How Boomers View Millennials & Zoomers

[@Uvuv6969]

I think a huge part of it as well is that if everyone’s working harder, the standard becomes much higher as well. Instead of 80% being the standard, it’s now 120% baseline. To distinguish yourself, it’s not just staying overtime and studying outside the workplace… it’s making every waking moment of your life about your work. I know that because I watched my father do it for my entire life, and when he stopped and tried to be a part of my life I could honestly say I never knew him and we never managed to be as tight as me and my mom.

[@B-loud-Gaming]

Damn bro, that hits hard! I hope you are doing well.

[@MrBigcuts36]

Good point. When everyone starts working equally hard, that becomes the new average. So then one must work extra extra hard to distinguish oneself from the rest so that this new person is now considered "working hard".

[@Argonaught0]

@@MrBigcuts36 I don’t think the idea that “120% is the new average” happens “organically.” I think that this kind of work culture gets pushed (sometimes subtly) by employers (and maybe society) as a way to extract effort beyond the scope of an employee’s compensation and often, their job description. Getting colleagues to compete with each other for the same promotion, for example, causing them to have to work beyond what the baseline expectations of a job are, is a sweet deal for the company. They get free labor and barely have to do anything directly to force it from their workers.

[@MrBigcuts36]

@@Argonaught0 Sure that's how it starts at first, but then all companies do the same thing which spreads to society as a whole which then sets the new standard for future generations. So it still sort of happens "organically" in that sense.

[@kimberlylake3477]

As a Boomer(almost) I can tell you,without a doubt,I worked harder and longer than my Kid.She has a much better grip on a work life balance than I ever did. Employers looked down on employees that job hopped,keeping a ruling upper hand on our throats. My Kid will tell a toxic employer to shove it and have a better job,more perks and a fat pay bump by the end of the week. I'm so proud

[@BOSSDONMAN]

High inflation is quite literally the socioeconomic manifestation of this. You work harder and harder but your earnings become worth less and less.

[@Kralnor]

Inflation in the past 30 years has been nowhere near as high as in the 70's and 80's.

[@BOSSDONMAN]

@@Kralnor That's because inflation is heavily massaged and doesn't accurately reflect true COLA.

[@BennyGoId]

"Inflation" is just a buzzword that central banks all around the world use, in order to detract attention from their "domestic monetary policy" and "international monetary policy". You wanna blame anyone/anything for why everything's so goddamn expensive nowadays, it's the United Nations (UN), the World Economic Forum (WEF), the International Monetary Fund (IMF), and the World Bank.

[@UrFriendXD]

@@BOSSDONMAN and now that everyone works harder and has more money, prices go up since they can charge you more and you end up with money that’s worth less.

[@BOSSDONMAN]

@@Kralnor Inflation doesn't actually calculate real CoL

[@Queen_BeesKnees]

I think an issue is the futility isn't just an emotional one. It's that base needs are harder and harder to meet. The bar of what is expected of a person to be told they are worth being paid enough money to afford food and shelter is getting higher and higher. So the stress is getting higher and higher. Like in maslow's hierarchy of needs physiological and safety needs must be met before we can adequately address our emotional needs. An argument about people's stances on minimum wages as how much people should make for 40hrs/week of their time vs. how much it costs for basic necessities can be very telling. And when you're coming home tired from work and being told what you do isn't worth enough to keep you from behing homeless....yeah you check out.

[@babybirdhome]

I always describe it as “the minimum wage needs to be at least high enough for an employee to be able to stay alive between shifts.” This expresses the futility that young people (and even some older people) today face every day very clearly and very succinctly. These boomers forget that in their day, they had _ONE SINGLE BREADWINNER IN THEIR ENTIRE HOUSEHOLD AND THEY ONLY WORKED ONE SINGLE JOB!_ This has become impossible for most people today. They also complain about how “awful” kids today are - well it might have something to do with the fact that two parents can no longer afford to raise their family AND keep their family alive at the same time - usually both parents must work full time. Gee, I wonder who is going to raise those kids when there are no parents at home to raise them??? And the blindness of the boomer generation goes on and on and on - it isn’t limited to just these few items I pulled off the top of the deck here. The WHOLE DECK is like this today! As a Gen X’er, I feel awful for the younger generations today - ya’ll have been _UTTERLY SCREWED_ by a generation or two who had everything they need and refused to look at how they were allowing it to be destroyed because they liked listening to the siren songs of a few decades of leaders oozing with psychopathic charisma and charm. What we’ve done to the younger generations today is not OK.

[@sebastianm.2901]

of course this generation works the most because they have to.. to afford just the little things in life. houses and cars are completely out of reach.

[@Grim_enigma]

Whats a house?

[@goodfortunetoyou]

You just gotta lay off the avocados and coffee. They probably cost like, half a house or something over the next 30 years. Edit: This is sarcasm (just in case)

[@txwering7380]

​@@goodfortunetoyou can confirm. I sold half of my house for avocados and coffee.

