How Britain Witnessed A Moral And Cultural Revolution - Peter Hitchens

[@SpiritintheSky.]

Whether or not I agree with him, I always find Mr Hitchens stimulating and worth the time listening to. This occasion is no exception.

[@prizecowproductions]

Mr Or Mrs Sky one of the abilities to keep learning requires listening to what you may or not agree with. 3 points of reference helps a lot in current media moreso with mainstream so my direction in life is to awake in people that it's great to have debate but be aware of the information offered. But to allow some time to put in place a constructive way of getting others to be critical thinkers rather than sheep. Aussie Jeff Moore

[@SpiritintheSky.]

Hello. Mr Moore. Many thanks for your kind and interesting reply. I look forward to more contributions from Mr Hitchens. Best regards, Mr Sky@@prizecowproductions

[@leegregorypeck]

Exactly - he's playing the game. He's an entertainer not a scholor. Declinism is a form of entertainment - people lap it up.

[@windowman929]

What's happening to Britain and Ireland is horrific...

[@HebrewsElevenTwentyFive]

Read the Bible. Secularism is at the root of it all.

[@barryUFF]

@@HebrewsElevenTwentyFive Oh! Ireland did enough bible reading. There was A LOT OF bible reading when the priests were raping the kids from the 1930s until the early 2000s. Thankfully the bible is OUT of Ireland. Priests have stopped abusing the kids.

[@gandydancer9710]

@@HebrewsElevenTwentyFive The Bible is claptrap.

[@70AD-user45]

​​@@gandydancer9710 You're full of claptrap if that's what you think. The eschatology of the Bible happened at exactly the time it was prophecied to happen and many prophecies have been fulfilled with incredible accuracy. ✝️

[@bluegtturbo]

​@@70AD-user45You mean 'you're'. Pray do tell which prophesies?? 😂

[@joanneleeson516]

"Most people don't think, most of the time. You get used to that" Peter Hitchens is right again.

[@benedictcowell6547]

You do not think. You are attitude, not opinion, otherwise you would recognise that Hitchins is ill informed on Science which he confuses with Marxism, confuses licence with Freedom, confuses Freedom with liberty, has not read Marx, has not a good knowledge of Genetics, Demography Culture, the History of Ideas< Their entire confection is bilge, and you would be better enlisted in a course of study than echoing vacuous theories with yet mores vacuous, self satisfied comments. I am a Scientist, I am a cultural Historian, and I was a practising environmentalist and I know that not a little of my time was concerned with fighting ignorance and stupidity of the corporate, inane society that moralises because it is Mentally ill informed such as,, with due respect you and all that listen to Hitchins and confuse his rants with thought>

[@bluechalk2941]

Yet fundementally he did, and does, - despite being fully aware for decades - nothing. He was an active Marxist decades back so has been fully aware at what has unfolded. He whinges in the gaps but he never had the courage to stand in the pass.

[@doreekaplan2589]

Most are cowards in every respect.

[@michaelhughes7458]

What I love about Peter is he’s knowledge on Marxism and politicians in England who are closet Marxist and Peter can see what we can’t see to recognise them.

[@stephenharper5761]

He has almost no knowledge about Marxism at all. He himself was once a Trotskyist and doesn’t understand the difference between Marxism and Trotskyism. And there are no ‘Marxist politicians’.

[@JagdgeschwaderX]

Yeh that's because he was one, I know people like that myself and they are part of the problem and Hutchens as done a good job of atoning for that.

[@timwilliams113]

Like a water diviner......

[@jamesgould7373]

Everything that this man said in this interview is the truth! 7 year ex royal marine. Few tours under my belt. Few postings overseas, Middle East oil/gas jobs. Now work back in the UK since jan2014 in oil/gas and petrochemical. We have been living through a Complete social and economic decline for decades. We’ve seen nothing yet! We’ve lived and punched above our means both economically and militarily for decades as a country. Wake up British people! Get out if you can.

