How 𝘍𝘈𝘚𝘛 can we make a PS5 Pro?

[@AwesomeNbeastMo]

5:06 bob what u doing there lol😂

[@docproof26]

😂 😂 😂 Getting the most out of it 🤷‍♂️

[@hehashivemind6111]

Bob saying “Ice cream so good” was not on my bingo card

[@TheIndulgers]

10:30 The fact that Sony shipped the PSPortal with only wifi 5 shows how much they care about their customer's experience. DF showed that BEST case they got +80ms of additional input latency on top of system latency. That is atrocious.

[@Joshua_Bee]

DB Bob is a great reoccurring character

[@MysteryMii]

13:31 I should probably note that if you're crazy enough to have 10 gig (or really anything faster than gigabit) internet, you will not get 10 gig speeds on your PS5 Pro if you plug it in to that, as it only has a Gigabit Ethernet port. If you have faster than gigabit internet and want to take advantage of those speeds, you're pretty much limited to Wi-Fi in order to do so.

[@chrislamp]

inb4 they release a new patch and start selling ps5 branded usb 10gig cards.

[@Punisher9419]

Powerline adapters work really well, at least they do in the UK. You get ethernet reliability and wifi convenience.

[@just6979]

Super dependent on the home's wiring. I've had good results, shit results, and super inconsistent results, with powerline adapters. Even with the shit results, it was at least nice to not worry about interference from other wifi routers in nearby houses, despite the very slow speeds. but the inconsistent one was the worst: it was sometimes fast, but other times crazy high latency. That latency kept breaking the wired-backhaul setup for my mesh, and I couldn't figure out which appliance was causing the interference. Ended up getting a pair of tri-band routers and doing a dedicated-channel 5Ghz wireless backhaul for the secondary router in bridge mode to get wired ports where I needed them.

[@JerryMeehanJr]

getting close to having a wulff den logo tattooed on my ass

[@Dracossaint]

Please don't

[@MilanStier]

Please don't (2)

[@WhiteWolfTechGaming]

Please do and post a pic for proof

[@connor-bc1wu]

Please do

[@CheesE_BurgeR_MaN__]

Please do

[@dantex2812]

It's kinda crazy to me how my technically 3rd world country has such easy and cheap access to high speed internet. I pay under 20$ per month and I get a solid 600 mb/s experience. Now, Wolf has an insane setup and sure his stuff runs much more stable. But still, with me doing next to nothing we get rather similar results

[@michaela831]

This reminds me of my uncle, posting images of his mount everest trip directly on facebook while at the base camp. Meanwhile in germany you have connectivity issues sometimes even in populated areas 😄

[@staticfade08]

The portal isn't a Wifi 7 device right? So I guess the benefit would be the max "output" from the PS 5 PRO would saturate what the PS Portal can receive on wifi 6.

[@LoganMiller-v9q]

Yay a new WULFF DEN video 🎉

[@just6979]

Most of those big bandwidth numbers don't matter for something like PS5 to PS Portal. They both need to share same channel, it doesn't matter how big the channel is because they both need to take turns. The turns will be over faster since they can transfer more data in a shorter time thanks to the bandwidth, but each device still has to wait for the other device to finish, and this sequential operation adds latency: -PS5 sends frame A to router -router sends frame A to Portal -PS5 sends frame B to router -router sends frame B to Portal Using that separate 6Ghz network, or a separate 5Ghz network on Wifi6 routers with dual 5Ghz radios, to put the PS5 and the Portal on separate channels would be better: -PS5 sends frame A to router -PS5 sends frame B to router, while router sends frame A to Portal -router sends frame B to Portal, while PS5 sends frame C to router It's not really frame by frame, obvi, but you can see how the independent channels allow for parallelization thus decreasing latency: sharing the same channel takes 4 transmissions for 2 "frames", using different channels takes 3 transmissions for 2.5 frames (the extra half is because frame C is already halfway to the Portal after just 3 tranmissions from the PS5) Seperate channels/networks _should_ be effectively close to wired speeds and latency even with WiFi6, but having one side wired is always going to be best because there is always some latency in Wifi, even if only one device is currently on a channel, because the router always needs to be ready for other devices, and that checking takes time. I did the split network thing myself: one 5Ghz radio on my main tri-radio Wifi6 router is basically dedicated to my Steam Deck or my dinky laptop, on a different 5Ghz channel than the 40 other devices in the house. With my PC hardwired into the main router, Steam Remote Play is practically flawless: device to device latency is 1ms! So that's 1ms for inputs to the big rig plus 1ms for frames back to the Deck or laptop, effectively 1/8th of a 60Hz frame of input lag. That's probably a better response than the screen on the laptop! Hmm, now I'm wondering what the hardware input latency is on a Steam Deck...

[@ggarcia4114]

Love the chapters!

[@yochrisnelson]

Legitimately incredible video, you’re too damn funny and you consistently break my brain with some of these edits

[@AndIThinkThisIsIt]

Bob has the best clone bits in the community. Hands down.

