How BIG Would NOAH'S ARK Actually Need To Be?!

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Would Noah’s Ark have been enough? Would it have even floated or functioned as a sea vessel?
Coming at it from a scientific and historical perspective we investigate the feasibility of such a ship and how it all translates to real world physics.
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[@DebunkedOfficial]

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[@Beltesha]

well scientifically it would be impossible. but god can makes miracle. god can just make a portal to another dimension on the ark's gate, so that when the animals goes inside, they actually goes to bigger place. as for the food, when jesus on earth, he fed 5000+ people with just 2 piece of bread and 3 fishes.

[@Mike_Rottchburns]

Your mom

[@Mike_Rottchburns]

@@Beltesha does that mean god can make it so 1 + 1 = 4? If he can defy science with miracles, can he defy math as well?

[@PJRayment]

The biggest problem with this Noah's Ark video is that it fails to address the arguments of the scientists who have shown that it can work. In particular, there is the peer-reviewed paper "Safety investigation of Noah's Ark in a seaway", and the comprehensive book "Noah's Ark: A Feasibility Study". If you fail to address the best arguments for the ark, you're just being intellectually lazy.

[@mhughes1160]

The science and numbers in this video are bull crap 💩.

[@Bl4ckDrg0n]

Duh, of course they were kept in pokéballs!

[@DebunkedOfficial]

😆 very resourceful

[@Morningstar_37]

Wait can you put animals in Pokeballs?

[@tritrios]

Yeah,now everything make sense 🤣🤣

[@capueanjoulis]

@@Morningstar_37 first u have to fight it

[@koganboss4874]

Still not enough space. Even for pokeballs XD

[@khumokwezimashapa2245]

Noah: *Loads 2 of each animal* Poison dart frogs: It's time to start the massacre

[@nightfury7519]

This needs more likes

[@jujuUK68]

Then the elephant sat down and crisis was averted, until someone asked if the Woodpeckers had been seen recently?

[@404Dannyboy]

@@jujuUK68 The only animal that really enjoyed the cruise was the dung beetle.

[@coronavirusisacommunistchi845]

Look at the Pacific Garbage Patch - 1.6 million square kilometers of 50-100 years of human garbage floating in the middle of the Pacific today. In a Great Flood, hundreds of years of drift wood and vegetal matter on the bottom of the Earths Virgin forests would all float. The natural water currents would bring all the floating matter together. Just like today’s Pacific Garbage Patch which is half the size of India or Staten Island. More than enough room to support entire ecosystems of large land dwelling animals. And the animals themselves would instinctually find the dry land as the Earth flooded up. They’d all start climbing mountains and floating matter would clump around the mountains If the Great Flood happened, this is exactly what would happen.

[@IAG369]

And they loaded the sea animals when the ark was afloat...

[@Mars-ev7qg]

According to the Bible, the ark only had one window. This means that methane from the animal waste would quickly build up inside the ark. Since torches and candles would have been the only possible light sources known in biblical times, the methane would quickly find an ignition source and cause a massive explosion.

[@acmenipponair]

And not to forget, that because it had only one window, you would literally get CO poisoned by hours :D

[@Mars-ev7qg]

@acmenipponair that is absolutely true. Today, I learned that Ken Ham had to install a massive HVAC system at his laughable ark park just so people wouldn't die from carbon dioxide poisoning. He went to great lengths to hide this fact, but the truth couldn't help but come out. It always does.

[@aurorafrost288]

And according to the myth, God sealed the Ark once all were aboard, that would have included the single window. Everyone would have died of asphyxiation before the rain even started falling.

[@justinfowler2857]

Mmmm. Barbeque. 😋

[@ninkstheultimate3376]

A window is not the only means of ventilation.

[@Mars-ev7qg]

A few years ago, Ken Ham's phony ark actually filed an insurance claim for flood damage. 🤣

[@daniellymanmoore7517]

His ark is attached to the ground.

[@njhoepner]

@@daniellymanmoore7517 And even with that it gets damaged by rain every year. Imagine that.

[@CarloAldo]

Does the policy include 'Acts of God'?

[@bobbyknight3589]

​@@CarloAldo😂😂😂 omg 😰😳 no you just didn't

[@StormerSage]

Noah: Loads two of every animal onto a wooden ship The termites: *Now it's time to get funky*

[@mecca777]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@nickl5658]

Or wood boring worms.

[@Dragonlord826]

@@nickl5658 woodpeckers finna go sick

[@roguesheep3083]

Also, beavers can't swim indefinitely.

[@Llortnerof]

I don't think two termites are going to do much. Then again, good luck finding just two.

[@WooHooLadttv]

The shit and piss would alone sink the damn ship lmao.

[@Whale-gj7pd]

O H .

[@mender722]

Sinking would be secondary to everyone being asphyxiated due to methane from all the "shit and piss". it's an absurd story.

[@youwantmyname9208]

Shit and piss serving

[@dale116dot7]

@@mender722 As well as the ammonia.

[@millantronni3242]

And the volume of the needed ark did not count for the corridors for the 8 guys serving those millions of animals and channels for shit and piss. Let alone going back and forth the other boats to get food. Perhaps kenny in kentucky have figured it out.

[@krumba100]

You forgot the service paths between the animal cages. If you want to feed them you need access to every cage and that is considerable amount of empty space.

[@Shawn-yp9ic]

yup, and a thousand other things stored like electric toothbrushes, game consoles, external hard drives, would of been easy navigating from the Middle East, paddling by hand, to every continent dropping native species with instructions to paddle in place until the water drained (to where?) from the entire surface.And back exactly where he started! Amazing! And if you don't believe it just read the bible, he admits to MASS murder, but he loves us.

[@connorallgood0922]

Which he mentioned they had plenty of room for...

[@DustyHoney]

Not to mention that you need to be able to load the animals, which contributes considerably to how big that needs to be.

[@Defender78]

the Ark had no skylights or vents for airflow. How about animal poop management?

[@ModernGentleman]

​@@Defender78well, magic, of course

[@thomfiel]

Here's another problem: Many animals require a specialized environment, such as the huge tropical trees, swamps, deep caves, extremely hot or cold places, and so on. They often require specialized diets. How did Noah procure all the foods that they needed? Moreover, after the Great Flood, all plant life on the former land surface of Earth would be obliterated forever. The soil would be totally saturated with salt from the sea water, so it would be impossible to grow anything there. Noah would have to gather up not just all the animals, but the plants that many of them require to live. Can you imagine him transplanting giant sequoia trees aboard the Ark?

[@harveywabbit9541]

The great flood is the rainy season of five months and is found in Rev. 9.5.

[@connorallgood0922]

Oh please tell em you are joking, the implicaations of your IQ if not are severely bad. You want to claim that a supernatural event has to have only natural events? That is just absurd, and now I see why it tends to be the people who do not think for themselves and who do not look and evidence, and who do not do reaserch are always the atheist.

[@nope19568]

deadass saw an apologist say "well maybe the water wasnt salty back then😊" the other day and it made me wanna cry lmao

[@drlegendre]

Not only do Koalas feed (almost) exclusively on eucalyptus leaves, they will only eat them as they are freshly stripped from the branches that bear them. So Noah would have needed live, growing eucalyptus trees on board the Ark. The deeper you go, the sillier this story becomes.

[@connorallgood0922]

@@drlegendre I think what's silly is you taking a story, which if it is true, which is waht your comment here would be implying to be needed, then you're saying a God that can create enough water to flood the entire Earth can't create leaves? I'm sorry, but that logic just isn't logically making sense.

[@johnvane5240]

And Noah said to the kangaroos, “Stop f-ing hopping around or I’ll drop you off in Australia with all the snakes, spiders, crocodiles, and dinosaur birds”.

[@peacefullolvitp7893]

well the earth is flooded soooo.

[@user-fp7bn5dg6q]

lmaoo

[@theman3274]

@@peacefullolvitp7893 Australia is upside down it wasn't affected by the flood

[@oxcart4172]

Thanks. That explains a lot!😂😂

[@davidtaylor4975]

And so it came to pass...

[@p.c.windhamparanormalroman4339]

From the Big Bang Theory: Sheldon: "What did they feed the lions mom?" Sheldon's Mom: "The bodies of drowned sinners."

[@ancapeancape9829]

We don't even need a boat this way! Just bring enough ropes and we got ourselves the biggest raft made of corpses

[@dagdbot83]

@@ancapeancape9829 sounds like a great idea ngl

[@gammatheprotobean1541]

@@ancapeancape9829 thats so fucked up but i cant help laughing at it XD

[@garethbaus5471]

At least it could work for the first couple of weeks.

[@christiannewsandfactschann7674]

Lions didnt eat meat at the time according to the bible

[@Aurochhunter]

Wouldn't Noah and his family also had to travel to other countries to collect various animals not found in their part of the world? Australia with its unique fauna comes to mind: 2 kangaroos, 2 koalas, 2 dingos etc.

[@dbloewen1]

How many more "kinds" of creatures existed than in comparison to now considering extinction. People fail to take that into account. I wonder how the South American Sloth made it on time for departure.

[@mynameisrayaan]

Since there was no tech back then, I think he just took every one he knew

[@redbaron6805]

The flaw is also that we know today, using DNA analysis and attempts to restore endangered populations, that it takes a minimum of 50 of each animal to even attempt to restore the population, and preferably 500 to prevent genetic problems. Using 2 of each animal would have meant the populations would have quickly died out due to inbreeding and birth defects...

[@vanlampham2557]

Well there was only one Adam and Eve, they somehow managed to populate the earth, it’s probably fiiiiiiiinnneeeee

[@lucasklokov8728]

They had to leave some behind, like the unicorn.