[@Sean-p3o]

Col Macgregor Ret among others is an interesting person to listen to re Anglo American Forever Wars

[@stumccabe]

I don't want people to take your defeatist attitude. Do not leave, do not allow the radical "progressives" to win. With their propaganda they have demoralised us for decades but since the advent of the internet and the ability for ordinary people to communicate with millions of others people are beginning to wake up to the danger our Civilisation is in. We are close to a breakthrough - the signs are all around. Don't give in, don't abandon your country and people, fight, fight, fight (metaphorically).

[@EddieWhitehead-e7z]

I’m out since 1990 after 22 years in the RAF. A great life then. Will never return.🇦🇺🇦🇺🍷

[@Kate-d7t]

To have Justice there must be Eternity! Love that, Mr Hitchens!!

[@privatenoone8911]

True - how can you escape your deeds if you never die?

[@robertwarner-ev7wp]

Nice to listen to a little ray of sunshine like Christopher first thing in the morning.

[@sticksman1979]

“So far so good” is Hitch’s standard opening.

[@paulnorman-mi4jz]

Always love listening to Peter Hitchens.

[@hieronymusbosch9421]

Mr Hitchins is such an intelligent commentator. Won't just accept the premise of the questions asked and has such a broad grasp of history. Thoroughly enjoy listening to him.

[@patrickselden5747]

An intelligent and thought-provoking conversation, gentlemen. Thank you... ☝️😎

[@saa82vik]

well, in the UK more people are put in prison for thoughtcrimes and speechcrimes than in many other autoritarian states, so i´m not sure John is engaging in verbal inflation there, Peter.

[@gardamus]

As KK points out, in one year 400 knocks on the door in Russia, 3000 in UK

[@saa82vik]

@@gardamus indeed. This number should be a counting headline on every daily, every tabloid, the blasted Guardian, the fabians, the fucking post-bloomsburites. Except this state of thing is the ultimate wet dream of every pinko since Virginia Woolf.

[@jjw9641]

He's right about world war 1. But the chain of events it set off and globalisation and the advance of technology in the 20th century could never have been held back

[@Jaapst]

Exactly. Advance in technology and globalization are major factors in why cultures all over the world are diminishing.

[@johnkeane1419]

​@@BevWood-e8g But people don't want traditional things. If they did, they'd defend them. Most people under 70 prefer globalism.

[@viron6734]

It's not globalisation, it's Americanisation.

[@alanbradley9621]

@@viron6734 Do you consider that WW2 was a reason for American invasion of Europe. Coupled with Russian destruction of central Europe. Either way we seem to have come of the worst for it.

[@lenwilkinson672]

Brilliant as usual Peter.

[@DaboooogA]

Great discussion thanks

[@MrMjp58]

The media: Bloomsbury ideas and morals. Very true. The same applies to further and higher education.

[@pamcollins2178]

And the auto has divided families across miles. Grandchildren are not raised near their grandparents. Tragic

[@pinxtownington4645]

Why Multiculturalism? You can't apply it if you go to Saudi so why different rules appyfor countries like UK? Shouldn't people coming here sho follow law of the land instead of British asked to follow laws of third world countries?

[@Orson2u]

Defenistrate Islamist-Labour.

[@miraladak2314]

Could you please explain how the British are asked to follow the laws of third world countries?

[@pinxtownington4645]

@@miraladak2314 if you live in UK and asking mate you must be living in a cave

[@ingridioanahuma6470]

Thank you for this interview!

[@lawLess-fs1qx]

Enoch Powell was the greatest visionary PM we never had.

[@sticksman1979]

He should have a statue.

[@NoDak888]

yes

[@daveminskip5541]

MP not PM

[@vatsmith8759]

@@sticksman1979 Yes, but the wokeists would tear it down the day after it was erected.

[@IcedCub]

​@daveminskip5541 we had him as an MP

[@kenjohnson6326]

Enjoyed hearing a reasonably intelligent discussion that understands the true place of religion in our world and in our lives. Perhaps symptoms of religious decline are sometimes taken as causes by Peter Hitchens, and his views are hardly as original as he seems to believe, but he is insighful and interesting.

