How Bioshock Infinite Has Changed Since 2010 - Gameplay Comparison - 2011, 2012, 2013

[@MacieJay]

The only thing I find better about the original 2010 version is the tone of Columbia; it has that horror feel to it which was more fitting for the Bioshock franchise. But that is not to say that the final version wasn't good, it still had some of the best atmosphere of any game out there, I just wish they'd apply that great atmosphere towards a style more like their predecessor.

[@MrGamelover23]

I think the contrast in tone and atmosphere was way better than yet another dark creepy world.

[@HydroHypo]

+Tech Freak well that's not what a bio shock game is, not some atmospheric pretty sky game. There's plenty of those for the rest of you.

[@thejuanandonly8557]

+Tech Freak the game could have still have a creepy tone yet still look bright and colorful the 2010 demo pretty much proved it

[@--insertcoinhere--7195]

Wow. Thought you were some fake account...

[@podel4701]

Wtf macie?? OL

[@Danielviomusic]

I loved the final version of Bioshock Infinite. But I gotta admit it felt dissapointing to have the sky rails hugely flawed. I was hoping to travel long distances by sky rails, and doing cool things like sky fights and so.

[@satbirsingh7299]

Yup thats what I missed most while playing it.

[@alexdonaldson6480]

ratchet and clank style?

[@NeutralGuyDoubleZero]

Im still kind of sad at how infinite was changed. The 2010 version seemed to have a far more edgier and psychotic world

[@TheSkyHazCloudz]

While I do like the world in the demos better, I can understand the change. It seems chaotic as far as the plot goes. I don't know if the destination changed between the demos, but if it hadn't, the old world doesn't make much sense.

[@dorskien]

North American KZbinr Hard to believe seeing how the company who made the game is no more.

[@ninopolis2787]

I know this is two months old, but whatevs. I honestly really like the looks of the old environment, but i think the juxtaposition of the beatifully looking, almost serene and peaceful environment with the themes the story has is just better,

[@LokiTheClever]

NeutralGuyDoubleZero The final product to me was a disappointment dishonored was less disappointing and was a far superior game (especially in terms of gameplay)

[@ninopolis2787]

Blake Dusa Dishonored had a very rushed, mediocre ending. The gameplay was a ton of fun. But calling it superior...i dunno. It has a very lazy evil/hero mechanic and storywise it was decent up untill the granny "bossfight". From that point on (As far as i can remember) it went downhill (Maybe even before that). I haven't played Bioshock Infinite enough to compare the two.

[@LoneWanderer101]

*Fun Fact & Spoiler* Each of the Elizabeths you see in the final moments of the game are from the previous versions of the game. Do to the multiple worlds approach of the game it means that everything in you see in the previous game trailers actually happens but in different universes.

[@AmargoMariano]

Nice comment.

[@rexus6654]

Wonderful comment.

[@zevoks6577]

Sir i hope you go to heaven for placing that Spoiler Alert i just got the game and want to enjoy it

[@TheOldBlackShuckyDog]

Just wish you got to play more of them

[@Brex10]

Lone Wanderer is this a dlc'd version of the game iv played it and havent seen alot of this

[@Iqbalx1]

they should have kept songbird being a huge threat I was so bad there wasn't a boss fight against him

[@Rilumai]

Songbird was a huge threat, though.

[@SBV123]

I think he meant gameplay wise.

[@MisterJohnDoe]

SBV123 But still

[@actingislife100]

The song generally freaked me out, so yeah I wish it was in the game more as well

[@SergeantSatire]

Elizabeth be like: "IcanhelpIcanhelpIcanhelpIcanhelp" 3:53

[@SergeantSatire]

Help me Dew-lan

[@catsadilla324]

***** Here, Mr Dewitt! An unpinned grenade! Catch!

[@humanbeing9140]

Booker catch!

[@rahul-qm9fi]

m I o . o I m lol

[@MisterJohnDoe]

Booker! I know you’re low on health but here’s some salts! Catch!

[@AdelioNightstorm]

You didn't mention that one of the original ideas for Infinite was that using Elizabeth's powers were supposed to physically hurt Elizabeth, meaning that the more you used them, the more she would show signs of damage.

[@slvrcobra1337]

I totally forgot about that. That dynamic was one of the most interesting things about her character, and I was curious to see what was causing her nose to bleed. Guess we'll never know now, right Mr. Levine?

[@odatchifan]

That would have changed so much :O not sure if i would like it or not, since we cant say much about the rest of the game ^^

[@ambientRenagade]

that would've been so awesome, would've added myriads more complexity to her character.

[@AntiGravityC9]

I'd very much like that kind of power on Elizabeth. She is kind of way too powerful in the final game, you don't have to bother thinking about which tears to open because you can just switch anytime you wish with no consequence on her.

[@accelerator8558]

damn something like that on the actual game sound nice because add more difficult and way more mistery to Elizabeth

[@isirlaughsalot2675]

The original game looked like something we could have never got. It was too ahead of its time and was just a polished demo. A perfect demo like that could never have been a full-fledged game. Maybe that could have been the case today, but not then. Maybe on PC then, but not on consoles. What we got, while much different, was story over combat, and I feel the thematic experience was better than the action-packed shooter of before. Though the creepy atmosphere of the original demo was missed.

[@Y2Crouch]

The final thing wasn't a full-fledged game either. It was just a scripted corridor shooter.

[@onyxtay7246]

I actually really liked the combat, and while they may have sacrificed parts of it to make the story better I find that fine. For me the combat is what truly forged a bond between Booker and Elizabeth. The way that she was always there to help him, and helped pull off some of the most epic moments I've ever experienced was wonderful. Charging through a mob of men, and then leaping behind a bit of cover that wasn't there before, on the last bit of your health. Then jumping out as she throws you a medkit, you turn around as a motorized patriot spins up his gun, and you shoot him in the face. So I found the gameplay really good, and can't wait to play through it again on hard mode.

[@adikkuchan]

I'm currently playing it on Hard, and lemme tell you now that Handymens will be your bane xD

[@Xerazal]

Its something that we could have gotten. Would it have taken longer to develop? probably. at that graphical fidelity? Definitely no. But it could have been done. My guess is that they couldn't find a way to portray the story that they wanted to, so they cut out everything but the story parts.

[@xXnecneoXx]

tbh, hard wasn't very... well, hard. I thought it needed to be even more challenging. to me, it felt like normal difficulty. and the handy men? predictable. they're easy to take down. they're just bullet sponges.

[@Yuutex]

3:53 Uhm.....Elizabeth?

[@samicosplay9521]

what is she doing? 😂😂

[@davidchun6301]

Sarah Elias Dancing. LOL

[@IAssassinII]

Next gen AI.

[@Yuutex]

Yup ^^

[@odatchifan]

Someone shall help her! please! xD

[@allnotathome]

Somewhere out there in a parallel universe someone is playing a better version of Bioshock Infinite.

[@Yonkage]

+allnotathome Somewhere out there in a parallel universe, someone played through it and then realized that they are, in fact, Comstock, and had their daughter drown them in their bathtub.

[@otimo144]

+Crazycliff98 Somewhere out there in a parallel universe there is a Crazycliff98 that finds WESKER terminator funny

[@Crazycliff98]

Otimo maybe...

[@xXPowerSurgeXx]

somewhere in the multiverse theyve actually made the game in its original vision that can run on on a console

[@Ezio999Auditore]

mmmmm, noice, *winks*

[@hopppor4113]

they should have stuck to the 2011 version.