[@derekstein6193]

This doesn't include the amount of fresh water needed to keep all the animals alive. Oh, and the collective heat and humidity from that many vertebrates in such close quarters within an insulated space (the wooden vessel) would probably cause a lot of heat stroke before long. Remember, humans are one of the only animals that sweat. Also, the sheer amount of accumulated urine and scat that would be deposited every day would be too much for Noah and his family to clean up. This would result in the waste piling up, increasing the change of disease and infection for much of the ark's denizens. The urine would saturate the place with so much ammonia by the end of the voyage, that much of the animals would have died from ammonia poisoning or asphyxiation. Even under the most generous conditions, the ark wouldn't work by far.

[@jenniferhart559]

... and methane gas from their digestive processes 🐂💨

[@brabanthallen]

There are so many problems, irreconcilable problems with the flood/ark story. Supposedly, the ark was afloat for 150 days. So you have all the issues with space, food and water storage, waste removal, methane buildup, etc., but what about after the ark lands? How was food and water supplied for those gazillions of animals? The vegetation needed to feed the ruminant animals would taken AT LEAST an entire season to grow, not even taking into consideration the problem with the salinization of ALL the land. After landing, what did all the predators eat? It's just problem after problem with this entire story, start to finish.

[@dx1450]

Not only that, but how do you feed all the carnivores like lions, tigers, etc. on the ark for 150 days or more?

[@OnASeasideMission]

​@@dx1450According to Sheldon's mom, they fed on the drowned bodies of heathens. 🤪

[@thesoundsmith]

Wow! Sounds like you are trying to treat it as real. Science and religion don't mix. (Well, they do, but don't taste very good...)🤢

[@Dallas-Nyberg]

...and, as one unicorn said to the other - "Damn..we missed it... oh well, there will be another boat" - the dinosaurs agreed with the unicorn and they waited together.

[@rickro2878]

Then the mammoths joined in; saying; "Hey wasn't there supposed to be a boat here?" And they waited too..

[@OpalineAndTheBean]

😩😩😩

[@AlDunbar]

LOL, as if the animals boarded willingly. I'm not sure that Noah would even know about animals not native to his part of the world, or where he could go looking for some.

[@paulrichards6894]

if there was a god noahs ark would be possible

[@Dallas-Nyberg]

Oh good... I'll let the unicorns know, they will be pleased.

[@thesupersonicstig]

Noah having an entire fleet of ships sounds cooler than having one ark.

[@curious5887]

and more logical

[@thesupersonicstig]

@@curious5887 Admiral Noah

[@hexaltheninjawow9531]

@@thesupersonicstig ADMIRAL! Satan sent FUCKIN’ DEMON PIRATES

[@thesupersonicstig]

@@hexaltheninjawow9531 Finally, a fuckin’ challenge…

[@GangsterGamer_YT]

Well what if he had a fleet of arks?

[@festusmulumba1834]

I wonder how the carnivores like lions waited for deers, antelopes etc to reproduce so as to get food.

[@stibiumowl]

I think the bible supposes vegetarian lions.

[@93ImagineBreaker]

yeah no@@stibiumowl

[@QuinnEdwards1]

Poor Unicorn!

[@annabourbon]

​@@stibiumowl💀🤣

[@lawrencedodd1736]

Ken Ham thinks dinosaurs were on the Ark

[@AveragePicker]

I always wondered where all the wood came from, and who let him get away with it. You'd think if you had a neighbor and he'd clear cut one square mile of forest and showed no sign of stopping, you might confront him about it. Whoever was selling him the axes must have made a fortune.

[@TheMajesticSeaPancake]

Well they might have made a fortune but wouldn't have had long to spend it

[@thomasmaughan4798]

Now you know why the land around the Euphrates river is so barren of trees.

[@aventicks718]

@@TheMajesticSeaPancake If the flood actually happened, which it didn't.

[@TheMajesticSeaPancake]

@@aventicks718 and to think i almost got away with not having to explain that I don't believe it.

[@user-rl8hf8kt1r]

​@@aventicks718 there are scientific evidence of a ancient mega flood

[@JASON-ug6iz]

You also forgot that each animal would need fresh water for the 150 days.

[@Ian-SaintGeorge]

If you read the bible, the ark was afloat just under a year. On the first day of the tenth month the tops of the mountains became visible. Makes the problem worse. Then the plant eating animals need to have enough food to last them until the flooded ground dried enough to grow their food. Meanwhile, what do the carnivores munch on?

[@CnCW453]

You’re assuming the floodwaters was saltwater, but it was most likely freshwater since the oceans are still getting saltier. Plant debris for the herbivores, fish for the carnivores.

[@CriticalCoen]

@@CnCW453 Try leaving dead plants in water for that time. That is not edible anymore. And the fish would not be stranded on ground, the water would not recede fast enough. They would just swim away. Also, not all carnivores eat fish.

[@Ian-SaintGeorge]

@@CnCW453 you're assuming this story has any truth in it, I don't believe it because of all the flaws in it. Everything and every person except those on the ark is dead. The whole world is dead and most of the animals are thousands of miles away from home. So the Koalas die of starvation waiting for the eucalyptus to grow. The Pandas die waiting for the bamboo to grow. That's assuming they managed to walk and/or swim thousands of miles back to where they walked and/or swam from the previous year. All the animal waste went out of the one window, thousands of tons of shit and thousands of gallons of piss. No ventilation no drains or pumps to help. I'm assuming the lower deck would be mainly dead animals by week six.

[@Lessk69]

@@CnCW453 so then where did all the salt water animals and fish that have been around longer than man go? Horrible argument.

[@Jay12359]

“Have a pint and wait for this to blow over” - love the Shaun of the Dead reference!

[@martindevlin5393]

🤣🤣🤣

[@scxrfxcedgrxce7994]

Great movie

[@pointlessdegenerates3568]

I’ve seen that movie at least 8 times and I didn’t catch that 😂 I’m ashamed

[@mattweller]

See you at the Winchester

[@Brad772006]

Big Al says dogs can't look up.

[@knutthompson7879]

Apologists will respond, “Kinds!” But what’s a kind? “You know, kinds.”

[@paulroberts3639]

As an Australian I can debunk the whole Noah story with one idea. A bunch of dudes travelling around to the other side of the world to collect all of our Spiders and Snakes and sticking them on a boat. And kept them alive, without getting bitten & dying themselves, long enough to put them all back afterwards. And getting all of the kangaroos and other marsupials back and not letting any Hoofed animal in here. Biggest pile of crap is the whole Noah myth. But if a middle eastern dude can collect 17 different species of Funnel Web Spider and a few Taipans, and live to gather everything else, well I’d be very impressed.

[@_eLz_]

As an Australian, I’m surprised that the Aborigines (estimated to have occupied Australia for at least over 50,000 years) weren’t aware that they weren’t supposed to be around after the world wide flood about 6,000 years ago.

[@eduardodias983]

The story of Noah's ark was a historical event Because archaeology has already proven various biblical events, even SUPERNATURAL stories from the Bible

[@eduardodias983]

​@@_eLz_The story of Noah's ark was a historical event Archaeology has proven various biblical events, even SUPERNATURAL stories from the Bible Mn

[@_eLz_]

@@thecaricature sure, if you’re talking about the epic of Gilgamesh but in this case we’re talking about a 600 year old man named Noah who built a wooden boat.. you’re talking about a story that was written in a time where people most likely wasn’t aware that there was a whole world outside their bubble

[@_eLz_]

@@thecaricature “The "local bubble" for the people who wrote the bible was half the planet.” You mean, half the disk covered by a dome ? No I don’t think that they were cavemen at all, please show me where I even suggested that they were. They were just a bunch of goat herders who borrowed stories from other civilisations within their reach as you have clearly stated with the Noah story.

[@WT.....]

There's also the issues of hygiene & wood damage to consider as well. It'll be painful to not have a way to control all the piss & shit. Plus termites, beetles, worms & woodpeckers.

[@nocare]

Don't forget shipworms

[@sirwiggle6823]

The had shit chutes, and they put straw in the pens that would soak up the piss

[@vylbird8014]

To be somewhat fair, the ark doesn't have to last long. It's a single-voyage craft. The story is still ridiculous though.

[@malsawmzela609]

@@vylbird8014 The majority of flora would die out if they are underwater for that long.

[@denisl2760]

@@malsawmzela609 Seeds. That part is actually pretty easy to solve.

[@changnam5355]

When they say god surpasses all the laws of physics or science they really do mean it don’t they

[@NetAndyCz]

Do not think about it, just believe with your heart;) EDIT: So many people take things seriously these days, and here I hoped that the emoticon will make it clear.

[@GunsNGames1]

@@NetAndyCz yes master, please guide me through your beliefs for you own interests, I love being a puppet.

[@ivangenov6782]

@@GunsNGames1 umm, sir, you ok?

[@user-pi2de6si6o]

NetAndyCz yes... let me shut off my brain so I don’t see the flaws of logic and kneel down to the holy magic man

[@zakzwijn8410]

Yes :( There's simply no arguing with believers. It's a special state of mind in which all reason is lost.

[@MH-fs3lf]

Imagine building an ark instead of migrating to somewhere far from the flood because it wasn't world-wide, jesus what a genius move.

[@agustinfranco0]

and he spent 100 years building it, in that time he could have gone anywhere

[@spacecoastz4026]

Imagine not understanding that it was global.

[@agustinfranco0]

@@spacecoastz4026 there was never a global flood, so any flood that inspired the tale, was in a region only

[@agustinfranco0]

@@thecaricature what kind of comet could even do that?

