How Calico Helical-Fed Magazines Work

[@TheMouseGunner]

If you are wondering what program I use for the creation of this video, please check the description. It should be included on every video in this series, if not let me know.

[@Guessnought]

I always scratched my head about the inner workings of pp-19 bizon's weird magazine. While I don't have any pictures or videos on that, this video gives me a good idea of how the magazine works, which is all I need. Thanks.

[@n-gaming4056]

I’m late on commenting but when I was smaller I thought they would pour bullets into it and it would be like pebbles in a bottle

[@timestamptramp6192]

@@n-gaming4056 wont lie, I thought that's how it worked and when a friend asked me I looked it up because I wasnt sure, I'm glad I did lol.

[@daftmi9hty327]

The pp-16 works a liddle differently from this this mag has a crank while the pp-16 turns while you load the mag (I believe that's how the modern version works)

[@ribbonator]

I always thought it shoots out cylinders that break into small bullets and I always thought that the magazine was a water bottles

[@MyShortsAreWet_]

that pfp

[@dth-2783]

"With big magazine capacity comes heavy responsabilities" -Uncle Ben, probably

[@tripaloski_6971]

Hahaha

[@killerkoala1918]

Is it true he used this gun to cook his rice?

[@KevinCrosbySeattle]

Thank you for setting me straight on this fun idea I've been interested in for years. More recently, I've wondered about an epoxy injection rail gun system to spray shrapnel with capacities of 1000 rounds per compressed constituent ingredient to the projectile.

[@larrymoran_THE_CODGER]

I would like to see all, "how it works videos", done this way. I've been interested in Military/Naval/weapons topics for over six decades, and never heard of the helical magazines before. Oddly, I Googled the subject, after reading a manual for a First Person Shooter PC game. Live and learn. My compliments to MouseGunner for an excellent video, and for having very good verbal skills.👍👍

[@EuropiumGadolinium]

The reason it never caught on was primarily the AWB. They're back in business actually selling the whole firearms again now (after slowly rebuilding operations for several years just offering spare parts and MAC conversion kits). In the time between getting forced out of business by that sedition, and their comeback, Russia, China, and North Korea all adopted Calico-inspired (and admittedly/expectedly refined) helical mag designs for their armed forces.

[@LeroyGrider]

The owner was not as focused on the impending cali assault weapons ban, instead of building a shit ton of mags he built a shit ton of receivers not realizing that the manufacturer of the mags is what would be banned. The first ban was skirted by other manufacturers by simply changing the model number of the weapon, he had thousands of marked receivers that were specifically banned. And more importantly no mags to go with them

[@julesgrill2490]

Very impressive interactive 3D images!

[@J7Handle]

So, to my eyes, there doesn't actually seem to be a problem with the magazine. The problem seems to be how far the magazine has to turn in order for the bolt to catch the next round out of the magazine. I think reliability issues would be solved if the bolt was delayed a bit during the forward motion to give the magazine time to react. Also, lube on the inside of the magazine to reduce friction would probably help.

[@wawan8759]

Now i can fight a corrupt priest for my holy grail

[@demandred1957]

I found this super interesting because I own both the M100 pistol, And the 9mm Carbine. My pistol mag is busted from being over wound, but after watching this I think I can fix it! Great Video!

[@gmodiscool14]

did u fix it?

[@demandred1957]

@@gmodiscool14 Actually.. I forgot about it because of life etc.. I guess i should dig it out of the gun safe and try to fix it now.

[@gmodiscool14]

@@demandred1957 lol, cool. good luck with it

[@tonygotts199]

The gun ws a great concept and could be great. It suffering from fequent jams

[@iflyjets8166]

This is a very good display and I greatly appreciate it. The only thing u can criticize is that the rounds are actually double stacked in the magazine

[@davidrobinson2323]

The round enters the barrel at such an angle, no wonder this thing jams.

[@demandred1957]

Yeah, mine jam's all the time. I have never got a dry clip run yet.

[@user-ij1mr9ex3s]

Mark Cole the thing must be heavy as hell too with a full mag

[@jameswalker6787]

Is this intended to be hip fired? Or is there a stock that extends off? 100 rounds without a stock and thats gonna destroy your shoulder

[@Meaty_Aberration]

It's not a very heavy or powerful gun

[@NOF4C3]

I'll choose P90 at anytime of the day

[@gideonthangcin8179]

I'd choose a banana, and I'd still win lelelele

[@NOF4C3]

Max Otto well in all bullpup design P90 is the simpliest I liked and wished there was a P90 rifle. And the design is still modern maybe needs some small improvements

[@NOF4C3]

iz da French Pillsbury dough boy HARAMBE is that you !?😲😲

[@NOF4C3]

iz da French Pillsbury dough boy Its in the atomic state it might go off

[@Hello-hl4kq]

Your name should be Heisenbergov then

[@felipecardoza5829]

What advantage could this possibly confer? That corn cob takes up a lot of space that could otherwise be used for-wait for it-more bullets. An old fashioned drum mag, although bulky, really packs in a lot of bullets in little space.