[@SylentLight]

then the ratings would go from 10/10 to 5/10 real quick

[@c_o_l_m]

The grass is always greener on the other side, my friend.

[@halfassedhero500]

budget is a scary thing my friend :(

[@quantictaco8832]

1 out of 2 Luteces would agree

[@notoriousbig3k]

it would had high rating

[@fforrestfunkk]

we all played the other versions of it. I played it - only not in this universe. But another me and you defeinitely played it.

[@Aserith]

Yeah, i saw thought all the doors, i definetely played the other versions of the game, there are always constants and variables.

[@solm1276]

YEEEEES!!! :) That makes me feel much better about this situation. Thank you.

[@Quazar355]

The more open world aspects of the demos are what i miss the most. The fact that you could explore Columbia as a massive unscripted world would have been an awesome feature when compared to the very confined linear story of the original Bioshock.

[@MexicanMetlAC]

Agree. That's what I really would have loved to have gotten in the final product. I did enjoy the final product but I really wish the world was more alive.

[@700gsteak]

Instead of remastering Bioshock 1 and 2 they should have spent that money remaking Bioshock Infinite into the game it was meant to be. The 2011 version they showed us.

[@JameZayer]

Irrational Games was already shut down by 2K. Considering all 2K makes now its Another yearly dump of wrestling/sports games and Civ 6 DLC. If it wasn't for GTA V and other games being the great money farm- the publisher would likely go the route of THQ.

[@logandh2]

So, in other words, this already amazing game could've been and was at one point even better. Fuck.

[@Tofuey]

It was because of console limitations

[@passportadventures]

Constants and Variables

[@timce2]

If you go with to multi universe theory there was no console limitations in one universe and in another I don´t exist [Your mind has been blown] :)

[@supermysticsonic2]

owen west Stupidest thing I've read all year thus far.

[@Tofuey]

supermysticsonic2 what? Theres no way an xbox 360 or a ps3 could run what we saw at e3.

[@Helidokter1]

Can someone open a tear so I can get this version of the game?

[@GospodinLLIoTaKe]

Why you so evil? :(

[@P1ay3r7]

TheDizeRTY Because a man chooses; a slave obeys now... OBEY!

[@GospodinLLIoTaKe]

I can't, so... am I man.

[@P1ay3r7]

TheDizeRTY you re no slave, but a parasite!

[@GospodinLLIoTaKe]

oh, not bad at all

[@sallytims6894]

If Ken Levine ever makes another Bioshock game, he needs to stick to an idea. He is notorious for constantly changing everything at the last minute.

[@parasti0]

Bioshock Infinite is a prime example of sticking to an idea. Why do you think all this stuff was removed? Because it didn't fit Levine's vision.

[@sallytims6894]

It's not sticking to an idea if he works on an idea for so long, then scraps it and changes it up completely

[@andreidragosifrim]

he first envisioned the idea...then he scrapped due to hardware limitations or time constraints! i think the 2010/2011 version was the original idea

[@redhood420]

I blame the console life span for being too long. Those generation of consoles were the longest in history. I hope that Ken makes a new triple A game soon. I know he is making an indie game right now.

[@pilouuuu]

Frakking consoles!

[@hitxmark404]

I enjoyed Bioshock Infinite for what it was, but seriously... the original version of it looked SO MUCH BETTER!

[@singami465]

The old Bioshock: Infinite trailers looked and felt like a madman's dream, like something crazed, twisted and terrifying in some way. The actual Bioshock: Infinite felt like a modern shooter where you shoot an army of bullet-sponge enemies in an aesthetically pleasing city.

[@Drag0n092x]

The stupidity of your comment hurts me.

[@singami465]

Dragon0932 More like the logic of my comment hurts your fanboyish butt.

[@joseaca]

if you seriously cant tell the difference between the likes of battlefield/call of duty and bioshock infinite you are dumber than a sack of mentally challenged rocks

[@r3wcifer]

***** The difference is Call of Duty sucks dick.

[@joseaca]

***** wow thats sounds an awful lot like Half-Life 2 or FEAR, i guess thats what happens when you oversimplify things to the point of stupidity

[@DarkSlice96]

damn....parts of the demo versions would've made bioshock: infinite way more interesting and fun to play

[@ashtraydelicacy5773]

Yeah, but we all can't have what we want. Well... unless you wanted to wait 'til 2015 for the most perfect thing ever.

[@ShaDO118k]

EncycolaBro13 A heavy cost. I would pay it gladly.

[@Lufienthedarklord]

EncycolaBro13 If any thing, they would have pofted it to the ps4 and Xbox one which would have been able to handle the open world design, as well as cinimatics.

[@Jaxv3r]

don't forget irrational games is not making bioshock anymore

[@thorrosendahl9747]

I hate when games goes throught that many major changes just like HL2 did...

[@ntrDRUMMER]

3:53 lmao wtf is liz doing

[@GospodinLLIoTaKe]

rollin' rollin' rollin' rollin'

[@ukguy]

from reading the comments it seems I am the only person that actually loved all 3 Bioshock games. They are all great.

[@JohnL-m2l]

I love 1 and Infinite. 2 not so much.. Still a good game though.

[@akilarodrigues7065]

I don't like Infinite. I don't like games that lie in marketing videos, I played this game at the time waiting for these action sequences in the videos to happen.

[@amx9122]

I made one of the best decisions in my life before I transitioned from last gen to current gen, I went to gamestop and bought bio 1,2, infinite with all dlc and I played them all through and I have to say i had one of those moments where you wish it was real and I didn't want it to end, bioshock is a masterpiece and I hope in the future they make a new one with new parallel universes and everything loved it

[@amx9122]

and 2010ns version was so much better but overall it was awesome

[@MegaGoalkeeper13]

well better save up for the remastered collection now lol

[@amx9122]

+MegaGoalkeeper13 I'm good I've seen the reviews and it's not that much of a difference so I don't think I'm missing alot

[@matt5898]

Seems that they sacrificed gameplay for the story

[@onyxtay7246]

Doesn't seem that way to me. The final game was really well done. People get upset over things being a bit smaller, but I'd rather have a game that takes a few hours to complete, and is really good instead of a game that takes 10 hours, and feels padded. I'll just play it again. I haven't beaten it on hard mode, and I still have to figure out the finer details of the story. Sometimes less is more.

[@matt5898]

Avarickan personally i liked the bioshock 1 and 2 gameplay. As i felt i need to use my plasmids to be efficient in taking down enemies. In infinite For the most part i solely used guns and felt the system for the vigors was awkward and it felt like another story based shooter, just my 2 cents.

[@onyxtay7246]

BigBoi 6 I will admit I didn't use vigors very much. Tough at the end I was using the return to sender vigor like no tomorrow. That and shock jockey were pretty much the only vigors I used the whole game. I still felt like the shooting was good though, and the fights were fast enough the didn't get tedious.

[@matt5898]

Avarickan Yeah. Id say the gunplay was very well done in infinite, but it overshadowed the seeming majority of lackluster vigors, with a few exceptions of course.

[@onyxtay7246]

BigBoi 6 Yup. They just weren't as useful as just shooting the enemies. Early on I used devil's kiss on turrets, but once I got the hand cannon I just shot it like twice and it would die. The problem is that vigors need to be based on utility, or CC. When they're based off damage they may as well be guns that are harder to shoot, and make it so you can't stun.

[@finalgaming8053]

The original versions looked so much better. They had the creep and psychotic factor that the originals had.

[@MemoTheNinja]

+FinalGaming Then go play the originals then. Why do you want to play the same thing all over again for the 3rd time? Repetition is boring.

