her a special buff to burning or triggering multiple burgeons at once, just how nilou gets her special blooms. Guess I’m finally leveling my xianglibg haha
@ziebus904 Жыл бұрын
They wanted her to be shit...
@leka2095 Жыл бұрын
all roads lead back to xiangling.
@justsomeguy727 Жыл бұрын
Leveling up xiangling just to use her in like 1-2 teams , if that. 💀
@Graerth Жыл бұрын
I mean there are so many different ways to go wild (which would be cool for her theme). Fuck, reduce ICD from everything during her burst, or allow her burst to gain benefits/proc both Normal Attack and Burst damage benefits. She'd still have ER costs as restrictions and it'd be a large buildup, but it'd be a really cool fireworks for that few seconds of every rotation.
@jsw973 Жыл бұрын
@@justsomeguy727 This guy has never seen any videos talking about Xiangling. She's got as much teams as she has polearm options.
@firelight3806 Жыл бұрын
Unpopular opinion but I personally would not spend money on a obviously flawed character. I don't want to reward HYV's balance team's laziness for shafting a character so unbelievably hard. HYV only listens to wallets and not our complaints. Our last resort is to use money to signal to HYV that this is unacceptable.
@justsomeguy727 Жыл бұрын
You'd have a field day if you ever found out how many gacha games make dogshit characters every now and then. It's not "laziness" it's a conscious decision because they're a predatory company trying to bait people. There's a difference between being lazy and just deliberately choosing to do something / act a particular way.
@shenhe_best_girl5351 Жыл бұрын
and also the reason they put shenhe + ayaka which best unit for freeze and yeh they already knew about it....make ppl spend
@nightmarerex2035 Жыл бұрын
would have to find a universe where therrse no whales and everybody buys welkin moon and nothign else.
@chalk._. Жыл бұрын
It just makes it worse that her banner is being sandwiched between two high selling banners (Hu tao + yelan Def gonna be highest selling to date/ one of the best cryo dps and her best support) so I think taht they'd expect to not get that much revenue from it regardless
@Aceleo209 Жыл бұрын
I respect whales for generally supporting this f2p game but whales like you are a cut above
@mike81356 Жыл бұрын
Tfw Zajeff is considering getting Dehya Cons in order to buff Dehya closer to a C0 5* 💀
@housecanrun9198 Жыл бұрын
i think that was before they anncounced her to standard banner. Zajef would literally be contradicting the entire theme of his channel by wasting primos on cons.
@azalea9409 Жыл бұрын
@@housecanrun9198 Yeah at the time he thought that she was limited.
@jsw973 Жыл бұрын
@@housecanrun9198 He's not planning to spend any money though, so I don't think that'd be him contradicting what he says almost every video.
@princepecanpiemc518 Жыл бұрын
Forget the pre-release of Dehya, I'm just looking at Zajef hit that corner, made me believe that we can save humanity using primogems.
@vjredline9242 Жыл бұрын
At least we can look forward to Zajef voice acting of her haha
@Sunhwk Жыл бұрын
The slow zoom in when he talked about reruns had me dying. 😅 yeah Dehya was a character that I really wanted to get in a future rerun, but after she was added to standard banner, I guess I'll get her when I get her considering how terrible her whole kit is.
@IDKbruh420 Жыл бұрын
c0 dehya being weaker than most c0 4 stars is beyond stupid
@fat4eyes Жыл бұрын
So bad she's on standard banner
@hem1525 Жыл бұрын
Tighnari?
@opressora2436 Жыл бұрын
It's actually good to have more characters on Standar, we still don't have enough actually
@cosmictrainer2919 Жыл бұрын
I mean tighnari is also there but ig it makes sense they probably thought they made a damn strong standard banner character so next one was made trash. I am pissed chances of getting tighnari is lower now ahhh
@AA-cf4es Жыл бұрын
Tighnari is great and he's on the standard...