[@swiftbuddy8878]

My assumption has always been that they pop open the top like a tennis ball container and just dump in a bunch of rounds😂

[@8b8b8b]

This is from the game "World of Guns: Gun Disassembly"

[@DavesGuitarChannel]

Why do you show an Echo & the Bunnymen record when you play the song by Kevin MacLeod?

[@Treblaine]

Q: How does a Calico helical feed work? A: not very well

[@edi9892]

Treblaine AFAIK, the main problem is that the bolt doesn't go back far enough forcing you to reactivate it after each shot....

[@killaproject844]

@@edi9892 yes because 22 doesn't cause enough gas blowback

[@fetusman2248]

Forgotten weapons shot 9mm and it was pretty reliable

[@Davex-tp5sf]

I’ve got a M950 pistol and a carbine I love them fun to shoot if you keep the mag tensioned they don’t jam as much as people think.

[@OZTutoh]

So the magazine functions better if it is consistently adjusted manually, such as during combat. I'm not putting what you said down, it's just it sounds like a real fun civilian firearm.

[@Davex-tp5sf]

OZTutoh I believe the manual says to wined them 10 turns I don’t count the turns and you might give it a couple turns while shooting.....it’s a good gun not sure I’d want to use it on a battlefield but there have been times I’ve put the 950 and 100 round mag in the center counsel of my tuck when crazy things where happening. It’s a lot of rounds in a small package.

[@daftmi9hty327]

Isn't the pp-16 (bizon) a "better" modern version of this design

[@unintentionallydramatic]

What was the intended purpose? Just compactness?

[@nightwing6925]

How do you reload the mag but if you can’t it would be good for fighting resistance fighters

[@idsfxtm5759]

P90 : *Im the most fastest sub machine gun in the world* Calico : *Are you sure about that?*

[@toaster9922]

P90: well at least I work

[@sirmrmcnuggets1608]

Is this gun chambered in .22LR or am i seeing things?

[@hagrid419]

He mentioned it at the start of the video.

[@shallowcinema8359]

Powermops no he said so

[@arthur1543]

Powermops yes it is chambered in 22lr. It is a fun and very accurate rifle.

[@evon0va268]

Many full auto firearms are chambered in .22lr, they are small and can be shot with low recoil, popular guns like the notorious Uzi sub machine gun

[@user-ve8ry1xw8v]

Logan Brewer Uzi is a 9mm

[@umbrel]

Hi, if you take requests, can you make a post on how bottom ejection shotguns work? (Remington 17/Ithaca m37, or eve semi auto Remington 105CTi). Thanks

[@MrCarGuy]

umbrel It would be whatever World of Guns has available.

[@rahdar2008]

which software are you using, please

[@starhusky797]

Why the fuck does it look like a weapon from Splatoon, minus the ink-tank-part holy shit!

[@RichterBelmont2235]

I first saw this gun in a videogames: Resident Evil Code Veronica. One of the more strangely designed gun for me.

[@velocisstarrle4480]

What software you use?

[@ScoutSniper3124]

The angle and feed resemble that of a Ruger 10/22. Which makes sense, since the Ruger 10/22 is pretty much the Gold Standard for reliable .22 LR rifles.

[@christianb4053]

This is a helical style mag. The 10/22 comes with a rotary style mag.

[@st2hallock]

Are you using the Gun Disassembly 2 game for your vids?

[@gautamtyagi4001]

what app are you useing

[@sjcm711]

Gautam Tyagi Pornhub

[@playeah1]

horny india app

[@dacchy1645]

Darude-sandstorm.apk

[@TrankWithAnR]

What about belt-fed firearms?

[@theking8356]

What software is this?

[@josephvinculado6285]

it has the same fuction as pp19 bizon's mag

[@nugget9541]

Wait, isn't there a 9mm version?

[@wolfynautious7415]

There is a use for them. The N. Korean army is equipped with AK-74 rifles with helical magazines that hold 250 7.62 rounds under the barrel. This means that their rifles weigh about 20 lb and are front heavy by about 6 lb. When they run out of ammunition it will take about 10 min. to reload unless they carry two or three mags in their packs which adds 26 - 39 lbs. Plus - they jam a lot. In other words, this is a great magazine for OUR forces if the N. Koreans use them. :D

[@2010ngojo]

Wolfy Nautious Chances are, they will only carry one mag.