[@spacecoastz4026]

@@agustinfranco0 And you know this how? (because you don't) There is evidence that points to a global event...and I trust God's Word.

[@itwasaliens]

Damn, so you would need more than an entire cargo ship of food per day.

[@piccolo917]

One problem that you forgot is ventilation. The story mentions only 1 small window, which would quickly result in everything dying from methane poisoning. Those modern arks need industrial air conditioning systems and still can’t have animals on board due to air quality, so a million or so animals could not fit.

[@queenbean7071]

Which makes you wonder who *really* wrote the story of Noah in the Bible aa they clearly didn't have good understanding of boats and it felt more like the work of a writer

[@piccolo917]

@@queenbean7071 The story likely evolved from a historical event in Mesopotemia: You had people there who'd make rafts and put their animals on it to float down the river and sell them there. What likely happened is that a really bad flashflood swept one of those rafts down into the gulf and pretty much stranded the people there until they hit land again, after which they likely sacrificed some of their animals to the gods as thanks. Add a few centuries of retelling, finger waking and adding-on, and tada: the Flood of Noah.

[@xtremegamrr3719]

@@queenbean7071 I think moses wrote it

[@flyingraijin2736]

@@piccolo917 that’s actually quite interesting

[@stephenolan5539]

Are you sure the carbon dioxide wouldn't kill them before the methane?

[@Chrischi3TutorialLPs]

The "copy" at the Ark Encounter is actually a giant block of concrete with a wooden facade. Oh yeah, and said facade has to be repaired every year for, get this, water damage.

[@mpk6664]

Whenever it rains here the grounds flood. It's quite hilarious. Not to mention that Grant county and the state gave the ark encounter tax exemptions and billions of dollars over budget which is fantastic because Grant country has a 16% poverty rate(Nationally it's 10%).

[@kamion53]

@@shamanbeartwo3819 so that why it looks like a raised barn on the inside.

[@Bob-of-Zoid]

They deserve all of the consequences they get and then some, for throwing money at a creationist con man like Ken Ham! They never even came close to the visitor count they promised, and a great many of the ones who did go there were Atheists, in order to ridicule it and Ken! Bwahahahahahahaaaaa! AFAIK they can't even collect taxes on it because he declared it part of his ministry (a "special privilege" only religions get that is unconstitutional, as indoctrination is not charitable!)!

[@davidwilson7082]

It Can't handle the Rain.

[@Chrischi3TutorialLPs]

@@davidwilson7082 Nope. Nope it cant.

[@MrJayehawk]

I've made similar arguments to a very religious person who would just answer with things like "through God all things are possible". So there's no point in trying to provide evidence to people who simply deny it all and rely completely on faith for everything they believe.

[@Cane4092]

I mean, it’s true. God can do all things

[@agustinfranco0]

@@Cane4092 except exist

[@eduardodias983]

Lie Every time you prove something from the Bible, you don't accept it

[@eduardodias983]

Actually Foolish people talk nonsense

[@eduardodias983]

It's not a matter of believing your fool, it's a matter of facts Because archaeology has already proven various biblical events, even SUPERNATURAL stories from the Bible

[@geraldmiller5260]

The ark was an early Tardis. Far more vast on the inside than the outside.

[@chaschoune]

Please tell us which verse in the bible says that.

[@tusse67]

@@chaschoune tardiverse!

[@tusse67]

From the book of tards!

[@RealWorldGames]

Noah built the ark with a sonic screwdriver lol

[@joshuarichardson6529]

@@RealWorldGames The sonic screwdriver doesn't work on wood actually. That's the one tool Noah couldn't use to build it.

[@kevaran1422]

I took it personally when Noah listed mosquitos and wasps on board.

[@LunarBloodRose27]

Ants.....

[@early2exit]

bed bugs

[@Obi-Wan_Kenobi62]

Noah when he realizes he has to take 850 species of ticks on board:

[@Computment]

​@@LunarBloodRose27ants are important dumb ni

[@aurorafrost288]

@@Obi-Wan_Kenobi62 And then there's the termites...

[@reinerbraun670]

I'm still salty with Noah for bringing cockroaches, black widows, and centipedes along.

[@daisuke910]

What about rats?

[@anubisfox5765]

Well good thing that never happened then right

[@staticchimera6371]

@@anubisfox5765 Depends if you're religious.

[@anubisfox5765]

@@staticchimera6371 no depends on reality and reality says that never happened lmao simple history and geology prove it untrue

[@staticchimera6371]

@@anubisfox5765 Geology proves it untrue? How? Also please tell me your secrets of how you know everything that happened centuries ago without having experienced it?

[@Cludnugget]

I think you've forgotten to take Noah's sonic screwdriver into account

[@stm7810]

but it doesn't work on wood.

[@Cludnugget]

@@stm7810 it doesn't *do wood* !?😂

[@stm7810]

@@Cludnugget yeah, that's been a problem several dozen times.

[@Nachtschicht1]

There is one important thing that you didn't take into your calculation: Noah could only collect animals in a certain radius of where he lived, which seems to be somewhere in the region where the Black Sea is today. So you should limit the types of animals to those who might have lived there back then.

[@redbaron6805]

OK, so if the entire world flooded, then that would have exterminated all the animal types we see today in Australia, America's, Antarctica, etc. etc. The world also had to flood above Mt. Everest which is 29,000 feet, which means the heaviest rainstorm you have ever seen in your life would have need to be around 100x stronger for 40 days straight...

[@wearenumberone1111]

@@redbaron6805 dude not the planet itself when it says the world it means the known world

[@JakkeJakobsen]

​@@wearenumberone1111oh, so god and Noah only saved animals where western civilization was developed in Eurasia, even though there have been civilizations in Asia and Oceania for millennia? Convenient

[@willconcord]

that's how dinosaurs vanished mate! them bad boys used to live all the way in australia! of course all the others lived around the black sea 😀

[@redbaron6805]

@@wearenumberone1111 That is not what the story says. It says a "world wide" flood. If some valley flooded and some farmer saved some livestock, that would barely make the 6 O'Clock news.

[@LaciDoszka]

The ark begins to sink Noah: Sh*t! I knew i should not take the woodpecker!

[@robertnett9793]

And the termites, and the woodworms...

[@Jambuc829]

Don’t forget the beavers 🦫 they have to chew on wood to keep their teeth from growing too long which can be fatal.

[@benny_lemon5123]

"Alright, who let the termites onto the ship?!"

[@samuraiboi2735]

@@benny_lemon5123 you

[@Best-um3eq]

@@benny_lemon5123 you

[@randypowell3180]

You forgot to mention one other critical need they would have on the ark, that would require lots of room, and add tons of weight. Fresh water.

[@redbaron6805]

Never mind that polar bears and penguins need to be kept close to 0 degrees C and reptiles closer to 30 to 40 degrees C. Without a giant HVAC system on board, water filtering, lighting etc. the entire Ark would have just been a dead zone in a week or two. Add the fact when the flood finally receded and the animals left, all the plants were dead, so the grazing animals would have starved to death. Since there were no animals alive, what did the carnivores eat? This are literally a million reasons the story doesn't add up...

[@Adventist9917]

@@redbaron6805 Right, so even though a salt water Shark can adapt to be in fresh water, you draw the line at Polar bears needing to be cold? Just disregarding the fact that all bears are related, which includes Panda bears. Why are skeptics like you so ignorant of literally straightforward things such as that? It's like you feel the need for a problem to scoff at, but you never actually thought of the implications of your own argument. And you think they wouldn't have food? All animals were eating plants on the ark. Every animal that's a carnivorous now, just survived off plants. There was a lion that only ate plants a few decades ago, so it's not impossible. Noah just had to bring food onto the ark. It's really that simple. Your first arguments are really bad and easy to explain with a small amount of critical thinking, so what are the other complaints? How did Noah save the fresh water fish from dying in a salty flood?

[@randypowell3180]

@@johndodson8464 And they would need a way to collect and store that rainwater, right? Because the water they were floating on was not fresh. it had been mixed swamp water, ocean water, salt brine, and salt and alkali deposits from dry lake beds that exist all over the world to this day. As well as all the bloated dead and decaying bodies, of the humans and animals that died in the flood.

[@randypowell3180]

@@johndodson8464 They still needed to collect the water and store it. Maybe you should take five minutes and think about it before you ridicule others. Remember it did not rain for the intire time they were adrift on the ocean nor after they had run aground on Mount Ararat.

[@randypowell3180]

@@johndodson8464 Your the one who brought it up stupid. Are you insinuating that rotting corpses aren't going to release deadly bacteria and microbes into the water? Just how many times were you dropped on your head as a kid?

[@jimo3173]

And given that they were afloat for 150 days meaning everything else would have been under water, there would have been absolutely no food for Noah and his family or for any of the animals because everything, including all vegetation, would be dead and would take some time to regrow as all the land would be nothing but mud for quite a time. So, I guess they also had at least one seed from every type of vegetation in the world in order to restart all plant life too. Now think about how much food would have had to be on that arc to keep all life alive until new food could grow. Noah and his family couldn't have built an arc big enough and gather that much food if they had 300 years to do it. Also, they would have been quite busy with animal latrine duty for near half a year. Yeah, I'd say this arc story is pretty well debunked.

[@jimo3173]

@@thecaricature You think every animal would be able to survive on fish? And how would they fish since there was only one window at the top and no other openings anywhere on that ark? What would they use as bait? Think man, think.

[@jimo3173]

@@thecaricature Again dude, where would they fish from since the only opening was one little window on the top and what would they use for bait? For grain, they would need at least 300,000 pounds for just the 2 elephants alone for a year. Also, how did 8 people keep up with feeding these animals and cleaning up after them all every day? They would be peeing and pooping every day in an enclosed ark so where did all the animal waste go for at least 150 days afloat? Think man, if you're capable of it.

