There are a lot of things to say about this PS5 Pro...

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@ishe_we_zimbabwe
@ishe_we_zimbabwe 2 ай бұрын
PS4 Pro was the same price as the base PS4’s launch price and the base ps4 got a price cut too. Conversely, the PS5 Pro is substantially more expensive whilst not having a disc drive and the PS5 didn’t even get a price cut. Horrible deal.
@EnyoTaiz
@EnyoTaiz 2 ай бұрын
And PS4 pro still sold horribly with that strategy. Only 13% of ps4 in the US were pro versions. Even in 2024 you can barely build a PC with USED parts to match the 4 year old PS5's performance at its current Disc version MSRP, not to mention even trying to build a pc to match the price/performance of a used PS5, which can be found for under $300. PS5 and PS5 pro are OBJECTIVELY good deals in a pure price to performance standpoint, both new and used. LinusTechTips, among other youtubers, have done videos building a "PS5 Killer" to compete with normal and Pro versions of the PS5, and many take shortcuts, even when buying used parts, to compete with Playstation. I don't even own a PS5 but to just LIE about them not a good deal is objectively wrong. Is Sony just supposed to give people a free upgrade and lose tons of money? Let me know when any of the PC companies like AMD or Nvidia give you a free upgrade.
@bloadstar
@bloadstar 2 ай бұрын
​@@EnyoTaizpc gamer here to give my few cents. When you do a price up front, in one session of money spending, then yes, ps5/pro is cheaper than pc. When you begin to compare pricing over time (ps+, $70 games, rare sales on games, used disc marketplace + single seller marketplace (ps store)) things start to change. While the examples are mentioned for console, I have been: -saving money yearly on not having to pay for a membership to play online ($80+ /yr) -get games discounted through steam, EA/Origin, Epic, uplay, GOG, AND third party marketplaces such as g2a, cdkeys, greenmangaming, gamesplanet, etc Spending $1300 on a pc, year after year for let's say 7 years, you save approximately $500-700 on annual memberships. 700 for a console, you'll have for 5-7 years isn't just $700. It's roughly $1300 for that time frame. Discounts on games? You're pretty much locked down to retailer sales for games, used games marketplace (if you have a disc), or the sales ps store offers. What pc does NOT offer is a simple, out of the box solution for "will it work?". PC is more complicated, yes. But putting in the effort to work and learn will yield good gain in my personal opinion. "what about the pro having better performance for $700?"- well it's using a form of FSR/DLSS/AFMF/frame generation. Which already exists on pc. So they're doing the same thing to look good/better. If you want simple, console is the way to go. If you want to save more over the long run, pc is the place. But this is exactly why it's fantastic we have these options. So we have more choices. Long live gaming!
@NoGoodNameHelpPLZ
@NoGoodNameHelpPLZ 2 ай бұрын
Ps5 actually got a price increase in pretty much the whole world except for the us
@dorf7219
@dorf7219 2 ай бұрын
@@EnyoTaiz its called a loss leader. what they lose in console sales they more than make up for in games sales
@OmegaDenz96
@OmegaDenz96 2 ай бұрын
PS5 actually got a price cut. was that around $395? but only up until December iirc.
@Soapy_Papoose
@Soapy_Papoose 2 ай бұрын
My biggest take away is Bob needs a new capture card.
@mac1bc
@mac1bc 2 ай бұрын
And new tv
@7thHourFilms
@7thHourFilms 2 ай бұрын
People are paying $700+ to *look* at Spider-Man instead of *playing* Spider-Man.
@Tintin_desi_billa
@Tintin_desi_billa 2 ай бұрын
I mean, you can't really play spiderman without looking at it
@LegacyRap7777
@LegacyRap7777 2 ай бұрын
Brain dead Statement
@Roof_Pizza
@Roof_Pizza 2 ай бұрын
The upcharge is worth it in the long run, people are just salty that they have the OG one already.
@LegacyRap7777
@LegacyRap7777 2 ай бұрын
@Roof_Pizza facts bro, that's exactly what it is.