[@finalgaming8053]

MemoTheNinja can't play the originals versions of bioshock infinite if they were never released.

[@AtomicoMacaco]

+MemoTheNinja Would it not be nice to have the elements of the original Bioshocks and Infinite in one single game?

[@thejuanandonly8557]

I agree, it was beautiful yet somehow disturbing... Was a really unique combination

[@SNIPERPRODUCT1ONS]

+MemoTheNinja Because thats what makes a game Bioshock. This creepy city full of off and mentally conflicted people. That's been a staple feel of the world since the originals. When you remove that it just becomes a boring shooting gallery.

[@TristanNicoll]

Ya holy crap. The game looks way better back in 2011

[@billtree52]

The reason our Bioshock was not as good is because the version shown in 2010 CLEARLY comes from the REVENGE OF THE JEDI universe, where George Lucas made it Revenge of the Jedi and not RETURN. Later George died in a car accident and the prequels never happened, preserving the Star Wars legacy. Sadly we live in the RETURN of THE JEDI universe, so we did not get the better version of Bioshock Infinite. Wasn't anyone paying attention!?

[@mrleetmaster1]

Dude... EVERYTHING MAKES SENSE NOW HOLY FUCK ELIZABETH GET THE HELL IN THE VAN AND OPEN THAT TEAR BITCH IMA PLAY THAT VERSION I DONT CARE. IF I GET NOSE BLEEDS I DONT CARE ABOUT BOOKER I JUST WANT TO PLAY THAT VERSION AND JESUS H CHRIST WATCH THE LEGACY OF STAR WARS UNFOLD

[@Swankifyed]

She still opened a tear to a Paris and the movie theater said "Revenge of the Jedi" so that was probably the cooler version tear.

[@OWmyDragonballz]

Jedi don't have revenge though. So the title itself would just be a big plot hole if it was kept that way. That's why he said he changed it.

[@billtree52]

I am a Star Wars nerd, and this was common knowledge a long time ago, but Lucas changed the title because he thought it was "weak" or "not the Jedi way" while others say it was to save a few bucks on poster ink. They actually printed a few hundred with the Revenge title before the movie came out. You can find them on eBay and I have seen them in person. The original title was Revenge of the Jedi. :D

[@badsanta518]

actually, it was originally set to be called Revenge of the Jedi. Lucas later thought revenge was not the Jedi way.

[@allistairbasse2809]

Honestly, I would pay top dollar to play a "Director's Cut" of sorts that shoehorned all the viable deleted content, even if it changed the plot or made it make less sense. The opportunity to explore all the sprawling expanses of Columbia that we didn't get to see is too enticing.

[@Greengulchleaves]

There needs to be damn books for this series. the stories are always incredible

[@MegaSparkster]

There actually is one for the first game!

[@MiniRoovoo]

They do, and I've read it three times. It's lengthy, but that's because it takes you all the way back to when Andrew Ryan was a kid. It takes you through the entire story of Andrew and how rapture was built and then some. Really a good book!

[@crumplycross119]

the part where booker says well nothing ventured nothing ganed he sounds like nick valentine

[@liquid9330]

+dalton torsch yeah i agree, probably the same actor and when the original game was released they had changed the actor.

[@jennasmith8062]

Glad I wasn't the only one who noticed

[@alayna001]

+MR SUBATOMIC You would be correct sir, Stephen Russell was originally cast to play Booker.

[@KermitTheGamer21]

He sounded to me like Sullivan from the Uncharted games

[@Chewio_]

He sound like the guy who voices every nord in skyrim

[@Sterling3dg]

I actually would really like to play an alternate version of bioshock infininte.

[@ChiplockRock]

Burial at Sea

[@kellywilson-lawson1857]

+Fernando Maverick changed nothing

[@s.w.d.s.airsoft6585]

I wish they made a bioshock free roam in both Columbia and rapture :(

[@Zheaniii]

Yes! I've also wanted to play as a Little Sister /Big Sister as well.

[@ItsMe-sp6vb]

+SoulFyre Imagine if u could play as songbird!

[@ps3andrhcp]

Rapture is a lot more open than Infinite.

[@ps3andrhcp]

DukE_HenrY You can't go back to any areas in Infinite and I honestly didn't find it worthwhile to explore too much in Infinite vs 1. 1 is plenty more open.

[@ps3andrhcp]

DukE_HenrY Well, I enjoyed Bioshock 1 and Rapture more. The argument you had initially was about open worldness and Bioshock 1 is much more open. You can go back and see things that you could have missed and makes it worth actually going back. I went back for many collectibles and have seen shit I would've missed if I hadn't gone through the game 10 times already. My first few times I had went back I have seen cool areas and little secrets I hadn't have seen before.

[@FearedByKittens]

For me after playing through Infinite, the most major disappointment was the rail system, or it's lack of freedom in it. I found that they'd pretty much only be used during battles or simply as a means to get to somewhere. The demo looked to have then implemented as a large part of the combat against the enemy AI (as they themselves were using it). The game was still awesome though, but I guess the team thought it would've forced them into non-linearity or an open world which Infinite wasn't aiming towards.

[@olstar18]

I think its more about how much effort it would have taken to both make the world as open as they originally wanted and have as meaningful a storyline as they wanted. Personally I'm glad they focused on story.

[@logansetna316]

I dislike the version of Bioshock Infinite that was shipped. The fact that it could of been so much better, the fact that it could of SURPASSED the original bioshock compared to what we got is: 1. Sad. 2. Dissapointing. 3. Lazy. It wasn't a bad game, it was actually a good game. But so many amazing scenes and elements were scrapped from the end game, we would of LOVED additional scenes and interactions with other characters. I am extremely grateful for the ending we recieved though, but I really would of loved alternate choices. They scrapped so much simply because of budget and rush, but I think that they should of learned from the failure of Bioshock 2 that taking time to make a game PERFECT is much better than rushing the game at the end of its development.

[@NorthernRealmJackal]

Just to play devil's advocate: You don't actually *know* how it would have turned out, although you're welcome to guess. The many scrapped features, scenes and elements *look* cool, but then again, Bioshock Infinite is a game, not a movie - in other words: they may have looked cool, but obviously they didn't *turn out to feel* cool. Otherwise there would've been NO reason to scrap them. As for the "lazy"-complaint, that is just stupid. It's like saying that, say.. rewriting a book 3 times before you're satisfied with it, is "lazy". On the contrary, I think the words you should be looking for are "ambitious" and "self-reflective".

[@TheFlyingPineapple]

I completely disagree, Infinite was far better than either of the two prior game as far as I'm concerned. And as for which version was best, I'd take the release copy any day. The demos released in the three year run up made it all seem just too much like a Hollywood action movie, and Elizabeth's persona was so wrong for someone who had been locked in a tower their whole life and who had only ever interacted with a mechanized bird.

[@ChoooooChoooTrain]

TheFlyingPineapple And the retail version wasn't a big blockbuster, it's full of explosions and big gun fights the only difference is the ones we got were scripted. The Elizabeth we got isn't realistic either, she is outgoing, talkative, friendly and fine with social interactions.

[@StealthMaster86]

***** I greatly enjoyed Infinite, and knowing what could have been is a bit disappointing, but I do agree. It's the PS3 and 360 that couldn't handle the envision that Ken Levine had. Hopefully, when the next one comes out for Next Gen, it will match what Bioshock infinite could have been.

