Why Drum Magazines are a Bad Idea

[@jackofmanytrades4396]

It is hard to deny that a 1921 Thompson with a big ol' drum magazine has a cool factor that is off the charts.

[@theisgood0]

I believe you......but my tommy gun don’t. 😂

[@Dasding619]

Same with the PPSH it's not the same without the drum

[@theisgood0]

@@Dasding619 The Russian SMG I love that thing. Can’t believe that was a standard infantry weapon of the Red Army! Insane the gun had an RPM of 900-1000 RPM.

[@andrewe.8321]

Totally agree. However gangsters rarely carried more than one mag. Cool as hell though

[@obbybro]

Suomi KP has the same thing.

[@Valin9275]

I remember when the Nerf Raider came out and had the first ever Nerf drum mag. It held 35 rounds and weighed more than the gun itself. This thing not only failed to feed, it REFUSED to feed. The follower got stuck after each shot and the thing was basically unusable. So a pretty accurate representation of Hasbro's part

[@Razor-gx2dq]

I had that drum some time ago, I hated it and opted for stick mags instead, my favorite stick mags are probably the 23 rd mag.

[@yapflipthegrunt4687]

@@Razor-gx2dq 23rd? You mean 22rd?

[@Razor-gx2dq]

@@yapflipthegrunt4687 Naw a company called Worker makes 23rd mags

[@Mike-mt4ln]

The 25rd drum fixed most of the issues of the 35

[@BallstinkBaron]

I never had issues with my 35rd mags but I was also very particular about maintaining the quality of darts

[@jmrocket03]

How to make drum magazines easier to carry: 1) Design to double as belt buckles. 2) Give to Texans.

[@Foxie_Mischief]

I’m Texan, and I approve!

[@curtisshields1063]

From Texas...this might only work outside the cities, unless the Houston Livestock Show & Rodeo is on, in which case you'd have a shit-ton of them in one place!

[@Jrez]

Does that mean you have to drop your pants when you reload?

[@teaser6089]

@@Jrez Yes, it will show how manly you are

[@johncox2865]

@@Jrez no. It means you have to pull the trigger when you pee.

[@GunDrummer]

Yep found all this out the hard way

[@centurio5270]

Yeah, didn't see drum mags at recent videos, what a coincidence xd

[@eazybandz4146]

Whys that? Just asking, I have a drum for a cz scorpion and never shot it but looks and feels reliable

[@brett1511]

@@eazybandz4146 there usually just harder to load and you have to be sure to put the right spring pressure on them

[@FortunaFavetFortibus38K]

@@eazybandz4146 the springs aren't as reliable and they jam much more often than a regular 20-30rd magazine. Especially AK drums.

[@Glockcity187]

@@FortunaFavetFortibus38K thank I was just about to buy one for my glock

[@timnotaro4286]

Did anyone else feel like he was having a talk with us? Like we disappointed him and he was giving us our last warning?

[@heshworksbetter2777]

This! This is Golden!! Lulz

[@killerfredde]

Not quite last warning but a good "telling off"

[@orfeo793]

This video makes me feel like I'm in a principal or managers office honestly lmao

[@timnotaro4286]

Okay, I won't buy anymore drum mags.... promise.

[@olaruud9366]

“They hated Jesus because he told them the truth.”

[@sevensixtwothirtynine3020]

drum mags -2 reliability -1 agility +10 charisma

[@YukitoOnline]

+20 Intimidation

[@DaddyExcy]

-20 mobility

[@sethgagliano316]

+20 target

[@WraithChornobyl]

Bonus Stat: You now have a portable chair to recover stamina on in the Zone, or to sit and drink your radiation poisoning curing vodka.

[@santiagoorgeira9142]

+50 mafia

[@peter4210]

A good wardrum can bring good moral to the men. Never underestimate the musicians job in a company

[@fadhli179]

King Peter please, it was a different drums XD

[@primuspilusfellatus6501]

@@fadhli179 whoooosh

[@TakahashiRyosuke13137]

But what if instead of playing a round drum, you give him a peruvian box.

[@BeingFireRetardant]

I know we are all joking here, but African Djembe's were used specifically as signaling devices during battle. Ingenious. Like a horn, whistle, bugle, conch, and shofar. Directing troop movements through music. Moar Dakka!!!

[@overcastandhaze]

Two snare drums and a symbol fall out of a tree.

[@LUR1FAX]

Drums seem to be used best by having one drum magazine loaded into the gun, and using regular box mags for your reloads. For example a D60 Magpul drum with 30 round PMAGs as reloads.

[@justastickofbutter5547]

When you're out of ammo in the drum, where do you put it, you can't just throw it away, they are expensive.

[@taylorbennion3706]

@@justastickofbutter5547 a dump pouch would be a good option until you've got time to throw it in a pack, or come back and pick it up when you win.... or don't

[@justsomecrazymexican]

@@justastickofbutter5547 If you need more than a drum magazine in a single self defense situation I don’t even wanna know who your making enemies with

[@LUR1FAX]

@@justastickofbutter5547 That's a good point. I was really just saying if you are going to use a drum in the first place, it seems best to have just one drum magazine already loaded into the gun, and then have box magazines as reloads.

[@LUR1FAX]

@@justsomecrazymexican I was thinking more in either a competition setting or actual combat.

[@VexChoccyMilk]

Correct answer is to start out with a drum, then reloads with stick mags.

[@darthremy1802]

That's me at the range, I have one drum preloaded and once it empties it spends the rest of the trip in my range bag.

[@Nooziterp1]

Which is what the soviets did with the ppsh 41. Each one came with a 71 round drum and when this was expended it was replaced with one of the 35 round boxes the soldier carried. So he didn't have to carry awkward drums anyway.

[@TheProverbialHater]

Joe Mama Yeah, split the difference... Makes sense.

[@OsirusHandle]

You still gotta carry the magazine after its used...

[@jameshartford8786]

Ayy

[@theindooroutdoorsman]

"Why didn't the BAR have a 50 round drum?" Have these people ever carried hundreds of rounds of 30-06 Springfield??? That would be *stupid* heavy.

[@sielentbrat4005]

I am Heavy Weapons Guy... and this is my weapon. Some people think they can outsmart me. Maybe... maybe. I've yet to meet one that can outsmart bullet.

[@borismuller86]

The Indoor Outdoorsman exactly. The BAR is already a pretty damn heavy weapon to lug around. Over 20lbs loaded.

[@mildlyupset6011]

Its smart because you could drop it on the enemies head if you don't have time to reload

[@Mighty-Quinn]

That was my first thought when he brought up a 50 round drum for the BAR.

[@Endoptic]

Mags with equal capacity would actually be harder to carry... In real combat, you need the ammo, which would weigh the same itself. I recall them changing the squad weapon of the marines. The marines at the time didn't care the mags were individually light. They complained about all the low capacity mags they'd have to deal with and repeatedly stop to reload. They mostly complained about how dead people would be, both from completely running out of ammo sooner and failing to cover even themselves while always reloading before that lovely doom.