[@KanohiVahi]

​​@@goodfortunetoyou This is genuinely the kind of advice an out-of-touch minister in my country said as a response to people, and especially young adults struggling financially and being unhappy about the economic situation. Don't remember if it was exactly avocados (though I'm pretty sure it was) or something equally ridiculous as if everyone is eating avocados daily and that's why they are having a hard time 🤣

[@douwe4254]

@@Grim_enigma Its the concrete cube you rent for twice the money you parents pay for their house.

[@benbean.]

you really just have to work for your own goals and standards. you only get one life as far as we know, and it’s a shame to get burnt out living up to others expectations.

[@BOSSDONMAN]

This is why meditation and spending time alone with your thoughts (away from technology) is so critical.

[@gvagear]

it is not that simple.

[@Phillia_crochet]

Yes, we need to set our ow standards and expectations. It is also true that external ones can be a good starting point or references to set up one's own. It's best if we could balance or reconcile both (that alao means changing or giving up certain aspects of both sides). My problems is that when I set up my own standards, they're usually way too high even compared to normal standards in some areas then some feels like not high enough. I usually follow my own trying my best to balance both out but even my own standards are still way too high, unrealistic and unsustainable long term. 😅

[@Cardboardruna]

The complication is that this isn't possible when you're working 2+ jobs just to avoid homelessness. There is no time to be human. No time to discover who you are. No time to discover passions. Those who somehow avoided this had luck on their side.

[@BOSSDONMAN]

@@Cardboardruna Agreed. Honestly, the only hope for most people is to leave the West after saving up enough.

[@getmotivated1707]

The problem is not just compensation either. Industries have become so complex that many, many people never regularly see the end product or end result/impact of their labour. So youre working hard, pay is not amazing, work life balance is non existent, and on top of all of it, the satisfaction of seeing your own personal impact is just not there for so many. It contributes to making people feel invisible and like they dont matter.

[@YourFriendTomFromMyspace]

Well said!

[@GirtonOramsay]

This is why I liked working as a scientist where you have to learn and do EVERYTHING. Even in large international teams, you see your life's contribution added as a small part of accomplishing the larger goals/visions. Scientists are mostly concerned with the process to get the results and not trying to "maximize" our result outputs like every damn corporation.

[@justanothercarnivore]

I work at a factory making a name brand product. I never see this product being used outside of work. Not once, in my almost nine years at this company, have I seen the brand name outside of work or some advertisement. Edit: One time, I told someone what I do for work, and I had to mention a competitor to give this person a frame of reference for what I do.

[@Zakaker]

I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels this way! I've always believed one of the reasons why work feels so unfulfilling for the newer generations is that many modern jobs lack a sense of purpose beyond earning money. People are dedicating over half of their day to accomplishing nothing that actually matters to them (or to the people around them) besides reaching the quota they need for their paycheck. There's no gratification, moral payoff, or internal satisfaction that makes the effort feel worth it.

[@jackieschesnuk6669]

Watch out. With statements like that ignorant might try and slander you & call you a Marxist. Lol

[@average3970]

i have worked back to back 70 hour weeks for six months now, and i still get called lazy lol

[@SmileyXY]

Yeah, how dare you waste the other 98 hours each week with things like "eating" "sleeping" and "commute".

[@kewoshk]

Why are you here, get back to work XD

[@ploffs]

@@SmileyXY that really put it into perspective how much work 70 hours is

[@alkeryn1700]

i think you should stop tbh

[@emmaobrien1376]

I do about 60 hours a week and have for about 3 to 4 years. I took a few days off this week after breaking a rib and contracting covid (an awful combination). My Gen X mom, who hasn't had a full time job in 25 years and hasn't worked at all for 16 years, was very dissapointed to hear that I took a few days off to recover. The hypocrisy, lack of understanding, and lack of empathy is such a major issue with Boomers and Gem X.

[@toastyskyshroom]

I started working four days a week at my 9-5. I’ll make less I don’t care. I’m autistic and the burn out was so bad. I’d rather feel better and have the energy to take care of myself

[@heyyfirefly]

i am happy for you, glad that helped a bit! it is so sad, that not everyone can do that, i wish i could, but half of my income is needed only to have a roof over my head. it is ridiculous what expectations companies have. :( i have a chronic illness and also neurodivergent, and i cant take basic care of myself, i am so exhausted from the work i am expected to do.. not even getting to the thought of getting to doctors and medical care. i feel like this system cant be held up much longer - both individually, for me, but i think also on a wider spectrum

[@BOSSDONMAN]

"We used to live in a country where you could be a half braindead incompetent who failed out of HS, yet could still find a job that allowed one to buy a house and provide for a family on a single income. Nowadays? We see STEM educated graduates struggling to get jobs and to get by with basic essentials."