[@Nucleosynthese]

I love it when Bob gets a bit nerdy. It's cool that he is getting these prominent PC brand sponsors. You deserve it Bob 👍

[@TynologyGaming]

As someone that splits my time between US and Canada with an ASUS router, it was insane to me that I was able to set up a VPN *while in Canada* and access my home network NAS to pull video files off. That feature alone is worth the cost of entry by far.

[@emerson-biggons7078]

That editing flex right off the rip. Damn

[@TynologyGaming]

I've been waiting for the 0:48 Bob crossover for like a year. Bravo, nailed it 👏

[@brahyamalmonteruiz9984]

5:20 bandwidth? Dude thats the new channel for the wifi communication

[@awesomesauce8151]

I use a T-Mobile home Internet default gateway and 4 consoles connected and no problems so "5 PlayStations at the same time" isnt a flex to be proud of lol

[@delecti]

You should look into powerline ethernet. For some obnoxious reason, my fiber comes into my house in the master bathroom's closet, and running a cable to my TV or office would be ridiculous. Instead there's ethernet between the router and a powerline ethernet adapter, and there are also adapters around my house to receive it. Gets around the wall limitation of Wifi without needing cables lying all over.

[@Hako_exe]

Oooo. 16min video on wifi 7 Gonna pass but hey bro get the bag ya know 😊

[@Hako_exe]

Correction 17:12 second…. Sorry I’m dumb what can I say

[@MattKimura]

I have a WiFi 6e router and my steam deck oled and PC are both WiFi 6 compatible. It really helps me stream between both devices.

[@Dracossaint]

I will point out usually what's the problem with Wi-Fi. Wi-Fi oftentimes could be faster than ethernet. Problem being is there is always a high ping that hits every once in awhile randomly, rather it be from a radio tower, cell phone signal or whatever. That's why sometimes Wi-Fi is not ideal, crosstalk between radio waves. Including Wi-Fi itself interfering

[@HaoToDraw69]

that is definitely the drones on the news

[@edwardgreenjr167]

I understand the sponsor spots. I personally wouldn't get one since their hardware quality and especially customer service is very hit/miss. But I like that more people are going into the nitty gritty on network discussions. Would love to see more vids around the 3d printing adventures.

[@zxe_totinos5267]

Loved the vid but this isn’t really a ps5 video as much as it is a wifi 7 video

[@goodguyalpha4308]

13:23 You forgot to mention the main feature of Wifi 7, Multi Link Operation (MLO) completely, which is the thing used for higher speeds and more stable connection with distance with your device. Also the gaming port segment for 10 gigabit connection to your ps5 was a lie in this case because ps5 and ps5 pro only support 1 gigabit connectivity on a hardware level. In this case it was only 1 gigabit link with a higher QoS value than other devices. So it was misleading a little. Otherwise interesting review and great production quality as always.

[@Weeble_Warbles]

That router isn't scary. What's scary is the amount of unread messages badges on that Twitch and Discord app.

[@namegoeshere197]

I need to stop watching KZbin at 3 am. It took my all way until 8:00 to realize the two people was the same person.

[@CaptainRex332]

My internet speed isn’t even 1 mb a second 🥲

[@VayaVosi]

The ice cream was so good tho

[@ibti7mkhan]

Dude chill 5:05

[@moises32123]

Bro finally heard us and changed his router 🤣

[@boomerps2]

5:06 what did you just do to that "huge" antenna??????

[@dannymolina5549]

Love the wifi 7 plug. Nobody uses wifi for online gaming lmao

[@ManLikeBon]

What are you doing to those antennas Bob?

[@eywrong]

Have you looked into powerline adapters?

[@davidmulcahy8548]

I use tp link power links to get a hard line into my office/game room. I use a second router and an Ethernet switch then in the office. Impacts the speed but ping and stability are much better. Probably overkill.

[@greenprotag]

"This isn't going to make me a PS portal fan, I still rather play it on a dedicated device" Sure...until you realize that streaming to a PS portal OR streaming from a PC to say a G-cloud or other android handheld running arm will mean that the battery for said device will probably last for several hours. I love my steam deck, but streaming to my G-cloud means I can have 2 or 3 long play sessions completely off charger... while my poor steam deck can barely get more than a few hours on an Indy game before screaming for it's charger...

[@robbygoodale]

BOB I LOV EYOUR SKITS!

[@hong_kong_phooey]

Someone needs to introduce Mr. Wulff to UniFi.

[@hrw7978]

THE GAMING PORT 🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥

[@GalactusTheDestroyer]

My PS5 works great on my Wi-Fi 6e router. Plenty of speed and on on the second floor.

[@Diehlornodiehl]

$700 for a router?! That can't be worth it.

[@brokenm4n]

Doesn’t the PS5 have an ethernet port ?

[@lorddeecee]

Did you not watch the video ?

[@BearApps]

PS5 Pro still just likes like a PS5 with some kind of cheap replacement fins on it.

[@Cream_Sleaze]

funny shit dood Like actually funny and entertaining thank you

[@Xzi-izx]

Excuse me, what did you do to that poor router's antenna?