@cosmictrainer2919 Жыл бұрын
@@opressora2436 chances of getting godnari reduced ahh
@LauriamXV Жыл бұрын
Bruh they absolutely massacred her, I’m getting so tired of needing artefacts to fix characters. Release functional characters.
@jsw973 Жыл бұрын
H*yoverse: Oh, dysfunctional Lyney with dedicated support Lynette that needs 450 ER you say?
@MultiracialLion Жыл бұрын
Our Father who art in heaven...hear me out, man, please. I beg of you. There's this video game, Mr. God, sir. It's called Genshin Impact. A lot of the time, it really sucks, but sometimes, it's really cool. And in this video game, there's this character that's going to be released soon that I think is pretty nifty. Quite fun. Very cool. Like, triple thumbs up. And it would be really nice if she wasn't the antichrist. That's all I'm saying, all right? Just...don't make her the antichrist, please.
@superTowel Жыл бұрын
up until the point they revealed her kit, i had a tiny hope that she would be decent later down the line. But then they said those cursed words, " from 3.5 dehya will be added to standard banner"and i felt that thing weighing on top of chest just become 10 times heavier
@azalea9409 Жыл бұрын
Here's some copium. Keqing was pretty bad from 1.0 to 2.8 so maybe just maybe in Fontaine she'll be good?
@sweetbabyrayso5262 Жыл бұрын
@@azalea9409 keqing got a new element with new reactions
@fansim6110 Жыл бұрын
@@azalea9409 keqing was good because of a whole fcking element, not just a single character
@azalea9409 Жыл бұрын
@@fansim6110 Yeah I understand that. What I'm saying is maybe in Fontaine the meta will be flipped on its head again just like how dendro did it. But it is hard to see any buffs to her also not affecting other pyro characters useless it's made specifically for her but because she's a standard banner character Hoyo doesn't have a reason to do that since she'll likely will never have another limited banner. They essentially gave up on her kit. Also when I say Fontaine I don't mean just the archon but the entirety of the 4.0 roster. Dendro was completed as an element quite quickly so maybe a new hp nieche in fontaine will be cover by multiple characters in just a few months like dendro was.
@fansim6110 Жыл бұрын
@@azalea9409 sounds copium, but hope so
@PussInBoots3 Жыл бұрын
Mihoyo really saw she was gonna be bad and rather than buff her, they threw her in the standard banner to die. Holy shit
@ziebus904 Жыл бұрын
Dude...orders like those are like weeks months before it happens...you think they "oh shes bad so go on standard"?....
@sweetbabyrayso5262 Жыл бұрын
@@ziebus904 yes they definitely did this time.
@justsomeguy727 Жыл бұрын
@@sweetbabyrayso5262 proof ?
@redactedseed7114 Жыл бұрын
@@justsomeguy727 tighnari on beta was announced early to be on standard.
@sweetbabyrayso5262 Жыл бұрын
@@justsomeguy727 like the other guy said. tighnari was always leaked to be on standard pretty early into the beta and was confirmed by many leakers while dehya becoming standard was only leak by a few people and only one of them made a reddit post about. which nobody believed
@Chris-sk6px Жыл бұрын
One of the most sad and skippable characters releases I've seen yet, the fact that she's thrown into the Standard Banner immediately after is a slap in the face, man, they did her dirty, I don't think Tighnari was nearly that poorly treated even. This also demonstrates just how good Thoma is, he sharply rose to the spotlight since Dendro, Xinyan is able to compete against her, Diluc outdamages her despite his numbers being outdated, and if compared to Zhongli, Dehya is like him but with extra steps. If you think about it, Dehya is a jack of all trades, master of none kind of deal, a poor one at that. Edit: Tighnari's situation is indeed different than Dehya's and it's a lot more reasonable as an introductory Dendro character, he is also quite strong. Although it's true that Thoma is still underwhelming, his Burgeon build isn't a bad option compared to other Pyro units in terms of consistency. Which makes me think, we will soon have 2 five star pyro claymore units on the standard banner, quite odd considering that there is still no 5 star geo unit yet in there *looking at Albedo.