[@vincentkingsdale8334]

1) Need to stop outsourcing 2) Need to stop H1B visas from India and China especially....they are taking American jobs

[@BOSSDONMAN]

@@vincentkingsdale8334 That's a very small/insignificant part of the issue. The main issue is housing prices which has been caused by artificial shortages inflating real estate valuations.

[@vincentkingsdale8334]

@@BOSSDONMAN i was only referring to the last sentence of your comment, but i understand what you are saying. I miss the 80s and 90s

[@KyleReeseCel2029]

​@BOSSDONMAN It isn't a single issue that created this problem. There are many ways the people with money can manipulate the market. They all contribute to this outcome.

[@Hallilujahmae]

​@@KyleReeseCel2029yep.

[@aldrichunfaithful3589]

i think another problem is just the fact that the work we're doing (at least for a lot of people) isn't achieving anything of value. most people work some kind of desk job for some company that has 20 competitors, so you're basically spending half your life contributing to a p*ssing contest. if you're successful enough to provide a good life for you and your family, or have the time and money to do fun things before you're too old to enjoy them, then that can provide meaning, but the work itself rarely does. we're supposed to all be working together to help eachother and move society forwards, making everything about money has just stripped the soul out of life at this point

[@Meccarox]

You're completely right

[@eebbaa5560]

i guess that explains why i’m burned out with school after spending the past few years forcing myself to do my schoolwork but not putting enough time, planning, intention, etc. into it and getting bad or average grades. i’ve tried to make a change over the past six months or so, but i can’t find it in myself to establish systems or adhere to a routine that keeps me productive, so i end up not putting the time or effort in to be successful. i feel like i’m spending most of my energy just trying to start, which makes me feel even less confident about my level of knowledge/skill when i do start, which leads me to avoiding my work out of fear of failure, which continues the loop. i can’t wait to go back to school next month 😊

[@Ty-no8hh]

Stranger on the internet, have you considered that you may have ADHD? What you are describing is a tale as old as time for us with ADHD. I, too, get locked in decision paralysis and am unable to act. Also the bit about routines not working for you and a fear of failure creating a self-fulfilling prophecy.

[@socialdeviant13]

I second the ADHD bit. Last November, I went from primary breadwinner to stay-at-home parent so I could go back to school. At work, there was structure. I could build routines around the structure, and being "off" wasn't a complete productivity killer. At home, the only routines were the kids' and my school schedule. No school = no schedule = no routines = no meds = nothing gets done = piles of shame, doomscrolling, and dishes piling while I'm both kicking myself AND unable to do anything about it. I quit work so I could do better by my family, but now I just feel like a leech.

[@SmileyXY]

I second the seconding of the ADHD bit. I have this problem since I was in 7th grade (before that I didn't really need to put any work into school to pass everything, so it was not an issue then). Being scared of failing an exam long enough that I have not learned and then failing it is a very common ADHD problem. Same with the scheduling, I just can't do it.

[@TravisPluss]

I third/fourth the ADHD. I struggled with the same thing & doc diagnosed me with ADHD. The meds were like putting on prescription glasses for the first time.

[@eebbaa5560]

@@Ty-no8hh yeah i’ve considered it :p

[@BOSSDONMAN]

We should have a reality show that swaps the lives between a millennial and a boomer.

[@TheWolfgangGrimmer]

You know those are scripted right...? Ironic as the fact is.

[@ThorOdinson1269]

In 2018, 84% of UK people aged 18-24 have never changed a lightbulb. Let that sink in

[@willgilhespy]

@@ThorOdinson1269What do we do when it sinks in, change a lightbulb ?

[@BOSSDONMAN]

@@ThorOdinson1269 Let it sink in that LED light bulbs are a thing? 🤣🤣

[@average3970]

@@ThorOdinson1269 lightbulbs last years at a time now, who cares

[@NazarZh]

Company is not a family, your boss is not your friend and promotion is a lie. So work for youself, not for company.

[@kewoshk]

Exactly. I’m not gonna do more than needed just because my boss really wants that third summer house.

[@cobalius]

​@@kewoshkleaves out one thing though: what if you actually want to work? artificially hitting the brakes "arccording to your income" is the worst work ethic ever. i'm a person always giving close to 100%, no matter what, well, except i'm ill of course, then i take the time i need. That others do have a serious problem with that is bullshit

[@NazarZh]

@@cobalius You are dumping labor prices and making life miserable for others.

[@Queerlien]

Can we just admit that capitalism is absolutely fucking our mental health over as a society? How is therapy supposed to fix the fundamental issues with our society when we need to survive? It's just so frustrating to see this systematic problem constantly turned into an individual one.

[@__-tz6xx]

It is frustrating that a lot of people around me call 'socialisim' a black & white term to be bad when it should be what happens to aspects of a society as time and technology progresses.

[@YoubyMcYoutuberFace]

Capitalism is the only reason we have a functioning society in the first place. Its all well and good to say it has its problems, which it does, but i dont see anyone offering any realistic or obtainable solutions. Just complaining into the void.