[@captainobvious7174]

Look haha *NOTHING* can surpass Bioshock 1's ultimate skill espescially considering it's time and tech available

[@cubone44]

I'd like to think that in some alternate universe they got this version and our version is only seen in demos. People are complaining that "oh the city is too dark and like the other bioshocks" and "why is Elizabeth just another big breasted bimbo."

[@ps3andrhcp]

I mean, despite the boobs, she was pretty much like the current Elizabeth. Not really a Bimbo. I am sure in some other universe they got that version and were very happy with it.

[@danielcossey9118]

Well there was also a time when she was going to be mute, earlier on in development, if I remember correctly.

[@The8347135]

Sex sells

[@savageproduction186]

The 2010/2011 version of the game looks the best

[@weebleapplesmooooo]

The dynamics of songbird, more open skylines, more reactive citizens and the massively creepy features of the boys of silence should have been kept. Well I'm sad that this version of me didn't get to play an even more awesome game of bioshock infinite in this universe. Have to say that the final version of Elizabeth they created is the most gorgeous though. Very impressed by the amount of detail in this video

[@twentyarms]

I really wish I could play that 2010 version. I also really, really wish more games were going to be made taking place in Rapture. Such an incredible environment, both in terms of gameplay & ambiance. Creeping around corners exploring a sodden art deco urban labyrinth, first as adversary, and then again as you lure enemies through a gauntlet of hacked security systems. One of my favorite Game experiences of all time. Though I'm happy to have the original to replay, I'd kill for an updated version...

[@twentyarms]

***** If you read my full comment, it's not just the gameplay itself, it's the circumstances & ambiance that the gameplay takes place in. I suppose aspects of Bioshock could play like stealth, but I wouldn't characterize it as a stealth game.

[@JCOdrjones]

It seems that every previous version of Bioshock Infinite was better than the final game.

[@IncoRabbit]

No one's gonna say that Booker had a suit in the earlier version? '-'

[@weebweeb3516]

IncoRabbit and his… …Voice… •~•

[@IncoRabbit]

'~' I didn't even notice his voice difference.

[@liampasquet5882]

IncoRabbit Cause in the first gameplay it's not Booker the main character but his name was Charles

[@IncoRabbit]

Charles, god damn it lol

[@liampasquet5882]

IncoRabbit Agree , Charles... what a name

[@XenoAlbedo]

God what I wouldn't give to be able to play the game as it was originally intended to be made.

[@MinorRig]

What I want to know is why did Kevin Lavine not explain why did it change so much? Now When I ask this question, I am referring to the bar scene, the horse dying scene, or the scene in the museum when song bird is looking for booker and elizabeth. Game-play changes are understandable given how making a game will shift and change over time. But Why remove the bar scene entirely? This is really makes you feel like you falling into a madness that you experiance through out the game during the parallel universe missions. Why Remove the White Horse dying scene when that had nothing to do with gameplay mechanics but immersion? That scene was nothing but immerse and can have been added during the fall of Columbia, but instead it was removed entirely. Why Remove the museum scene when that adds another level of immersion to the game with songbird hunting you down, even if they are all cut scenes or scripted. I think these scene would have been great in the final product as actual cut scenes. I can understand why the game shifted from sandbox gameplay and elizabeth combo vigor attacks towards traditional shooting with powers as the game will evolve towards different mechanics through out development but why remove the scenes that had nothing to do with gameplay but immersion? I felt those scenes should have been added not shoe horned or entirely removed from the game. All of these scenes were powerful and gave tons of character development that said more about elizabeth and booker than most scenes in bioshock infinite. Great Game still but cannot hide my disappointment with such decisions.

[@Ntwadumela266]

infinite was brilliant, but taking away that sandbox element is a bit of a sellout to be fair. its still a great game though

[@alexguy2549]

It was going to be like mafia 2, you explore within the levels but a lot of the time there are heavy restrictions.

[@V100BB]

They wouldn't have been able to get it running on current gen hardware, unless then did a GTA "Welcome to Vice City" style cut everytime you went into a new area which would've broke the immersion even further

[@bigdogk6]

i like the sandbox idea but the game would made me explore forever and would slow down the pace of the game. With the way Bioshock tells stories, with Voxiphones and Kinetiscopes, searching for those in a sandbox would be near impossible.

[@siloPIRATE]

V100BB All I have to say to this is. Consoles. holding us back since 95

[@alienisuntverus]

I find it funny that early demos in the game sort of spoil the final game. Like the Vox Populi ending up being villains would have benefitted more if we didn't see them as villains in early versions because it would have been a nice little twist and a good way to illustrate the theme of extremist ideologies being corrupting idea that the bioshock series seems to hold.

[@JediForceClutch]

The unreleased versions look much more interesting and interactive. Seems like it could've been much more grittier.

[@fungusamongus9686]

EverythingMeh that’s because they where scripted.

[@Gladix777]

OK, I will be the one, to break it down. The game we were presented in 2010 / 2011 is something called verticall slice. Its a short part of a game that serves as a proof of concept/quality for the audience. Verticall slices may be a demo version of the game, but more often than not, they are heavilly polished/rendered videos that mimick the gameplay. And because of that these videos will always look better than in games. There is a reason there is a warning that says this is not the finall version of the product and may change drastically. Sure this video looks awesome fun compare to most level of finall bioshock. But maybe it was impossible to make a open worldish game with the AI that reacts on you, themselves and elizabeth differently. To program elizabeth to be a real help in combat and not for combat to be scripted. To program songbird ot be a constant threat in the world etc.. Its not bad as colonial marines, so Iam satisfied with the game.

[@MrHoldenthehat]

even if that was just a demo the end product did not even come close to what they had showed us witch leaves me to think they screwed up and lost there work some how and had to almost start all over . that would be the only reason for how many good ideas they killed for the sake of what seams to be rushing the game to shelves.graphics do not matter if the game play and atmosphere are dry as Phyllas Diller's box .

[@Gladix777]

Aggreed. It would suggest they need to do some drasticall changes.

[@Gladix777]

***** That is the generall understanding. Hoewer in today's day and time it is mostly used as an marketing device. You show how cool concept this is, but in reality you are only doing heavilly "rendered" verticall slice of a game that should hipe you up. But when it actually get in the hands of the game designers. They "maybe" suddenly realise that this, this, this isnt possible. This, have to be remade in order to mach real gameplay, this needs to be little bit more simpler, because publisher isnt sure people will know how to press that extra button. And AI designers are just insisting that programming elisabeth to be reall help in combat on any difficulty while not reducing it to just quick time event is impossible. What is left is finall game that may be roughly the same like demo. Well when you actually look on the demo, it differs from the game in minisqule ways, well aside from obvious.

[@Gladix777]

***** Yeah they did. I really enjoyed it. But what I had the biggest problem was more of a gameplay issues. For example the vigor combo's werent nearly as obvious (at least for me) Things like possesion x fire seemed really dumb to me. And the vigors were more specialized, which paradoxically led to less fun and flexibility. I just used bronco and hand cannon the whole game. And that fucking handyman. In other bioshocks I enjoyed the big daddies. They telegraphed theyr attack, they did reasonable damage, they reacted on damage. But handyman's were just bullet sponges, that were practically imune to vigors and aside from 1 animation they didnt reacted at damage at all. A big fucking bullet sponges that were annying to fight with. But I think elizabeth was the best AI companion that was programmed geniously and her support role made sense. And songbird was reall dissapointement. But aside from that it was a nice game. And I couldnt wish for better story.