@awacsrazgriz967 Жыл бұрын
comparing her to tighnari is like comparing aloy to ganyu. tighnari is so much better and a really good dendro dps. dehya is...definitely a disappointment
@R.Sinnia Жыл бұрын
Tighnari wasn't even poorly treated tho? He got buffed during Beta phase despite the fact people knew that he'll be in Standard months before he even got drip marketed They added Tighnari to Standard just cuz Dendro is new and they felt it is necessary to make 1 Dendro 5 star unit to be available all the time (no idea why they haven't put a single Geo one still) He's a strong Dendro DPS with good constellations, Dehya is just got awful with above average constellations which put her near other C0 units while she's at C6...
@awacsrazgriz967 Жыл бұрын
@@R.Sinnia The reason they prioritized dendro over geo was because geo already has a couple of good 4 star geo units that are fairly easy to obtain (Ning, Noelle, Gorou) Geo is also an element that doesnt care about reactions while dendro is heavily reaction based/dependant.
@Progeusz Жыл бұрын
No, Thoma isn't good and never reached the spotlight. He only went from absolute garbage to being usable. If you look at Thoma's counterparts on the other color, Kuki and Raiden hyperbloom, he's nowhere close those two. Thoma is only hyped as a burgeon dps because no other chara is interested in burgeon. Thoma isn't good. He's simply less bad at that specific role. If you specifically want a defensive pyro unit aside from Bennett, Tankfei is much more reliable than Thoma.
@holacom363 Жыл бұрын
idk man, keqing was also very skippable
@timmythh Жыл бұрын
Bro imagine the money they couldve made if they just gave her a good kit 😭😭💀
@Dystricts Жыл бұрын
The thumbnail of this video + intro with the two Dehya's grooving is golden. Props to whoever edited this.
@GoobieWoobie69 Жыл бұрын
i was so curious why hoyo was making her so bad and not buffing her but the fact that shes a standard banner makes so much sense now.
@user-bx7ow5zn5u Жыл бұрын
std banner != trash bin
@nyooang Жыл бұрын
but I wonder what made them want to put her in the standard banner in the first place?? no matter how I look at it, it just doesn't make sense. we don't even have a geo character there, so I have to wonder if they plan on making standard banner updates more frequent now...
@Verosa1410 Жыл бұрын
@@nyooang I hate people that always associate everything with racism and this is getting into too much conspiracy for my liking, but it's not exactly a secret how china is so against having dark skin characters in their entertainment. The dev has love for dehya, which shows in her design and animation. They care. But their Chinese overlord doesn't like it, and long story short, here we are. The dev probably doesn't want to put her in standard at first, but at this point with her lackluster kit, there's no other choice. Again, I honestly don't like this theory of mine. But I can't seem to grasp the logic behind their moves, except that their Chinese overlord forces them.
@rofl_waffl Жыл бұрын
@Verosa Xinyan, Candace, Dehya... it could 100% just be a coincidence but... it's really not looking good 😩😩
@nuzhatmaliat9258 Жыл бұрын
@@nyooang my assumption is that they didn't plan her initially to be standard banner. Rmb after alhaitham release (who got doomposted for some beta nerfs) they busted ALOT of leakers into oblivion and safelocked dehyas anims, action and multipliers for a long time. This actually hyped her more bc of the mystery and players assumed she'll be more op than alhaitham. If dehya was meant for standard mhy wouldn't go through this length. Mhy's tactic was prolly selling a low effort kit charac via keeping them hidden/unleaked (so no one could decide if she's actually worth pulls). By the time players would find out she's not that great, they can't do anything but set on rolling for other characs next banners OR get her c1 like raiden with her c2(steady sales flow, tho scummy) But that plan failed as ppl were still able to leak it and avoid mhy's bull**** marketing scheme. So they resorted to selling her on standard to avoid the zhongli launch complains. Why they chose std banner over buffing her? Idk tbh. Sth abt this felt personal tho.
@alibanimalek3578 Жыл бұрын
I really appreciate the editing quality. Normally I wouldn't watch a 40 minutes video but the editing and the overall quality of the video made me sit through. Kudos to the editor.