[@sroosh.behzadi]

if you use 9mm maybe you can get rid of the spring , by adding some gear

[@Mercules77]

This video should be titled how calico helical fed mags dont work.

[@arthur1543]

Demolition J I have owned a calico m100 for over 25 years and have never had any trouble with the rifle or the magazine

[@Mercules77]

Arthur im glad that was your experience. It hasnt been mine or anyone ive knowns experience. Typically 9mm mags are tye ones with problems i think

[@demandred1957]

I have never ran a clip dry yet without it jamming at least once. Someday when i feel like wasting a lot of money, I may try to run a clip dry on my 9mm carbine model, but for the .22 it's a bust.

[@arthur1543]

Demolition J I use good ammo and I occasionally disassemble and clean the mag. I agree that it does take a lllooonnnggg time to load the mag but, where else can you shoot a 100 rounds without reloading?

[@Davex-ln6rc]

They work fine for me maybe they need instructions for the mentally challenged....

[@ldwithrow08]

Actually the appearance of the weapon in Sci-Fi films is not all that impractical. The .22lr has long been considered a good round for use in future spacecraft. If you have a high rate of fire, it is deadly, but less likely to blow a hole in your own spacecraft. The low recoil would be good in a zero gravity environment, and if fired in a vacuum, the bullet would retain full velocity and energy pretty much forever or until it ran into something. I understand it was a reliable weapon, but like the author says, a bear to load. Not practical at all for military or police.

[@hb4lwade1]

Lawrence Withrow unreliable*

[@elbandido9887]

Lawrence Withrow they need one for full auto 22.cal magnum be it's a hell of a lot more charge the smaller the shot and more powdered casing the more penetration these could be magnified into explosive shots they do and can incinerate shrapnel on impact... intratec 22. magnum 32 rnd a new evolution into firearms self defense initiative

[@elbandido9887]

they do not make eagle claw air Marshalls for 22s these are neighborly friendly ammunition that do not penetrate sheet rock without expanding they are used in military air command undercover survey on commercial air flights you can buy them in stores eagle claw is my choice to keep me and my neighbor safe and thanks to Trump who will abide by the second amendment of the USA

[@nickabel8279]

Very interesting. Would be incredible if it didn't eject rounds but fed them back into the auger so when you're done there's 100 empty rounds in it.

[@shallowcinema8359]

Looks like it jams a lot

[@bloodking73]

Gecko it jams more often than a single shot when firing multiple shots

[@carlbruschnigjr1757]

It only jams when you pull the trigger.

[@power_of_Christ_God]

@@carlbruschnigjr1757 lol

[@KingAverage-pn9us]

How long did it take to make your animated drawing.

[@joselopez-ru2ds]

It's actually a gun sim called gun world

[@makervideo1656]

Which movie is it??

[@graybeard7408]

Spaceballs

[@arjitboro4650]

great design

[@mrrandomtastic4118]

how would you load that

[@demandred1957]

it's hellish. I've loaded mine like 4 times. The gun is gathering dust in my closet now because of the mag.

[@rkhyden1950]

Pertty presentation. But if you're in a shoot out do you really want something that can get you killed?

[@therookie4901]

Time Alter DOUBLE ACCEL

[@bullet996]

FaTe ZeRo

[@thelaughinghyenas7962]

MouseGunner, 100 rounds of .22 LR weighs about 12 ounces. That's as much as 28 rounds of 9x19 or 28 rounds of 5.56x45 or fourteen rounds of .45 ACP. That's as much as the weight of the ammo in one AR15 magazine or one mag for a Glock 21 or less than the weight of ammo in two Glock 17's. It isn't the weight of the ammunition that is the problem with the Calico's helical magazine.

[@TheMouseGunner]

When I was talking about the disadvantages, I was talking about Calico helical-fed magazines in general. I realize the possibility of confusion due to the model I showcased being .22 LR , but I was more talking about the 9 mm versions when I was discussing issues of weight. For some of their designs a fully loaded magazine more than doubled the weight of the gun unloaded.

[@thelaughinghyenas7962]

MouseGunner, The more than doubling is true for the Calico Liberty III pistol but that would be true of about any 9mm pistol if you add the weight of 100 rounds of 9x19. It isn't an inherent fault of a helical magazine. I firmly believe that if someone actually put the time and money into it most of the issues of a helical magazine could be solved, making it an effective package for something like a huge capacity submachine gun.

