How Best to Field an Allied Knight? Strongest Imperial Freeblades and Chaos Dreadblade Knights?

[@auspextactics]

CORRECTIONS + OTHER DETAILS: - I THINK three armigers / war dogs in a Super Heavy Auxiliary can still get the Household Traits etc. Knights have a rule that means three knights can still get detachment rules in SHAs. Doesn't help single titanic allied knights, but could allow things like Taranis feel no pain for Imperials or Vextrix re-rolls for daemonbreath spears for chaos folks. This would lose them 'Agents of the Imperium' though, so would break army wide special rules if you go for it! - I should probably have focused on Admech as a special case - they can bring a Questor Mechanicus detachment along without breaking Canticles/Doctrinas due to the Knight of the Cog rule. - Metalica Admech can ALSO get House Raven Knights to have Canticles of the Omnissiah with the Knight of the Iron Cog stratagem. Again, they don't break canticles/doctrinas (even if you take a full super heavy detachment) and can get some seriously nice extra buffs e.g. Light Cover or re-rolls.

[@antongrigoryev6381]

Yes, three Armigers in SHA should get Household Traits. It won't be any different from taking SH Detachment and having them each as a different unit though, as the cost is the same and they won't get Agent of Imperium if they aren't Freeblades. It would actually be better to take them in SH detachment since then you'll have fewer restrictions during deployment.

[@auspextactics]

@@antongrigoryev6381 Thanks, good point there - I'd not really considered that that would be directly inferior - I've updated the pinned comment!

[@grimtimes101]

I would remind you of the 'knight of the cog' ability allows an admech detachment to take a questor mechanicus Super-heavy Auxiliary Detachment and not require the need to apply the wandering hero ability, thus allowing them to take houses like Taranis and not loose the doctrina imperatives and canticles. Only suffering the penalty of no code chivalric and bondsman abilities.

[@magearamil8626]

Ok, but what about taking 2 Auxilary Support detachments of Questor Mechanicus Freeblade Knights into AdMech army, 1 with Iron Cog 1 as Agent. 👍 Basically small Knights army together with AdMech army.

[@grimtimes101]

@@magearamil8626 I dont see why not, though baring in mind thats a 6cp tactic to pull off. Though i believe, for example that would let you take canis rex as a free blade and a house raven armiger detachment and still be able to use the knightly teachings.

[@isawaryokage]

With the new limited cps to add detachments, warlord traits and relics, adding knights as allies will be pretty much a shot in the foot for most armies.

[@HeroesBosses]

Yeah you'd be crazy to take a knight with the upcoming rules. It was already risky when you had 12 CP.

[@ppppppqqqppp]

I think it's better that way soup as a thing you do because it's fluffy for your army when playing with friends instead of a power gaming thing is a positive

[@evader110]

Well when you soup Tsons/DG and give the knight the Tzeentch/Nurgle keyword and then your whole army shares a faction keyword that isn't Chaos. Then the SHA only costs -1CP which is dope

[@lockepersonal]

@@evader110 works even with multi-mark CSM army, as long as Warlord's mark matches Knight's. I think. If I'm reading the rules correctly, that is.

[@ironalex28]

@@ppppppqqqppp the issue with that logic is when you want to play fluffy but the result is so incredibly detrimental to your chances of an even remotely balanced match that you forgo what could've been a really fun and fluffy game because it would too horrible an army to field and have fun with from a playability point There's no reason you should HAVE to choose between fluffy and good, I really don't get why souping has to always come at a huge detriment

[@Tehstampede]

Finally someone breaks it down in a way I can understand. I like the detachment army building system but the rules are just too much right now.

[@michaelobrien9053]

As a follow up video, it might be cool to see you list what sort of factions and army lists would most benefit from an allied knight

[@TheSYLOH]

Astra Militarum would rank pretty high. They benefit greatly because you're replacing models that would otherwise be stuck being Astra Militarum.

[@glenmurie]

Death Guard could (in theory) benefit quite a bit. If you take the Aura of Corruption Favor and unlock the favored ability it's an extra -1T in addition to the Contagion -1T. And Deathguard could benefit from a durable heavy weapons platform. I could easily see myself swapping out my three blight haulers and a plagueburst crawler for a trio of wardogs or a knight with Aura of corruption. Nurgle units are immune to the putrid detonations by the way, so you can still use stuff like crawlers and not take mortals from the detonations.