@dylansandoval9841
@dylansandoval9841 2 ай бұрын
In the long run? We'll be seeing the next generation before the end of the decade and they couldnt even take advantage of the original hardware. ​@Roof_Pizza
@perpetualcollapse
@perpetualcollapse 2 ай бұрын
I’ve spent more time watching people talk about the PS5 Pro than I have spent actually playing on my PS5 Pro…
@AloushMan
@AloushMan 2 ай бұрын
Damn this hits hard.. lol. So far the only game I’ve played on the pro is last of us 1.. games like Spider-Man, ff7 rebirth and etc.. were all played on the ps5 without any issues. Of course aside from how ff7 rebirth looked, but after a while you adjust. Are you thinking of returning it? A part of me is thinking of returning, but I feel like in a couple of months I’ll want it again lol. I managed to only pay $300 (including my ps5 base trade in and gift card)
@TheSoxor123
@TheSoxor123 2 ай бұрын
I highly recommend Stellar Blade.
@AloushMan
@AloushMan 2 ай бұрын
@@TheSoxor123 definitely need to try it out! I have a really good desktop and heard it’s coming on pc. So debating between waiting or playing it on the ps5 pro
@AloushMan
@AloushMan 2 ай бұрын
@briandprice81 mehhh I don’t know. I randomly go into these weird spirals. One day want to return and not using it, and stick to my high end pc.. then another day all I want is the ps5 lol. I don’t think I will return it, due to the fact I know myself when it comes to tech, which I love. In a couple of weeks or even months, I’ll be like.. damn I want the ps5 pro again
@TheSoxor123
@TheSoxor123 2 ай бұрын
​@AloushMan I would wait for the PC version, TBH. Mods are going to be insane.
@ultraviolet2497
@ultraviolet2497 2 ай бұрын
The touryst runs at 8k "internal" but outputs at 4K, so if you had an 8K screen you'd still only be getting a 4k signal
@ThatOneDudeWhoPostsStuff
@ThatOneDudeWhoPostsStuff 2 ай бұрын
What's even the fucking point then?
@M_CFV
@M_CFV 2 ай бұрын
Which is really good since it would be a layer of SSAA, super sampling. No more blurry TAA slop, DLSS not needed either (devs have to flip those switches on console obv)
@TheRealBOBlibob
@TheRealBOBlibob 2 ай бұрын
@@M_CFV It's good, but native 8K on an 8K display would still look sharper. Sony have been lying by putting 8K on the box of the base PS5. PS5 Pro can do 8K 60Hz with only 32Gbps of bandwidth because of DSC. There's no reason the base PS5 shouldn't be able to do the same. Though, I have to admit that the main reason I'm complaining is because I want my PS5 to do 4K HDR 120Hz with no chroma subsampling.
@KBXband
@KBXband 2 ай бұрын
Jeez how sharp do you need it to be???
@merathe9391
@merathe9391 Ай бұрын
@@TheRealBOBlibobSony put 4k and 8k because of the hdmi 2.1 capabilities. It’s a marketing tactic. Naive of you to think that a $500 box can perform the same as a high end pc
@DM-20XX
@DM-20XX 2 ай бұрын
Consoles used to be the opposite of this. Simple plug and play, moving data like moving an object (remember memory cards?), buying, collecting or renting games. Now I feel like even PC is easier: savedata usually can be copied to any USB drive, games default to settings for my system, online is mostly free, you can mod the games, and most "limits" can be broken or have a workaround. Meanwhile consoles are just becoming harder to use in the name of subscription services and the fear that someone find a way to jailbreak the system using an USB drive.
@jordanrayo2425
@jordanrayo2425 2 ай бұрын
Well Sony is well out of luck cause ps5 has been jailbroken luckily for Microsoft they are secure and we have dev mode for emulation.
@Moli05
@Moli05 2 ай бұрын
I mean most people don't really care about any of that
@hardkore360
@hardkore360 2 ай бұрын
​@@Moli05the transfer rates are just such a pain in the ass, can they get with the times? It's 2024 and their transfer speeds are still stuck in the 90s
@TheSkruds
@TheSkruds 2 ай бұрын
They are still way simpler than a pc. So they are relatively still plug and play. PC is definitely not easier and jail breaking a console makes it so you can not access online services so people don’t do it as often and when they do it’s usually a second console they don’t care about or don’t use anymore
@zjisgod
@zjisgod 2 ай бұрын
What???😂😂😂 yall pc crackheads are really losin your minds
@ThatLovelyRose
@ThatLovelyRose 2 ай бұрын
Let's pay our respects to "YAHUNGRY50".... You were a real one 😭
@ItsErin286
@ItsErin286 2 ай бұрын
It will be missed Fr😮‍💨😔
@clark2109
@clark2109 2 ай бұрын
That save transfer issue is a microcosm of why I gave up my PS5 last year for a PC handheld. The $80 PS Plus upcharge to do basically anything is such a scam.