[@edgarssults6976]

Drum magazines only make sense in computer games where you don't have to physically carry the ammo yourself.

[@steventhompson399]

Practically for both loading ammo in them and carrying them the stick mags are better; aesthetically the drum mags are just cool - on Thompson submachine gun drum mags look fucking awesome... at a range showing off drum is better; in combat stick is better

[@HawkOfGP]

@@ts757arse man, loading them really is a pain too. Much worse than a stick mag if you have to keep doing it for a few hours, can say from experience.

[@danielgoodman3578]

HAMMER SPACE

[@Jester4460]

Ya because I don't wanna carry 600 7.62 mags And 2 c4 with a rpg and 4 rpgs

[@matthewsears2930]

Worked for the bank robbers in California's 44 minute stand off.

[@jimeditorial]

My WW2 vet father carried both versions of Thompson and told me that the drum magazine was jam prone and made the gun too heavy. And pointless, because he said that it was almost always fired semi auto. Even with a Sten later, he said they were expected to fire three shot bursts.

[@keithhagler502]

And he is very right.

[@patrickshaw8595]

@@keithhagler502 No Truth Better Than Old Truth.

[@MobyTheMerpup1852]

@@patrickshaw8595Well there is a Drum that can hold 1000 to over 2000 Rounds

[@apollo1573]

POV: your high school principle is telling you why your shooting plan wouldn’t have worked

[@pettysaltblock9358]

Oh shit, I read this at school, laughed, and now everyone's looking at me

[@blaydv2242]

Apollo lmaoooooo

[@DavidLLambertmobile]

Hes laying it out straight. Some people just cant except the truth... the 5.56mm C mag(100rd) seemed + but I'm not aware if that's even produced, 2020..

[@karlmarx9877]

You would've gotten through at least a hundred kids though

[@Jiggleton]

lmfao

[@rocketgruntmason3269]

Everyone turns their head when I walk in with a sphere mag

[@Pete3Heat]

🤣😂🤣😂🤣

[@Corvus__]

LOL they're like "that ain't gonna roll."

[@sergiolongoria6637]

Water gun

[@afluffyfox6802]

Yeah same but I was at school

[@Allan_aka_RocKITEman]

I figured somebody would get _'ROUND_ to those eventually...😊

[@DanielSan1776]

The solution is obviously: *Triangle Mags*

[@gashelio8747]

Let's make a special magazine just for gamers,1 round per mag

[@MausOfTheHouse]

I will patent that, peasants! See you from my future yacht! jk

[@Wickedonezz]

@@gashelio8747 that's just having no mag but a glocked gun

[@Rikard_Nilsson]

the Solution is a paintball gun. But instead of paint it’s filled with nerve gas.

[@sernoddicusthegallant6986]

*Laughs in Octagonal mag master race*

[@CReed-kf7eo]

RPK Gunners in Chechnya would carry One Drum and Five Extended Mags. The drum would be their starter. The Zaslon units would do the same for their Alpha AK’s.

[@matthew_natividad]

Do they store the drum mag in their backpack after?

[@MagnumLoadedTractor]

Also you get 75 rounds instead of 100

[@hansheden]

50 rounds of 30-06 on a BAR? Like that thing isn't heavy enough as it is.

[@sirromanov3038]

Recoil removers.

[@jeramyw]

Maybe on the new HCAR.

[@matchesburn]

Weight of a BAR? ~19 pounds. Weight of a single .30-06 cartridge? 0.921oz for non-AP M2 loads x 50 = 46.05oz = 2.8lbs Weight of the drum = ??? - depends on what it's made out of and how, and could vary wildly, but I doubt it'd be more than 4lbs, tops. ...Not that much weight added to it, honestly. Take off the terrible and heavy bipod and it might even out, LOL.

[@jeramyw]

@@matchesburn Weight of HCAR: 12 pounds

[@matchesburn]

@@jeramyw If that were available in 1942 or in 1918, sure.

[@Bilbosilius_Zwackelbaggins]

"Drum Magazines are a Bad Idea" MG36: "Alright, double-drums it is"

[@bezahltersystemtroll5055]

🙂

[@marschma]

Not an issue as it melts before you can fire more than 30 rounds. (It wasnt adopted by anyone btw, only a couple prototypes ever made)

[@y2knowledge]

You joined in 2007 cool!

[@dave_sic1365]

Ich feier deinen Namen

[@startedtech]

O

[@jarhocordero885]

I accidentally picked up a land mine I thought it was my drum magazine

[@seansahara724]

Ah yes, 7,55 mm explosive round

[@abk4202020]

I always think about that finish guy with mines all over him

[@noahmcabee2534]

@@abk4202020 he was a boss wasnt he (nods head aggressively in agreement)

[@bdawgrise6961]

Well I thought it was weird I was shooting explosive rounds out of my AK 😂

[@PhazonSouffle]

I guess you're typing with your toes now

[@demilung]

Yeah, I remember old stories from WWII veterans about the PPSh drum magazines. Their nominal capacity was 71 round but it was impossible to load it to that number - the resistance of the spring became incredibly hard. If I recall the story correctly, no soldier in the field ever could get it to above 60, but even that was a record. Loading it to above 50% apparently felt like something is going to break - possibly your fingers.

[@SeanDahle]

Yep hence why they usually loaded them to 65 rounds

[@eggabacon]

Imagine if a soldier actually loaded it all the way to 71, then a second later the spring just gave up and shot every single round out of the magazine and into the air

[@Timur-1300]

Not to mention that it was not recommended to put in more than 60 rounds, in order to avoid jamming the feed mechanism. Since the spring proved to be too powerful for the feed cycle

[@la-zrider2749]

For the MP40/I the real answer is actually: "Drums, despite being complicated, were too simple for the german engeneers. So they came out with a weirder, more complicared and less effective idea"

[@gunnerr8476]

Put 50 mm mortar in that list as well.

[@dickimusmaximus9086]

No doubt the Germans are a very bright, well disciplined and efficient people. This is shown in the MG42, a semi automatic rifle.

[@silverstormrifleworks7080]

Best Comment :D

[@maxwchambers]

Adam Lowe I feel like there’s something I missing to this joke...

[@Queue3612]

referencing the double magazine well that made the gun weaker, heavier and only marginally improved reload speed/fire capacity?

[@agrameroldoctane_66]

When we were using RPK in action in 90's, we fit drums for start, but the aditional rounds we carried were all in standard AK "bananas".

[@lycan6432]

RPKs in the 90s, I'm guessing you fought against the chetnik goons in Yugoslav wars?

[@agrameroldoctane_66]

@@lycan6432 👍

[@inyoface5456]

@@agrameroldoctane_66 was it maybe in Zagora on the source of Cikola river 🤣🤣🤣 Edit: Huh nobody got it

[@lk6912]

This makes the most sense to me. Have a high capacity magazine to start off, and fall back to your lower capacity stick mags after thats used up.