[@Skywardsaiyan]

Bob learning to use shadow clone jutsu was the best thing to happen to his videos

[@Map_of_Your_Head]

what actually fully utilizes wifi 7 today lol

[@flamewave64]

5:06

[@kingzombie951]

I think Wi-Fi 6 is already pretty fast I'm fine with that. My pc motherboard either has Wi-Fi 6 or Wi-Fi 5 can't rember pretty good x570 board for only $200 dollors. Also Wi-Fi 6 was pretty new when I bought my pc. My Wi-Fi is ass so I don't even fully use it

[@Kng__Wzrd]

Aye yo @bob 5:06

[@racingaerials4493]

Ayy my Odin 2 has wifi 7 😁

[@blakerenimu9033]

4:20: Ok HOW???? I've been researching online and ive found nothing and i really need to fix that specifically 😅 Also please don't molest the antenna of Mr Sith Lord?

[@bjorngerlach7829]

Can private citizens buy connections faster than 1Gbit/s in the US? If you can’t , then you don’t need WiFi7

[@MoreTechSir]

Still waiting for you to make a ps5😂

[@FederalBureau_OfInvestigations]

Mm ice cream so good lmao

[@thegodofeyes2712]

The only way to make it fast is to sell it and buy a PC.

[@lorddeecee]

This one’s for the comment section, no one cares that you don’t like asus. It’s already weird enough you clicked on this video to comment that.

[@dustinb9420]

My WiFi is 44mb per second. No need for WiFi 7 here.

[@TACALACA]

$700 for a router! 😂😂😂

[@jodiemcclure7854]

bahb called me a nark 😅

[@Nordin-f1q]

bro ps5 and ps5 pro will never get those theoretical speeds because there is more to it than your wifi protocol lol cpu is very important too and i doubt cpus exist right now that can go anywhere near those speeds

[@doomy_doomy2225]

How is this better than a mesh network?

[@pfcokelly]

Virtual desktop users 😍🤤

[@memphisreines]

If only Playstation would way overkill on the things really that matter.

[@milkywayxd1803]

Just buyed that router it was good deal 419 XD I have 2,5gb down 1gb up my kabel company gives 8,5gb down 5gb up I dont need it its so expensive 200 a month

[@awsom82]

"old wifi 6" lol, you just not set it properly

[@Reclusive_x]

Im 90% sure that router is going to file a complaint to HR

[@SmashBrosmike85]

This is so… stoopid. $799.99 for a router is just, no. Just, no.

[@humanash1]

$666 yeah good luck everyone. this price is a joke

[@Renzo_Benzo]

lost me at asus

[@ActNasty5]

Yeah my asus mobo sucks lol

[@RiZeLegiT]

asus products have always been good to me and they look cool

[@dualie-dude-42]

​@RiZeLegiT i have always liked asus products but they have proven that they are not to be trusted for warranty. Look at the rog ally SD card debacle. My unit has horrible coil whine.

[@theunknown7441]

I like asus, their laptop are good to me, asus and Lenovo are the few companies I still trust when it comes to laptop.

[@Stalinfalcon]

I dunno, I guess it’s a question of YMMV? 🤷‍♂️ I’ve been an Asus user for a long time, laptops, router, OG Ally. My win 8 era laptop has quirks but it’s still running strong. Don’t know what to tell ya…

[@RU46N2]

Dude it's 799 no thank you in less you want to send me one.

[@BESToftheWEST8]

ur ads are the only ones i watch especially after that one ad w the baby version of u i try lookin 4 tha5 vid w it but 2 no avail help me shiet Gad me lol

[@snake098765]

Disappointed. Only 30 gigabits 😢😔. We need at the very least 5 billion terabits to play dorknight

[@fena0701]

could it be a litle bit uglier?

[@erlendode]

Sus 8:51

[@Nabalazs]

As much as this is a fun video to watch, maaaan are Asus's taking points ever terrible. Horrible explanations of why bigger wifi number betterer. Or who and why would want to buy this. I mean, it's still a ballin' router, and it will do good for you. In the same way as you can go grocery shopping in a sports car. You could have done it smarter, but it will just brute force solve all your issues. If you had any in the first place.

[@Seirra54]

I don't think the term "VLAN" was said once, despite half of the video being devoted to features that are possible thanks to VLANs. Most of the features that this includes are actually super useful (VLANs can be a nightmare to manage if you mess it up) if you need them. VPN at the router level and hosting your own VPN server are tools I use every day, but I didn't think they were that important until I had a use case for them. The only "big" thing about this router outside of speed are the automated VLAN generation. It looks cool, but I can't imagine the default configs are that good.

[@Kng__Wzrd]

It’s Thursday my dude 🕷️ ahhhhhhhhh

[@connor-bc1wu]

WANT

[@banemitic]

What a load of crap.

[@Tintin_desi_billa]

How fast can I burn 700 dollars?

[@PeacockLover127]

you know its slower than real ps5, right?

[@xkooolmanx]

How so?

[@pobbityboppity1110]

Professionals move slower and with more purpose

[@fellasplease]

big yoshi at mcdonald’s on the 3DS😭😭💀💀

[@awesomesauce8151]

I use a T-Mobile home Internet default gateway and 4 consoles connected and no problems so "5 PlayStations at the same time" isnt a flex to be proud of lol