[@MrArg16]

@@glenmurie those -1T would stack??

[@cameronsharp2022]

@@MrArg16 yes because the rule names are different

[@Chris-jl6vp]

GW: We're gonna encourage the use of imperial + chaos knights in armies. Also GW: It costs you half or all your total CP to field one unit of these guys.

[@Pers0n97]

And they also can't use 75% of their usual stuff that are still included in their price tags!

[@SleeplessRonin]

Yup. They gave us 1 month of Knightly fun and then decided to arbitrarily take it away. Other factions like Tau can still bring their super cheap (better saves than a) Knight equivalent for 0cp - so really balanced.

[@gweltazscordia1471]

@@SleeplessRonin stormsurge have to be in a super heavy auxiliary detachment, so you have to pay PC for it. In term of stats, yeah it need some tweaking.

[@SleeplessRonin]

@@gweltazscordia1471 Not with the new War Zone Nephilim rules. The first Super Heavy Aux attachment that shares a faction keyword is 0 cp. Here's the AT video on it: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eWmToJanZdx6Z5o

[@gweltazscordia1471]

@@SleeplessRonin Oh ok, thank for the info !

[@PeterTurbo4]

Lately, I've been running a Despoiler with Warp-borne Stalker allied with Iron Warriors and having been seeing some pretty decent results. Dropping a full wound Knight on someone, especially after a nasty first round of combat, is pretty devastating. Having that chilling in someone's backline and a big, durable daemon engine + Obliterator blob moving up the field really puts people between a rock and a hard place. Also, I'd like to mention Bold Tyrants is a pretty good bond to take if you're running a deepstrike Knight. The wounds stick a bit a better with the higher AP, which will be easy to get since you'll generally be at least 9" away from an enemy unit.

[@jonischbitoni]

Would be very cool to see an updated version of this video :)

[@napalmsavage7717]

Planning on adding in two warglaives for my sisters list, already planned out a strat to compensate for the CP loss, itll hurt but itll be worth to see this armored column of Glaves, Mortifiers and Warsuits running down the board towards the other army

[@Lorddacenshadowind]

One big thing to point out is that for chaos it can cost you 1 cp for a dreadblade if your warlords detachment is all mono devoted and the knight unit has the same god, because god keywords are all faction keywords(at least up to chaos knights at least)

[@Pers0n97]

So... Death Guard and Thousand Sons get to have a 1CP knights as long as it's a nurgle/tzeentch marked one?

[@devilpistons1269]

like you said, "up to chaos knights"; it's not clear if the khorne, tzeentch, slaanesh, nurgle, or chaos undivided keywords for knights are faction keywords or not - by precedent, they would be, but we dont yet have a clarification so if the clarification goes the other way, your proposal wont work out

[@foulpilgrim5285]

Yeah, KHORNE, TZEENTCH, NURGLE, and SLAANESH are all faction keywords. Sadly, it doesn't work for undivided. CSM's faction keyword for undivided is CHAOS UNDIVIDED and the Chaos Knight codex's version is PANTHEON UNDIVIDED. The guys over at Art of War talked a bit on this. Pretty nice with the changes of getting refunded the full 3 CP instead of just 2.

[@devilpistons1269]

@@foulpilgrim5285 it still hasn't been clarified if the god keywords for chaos Knights are faction keywords or not

[@antongrigoryev6381]

I really like this ability to bring Knights along. This way I can get to play them even if I only have 1 box without needing to wait till I gather a full army. I feel like generally, for all the factions, the ability to bring a single unit without disrupting army-wide rules would be nice. I mean, would 10 Assault Intercessors in an AdMech list really break something?

[@Moorhuehnchen]

yes. your max CP count once the new rule update drops.

[@andrewhinz8909]

Curious as an ad mech player, how does the knights of the cog affect your recommendations for admech/ knight ally lists? From my understanding of the rules as long as you take a SHA detachment with 3 armigers you can get full admech army rules and knight house benifits sans relics and warlord options. would it still be better off with a full SH detachment?

[@niels718]

The Armiger ones sound like a nice addition to a guard force.

[@eThagrosh]

Thanks for the solid video, I'm fielding a dedicated gun platform in my Demons army. Twin Battle cannons are nuts.

[@jackk7545]

No mention of how the new codex affects Knights of the Cog or Knights of the Iron Cog? That's a bit of a shame. In my opinion the new codex makes these integration options with Ad Mech a lot more viable. Three Armigers who get a household tradition and Canticles is a really interesting option. Expensive, but potentially powerful.

