How Billy Waugh Hunted Terrorists as the Most Deadly CIA Assassin Ever | Annie Jacobsen

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Full episode: kzbin.info/www/bejne/d5KnomudbK58lac Danny Jones Podcast channel: www.youtube.com/@Koncrete Annie Jacobsen is a Pulitzer Prize finalist and New York Times bestselling author. Her newest book Nuclear War: A Scenario looks deep into the heart of the nuclear military establishment & is based on dozens of exclusive new interviews with military and civilian experts who have built the weapons, have been privy to the response plans, and have been responsible for those decisions should they have needed to be made.

[@DevinHurst-py2kr]

Danny, you SCORED with that interview! That lady has been on other programs. She’s so smart, interesting, and her depth of knowledge is bottomless. Great work Buddy! Thank you for a great interview. I look for her across formats. Terribly interesting every time!

[@MarkyMark1986]

My uncle served with billy in Nam. My uncle was issued the congressional Medal of Honor along with Bennie Adkins for their actions in Vietnam.

[@lucid6067]

Just purchased a bunch of her audiobooks because she does the narrations and I love military history. She’s the best!

[@sukaenacornelius9285]

As a bi woman, I typically like younger. But she does have a very seductive voice. My boss is a short asian woman. Sadly she isn’t bi😂 she has similar voice.

[@elianproductions5128]

@@sukaenacornelius9285 her breathy calm voice makes me wanna fall sleep

[@sukaenacornelius9285]

@@elianproductions5128 lol i need her to read gates of fire. I could fall asleep every night. It was my husbands favorite book. He was military.

[@beausmith6010]

Annie is an amazing writer and brilliant mind. Billy Waugh was.....Billy Waugh. No one else like him. He was a true warrior on so many levels.

[@Pinakij]

She’s pretty good on Audible too. I just downloaded a couple of her books and she read it amazingly

[@1anre]

Reminds me of Mad Mike O'hare. The famous mercenary operator. Was still plotting and executing coups as an octogenarian

[@michaelslater6839]

@@PinakijThanks for the comment.

[@gregb7595]

Lmao

[@Eventual-Visitor]

I also have a morbid curiosity about how a serial killer mind works.

[@ncstonecrew]

Billy Waugh is a Special Forces legend. His skills were of great use to the CIA. LEGEND!!!

[@selinainsel6198]

Does your CIA really work for humanity or even you?

[@RedRumble14]

the equlizer?

[@carverbob54]

"He's 87, why would he take this big wad of cash to a 3rd world country?" That is part of the reason that he made 87!

[@JoeSakich]

Financing terrorists?

[@AcidDreadz]

where everyone has a price

[@REAPERDEFENSE]

I just came across this video randomly searching for something totally unrelated, but when I saw Billy’s name, I had to comment. Billy was one of the best men I ever had the experience to sit down and share stories with over a few drinks. I tried to learn as much as I possibly could get out of the man on how to be a better operator. Rest in peace Mr. Waugh, and thank you for every bit of information you’ve passed.

[@CamperVanClark]

I love her voice. I wish she would read me bedtime stories.

[@JohnDoe69986]

She narrates her audiobooks

[@zerofrindz]

Sultry bedtime stories...lol

[@CtrlAltDelite]

I got to meet Billy Waugh in 2017. A good friend introduced me and others in a small group. We had lunch and bs'd for a couple hours. The man was a riot. Told stories. Stalking bin Laden. Dog cussing Bill Clinton and a few others. Busted our balls as if he had been friends with us for years. A chance to meet a real legend. RIP Mr Waugh

[@TheKnack-2004]

Woman... your voice....I'm sold!

[@ChiIeboy]

Funny. Five minutes into the interview, I knew I'd never buy or read one of her books.

[@BRExteriorPro]

​​@@ChiIeboy I really notice when people say "yeah, yep uh-huh, yeah, yeah ,yeah, uuuhhuh, yeah, yeah, yeah" all before the guy gets a few words out of his mouth . That tells me that she isn't really listening or is bored. I call that bobblehead when someone does that to me conversation is basically over, because they are full of themselves and not really listening.

[@tomcampbell6363]

Whew!

[@Jinka1950]

@@ChiIeboyagree.

[@theLoneWolfSpeaks]

Great interview. Annie Jacobson is a great writer. Read this book last year. Fascinating. Will probably read it again

[@dennismasters8669]

"Did he pay to have your table fixed?" Wtf dude that's what you get hung up on lol

[@passedthemark]

I knew this would be the first comment. Danny doesnt deserve this job.