[@derrickschroepfer9173]

@@lk6912 no need to convolute the logistics. The military already has a hard enough time as it is on supply chains, extra components are just unnecessary.

[@nolan20expert]

As a percussionist, I feel attacked

[@ez0526]

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[@crusadermemes8067]

*Laughs in brass*

[@afluffyfox6802]

Let me guess cause the title didn't clarify Proceeds to hide Thompson drummag in drum to shoot up my school bullies JK MAN DONT CALL THE POLICE!

[@ericplaysbass]

Oh man, where did I leave my drummer joke book at?

[@alexgeorge7539]

Hello fellow percussionist!

[@championknife]

During the war in Chechnya, Russian scouts complained that when moving in silence, the drum with cartridges for the RPD machine gun makes a lot of noise, the cartridges beat against the walls of the drum. This unmasks the scouts.

[@weeeeelp]

This kills the crab

[@jonfosaaen6781]

I think this was the exact British complaint about the Thompson smg, during the 'Phony War' before the Battle of France in WW2.

[@juzniewiem]

They were still using rpds?

[@v_Shami]

forgive me if im being dumb, but why were scouts carrying RPDs?

[@janpostma5381]

Cuz they go behind enemy lines and cause chaos or relay info about enemy movement. So the need alot of firepower if spotted. So a drum holding 50 to 100 rounds is alot of firepower to escape

[@revermen3580]

Once you have unloaded your thompson's magazine upon the enemy, eject and grasp your drum magazine and end them rightly.

[@bjmccann1]

Skallagrim? Is that you?

[@Breadman-k6d]

I'd prefer a pommel any day

[@SuperDeadzombeh]

@@Breadman-k6da pommel is superior to a drum mag but you fight with weapons you have not the ones you want

[@MISTERGUY1218]

Throw it like a frisbee

[@thetrueindiz]

@@SuperDeadzombeh But Santa promised...

[@brandonparson8821]

Title: "Why drum magazines are a bad idea." Me: *Sad AA 12 noises*

[@tilmanr.3299]

Did they remove drumform AA12? That takes every advantage of that shotgun...

[@HQwalkingdead]

I’d argue drums for shotguns can better be justified like clearing rooms, police use, riot control whatever

[@Chris-jw8vm]

@@HQwalkingdead Yeah. Logic might say this or that but only thing I'd be more scared of in cqb range would be a damn flamethrower. Even severely nerfed versions in videogames are grossly OP.

[@helium-379]

Still not that practical.

[@bugme143]

That's it. We need a belt-fed AA-12!

[@kaiquebustamante3091]

You shoud have done this monologue while loading a drum mag It would be so cool and self explaining

[@matchesburn]

[Takes out 75rd 7.62x39 AK drum magazine] [Pops latches on back cover] [Quickly pack in rounds] [Close back cover] [Wind for a few seconds] [Is done before Ian makes his first point]

[@jimmytehgeek]

@@matchesburn You have ignited my interest in an AKM. AK stick mags with that ridge on the back piss me off for some reason, so I've written them off. A drum that doesn't suck (beyond what's described in this vid) would solve that problem nicely.

[@homemadetech5712]

matchesburn [can only carry 2-3 per person compared to 8 with the 40 round box magazines]

[@penguinb.8964]

@@homemadetech5712 wasnt his point but ok

[@MarcusToroian]

@@jimmytehgeek Chinese magazines have a flat back, as well as most polymer and bakelite magazines for the rifle.

[@afhostie]

Can't imagine how heavy the BAR would've been if they'd been issued drum magazines

[@donaldoehl7690]

19.4 lbs with 20rd mag.

[@plushluigi7417]

Vanguard: boy do I have news for you!

[@nunyabidness674]

50 rounds of 30-06, 240 grain slugs, 5.2 lbs + weapon (Just weighed the ammo since I have some on hand)

[@liamroarke7991]

As a fixed/vehicle weapon, though.....it would have been perfect.

[@panther7584]

@@plushluigi7417 NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[@mnk9073]

Hear me out "belt fed PPSh-41". All the style, all the dakka, but gloriously simple.

[@liambird2053]

MNK 90 Paint it red so it shoots faster

[@socksleeve]

Just weld two PPSh’s together, double the dakka

[@Gun_Talk]

PPSH runs out of ammo only when Stalin says its allowed to run out of ammo

[@RvBnerd618]

Make it twin linked too!

[@patricksvarietycorner5700]

Just attach the entire bullet factory to it

[@MTGPringles]

The B.A.R. deserved a 30-06 chain and we know it...

[@nolongerusing7430]

Yeah it looked more like a sniper rifle than a machine gun.

[@Adiscretefirm]

You are right, and the Garand should have come with the 20 round box magazine.

[@JasontheFolf]

@@Adiscretefirm But with that, we would lose the ping.

[@theoldman8877]

B.A.R. with a belt wound last a few hours at best before the barrel is gone to the scrap heap. Replacing barrel on the B.A.R. is a shop operation so it is a very bad idea. Equipping a b.a.r. with a quick change barrel would change the design so much it wouldn't be the same gun. Any gun offered to the military for shooting trials at that time with a quick-change barrel would not have entered into the competition because it did not fit the specifications. Sometimes spray-and-pray is not the best tactic.

[@Lycaonnn]

@@theoldman8877 if the germans could use the mg42 with an interchangeable barrel then so can we

[@jmatt781]

Personally, nothing against drummers, but I prefer the guitar magazines.

[@obamatrump765]

Ehh bassist magazines are cooler but whatever

[@mandowarrior123]

I'm not a fan of periodicals.

[@aarikbenson]

I like the piano Mags

[@FuelAirSparkTime]

Ba-dum-tish🥁

[@dpinoy5642]

Jmatt, you gotta get them 400 round piano mags

[@davidwhite9159]

One slight correction: the Bren mk1 was capable of using a 100 round drum in the anti-aircraft role. It may not have been used much but it did exist

[@neilgibbons2532]

Did you say 100 pounds drum ?????

[@olliverclothesoff4035]

When pointed at infantry accuracy is negligible

[@davitdavid7165]

So thats where vanguard got the idea! Now, do you know of the 72r owen?

[@davitdavid7165]

@@Briggsian arent those kinds of drums at least theorheticaly possible with modern technologies though? Sure they will be unreliable and horrible with 40s materials, but those are not factors considered in a videogame. The owen drum is more interesting as the owen benefits greatly from gravaty helping the feed and the drum destroyes that completely. Puting a drum there does not make sense, even with modern designs.

[@trevorthomas8836]

@@neilgibbons2532 rounds

[@Lintontactical]

When Ian is posting from his office chair things get serious

[@CanalTremocos]

He's speaking _ex cathedra_.

[@travisfreeman1533]

"I've called you into my office to have a talk... Close the door and sit down, please"

[@anna_arw6006]

"This person had a japanese girl for an avatar"

[@DeltaEchoGolf]

Now you've done it!