[@auspextactics]

Yeah, I should have mentioned admech as a special case. Hopefully will be doing an overview of them in the near future and will try and cover it then. I've posted a pinned correction/update comment above!

[@magearamil8626]

@@auspextactics you can theoreticaly get 2 Knights units into AdMech army, 1 as Agent 1 as Knight of the Cog

[@joec2990]

@@auspextactics I would love an Admech update video with an overview of where we stand currently, as well as how viable it is to use knights following the latest release.

[@nicholasradityaputrawisesa3593]

Tried Cult of Duplicity Thousand Sons w/3 Brigands (one w/ Warp Borne Stalker for Deepstrike. I use Bold Tyrants as the Fell Bond to get extra AP on target within 18"). Having Infernal Master to provide free rerolls and psychic action to get 1 CP with the Cabal ritual seems to offset the 3 CP you need to pay for the Brigands. The brigands also provide more board control and shooting (especially anti tank shooting), which seems to be a better option than using Forgefiend or Contemptor.

[@gillesmelet1044]

I like the idea of replacing my 2 Contemptor dreadnoughts by Brigands in my TS army because I get back 2CP for cancelling martial legacy

[@davidthomas2870]

I know its basically impossible, but I'd love to see some sort of giant xeno species that act as mercenaries for any of the xeno factions, to basically be for them what knights are for the imperium and chaos

[@alphadeltaroflcopter]

It sounds like you want the covenant, too bad we have tau instead.

[@davidthomas2870]

@@alphadeltaroflcopter not really. I like the tau, and I like that there are alien species in 40k that pointedly are NOT part of the tau empire. What I'd like is something kinda like the ogre kingdoms in fantasy. Maybe some of the old one's other creations?

[@alphadeltaroflcopter]

@@davidthomas2870 they can't even get imperial units to soup, let alone an undivided xenos faction. You'd have gotten what you wanted if something more akin to the covenant was added in lue of the incredibly boring tua.

[@davidthomas2870]

@@alphadeltaroflcopter I mean they could for a while there and wasnt it pretty degenerate for the meta? Like every competitive army was imperium soup but the same imperium soup there for a hot minute. Wasnt that why theyve cracked down on that? Surely some faction of big aliens (megaarachnids returning anyone?) Of the scale of a knight that perhaps have had their civilization shattered by the imperium, and now wander the stars as small scattered enclaves small numbers of giant alien monsters that will throw their lot in with whoever agrees to let them set up shop? Obviously wouldnt be able to ally with the tyranids or GSC since they're sort of a superfaction unto themselves like the imperium or chaos, but someone who is willing to work with Eldar, necrons, tau and maybe the orcs at a stretch is entirely plausible to me

[@danpsyker6122]

Gutted that I can't really get any use out of Allying my big Imperial Knight, compared to Chaos armies with Chaos Knights, they can actually ally in a big tanky Psychic Knight beast that can actually add to the army without feeling like a waste of 3CP

[@lemanruss7218]

I'm working on a imperial guard list that is a mostly infantry list with a couple tanj commanders, full payload of manticores and an ally Castellen which would hit harder and last longer than 600 points of guard armor(like a baneblade)

[@AuDHDeepDive]

This needs an Arks of Omen Update. I was killing ,yself trying to find this information and of course Auspex Tactics has a videoi!

[@firmak2]

i really like this, i was really hoping to put a knight into my thousand sons army.

[@emma9259]

Yea thousand sons benefit more than any other chaos army from being able to bring war dogs or a knight due to their lack of great anti-tank options/heavy firepower. So either a knight abominant or 3x war dogs (huntmen or executioners probably) will do a lot to massacre what your terminators can't.

[@firmak2]

@@emma9259 mhmh, its also an excuse to use my Castellan. Even if it isnt as good.

[@woodlefoof2]

Lol I actually decided to grab the abominant purely because I was wanting to add it to my thousand sons list I hadn’t even assembled yet. Prescient meta addition

[@firmak2]

@@woodlefoof2 i dont know why but i also grabbed the abominant special box set cuz they are fun to assemble and paint, really lucked out on that decision.

