How can Newcastle United EXPAND St James' Park Stadium?

Following on from our podcast with Construction Project Director Steven Hodgson, we took a tour of St James' Park with him discussing where specifically can and can't be expanded at the stadium.
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[@michael6401]

The leazes park stadium idea as shown in the bondibot video is the ideal solution imho

[@badofcheese]

What’s a bondibot?

[@andrewford119]

I thought that was a brilliant video. Really informative. Is spending nearly half a billion to create 8-10,000 seats really viable? I don’t think so; especially when most of them would be set aside for corporate. Pity we can’t just build it in Leazers Park and reconstitute SJP into a park area to mitigate the loss of green space. It might even be better as the new green area would be closer to the city.

[@rossmcfarlane1219]

Nice to hear from someone that actually knows what they're talking about rather than fans who have zero experience of construction and engineering.

[@Serioustwister]

Our fan base is embarrassingly thick on social media. Every toon comment section I read, I’m left physically cringing with the shite that people put out there. The owners being ‘clueless’ is one of them….. I wish they’d ban the comments on Instagram lol

[@stuartpirie5416]

@@Serioustwister Feel the exact same way. There is a reason the owners are successful and your average football fan is not. Happy to listen to opinions from those qualified/credible enough to give them!

[@rogercookcouk]

The ball is thankfully in their court! My vote is (would be) for a new stadium, in Leazes Park area.

[@DanielCordone9]

We're going to knock the first row of Leazes Terrace down and expand the stadium to 78000. Great news that Miguel Almiron is staying

[@LiamK1998]

@@DanielCordone9we wouldn’t sell out 78k unless it’s against someone like Man United or Arsenal I would get 65k capacity stadium

[@rossmcfarlane1219]

There's grade 2 listed buildings in leazes park

[@LiamK1998]

@@rossmcfarlane1219 even if we was to build a new stadium where would we play? Tottenham played at Wembley when their ground was getting rebuilt

[@rogercookcouk]

I did say Leazes Park AREA lads. And my biggest 'why' move, is due to my disability in a nutshell. The bogs need upgrading massively and I cannot see a way to do that stadium wide. The Emirates (I was at the 7-3) is a far more (physically speaking) easier venue than our beloved SJP.

[@levstone415]

Excellent new information 👍

[@mbells4858]

Video clearly sums up that it wouldn’t be worth expanding the current stadium for the amount of seats you’d gain. It’s got to be a new stadium, ideally in Leazes park.

[@nolslifegren]

Cost ?

[@SuperMagnum83]

@@nolslifegren They have the richest owners in the world and stadium construction doesn't count towards FFP., so £1.5 billion for an 80k to 85k new stadium is peanuts to the Saudi owners.

[@nolslifegren]

@@SuperMagnum83 Chill . Its never gonna happen

[@SuperMagnum83]

@@nolslifegren So why ask about cost of a new stadium if you think a new stadium will never happen?

[@nolslifegren]

@@SuperMagnum83 In order to point out how unfeasible it is ...

[@philc4661]

Option C from Bondibot video... Expand into leazes Park and replace the victorian steps where St James current stands, making a park outside Leazes terrace. Who could argue with that!

[@Toenala]

Let's have a brand new 80,000 all seater stadium.

[@PURETRANCETV]

Good listening to this😊😊

[@tfnufc]

Thank you, glad you enjoyed it

[@senshibat8920]

Traffic management and flow.. off site parking and shuttle from a park and ride for events. Limited restricted route under Stadia Stands tunnel, Metro station change can help. The Listed East Stand areas a bother. We've directed traffic pedestrian safety for a stadia domed and 62.5 cap What St James has is very congested at max flow on foot traffic. A wide Check point Skyway above ground connecting to ticket entry off a stadia is a good thing to investigate.

[@Bereal711]

Absolutely pointless expanding the stadium if it’s only 10k extra. Makes no sense at all.

[@SKINDEREE]

The Gallowgate wouldn't be too much of a problem bridging across the road like we have at Eldon Square on Blackett Street. We could take the building right back incorporating a hotel or conference centre plus fan zone into the structure. The East Stand could be knocked down and built to a better spec than it currently is being made slightly bigger than it is now. If you look at Real Betis's stadium they have a stand that is very thin and steep which doesn't take up a lot of room although ours would have to be mostly glass for light issues. I cannot understand some of the moaning comments as usual as we have had to do these things in the past with the rebuilding of the West Stand in the 80's etc Surely you can put up with some short term pain for longer term gain?