[@Tenkai917]

Drum magazine in theory: looks cool, you can spray hot lead all over the place! Reality: Heavy, takes forever to reload, rattles like a bucket full of marbles, prone to jamming at the worst possible time.

[@test_dude]

Reload doesn't take that much longer than a normal magazine

[@asessential9498]

@Jordan B. Peterson's Pet Communist Lobster modern drum magazines are just long and circular boxes, so they don't have a uniquely horrible reloading process

[@erebostd]

@@test_dude it does! I can reload 30s with my fast loader in a instant. Would like to see you do this with a drum.

[@MisterW0lfe]

@@test_dude the Magpul 60rd drum for the AR has this horrible ratcheting lever that you have to use to put the spring under tension to insert rounds. Loading it is a pain in the ass, unloading it without damaging it is even worse. The benefits of having 2x the ammo in one case do NOT outweigh the disadvantages.

[@test_dude]

@@erebostd there is a difference in loading and reloading. You LOAD or mag, but RELOAD your weapon. The RELOAD is only a few seconds longer, but that is duable for drums that have more than double the capacity. LOADING the drum indeed takes much longer than a stick mag

[@darthremy1802]

I own one drum mag for my AK's, it spends most of its life unloaded and forgotten in a bag in my closets, but when I take a picture of any AK you know it has the drum mag instead of the 30 rounder locked in. Best 89 dollars ever spent at a pawn shop.

[@jonbocz]

Must be a Russian drum. My Chinese is fully loaded but the spring isn't wound. I wind it up when I think I might use it. I have a photo of myself with an AK and the drum. Caption: I have 75 chances at 1MOA!

[@since1876]

This is the proper use of a drum magazine.

[@jonathanwest6564]

The Germans complained about the Soviet's higher capacity SMG but did not have to deal with the draw backs so it was easy to complain.

[@Undertow15]

There are a lot of guitar magazines out there. I don't see why drum magazines would be bad

[@Russel.Idrive]

Bro get some help its not okay

[@gordordf1091]

@@Russel.Idrive Best response ever, thank you! :D

[@pirateheery6854]

dad jokes vol. 1

[@badspellertyp051]

Hahaaaaaa

[@nofabe]

My stupid ass actually went and checked what a guitar magazine looks like

[@AB-ss1dg]

I like the guy. He knows a lot without appearing arrogant. Good specialist. Keep on so.

[@justinjacquez9321]

Unlike the guy from TFB TV

[@ninjaslash52_98]

Remember, switching to your secondary is faster than reloading.

[@TyreChewingDog]

Click bait media website title: The drum mag manufacturers don't want you to know this!

[@ThatGuy21872]

Except I'm gonna have to reload sometime! Shut the hell up Corporal Dunn!!

[@akejandritoz]

In a videogame

[@kadenashlie5630]

Alejandro Cervantes that’s the joke bud

[@Journey_to_who_knows]

Throwing your primary is faster than switching to your secondary

[@skiller189x4]

I'm about ready to buy a drum magazine for my new AK-47, so I watched this video first. I understand the practicality of the box mags over the drum, and as an old soldier myself I get it. BUT, that said, the drum looks so damn cool on an AK. For range fire, it'll do just fine for me. Update: Bought a KCI drum; all metal (I think there are some with a see-through). Loaded all 75 and took to the range with my Riley AK. Drum fit well, and I fired all rounds flawlessly. Drum did a great job. Very happy with that purchase!

[@00-Dima]

Drums are cool just picked up a norinco drum

[@jakeyfz3078]

Stay away from the promag 50 round drum for the AK. It sucks.

[@lordddame]

Yeah I was gonna say I just bought 1. And everyone says it's hard to carry more than one, but I don't plan on carrying more than one, so I don't see the issue lol.

[@somebodysomewhere4943]

@@lordddame Exactly, Run the drum as your first mag and reload with sticks

[@VBH8888]

Everyone dumps on drum magazines until someone pins you down with one and closes in on your position with sustained fire.

[@neverwalking6890]

I'm gonna run a complicated drum mag on my obsolete bolt action

[@singami465]

Internal drum magazine.

[@captaintripps935]

*bullpup bolt action

[@dustinsterling3248]

My Mosin needs this

[@whitewomanjumpscare.9848]

**Bolt action except you modified a system that allows the bolt to work on its own, effectively creating a semi-automatic repeater, yet it still has its bolt action and drum

[@maxlutz3674]

Actually Steyr Mannlicher built bolt action hunting rifles with drum magazines. They are simple, reliable and easy to carry. Their capacity isn´t exactly high though (around 5 rounds depending on the caliber).

[@TyreChewingDog]

You're all missing the point: The solution is obviously a tetrahedronic prism structure.

Clearly an oblate spherical magazine is the future

[@shottyhottie]

Ladies, ladies. The solution is more obviously an icosahedronical structure. It's simply more reliable

[@JackTPach]

Just throw out the magazine entirely and carry your ammunition individually.

[@TyreChewingDog]

Jack Pacheco big brain

[@DarthDragon007]

No, the true solution is a double drum magazine (beta c-mag) but redesign the feed mechanism to look like an infinity symbol. It'll give you infinite ammo. 😂

[@KudaTheNerd]

I feel like I just got called to the principals office and had a long talk with him.

[@jefferu2577]

Fuck. Yea Same mate

[@Calv-tb1bx]

Stolen

[@peekaboopeekaboo1165]

@HO LAM YIU How the riots doing for ya'll Antifa copycats!

[@caioaugusto3138]

True american school principal. Educating students on what's best to take to school

[@brodieclamp5090]

Walk in to shoot up the school with drum magazines but then he calls you in to his office to bollock you for not using box magazines

[@karlbrown9112]

This is an old topic but it just came up in my feed. I'll add my two cents as I have sat in on discussions about this topic for military procurement. The perspective of serving members is mostly one of need. Our tactics are based in "effective use of fire suppression to win the firefight." If you are using small teams with fire and movement we learned in the last Afghan conflict it was better to have 30 shots of accurate volumes of fire than mag dumps using long sustained bursts. And if you don't need long sustained fire you don't need 10 lbs of ammo hanging on a weapon that will for the most part not be shot and just be carried on patrol all day. The other side of that is reloading in a sustained gunfight. The standard battle order is 5 mags and 5 additional boxes of clips(10 roundsx3/box) which you can pack in mags with a mag charger in seconds vs fiddling with spring mechanisms. There are a lot of ways to think about it. But from most field perspectives drums are bulky, heavy, hard to reload, and not needed for the roles that we are performing. We have belts for sustained fire and you just clip a belt together rather than pack a drum.

[@longbow6416]

PPsh-41 drum: I assume you want to hold the trigger for longer than you can blink

[@phizix666]

I shot one full auto and it was amazing...like a laser beam...

[@longbow6416]

@@phizix666 I have a Tokarev in 7.62x25 and wow, thats a hot round! Even has slightly better performance than .45 acp. The Red army developed it to penetrate through thick German coats and other 'things' that might get in the way of a meaty target (canteens, radios, belts, etc).