[@asdgashash]

When dev goes out of his way to sell Boys of silence as "not your boring old camera", and then they are practically one, you know it ain't a case. When a transportation system connecting different parts of wonder city separate into nonsensical rails between constantly moving isles and useless loops around square arenas, you know something went bad during development. When a power to turn a human into a murderous psychopath and then force him to commit suicide is given away for free, its origin never explained, you know the script is a mess. When a nemesis monster doesn't get any payoff, or explanation, or even a place, a purpose in the narrative, you know you've encountered a clusterfuck of a game.

[@iamfuturetrunks]

No, the version we got sucked compared to what it looked like it was gonna be in the first gameplay trailer for E3. I would gladly play that version over this crap we have today.

[@isirlaughsalot2675]

God you people can never be satisfied. You are the one stopping yourself from enjoying life. Please stop being a cynic and be positive once in a while, otherwise you will die unhappy.

[@joevidya]

The original gameplay trailer had the townsfolk acting drugged out it and dazed was really creepy and I hate how they completely got rid of it.

[@samcookcounty3985]

I have very mixed feelings about the past gameplay compared to the actual game. On the one hand, I don't want to be the guy that says "omg the early gameplay was so much better than the actual game", because I really did enjoy the actual game, but the 2010-2011 gameplay seemed to have so many extra features that I felt would have given the game more replay value.

[@SylentLight]

the original stuff looked so bad. wtf i couldnt even enjoy the game of i was given that

[@w0bbl3r]

Really? You couldn't have enjoyed the game with a lot more options for combat? Like having the stupid girl actually be helpful and a worthy tactical option during a fight, bringing things in from other places or times to help block or kill enemies. And much larger area's But, I knew as soon as I saw the first "gameplay" that it was fake. Because it relied far too much on the player character just happening to be looking in the right place at the right time, and game developers just can't predict that at all.

[@navarre1031]

Wtf are you smoking the 2010-2011 looked way better, shit the combat even shits on the finished heap of shit we got.

[@onlyacomentarynothingspeci2419]

Sam Cook just say it its your right and you are right

[@balloonfantasy3686]

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[@anprimchungus261]

i was especially disappointed about how muck the skyrails were nerfed.

[@VanillaBear9915]

The whole reason I kind of hate Infinite is because of that first full trailer we saw with the time rifts being actually important and how the game seemed more open with that one crow/sniper/balcony scene

[@ericeberhard1752]

I picked this game up a few days ago, I've played both BS 1 & 2 and I have no idea how they could of failed so hard with Infinite. As this video demonstrates the final version was just a shell of the demo which featured almost none of what made that demo so incredible to watch. Anyone who thinks Infinite came anywhere near the greatness of its predecessors needs to lay off the salts.

[@user-zf3fc9tn5k]

How is it that both the 2010 and 2011 reasons look a lot better than the actually game we got both in terms of graphics and gameplay?

[@joshmartling]

This game is a masterpiece even after the changes

[@DaLatinKnight]

Hope Ken Levine keeps delivering, might do more wonders now with a smaller studio

[@Y2Crouch]

Nah, it's a glorified turd. Play once, throw away, forget about it. Subpar graphics, subpar shooting mechanics, grotesque story filled with pseudo-science and idiotic stereotypes. No thanks.

[@joshmartling]

Y2Crouch Go back to playing cod bro, you wouldn't recognize a good game if it smacked you in the face

[@minyu3302]

Yes, It's definitely true that this game is a masterpiece. metacritic's metascore 94 is well fit to bioshock infinite. But this changes is sad.. Maybe most people in this video's comment think like me. Conclusion : Game is a masterpiece, but about this changes..That's too bad. And changed Elizabeth is much more beautiful.

[@Igor19485]

I played it 4 times, and could play it 4 times more, at least.

[@Peaceful_Gojira]

Yeah, a lot of disappointments when I first played the game. It was amazing, don't get me wrong, but the all around game mechanics were diminished slowly...I watched all the development game plays and demos as I waited ever so anxiously, and when I finally bought the game, I was a bit disappointed :/ Much of the cooler, more active game mechanics vanished, and style and graphics for not just Elizabeth, but everyone else diminished too...but mostly Elizabeth. Her face looked more real and moved more accurately, but by the 2013 release, her face became paler, and her lip movements were a bit off. Also, environments changed, which kinda upset me even further (i.e. map sizes, environment responses to explosions and fire, and much more). This all came down, but that doesn't mean it deserves the praise and number of awards it received in 2013.

[@brudel001]

I 100% agree on your points. Poor artwork overhaul from gloomy more lifelike characters to those fallout quality characters. Poor physics on enviroment. Lot of epic moments removed. Not to mention that newer game should always keep the main strengths of older one and improve on them. But here we can only have couple of weapons, no different ammo, no alt fire, half of weapons are same as others with just different look, allmost no places to use vigors cleverly etc. But my biggest dissapointment was that I really expected to be kind of an infiltrator in this living and breathing city, moving back and forth between places, speaking to people for clues, doing sidequests etc. at the same time trying not to act out of character or expose myself etc. Basically I expected the game to be more intelligent, to have more roleplaying elements etc. In reality there was little bit touring around, everything looked pretty and then all the citizens kinda vanished and it all just turned into mindless shooting gallery. Also even though the game is supposed to give a variety what guns or vigors to use then is reality if playing on harder difficulties its only certain combos that work.

[@EvanOfTheDarkness]

It's a shame that they decided to nerf Elizabeth's powers. In the final game she is almost completely useless. Also the story was probably a lot different back then, the whole Multiverse thing is a sorry excuse for a story, that even conflits with Elizabeth's powers.

[@EvanOfTheDarkness]

fhhh Yeah, but that's true for all female NPC ever. Bioshock promised that Elizabeth would be different, but they went back on that. Also, the fact that Booker is actually her dad, makes the whole game setup feel a little incestuous. The creators must have known that, because they tried to minimize any sexual tension between Booker and Elizabeth, to the point, where you are left wondering, why the hell is it that the two main character of the story, show absolutely no interest in each other? I think there was, there had to be, a better story for this game, left forever on the planning board.

[@EvanOfTheDarkness]

fhhh "Every time she says Mr Duwitt though, it gives me a boner." Yeah, exactly that. We play 90% of B.I. playing Booker, under the assumption he and Elizabeth will get together in the end. Elizabeth isn't as over sexualized as Bayonetta, but she is still a fine woman, and obviously a damsel in distress, and booker isn't that old himself, thanks to the time travelling mumbo-jumbo, so that was the obvious expectation. It's just weird to find out at the end of the game, that you were rooting for Booker to bone his own daughter... The creators tried to make their relationship purely platonic, but they also wanted us to somewhat care, and still keep the player in the dark about the whole father-daughter thing. In short it's a mess.

[@CodenameZhidkost]

The 2010 trailer looked really cool, and really dark. There was a certain theme we really didn't get a good look at. Balloons, being one of them, instead of quantum mechanics making the islands float, and the gloomy feel, mixed with the....overall outlay of the city, it had an aesthetic feel to it that the final game didn't really give me. I was really looking forward to the bar scene, especially, with the telekinesis and the cannon and whatnot, and that scene with Saltonstall before using the sky-hook...the entire outlay of the city, in that section, I don't know why, but it appealed to me quite a lot, and didn't quite compare to the final version's feel. Still, I liked the final version, but....I liked the original trailer, too.

[@MrStickman1997]

People call out No Man's Sky for the lying in it's trailers, yet this shit is given excuse after excuse...

[@justinreich2023]

Okay but NMS isn't a good game. At least Infinite turned out good despite not having all those features.

[@clickycal]

Infinite didn't lie though, the game just went through drastic development changes. With NMS they just literally lied about things that were going to be in the game that never were.