[@openmythirdeye]

😂Yeah, what happened to the fork also. Kind of silly

[@blackshirtsd9916]

This dude has no clue on how to interview intelligent people. Has no idea on how to read the room. And interrupts constantly during important stories & makes immature comments.

[@buttneked3963]

@@blackshirtsd9916this is the dumbest KZbin er

[@nunzioification]

Was there food on the fork? I mean, give us details!

[@robbhendrickson]

I know an ex Delta Force guy who was recruited from there into SAD/SOG as an operator. And he has been involved in the private sector of the MIC since leaving SAD/SOG in a related capacity assessing security vulnerabilities of high value installations. Many times I have asked him for just one true story that would blow my mind. But he insists that everything he did with SAD/SOG was and is still classified and that he’s already told me the one thing he could tell me that isn’t. I won’t get into specific details to protect his identity, but the gist is: He was on a CIA helicopter spying on another special operations branch and he and the other CIA personnel knew that personnel from this other branch had made an error that was going to result in the deaths of multiple members of that group (which it did). They could have intervened to prevent these preventable deaths, but didn’t. So that’s a bit surprising (i.e., the CIA choosing to allow American service members to die). But what’s also surprising (to me, at any rate), is that the CIA covertly spies on various branches of our own military to obtain bargaining chips at the Pentagon. That’s not my speculation; that’s the reason he gave me in answer to “Why were you guys spying on them?”

[@1anre]

And give themselves away as spying on said branches? You know SOF branches don't play well with that type of info

[@robbhendrickson]

@@1anre - I did ask him about that. He told me that they all spy on each other to get dirt to use as "chits"

[@tomcampbell6363]

George Orwell! To the tenth degree.... whose watching the watchers?

[@katyg3873]

I mean the cia were involved in killing dea agent Kiki camerena in Mexico. So…

[@brianscantlin8247]

Billy is The Goat.

[@Jowen717]

I have 3 (I think) of Annie's books. All great!

[@frphxkaboom3008]

So many twists and turns in intelligence it's a wonder we are still alive . and now Ukraine. ...I love her voice

[@HondoHozho]

The CIA has had a strange definition of the term terrorist. So, there's that.

[@chrismcclain6518]

Anyone who spreads “false misinformation” is a domestic terrorist now according to the homeland security release statement during COVID a few years ago so yeah…

[@charliebrown1435]

Facsinating, stimulating awesome discussion. I love you both beautiful humans.

[@PatrickGibbons-zk9sp]

The mission is not “Oscar 8”. Oscar 8 was the site of the NVA Headquarters in South Vietnam West of the A Shau Valley in Northern Laos. We sent more than Billy into that area. SOG teams literally disappeared and were never heard from again. It was a SOG hot spot and the most dangerous are in all of Indo China. Every time in we got our butts kicked. It was never taken.

[@tomcampbell6363]

Geezus! And I'm of an age to remember a lot about that war. Had relatives that came home a literal train wreck. And one in particular that didn't come home. I would imagine that there are hidden facts that are even stranger than the craziest fiction ever written.

[@c-w-h]

Thats because our military was completly compromised. You know that pissed Billy off.

[@C-24-Brandan]

Billy is an absolute legend, real life action hero and probably one of the deadliest/most skilled CIA operators in the history of the agency. Many legitimate people have told stories of meeting him, working with him etc.

[@Jeffplsgo]

“Hero” bros done dirty work for one of the dirtiest organizations on earth.

[@paratrooperlane7022]

@@Jeffplsgo Not every one is corrupt within their unit.

[@Jeffplsgo]

the cia itself is@@paratrooperlane7022

[@SiriusDogStar369]

Billy did what Billy was told to do.

[@TheJaniceJoy]

And he was ever told to do something that they knew Billy wouldn’t choose to do. 😏

[@garetjaxusmc]

Right?

[@vincentvega5686]

where was billy when jfk was in dallas in '63? lol

[@PhD777]

Billy Waugh was a true Texan (from Bastrop, Texas) that epitomized the story of "one riot - one Texas Ranger".

[@johnbravo7542]

I find it fascinating how gullible people are and will believe anything someone tells them.

[@beauknowz]

Was Billy married? How about an interview with Mrs. Waugh!?!? Imagine Annie and Mrs. Waugh having a conversation and sharing “Their” stories! There are few if any audio biographies of interviews with the wives of the men who changed the course of history, lived history, or the men, such as Mr Waugh, who made history we never knew of. Annie’s voice…. Charming, intoxicating, beautiful.