[@lokalnyork]

@@firmak2 No, please do! It shreds. You really don't need psyker Knight for TSons as much as other armies, but You may need other means of destruction (melee or shooting)

[@NornQueenKya]

I'm running the chaos psychic one with Night lords. It's a big scary knight to draw attention while nl can sneak into melee

[@hamishwalker9637]

yeah I'm doing the same in a crusade game (i don't think it'll go well, the other players are tyranids, tau, grey knights and custodes)

[@manuelalvarez7866]

How has that been working out? I love the look of the Abominat still building my chaos knights so waiting to see them on the table.

[@morg775]

This was extremely informative. I'm brand new at Warhammer and can't decide between Adeptus Mechanicus or Heretek, but I know I have to have war dogs and can now see how to add both kinds. I don't like the chaos god options, but don't see the emperor as the Omnissiah or the restrictions of the superstitious mechanicum. Chaos undivided might be an option.

[@MasterofMistakes]

Thank you, I needed help figuring this out, sometimes having it pictured out is all anyone needs. Auspex this was massively helpful like with the Custode's "MARTIAL KA’TAH", Thank you.

[@milliman4]

That pic of the knight is the reason I like equipping thunderstrike gauntlets, how is he gonna give a thumbs up or pick up a burger with a chainsword?

[@Grimpo96]

Honestly, I’m tempted to run 2~3 Kharnivore’s with my Alpha Legion. While the Knights charge up the field, my boys can creep up to the objectives and lay some covering fire.

[@Shionkitsa]

Thanks for the info, I'm now adding some more knights to the wishlist for my soupy, soupy chaos XD

[@vyper695]

Rampager with beguiling majesty and exploding 6's bond would be my pick. As Slaanesh they can get extra attacks and reap and rend strat gives them a load more attacks at the cost of no rerolls. Fire him off and wreck things.

[@nikot.9920]

I know Auspex has been waiting to make this video. Im sure some soup lists will be dope. I'm expecting a few this weekend at the open I'm attending

[@just_gut]

I'll be souping them into Chaos Space Marines when I play them until at least the new codex comes out. There's just more that Chaos Knights have to offer than some other options.

[@JeRicotta]

Thanks for that video ! i wanted to play a knight with my custodes !

[@captainflapjax7240]

Haven't watched the video yet, but I just want a Castellan in my Bloody Rose Sisters army

[@MrSweetiebear95]

An additional video focusing on AdMech would be great since they have some unique rules

[@TechWizard28]

I just imagine a volcano cannon taking out the knight as it's giving a thumbs up

[@brandonmarchese1]

With CSM and a new rules I’d love an updated video chaos has a good opening too get in with a few big boys and an Abaddon right behind Em

[@XXXXX1515]

Thinking of doing this for Black templars either for funsies or display

[@kalamander8563]

Hope it's a Crusader. Because, you know...Templars

[@WraithRaider]

Really good guide thanks, you didn't mention the possibility of getting a shared faction bonus (for 2 CP refund), for example using the favour of the god with "nurgle" in a deathguard army. Is that possible?

[@Chodor101]

I think knights should be mergable with imperium armies without loosing rules, they are a big CP investment and army with only super heavies feels weird.

[@TH-ln9sx]

I have used a Knight Castellan to help with the lack of ranged fire power in the DG before. It certainly is fun to use but I don’t think I would be taking it if I was trying to put together the most competitive list I could.

[@PortocaliusMaximus]

Hilarious how Noble Combatants ONLY works with the Cerastus Castigator Tempest Warblade because FW didn't update the datasheet and left it with basic attacks only

[@spoonsrattling]

Let's go. Definitely want at least one chaos or imperial knight

[@peacemaker00]

With Deathguard 3 executioners is a very good stand in for contemptors if you dont want to throw money at Forgeworld.

[@glenmurie]

I'm going to go out on a limb and assume that World Eaters will probably be better of sticking with the Lord of Skulls if they want something big and stampy until their codex comes out.

[@jason2089]

Thanks!

[@lokalnyork]

I think Chaos get a lot more from Knights. I wouldn't discount Stalkers, since they can mix&match weapons and tht flexibility is really good wne You work with only one LoW slot. AFAIK there are no strats/rules for specific type of Wardog too, it's "Wardog Class" (and "Pterroshade", literally never go Huntsman). Unless You want melee, then go Karnivores for extra WS. Big bnights also fare better when mixed with CSM/TS/DG, even Daemons (Abominant/Psyker Valiant + Daemons actually sounds really cool!).