[@markmartin541]

Great KZbin video guys - be good to do something similar on Leazes Park area as I think that’s a lot of people perfect choice for new stadium ( directly behind current Leazes. Stand ) do a deep dive into conservation / public spaces / grade 2 listed structuresetc … what could be. done to make a new studium happen - I think this is part of the feasability study and club have been on this for past two years ?

[@senshibat8920]

The Strawberry stack right beats going from the Washington Square Holiday inn hotel for visiting clubs from Europe. Placing a PIF Sponsors St James Hotel via again a skyway Corporate level access partnership?

[@daveyeddie8176]

The logistics are horrendous, moving metro stations, really, like been said all for 10,000 extra seats, I cannot see it, if it happens so be it, but it's a logistical nightmare both the Gallowgate end expansion and the east stand expansion.

[@tfnufc]

Does seem that way!

[@earthlingcarl3179]

Just build it on Leazes park then turn current St James' into an actual park, job done!

[@NUFC2412]

Just that easy 😂

[@Jeffybonbon]

Flogging a dead horse and you wont want me to say what I am going to say NUFC has the potential to be a Mega Club but NUFC dont have a Mega Stadium ? what they have is a postage stamp location with historic memories My own view is NUFC needs a new Stadium and i think the location is owned by the clubs owners now and it at Newcastle Race course Its bang on the A1 and is close to the airport Loads of room to park cars ect Its madness keeping St James Park if the supporters want a Mega Club If the Club owners paid for a Metro link to the race course the Council and Planners would give them anything they want SJP could be kept by the club and used for other purposes Think 25 years ahead

[@derekmooney2771]

the east stand will always be the issue - the Leazes Park option with a replacement green area where the stadium exists at present is the perfect solution. got to keep the dog walkers happy.....

[@goatfather5711]

Mick needs a tshirt, How to become number 1, Do something about it. There are no restrictions what you write on a t-shirt, but there are restriction how you run a football club.

[@robinbarnes729]

Seems a lot of work and disturbance for 10,000 seats max. Then we have a stadium that can never be extended further. I think we have to be brave and do what Tottenham did; twist and build around the current stadium. Yes, it would extend into the park, which is problematic. However, we can offer up some of the current plot as an entrance to the park, running right into the town centre. PIF could also extend the park in other directions and build other parks and green spaces around the city. They have deep enough pockets to keep the council/aldermen of the park happy.

[@kevinmyers5534]

Leazers park belongs to the NEWCASTLE PUBLIC...its been 20+ years since John hall wanted to do, give the NEWCASTLE PUBLIC a vote...Times have changed, this would benefit NEWCASTLE CITY

[@kevinmyers5534]

@zeezee3513 newvcastle City has a stand alone catchment area, the rest is either tyne and wear,

[@alexmalex1778]

Basically changing the logistics of a city to add 10k seats does not seam viable. I think we should stay at st James as it is and begin building a new stadium and in 3 years when we’re an established football club we move to the new stadium

[@WarrickHunt]

There was no official statement from the club that we were going to upgrade st James park it was all paper talk and if the club have said it post the links here

[@jun3078]

We know corporate seats disgusts people but in terms of match day revenue they give highest margin per pax as they are usually part of CRM with sponsors, if you want your ticket price to not go higher than what it already is then corporates gotta stay.

[@kevinmyers5534]

Why don't pif build a new state of the art hospital? With private ambulance road...money well invested

[@SteveMallam]

I can just imagine how the grumpy old sods who sit in the East Stand (of whom I am very much one myself) would react to being moved to the top tier of a new expanded Gallowgate for a year or two while the ES is rebuilt 😀 But I am still in the "stay at SJP at all costs" club, so needs must...

[@SuperMagnum83]

By staying you would be depriving 25K people every week of seeing Newcastle United. I think 85K per week is what Newcastle could get if they had a Gigantic Stadium.

[@SteveMallam]

@@SuperMagnum83 we could get 85,000 for the big league games, sure. But we wouldn’t get 85,000 at home to Tranmere in the league cup. Need to sell out for every single game to support the pricing strategy - scarcity leads to demand.

[@SuperMagnum83]

@@SteveMallam That's stupid, Barcelona have averaged under 75K in a 99K stadium for decades, who cares if people don't turn up for a league cup game against lower league opposition? You might only play one home league cup game in a season or maybe zero if you keep getting drawn away. If you want to be a mega club you need a mega stadium or just stay in line with West Ham and Tottenham with a 62K stadium and West Ham will increase to 68K soon. A world where West Ham have more home supporters than Newcastle is clown world.