[@getmeoutofsanfrancisco9917]

@@longbow6416 Generally speaking, the 45 ACP delivers superior muzzle energy and terminal ballistics (around double) over the 7.62 Tokarev weight over weight. For instance when using similar (but even slightly heavier) grain projectiles it also beats the 7.62 Tokarev in velocity (again around double). The difference is that the 85 grain Tokarev in 1942 had superior performance in penetration and slightly better overall energy than the 1942 USGI .45 ACP with its heavy 230 grain bullet. Energy and penetration favoring velocity. But a simple lowering in projectile weight of the .45 acp (even shaving off just 30 grains) changed all of that. Not factoring things like +P loads.

[@leMiG31]

Yes drums are bad except this Ppsh is the ultimate weapon,behind m16,ak47,g3,mp5

[@WhenDoesTheVideoActuallyStart]

​@@getmeoutofsanfrancisco9917"A modern .45 using modern powder outperforms a WW2 milsurp 7.62" no shit

[@BigYabai]

Long story short: Drums are good for sustained fire with minimal reloading from a stationary position. Drums are bad in any situation that requires mobility.

[@engeenir7440]

Well yes but actually no. Drums jam easy so you can't sustain fire either, so you have to "reload" the same drum every 15-20 round anyway. :(

[@Craterfist]

Possibly, but if you're going to be stationary while shooting, may as well have a belt feed.

[@KrillMister57]

Well said

[@benayakeenanhutagalung9798]

Wouldnt belt take more time to reload than drum mags?

[@johnverick-smith9794]

@@benayakeenanhutagalung9798 depends on the type of gun. I've seen a multi crew served M2 be fully reloaded in five seconds. Now a SAW is a bit trickier to reload but it's not as bad as you'd think. With practice it becomes reflex and muscle memory just like a stick magazine.

[@mrmr_zoomie]

Hollywood: this sign won’t stop me because I can’t read.

[@Sparticulous]

Zoomie for some reason i think they really never cared for accuracy

[@MausOfTheHouse]

@@Sparticulous have you seen older movies? Man reloading was never a thing back then.

[@space_racc]

@@MausOfTheHouse the old Rambo days lmao

[@MausOfTheHouse]

@@space_racc yes.

[@MausOfTheHouse]

@John Covington for tension moments.

[@Mixu.]

I remember when I was younger I thought drums were cool. That quickly evaporated from my mind when I got a Thompson with a drum in my hands. There was no "correct" way to hold it without something pressing against the side of the drum (it had the blocky front hand guard, not the gangster grip). Nowdays I'm even looking at 20 round mags as pretty viable.

[@MagnumLoadedTractor]

The weird thing is I hated drums as a child(well mostly beta c mags)but now they look cool as hell...

[@atomgrav6861]

Me: “Drum magazines are awesome Gun Jesus: “Drum magazines are unreliable” Me: “Drum magazines are unreliable..”

[@B_K460]

Gun jesus🤣🤣🤣

[@yvettecorral9932]

Pray to Gun jesus 🤧🙏🏽😅

[@theykilledjoel1496]

I’ve went through plenty of drums no malfunctions

[@signalworks]

And He like literally nobody asked lol

[@Rahnonymous]

Yeah, but you get that sicc meme cred with drums. And as well all know, meme cred is the best cred to have

[@mrblacktrh]

"Belt infrastructure" I love it. Gonna start using it when someone calls me fat. "No, I've invested in belt infrastructure!"

[@miguelburgueno4891]

...good point, LOL..!!!

[@IamTheGoatstroker]

Adipose infrastructure

[@DavidSmith-ss1cg]

@@IamTheGoatstroker - It doesn't build up; it builds OUT.

[@TheLegitAlpha]

I’m taking that joke.

[@justinpowell3174]

Well now I have to steal thisp

[@zachdugan7320]

You make some compelling arguments, but you forget: Drum Mags are cool af.

[@danieliussupienis9703]

Yeah, but war itself is shit from the begining.

[@danieliussupienis9703]

Might as well end it as fast and efficiantly as possible.

[@sykoslim8851]

They're intimidating until you realize they jam every other round & you can take a couple well aimed shots to put the guy with the drum out of commission

[@BrunodeSouzaLino]

Let me see you load 10 drum magazines by hand. 50 bullet ones.

[@kriegerh]

@@BrunodeSouzaLino you only need one to the head to kill someone. If you need that much ammo loaded in your gun then why not just learn to shoot better and not waste so much ammo. A sniper on the battlefield is far scarier than some dude with a drum mag so much so that only someone with a belt fed 50 cal machine gun is considered its equal. Personally I'd be more terrified of the guy who can pot shot me at 900 yards with iron sights then some Rambo just running around spraying.

[@PossumReviews]

It's also kind of awkward to use a drum with a bullpup style rifle.

[@MagnumLoadedTractor]

Or something compact like a tec 9 and the glock

[@wildcard3261]

The biggest mag in a aug is for 42. No need for a drum

[@dondeka2086]

Imagine a BREN with a drum mag

[@Squidlovesu]

The real solution is to just hook it up to the machine that manufactures the ammo. Come on guys, think outside the box for once.

[@lordcaler1661]

I think on top of the box like a boxspring mattress

[@peabrain6872]

badum tss

[@HellecticMojo]

Factorio strats

[@WitchyWagonReal]

A year later, I finally figured out the solution: To develop a quantum mechanical drum (QC Drum), where a combination of quantum superposition and quantum tunneling enables a functionally unlimited amount of ammunition, stored and prepped in a far away, secure location, to instantly appear inside the rotation of the QC Drum as the operator is pulling the trigger. The QC Drum device can be removed for maintenance or recharging, but it will simply be loaded in the firearm before the fight, be activated by the selector switch, and begin quantum transference of ammo as soon as the operator starts firing and the quantum superposition sensors note that ammunition must be tunneled from the storage location to the connected QC Drum. Science, amarite? What? 🤨 Hale yeeah I’m serious... I didn’t sound like it? Well, shit... I ain’t no Einstein.

[@andersonrobotics5608]

@RadBaeron quantum tunnel all the bad guys away boom fight is over

[@AudioDud3]

"This is brilliant!" *points at box mag* "But I like this" *points at drum mag*

[@michaeljohnsonbaugh7962]

Other way around would make sense

[@daffiid]

I think that would actually be Clarkson’s opinion lol

[@clintcannon1902]

@@daffiid Clarkson...as in Jeremy Clarkson?

[@fanta4897]

@@daffiid Nah mate. He would probably like helical mags.

[@eljaroebeukes5118]

@@clintcannon1902 its a Clarkson quote.

[@christiankirkenes5922]

That my friends is why, when the superior Calico was created they integrated a helical magazine

[@someguythatlookslikeme8306]

loved the Calico. ahead of its time.