[@JezusisHeer777]

Its not capitalism...... Its corrupt big government in bed with big corporations. Thats called crony capitalism or corporatism.

[@gooseofspooks2500]

Good point!

[@IamHisHeismine]

The perfect example of this happened yesterday between a conversation between me and my mother when I was just looking for comfort when I should’ve realized she’s not a person I can never get that from ever and never have and never will, but for some reason I shared with her that I felt so sad that I’ve worked full-time for 10 years And have barely ever been able to make rent. I haven’t been on a vacation and many years.. I told her I was so sad. I feel like I’m just working and paying for absolutely nothing. She proceeded to tell me her list of problems. It’s not as bad as her problems and blah blah, blah blah blah blah blah blah blah when she goes on multiple vacations has her own house that was gifted to her. I’ve had to move every single year because rent increases every single year. I’ve had to move. I don’t know how many countless times at this point. Seems like all I do is work. I put myself through college by myself. No one helped me. Just really hurt on top of the problem but then again she’s someone who makes everything about herself and doesn’t seem to even view me as a person who deserves anything.

[@rutherfordbhayes3784]

I'm sorry to hear that love... You work so, so hard and I'm sorry she can't put herself aside to see that. I wish you nothing but the best, and hope that the next lottery ticket you buy is a winning one. Much love

[@IamHisHeismine]

@@rutherfordbhayes3784 fortunately I don’t participate in gambling of any form so that’s not gonna happen since you have to play to win

[@SkyFullOfClouds]

I worked so damn hard, 3 jobs at one point. And now I’m working full time as a clinical laboratory scientist and I STILL won’t be able to afford a house where I live. And where I live, in order to afford an average priced home in my state, you need an income of around $180,000, which is already $100,000 more than what I make… and yes I live in one of the most expensive states… Milk=$8. Eggs=$7. Everytime I go to the grocery story I put like 8 things in my cart and it comes out to be $60-80. According to dr google.. I live in the city that spends the most on groceries in the us.. That’s why I’m so so so tired. Because even though I enjoy my job, it feels like it’s all for nothing. WHATS THE POINT.i think that’s why i think so morbidly now. I enjoy the little things in life because maybe I’ll die on my way home from work anyway, so there was no point in worrying. We recently got a 2% raise. Yay for less than a dollar. Wooooo..

[@vincentkingsdale8334]

LA or NYC?

[@debbuchanan]

I’m a boomer and don’t think that way. Younger generations are busting their asses trying to make ends meet.

[@SoulSpectar]

Great example is when I worked at Amazon: We got paid extra for meeting certain percentages and work speeds (without using acronyms). If I Picked 1100 flat items in an hour, that could become the new standard work pace. The month after, I feel really good, I pick 1200. Then that became the new work standard. But then, next month, I go back to my 1100 Pph...and I get flagged for going too slow compared to the warehouse standard. That can become a write up. So to keep my job, I have to go harder even if my body can't do it hourly, so I can keep my paycheck, which means there will be days I can barely function due to physical and mental burnout. And then, on another shift, there's a guy averaging 1110 picks... Instead of being rewarded for doing 100%, we're only rewarded for doing 110%, and then we're EXPECTED, forever, to be 115%

[@RoseRoseRoseRoseRoseRose]

In our country, the boomers often say to the youth when the teenagers dare to speak openly about their negative experiences in their jobs that they should be grateful for having a job & that they are just lazy because _Learning years aren't earning years_ & they had to go through the same bad experiences as teenagers but as a woman in my 30s, I always try to mediate between the two parties because I understand BOTH sides but still think that we need definitely a POSITIVE CHANGE in our job culture because I see MANY unhappy people here on both sides who then mistreat people who become successful in their careers which causes a generation full of burnout patients, no matter if they are successful or not. They also punish people, especially the youth, who complain publicly about this toxiic workers' society. I know here many diligent people who became chronically 51ck after their apprenticeship. They don't want to work anymore due to those negative mindset people 💯 it's saddening & very alarming because that's why we are living in a pretty anxious society right now, economically & psychologically...

[@oliviamoore5328]

Also work places with massive work load and just hamster wheels of tasks, it just feels like there’s no accomplishment or end of the day/week. Not sure what the feeling is but it doesn’t feel like it’s good mentally. At least chopping wood or farm work I can complete, and it’s useful unlike sending dumb emails back and forward ..

[@airlion1205]

As a med student, I want to quit so badly. I have put off so much of my life to get to med school. I dont have much of a social life. I never dated even though I am in my mid twenties, and there is still so much of my life that I havent seen that I want to do. I feel like that I am so far behind in terms of social development. and while it can be rewarding to talk to patients, the school work prevents me from having a life outside medicine, that only amounts to get decent grades since everyone else can remember things easier than I can. I am scared that this lack of life outside medicine is what it will be like as an attending. I know probably not, but there still is that lingering thought with me being in academia and needing to study for big exams or bettering my school applications

[@rutherfordbhayes3784]

As a future grad school applicant, I could not feel your pain more. It truly sucks for us out here.