[@Daniel-gb3en]

If you do have Peter on again could you discuss the topic of abortion with him? He had a great argument with Dr Adam Rutherford many years ago now that's long forgotten but he made some very good points.

[@ThinkingClass]

OK, roger that. Thanks, Daniel.

[@sararichardson737]

He’s a man why should should anyone care what he thinks. Enough of this nonsense.

[@horacesinclair1861]

That was the best discussion on abortion I've ever heard. It thoroughly changed my perspective on the issue.

[@Daniel-gb3en]

@@horacesinclair1861 It was excellent.

[@ipohtennischannel5482]

Classic Hitchens... "And then there's another controversy, and I'm again derided, and again I turn out to be right."

[@FiveLiver]

If he does say so himself.

[@nickstone3113]

Excellent excellent 👍👍👍👍👍

[@jcfal1708]

What I love about Peter is his unfailing superiority. His conviction that he is right. He has thought about these things, and it is clear he is right. And all lesser beings who do not agree with him are quite obviously lower forms of life. this attitude permeates all he say. He is pickled in unbounded arrogance. He is of course really just a sad old man.

[@edwinflower]

Why listen then?

[@genevievedolan1288]

Yes, he has the upper class British accent and attitude of superiority that colors everything he says. Still I listen once in a while to hear his perspective which I almost never agree with with, but it is always food for thought

[@smythharris2635]

Rather like every left wing academic?😅😅😅

[@smythharris2635]

​@@genevievedolan1288as opposed to what, ebonics?

[@Chris-kz7us]

Angela Rayner living it up in Ibiza is an example of selfisim that Peter talks about

[@alanbradley9621]

Angela Rayner. Oh my aching head.

[@genevievedolan1288]

@@alanbradley9621she took a vacation! So what? Haven’t you ever gone dancing on holiday?

[@smythharris2635]

​@@genevievedolan1288be quiet, yank.

[@jonathanayres6005]

Good conversation

[@S_Edward_Burns_ArtsEditor]

Many thanks to you both for the topics shared here now. Carry on!

[@happychappy7115]

A good listen😊

[@phyllisbiram5163]

I absolutely do agree regarding the madness of cars.

[@kevingiblin4122]

Peter is the man again could listen to him for days keep up the good work pizza for us or follow you are listening to your true honest views most of the time you get it right❤😮😅😊

[@bfree2speak_freely48]

One Peter's more cheerful interviews, no?

[@winbig1]

The conscience stops people from doing real harm.

[@alanbstard4]

there will be a tragic end to this. How long do you expect us to take it?

[@bobdeverell]

I accept most of the points Peter makes. He is on the right side of history. But Peter wonders why he is no longer invited to talk shows and the like any more. Maybe there is a conspiracy to silence him. But maybe there are other reasons. Being 'always' right is not enough. To win over people to your point of view you must be seen to remain a team player in the face of others' illogical views.

[@toneloc-cz2xi]

They obvs don't want him moving the overton window.

[@zeddeka]

Or maybe it's because he's an eccentric oddball who, like his brother, is little more than a clapped out newspaper columnist.

[@toneloc-cz2xi]

@@zeddeka So wich points did u disagree with? Any examples or has he just annoyed you by being right about things u were wrong on?

[@emiliacole9074]

Very good thank you

[@bambosvoutourides3720]

Hitchens is an odd combination of a devout right wing Christian using a marxist historical analysis to understand our current predicament through long historical trends and their roots. But ultimately he is an Augustinian in the sense that there is no point in trying to transform things for the better in a "temporal" world since true salvation is only available when we coss over to the other side.

[@gdr189]

Actively making worse though. Possibility of salvation, just the small matter of the gate.

[@mohammedseraj8043]

Slave morality Peter Hitchens is concerned with the appearance of wisdom and. Not the wisdom itself Second rate intellectuals good with word but shallow

[@westleymanc]

Ultimately an Imperialist, no matter how polished

[@Brynson87]

How can you be worthy of salvation if you do nothing to make this life, this world, better?

[@GhostofFHBradley]

Hitchens manages to be both gloomy and entertaining.

[@Johnconno]

Talking Heads wrote a great song about it all. David Byrne was from Hull.