[@zepetv589]

@@someguythatlookslikeme8306 Ahead of it's time? Nah just a bad idea. Even the bizon sees virtually no use in comparison to it's almost identical box mag fed derivative.

[@dak4465]

Oh god not anothe rone of YOU people

[@kh8655]

PP-19 Bizon is so much more cool though. Magazine becomes the handguard

[@some_Russian_dude]

I believe the reason why the bizon isn't seeing much use, is because it's used exclusively for Russia and refuse to export it. And I believe is used only for counter terrorism teams. I could be wrong but that's my guess

[@tripleseven29]

Wait, can we just think about this guys? Imagine a 75 round drum mag, firing 30-06

[@danielknepper6884]

Manly Weapon

[@Keragom]

I am a drummer. The video thumbnail just said "why drums are bad" Relief of my life

[@melonxo]

omg same

[@firmanimad]

"Gun Jesus reviews instruments"

[@lolfunacount]

is this Plan B when he ever runs out of Forgotten Weapons? xP

[@fanta4897]

@@lolfunacount He would switch to forgotten instruments?

[@Kazperian]

Same lol, thought the video was about music

[@Crozarius]

Any Tarkov Player: "they have a really high ergonomics penalty!"

[@esapophenic]

u r a really funny man Take reddit gold yes

[@X-900]

I bet you a majority of people watching this video think they know a lot about this stuff because they play Tarkov

[@vegaspapp]

@@X-900 Tarkov's been ruined by becoming popular

[@zenjji1158]

Vegas Papp dumbest shit I ever heard

[@edyslavico3761]

@@vegaspapp Lol get back to having to wait 10 hours to find a server and/or play only with bots

[@nightingaleseraph]

I only like drums as a flex against the local range brass goblin.

[@havocnationriders755]

Yes, under rated comment.

[@KickstandOptional]

Remember, kids: don't feed the Fudds.

[@wedohedoshedooowee828]

A flex how so?

[@dogslappingandcowtipping2273]

That’s why I use an ak with the shittiest steel jacket ammo and only use my brass jackets at my own range

[@arieheath7773]

All the old geezers try and take my brass every time I go to the range. Like seriously, at least ask me if I’m going to reload it first or something.

[@dfens762]

My feeling is that drums are good for having one as your first mag thats in your gun while on patrol or standing guard so that when an engagement begins, It would be advantageous to be able to fire back with a lot of shots before you have to reload as you assess the threat and plan your response, but from there on out switch to box mags as the engagement continues.

[@masteryoda5608]

This guy sounds crazy!! Drums are king if you’re not deployed to war. You would rather not have to deal with some robbers with 100 round drums

[@tristan8435]

This is true but it makes sense why they don’t do that. Adds a lot of manufacturing complications as well as storage

[@snek9353]

Guard maybe, not on patrol, too heavy and awkward to carry.

[@anthonylee6322]

Perfectly stated and how I would use one.

[@johnkilcer]

As a sheet metal guy I can definitely tell you it is much easier to do rectangles than circles. Also less waste from a mfg standpoint.

[@owainnewton326]

“It’s a bad idea” “Yeeaaah, but-“

[@MythagoWoods]

Newt On one hand, rule of cool. On the other, it’s a bad idea.

[@jimmyjohns541]

The military uses sissy 30 and 40 round magazines

[@Zack_Wester]

@@MythagoWoods I read that some units that Used the M4 or M16 (or the local variant ) had a semi policy of everyone carried Stick/box mag then one soldier carried in the rifle loaded one and this is the only Drum mag the unit had more or less (might be a extra on the ammo carriers backpack or in some truck/APC or that) the ide was that they would during a attack/defense have one soldier start the battle whit a 75 drum mag or what it now was then swift to regular box mags to temporary go from one LMG to two giving a small edge or from zero to one.

[@sweetballs4742]

Aktually

[@naufaloriginal3079]

Title : "Why drum magazine are bad" Russian PPSH-41 : 𝗔 𝗡 𝗚 𝗘 𝗥 𝗬

[@bulletkingaming2808]

Papasha

[@milkanum1452]

@@bulletkingaming2808 Batya

[@АлександрАлександр-ш5щ9х]

This is a special case. There was a frantic rate of fire and inexperienced shooters. And it was also convenient to sit on a drum in the halt, resting the machine butt in the mud: -D. This is Russia, comrade :-)

[@rileymilligan3272]

Александр Александр But wasn't the PPSh-41 known for it's horrendous jamming with a fully loaded 71 round drun magazine? I read somewhere that the soviets loaded the drun mags with 5-6 bullets missing so it greatly improved it's reliability.

[@АлександрАлександр-ш5щ9х]

@@rileymilligan3272 4G 11% 13:40 OTBETBI MICROSOFT Jacket 6 AHEN Ha3aA @Juben Domli Balandra Batya AnekcaHAp AnekcaHAp nekcaHAP But wasn’t the PPSH-41 known for its terrible jamming with a fully loaded 71-round drunk magazine? 5-6 bullets, which greatly improved its reliability. TnaBHaA HaBuraTop NognnCKN BxogALne 5nánnOTEka :-D an attempt to present the beauty of the reverse translation through the English text was not very successful. However, drunken round magazines and magazines with strippers are only a small part of what Soviet soldiers built: -D Against this background, the problems of 71.72 and 73 cartridge disks seem like a trifle. No, they jammed for other reasons. Yes, even now, many do not fully charge stores.

[@notottomedic]

I respect, understand, and acknowledge all of the downsides but im going to have to ignore them because of how iconic a Thompson with drum is.

[@gradymoxley2925]

Drums weren't intended for carrying, drums were usually for people staying in one spot who could have more drums next to them

[@rickbrasche8781]

pretty much sums it all up right there!

[@dominickjustave3558]

True

[@australium7374]

Drums were great in defense usually in the case where the enemy was charging in and you could spray people down without running out

[@noahmcabee2534]

Facts

[@noahmcabee2534]

But at the same time you dont know when or if you have to dip out on a 1sec notice .

[@miyu_myu21]

Remember throwing your gun at the enemy is faster than reloading and switching to your secondary gun

[@rpm6085]

Technically, throwing the pommel of your sword is the way to finish your opponent rightly. (If you don’t know where that’s from, I’m quoting someone else)

[@metaldave556]

ok john wick

[@abbytran8514]

Can anyone confirm this??

[@JelloDonatello]

@@rpm6085 For Honor player? No way

[@m4tthemad912]

Borderlands:

[@spdutahraptor777]

The whole gangster gimmick is based 75% on a drum magazine Thompson

[@Mackensp99]

It’s not a gimmick g

[@spdutahraptor777]

@@Mackensp99 gimmicks, looks, appereances, oufits... whatever you wanna call it

[@sebru]

Drum mag Thompson is mostly used in mafias like the fedora mafias

[@Freekymoho]

You just cant give someone the Don's regards without a drum. It's not the same

[@kmit9191]

In Ganster use, drum magazines are highly effective though, as you only need that one mag to do your job. Just like the PP19 for police

[@someguy95981]

The only time I will "carry" a drum mag, even for a match, is when it is the very first mag used and already in the gun. Every other mag is a box mag

[@habibizbaydar]

Can't hear you over the sound of my akimbo MP5's with 50-round drum mags.