[@deltap6967]

​@@jimo3173you cooked them

[@angryrabbit6637]

There were sewage systems in the ark that’s what the window was for… But if you do t believe in Noah’s ark Look I’m not asking any of you good people to believe in the word of God but I just ask one thing from all of you, Ik you don’t want to do it I know you don’t want to believe it… but please read Revelation 13: 16-17… and then if you will, go ahead and look into the progression of this prophecy… especially in Sweden… that’s all I ask…

[@jimo3173]

@@angryrabbit6637 Really? A sewage system leading "up" to the one window in the whole ark? That window would be doing nothing day and night besides dumping animal waste right back onto the outside of the ark. No, there was no sewage system on that ark because there was no ark.

[@rathersane]

Speaking as someone who occasionally flies with a dog who must remain inside a duffel under the seat for the duration of the flight, it would have been impossible to pack that many animals into an ark before the invention of Trazidone.

[@mikewilson8513]

I must admit, I found that very funny.

[@funkymonk1882]

That’s why they were put into hibernation.

[@jeffthomson4223]

@@funkymonk1882 Where's that in the Bible again?

[@funkymonk1882]

@@jeffthomson4223 Everywhere. The flood was a supernatural event and God put the animals on the ark. He didn’t need any scientists input on how it needed to be done.

[@jeffthomson4223]

@@funkymonk1882 I think we can correct that to 'nowhere'. Nowhere in the Bible does it talk about making sure the animals were small/young. Nowhere in the Bible does it talk about provisions of food or water. Nowhere in the Bible does it talk about putting the animals into hibernation. Nowhere in the Bible does it talk about gathering or returning animals from all over the Earth. Nowhere in the Bible does it talk about caring for the animals in the devastated post-flood world. Nowhere in the Bible does it even talk about trying to preserve the plants that would also have been destroyed by the flood. Noah's Ark is a half-ar$3d story, full of problems, and you're fabricating solutions out of your own ar$3 to try and fill those gaps. Nothing supports you here- not science, nor the Bible.

[@edb875]

Regarding feeding animals, you're analyzing only the herbivores. But what about the carnivores such lions, hyena, crocodiles or bears?

[@colinlinaman7868]

It would be even worse meat weighs a lot more than grass

[@tonydai782]

You'd have to keep tons upon tons of meat from spoiling within the 150 days, and you'd probably need more than that, since we don't want the carnivores to start a massacre as soon as the Arc lands.

[@Ubersnuber]

Don’t ruin this more than it already is.

[@JohnnieHougaardNielsen]

No problem. Just have extra herbivores to feed the carnivores. And remember supply to feed them while still alive. You do not need a little ship, just a floating island, with flexibility to handle the waves. And a huge well-fed crew to keep it repaired, of course.

[@Awol991]

It is also not just food during the flood. What do they eat for the year after the flood, everything has been killed by salt water.

[@2Bros-OVO]

The only way to have 2 of every animal would be a DNA storage system.

[@philwhatever3903]

Well non mainstream evidence may suggest, man may have been that advanced then. I mean, there is many many statues in Egypt that we can only replicate today with computerised diamond tipped 3D machines. Which dont exist.

[@CriticalCoen]

@@philwhatever3903 People did not know about or stored DNA back in the day. Didnt have the knowledge or equipement.

[@philwhatever3903]

@@CriticalCoen you completely missed my point! To clarify we have no idea what technology they had for 290k yes 290 000 years. What we do know is their DNA was the same as it is today. Just like a sheep 300 000 years ago is the same as a sheep today! Same brain structure same intelligence. It has not evolved at all. (Edit of course a sheep has evolved through domestication, i meant its brain stricture and intelligence has not evolved) You may argue that knowledge has improved however we also know that knowledge can be lost. Evidenced by the pre dynastic and the first dynasty of Egyptians. A simple look on the differences of how they made their kitchen ware shows this.

[@CriticalCoen]

@@philwhatever3903 No I did not miss your point. The discovery of DNA and what it means did not happen back then. I can guarantee you that. That requires knowledge and equipment that wasnt around. How do I know? Because of the impact it would have made. The world would be changed in a way we dont see in the historical records. Also, again, did not have the equipment. Just look at what we use today to decipher DNA. Didnt have that back then. Now, I totally get that people were more advanced than we think back then. And that is, in my opinion, probably true. But you fail to realise how far ahead (in certain subjects) we are in relation to our ancestors. We control atoms. Fucking atoms. For entertainment. Also, things did evolve. Good example are dogs.

[@philwhatever3903]

@@CriticalCoen The thing is you can’t guarantee it at all. Again we have no idea of the level of technology or knowledge. There is even evidence of nuclear fission in history. Granted this is from a time before Homo sapiens had appeared, however there has been many types of humans that span millions of years into history. We simply do not know the level of knowledge they had. What we do know is there has been a number of natural disasters that could have been the reason for losing some knowledge.

[@Spider-Geek916]

It's sort of impressive that just about *_every_* branch of scientific study can be used to debunk some part of this absurd story (maybe not astrophysics, LOL).

[@disappointedbananas2365]

I got you fam If the earth was flooded with enough water to cover mt Everest, the (gravitational) tidal forces on the global ocean from the moon would cause some pretty radical (liquid) tidal forces on earth - waves on a good day could be extremely irregular, turbulent, and peak out at hundreds of meters high. God forbid the ark ran into a storm on that world 🌕👄🌕

[@user-lc5sr6mq4r]

@@disappointedbananas2365 i was about to post pretty much the same thing ;) creationists that believe this ark fairy tale are beyond saving.

[@jasonkinzie8835]

You don't even need science to see how absurd it is to take this story literally.

[@daveaaa]

mmh then how did the earth come into existence please dont say big bang cause thats not possible

[@gayesthusky2177]

And not to mention many civilizations didn’t even notice this flood and carried on as if it didn’t happen.

[@furuleetsaingo]

Like the Chinese for 1, the Egyptians, etc

[@EMJ4438]

actually, just about every civilization in history has a record of a global flood around the same time period as each other

[@jimmyh6601]

​@@EMJ4438how the hell would these ancient people know it was a global flood? Did they look up satellite images of the whole earth, they may have witnessed local floods, so have I on a few occasions.

[@gayesthusky2177]

@@EMJ4438 they don’t have a record about one global flood. They have records of local floods, and local flooding is neither uncommon nor supernatural in origin. As for a massive *global* flood that wiped out all civilizations, there is zero archeological evidence.

[@imperator8125]

That’s a very good question. How would every civilization have records of a global flood without all originating from the survivors

[@16randomcharacters]

Next questions: for both the biblically specified dimensions and the seaworthy and large enough flotilla of 100s of ships instead of one giant one, how many acres of cyprus trees would they need to cut down, and how many man hours would forestry, transport, and construction take given the tools and techniques of the time?

[@peterkotara]

42. 42 Acres. 42 Man hours.

[@Unagam1GD]

well the Bible implied with character ages that it took 120 years. Yeah. That's a lot of work.

[@ixzmf]

Noah build the ark for 100 years according to the Bible. He has three sons and he could always hire workers.

[@raymondelliott1546]

​@@ixzmf this guy

[@hangarud]

​@@ixzmf how about the termite while constracting 100 years...and the woods over 100 years

[@vylbird8014]

The most realistic part of the story: After Noah lands he takes the clean animals he protected through the ordeal and kills most of them as sacrifices to thank God, then immediately plants a vineyard, starts brewing up some wine, and proceeds to become the first alcoholic of the new world.

[@overtheatlas]

LOL

[@YannR34]

And I like how they decide what animal is "clean" and what animal is just shit. 👍 This is just perfect, why not to teach people to act like if they were superior to everything (just in case it wouldn't be already like that)... The worse teacher ever.

[@overtheatlas]

@@YannR34 every animal is superior to ticks and mosquitoes

[@drizap8015]

@@YannR34 you have a problem with calling animals like sheep clean compared to insects like cockroaches?

[@stonefallknives5518]

@@YannR34 yeah its not like any animals carry diseases more likely than other or people had a hard time properly preparing meat safely from certain animals because of lack of technology while other animals were practically safe to eat raw. Definitely not the case that some animals are cleaner than others.

[@SamakaSRC]

How exactly did he and his crew capture lions, tigers, leopards, and bears without being their next meal? Poisonous snakes, bugs and other animals without being bitten and killed? Where was the food supply kept and kept without rotting? Did they provide the veterinary care too? How did they manage to keep that many animals alive for nearly a year without losing any to illness being in such an enclosed space - surely there'd be sickness issues? Those animals being caged up for so long must have been in real bad shape when they got off the boat. What did the do with the waste? Were they able to sleep with all the noise and smells? Did the termites cause any damage they would have had to repair? I have so so so many questions about the logistics of this task.

[@aliensoup2420]

God did it. It was a miracle. Where is your faith? If you don't believe it you are going to Hell. Stop thinking and just fall on your knees and beg forgiveness. Keep praying until you cry tears of blood.

[@ethandorward2220]

It's a funny thought though, a man living 4000 years ago venturing into the depths of the Australian outback to Rangle up two inland taipan snakes and two western brown snakes, knowing that if any of them bit him he would be dead due to not having any antivenom.

[@CorePathway]

There are so many obvious problems with this story that I as a 6 year old called BS on it and stopped going to Sunday School. It really is too stupid for words to attempt to defend any factual basis for this myth.