[@OrwellsHousecat]

"Most people don't think, most of the time " 🎯

[@westleymanc]

The days of trust in England + its elite's, died on 1st July 1916

[@StephenSeabird]

Compounded in 2003 by new generation, and now, with newly concocted wars.

[@Tom-gv2eo]

??? Explain wot hapend on 1 Jul 1916 -- - Middle of W w 1. Are you sure u got correct date. ?

[@adriansebastian9962]

​@Tom-gv2eo First day of the Battle of the Somme, perhaps? It was the largest loss suffered in a single day of battle in British military history. History records 60,000 casualties including 19,000 deaths - an absolute bloodbath.

[@mcrunk1977]

I will buy the car book, my thoughts entirely

[@AlanHamilton-j5i]

I feel the same, Peter, but it could only be our advancing years.

[@timwilliams113]

You think?

[@fastpublish]

It's rare that and empire ends well

[@firelight-vitality]

Peter Hitchens has a column in the Daily Mail. Enough said.

[@OrwellsHousecat]

Says a lot about which other publications wouldn't

[@pinxtownington4645]

Up until 1980-85 daily mail had some fantastic journalists

[@goldenboy06]

The Mail on Sunday actually…different paper.

[@hezkyden]

Why do you think that is all that needs to be said? That comment says more about your own blind prejudice than anything about Peter Hitchens.

[@OrwellsHousecat]

@@hezkyden ✅ Yes, though I think the same about the Guardian and all other main "newspapers" too.

[@ajeet490]

I don't think people are afraid of a Jewish god anymore.

[@Brynson87]

Well, they should be afraid of Almighty God. The more we remove Him from society, the faster we descend down the path to Hell. The evidence is all around us. A Christian restoration amongst the English wouldn't fix everything but it would help enormously in ways that people cannot imagine.

[@billwalton4571]

thats the problem

[@pp-bb6jj]

And people are not afraid of J themselves.

[@briancox9357]

God doesn't exist

[@SalehAthwal99]

@@billwalton4571why should you be scared of God? Is god gonna take the land if I don’t obey god? 😂😂

[@scrooge-mcduck]

I shall greatly miss the Ministry of Silly Walks.

[@johnbaker5565]

UK maybe in a bad way. Then we look around and see most Western countries are as bad if not worse. Is UK in a worse situation than Germany, France, Italy, Spain, Greece, Belgium, Sweden, Netherlands, Canada, USA, Australia, new Zealand.?????????? My guess is some yes, some no

[@thadtuiol1717]

At least in the US they still have a lot of space to set up Orania-style enclaves/territories and a lot of weapons to defend it. The UK OTOH is over, red rover.

[@johnbaker5565]

@@thadtuiol1717 US is large and resource rich, but in a debt spiral. How long can debt keep piling up? I have no idea, but sense tells me it resembles elastic. it will stretch until it no longer does and then????? Stability is a factor also. US society looks even worse than UK and France which are bad.

[@Orson2u]

YES - however, it is difficult to meaningfully rank the alternatives.

[@JagdgeschwaderX]

@@johnbaker5565 Firstly I would say we shouldn't be in a competition of who is worse. Having said that I'll be 52 this year and grew up in the North West of England and the only time that was worse that this was the early 80s after the North of England had been economically devastated and that was partly due to the US going off the gold standard. I have to say that you/we should not compare us to the US which still has a reserve currency and a vast economy, they have huge problems I agree but that's assuming that things don't get worse in the UK which is almost certainly going to happen. I love this country but I'm heartbroken to see how bad it looks and I'm quite sure we're got a way to fall yet before we hit bottom. Regarding the US debt, Britain had the reserve currency once and we managed to rack up a debt to GDP ratio of 240% twice before we went bankrupt and our Empire collapsed so don't write them off. My feeling is the US will do what's good for them and screw the rest of the world, our only hope really is that they take mercy on us because they clearly have no desire to help European countries.