@Flakii Жыл бұрын
no wonder she has an idle fixing her makeup, she's just there to be pretty 😭
@fivefourtwo4498 Жыл бұрын
She was my favorite character since I started the game in 2.8. Frankly I'm in "go f2p or quit the game" territory.
@eugeneseguin5662 Жыл бұрын
The final buffs that dehya received is her being on standard banner.
@gler3179 Жыл бұрын
kudos to the editor - they're fucking amazing and i hope they get paid well, because they deserve it. i do hope zajef went to Bedge and that his hands feel fine tmrw. YT peeps, check today's VOD for some Piano Quality Time and singing! you're missing out. still watching for now, but imo the pre-release dmg calcs can fall a little flat if you're not familiar with average damage of other (when invested into) pyro damage dealers/don't do much abyss; i hope the post-release will have a direct comparison to xinyan/diluc/anyone else, though ofc it's up to zajef. i doubt the usual audience would struggle, but there might be new people flocking in looking to confirm she is... not goodge.
@CaptinSpyke Жыл бұрын
from my understanding she literally gets outdamaged by xinyan in mono pyro and gets obliterated by diluc vape/overvape 💀so dont even bother with xiangling or hutao or yoimiya
@giupondchester1273 Жыл бұрын
I was waiting for this video and as i expected the team part gave me depression. I waited 5 patches for her, thank you Zajef for making me face reality 😭
@tracycuevas940 Жыл бұрын
This is for the people who're always pushing the statement "waifu over meta".
@nowifi8063 Жыл бұрын
Not when she’s below the average character 😂😢
@febbbm2002 Жыл бұрын
Yeah but this character is borderline useless lol. It only works for mid or kinda weak units like Yae Miko (but now she has found her place in dendro)
@henryswims Жыл бұрын
Chongyun has higher normal attacking Scaling.. On field chongyun becoming more meta, one claymore character at a time.
@sharkeatinpizza Жыл бұрын
The difference is despite his low scaling, his kit is actually functional and synergies well with other supports
@quangamng Жыл бұрын
@@sharkeatinpizza ehem ,og national
@geebeepman Жыл бұрын
if dehya is keeping her low numbers on release, then her heading straight to standard banner makes a lot of sense. in my case, what sucks about adding dehya to standard banner is there'll be less chance of getting tighnari cons; or the many 5 star standard banner weapons I've yet to have.
@user-vr8qd4hk6y Жыл бұрын
Cons?? You are spending a lot, I guess. For f2p and low spenders it's a matter of chances to just get standard 5* they want...
@sagearbor9414 Жыл бұрын
At least there’s a less chance we’ll be Qiqi’d 😭
@blazikenfury8852 Жыл бұрын
The way the standard banner works is you get a character/weapon then u get the opposite next..... This cycle breaks sometimes but then the next is guaranteed the other..... So if u get 2 characters back to back, the next is guaranteed a weapon..... So Dehya isn't really competing with weapons she's with the other standard characters
@danisetsuna8312 Жыл бұрын
Same, to me I was totally OK with her being limited because I could skip her, but if she's standards she's like diluting the pool that contains Tighnari cons, skyward Harp, wolf's gravestone and other things. And people who like her will have a harder time getting her jn the future. Kinda a lose-lose situation.
@user-vr8qd4hk6y Жыл бұрын
@@sagearbor9414 Qiqi is nice in hyperbloom and mono-cryo, what do you mean? Best healer in the game and decent sub-dps with clam set. It's not unit like Xinyan, chill.
@AzaratheDragon Жыл бұрын
I knew her scaling's were bad (been lurking in the leak thread for the past month), but her NA's are worse than Chongyun's. Thats.... Chongyun HAD the lowest NA scaling's of the claymore users, so for her, a 5 star to be worse than the lowest scaling 4 star is fucking abysmal. What the actual fuck. Ripperonis Dehya. You will be missed, cant wait for you to ruin my 50/50 and deny me the standard characters I do want. (Curse you Tighnari and Diluc. SMH, got a stupid lvl 90 R2 WGS and noone to use it. Lmao.)