[@richard_n]

I think Imperial Guard would benefit a lot from this until their codex drops. This gives them heavy support that can't be locked up in melee and the enemy has to focus the Knight(s) while your infantry run wild getting objectives and victory points. Death Guard should love having 3 War Dogs since they are fast obsec units. DG's biggest weakness is being slow.

[@warcommandertutorials4499]

They arlready have this, the super heavy tank variants are titantic. Can fall back and shoot and suprisingly have an ok close combat profile

[@richard_n]

@@warcommandertutorials4499 they cost way more though per point and are slower

[@warcommandertutorials4499]

@@richard_n yep,im sold this is 10 fold better option. Yet another reason for my models to stay on the shelf :(

[@richard_n]

@@warcommandertutorials4499 I so hope the Guard codex is at least as good as the GSC and Knight ones. They were strong but not broken.

[@gregoryshinn9805]

Thanks for the video

[@SChen-ei8gx]

Very much needed video for those that are huge Knight folks but want to add a Knight.

[@nitmanujer]

How does the AdMech Knight of the Cog work with the new codex?

[@mobilegamersunite]

A tyrant gives great heavy support fire power!

[@EdBurke37]

I wanna add a knight to my Custodes army for anti tank shooting and also because they're fucking cool. I was looking at a castellan but maybe a gallant would be better.

[@collineggena1542]

So im guessing you cant use Space Marine chapter specific super doctrines like Black Templars vows?

[@ianbriscoe6123]

I notice that the wording for Dread abilities is "MOST will be locked" which scenarios allow you to keep them?

[@jossypoo]

Ooh excellent! Wanting to field a knight with my space wolves didn't seem like enough interest to warrant a new dex purchase. I'm gonna build from a dreadknight but use imperial datasheet.

[@voidwyrm57]

Hey man, I hate to be that kind of Guy but the dreadknight is far smaller than the IK in term of bulk, height, and base size. So dont expect any player to agree with that if you want to play it in serious game. And even for casual game I wouldn't advise you to do it. Because it Would give you some unfair avantage (easier to hide or to flank) over player with standard sized model, and that could ruin the fun of the other player.

[@ravenlord1234]

Yeah gotta agree with the guy above. A dreadknight is no where near big enough to be a "Counts as" IK

[@polelot5824]

Does Admech's Knight of the Cog and Iron cog still apply? Really liked taking a raven knight with my Metalica

[@zoopdoop_games]

Are the Havoc Launchers better than just having Stubbers? I feel like non-los shooting is fairly irrelevant nowadays and just getting a consistent 4 shots off the stubber without having to pay for the upgrades I feel would be better

[@PoolNoodleGundam]

Can't you take a Korvax knight in Disciples of Be'lakor? That was in White Dwarf I thought

[@ryanbowald2425]

Oddly enough taking 3 stalkers with daemonbreath spears in death guard is a great choice. Make one of them have aura of corruption and once he’s favored, his -1 toughness aura stacks with contagions 😂😂

[@MrUltimategamer44]

Would the guard benefit from one of these or is effectively just stick to a baneblade at that point, Which also at that point effectively just replace that baneblade with a unit of jacked up russ tanks

[@warcommandertutorials4499]

Thoughts on running alongside deathwing?

[@nikitarimirov4907]

Hello , im pretty new to WH40K , and so far ive been playing Chaos Space Marines but on the side collecting all models related to Chaos Knights cause they looked cool , and lately i wanted to get into Chaos Knight army and playing. But im not so fond of any Household and i was wondering , is it possible to have an entire detachment/army full of dreadblades? For example , i currently have a list that included Tyrant/Rampager/Desecrator/Abominant and 2 War Dog Stalkers. I was wondering , could every unit in this list be a dreadblade? with every single one having a unique fell bond assigned to it? Basically on the same idea as a Freeblade Detachment that Imperial Knights have? or im i just wrong in the way of thinking? Any help would be appreciated :)

[@johnruiz5406]

No one is mentioning the House Korvax Disciples of Be'lakor knight.

[@LuisFlores-cx8py]

Do cerastus knights count for allied knights?

[@maceja5890]

doesnt admech have an ability that gives knights the keyword 'knight of the cog' and not break the army wide rules?

[@itz_pk1876]

As an admech player I've been playing around with wanting to use knights and armigers mixed in with knight of the cog with all of the updates is there any extra benefit?

[@mocrispy8160]

Do we like knights with custodes at all?