[@davidoconnor1773]

Annie's book described him as a lone wolf and a singleton, it seems he spent long stretches in-country on missions by himself. I doubt he was ever married or had any kids.

[@steve5425]

Billy was married.

[@davidoconnor1773]

@@steve5425 yeah, coincidentally this past weekend I saw a clip of Ric Prado where he said that after Billy died, his widow reached out to him to tell him Billy considered him a true friend. It made me think of this YT comment lol!

[@dalesimpson8083]

Billy was a legend and a great American, so lucky to have met him over the years. DOL Billy.

[@boogboog8097]

The Hanoi story. Anyone capable carries a blade in high crime countries, so his point about the fork was really that he would carry a knife, like always.

[@jackbauer4186]

It's an incredible shame the only vidoe interview Waugh ever did was a 30-min shot show by the interviewer. How Joe Rogan never had this dude on for a 5 hour podcast is an absolute crime. Dude worked for the agency for 70 yrs.

[@BenjaminKaiser-p3w]

No it’s not, I know there’s at least 1 other interview that’s on camera and actually is shot in the same place her interview was (Billy’s patio/sun room?). My question is: did he ever sit down and give an interview to someone who is specifically interviewing him to conduct research for a biography they’re working on about Billy? Or would he refuse to sign off on a book written about him, even if nothing classified appeared in it?

[@davidoconnor1773]

He did not work for the agency for 70 years. He was in his mid 40s, and working for the freaking Post Office, when he was hired by the Agency. Technically it was "only" 28 years (77-05), but he was also not a full time CIA employee, he was hired on a per-job basis. All this was outlined in Jacobsen's book.

[@jackbauer4186]

@@davidoconnor1773 That's called working for the Agency. Whether he was on contract basis or not, he was still working for the agency.

[@davidoconnor1773]

@@jackbauer4186 You missed the point I was making. Its that it was not a continuous 28 years that he was active, he was on and off sporadically during that time.

[@lastknowngood0]

Annie is an awesome autheress with a killer voice. Love you Annie.

[@gregb7595]

Lmao

[@fellspoint9364]

Dilettante

[@mbb12]

Right,right,right,right

[@TheNomad2727]

she has plenty of rights left yet

[@razzbazle1582]

It was nauseating, right? Lol

[@Becarhodzic]

This is Billy W she’s talking about. Have some respect for the greatest operator in US Military history!

[@gregb7595]

Rrriiiigh?

[@tihic27]

Stories go around and around and around and around

[@federationspace5264]

right right? right? right right right? right? right???? right?

[@cannonplumbinganddrainllc4221]

thats my grandmas brother, his mom was lillian waugh, from bastrop tx

[@johnharrison1974]

One of the best books I've read lately

[@Molloy1951]

She had no idea how safe it is to walk with $10k cash in Vietnam.

[@dbrown2264]

Aside from her saying, "Right?" every two seconds, this was a good discussion. Seems like an interesting book.

[@pavlestanimirovic8040]

He introduced me to my favorite handlers

[@jeffgoesrandom4217]

Old guy dies and this lady can say he said anything. Sure.

[@brucewilson1958]

So many books and movies about spies and assassins but who has befriended the real thing? I'm not celebrating what this man did, rather, pointing out how unique this guy was, the skill set and contacts, the knowledge base, courage and effectiveness. A world class Bad Ass. WOW. Thrilling, Scary, and Disgusting...all at the same time.

[@jasonosborne9063]

Annie Jacobsen is a great great woman and journalist. There’s a reason Badass Billy chose her.

[@Boy90547]

Please make movies about his missions. Would be in box office

[@user-hs7ps3egdkdkd]

That people actually believe USA is a force for good is naive. Not usually or not always. And the taxation is beyond comprehension.. look at the state of the USA Today.

[@JohnAdams-xc5yk]

45% of Americans pay no tax the top 10% pay 75%

[@PrettyRickyDanko]

@@JohnAdams-xc5ykwrong, the top 10% (which has the vast majority of the wealth) pays 43% while the middle class pay more than half. So everyday Americans pay for more than the rich. Stop spreading lies on the internet. And why are you defending multi millionaires? You’re just a working class person, you’re weird.

[@1anre]

The old man was wild. I'd like to know what her resume is, and why Billy agreed for her to get really close to him and the one to be selected to tell his life story

[@williamthomas4125]

Sometimes it is all about timing and proximity. Other than that, she is as good as she needs to be.

[@JohnnyLandscape]

Brains,persistent,polite,and female.