@axeladd1274 Жыл бұрын
How did they make a 5 star worst than two of the worst 4 stars in the game?
@goodguymisty Жыл бұрын
she definitely will be good once the hydro archon comes out right? right zajef right? I SAVED FOR 5 MONTHS I SKIPPED EVERY SUMERU CHARACTERS WHAT DO I DO
@dire213 Жыл бұрын
:(
@murlocstone4338 Жыл бұрын
Cry in the corner
@CreationsFlare Жыл бұрын
Wait for her rerun to see if Foculors will fix her.
@NexusGamerss Жыл бұрын
Well if you regret skipping the others Sumeru characters, Cyno is right beside her
@Blade.5786 Жыл бұрын
Hydro Archon will buff Max HP and make the entire party scale off HP, making Dehya's ascension stat very valuable. Source: My uncle works at Mihoyo trust
@dannielblo1602 Жыл бұрын
i literally fell on my knees when i found out shes going to be standard and when I found out abt her multipliers. shes the reason why I played this godforesaken game in the first place and I'm being met with the worse possible outcome.
@oyfum2638 Жыл бұрын
Damn, surely they won’t do Focalors and Columbina like this right? Cuz their the reasons IM still playing this game.
@knmrt2760 Жыл бұрын
I'm sorry for your loss mate ... On the "positive" side you can get a chance to get her cons everytime mihoyo smites your 50/50...
@reditahafsa7148 Жыл бұрын
@@oyfum2638 focalors is a archon so by default she'll be great. About Columbina God knows
@oyfum2638 Жыл бұрын
@@reditahafsa7148 I’d honestly rather have them kill off Columbina and give her the Signora treatment than having her get the Dehya treatment
@gnuhgnauqneyugn Жыл бұрын
@@oyfum2638 The 2 harbingers we got are somewhat unique with their playstyles, and quite decent when it comes to meta, so maybe she'll be interesting as well..? **inhales copium**
@MASTER_AL Жыл бұрын
On an good note, we were right, hoyo would not release a limited unit THAT bad.... Yet
@spectacularrobotToys Жыл бұрын
Hoyoverse: We made Dehya different. Me: So how do you use her? Hoyoverse: That's the neat part. You don't
@Tyler_Not_Taylor Жыл бұрын
Teapot Meta LET’S GOOOOO
@AirwickM Жыл бұрын
I'm at the acceptance phase, with a hint of depression. I think in the future I'll look back on Dehya and have a nice laugh that Hoyoverse can get away with a kit this bad.
@justsomeguy727 Жыл бұрын
Acting like it's a Hoyo exclusive thing when every gacha game has a character or two (some even more than that lmao) that are just as dogshit is some of the goofiest shit I've ever seen out of this playerbase. Even beyond gacha games too. *All* games are like that
@Venom-uv5fw Жыл бұрын
@@justsomeguy727 we pay them 2 billion dollars a year. And their lazy asses do the bare minimum for us. They dont ever listen to any request we have. And this is the last straw... Dehya wasnt meant to be dogshit. They were so lazy they gave up on her and just made her a standard banner character and she wont ever rerun again. So sorry, but your take is an L.
@AirwickM Жыл бұрын
@@justsomeguy727 Now I'm not a gacha expert (I've only played FGO and Arknights just as religiously as Genshin) but I have never encountered a character at the highest rarity in those games in such an awful state. I'm talking about no or extremely limited synergy with not only the rest of the cast, but also themselves. It's almost like she doesn't have synergy with the game she's being released in. I could go on but I'm sure you understand. Yes, most gachas are different. Yes, I'm sure gacha games release SSR characters that don't perform well. But I could probably guarantee you they have a role in the game. Dehya does not.
@yujiejon Жыл бұрын
Mihoyo was tired of people meme-ing on losing 50/50 to Qiqi so they had to make a 5star worse than her so they could be the new meme queen.