[@CorePathway]

@@thecaricature It wasn’t presented as a metaphor; but historical fact. Many cultures have flood stories, and most early cultures assigned the cause of natural disasters to the Gods. It’s just comical, sad and dangerous how some people insist in a factual interpretation of the Bible and seek to enforce this perspective on the rest of us.

[@CorePathway]

@@thecaricature I was talking about my experience in Sunday school, and about people like the current speaker of the house.

[@jeremiahcep]

You would not actually have to feed the animals everyday; you would only need to feed them enough to keep them alive and healthy enough to recover once back on land.

[@agustinfranco0]

feed it as little as you want, it either dies or its still too much food.

[@miaomiaochan]

Back on the land that is devoid of plant life to sustain animal life after the flood receded? What about the changes in the climate and the habitats the animals were adapted to? What about the long journeys each animal would have had to take back to its original habitat without any sustenance? These and so many other concerns make it clear that the flood story is simply physically impossible.

[@Pit.Gutzmann]

It never occurred to me that all plant life had to start from scratch after the flood, as there is only ever talked about animals on the ark!

[@Pit.Gutzmann]

@Crackerjack 2.0 good one! 🤣 Uhm, where was Noah again, when the flood hit?

[@ClashBluelight]

to be fair, the bible is very explicit that the plant life on top of mountains was untouched by the flood. you know, the whole olive branch thing. does make me wonder why nobody thought to seek higher ground to escape though.

[@eniszita7353]

not one part of the fairy tale makes any sense at all. it is hard to comprehend the mentality of someone who can actually believe in such children's stories from the bronze age. it would be like starting a religion around stories of Clifford the Big Red Dog, and retelling tales of the giant dog like they were true.

[@Pit.Gutzmann]

@@eniszita7353 You mean, Clifford is NOT REAL??? 🤔

[@eniszita7353]

​@@ClashBluelight apparently you are not a careful reader of this book: And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and *all the high hills, that [were] under the whole heaven, were covered*. Fifteen cubits upward did the waters prevail; *and the mountains were covered. *

[@mz00956]

Come on. It's really simple. "It's bigger on the inside"😂😂

[@DebunkedOfficial]

🤔 Aha, the Tardis Theory 😉

[@omaraltia]

Doctor who reference nice

[@ap6480]

@@omaraltia what's that

[@mz00956]

@@ap6480 a really good show. You should watch it.

[@ap6480]

@@mz00956 no it isn't

[@Jakeurb8ty82]

Curious how big the Man at the end of the world's ark was from the epic of Gilgamesh - a story that predates the bible by 3000 years.

[@who9387]

And then you have to have enough food and fresh water for this menagerie to last 40 days. Don't forget you'd have to have a massive staff to supply the said food and water and clean up after. Would be a cast of hundreds and they would need space, food and water. I'd imagine it would take thousands of years to actually collect all these creatures from various parts of the world in the first place. Actually building the thing would be the least of Noah's worries.

[@hanzzel6086]

You do not need to store 40 days of food and water, you need to store 200! Because the rain lasted 40 days, the water lasted another 160.

[@majorneptunejr]

Even after the flood they would have no food , because the flood just killed everything on the planet, that includes plant life. I guess they could do a lot of fishing. But just try feeding fish to a sheep.

[@andrejann4874]

😂LOL

[@trolleyfan]

Worse, all those carnivores are going to be eating your *herbivores* before they can breed up a sustainable population...or breed, period, for most of them.

[@AtarahDerek]

Read. The. Text.

[@franklindcottrell]

The fish would also be dead from the massive mixture of fresh and salt water.

[@isaacmason3939]

They knew the flood was almost over because Noah sent out a dove and it brought him back an olive leaf. So there were plants when they came off the boat according to the Bible.

[@martingarixx3426]

Noah caught em' all And kyogre's back was their stronghold underneath simple!

[@cxarhomell5867]

No.

[@zeroinfinity5864]

In the Bible the animals come to Noah

[@abetterworld96]

This is all not considering the fact that given that the flood covered all portion of land, including Mount Everest which is 9 km tall, which means the ark was at the very least a kilometer away from the stratosphere layer (this layer starts at 10 km high), where temperatures are around -35°C (-31°F) and the pressure is relatively low, yet the ark was able to travel at that altitude for months with every animal exposed with no problem.

[@scottyoung4226]

I don't get what's so difficult to believe about this story. All that you need is for one family, in a part of the world that's so dry it takes significant irrigation efforts to farm enough food to eat, to source 1.2 million KG of usuable lumber from one specific type of tree, with no power tools, or advanced metallurgy. Once you've figured that part out, all you need is a bunch of additional miracles.

[@redbaron6805]

Exactly, and then you just need cranes to lift the 12 ton beams into place, be able to transport a massive tree weighing dozens of tons into place for the keel, then water proofing 230,000 sq feet of lumber, to build a ship that would have survived 5 minutes on the water as the weight and torsional forces would have made the ship leak like a colander and it would have sunk before it left the shoreline....

[@fireaza]

The aquatic animals deserve a bit more of a closer look, because it doesn't end well for them if we assume they don't need to come on to the ark because they can live in water. Assuming the flood is caused by rain, that means fresh water, which is bad news for basically every kind of aquatic animal out there. The fresh water will dilute the salt water of the oceans, meaning all marine animals will die. But this water will still be too salty for freshwater animals, so they'll die too. In short, if they didn't include aquatic animals on the ark, there would be none left alive after the flood ends.

[@RequiemWraith]

Brackish dwelling species (lower salinity than a marine environment, but still saline) would be fine

[@Nova28872]

Lol, you really believe some man went and did all this? Religious people are nuts.

[@carsonblok442]

@@Nova28872 lol, ok

[@trybunt]

Not to mention all of the trees being dead

[@_EllieLOL_]

@@Nova28872 this is a theoretical “would this have worked” video

[@ronaldjeffrey8712]

Let's not forget. The food source for a great many of these animals, is other animals.

[@davidhelms67]

Would it have been possible for them to survive on fish during this 150 days?

[@greattribulation1388]

@@ibanezlaney the same way they eat their own placentas.

[@murderboytje]

Lets not forget its Gods work.

[@Teqnyq]

@@murderboytje this tale has so many plot holes. Should've smitten the wicked people instead. I mean, why wipe out animals and plants just to exterminate a few million people?

[@DukeOfJam7591]

@@Teqnyq My favorite plot hole is God having an all encompassing plan, yet he is unable to see "he wickedness of man was great in the earth".... Kinda runs contrary to that Omniscient thing

[@MrRezillo]

Lotta poop to clean up during those 40 days and nights! You'd hardly have time for anything else. You'd also have to have a lot of kibble on board -and the right kind. Koaka bears, for instance, only eat fresh eucalyptus leaves, so you'd have to have a tree or two,

[@manelcolomer9044]

Where, and most importantly HOW, Noa stored the termites? 🤔🤔🤔

[@wozo9210]

Duh, Torah magic

[@CarloAldo]

Armadillos and ant-eaters got fat

[@jambec144]

In case this hasn't already been mentioned: You've misunderstood the 50/500 rule of thumb. 50 is the minimum possible bottleneck population, whilst 500 is the smallest viable population over multiple generations.

[@shinigamiwolfen]

And 500 is probably extremely optimistic in the long term. We don't know the exact numbers but the cheetah is a good example that is doomed to die out because of a bottleneck that happened around ten thousand years ago. They're basically clones of one another even now.

[@kallmekrow822]

I mean the whole point of the noahs ark is to debunk evolution right?

[@jambec144]

@@kallmekrow822 Except that it kinda ends up doing the opposite: To get all present species diversity from a few thousand 'kinds' requires a fantastic degree of hyperevolution.

[@Azathoth43]

Dude, the is mutha' fuckn' Debunked. Don't you fucking dare to make up bullshit about them. They perfectly defined that term in their Debunking video. Why, if they made a mistake with that then that means they could make more mistakes. Their word is law. Now go forth and Believe the Science.

[@jambec144]

@@Azathoth43 Are you addressing me?

[@andrewegan7011]

Giraffes would be liable to get wet with the heads sticking out of the boats top.

[@joesteele3159]

Theoretically speaking, not if the giraffes we babies

[@andrewegan7011]

@Aiden Williams your drawings of the ark would be exciting.

[@matthewhaake5591]

First we don’t know how big the waves would be. Like I’ve been in a storm in a boat with absolutely no waves.

[@dustyak79]

I’d argue the invertebrates can be left out as they could survive on floating debris. Still would be a tall order

[@fleunteur]

It wouldn't change much as these sheep sized animals would Outweight everything

[@lemon_cheesecake]

Me thinking it was a normal video and not realizing it was a premiere 🤡

[@guts6699]

Same

[@speen9430]

Me too

[@DebunkedOfficial]

It goes LIVE in about 10mins so please join us for the Premiere if you can!

[@prestigiotablet6024]

Yep

[@im_amil]

@@DebunkedOfficial 🙉

[@CWHankerson]

People sometimes forget about the birds. I've heard creationist argue that the birds would be spared because they can fly but most birds can not remain on the wing for months at a time. Chickens, turkeys, quails... never wouldve made it.

[@nerychristian]

Birds would be able to rest on all the floating debris and floating dead bodies.

[@RoseLee65]

@@nerychristian What about the ones not able to fly at all? Like chickens and turkeys etc..? Noah's Ark is a fable and science proves it!

[@nerychristian]

@@RoseLee65 Well, if God can make it rain so that the whole Earth is flooded, he can find a way to make the birds survive.

[@ClashBluelight]

wait. didn't noah bring 7 pairs of every kind of bird onto the ark with him? it's even a major plot point that he has a dove with him. birds could also come to rest on the ark before leaving again.