[@sheolcodemonkey4027]

This is why those boomers and gen x'ers who talk down to me about how I need to grow up, and this is just what being an adult is like, just sound like children play acting at being grown ups who can't get over their "I'm a big boy now" phase enough to realise you actually have no obligation to endure the necessities of life with a smile, and doing so doesn't make you look like a responsible adult, it makes you look like a lemming

[@LadyRenira]

"When you work really hard and have nothing to show for it..." - ADHD in a nutshell

[@kewoshk]

Story of my life

[@cobalius]

​@@kewoshksame. and it's frustrating to be kinda the only with a good work ethic around, literally responsing daily that the work is fun and that one wants to work there, but ultimately being the first one to be fired just 1~3 months later. always.

[@myboy732]

@@cobalius Bro I got fired genuinely for no reason from a job I actually really really liked was there only six months. Meanwhile the previous job I was actively trying to get fired from wouldn’t let me go for a full year!

[@kani-licious]

Thats most people though, they just end up being average

[@Segen_Bell]

"Weak people make hard times, hard times make strong people." I swear our generation is going to be one of the strongest. We are fixing every problem that the older generations made and died off.

[@capnkirk5528]

As a boomer I can 100% agree ... I lived for the sake of my JOB, my WIFE, my CHILD and my PARENT'S EXPECTATIONS. Now I am almost 70, divorced, broke, mildly disabled and almost alone. And according to SOCIETY ... I DID ALL THE "RIGHT" THINGS. IT WASN'T WORTH IT. On the other hand, I live just above the poverty line and watch KZbin and play video games all day.

[@benlane7282]

@@capnkirk5528 are you enjoying playing the video games and freedom though sir? If you are, I’m glad you found your peace.

[@capnkirk5528]

@@benlane7282 To be truly honest I would rather be working, but not for the reason you would think. I spent a LOT of time as second or third level support on some very complex systems (including a large automated machine that I actually wrote ALL the code for - but didn't really get paid). I enjoy solving problems, but more so I enjoyed helping people and actually making their day better and I miss that opportunity. But other than that I'm content most days when the health issues are manageable, and teaching myself dart (a Google programming language) to see if I can get my brain working again. Thank you for the kind thoughts.

[@__-tz6xx]

I watch KZbin and play video games all day and I didn't go thru all that.

[@KyleReeseCel2029]

Well for what it's worth I respect your contributions brother.

[@HR-rh4nu]

Because of the rise of the cost of living, it feels useless and futile if one works hard, but doesn't reap what they sow. The fruits of the labour are so out of reach. I think people got used to getting the bare minimum so now they will give the bare minimum. 💀

[@DeathBlocks]

What you said about the cause of burnout is so damn true. I had a job where I earned a really crap salary, we barely got by and any expense out of the ordinary was a problem. I was constantly stressed, burnt out, no motivation and honestly I did a terrible job for the last while. I even got to the point of wanting to just get out of the industry I am in because I was so unhappy with it. Then about a year ago I got a new job. Decent (not even great, just decent) salary, we can actually get through a month without worrying if we will have money. I work way harder than I ever did at my previous job and feel less mentally tired, I have more responsibilities and am more accountable for problems yet I have less stress. The same kind of problem that used to make me feel ugh how do I deal with this comes up and I think no problem lets do this. I had less time off last year than any time at my previous job and didn't feel I needed that break to "recover". It is not about not wanting to work hard. It is a basic aspect of motivation in anything in life that you are capable of dealing with something much better when there is a reason behind it and the outcome it will lead to.

[@TravisPluss]

I don’t think a lot of people understand this. It’s 10x more difficult to fix problems at work when you have no motivation because you can’t afford a half decent life.

[@elixorvideos]

The thing I hate most about discourse in our society, is that nuance is thoroughly and deliberately ignored by the media.

[@roman9563]

Thank you for leaving informative shorts for us.

[@pixelqube3274]

I started working with the mindset of i will never make the higher ups happy and set smaller goals for myself and make myself happy with the work i achieved. and focus on the work not pleasing others. If i get complaints for not working hard enough they can watch security video and see how hard i work. I'll just focus on myself. Letting go is great.

[@The_Questionaut]

The complaints seem more like they're just choosing to make themselves mad and then projecting that onto you for how you work. Goofy stuff like that doesn’t need anyone’s attention.

[@sharniff5892]

The problem is we have statistical analysis and arrogant people will dismiss statistics and facts any way they can. They will never admit defeat not even a tiny bit.

[@nikaa4237]

Trust me even Genx feel the same way and many of us did not buy a house when they were only $2.

[@bluebutterfly5062]

We work twice as hard to pay half of our bills

[@songofruth]

Ah, man, as a boomer, I've never felt the younger generations were inherently lazy. Society seems to keep expecting me to denigrate anyone who's younger than me.