[@kace002pumpkinwizard]

MrStickman1997 These were game play demos not trailers. They also didn't promise anything. No Man's sky promised features, and then continued saying the game had certain features even when it didn't after it came out.... plus it was just way too over hyped for its own good

[@CoffeePotGames]

MrStickman1997 this game is actually great. No Man's Sky is awful

[@channel5980]

MrStickman1997 Are you seriously comparing No Man's Sky with BioShock Infinite?

[@steaksoldier]

It's the perfect example of a game that even after it got completely changed in development it still turned out good

[@firuzmajid4780]

Good, but not as good as how it was in the E3 demos and such. And that's a shame.

[@SylentLight]

the released version was a masterpiece idc what you say and the game overall is mindblowing. it wouldnt feel the same with the old features im glad their out

[@Bloggerboy1000]

As a game it was a mediocre shooter. As a story it made barely any sense. Elizabeth opened a tear to Paris when she was locked up, yet her and Booker had to escape Columbia via foot/ship?

[@SylentLight]

1. dont ask too many questions because its a game and if you do that to every game you ALWAYS have a problem & no it was not a mediocre shooter it was one of a kind you 9 year old

[@MrFoniek]

he had a deal that he would sort of kidnap her, and he tricked elizabeth to go on a ship and then fly to i dunno chicago or shit

[@MASJYT]

+CHANLORD Don't ask too many questions?? Wow great argument there. You know is possible to make a sci-fi script were the rules are clear, consistent, and with characters that make sense, all without tripping on your own feet? Just go ask Frank Herbert or Arthur C. Clark, or any of the top sci-fi authors of the last century. I don't see Ken levine among them, do you?

[@nose2814]

Bloggerboy1000 mmmhhhm that's why it got a perfect 10, mediocre my ass I bet you think overwatch is the best shooter this year.

[@Robberbarron27]

Most of the changes were made so that all the textures and materials would fit on consoles limited v-ram.

[@maxkopfraumpoops]

is that so? Where is your source? I am seriously sad and annoyed about all this great lost stuff (PC gamer).

[@SETHthegodofchaos]

What is the source? Well isnt it obvious that hardware limits software? :D

[@Robberbarron27]

See Seth gets it!

[@SETHthegodofchaos]

Thanks :) PS: Nice profil pic :P

[@tomoliver6095]

They really should of kept being able to combine your powers with Elizabeth's. And the original behaviour of the Boys of Silence.

[@crykick9845]

I am so mad about this, it could have been so much better... It seams that a lot of developers do this these days :(

[@mockz2327]

If you are a Game developer, you will know why they do this. And its fine to me.

[@MikeSwansonSpeaks]

I still love the game

[@filopride619]

It's not like they could implement all of this. There are many changes due to new ideas or the beginning phases were just too ambitious and they weren't able to put them in the end. So give them a break.

[@madmartinmarshgiles4763]

jude m why are you defending them? People like you enable this behaviour, you are a part of the problem!

[@Kidastro123]

you should have talked about how booker changed

[@PsyCoCinematics]

So much wasted potential, my favorite moment of the game was hearing "Irene Goodnight" getting louder as we get closer to the event. Shame it happened so early into the game, but there's nothing really good to say after it >.>

[@CranberryLeGoot]

I find that statement hilariously untrue.

[@PsyCoCinematics]

Dewey F. If you enjoyed the game more than me, hats off to ya, but what they promised in footage was not even comparable to what we got in my opinion. Multiple zones connected with railings, potential for areas to float in and then out based on what time it is in game, sheesh, the the portal to the 80s alone had amazing potential that never amounted to anything. The cannon fire crumbling a tower in front of you, the raven dudes that seem to build up to something but just disappear after their encounter, the crazy racism for... reasons? Getting off topic, don't want to dis the game as you enjoy it, but in short, Goodnight Irene was the highlight. Bioshock scene at the end was nice, but just made me wish the writing in Infinite was as good as it was in the original.

[@CranberryLeGoot]

+PsyCoCinematics I can understand that, but I enjoyed how there's times of unsure helplessness, the the BaS dlc was amazing, though that's not what we were discussing. I agree I wish we were able to get a game where the world was clearly messed up and diseased, so even normal postmen were being executed for rebellion, rather than the final plot.

[@PsyCoCinematics]

Dewey F. Yes, the dlc was phenomenal. Of course the cynic in me is saying "well of course, that's what we enjoyed in the first place!" but I'm just glad to see familiar sights and characters like Cohen again, and they did it well. Wasn't cut from the original, wasn't tacked on, was a good production and fair to their customers so I give it a thumbs up even if the base game disappointed me. Seeing the place populated was a nice change too, even if it didn't last long XD

[@CranberryLeGoot]

+PsyCoCinematics Totally agree!

[@marslol6938]

Even though Irrational doesn't exist anymore, Ken should get a team to re-release Infinite updated for the now current gen, have all the dlc with it, and include the playable "demos" we've seen videos of. That would make me very happy indeed!

[@SilverStrumer]

Read that the studios who made Infinite game closed once the final version was released. I guess the changes on the game within 3 years took a toll on the developers..

[@wutevaidc]

bioshock infinite would have been a FAAAR better game if they kept those demo concepts.

[@whineyb.6224]

Exactly

[@john4049]

They could save those concepts for a sequel, and an even better game.

[@theelephantines2128]

Johnatan Lara de Oliveira I don't think that will be for awhile considering Irrational shut down.

[@john4049]

The Elephantines Agreed, mate. I hadn't heard the news when I left the comment. It's such a shame, but they left us a memorable game, nonetheless.

[@wutevaidc]

Johnatan Lara de Oliveira i didnt like infinite :/ surprisingly mediocore

[@djspacebard]

I honestly wasn't a huge fan of Infinite, but those demos would have made me like the game A LOT more.

[@likewise4gaming]

I liked Infinite but there's just something about the underwater city from 1 and 2 that I find better!

[@djspacebard]

likewise4Gaming Agreed. A bit more.... atmospheric, and overall, cool looking.

[@likewise4gaming]

Reece Scully Long Its also the fact that before the 1st two Bioshock games, the underwater city concept has never been done before in gaming as far as I know of! It's original!

[@Z4nnibal]

likewise4Gaming Aquaman: Battle for Atlantis for GameCube 8) The true spiritual forefather of BioShock. No but really, one thing about underwater city is that it's similar to space; "No one can hear you scream". Or additionally, you can't escape. It's a lot more intense than an open city in the sky.

[@AxelOwnz]

It does bum me out that so many cool scenes got cut, especially that 1980's one, but i still really enjoyed and had a great time with Bioshock Infinite, even replaying it now.

[@marty9748]

2011 version remake plz!

[@Treblaine]

I'd rather have had magic than try to explain it with bad science. A problem with skyhooks is it limits the ability of the floating buildings to move relative to each other as the skyrails hold them together. Though the buildings move a bit it never comes up how the city is made up of components that can move laterally and up and down relative to each other, some may crash to the ground or collide with a mountain.

[@PenThatDoesNotWrite]

I think what happened here was Ken sacrificing gameplay elements for the sake of plot and setting. The changes made Elizabeth a more profound character, the setting more believable and all the strange phenomena explainable through science and directly related to the story's core ideas, instead of just randomly spamming whatever was cool. And seeing as it resulted in Bioshock Infinite having one of the greatest stories and settings ever in a game, I wouldn't have it any other way. The combat might've been a lot cooler if they'd stuck with the old ideas, but the greatest things about this game would've been weaker.