[@piccolo917]

well, I've heard creationist explain kangaroos and other unique wildlife making it all the way to Australia by, and I swear to you that this really happened, by volcanic explosion. This genius thought that all the animals would walk out of the Ark, onto a nearby volcano, that God would exploded it, that they would somehow survive that, the trip through the upper layers of atmosphere and cra- I mean land on Australia. yea... not the brightest bunch, to put it mildly.

[@ou7shined972]

If there is enough rain to flood the Earth, do the oceans become fresh water or is there still enough salt in them to keep everything salty enough for marine life to live?

[@hanzzel6086]

​​@@thecaricatureYeah, enough salt to support life in an additional 7m in height intruduced over several centuries. Not another 26 *thousand* feet in 40 *days* . The resulting water would be too brackish (slightly salty) for 99.9% of fresh water species to survive, but not brackish enough for 99% of salt water species.

[@nookymonster1]

The fact that any educated adult could still believe in the ark story is just sad.

[@davidgardner863]

That’s because most of them are uneducated.

[@connorallgood0922]

I think it's sadder to imagine how a person cannot believe in God. I mean the evidence is everywhere, anyone who denies it is just denying reality. Evolution on a macro scale is impossible and disproven because of DNA, the same thing that they need for it to work, the idea that everything can come from nothing, I mean it takes more faith to be an atheist than it does to believe in the bible.

[@maximillionpegasus5654]

Archimedes hasn't been born yet, thus the physic of water is still free for all for Noah. He can technically build the arc using rocks and it will float because buoyancy is still a couple hundred years away in the future.

[@JustinMods]

So Isaac newton invented gravity?

[@terryschilling5320]

I suppose Einstein invented time and space?

[@linuxbasic3399]

wait Einstein is god. Im coming out with bible of einstein soon.

[@Adventist9917]

You guys realize their comment is a joke, right? More of mocking the video for saying specific things weren't thought of or invented yet.

[@TOXICclanYT]

@@Adventist9917 why are you in every comment section. A word of advice don't waste time here. You are taking this too seriously .

[@ultrasolar5228]

I like the thought that the existence of life depended on a sausage chain of boats

[@animalian01]

Except that is not what it said in the bible it said one ark

[@thearbiterofnoodles]

@@animalian01 yes but it's more fun to imagine a long line of boats

[@ronhansen8471]

@@thearbiterofnoodles Fun will not save your life

[@randomperson4198]

@@ronhansen8471 neither big boat that doesn't even work

[@leovaldez6280]

@@ronhansen8471 said fun would have been more logical tho

[@NewEnglandGaming413]

I want to know where all the water went after this, and where it came from in the first place. If all ice on earth melted right now, the ocean would only rise about 70M. Not anywhere near as high as in the story. So where did the water come from? Where did it all go afterwards?

[@robertmethia7080]

its all just a story-- so is the entire bible or any other religious fiction book. you have to believe in santa claus as an adult

[@NewEnglandGaming413]

@robertmethia7080 you're aware that me questioning where all this water came from or went to was my way of saying that I don't believe the story, correct? We seem to be in agreement, and you still tried to insult me by saying I must still believe in Santa. How are you gonna misinterpret what I said and insult me while doing it.

[@NewEnglandGaming413]

@thecaricature I'm aware. We can ask that question too. Naturally, we have to assume that before this flood, all that water was also underground already, otherwise the land masses wouldn't have been the same. So if the water is already underground, and you can correct if I'm wrong, but the flood was caused from rain? How would the water thats all underground, rise up, out of the ground? Assuming physics were the same at this time period of course, the water would have to all rise out of the ground at once for this flood, then turn into rain, and then all that water went underground again, leaving the same amount of water above ground as was there originally. Most of this trapped water is in rock as well. So we need to figure out how it got out of this rock, then back into it. It's a very tough thing to explain unless you'd wanna assume physics broke for this. This is one thing about the story I can't really understand, there's more.

[@NewEnglandGaming413]

@thecaricature you could be right, i don't think it's anything that can be disproven necessarily, at least now. I wouldn't call it likely at all. I find it much more likely that it's extremely exaggerated. Floods happen. Not to that extent. If it did, everyone would have died. You can't fit every species on the planet on a boat. There are species still being discovered. How did other humans survive, how did animals, especially animals that are separated by bodies of water or are endemic to a certain place fins and get to the ark. Then we gotta figure out how 2 of every species would populate their species again. Inbreeding would be extremely high, leading to a lack of genetic diversity. Minimum viable population is different for each species, but typically varies from a few hundred to a few thousand individuals. 2 individuals just isn't enough to keep the VAST majority of species from going extinct. I can't prove this didn't happen. I don't claim to know what happened. But it seems extremely unlikely for alot of reasons. Where the water came from and went to, how animals got to the ark, how they knew to get to the ark, how others survived, how 2 each species was enough to populate the whole species again when that's very unlikely to happen, then things like plants would have died from being underwater and drowning along with not getting proper sunlight and stuff like that. It's not a story I think makes sense. I wouldn't be surprised if there was floods that was devastating to local areas. But the story as it is is likely exaggerated alot. I respect that you're not trying to talk down on me for having a different opinion on this too. Alot of people get aggressive rather than try to have a normal conversation.

[@LadyDoomsinger]

Let's not forget about the poop. Noah and his family would've had to spend pretty much all day every day just scooping up the poop of all the animals... also, methane poisoning would probably kill every living thing on the ark pretty quickly, considering it supposedly only had 1 door and 1 window (if I remember my Bible correctly).

[@spacecoastz4026]

What if all the animals were young and small....and what if God had put them into a deep sleep? After all, the entire story is full of actions from God...the calling to Noah to build the ark, the guidance God provided to Noah, the calling of the animals, the sealing of the ark door by God, the calling of the rain, etc. Trying to argue or dispute the story based on assumed limitations of man or laws of nature that God controls is silly when you know the biblical story.

[@LadyDoomsinger]

@@spacecoastz4026 Sure, if you're going for the "Magic done it" argument, I'm not going to waste time trying to disprove it - but then why bother talking about how the animals can fit inside, or how Noah and his family cared for them... For that matter, why build the ark at all? Just magic all the animals to safety while God is doing his whole genocide thing, no problem... And why the need for a flood in the first place, if God's just gonna "magic" things the way he wants them anyway? Just "poof" all the "bad" humans out of existence without all the fuss. 🤔 If you're gonna claim "magic" as an argument, don't even bother entering a discussion about physical reality.

[@hanzzel6086]

​@@spacecoastz4026If God is going to micro manage everything, than why not skip the Ark entirely and just individually smite the evil humans? Sounds a whole lot easier to me than having to micro manage the millions of different things he would need to to make the Ark work.

[@spacecoastz4026]

@@hanzzel6086 You miss the purpose of the story...which was about faith and trust.

[@zulunet3285]

​@@spacecoastz4026Except none of that is mentioned in the bible, this is just heresy

[@Mutantgamer]

Even if the rain was fresh water, the sudden change in salinity will kill almost everything aquatic. So Noah has to bring them on board along with f*cking huge tanks of water to live in.

[@GudaGudaPaisen]

If the rain was salty, would have corroded the boat as well.

[@lynxcato3327]

If the water was enough to cover "even the tallest mountains", that means the ark would be in such a high altitude that they would lack oxygen and the temperature would be freezing. That also means the oceanic pressure and salinity would change dramatically, which would kill all sea animals. Nothing makes sense.

[@lucalinadreemur9448]

Regardless of how fresh the rainwater is, if the earth was covered in it, the oceans' and seas' salty water would mix with all the water covering land, making the final mix too salty for freshwater aquatic creatures, and too diluted for saltwater life. In short, every fish would die.

[@Alias_Anybody]

@@lucalinadreemur9448 There are a lot of life forms which can survive a wide range of salinity. Though combined with the massive changes in currents and all we are still facing a 95%+ extinction event.

[@pineapplepenumbra]

@@lynxcato3327 "that means the ark would be in such a high altitude that they would lack oxygen and the temperature would be freezing." Ah, no. Firstly, the rising water levels would push the atmosphere up, and as the huge amount of water being dumped into the oceans (from, you know, god's magic tap) would result in a massive release of energy, that would make the waters boil, apparently, so being too hot, and being surrounded by cooked fish and whales would be more the order of the day.

[@rivalifritdarc2481]

Imagine if Noah make multiple ships that size A floating city full of animal from top to bottom, Sounds really epic

[@lazer2365]

There were 8 people on the ark. Who would feed the animals and shovel their caca over the side on multiple ships? Noah was 500 years old. So he probably wasn't much help.

[@SpiritmanProductions]

Also, for the atmosphere to hold enough water to flood the Earth up to the height of Everest, it would need to be 295km high, and that's if it had sea-level density all the way up, was at a constant 30°C, and was fully saturated with moisture throughout.

[@Williamz9021]

Some people would argue that the earth was very different back then. Mountains as high as Everest didn't exist, and were actually created by the flood waters - the weight of the water pushing down on soft parts of the land pushed the mountains up into existence as they are now. Don't ask, I don't know how it works either. It's just an argument that I've heard. Go figure!

[@mjbalbo]

What is the name of the music that starts at 12:08 ?

[@1984Phalanx]

My Christian aunt: “but god protected them!”

[@carsonblok442]

I mean that literally is the whole point of a lot of the old testament

[@chibibeetle]

For then asking em as sacrifices LOL

[@WolfeofGrey]

The Bible does state God sealed them in the ship

[@eat.sleep.symphony1555]

If that's the case then why not just protect them without the ship? Why make Noah go through the insanely tedious task of building a freaking ship on his own and then make him become a zookeeper for months.. honestly I don't see how it's even possible for one man to build a ship own his own.. oh but then I guess god could have given him some superhuman powers.. so stupid lol.. I'm always amazed at the extent religious people would ignore logic for the sake of religion.. it's just too obvious

[@shaggybottomtext8363]

@@eat.sleep.symphony1555 testing his loyalty, have you actually read the Bible before?