[@YZER19]

That's the spirit. I'll wait here till tomorrow when you finally run out of ammo.

[@beyondbackwater4933]

@@YZER19 wait here until tomorrow when her finishes loading the rounds in it.

[@alltat]

We'll just walk away from you for a while and wait for you to collapse from the combined weight.

[@johnm3907]

alltat its a computer game no weight

[@pete1972]

attaboi

[@jonasverpe6486]

haha dinner plate go brrrrr

[@_fishs]

NOOOO YOU CANT JUST MAKE A BIG CIRCLE THAT’S LESS PRACTICAL THAN A BOX MAG!!! ITS TOO BIG AND COMPLICATED TO MAKE!!! IT MAKES THE WEAPON HARDER TO USE!!!

[@martinmccoy9661]

I saw this and my mind instantly went to “ daddy kalash clap* gun clap* meme clap* review! How are you doing you sexy KZbin mother lovers

[@almost41632]

NOT MY HECKIN BOXERINO MAGAZINOS

[@Da_Shark]

This is why I say thinking less leads to good ideas sometimes... are drums bad? Yes but they hold more dakka

[@henrynautilus3072]

@@Jerr2k3k You have done a great service.

[@sumvs5992]

Ian: Drum mags are too complicated Suomi KP 31: * laughs in quadruple stack box magazine *

[@boilingman4357]

@@lostalone9320 yeah one bump in mag and all ammo is mess inside of a mag

[@mateuszstanczak8099]

This also applies to bigger guns, the soldiers using the 20 mm Oerlikon AA guns during WW2 complained a lot about the drum mags these were using, and that's why the Oerlikon's successor - the Polsten was capable of using new box magazines

[@equusquagga]

Ian: saying "pa-pa-sha" instead of P.P.S.h. Russians watching the video: Finally! Ура!

[@Demon_Pig]

Some of them are still mildly disturbed. ;) It's "pe-pe-sha."

[@equusquagga]

@@Demon_Pig Well, that's true. Hope Ian will keep improving his Russian to better fit into his ushanka hat.

[@drHandOff]

"Papasha" is ironic variant of word "Father", Папаша. And it's indeed PePeSha.

[@TheArklyte]

@@equusquagga then he'd be too dangerous to keep alive. You should never allow american, french and russian worldview mix. Only thing more dangerous is mixing germans and russians...

[@steirqwe7956]

Yeah, but word "Папаша" have emphasis on another syllable and ain't even rythme with ПэПэШа. This nickname just sounds way to stretched.

[@rockeyrocket1224]

This explains why nobody took my pretzel shaped mag design seriously.

[@donaldcope4982]

Shoulda Worked?.....Maybe salt-free next time!

[@Hanzer-ns5bh]

Needs more cheese

[@ablationer]

Golden Ratio shaped drum mag

[@naenaemister5048]

rockey rocket I think this a great idea

[@_trashPANDA]

"The magazine is in the shape of an infinity symbol, so it has infinite ammo."

[@jonsong4592]

PPSH41: I declare you an enemy of the revolution.

[@projectpitchfork860]

PPS-43: Oh, I don’t think so.

[@kendov288]

Well, it is always DEPICTED with a drum mag, but the reality was that most PPSH's were used with stick mags.

[@Fierywell]

@@kendov288 kinda of like the Thompson

[@japanshizam270]

@@kendov288 I will not accept this

[@thatguy7155]

@@kendov288 yeah but most photo from ww2 sees ppsh with drum mag due to how iconic it is to the soviet union

[@lshtar777]

A 30rd drum magazine for a semi-automatic shotgun can be VERY useful. I had to take a confirmed magazine that fit, cut out the part that fit, then remove the Pro-Mag 25rd (it has 3 spacers you can remove for 28 plus leave a little magazine for 2-3 more. I used regular JB Weld to attach the magazine that fits my shotty, that i sawed off to attach to the drum so it would fit. Rock and Roll-uh

[@CharliMorganMusic]

Nobody who likes drums has ever carried more than one at a time.

[@borderelite]

I was running a thompson smg in airsoft for about 2 years, granted both gun and mags where plastic and aluminum but i managed to fit 9 spare mags on my gear, i love drum mags in airsoft because most of them have massive reservoirs that hold 400+ rounds but i do think a quad stack mag is better for real guns.

[@curtishendrix2835]

@@borderelite we talk about real guns here sir

[@borderelite]

@@curtishendrix2835 i did talk about real guns, did you see where i said quad stack mag's are better or did you just stop at airsoft.

[@curtishendrix2835]

@@borderelite let’s not pretend your comment wasn’t was clearly based on airsoft experience alone.

[@poopoopeepeeman6460]

I want a drum in my Glock 43

[@blackpinknyashka]

This "PPSHa" is honey to my ears. Thank you, Ian

[@jimmyjohns541]

The military uses sissy 30 and 40 round magazines

[@Decimator16]

This is why we need 200 round box magazines that are 4 feet long for our ar-15's

[@cmasonw]

*doubles as a standing monopod*

[@3.9L_V8]

Imagine the spring and follower!

[@NiCoNiCoNiCola]

You can use empty mags as improvised batons

[@Manikhiphop]

My Surefire Mag-5 100rd magazines are half that but just as fun 😂

[@tay4093]

shit not with biden in office

[@StonyRC]

DAMN - I always wondered why drums weren't more widely used. Turns out, the answer is pretty obvious. Thanks Ian - another nugget of firearms history GOLD!!

[@bois6245]

The mafia: my disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined.

[@Nutzkie2001]

Another reason: GIs who carried the Thompson drum mag early in the war complained that the ammo tended to rattle around inside of it, making sound and light discipline a difficult proposition.

[@James-ng6nl]

Steve Cope ahh tis battle rattle

[@manoflamancha218]

I hate when the rattle gives off light.

[@urbypilot2136]

Which of course wasn't a problem for the local mobster that wanted to scare the living shit out of others with his Thompson

[@jimmnythecricket1175]

Yeah, but your not being exactly silent when firing the gun...

[@blackdeath4eternity]

@@jimmnythecricket1175 no, but the moments leading up to that can be quite important.

[@werewolfnar]

When talking with my WWII vet grandfather, drums vs stick magazines came up. His comment was limited to "The drums rattle so much you can't sneak with it." Just an anecdote.

[@calvin99991]

Magazine guys: "watch how fast I can reload" Drum guys (after 5 minutes of shooting): "what?"

[@SilverGamingFI]

Mag guy: look how easy it is to reload! Drum guy on his 4th barrel and still the first drum: aight?

[@IdleWorker]

And here's why they're a good idea: The Rule of Cool.