[@slvrcobra1337]

So, let me get this straight: You're saying, legitimately saying, that it is 100% okay and completely ethical to absolutely ruin the gameplay of any given videogame, (franchise beloved by millions or not) if it advances the story? (And in this case it doesn't because all it really does is create plot holes.)

[@PenThatDoesNotWrite]

You're exaggerating, like, a lot. The gameplay wasn't ruined, it just wasn't spectacular. It wasn't really a highlight of Infinite anyway, and personally it wasn't in the previous installments either. Bioshock's greatest strength has always been its incredible settings, characters and ideas. And I'm not going to get into an argument on KZbin again, done that too many times, but plot holes? There are quite a few little ones, but for the most part the story uses real science to tie together a diverse narrative and tell an extremely moving story of evil, and of redemption, and it does it amazingly well. They may have made quite a few cutbacks on some extremely ambitious gameplay ideas they had at the start, but that doesn't stop this game from being fantastic. This game is the work of talented individuals working their asses off to create a unique, detailed and moving experience, and it _shows_. So dislike it all you want, but have some respect. Very few developers put this much care into a big-budget game like this, and seeing people hung up on a lack of cleavage and Elizabeth not being a sorceress or something really pisses me off.

[@slvrcobra1337]

Pen That Doesn't Write Gameplay was not mind-blowing in previous Bioshocks, no, but however it was unique. It wasn't only the brilliant story, pacing and characters that made them special, but also the strategic, frantic, and sometimes horrifying combat and survival in-between. Although the multi-dimensional plotline is interesting, it makes some parts of the story seem awfully lazy (like skipping the Vox Rebellion) or contradict themselves (Elizabeth snatches Booker into the future before he could chase Songbird). These are examples of how not only the pacing is affected, but also it seems like interesting gameplay opportunities were missed, like slowly building the Rebellion or chasing Songbird through the stormy skies of Colombia, respectively. There are numerous other instances like this that feel like it was rushed, something was dropped, or was simply a waste of potential. It's not so much that changes were made to a game post-release, that's always expected and is nothing new. It's that nearly every feature or story element present in the pre-release demos was scaled back, significantly altered, or removed entirely, which is unacceptable. Especially when you add the fact that it may have been caused by Ken Levine tossing too many ideas at the designers, causing some to leave before the production deadline. As you can see, this goes much deeper than a character not having huge tits and using "science" instead of magic, so it'd be wise not to make assumptions when you state such a claim.

[@akilarodrigues7065]

@@PenThatDoesNotWrite They sold lies with these fake gameplay videos, I played this game at the time waiting for the moments in the videos and they never happened. And the story also has nothing scientific, Elizabeth loses a finger in another dimension and now she can travel between dimensions? Best quality BS.

[@acryliq]

I hate Infinite's Vigors. Especially the fact that they removed telekinesis. I loved the way Booker controlled the shotgun with his powers and then shoot without even touching it. It could be amazing! 

[@91josh]

But you would never use it!

[@acryliq]

Spruxy Of course I would use it!

[@91josh]

DON'T LIE TO ME ALIXMAN

[@michaelcollier3744]

I'm just sad they cut out the vigor called racism. Racism allows you turn one of your opponents into a either a foreigner or a black person causing the assholes of Colombia to violently kill your enenmy

[@Lufienthedarklord]

Michael Collier there was a vigor like that, were did you hear about it.

[@eternalLocket]

I was really looking forward to that scene with the execution and Elizabeth trying to save the horse. A lot of the time, some of the science/religion stuff flies right over my head. So when Comstock's wife's ghost was in the game I was completely confused. A ghost seemed like a weird addition to the game, unless done in a similar manner to when Jack kept seeing glimpses of the past. Sometimes there wasn't enough of the "better" bad guys. And for me, the Vox Populi story line wasn't integrated well enough. I didn't have that same sense of care and intrigue as I did with the previous Bioshocks. While I liked the beautiful world built around Infinite, I didn't feel any attachment whatsoever to any of the people outside of Elizabeth, Songbird, and to a much lesser extent Comstock and Booker. I also feel like the tears were watered down and under utilized. Even if their purpose was only to be there for Elizabeth to bring in more or different types of weapons, they should have had more scattered around the city to make it worthwhile.

[@paulsnively3377]

OK, I'll go ahead and say it: 1. Thank God they made Elizabeth less busty. First, because the old Liz looked ridiculous. Second, because it makes the reveal when she kills Daisy and puts on her mother's dress more impactful. 2. The old game looked more like a very combat-oriented first-person shooter, and what we played was a story with some pretty satisfying first-person shooter elements. I think that's a huge improvement. 3. I'm glad they chose fewer "Disney's Haunted Mansion on acid" elements and made Lady Comstock more of a character. It made both Lady Comstock and, by that time, Liz more sympathetic, and avoided the Jack-being-let-out-of-a-locked-freezer-by-a-figment-of-his-psychosis problem The Shining (movie) had, where it just couldn't commit to whether ghosts really existed or not. 4. I would have ragequit over a boss battle with Songbird. The three boss battles with Lady Comstock were PLENTY bad enough. Yeah, Lady Comstock was still a pretty thin character; the gobbledygook about her being half Lady Comstock and half Liz's anger was eyeroll-worthy, and some of the story/combat transitions weren't as smooth as I'm sure Irrational would have liked. These are trifling quibbles about the first game I've ever played to make me cry. (And no, I have not played "The Last of Us," and am unlikely to.)

[@onyxtay7246]

Agreed. Both Infinite and Burial at Sea played my heartstrings like no game before.

[@14Yorker14]

BioShock Infinite was a top 5 game for me last gen. The Last of Us is number 1 on that list.

[@paulsnively3377]

I don't mean The Last of Us isn't amazing. I mean my heart is unlikely to be able to take it. 😀

[@14Yorker14]

Paul Snively Haha fair enough. Well, if you ever muster up the courage and enough tissues to play it, I highly suggest that you do. It is a very special experience.

[@rayli7842]

Bioshock Infinite is a perfect game except for fighting Lady Comstock and finding the 3 tears. That part is absolutely horrid!

[@tribornandthestar]

I hope they release a remastered edition of bioshock infinite (and bioshock 1 for that matter) that has the cool stuff that we never got from the 2010-11-12 demos.

[@ZeroAddedSugar]

3:53 Elizabeth's mechanics were definitely downgraded.

[@kakacech]

AnonBritKid lol maybe she didn't like the smaller tits they gave her

[@ZeroAddedSugar]

kaka cech true

[@rapidfireinfinity4926]

Major Improvement: Booker's voice

[@jackparsons5454]

I do like the original voice actor but not in this role

[@takeomasaki1813]

03:52 just look what elizabeth was doing

[@shy9407]

She "needs more time"

[@Peron1-MC]

lol

[@michty730]

Awesome video, great job comparing all of the different version shown!

[@TooCooFoYou]

I feel like early in development, Elizabeth was also to drink the vigors with Booker as you venture through Columbia. If needed too, she would fuse her powers with the ones from the vigors for more stronger attacks. The only downside is that she will get exhausted from their use.

[@rosfell00]

+cesarmanuel51 Imagine crafting combinations of different vigors between the two of them, like for example: trhowing a bunch of crows into a devils kiss trap set by Elizabeth to make them burst into flames or something like that, or combining the undertow with the shock jockey to create an electric whip, that would have been an interesting thing...

[@KittyCandyGirlSarahAlison]

actaully these aren't vigors that Elizabeth uses.. she is much like bornd with them... she actually has Magnet, Melt, Tear, Nature, storm and lightning powers.... and this Elizabeth is still in Bioshock infinite..but you only can see her at the end of the game..