[@ocix]

Would love to see what knights to use with plague marines 🤭

[@coltonstergue7079]

Yeah it also doesn’t help that IK got less attention then CK, really feels like we have been left in the dark as an IK player it also sucks that half of are knight chassis where basically ignored and unusable

[@yaoiboy]

Yeah not a IK player but it seems that CKs got the better end of the deal, new kits and their rules seem more fun. Its a shame since I prefer IK.

[@Midnightv]

I know this is old and that you're very busy , but could you please help me something. I was gifted three Armiger Moirax built. Magnetized and unpainted as a bday gift from a friend hoping to get me in the hobby. . . Is there any competitive reason to run them in a dark krakens list? I set aside the cash to buy my 1st army, and I just wonder is running them there simply sub par. Is there any real reason to run them at all outside a knights list?

[@K4Kendo]

Is the sinergy between admech Metallica and IK Raven from Book of rust still avaible? Or due to new IK codex it has to be considered gone? 😔

[@182kaede]

I thought the shared faction bonus gave a 2cp refund if you had the same faction keyword for SHA?

[@linzeli1247]

What is the “resurrection strat”?

[@SafetyBriefer]

Can the Deathwatch AoR include a Knight?

[@XiphosXL]

Taking a relic is merely a matter of using the strat and paying 1cp as they don't need to be a character as stated in the strat?

[@TheColosiss]

My play group is more centered around narrative battles instead of meta gaming. It's a more pleasurable experience than playing against someone at the shop who has copied tournament lists... I'd rather win as the underdog than win as the tryhard...

[@thewindowsmaaane]

Oath

[@tylonblas2581]

Does the rest of my army still have access to my chapter (salamanders) relics/warlord traits? I’ve heard conflicting info.

[@magearamil8626]

Yes. Because if you take 1 Imperial Knights FREEBLADE unit in Super Heavy Auxiliary Detachment it gains the AGENT OF THE IMPERIUM keyword which makes them ignored for the purposes of army-wide rules. Same as Inquisitors, Assassins, Voidsman at Arms etc.

[@ouroborosgaming6559]

Im confused in why everyone assumes the Auxiliary support doesn't get household traditions?! Like just because the other rules states you need 3 knights to get them?? Well what about the first rule that states you still get them in an auxiliary detachment?? No rule over rules another rule?? Placed that final message in page 64 that states "note that imperial knights super heavy Auxiliary detachments still get these abilities, even though super-heavy Auxiliary detachments do not normally gain these detachment abilities." Like why even add this note if they had planned to cancel it out to begin with?? Also Auspex can u talk about if the Metalica synergy still works?? Vary curious why none of this hasn't bin brought up anywhere?? :o its just wired it doesn't work considering Knights ussally play with Ademch?? What about the Iron Cog??

[@XVDAW]

If you want the Auxiliary detachment to not break army rules you are locked into Freeblade, so no Household Traditions.

[@magearamil8626]

So it seems that now you can theoreticaly take 2 Knights into AdMech Army (that will cost ton of CP thou). 1 single Knight as Knight of the Iron Cog 1 Knight unit as Agent of the Imperium (possibly 3 Armigers for super synergy if all are Freeblades). :)

[@magearamil8626]

@@XVDAW you are incorrect. KNIGHT OF THE COG If your army is Battle-forged, for each Detachment with this ability, select one QUESTOR MECHANICUS Super-heavy Auxiliary Detachment. Units in the selected Detachment gain the KNIGHT OF THE COG keyword. This states that one Imperial Knights (from Questor Mechanicum) Auxilary detachment just gains Knight of the Cog keyword which prevents it from breaking army rules for AdMech.

[@ChrisHolman]

Viability of a IK army with allied SM and IG allies?

[@isaacfransonfilm2139]

Ok correct me if I'm wrong, but here's a thought. Ally a knight with your Nightlords, and watch as your apponant fails all their dreadtests

[@timhazell6887]

Don’t think you’ll get dreadtests, because the army isn’t fully chaos knights? Is that how it works?

[@isaacfransonfilm2139]

@@timhazell6887 your absolutely right actually, kind of a shame but prolly for the best 😅

[@blackjak4185]

Da knights look good for krumpin’

[@dthomd]

The video I've been waiting for......thanks AT

[@Andyconda14]

Can someone explain to me like I’m 5 how to add an allied knight to my chaos space marines on battle scribe

[@inquishoth]

There is one extra option that a lot of people do overlook. If you are adeptus mechanics you can take Questor Mechanicus with out sacrificing the doctrinas or canticles. House Tarranis all the way!