[@johnbaker5565]

@@JagdgeschwaderX We compete for many things and across the West the commonality is the failed political class. people have clear ideas about policy pertaining to mass immigration, no one wants it, but the political class ignore these wishes. You like UK but Blaire, Brown, Cameron, May, Johnson, Truss, Sunak and Starmer have delivered modern UK. Parties that used to serve the working class have been taken over by middle class ideology that hates working class base instincts. Which is why working people everywhere are voting for unsavoury people in Netherlands, Sweden, Germany, France, Italy, Denmark. We were fooled into thinking we had democracy, we have political party democracy which is something different. Who voted for Kamala Harris to be the nominee?

[@bobkent2334]

Timestamps, please.

[@FiveLiver]

In the notes

[@felawes]

PH was spot on about Starmer

[@MegaLochgelly]

What is the name of the BBC programme he talks about? Interviewing people who remember just before WW1.

[@g.p616]

I’m extremely disappointed about Hitchin’s response to Reform…. After years of calling for the Tory Party’s demise, when the opportunity comes along, he rejects it…. He’s now a spent force I fear.🤔

[@toneloc-cz2xi]

The FPTP ssystem is set up so pARTIES LIKE REFORM CAN'T GAIN POWER

[@NineInchTyrone]

He is a bloviating ass

[@tomwilko7841]

I don't see how reform could evolve into anything other than the tory party only slightly more opinionated on immigration, that is no reason to support them, let's face the fact that either they will be assimilated into the current party or defeated/disaffected tories will defect to them over time, aside from immigration they are the same

[@timwilliams113]

Ya don't say?

[@KR-rs3vn]

I'm sure this could be condensed and presented in 15 mins maximum.. instead of being a long slow trundle. I could only manage 10 mins of it and then had to switch off. I'm sure he has some worthwhile points to make but please try to be more succinct. "Time is money"!

[@Sean-p3o]

People like Churchill should be looked at far more carefully Col Macgregor Ret made a good point that the British Aristocracy that built The British State and Empire didn’t do the things that Churchill and co did The fought when it was advantageous when it was necessary and that they didn’t Bankrupt the country like the French did pre Revolution or as we did in 1914-19

[@toneloc-cz2xi]

What about the 4x2s?

[@davidsaunders941]

Some may find this helpful - Riot: (noun) - ''an occasion when a large number of people behave in a noisy, violent, and uncontrolled way in public, often as a protest.'' I understand that the ''official line'' is a gathering of 12 or more people taking part in such behaviour is 'a riot'.

[@CuriousGeorgio59]

Peter can’t help but be disagreeable in every situation

[@Andrew-jb2ib]

Before I watch, does he storm out of this one?

[@OrwellsHousecat]

Though I like hearing from PeeHitch I always disappointed when he doesn't storm out of the interview

[@BernardMorrey]

I recently listened to a podcast which defined the causes of the French revolution. 1. Poverty 2. Social and political upheaval 3. I feeling that the current state need a radical change I think the present U.K. meets those criteria. Lowest turnout in history for a general election. Food banks everywhere. A political class that is despised and an economic system not fit for purpose

[@devonginger]

I disagree with Hitchens; 'Authoritarian' is exactly what the Labour government is.

[@whatsdoin2392]

If you are agnostic you concoct your morality on rules that foster creation including creation of children and material things to support that family. If everyone steals no reason to create. The rule is not arbitrary and it is absolute and human.

[@Homeoftheclan]

The idea of a national cultural identity is an invention, love how England and Britain are interchangeable

[@Oharadanny123abcdefg]

What do you love about it ?

[@davidcarr2216]

Hitchens: It's not like it used to be in the 1950s. Mogg: It's not like it used to be in the 1850s. William Carpenter (flat-Earth theorist): It's not like it used to be in the 1750s. etc, etc, etc

[@strongbow3896]

When did he say that?

[@davidcarr2216]

@@strongbow3896It’s at the heart of everything he has to say . We need to bring back grammar schools and National Service and of course , we need to stop the damn boats.He has no solutions to anything. He’s just another bullshit merchant peddling simplistic solutions. Guess what - there aren’t any.