[@alexincolors7516]

I am 28 years old and I am already tired from working for years. I started to work when I was 17 and I have over 4/5 of the time until now. I already feel pain in parts of my body that make me consider how am I going to leave to the rest of my life after I'm not even reached 30. For the most of that time, I had work days for over 12,13, 14 even 16 hours and I never get to the point where I have enough money to enter university or live by myself bc I'm already at the point where I need to take a break and every time it gets harder to recover, harder to find another job, harder to meet my needs and I am definitely not spending my money ignorantly. More and more rarely I'm spending for pleasure, heck, not even for presents for my family. And I think something needs to change bc I'm definitely not the only one.

[@RovingTroll]

I'm about to turn 32. I've been working since i was 15. I've never been rewarded for my hard work. I've been belittled and treated like a lesser person because i wasnt in the power position. After 17 years of hard work, i have absolutely nothing to show for it. Expenses have gone up faster than i can improve my wages. Jobs pay less than they did last last year, less than they did 5 years ago. Insurance rates exploded so i couldn't afford that, lost my license, got pulled over and charged with a crime for trying to make enough money to get it turned back on. I'm literally a criminal now because i couldn't make enough to pay for the LITERAL essentials.

[@BOSSDONMAN]

The masses are growing increasingly aware to all this, yet the media will gaslight us with,"Why aren't people having kids?!?"

[@Freshrprince]

man i just realized that my entire life changed after my boss pulled me into the office and told me that I wasnt working hard enough, even though i felt like i was putting in 120%.. No wonder i gave up

[@BeastMaster-xr6xy]

I have literally never cared about society as it has done nothing but try and take advantage of me. I grew up in the worst conditions while still both expected to strive for success as well as being told I'm only destined for failure and before I was even 10 years old I stop caring all together, so much so that I almost took my own life. I was able to talk myself out of it by realizing I shouldn't end it over all the terrible people in my life and instead got very angry at the world, mostly my family but it didn't really matter who it was I hated you all, it took many years to finally get back to a place where I can love myself and others but I couldn't care any less about the society we live in as it makes the world much worse place for 90% of the people in it and it needs to change drastically

[@itachi9kitty]

I worked 16 days straight for a huge event for my company, racked up 50 hours comp time ( my total comp time right now is 103 hours) and when I said I need two days off to recover cause I also go extremely sick for 2 of those weeks with the flu, my direct supervisor made me feel like I was doing something bad by asking. Now I am going to do like everyone else, when I want to use comp time I will just call in sick instead of putting in a request.

[@alrightalrightalrightalright]

I checked out for the last 6 months of work, I spent time being a stay at home dad and it was the best 6 months of my life🎈

[@sudhajashu3286]

Dr. K lookin slickkkk ✨🤌🏽

[@JK-vq5me]

I build generators so I guess I got lucky in the fact I know I’m contributing somewhat to society. I also got lucky that I only have a high school education and building just surprisingly comes naturally to me. It pays alright at 25/hr plus benefits. But the repetitiveness of it definitely gets to me sometimes and I can feel it taking a toll on me mentally. I’m scared that the money I make isn’t enough to basically live in this economy. And I already have enough trouble with taking care of myself since I’m Autistic and have ADHD. I feel like my entire life revolves around work and I even feel guilty for having weekends or taking my allowed days off because of what others might perceive as “being lazy” or “not taking the job seriously enough”. Just another thing to add to my anxiety lol. But yeah, even though there’s so many supportive and chill people at my work I keep feeling like something is gonna happen to ruin it all for me. On a lighter note: Apparently I’m on the waiting list to get to go on the new green energy line (hydrogen generators that basically use water and the byproduct is oxygen) so I guess we’ll see how that goes. It pays up to 30/hr supposedly so that’d be nice.

[@Dementia69]

Mentally checking out,spot on my man

[@VideosNoOne]

Also the work is way more demanding. And I am not talking about physically more demanding. But as in 80's if you just did blue collar work, you just showed up and left. Today even trades people have to fill out reports, excel sheets or fill their hours on some sort of software that invoices the customer or tracks their progress.

[@amorton94]

And we should be working less! With technology we are able to be more productive!

[@bobowon5450]

there were predictions 100 years ago that we'd all only work a 20 hour week because the increase in our productivity thanks to technology would be so great.

[@misha_stupidyttookmyname]

I work 25.8 hours per week. Thursday to saturday. If i had to work 5 days a week i wouldn't have done my job for the last 5 years, i would have quit after 2 or 3 years. And needed to completely change career again. But with the 25 hours per week i can see myself doing this job until either my hands can't hold scissors anymore or my eyesight gets too bad to do the job.

[@seekingfinding6204]

Gen X is, as usual, invisible. And we like it like that.

[@Gustmazz]

That thumbnail was really funny, Dr. K.