@awesomepieman8760 Жыл бұрын
our expectations were low but HOLY FUCK
@kriszines1244 Жыл бұрын
We used to fear losing our 50/50s to Qiqi (only). Now we can fear losing it to Dehya too.
@ChrisSmith-tu9bu Жыл бұрын
IKR
@nyooang Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't mind losing it to Dehya. Sure, she's weak but at least she has a cool design/personality and isn't just a zombie kid. No offense Qiqi 😭
@kriszines1244 Жыл бұрын
@@nyooang Honestly same and like Zajeef mentioned, at least she will perform "better" with cons. Qiqi cons are garbage on the other hand.
@ChrisSmith-tu9bu Жыл бұрын
@@kriszines1244 I mean with the Clam set QIqi is okay and she makes your party immortal like Zhongli
@Felixr2 Жыл бұрын
Now when we get Qiqi we can say 'at least it wasn't Dehya'
@hopewrld Жыл бұрын
i want to cry. i've been saving for her ever since she was first leaked, now i don't know what to do anymore...
@sharkeatinpizza Жыл бұрын
And this is why you don't place all your eggs in one basket
@Shigatsu- Жыл бұрын
Same dude, i skipped Cybo and Nilou+ all other characters for her , now i have a guaranteed, 40k primos and. Broken heath 😞
@miktxz Жыл бұрын
@@Shigatsu- Well, at least you know for sure that you can get any character you want on a next patch. You can also get Yelan or hu tao now. Don't be discouraged. Yelan is such a great character.
@Shigatsu- Жыл бұрын
@@miktxz oh i know yelan it's great , i pulled for her day 1 of her First banner , I'm still pulling for Dehya tho ,it took me 765 days to get Mona so I'm not testing my luck getting Dehya on a lost 50/50 lmao
@SmHariii Жыл бұрын
Don't worry she is good don't let him disappoint you her dmg is higher
@flamezforthegamez1056 Жыл бұрын
You'd be surprised at how conflicting Dehya's kit and how cruel Dehya's treatment is. Some of what I say you may already know from what Zajef mentions in this or previous Dehya-centered videos. Dehya got Murphy's law exactment. First. poor popularity amongst CN is a bad start as CN has a lot of power over character sales, and thus, HYV's treatment of that character as a revenue source. Then, Dehya gets nerfed in beta. And when the buff mattered, it was actually insignificant, just so it would explain her ascension scaling, instead of shaping the kit around the ascension stat, or shaping the ascension stat around the kit to make sense. Next, Dehya was given the worse caveats for a pyro character and just for any burst or skill. For a vape, personal dmg scaling matters, and vape is a dps role's elemental reaction. Dehya's wasn't there so she wasn't really a vape character, also given that her burst has standard ICD. Dehya's burst as many already know, is an automatic long-yet-short burst animation, similar to Ayaka's. The issue is that current roster needs NA to trigger their ability, such as XIngqiu's =, Yelan's, Yunjin's, Thoma C6's, or any atk speed buffs. It also means she can't dodge in her burst in this fixed state of punching wildly and bludgeoning enemies away. Her burst Burgeon recommends fast pyro to keep up with dendro core production, but nope, Dehya gets 1+1.5s for skill procc rate. That's 1 second longer than needed. But wait, there's more! Dehya's skill isn't even consistent with burst. Doesn't funnel well into burst, especially since Dehya is played off field in skill, and on-field in burst, and burst also takes down her skill which gives her that damage interruption as well as additional particles from skill and more damage alongside her burst. Dehya's skill and burst can't coexist. Dehya can't cast skill while in her burst, and casting burst in her skill will just remove it. Simply put, only one or the other can exist at once. You use her burst, she gives up her skill and whatever perks it has. Cruel and clever way to create conflict between two portions of a kit, making it to where the effects of one and the other can't overlap. Another thing is that the damage mitigation mechanic is capped to half being shared, and that's at lvl 10. How many are gonna crown her skill for half? Team will still need another slot to be occupied by a healer/shielder. Dehya doesn't have any special perk that's