@mikesaintjulesmusic
@mikesaintjulesmusic Ай бұрын
You know you could use a flash drive right?
@mareksinister
@mareksinister 2 ай бұрын
The worst thing is that it's close to 1000€ in europe. 799€ for the console, probably 80€ for the drive (still not being sold where I live) and now add ps+ and one game for 70€...
@piensluc7444
@piensluc7444 2 ай бұрын
Drive in Europe Belgium 119 euro
@tredfxman
@tredfxman 2 ай бұрын
I hate the fact that the PS5's (all of them) are so Flimsy & cant stand properly! - My PS4 PRO is so sturdy, with weight & this can easily & safetly stand both horisontally & vertically without any stand... 👍
@JeskidoYT
@JeskidoYT 2 ай бұрын
@@tredfxman yeah but that ps4 is super wasteful in wasting too much electricity and as much heat as a dehumidifier
@ich_16
@ich_16 2 ай бұрын
bro were i live 900$ w/out diskdrive and you cant find one and if you find it gets the total to 1100$ 💀
@m1ll1on4r3
@m1ll1on4r3 2 ай бұрын
In Germany the asking price for the drive is 119 € incl. tax. But you won’t find the drive. It’s out of stock.
@wettuga2762
@wettuga2762 2 ай бұрын
Needs clips for horizontal placement, needs stand for vertical placement. Who the hell designed this thing?!?
@SIPEROTH
@SIPEROTH 2 ай бұрын
It doesn't need anything for vertical placement. It stands just fine, or are you planning to be kicking your console? If you have a disk drive on it is even more sturdy.
@jovianmelendez
@jovianmelendez 2 ай бұрын
​@@SIPEROTH I'm not but my cats probably are.
@SIPEROTH
@SIPEROTH 2 ай бұрын
@@jovianmelendez If your cats get close contact encounters with your console then a stand won't save you.
@ulischmidt03
@ulischmidt03 2 ай бұрын
​@@SIPEROTH solution? Get rid of the cat.
@Call_MeJD
@Call_MeJD 2 ай бұрын
"I'm not buying that game a second time." *I need to stop doing this!*
@atrielienz
@atrielienz 2 ай бұрын
I only do this when I want to support the dev, but I buy a lot of indie games. It's not worth it for most games in my opinion, especially when you're paying $60-80 for a game.
@RKramer105
@RKramer105 2 ай бұрын
OLED > 8K all day
@mrfixite
@mrfixite 2 ай бұрын
I want an OLED deck soo bad. But I can't justify it since my current LCD is working just fine. Guess I'll just wait like 2-5 years for a deck 2 hopefully comes with an OLED stock.
@RKramer105
@RKramer105 2 ай бұрын
@briandprice81 Sadly, I've wanted one ever since the XEL-1 but now I've got the family so I can't justify $1000+ for a decent one but best believe as soon as they come down to $500-650 I'll be getting two. Sooo right now the answer is the iPhone 13 and the PS Vita lol here's hoping the next Steam Deck and Switch come standard!
@RKramer105
@RKramer105 2 ай бұрын
@@mrfixite We are in the EXACT SAME BOAt! Hurts! :-p
@chefman470
@chefman470 2 ай бұрын
Agree 100%. I feel like the PS5 Pro really shines if you get a good TV to play it on. I play on a LG OLED with 120hz, the improvements the Pro brings to games on my TV is so good.
@NicLarcher
@NicLarcher 2 ай бұрын
@@mrfixiteis oled reall that much better yeah? I’ve never seen one
@DisturbedbyDeth
@DisturbedbyDeth 2 ай бұрын
I'll... stick with my PS5 (and my decent PC) and wait for the PS6.