[@shagrynpoiseen11]

In 2018 and 2019 I was working 60+ hours a week for about 9 months, and sleeping very little as a result. That, plus life being kinda difficult, and I'm still not okay. It wasn't worth it.

[@mojoloop]

Trying to please society is effectively putting yourself into the shoes of Sisyphus.

[@anthonykology1728]

hard work does not mean making a lot money...working smart is better

[@Karmasu_L]

Year over Year work gets more efficient and more things get produced. Yet somehow everything becomes more expensive? Make that make sense.

[@RockingRebelYell]

And worked in our youth if we had parents that parentified us. Boomers egos are wild.

[@jchhere847]

I am considered a boomer and I never agree with the mentality that you just need to work harder. It is simply not true, much harder today for the younger generations much harder for them to survive let alone afford to get anything

[@maddestG1]

You can’t live for the sake of others. Only yourself and what you want to accomplish everything else is a stepping stone. People make it poor to think selfishly like that but its better than not serving yourself your whole life. Nobody wants to live in subservience to a person or a group of people who never really appreciate them and think the world owes them anything.

[@cobalius]

thats untrue. we're social creatures, so we're by design dependent on relationships. if our work lets us stay lonely, then it's not worth it at all. but how many people can work so that they arwnt lonely anymore? it even hits kindergardners and other social genres of jobs. just for oneself is a really bad idea in my eyes. well, unless it includes relationships, friends and stuff

[@maddestG1]

i am mesning its impossible to live for others sakes if yournot putting yourself first

[@kani-licious]

​@@cobalius in the end if you want to help other people you need to learn how to take care of yourself

[@AprilSymoens]

Looks like me when I'm sitting in my office chair.

[@dopernieuxx2700]

Make society happy by making yourself happy first

[@piotrczekaa2925]

The cause of burnout is capitalism

[@BoostedPastime]

Thank you for making this.

[@clindsell6111]

i feel like he is avoiding saying what he knows to be the truth. its not societies expectations its our own and those expectations are completely reasonable.

[@FleyDragon]

It's because we're working and still broke.

[@beetlegoose9808]

Including the solution would be great

[@edekodkredek6539]

i dont know if u noticed, but this short is perfectly looped

[@TheGreatExperimentofLove]

I think it's more that there's a selfishness and self centeredness. People today I think are too focused on themselves. This mentality only carries so far, and leads to an emptiness. The cure is serving, yes ourselves, but importantly our environment, our family, our friends, our community. It is the meaning in their lives that is missing in this kind of fellowship. Too much self centered thought, with an absence of any depth of self knowledge, disconnected from not only themselves, but also from any meaningful service that brings with it a natural joy and love. This combination is deadly.

[@WolfDarkrose]

I have a quote. " when do we stop living for our parents and when do we start living for ourselves? "

[@QuasiGame0]

People are mentally checking out Im about to physically check out

[@anotherfool9278]

I finally got to a job that paid me well. Internship to part time to full time to raises. $4k/month. I wasn’t rich but I was doing well. BUT it happened at the start of Biden’s reign. And the bad economy lead to job cuts so I only had the good pay for 3 years. Point is, when money is taken through taxes and politicians poor decisions on the country, what motivation is left? The reward for working hard doesn’t exist unless it’s your company. So as someone who’s been through a lot of different types of jobs, do enough not to get fired. Don’t burn yourself out like I have. Cuz my work ethic is gone. I have not fully recovered from my burnout.

[@ShadowBroker000]

Is working so hard to get things you want up to the point of not enjoying them when you get them even worth it? Like noone can force you to enjoy something

[@alexvandenheuvel4757]

Even if you work your ass off and sacrifice. Doesn't mean you will get ahead especially if you aren't self employed. I learnt that the hard way. I will never work that hard again unless i own a large piece of the business. Otherwise i work my job description and my pay level, that's it.

[@manleynelson9419]

You don't work more hours. You don't work harder and you don't work smarter

[@jessicaharris1608]

I am reminded of the ancient myth of Syphesis. Syphesis was punished in the afterlife by being forced to roll a boulder up a hill and EVERY SINGLE TIME he got close to the top of the hill it would roll back down ontop of him and he would have to start all over. So if something is syphesian, it is a task that is never finished, it is never done, there is NEVER ANY SATISFACTION OF COMPLETION! I have found the word Syphesian applicable to so much in our modern world. Syphesian can apply to things like laundry and washing dishes, of course, but when it applies on a larger scale.... that is seriously disheartening.

[@phylippezimmermannpaquin2062]

Were catching up with the industrial revolution hustle

[@chrismaxwell1624]

My parents are boomers, they don't say this at all. They point out things like how much wage to house prices were better for them. How plentiful high paying job were. Which boomers are saying people aren't working hard enough. Working hard it go nowhere fast thing. Work smart and be productive, that can be less work and higher reward.