exclusive to her like some Crowd control that only anemo would normally possess, nor is it some dmg bonus that is linked to her dmg taken. Thus, she is a flex slot. Hold your horses, there is more. Pretty obvious but Dehya has a pretty long downtime for her skill and her burst, as previously mentioned, picks it up, and repositions it. It doesn't even recast it like Kokomi, Xinyan also, or Fischl. Compared to Albedo, she lacks damage, where Albedo has the based Def scaling, lacks the energy generation Albedo's skill has, quick replacement albeit that Albedo has a breakable skill construct, but also a skill that interacts and coexists with their burst. Lastly, she was put into standard banner, which is quite a demonstration as a seal of fate that says, "not a cash crop; won't be buffed in any way." Dehya truly had thought put into, but for a bad cause. It's more difficult to make a kit that conflicts and contradicts than one that doesn't. Seriously, how does someone create a kit where skills and burst can't coexist? At least Cyno's can and he is also a PoC. Dehya was designed to be as terrible as they could make her to be. 50% damage splitting is not a traditional tanker's job. That's what an inefficent tanker would do in a traditional MMORPG or MOBA. Dehya's kit wasn't/isn't a mess. It's a victim of sabotage. Dehya was sabotaged. It's truly frustrating how a war hero of the archon quest is getting treated this badly intentionally. It isn't even an accident, considering just how carefully constricting the inner-working gears of her kit are in relation to each other. Sickening, yet impressive. It leaves me confused. I don't know whether I should applaud Hoyo for putting up that front or be appalled by the way they treat a character like a totalitarian threat.
@fancymustache3793 Жыл бұрын
She took split scaling to a new level. It was such a new level that if it was a building the first floor is Xinyan bad split scaling and Dehya's goes to the fucking MOON. Its sad, its apalling, its sickening, its infuriating. Its a new Qiqi nobody wants even more than the original
@sst4rscr34m Жыл бұрын
finally, someone who can tell how dehyas gonna be considering leaks and not just the livestream, thank god people like you exist 😭😭😭 i liked dehya the first moment i saw her, wanted her pretty bad and was hoping she would be at least mid cuz i started struggling in abyss, so somewhat aoe vape team would be good to try, and then i saw the leaks and i just died. i love my pyro babbygrill, i really do, but my struggles arent worth getting her on her banner 💔😭⚰️
@davistsang4192 Жыл бұрын
Words can't explain how disappointed I am after the 3.5 stream. As a fan of Dehya and Eula, I lost big time. I am well aware of the meta but I like to stick to my favorite characters and try to give them the best I could. But sometimes it's just tiring. I am not strong enough.jpg
@rudy2538 Жыл бұрын
I still use Eula when I have enough time to reset abyss or till floor 11 lmao
@Progeusz Жыл бұрын
If you thought Mika is good for Eula, reconsider. He's not good. The fact Eula will be on different banner than Mika is a blessing. Mika requires c6 to be a SIDEGRADE to Rosaria while being more restrictive with both team building and enemy compositions. His phys dmg buff is only 10-20% in single target and requires him to hit 4 enemies for the full 40-50% buff. He has severe energy issues and it's hard to play him without third cryo character. Attack speed buff will only add one extra stack to Eula's burst. Characters like Zhongli or Bennett or Diona would have simply been better in many scenarios.
@davistsang4192 Жыл бұрын
@@Progeusz I am well aware. But separating the physical support from the only 5 star physical DPS is just trolling. It's already bad enough that Mika isn't even good. Could've at least put them together so diehard Eula fans can get something new to play around while on their way to C6 Eula. Not to mention Mika does nothing for freeze team players who're going for Ayaka/Shenhe. It's just trolling on both sides. 🤷♂️
@lakelacosero6687 Жыл бұрын
@@davistsang4192 So you prefer dedicated support like Sara,Faruzan and Gorou?