[@mystrength5640]

The Uk has Truly lost its way, regarding simple things like, Values and Integrity! INCLUDING taking Christian Principles and morals out of Every Aspect of Life!

[@versioncity1]

good, it's about time. Christian morals had about 1000 years in britain to prove itself. lets move on to a more mature way of going about things.

[@Mrdecker1982]

I agree with most of what Peter Hitchin says but he can be snobby especially his comments about the riots. Theirs always a political cause for the disorder We've just witnessed .

[@bingo1319]

If Peter was less of an arrogant snot then perhaps he would be more endearing to us plebs. I believe him.

[@keithsewell8389]

Take a look at Herbert Butterfield: The Whig Interpretation (1931) wit very many reprints.

[@NineInchTyrone]

Hitchens just can’t shut up RIP Christopher

[@Sean-p3o]

We have come from God (continued Tolkien), and inevitably the myths woven by us, though they contain error, will also reflect a splintered fragment of the true light, the eternal truth that is with God. Indeed only by myth-making, only by becoming a 'sub-creator' and inventing stories, can Man aspire to the state of perfection that he knew before the Fall. Our myths may be misguided, but they steer however shakily towards the true harbour, while materialistic 'progress' leads only to a yawning abyss and the Iron Crown of the power of evil.

[@Kate-d7t]

Love your words!!! 👏🫶

[@sebastianvella8992]

Beautiful. Tolkien was not only a genius, but a rarer breed a genius in the service of God.

[@MackerelCat]

I think he has a lot of interesting things to say but I do have to find something uplifting after.

[@AlmostYearly]

Your daughter wants her glasses back.

[@paulvmarks]

The First World War was forced on Britain by Berlin - even the German Ambassador admitted that. So to talk as if the thing depends on whether Haig was a good general (of course he was not) or whether Lloyd-George was a good man (again of course he was not) is nonsense. Mr Hitchens does not address the central matter - he just tries to try change the subject so he can pretend the war was optional. He also confuses the tactics followed in the war (which were very bad) with the cause - totally different things.

[@Orson2u]

Nay-sayers of the Great War Will North face that not fighting it rant that three Monarchical Empires would remain - The Romanov’s in Russia, the Hapsburg in Austria-Hungary, and the Muslim Ottoman Empire. Who would by happy with that today?

[@kamapublishing9949]

Haig was the best available and as good as most. He made mistakes, yes, but also allowed genuine progress. He was also hamstrung by the need to bale out the French from early 1916 until mid 1918.

[@adrianryan5654]

Alas the longer Hitchens goes on the more he seems to ascend the pulpit…

[@VOLightPortal]

He didn't have a breakdown this time.

[@soutteruk1]

Revolution - culture - morality ... did I blink ...?

[@alexmirza5210]

With freedom comes with responsibility and integrity though and people are not there to be bamboozled and led up the garden path by those lacking those qualities. That is what can break trust. Control of information can be used to further agendas as demonstrated in Yes Prime Minister.

[@keithrobert5117]

The closest analogy with modern Britain is Yugoslavia. One wonders what post-Yugoslavia Britain will look like.

[@FiveLiver]

A critical difference is that the Muslims in Yugoslavia were slavs, ours are, for the most part, foreigners.

[@keithrobert5117]

@@FiveLiver yes, they were ex Ottoman but, as you say, were, or became, Slavic. Interestingly, this did not stop them, during the civil war, from promoting their religious identity.

[@TheGreatApostate]

I'm beginning to think Hitchen's job is to lull the British public into a real sense of helplessness. Tell people your country is finished. Tell them there's nothing that can be done. Insult and ridicule anyone who tries. Is it just his arrogance or does he get paid to be the "Anti-Q?"

[@jonah9861]

Atheism is for teenagers.

[@Grutto]

I think that's a gross oversimplification, no?

[@22448824]

Tell you what, you keep your beliefs in wizards, gods and fairies to yourself.

[@versioncity1]

You're sort of correct in my case as it was around secondary school that I realised that believing in a jewish preacher who got himself killed by the Romans and then floated of to some heavenly realm to be with his psychopathic & genocidal Canaanite Father God was probably not actually true.