[@richardtree6645]

more fun biblical facts is Noah was the first recorded person in history to circumnavigate the globe in a lengthy quest to capture all living life from every corner of existence. To do this he would have need another boat or boats, he would also have had to navigate some of the harshest terrains on the planet with out a map, such as rainforests, deserts, mountains and at least the South pole because that is also a landmass and wont float like the North pole. Once he had collected these animals he would then have to safely transport them to where he built his ark or arks to safely transport them again when the flood happened. Using math again we could work out how much the sea levels rose to cover all land masses, and then all we need to figure out is where all that water went again to restore landmasses. Noah was clearly well ahead of his time and well educated in everything required to cut trees down, to carpentry, to being a vet or doctor for every species on the planet, an accomplished sailor and navigator, he would have been able to write down his memoires or ships log, and he would have been able to speak dozens of languages because frankly where else could they have come from. He would have been the first human in history to procreate and produce humans of every race and culture, unless he did indeed save more than just his own family. That would mean convincing several humans to join his quest, assist in building ships and rounding up animals, as much as mucking them out and keeping them from eating one another. All while making sure diseases did not kill them all off with no medicines or vaccines

[@DanM-pw9nl]

The size depends on how specific a "kind" of animal was needed. One of each species? Genus? Family? etc

[@dave8323]

This point was quite clearly and explicitly covered in the video. It doesnt make you look clever by making this observation, but quite strongly the opposite

[@montychiton]

@@dave8323 If you take only one representative of a family on the ark, thousands of species will die out, but hey they didn't die out (they must have floated for 5 months)! So the kind = family is a blatant stupid thought, only used for the use to try to make something work that can impossibly work. Instead of the ark God should have used some of his magic, would have been much easier....

[@DanM-pw9nl]

Your comment only makes you look hateful

[@maddhatter3564]

thats a point made in other vids, for example 2 canines which encompas wolves,fox,coyote etc. and the idea of space is the animals didnt need to be adult.Even a baby elephant is much, much smaller and lighter than an adult.

[@montychiton]

@@maddhatter3564 You guys definitively want to squeeze everything in ;-D. You only take one species from a species group and than make that species into the different species again once the flood is over (somebody found the plug?). Elaborate! And only juveniles, ah how clever! And then you make them sleep for months so that they don't move to much and they don't eat and eat each other! And then and then and then .... everything fits fine. Hurrah! Another bible story is literally true, and scientifically proven! Well done guys! ;-)

[@tysonatkins2236]

Regardless of the size of the ark, the elephants alone would need approximately 4,000 gallons of water each, if they're given the minimum amount required. Add the amount of food and water for all of the animals and you see the problem with that. Then you factor in dilemma of food after the waters receed, because the vegetation is dead, or buried under sediment, and there's no food for the herbivores. And the the carnivores can't hunt their usual prey until the herds repopulate to sustainable numbers, which would take several years. There's also the many stories from other religions about other people building boats and saving all the animals hundreds, or thousands of years before, as well as the diversity of wildlife, which would require traveling to every continent to save every species. And don't forget the virtually impossible task of removing animals like elephants, hippos, and rhinoceros from their herds without fierce retaliation!

[@CeeJai_K]

If you’re bringing cockroaches, yea this is the end for me. And I’m totally ok with that.

[@vashmatrix5769]

Be really gross if they didn't exist & nothing ate rotting things.

[@CeeJai_K]

@@vashmatrix5769 this is true.

[@STONKS_MemeMan]

Those animals can die. DIE.

[@TigruArdavi]

And when the waters had receded, Noah said to the animals "Go forth and multiply". Then two snakes came up to Noah and said: "But Noah, we can't, we're adders". So Noah took his axe, and fell a tree, and he built them a log table. 🤣

[@ElliottWong2024]

What are adders? I don't get the joke.

[@konstantinhorizon]

​@@ElliottWong2024 it's a spieces of poisonous snakes living in the UK

[@konstantinhorizon]

​@@ElliottWong2024 and it's also a unit which adds together two input variables. So yeah, it's a wordplay. Like «multiply» «but we're *add*ers»

[@azaanimations319]

@elliotwong6113 Type of snake.

[@tombaillie5219]

And then he said to his bored and frustrated family members: " Go forth and sub-divide!" and handed them various assault rifles and ammo packs... 😜

[@Bigchickens]

Important to note that some theologians have proposed it was a local flood

[@Habibibutbetter]

Man, I remember the Bible verse that specifically stated the size of Noah's ark and the fact it was a global flood. The Bible is obviously fake because of one story! Cmon, let's consume the next product.

[@chadjohnson-authormusician8072]

I can't imagine where they're getting that from. I've never seen anything in any bible version that mentions "the known world" or anything like that. However, they do all say multiple times "the earth" and "every living creature" and "all flesh" and "everything that is in the earth shall die" and "every living substance that I have made I will destroy from off the face of the earth," etc., etc.

[@Lazaven]

After they saw this video 😭😆🤣

[@zulunet3285]

A good way to compensate for your shitty story

[@jasonjungreis203]

I listened to this video while decorating a Christmas tree. Very fitting.

[@vicu_negru]

yes it is! given that the Christmas tree is a pagan tradition...

[@canadianwildlifeservice8883]

Atheists: the bible isn't literal. It's just a metaphor. Christians: the bible is both literal AND and a metaphor.

[@chuckhines459]

If Noah was going to collect all the animals he would have to have traveled over 8,000 miles on foot to secure and transport animals from several continents. Across desserts, oceans, frozen artic and mountains and desserts. At 600 years old. Also he had to find out what animals were male and female. Flies, ants, ticks, snakes etc.

[@marcusmuse4787]

he didn't collect them they came to him, so you haven't read the story.

[@GuillaumeB7]

@@marcusmuse4787 Does not change the facts that jaguars apparently swimmed from South America to get to the middle east and then swam back.

[@michaelmccoy1794]

So many facets of ridiculous to this story. It practically hurts my brain--gives me a HEADACHE--to consider that people (A) believe this themselves and (B) expect ME to believe it and (C) they get indignant and snarky when they find that I DON'T! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@chuckhines459]

@@marcusmuse4787 🤣 That's even more ridiculous!

[@bigbk3278]

@@marcusmuse4787lol right..just a story

[@charlielima9080]

IMO the Ark is the constellation Argo Navis. The same inspiration for Jason and the Argonauts. At one time it appeared to skim upon the Milky Way, and was either being tempted into the rocks by sirens or coming aground after rains receded. Not unexpected, the constellation Columba (Dove) is next to Argo Navis. The Milky Way seems to be used in myth as a river, or fire, bridge or ladder. Describing the Bible as “Divinely Inspired”, would more accurately be described as “Heavenly Inspired”.

[@tv10morehead]

Now that's interesting : Noah having lived over 500 years 6THOUSAND years ago, probably had time to learn and teach the night sky from high altitude , A lot of astronomy/astrology is morphed from Babylon. consider a much smaller globe, smaller seas and no big oceans . With Twice as thick atmosphere there's twice the O2 and what now is considered super saturation possible up to 8000 feet or so, then you have cosmic ray effects on inner earths' primary water (fountains of the deep) SO Adam's near perfect hypobaric garden paradise first gets blocked by 'flaming swords' (lava?) Due to a cosmic ray incident as a roge Red dwarf magneto star swings by gets deflected into a shallow long eclipse, men still live long long lives protected from most cosmic rays but not all the sling shot Nibru swings back in from the north, or a second one as our solar system merges in to the plain of the milky way a storm of impacts causes a explosive decompression, flash freezes millions of animals in the "Arctic" moves the Earths pole, expanse of the pacific is accelerated and slows down about 2500 years ago. The Year and Day gets closer to 365 and 13 months as the moon a captured moon rises out to a 28day orbit By Julius and Agustus, the Romans settle to nearly todays calendar year. See my post with illustrations on : .facebook. com /tvlOtechnoman

[@phakyou]

"All religion is a foolish answer to a foolish question" -Thomas Shelby OBE

[@jacktetra8952]

Science: Debunks the Bible Christians: God works in mysterious ways

[@simeyonwest1092]

Aye hear me out but…God does indeed work in mysterious ways

[@anubisfox5765]

@@simeyonwest1092 prove it or shut it

[@simeyonwest1092]

@@anubisfox5765 Can you disprove it?

[@anubisfox5765]

@@simeyonwest1092 ya easily lol almost all of the bible is utter easily proven nonsense. If the bible is nonsense then the god of it must be by simple logic. If god exist it would be as simple as showing himself to prove it and end all the violence but he doesnt because he isnt there

[@mixstation9014]

@@anubisfox5765 Hey yo! Did you know that Jesus fed thousands of people with a few bread and fish without exceeding ten? Did you also know that God save His child using a Crow? Do you even know what that means?

[@4G12]

The only way the ark could be as small as claimed is if it wasn't carrying live animals, but genetic samples of every species instead.

[@wildsideofthings7733]

Which is highly unlikely in the time the ark was supposedly built

[@MPezant1215]

@@wildsideofthings7733 how is it god destroyed the earth because man ate from tree of knowledge ..do u think we stayed in caves or began manipulating nature hence the flood ? do u think that was done with copper chizzles and rocks ???? ..the bible explains we wasnt cave men in those days but an advanced civilization

[@wildsideofthings7733]

@@MPezant1215 I’m not religious, so I don’t believe anything from any religious texts. I prefer going by what the science says.