[@dustinmartin22]

This needs to now be redone with us starting at 6cp 😂😂😂

[@drabantcorper4727]

Can i have 1 knight and 2 diffrent mini knights like 1 valiant, 1 warglaive and a helverin

[@dinkledord7026]

Knights have pilots?

[@americankid7782]

Honestly I hope the Ally rules are forgiving in 10th. That way I don’t have to finish my guard army.

[@dododostenfiftyseven4096]

👍

[@lukemcdonladson6648]

Wow .. A ridiculous amount of rules ... Or is it just me ✌️💚

[@eicha41624]

My friends and I are going to a GT this weekend and I'm running ultramarines with a squad of helverins for fire support. Because Giggleman gives the armigers rerolls and boosts to their advance and charge

[@karamelapple8007]

Just done lol Due to cp changes

[@smoke7363]

You missed the best war dog class for Chaos lists, the executioner squadron with the Warp Vision bond (no light cover), and the pyrothrone for the 5+ fnp. It actually gave a Thousand Sons list a 5th place one of the bigger events.

[@Onkel_Ranger]

wait what, is this new?

[@Abfallkannibale]

Not to sound egotistical, but this videos feels like it was made for me, me being someone who wants to play guard with a big fat fuck-off robot-lord-hq stomping around.

[@RSBurgener]

Knights are cool, but I just don't want one. I feel like they *really* want me to want one.

[@braalkmath]

Its such a shame that IK is all about the stupid armigers, and because of this there is little point in bringing an allied knights.

[@baron.7284]

For being all about Armigers IK plays a lot of 3 Knight lists while Chaos gets better with fewer big knights up to only Armiger builds placing best for now.

[@danpsyker6122]

@@baron.7284 I think he's talking more about Allying Knights. Chaos can have a big knight and buff him up etc, where as IKs don't really get much for Allying in a big knight.

[@braalkmath]

Yeah. I wanted to buy a big knight to support my BA with shooting, but this codex took out any hope of me doing that this edition.

[@venkelos6996]

This video would be slightly better if one of the last videos I had recently seen wasn't "starring command points will be less!" We've already seen how several armies might suffer, even if theyvwill still get those points, but later, over the game. Now they need to maybe drop 3-6 points of a shrunken starting pool, just to bring one of these, in addition to any other pregame expenses. Were I to be running an army, and have these feature, I think it would be fun and fluffy to either be playing Dark Angels or Iron Warriors. The loyalists have the while "space knights" theme, as well as options for beefy Terminators or fast-paced bikes, and having such a powerhouse with that could rock, while the CSMs of Perty are known for using big, powerful weapons, and breaking their enemies over a knee. A secondary little thought is a Sisters army heavily favoring their warsuits, being supported by some Armitures. On an only vaguely related tangent, I wish/hope maybe these are them go back and rethink the Baneblade variants. Western-themed Gundams are great, but there isn't a reason superheavy tanks can't ALSO be great, and if I imagine that something like a Shadowsword is MADE to topple other superheavies, it might be nice ifvit were if comparable quality, in play. Here's hoping?

[@juliancalero8012]

why have 1 big knight when you can have 3 smaller ones

[@Itsallover57]

I have 0 interest in a knight army but I am highly interested in having a rampager as an auxiliary to my chaos army. One giant stompy bot tearing through enemies is majestic, an army of them trying to chase around foot sloggers is immersion ruining

[@opesam]

I've always wanted a big gold Knight Castellan with my Custodes; would this work or not really...? 🤔

[@tricatus7337]

Do you have to take 3 war dogs or can you just do 1 or 2?

[@jcmsaucey6555]

You can take just 1 or 2 wardogs

[@magearamil8626]

Yeah 1 box of 2 Warglavies can become new fancy play for Space Marines

[@Beaunage]

I kinda wish they'd make knight preceptors psykers as well? Or at the very least gave Imperials some kind of psychic knight. Chaos knights just seem strictly better in every way than Imperial ones.

[@argentumvulpus6060]

Heresy! But that aside, the preceptor abilities really are much stronger for an army than the abominants powers

[@magearamil8626]

Yes, Psychic Knight would be so fun for Imperials. Even some kind of upgrade/warlord trait for 1 cast....