[@TravisPluss]

I think the older generation looks at all of the technology we now have and says “how good we have it”, but is completely unaware how bad the cost of living has gotten. A more comfortable life comes at a cost.

[@blender_wiki]

If you don't produce is not "work" is just an activity. Society push you to have a moltitude of "recreational" activities the generate dissatisfaction.

[@ChadHutsebautfilms]

I’m thinking about finally getting an Apple Watch if they can improve the battery life for the series 10. The normal Apple Watch battery life has always been a deal breaker for me, but I don’t like the look of the Ultra, so I’m hoping the rumours of a series 10 with a larger battery are true.

[@melineeluna]

I can put in lots of hours to solve a problem. If you ask me to move numbers around to please management, I will be ready to leave within the hour.

[@TheArcher101]

I'm at a point where I'm just like "grey hair? Don't care" The standards, the opinions, the manners (or lack thereof) - all of it is at least 20 years out of date, probably closer to 30, so it's just so much easier to blank them and move on like they said nothing

[@jffryh]

And X remains forgotten

[@richardgillette5759]

My grandpa paid $76.45 for his house and he said it’s because he’s a genius and young people are just lazy

[@MetaphoricMinds]

Half my paycheck disappears after taxes and child support. I live off 30k a year now. Unsustainable.

[@redacted5035]

Great point, Vivek!!! 🇺🇸

[@CyberrX2]

😂😂

[@redacted5035]

@@CyberrX2 😏

[@alisha.k.a]

I want to send this to my professor 😂

[@ExoticalT369]

Yep… can confirm! Basically, “the math ain’t math’in”. Which is why I checked out a looong time ago, because all of the effort just isn’t worth it. I’m not a goddamn slave! 👸🏻

[@erickramer3050]

It took this long for the de-unionization of the 1980's to catch up...

[@KamiKomplex504]

You never hear of CEO burnout, those mfers retire at 100 with their billions.

[@trunkthedruid]

Let me sum it up I'm 27 years old a guy The truth is is that people in my generation have pretty much come to the conclusion that we're never going to get to retire unless you end up making a lot of money and being able to actually put something back people in my generation are just getting tired of told that or worthless and that we have no value when in reality we're working our dicks off just to survive and he's not wrong a lot of people are checking out I've started to check out of life you can only work with a s***** system and feed bad stuff going on in politics and in the world in general and then realize just how bad your generation's got it and how bad the next generation is going to have it and eventually you going to just check out or you get fed up with life and say f*** this so I mean the guys on point are system needs to change if we keep going down the road we're going there's just no way that life is going to be the same and 5 or 10 years especially with AI coming around the corner

[@wenus4391]

24:55 xD

[@underpauler9096]

It is not that you work hard. Every hardship can be endured if you see the purpose of it. And the purpose has been robbed. So you literally work for nothing but short term money. And this short termed money you must share with people who want to see you dead. This is what we have to deal here!

[@kani-licious]

Make society happy to pursue your own goals, and then just quit when it doesnt work out

[@n0r8u]

He went and gone said it ❤

[@wingingglobe4095]

The issue with older generations is that they subscribe to the American Dream. The American Dream states that hard work = success. Therefore when people fail it's because they don't work hard. This has lead to a great deal of ignorance thrown at younger people, immigrants, people of color, etc

[@juaecheverria0]

Working more hours is not necessarily true. And it is also true that kids today simply work much easier jobs. These are very common fallacies. We have a much more leisurely time today than we had 200 years ago or so.

[@JeffersonRah]

Some people are not working hard. Some are working way harder than the older generations.

[@tommysalami420]

Realize the people you see not working hard are suffering from burnout. Life is a hell of a lot worse than it was 50 years ago

[@kani-licious]

​@tommysalami420 youve never lived through world wars or depression era

[@tommysalami420]

@@kani-licious "Yet"

[@kani-licious]

@@tommysalami420 just 2 more weeks bro

[@HatoBumpkin]

Boomers don't say y'all

[@owent1166]

So we live to pursue what we find to be personally meaningful through various forms such as contributing our time and energy to helping others etc?

[@Phantombit]

More hours does not mean working harder

[@ooolll8902]

Part of it is also because older generation is jealous of the younger generations for living in a more advanced society having better education or technology or more secured food source etc. Younger generations are not only work harder, but are actually paid less in terms of housing affordability, job security, or retirement plan. So the older generation assumes it must due to the youngs being lazy.

[@Matthew-wt4fr]

I am working hard on making videos for my self-improvement channel, where I want to help people. Nobody really watches my videos, which means I do not meet society's expectations whatsoever. However, I am still doing this because I enjoy doing it. I enjoy working hard this way even if my videos get 0 views. Is that the right way to live your life?

[@cobalius]

since i'm valueing friendships highet than anything else nowadays, no. doesnt meet my expectations, if you dont get the social bits that way.

[@kani-licious]

Thats just how the internet is nowadays. Unless youre lucky with the algorithm your content will always be thrown into the void