@kimkardashi-un2.051 Жыл бұрын
@@lakelacosero6687 having a dedicated support is good for the game tho? The devs will have a bit more creative freedom and more characters can be created. Overall, I still prefer universal support, but if op is a Eula main, the obviously they want a niche physical support 🤷♀️
@DenkiMatt Жыл бұрын
Good video zajef, good to have an creator who is honest about how the character will feel to the general public and not just for the unga bunga whales and content creators experience
@JordanTheLittle Жыл бұрын
Well, this means we can have a future Jeht 4* banner where we will finally have a strong Eremite in our team! They can even make her the 3rd Xingqiu that turns Fatui into confetti! Its gonna be amazing guys!
@fabriziogonzales9719 Жыл бұрын
I walked away from this vid knowing two things: 1. Dehya is bad 2. The editor has good taste for music
@tj-dx7bb Жыл бұрын
i've never been this curious about how a unit will turn out
@DaxmanG Жыл бұрын
43 minute pre release analysis 💀, this will surely be a pre release of all time
@MrMoyomi Жыл бұрын
God I feel so bad for Dehya. Like already wasn’t gonna pull for her, but what they’ve done to her (making her standard character) just makes me want to pull for her even less.
@stewie_ Жыл бұрын
Imagine feeling good that you lost the 50/50 and didn't get Dehya.
@figlet6427 Жыл бұрын
Players: we want challenging endgame Mihoyo: say no more, now 36* with this Players: Players: wait no-
@antonyo_kun Жыл бұрын
wtf is that intro lmao, Zajef's best one yet
@decapulet Жыл бұрын
hardskip.. especially when there is shenhe rerun too bad, her burst looks so sick
@BlackHorse321323 Жыл бұрын
when he said "listen" on fav greatsword weapon section, it hit my soul immediately.
@Dsilver1 Жыл бұрын
Welp, Zajef kinda predicted that we could get her for free, and now she is on standard so... 👍
@theop9985 Жыл бұрын
What a fuckin underwhelming and confusing patch this is man.... They release a bad 5* and later to be found that the 5* is going on the standard banner... and they release physical support and not re running the only decent physical carry... AND they are re running Ayaka and Shenhe.. Shenhe I can understand but ayaka.. SHE IS NOT EVEN PART OF ANYTHING IN THIS PATCH ... and the 3.5 abyss hard counters freeze teams.. (you can play in second half but Wenut is going to make it a hell)... Events are also underwhelming except the Vibro event... The only thing that excited me is the Dain's quest and 22 free pulls....
@sparrowfox6943 Жыл бұрын
Man I'm honestly upset. Seeing her on Twitter was the only reason I started getting back into genshin after dropping it out of boredom in 1.0. Imagine my pain when I found out that her kit is an absolute dumpster fire
@justsomeguy727 Жыл бұрын
Same shit happens to people in every gacha game under the sun. Shit ain't new or special to genshin / you. Either suck it up and deal with it or just take the L and walk away again. It's a video game, not a life commitment.
@sparrowfox6943 Жыл бұрын
@Just some guy Oh trust me I know, but I'm still gonna be disappointed when a character I've been looking forward to pulling isn't even going to be worth using. And as someone who also plays Fate/Grand Order I'm used to knowing about new characters 2 years in advance due to the Japanese server being ahead of the English version by 2 years, compared to maybe 2 weeks for genshin updates and that's not counting what leakers say cause I don't follow leaks
@timmythh Жыл бұрын
I'd say ppl who've been playing for much longer and have been looking forward to her feel worse 😅
@nonopenope Жыл бұрын
I low-key think that they meant for her to be a limited character but decided to add her to standard after they realized she might need a Zhongli-level buff. Otherwise, it's really strange that they'd add another Pyro 5-star (who has the same element *and* weapon as Diluc) before even adding a single Geo 5-star.
@saskia6148 Жыл бұрын
Yeesh. Love her character and design but there was no way in hell I was wishing on her banner. Turns out I’ll probably be getting her anyways. Also no Eula in the mondstat phys banner?? Strange decisions were made this patch