[@chet0958]

Great graphics

[@TacoCat-13]

If it did work perfectly I feel like it would need a counter weight

[@videojockeysword]

I get the part about the magazines not " being "disposable"; but only the military can waste like that. But then...how long would it take to load ANY 100-round mag...without a "speed loader" (which they make). Face it: this is "a Sci-Fi toy" that DOES work just fine. EVERYONE also fails to mention how COMPACT this weapon is...

[@busterbrown6181]

This is a good gun!

[@desijatt5912]

make a video on,how "mini gun" work

[@tripaloski_6971]

It's just a machine gun with a lot of barrels

[@likeclockwork6473]

Probably would work better without using 22lr. We don't use rimmed cartridges anymore in semi automatics because they feed and eject horrible

[@Keimotorider]

You forgot to show the part where you need to clear the jammed rounds

[@MidnightRobotics]

Looks like the rebel DH-17 blaster from Star Wars

[@MG-ks1qg]

Looks like a Ruger 10-22 mag. Only longer.

[@clifflee5404]

This looks surprisingly similar to the north Korean weapons. They are also using a helical magazine.

[@2010ngojo]

Cliff Lee Not a new concept, but I doubt those Korean AKs are actually reliable like this piece of crap.

[@nickabel8279]

If u buy this gun for anything but range you might as well buy a few... Mags? Cylinders?

[@jzero90921]

Imagine having to load this mag

[@thanhson7528]

Nice gun.

[@ForgottenRebel77]

got to hold one of these monstrosities at the gun shop the other week. its ugly as fuck. but it was kinda cool to see one in person.

[@IceAge20017]

I like this gun.

[@Sova_Poliyrnaiy...]

Интересно, какой калибр у этой хрени? Уж больно патроны похожи на 22LR...

[@tiggytheimpaler5483]

I just got an add for num noms lol

[@parkerthefloridian817]

So it's basically the futuristic version of the .22lr 180

[@TheDesertwalker]

Thank you for saying "cartridge" and not "bullet".

[@TheSilliestGoober69]

Now i know how the bizon works

[@tedyang5516]

Just use the pp90m1

[@tonypalmentera7752]

Mags are double stacked inside with rounds, not single stacked...that's the only difference with the real one that I noticed.

[@garrett9550]

When I saw the title I said "simple... they don't."

[@KomalSharma-ts2fq]

Wish I could use one just to protect my home

[@nikolaishriver7922]

The calico is a neat concept, poorly executed. The American-180 is where it’s at if you want a handheld .22lr bullet hose. Amazing rifle. Look them up

[@sololimpo553]

Where you come from, how many rounds does a single police officer need?

[@chevyboyforlife4234]

So basically if you want to go shoot you just need to buy like five or six of these and have them all loaded

[@railfanningstuff8333]

pain in da ass to reload magazine manually

[@justicetaylor2695]

KillZone gave the Helgast the Helix magazine

[@theshadowgamwr2976]

PP Bizon big brother.

[@PugilistCactus]

Why would we do a presentation on a massive pos?

[@dobdoa3691]

Doesn't North Korea use these magazines?

[@shadowfax5113a]

Calico guns suck,unless you want a crappy bolt action gun which is supposed to be semi or fully,I don't care what you say,they suck.

[@kingfobbit399]

One dent in the outside tube and that gun will fail to feed.

[@OZTutoh]

Good point

[@NibNa5ty]

i was expecting it to jam...

[@iosonoi.7132]

Lol this videos should be named, how their helical magazine doesn’t work

[@GeriIndustrialDesignerPrivate]

looks for a movie

[@butchcassidy5440]

You just carry several drums with you

[@elbandido9887]

mini Gatling it needs improvement

[@Ramnight]

looks like '22 rounds

[@jonhdoe1378]

это так просто как булавка. смысл было видео делать?

[@nogisonoko5409]

So is this how my gun works?

[@richardshepard7475]

Emiya Kiritsugu sorry for your buy. Calico is rated worse made gun of the modern era.

[@jefferyschirm4103]

Guaranteed to 🎸

[@GoogleAids]

I keep hearing you say vbucks. Might have been vlip

[@drbrown2402]

Didn't catch on because they were banned a couple years after they were introduced to the public...its picky without the right ammo....the black tips are best... And 5 or 10 mags , your good for days.....

[@djohnson3678]

thought you was gonna let the dam thing fire, all you done was chat ( not that it was a bad thing...but still) and only let one bullet fly. . . . . >.> good vlog tho. put up a vlog to where the gun is firing, at regular speed , and slow motion ... want to see how everything works,. tk u

[@789295]

Works like a 10-22 magazine on steroids!

[@MickeyD2012]

You mean how they don't?

[@BigWheel.]

The real catch isn't how they work, It's how they don't work Ever At all.