[@vandammejam]

Speak for yourself .

[@MarmiteMangoMachine]

Correct! When puberty strikes, the brain grows and the ability to reason flowers. That is why many teenagers reject the religious poison that was forced into them as children. Unfortunately, although an animal may instinctively vomit out the substance responsible for its illness, the damage is often too severe to recover from. It is not mere coincidence that the most fanatical advocates of totalitarian ideologies (Marx, Engels, Lenin, Trotsky, Stalin, Mussolini, Hitler, etc.) had religious upbringings.

[@community-first]

When I was 20, it was said we were 10 years behind America. Now we are 10 minutes. We need to be in sync with Europe not immoral and corrupt America.

[@terryannmaes5538]

As an American I agree somewhat but we have a lot of good people here. Unfortunately we are the home of evil Hollywood and vile politicians. A lot of us reject this cultural shift.

[@mcihs2]

We very much desire to emulate America, unfortunately that is a dying Empire, and Europe is just a group of squabbling dead countries……

[@benhamilton5692]

The interviewers ability leaved a lot to be desired. No challenge or argument on religion and theft. Religious dogma needed to prevent theft? - The Natural Laws still exists and can not be changed also does not require belief.

[@Raymond-d2l7n]

Does anyone know what Peter's views are on NATO's proxy war in Ukraine? I don't think I have ever heard him express his views on this.

[@FiveLiver]

He isn't very smart about geopolitics and would probably agree with you.

[@Raymond-d2l7n]

@@FiveLiver Agree with me about what?

[@lizbosh7545]

I like Hitchins thoughts but he's so arrogant and dismissive. You had to rephrase a question 3 times, and he still didn't answer it. He knew full well what you were trying to say. I only watched half the interview.

[@donkeychan491]

Probably it takes a somewhat truculent, abrasive personality to withstand the level of disdain and hatred that comes from expressing nonconformist views.

[@ngaiomalcolm2041]

If the pagan Roman empire could turn Christian why can't we?

[@ALavin-en1kr]

Christianity should survive; even some atheists prefer it seeing it as a benign and civilizing influence in today’s world. The dark age was something else; keeping the dark occult out of the mainstream on the rise to the age of reason was draconian.

[@littleones-yeahh]

its jewish.

[@toneloc-cz2xi]

@@littleones-yeahh 'Jewish' meaning what exactly? Pasty Euros LARPing or ?

[@littleones-yeahh]

@@toneloc-cz2xi have you noticed its only christian countries that are beset by the j's?

[@toneloc-cz2xi]

@@littleones-yeahh yep the 2 x 2 s hate our faith and want revenge for kicking them out in their coin clipping days

[@StephenTetlow-qm9of]

Tolerance and compassion and human kindness were not invented by Christians. Moral codes emanate from human instinct and are expressed in religion, not the other way round. There were just as many 'good' people before Christianity.

[@FiveLiver]

Do you know that the Golden Rule is not to be found in islam?

[@peterstephenson9538]

I think we had to lose the Christ Impulse in our world in order that we discover Christ again out of freedom and independence of thought and feeling. It is hard, but it had to happen. In PARZIVAL, the medieval epic concerning the Holy Grail, the hero wanders for years until one day, on a Good Friday, he finds his way to a wise and holy man, and Parzival does not even know it is Good Friday. He tells Trevrizent that he has not been to confession for 7 years, which is, in the 13thC context, extraordinary shocking. Parzival finds his way back up the ladder to the light of the Grail. The point here is that, this great visionary piece of literature represents subtle truths concerning the future path of human beings and their evolutionary experience of the cosmic impulse implanted into the Earth at the Crucifixion.

[@IainFrame]

The king of the black pill.

[@versioncity1]

Peter is interesting to listen to inasmuch as he is a reasonable representation of what might be termed the traditional english middle class. He demonstrates the lack of critical awareness outside his own class to take on other viewpoints and simply assumes his position is correct out of being 'well-read & educated'; but with his usual pomposity quickly reveals his narrow minded stand point. It is no surprise that he has now settled comfortably into his job with the Daily Mail. They compliment each other perfectly.