[@1anre]

@@JohnnyLandscape there’s 3Billion women that fit that profile, you’d have to be alot more specific why her exactly

[@brianfahey2864]

Annie goes in to that a bit in "Surprise, Kill, Vanish". It's a great read. Her bonafides are commendable.

[@crevecouer6772]

How is this woman so great ? Can she ever get to the point?

[@Padoinky]

B/c her goal, as she says time and time again in these PR sessions, is to get you to buy her book(s), which, of course, don’t disclose anything of substance either

[@mounirbensahal539]

Jacobsen annie a very credible source of high confidential agencies files she knows a lot 🙏🏿👑

[@eggsbacon1538]

Annie’s voice is ASMR

[@1anre]

How

[@benz500r]

Billy was a character, but destructive.

[@ewelinanarewska4695]

I absolutely love your show. Recently discovered and admiring. My one suggestion technically, you have all these incredible people on your show INCREDIBLE.. Please get better lighting. On multiple shows its just hard to watch. Be kind with it, not just blinding and harsh. Love you, respect you. Make it better bb

[@georgemacdonell2341]

I'll bet there are 50 billy waugh charters in our service, bless 'em all.

[@billsinclair313]

The games people play…….

[@La_Cosa_Nostra_Centrel]

Billy waugh was a legend and all operators carry cash like that in a pocket out of country just as I assume he wore a Rolex watch not only because it's a automatic but because if you need to get over a border without a passport everyone anywhere knows what a Rolex is and everybody wants u.s currency it's common practice for seals green berets agency contractors just ask Sean Ryan.

[@jim-gb7sj]

No disrespect but this woman has the most amazing voice.

[@Dub-ro9tk]

I have a feeling there’s some fact and a lot of fiction embedded in these stories. She knows how to promote herself, that’s for sure.

[@anewdayali2538]

For someone who researches agents, spies and CIA operatives, I find it so stupid that she had to wonder and ask why he has £10,000 in cash. Excuse me ma’am they don’t want any trail that leads back to them, also with cash it’s easier to purchase what you need as you go, in emergencies he has cash on him instead having to try find someone to get that money for him etc..

[@1anre]

Maybe she thought he wanted to go to a strip bar or something foe his age and she was surprised

[@thedolenorway]

@@1anre If he wanted it in singles that would be a bit suspect! 😂

[@stephenleecarr9951]

I like Annie but going to start a movement against the phrase/word "right?" No. Not necessarily right. "Right?" needs a documentary of its own.

[@stephenleecarr9951]

It's this very common, incessant verbiage of the last 10 years.

[@IOWAANON]

She always makes it bout her just tell Waugh stories

[@kcopara1]

No. You're projecting.

[@dwightcurrie8316]

There Are Over 1,58,000 Graves, many unmarked, to say "Billy Was Right"

[@mikeglynn5824]

Good Men have to evil things in the middle of the night to preserve freedom.

[@AthelstanKing]

Not true and actually really gay. Defending yourself isnt evil, doing evil shit is always wrong, these orgs love civi lapdogs who spout dumb shit in their defense.

[@BeautifulDove-i7u]

Has NOTHING to do with freedom

[@JohnAdams-xc5yk]

To have a weapon that could have saved American lives and not use it is criminal

[@MkShantrul]

I want to hear those stories

[@alittletexasingeorgia]

It is something to think about for all. To be at war and see all the horrors that man can and will do to other men does beg one to seek any means to end the war as early as possible. Such was the case for ending WW2 in Japan. Here we are on the brink of WW3 maybe and with all of the modern weapons we have at our disposal now and what kind of carnage that will bring to our cities. I remember the episode of Star Trek where two civilizations had been fighting but were so abhorred of all the killing that they let computers do the fighting and decide how many were killed on both sides. Of course, they had to be killed and it all became sanitized and easy, and that is why it went on forever. They forgot how war was ugly and when the computers were destroyed they didn't know what they were going to do. Maybe one day we will get there with AI. Hopefully not. But watching the war in Ukraine and the soldiers being killed by all of these drones and having no way to protect themselves really scares me for our sons and daughters if and when they will have the next call to go abroad. So everyone better start thinking about the present condition of things today. Our world isn't the same as yesterday. It's a whole new ball game out there.

[@s.v.discussion8665]

A good representative of the American people.

[@devildawgpryde4764]

I wonder if Billy knew Bob Goeman, the original Tunnel Rat.

[@marine919]

We Marines never lost a battle in Vietnam. Politicians took care of that part.