[@MrTwistedLizard]

IM SORRY I CAN"T HEAR YOU OVER ALL THIS AMMO I GOT TO SLING AROUND

[@dawsonweber99]

MrTwistedLizard Have fun clearing all those misfeeds, boah.

[@kingofthegames7179]

@@dawsonweber99 *me trying to unjam my shit for the 20th time* you alright, boah

[@kerbotr]

*Clicks trigger Oh sry jammed agsin just let me yeah okay now pull that push that take that OH FUCK sry have to do it again

[@youtubesucks1111]

@@camillecirrus3977 remember, no German.

[@chasepursley4069]

Mr Mackey: “Drums are bad. M’kay?”

[@TyreChewingDog]

Drums are impractical, m'kay?

[@TangoFoxtrotRando]

My thoughts immediately

[@CoolSmoovie]

I love those hilarious videos of people showing off their AR/AR pistols and they have like a 100 round drum mag on it

[@WDMurphy]

When a drum jams you just lost a lot of potential ammo.

[@EvilishDem0nic8732WhatItDo]

Then you're screwed cause now 86 bullets left in the drum and you have no clips on your person

[@stephenwebb1662]

Yeah cause you can't clear a jam 🙄. You aren't that ignorant are you? Lol

[@masonf7332]

William Murphy u look like a Viking that could literally kill me with one punch lmao

[@WDMurphy]

@@masonf7332 lol, My last name is Murphy cough cough.

[@WDMurphy]

@@stephenwebb1662 If you have a drum that jams internally, the drum can take some time to fix. I've had to take them apart completely a few times, tho the 50 round ones aren't too bad.

[@baumstamp5989]

Moral of the story... carry one drum mag on gun, carry rest of ammo in box/stick mags on body :-)

[@vulpesinculta3593]

So where do you put your awkward drum after the first reload? Just throw it away like it's a videogame? :D

[@diegoperez0]

Vulpes Inculta discard pouch... thats what every one does.

[@Fourthmark]

@@vulpesinculta3593 Yes thats exactly what you do, but like before you do anything else. Toss it get more box mags.

[@FXIIBeaver]

@@vulpesinculta3593 yes. The military will always replace.

[@patrickw9520]

@@vulpesinculta3593 in a hard and heavy firefight, yeah pretty fkn much what you do

[@ram_33-3]

Might wanna level up your stamina to carry those drum's

[@jebcoe]

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[@Corvus__]

@@jebcoe ?

[@zy_zir]

@@Corvus__ e

[@Corvus__]

@@zy_zir Not amused.

[@taylenseeley6188]

"Endurance level 50"

[@CaptainCraigKWMRZ]

It comes down to," have you ever owned/used a drum?" Get one and tote it to the range, fire it, and reload it. Then go home and display it on the shelf.

[@Ashfielder]

Drum mags are bad? Alright, I believe you. But my Tommy gun don’t!

[@davidjames1068]

The British army abandoned using Tommy guns with drum magazines in WW2 because they were too noisy on patrols.

[@werefett]

Breadfan93 Baby, Im over the moon for you!

[@username-1122]

Sticks look better on the thompson in my opinion

[@decker528]

The drum just looks classic. I prefer the stick mag also though

[@ToastyMozart]

Keep the change, ya filthy animal. Drums look better with the vertical grip, sticks look better with the flat grip IMO.

[@enricopaolocoronado2511]

So basically: 1.) Single-Stacked/Double-Stacked Magazines are just more effective and affordable over drums. 2.) Drum Magazines are heavy to lug around with. 3.) Quad-Stacked Magazines are an intermediary between regular and drum mags. 4.) Drums are aesthetically pleasing to look at and shoot with but are a major pain in the ass to reload. BTW, how effective are the modern quad-stack magazines compared to ones made in WW2? EDIT: Holy shit. I left this comment 23 hours ago (a of 01-10-2020) and I've gotten this many replies already. EDIT 2: Thanks for the answers guys. I appreciate it.

[@sirromanov3038]

Some quad-stacks made today are notorious for jamming, I guess since they don't get made with as much quality.

[@WALTERBROADDUS]

Uh, what quad stacked mags? Off hand, can't think of any made that far back.

[@modarkthemauler]

@@WALTERBROADDUS The SITES specter had a 30rd quad stacked mag in the 70s. Ian mentioned the suomi having one in this video.

[@matchesburn]

It's much more difficult to make and design a reliable and functioning quad-stack than it is to make and design a reliable and functioning drum. Also, back-cover drums are ridiculously easy to load.

[@andreahighsides7756]

Modern quad stack mags are still not super reliable. Surefire makes a 60 round quad stack that reportedly will not feed with steel case ammo at all, but works decently with brass. Magpul attempted to design a quad stack magazine several years ago but never brought the product to market as they just couldn’t get it to function reliably.

[@theoldman8877]

Hay, my music teacher told me drums were bad in the third grade, I never recovered from that rejection. 70 now.

[@marknelson8435]

Let it go, Ringo!

[@SwordGuardian]

Another example of the drum gun being replaced with a non-drum gun was the MG15 being replaced with the MG81 in manually operated German aircraft gunner positions. The mag didn't really seem all that bad, but for its role a belt was considerably more convenient, and you have to wonder why they even went with drums in the first place.

[@rayyanma1608]

The only "advantage" to a drum is turning an assault rifle or smg into an improvised light machine gun for suppressing fire. Even then, it's obviously not that great.

[@dreadedenterprise51]

ok

[@IWillSmurfYou]

ok

[@le4-677]

ok

[@airbornewarningandcontrols396]

ok

[@fulcrum2951]

ok

[@whyiwakeup6460]

Almost every nerfer in existence: yes

[@mrmr_zoomie]

I couldn’t hear you over the sound of my electric motor.

[@B_Site]

@@mrmr_zoomie flywheel masterrace

[@senorali]

@Henry Schnelle Every zombie within 1000 feet would like to know your location.

[@timmyalexandranova]

got those clear 18 rounders =)

[@Lonech]

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[@DeputatKaktus]

A crossover between a box and a drum should be called „bum“. Admittedly, „Drox“ would work too, but doesn’t have the same ring to it.

[@YHLGguitargeek]

Ah man.. I'm sorry General, I cant go to war today. Yeah.. I got a bum magazine.

[@realisticminecraftsteve4308]

Drox is better

[@ixysmxke.999]

“Hey man, you got an extra bum?”

[@biscuit_boy8316]

Bumdrox is better

[@hdexotic1914]

@@biscuit_boy8316 drombux

[@ChristopherSloane]

The advantage it gives you is useful in some cases. I Used one on a Norinco that was made by Norinco and it ran great. I paid $35 for it. Now a Drum costs $120 to $180 and carries roughly 50 rounds. If you need a lot of ammo on tap without a belted ammo source a Drum is the best bet. In CQC you can round a corner firing, you are firing while the enemy is reloading, you are pouring in rounds while your enemy is crapping themselves. Carrying it is the only issue.