[@civiliseddisobedience3096]

And what is the correct position?

[@versioncity1]

@@civiliseddisobedience3096 There isn't one.

[@MAX-tw3qz]

It's his astonishment that we didn't listen to him and act accordingly that cracks me up.

[@versioncity1]

@@MAX-tw3qz not quite a messiah complex, but edging in that direction.....

[@toneloc-cz2xi]

@@versioncity1 TBF he was right about 'covid', immig and a LOT of oyher things so only natural to get a bit of a big head when 999.9% of the popln are ALWAYS sooooo wrong about everything

[@ALavin-en1kr]

Like they say the sins of the fathers are visited on the sons.

[@Ricky-oi3wv]

If that were true we'd be having our society built for us, and having our society lifted out of its pre bronze age, or it's dark ages. We are experiencing the reverse. If you feel our empire is something we deserve to be punished for, consider turning off the BBC and going and learning about that empire.

[@MAX-tw3qz]

Cogito ergo sum. Judt don't assume it's a universal.

[@JDMI-hn5ee]

or being a rebel

[@lenwilkinson672]

WTF HAS ABORTION TO DO WITH THE DEBATE.ABSOLUTELY SOD ALL.

[@specialized500]

I suppose he has to fill up his book with something who buys a sensible book ?

[@adrianryan5654]

What does it have to do with Churchill’s religious beliefs or lack thereof, the quote did not mention belief in our religion, it said belief in ourselves and our story. Peter seems to have read belief in religion into this but this is irrelevant to belief in a nation, although of course religion was used by leaders to bind people together into belief in the nation via anointment by gods but this doesn’t have to be so. Perhaps belief that the alternative (e.g. a totalitarian one World Government) would be far far worse is enough. And if it isn’t then why are the powers that be (and I disagree that the forces are too powerful to resist, this is just defeatism) seeking so ardently to undermine Western people’s belief in their identity via undermining our stories, our history, which the patently are? Perhaps all it takes to defeat the forces of evil (and they are evil) is simply to refuse to fall for their propaganda. I would have far more respect for Hitchens and his ilk of they got off the sidelines and got into the game… As Hitchens brought up Orwell a revisit tom1984 is well advised in these times. “The most effective way to destroy people is to deny and obliterate their own understanding of their history.” ― George Orwell

[@fillyfresh]

Unbearable. He has to be in a league of 1. It's called Satanism Peter. Man of God my arsenal.

[@ImpKnt80]

By "moral" and "cultural", you actually mean "satanic" and "communist", correct?

[@adrianryan5654]

Yet another dumb religious allusion, “in the absence of the Christian religion”. Religion predates Christianity and many societies used religion as Christianity was and is used and still needed “the games”…

[@mcihs2]

Christianity is the reason modern liberal democracies exist, but like all things in life it is temporary. We are returning to the natural order, paganism, feudalism, low energy society…..the future looks very much like the past……

[@timwilliams113]

Am I the only one here who thinks Hitchens is a crank?

[@FiveLiver]

He is deeply knowledgeable about the ideas and ways of the left, and is useful for that at least.

[@timwilliams113]

@FiveLiver Is he? He thinks Starmer is a marxist. Surely that is enough said about how well-informed he is?

[@FiveLiver]

@@timwilliams113 Yes it confirms that he knows what he's talking about.

[@timwilliams113]

​@FiveLiver Starmer is an extreme lefty? Any evidence for this? It can't be his actions

[@williamsnowden8186]

Avowed controversialists, let alone latterday 'prophets', can't exactly be the easiest people to interview. So, perhaps your passivity was astute.

[@toneloc-cz2xi]

Why do you think he's a 'controversialist"? Any examples or has he just annoyed you by being right about things u were wrong on?

[@williamsnowden8186]

As you're clearly given to presumption and value judgements, I'll leave you to work that out for yourself.

[@toneloc-cz2xi]

@@williamsnowden8186 SO Why do you think he's a 'controversialist"? Any examples or has he just annoyed you by being right about things u were wrong on?