[@TooCooFoYou]

❤SarahAlisonCameron❤ I only remember her creating a tear that went to Tornado Alley. Other than that, she was still the same as the beginning, except she has Songbird now.

[@Ladisn]

Very sad I didn't get to see any of this, would have made the game alot more interesting, interactive and feel like I'm in a proper city and can interact with said city, rather than running through a pre-built path with the sole purpose of gunning down everyone I come across.

[@ParaNoir969]

Elizabeth looked better in the older one

[@ParaNoir969]

The shape of her face was a good fix though on the final. And her hair looks niiiice!

[@TheSkyHazCloudz]

Really? I didn't like Elizabeth in that demo. Her bangs were too high on her forehead, and her face looked kinda morphed to me.

[@ParaNoir969]

Well, yeah that's what I meant. I really didn't like her face, so I agree with you on that one. I meant I liked the physics on her hair, and the way her body was designed in the demo. They toned her down in the final version. But overall, her face does look better in the final version.

[@Hannahtheseal]

The thing is, the demos were entirely what I was looking forward to, and then pretty much nothing was used. Which, I expected, but it was stuff I wanted to see. I would have preferred the reverse, where the current stuff was the demo and vice versa.

[@MexicanMetlAC]

Exactly.We all got excited off of the demos and trailers they showed us. And like they said here, as little as 6 months prior to the games release we saw things that were not at all present in the final version. I just really wished the game was more open like the demo with the skyrail fight sequence. I wanted that to happen so bad.

[@KO_YTB]

The 2010 version was so deep and dark i wish that they could have kept it that way

[@DarkTiger2017]

I like 2010 Bioshock Infinite better than 2013 Bioshock Infinite.

[@AndrewStClair-gp6cg]

If you ignore the fact that none of the footage shown in 2010 was of actual gameplay at all. Ken Levine himself explains that the 10 minute demo that came out back then was only designed to replicate what gameplay may look like. No actual gameplay footage was shown until 2011.

[@TDUShelby]

I gave ol' BInfinite my game of the year for 2013. To this day, I adore it. That said, I can't help but feel like a game I already adore could have been the best one I'd ever played.

[@ThemisticShadow]

TDUShelby same.

[@cakeisalie]

Too bad Irrational Games is no more. I hope 2K gives Bioshock justice.

[@notbobby125]

6:20 Spoiler warning, do not read if you haven't finished the game: I believe the reason for giving the guy a beard was to hide the fact he actually is Booker Dewitt in a reasonable way that doesn't involve plastic surgery (which didn't really exist in 1912, and would be doubtful they could pull it off convincingly even with their reverse engineered technology) to radically change the man's appearance.

[@GhostPlanetFilms]

As much as I like this game, I noticed it just lacks that 4th of July-feel. There are less patriotic themes and feels in it, like the first few trailers had. The only time the game has such feels in the whole "Battleship Bay/Hall of Heroes" levels.

[@slvrcobra1337]

I feel you. They seem to have replaced overzealous Patriotism with religious fanaticism and pointless racism, and replaced magical themes with sci-fi BS.

[@GhostPlanetFilms]

slvrcobra1337 Yeah, I know. For me, though, Elizabeth's powers in the old trailers never seemed like magic to me. It seemed like the classic "genetic re-modifications" thing liek in the first two games.

[@FrightTyGunn]

3:53 that derpy Elizabeth

[@carterf3585]

So funny that people are pissed off at one of the best games ever made because it wasn't what it was advertised as. Personally, I'm happy with what we got, even if there were some things in the original demos that looked really cool

[@bobsdorty4865]

+The Merc With a Mouth I'm guessing a lot of the people pissed wouldn't call it "one of the best games ever made".

[@carterf3585]

True. I guess I was saying it's pretty widely considered to be one of the best games ever made. Ken was definitely a bit too ambitious in the early going, but even scaled back the game is a masterpiece of storytelling

[@RetepAdam]

I think it's widely considered a Top 5 (at the very least Top 10) game of the current decade. So, yeah. The narrative around it is pretty amusing - though I certainly get it.

[@ingusmant]

In 2000 I played Shenmue and I was blown away at the amount of things in that game that I didn't know it had In 2013 I played bioshock infinite and it didn't even have all the stuff it had in a 10min trailer, the AI was crap, the gameplay limited Anyone who says games are getting better needs to stop drinking the koolaid, or stop shilling it....

[@SimonvCleef]

ingusmant Yeah the game is still playable and fun in a way, but if you compare it to what they originally had in 2010 it pretty sucks. Also compared to the first two bioshocks games it's a bit poor. They should've waited for the ps4/xbox one before releasing the game if it was because of limitations that they removed the stuff of the 2010 trailer. But even then it wouldn't be as good as bioshock 1&2. Because most other ideas that were used in bioshock infinite final version were probably also in the things they had in 2010. With the gun upgrades and some other elements of the gameplay being ruined a bit if compared to the original two. But bioshock infinite is still one of the better average games of this gen (7th gen) that's also saying something of this gen.

[@theelephantines2128]

ingusmant True, it stuck to a certain formula I have seen before, even in certain COD games... but it was very straight cut, its only strong points were its story.

[@metalfingazofdoom]

+The Elephantines Funny considering the story is a piece of crap as well

[@ingusmant]

+Cheeki Breeki The story its really a "what a twist!" deal, the first time you play it might seem cool but now that you know the ending the game has literally nothing left to offer. The dlcs were even worse...

[@SimonvCleef]

ingusmant Just play 1&2 those were the best in the serie. I personally prefered the second one the most for the gameplay. I also hope they make a new system shock again.

[@tyleraskelton10]

Is it just me or were the graphics/art style in 2010 superior? I feel like it looks more realistic, while Infinite took on a more cartoon appearance. Don't get me wrong, Infinite and Borderlands 2 etc. pull it off amazingly. But I'm still used to the old Bioshock's where it looked so real and immersed you completely.

[@journeymanX]

the final version was alright,toned down but still great,now if only they'd release the 2010 version as DLC and label it as an alternate dimension

[@JunKurosu]

+journeymanX irrational is dead

[@agnus1975]

when I saw this demo there in the distant past I was frightened by what I saw. everything happening in the game and the bizarre and random things that happened made me super curious about what was happening (the woman cleaning the shop on fire, changing scenery, crazed NPCs, the falling building, all this gave me the creeps). When gives me the final game was really disappointed. Elizabeth looks like a Disney princess, every Madness demo that attracted me disappeared and the game itself is only shots and more shots and when you think you just have to give more and more shots. I did not like it could have been different.

[@Sperith0703]

I think there were supposed to be eight or twelve endings as well, based on your relationship with Elizabeth, how much you used her powers, and whether or not Booker was a good person or not. There was going to be a lot more of that whole "your decisions affect the look of Booker and Elizabeth" and side objectives would have had you picking between the two factions. The game kept getting cancelled and revived, and Levine didn't even want it to have "BioShock" in the title, but the marketting goons wanted those extra sales. I /love/ BioShock Infinite, but even that's just the salvaged parts of a much, much, much more interesting game. I'm sure we'll get something more akin to the original concept in the next couple of years once they pull back together again.

[@NeonDefense385]

I'd love a much darker and creepier bioshock. Cause that's what it has always been. The final Bioshock Infinite is just too beautiful it doesn't even feel that dark

[@Tahkaullus01]

I honestly like the final version they gave us. Though the only thing I will say is I wish we got that Songbird boss fight.