[@chrisdunnettmusic]

There needs to be an accurate biopic of this guy

[@1anre]

Also wonder who the current "Billy waugh" of today is. Dale Comstock gave a bit of that vibe

[@1anre]

@MrChuckwagon55 ground branch is GRS or SAG or what exactly? And what is their monthly pay like there ?

[@johnloftus6043]

He rode for the brand. Ride or die?

[@Becarhodzic]

Billy was the brand!

[@RoscoPColetraneIII]

Billy Waugh is the man all other men hope to be.

[@shifty4640]

Danny, did he pay for the table?, Annie, No.. 😂😂 Danny the table don't matter.. your not gonna make it to Special forces Danny😂

[@davidaldridge5716]

@ 9:03 I think that’s a tad naive Regarding the chain of command or order of verbal communication….she said “it goes from President to Cofer Black (cia) to Billy Waugh Realistically the President is probably cut out of that equation. And it’s not hard to imagine how an off the books unchecked monster could form over time

[@steve03260]

Funny listening to her try to give advice to the SGM

[@alexlim1275]

count how many time you hear right... right... right... right...

[@brunozachary]

Terrorists? You mean like parents who are concerned about their childs education?

[@BenjaminKaiser-p3w]

Care to elaborate?

[@JohnAdams-xc5yk]

You would have not learned very much from an interview with Mr Waugh it is all classified, i am 81 and have a secret clearance to this day most of what i saw is still classified

[@Pinakij]

If that many people know about him, how could he be effective?

[@rolanddeschain965]

Yeah, no ish. But this is CIA stuff, so hook line and sinker😂😂😂

[@Pinakij]

@@rolanddeschain965 Nothing like going covert on a podcast that 14 million people listen to

[@nick6.0wen]

You're apparently uneducated regarding the types of disguise etc that the CIA employs....

[@SteveHealey-yq5on]

They are talking about an 80 y/0 man. Nobody spoke of him when he was operating at his height

[@TheNomad2727]

hes not still in Vietnam fighting the Kong

[@zoezoe610]

Assassins don't go to heaven. Have a think about that.

[@LilSebastian_]

No one does… it’s not real.

[@MrChuckwagon55]

What about the Chinese who assassinate 100,000 plus Americans per year with fentanyl they make no money off of that they send here? Is that not war? That’s two ten year Vietnam deaths every year. Trump said if he was elected again he would send SOCOM into Mexico and destroy every cartel.

[@JohnAdams-xc5yk]

Hahaha

[@pdubz3923]

Right? Right?

[@JesusParra-tr7bz]

The US government considered the use of a tactical Atom bomb to relieve the the seige at Dien Bien Phu. An American geneal actually made an areial recon to see if it was feasible and his opinion was yes and he recommended the use of the plan.

[@JohnSmith-zw6tr]

Because we know anyone who works for and with Intelligence always tells the public the through when answering any questions in and out interviews, right? Hahahahaha

[@Manny0404]

The human embodiment OF ASMR

[@michaelslater6839]

Anyone here read the book?? It looks really interesting.🤨

[@mounirbensahal539]

Thank you annie Jacobsen 🙏🏿👑❤

[@jimdelarosa9776]

I liked Concrete

[@Dobie_ByTor]

Billy was the IRL Grey Man.

[@Bumbaclartios]

Me: lmfaoo Annie: it’s not funny. Me: not at all.

[@nickzaspel5744]

Why wouldn’t be the government closed the borders

[@humslumjake04081996]

the point is, this lady has never met billy Waugh and by just her facial expressions she seems shocked by each question

[@jeffthomas5291]

This is FRUSTRATING. A hectic conversation.

[@WilsonPendarvis-tn3wm]

The F word stood for frustration in his life

[@rolanddeschain965]

" so then me and Billy rode a seesaw while writing a screenplay , then the cia guy said , hey, let's drop acid....wtaf😅

[@LONEWOLF78.]

Yeah,yeah,yeah, right, right= hurry up I want to talk

[@ANTHONYPAOLICELLI]

American money is your ticket out of trouble overseas period!

[@danielmeuler2877]

I'd rather have a Guy like Billy on my team than Yellow, lily livered Coward.

[@billdanosky]

So the question still remains, "How did Billy Waugh kill terrorists as the most deadly CIA assassin ever?" Because this video NEVER SAID. Blocking...

[@brentbeacham9691]

‘Did he pay for the table.’ 🙄

[@Stearnsstone]

So Extrohhdinary!

[@mrrjh5609]

This is the thing these people are murderers

[@renstimpy3568]

yall wanna know who chuck norris has nightmares about? this guy