[@trollinape2697]

@@wildsideofthings7733 "I prefer going by what the science says." Bruv then wtf why were you on about Noah's Arc something that was said by religious text

[@itisjustacomment]

@@trollinape2697 Pointing out faults in a text doesn't mean you believe the premise. It's would not be an argument reply just to state " arc isn't real bruv". It's a better narrative is to pick it apart. Piece by piece.

[@aaronpincus6095]

Not feeling very bright today? Smile and remember . . . There are grown adults who actually believe that two penguins walked all the way from Antarcitca to the Middle East to get aboard an ark built by a 500 year old man.

[@digita1hero]

And when the flood eventually disappears (where did the water even go?), what food was left on land - it would all have died underwater.

[@slevinchannel7589]

Atheist-KZbinr debunked every sentence in the bible.

[@Dragonlord826]

I'm guessing the water froze over in the arctics

[@thefortnitecuh4900]

The only logical answer here is that the bible is fake

[@craigpenninga9847]

But no. Before the flood the land was much flatter. During it, the tectonic plates moved around and pushed mountains up and other parts sank down forming the oceans. They had much more land than we have now.

[@inwalters]

@@slevinchannel7589 No, he didn't. Clearly not possible. The BIble refers to numerous historical events that even atheists agree happened, so quit spouting such nonsense.

[@shiroamakusa8075]

Wouldn't want to be the one who has to scrub all the animal droppings away on Noah's ark. Would the seven or so people that the crew consisted of even be able to ever get rid of all the dung over the whole 150 day long journey?

[@MichaelClark-uw7ex]

They brought dung beetles

[@bread2512]

As an atheist God probably used magic IDK

[@rickperez4260]

Correct me if I'm wrong. I believe all of the animals were put to sleep.

[@xtremegamrr3719]

The ark crashed on a mountain or sum to rot

[@Grieves0001]

that problem was solved by having only 1 small window, everything died from methane poisoning, so no one left to do the scrubbing

[@GameAnGrog]

When specifying which animals to bring, god had to have meant each species. Because unless creationists believe in evolution, (they don't) they'd have no way of explaining how every different canine came from that single pair of red foxes, or how those 7 pairs of scarlet macaws became every other parrot, etc...

[@natehill8069]

Why build it in the shape of a revenue generating transport designed for maximum speed? Its not going anywhere, it doesnt even have propulsion - basically its a reeeeeeally slow elevator thats only gonna make one cycle. Make it round for stability.

[@robertlane6431]

The sad thing about all of this is that even as a small child the Ark story never made any sense to me and seemed completely impossible, but yet there are grown adults that wholeheartedly believe it! But I guess when one can just accept "God made it work" as an explanation for anything and everything it makes swallowing this BS easy.

[@robertlane6431]

@@maddawg_ plates tectonics compress land masses causing land that was once submerged in the distant past to rise above the water and eventually buckle in areas of weakness allowing them to be pushed further upwards and form into the various mountain ranges we see today leaving the fossils formed from ancient sea life deposited in their rock layers. This is basic middle school stuff. I really hope you don't actually think this is somehow a difficult question to answer.

[@suwako2422]

@@maddawg_ fish riding birds

[@xxxschlodinger5077]

So now what? you gonna believe someone saying things about tectonic plates or you're gonna stick with lardass saying "god made it works". Don't you hear youself? time to wake up from you wild dream and start facing reality

[@johnforerunner2676]

It is even more sad that children can intuit the truth of the story of Noah and the Ark while many adults are blinded by the strictly materialist/reductionist worldview that is popularized today. If we are to understand ourselves and where we are headed as individuals and as a civilization, then we should begin to listen to what Noah has to say. I highly recommend checking out Jonathan Pageau and his Symbolic World channel for more insight into the understanding of these stories and how they lay out the fundamental principles of reality and consciousness.

[@FKBiden666]

Well if you actually aren’t so ignorant and you look the arc has been found and discovered in turkey at the arat mountains. It is 100% real. Say what you want you’re a nonbeliever. I was too.. Ground penetrating radar has confirmed. Core samples drilled have confirmed. The timeline the location. Say what you want but Noah’s ark was 100% real

[@julianmarsh1378]

The whole thing is a folk memory of the relatively rapid melting away of the glaciers at the end of the Great Ice Age...sea levels rose 300 feet or more...rivers would have been enormous...for people living in these regions, life became an adventure...

[@davidwilson7082]

More like the Southern Ice Shelf Breaking Off causing Rapid Rise in Sea Level Plus a Giant Wave.

[@AlDunbar]

300 feet, yeah maybe. But not enough to cover the tops of all mountains as per the book. Speaking of which how would anyone know all the mountains were covered without first knowing all their heights and knowing the depth of the flood?

[@julianmarsh1378]

@@AlDunbar I am not saying the book is correct, only that among many peoples around the world, who experienced a rise in water level such as followed the end of the Great Ice Age, there is your kernel of truth to the myth of a global flood...people embellished.

[@AlDunbar]

@@julianmarsh1378 I didn't think you believed the Noah story, but were just giving a possible reason that various ancient cultures developed a flood story. You may indeed be correct. I was just pointing out a difference between the Noah story and the apparent fact of a 300+ foot increase in sea level should anyone take away the idea that that event was Noah's flood.

[@xtremegamrr3719]

Then how did this happen in 150 days?

[@DoubleMrE]

Noah’s ark is so completely nonsensical I really find it incredible that anyone could possibly believe it’s true.

[@davidoverstreet6900]

Even as a child, I knew there was no way that 7 pairs of every species of animal on Earth could fit on a boat that size, Along with the food requirements for both the animals and Noah's family. Not to mention tens of thousands of gallons of fresh water. Also, Noah and his family would be working nonstop, taking care of the animals, both feeding and removing waste. This is evidence of the ancient Jews extremely limited and circumscribed knowledge of the range of animal species throughout the world. Noah did exist, and did build a round floating structure that he, his family and his family's animals took refuge on. The rest of his village was wiped out by the local, springtime flood, from a combination of extremely heavy snow runoffs from the northern mountains, and extremely heavy spring rainfall. These round floating boats still exist today in the same region, 5,000 years later. But if you want to get literal, I would have to surmise that it would take a boat About a mile long, a 1/2 mile wide and a 1/2 mile high to fit all of those animals, and the required food and water. And I don't even want to begin to think about the ever Increasing urine odor LOL.😄

[@ramptonarsecandle]

One other important point is that there’s not enough water to flood the earth to that depth so the story is a nonstarter.

[@Terry1950Men]

How much fresh drinking water would they have also needed I wonder?

[@pineapplepenumbra]

Even if one melts all the water in Greenland and the Antarctic, that only raises sea levels to 126th the height of Everest (although there are 3 mountains that could be considered the tallest on Earth). Was the water fresh? That would have killed off most marine life. Or was the water saline? That would have killed off most fresh water species. Even that point is irrelevant, as the amount of water needed, being dumped that quickly, would result in a tremendous release of energy, enough to boil seas, so anything that lived near the surface, and/or needed to breath air (all the whale species, orcas, dolphins, porpoises, turtles, etc) would also have to be accommodated on the Ark.

[@pineapplepenumbra]

I see that Opponens Periculo removed his post, however, it ended with: "There's really not one group of people or civilisation today that do not have ancient stories, written down or told for generations, about "the great flood"." I would like to point out that no ancient civilisations could have stories about the biblical Great Flood, as they would all have been wiped out by it, with the exception of 8 people. Also, people had to live near rivers, or some sort of fresh water, until they invented decent ways of transporting fresh water, so of course they would have flood stories.

[@ramptonarsecandle]

@@pineapplepenumbra he probably realised it was a crap comment, put it down as just another religious numpty

[@pineapplepenumbra]

@@ramptonarsecandle Sounds about right.

[@AMC2283]

Better question-isn’t drowning and saving via boat rather inefficient for a god? Isn’t creating people to be executed in any way inefficient for a god?

[@Gumpmachine1]

Don’t question it too hard or it won’t work

[@AMC2283]

@@Gumpmachine1 stop asking completely logical questions?

[@Gumpmachine1]

@@AMC2283 if you want to believe the story, then yes

[@Clausewitz-jl8cl]

Well if god gives you free will to do whatever you know earth is kinda not his place its ours

[@bjaaro4380]

God is not about efficiency he is about free will. He gave us the ability to act our own but also gave laws as well. When mankind chose not to follow the laws he flooded the earth

[@kentl7228]

Who had the job of putting on condoms onto the animals, to keep them from breeding. The ants were surely difficult...

[@franimal86]

The fact that the ark not only would have to hold the animals, but then also contain miniature ecosystems to keep them alive, is the death knell for me. How do you keep animals that hunt in freezing temperatures together with tropical birds that die in freezing temps? What do the obligate carnivores even eat on this ship? Lol the other animals?

[@redbaron6805]

Yep... how do you keep enough insects to feed all the lizards and birds. How do you keep enough vegetation for 6 months to feed the herbivores, and enough extra animals along with food to feed the carnivores. The entire story is obvious fiction, as without climate control, refrigeration and massive amounts of storage, the entire project is basically absurd...

[@eduardodias983]

​@@redbaron6805No, the story of Noah's ark was a historical event Archaeology has proven various biblical events, even SUPERNATURAL stories from the Bible ...

[@redbaron6805]

@@eduardodias983 It obviously wasn't as there isn't a shred of evidence anywhere on the planet that the story is even remotely true or even remotely possible. But there is literally mountains of evidence it is not.