[@kevinmyers5534]

Leazers terrace will become hospitality seating

[@paulstones1451]

Who is that bloke ? Should of said who he was at the start of the video

[@tfnufc]

Stephen is a construction project director, been involved in countless major projects across the UK. In his own time he writes articles for us here at True Faith and has done a lot of research into St James' Park over the years. Apologies this wasn't addressed at the start though.

[@krisdeltoro]

Nexus don’t “own” that land. Their contract with council might not be renewed anyway.

[@kevinmyers5534]

What will happen is the PIF with rehouse ALL occupants of Leazers terrace, then keep the buildings but gut them incorporated into the stadium....same as Craven cottage, natural light issue gone

[@nolslifegren]

Prediction - PIF will spend bare minimum and tart up what weve already got .

[@Bereal711]

So basically after watching 31 mins of this I’ve come to the conclusion that absolutely no one knows what’s happening with the stadium. It’s like ground hog day. Why don’t the owners just come out and tell us the possible outcomes

[@nolslifegren]

Coz its gonna be a lick of paint job

[@geordiesatstjamess]

ive seen the plans its a 82.000 seater your wrong about the gallowgate end

[@nolslifegren]

You havent seen anything . Enough with your lies

[@SKINDEREE]

If you have seen the plans how are they hoping to achieve 82,000 on the current site?, genuine question.

[@nolslifegren]

@@SKINDEREE Hes seen nowt

[@SKINDEREE]

@@nolslifegren So I take it I am not the only one who is becoming sceptical about PIF's take over of Newcastle judging by your comments? Are you also of the opinion that PIF do the same thing Ashley did by being linked with every player under the sun only for none of these deals to ever happen? It seems to me that they are going for players there's no chance of getting to make it look like their proactive in the market along with raising their profile.

[@NUFC2412]

Aye OK of course u have u absolute sausage 😂

[@psmith77271]

Leazes park will never be touched, end of. No where else to build in newcastle really, unless go over towards the airport area

[@damon6544]

All that chaos for 8000 fans. The stadium will be totally lopsided. New 70000 stadium is the answer. All this bollix for a few thousand more. I want a new start. The ground has only seen domestic failure for 70 years and a title for nearly 100.

[@DanielCordone9]

Miguel Almiron is signing a contract extension until he's 37

[@Yama4646r1]

😮😮😮😂

[@paulharrison6373]

New ground is answer, but some where in city

[@krisdeltoro]

Newcastle fans who think we should leave the Toon are completely wrong. We need to stay in the current location. IT’s special and unique..taking the Toon out of the Toon would be criminal.

[@michaelmckie9164]

Castle Leazes is 100m away. Problem solved.

[@antd6993]

So close the Gallowgate and many thousands of Toon fans locked oot for what 2 years to demolish and reconstruct the Gallowgate stand and everyone is happy eh? Oh and divvent forget for an extra how many seats for fans? Corporate$$ get a massive chunk and the club grabs a load to give to members, tourists £ and what about the road being a major ambulance route for the RVI? And the effect on the Toon performance while this is ongoing….😮

[@ThePopImages]

PiF buy the Arena and the land around it. Build a brand new state of the art stadium next to the Tyne. Keeps the stadium central with great access links. Put gigs on at St James Park in the meantime, then Build a new Arena on St James Park once the new stadium is built. Job done, everyone's happy and NUFC win a trophy...!

[@nolslifegren]

Never happen

[@SKINDEREE]

I am starting to think the same myself in regard to this take over. You have to ask yourself the question why none of the residents beside the East Stand have been consulted in any way when there is supposed to be this big feasibility study going on!

[@vinnyvasquez]

You can't built much at one end and not at all at another. Despite that you could get 63,500 but you're still complaining its not enough. You aren't Real Madrid or Man Utd, and are over inflating your popularity. Before Booby Robson was around you had 36,000, not that long ago. Sound like you want a Nou Camp size FFS.

[@andrewanderson2975]

On railway or metro would be easy on engineering point view it already been down in Hudson Yards New York the put support beams in first built skyscraper on top of railway the foundations was put in first without Disruption railway or subway the engineering side will be no problem for PIF dare to dream totally knock down East Stand built new stand tuck pitch to Millburn stand the help more space bigger 3 tier stand with glass front for right to light look Everton new stadium the engineering side is space saving beam neat not like the East Stand back of wasting space

[@christopherkerrigan9225]

Sixty thousand not big enough

[@nolslifegren]

We offered Gordon to Liverpool . Let that sink in ... So much for trying to win anything . Theres no new ground happening . Expect a lick of paint and our best players sold for £££ Welcome to Mike Ashley 2.0

[@IanEckert1977]

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