@HugeBigness
@HugeBigness 2 ай бұрын
100% the PS5 Pro is an absolutely AWFUL product - 4 years after XSX/PS5, the pro is worth £400-450 and the base consoles £300-350.
@pieceofschmidtgamer
@pieceofschmidtgamer 2 ай бұрын
The problem with 8K (and higher resolutions in general) is multifaceted. 1) It's only been within the last few years (so within this console generation) that consoles have been able to take advantage of native 4K and not up-scaled nonsense and even on PC consistent 4K is largely limited to the higher end with some lower end cards being able to do some 4K with easier to run games. 2) I have a sneaking suspicion that most people don't own a 4K TV so they wouldn't even be able to take advantage of 4K anyway. Certainly most PC gamers don't have 4K monitors, with most being at 1080p. 3) To properly take advantage of higher resolutions you need to have the corresponding graphical textures for that resolution and the problem with that is file size. 4K is already ridiculous in terms of file size and I don't even want to contemplate what 8K would be like. 4) The higher the resolution, the bigger the minimum size of the display needs to be able to notice the difference. Honestly, high resolutions are basically this generation's equivalent to console manufacturers debating over "bits". Generally, I think over the next decade you're going to see higher resolutions fall to the way side. I think even 4K is going to fall to the way side. Especially if this general trend toward handheld gaming because high resolutions on handheld is dumb, even if battery life and performance wasn't an issue.
@michaelsuezo
@michaelsuezo 2 ай бұрын
#2 is accurate. being a casual gamer i have felt no need to buy a 4K TV and those i know don't have as well.
@PhantomC027
@PhantomC027 2 ай бұрын
Might be a dumb idea but it would be great to see more appeal to 4K gaming TVs. With the PS5's multitasking capabilities, I wonder if it would be possible to run two lower graphic games simultaneously if it were supported software side, and then send the audio to separate controller's headphone jacks(headphones) based on who logged in to each instance/window. That way, 2 people could enjoy PlayStation classics at once and sell more TVs. Welp, not how it works now for sure, and PC/Windows 4K support leaves something to be desired. :I
@GamingProspector84
@GamingProspector84 2 ай бұрын
4k resolution actually “shrinks” the overall image necessitating a larger (tv) display. My tv is 4k 55’ but I have it set to 1440p for majority of my games because the difference is barely noticeable from 4k. Majority of PC gamers still play at 1080p and most common gpu ≈equivalent is a 2070.
@PSYCHOV3N0M
@PSYCHOV3N0M 2 ай бұрын
​@@michaelsuezoThat's because you're a casual gamer. That simple.
@PSYCHOV3N0M
@PSYCHOV3N0M 2 ай бұрын
​@@PhantomC027 That's the dumbest idea of 2024. 🤣🤣🤣
@gnosis7188
@gnosis7188 2 ай бұрын
I remember when most content creators were stating for years, we would never get a PS5 Pro console as it was deemed unnecessary. Welp, here we are, "Sony said, " Hold my beer, we got this." I was actually really eager to see what new amazing tech would be in the Pro, IMO its a great time to buy a PS5 slim , they are widely available, and for $500 bucks you cant go wrong. Im sticking with my OG fat PS5 widebody , im more than satisfied with the performance, especially since I just upgraded to a brand new 55-inch 120hz 4K OLED TV. Im actually shocked how many consumers actually fell for the marketing and shelled out nearly $800 bucks for such minute upgrades. Oh, and the dreamcast guy selling his used ps5 pro to his " girlfriend " for $500 to upgrade to the Pro is absolutely priceless. Im not a PC gamer, nor will I ever be, but this new mid gen upgrade is lackluster, to say the least. I may get a steamdeck , that thing looks amazing , and I can play games outside of the PS ecosystem. people are free to spend their money on how they deem fit, but I certainly won't be one of them. I think it also hurts us as consumers going forward. I can honestly see a future where the ps6 launches at $800 bucks retail because Sony saw how many people bought the pro at this price point.
@arachnid_eater
@arachnid_eater Ай бұрын
I just bought a steamdeck recently and i definitely reccomend. You should definitely get the oled model, the screen is so crisp.
@makasete30
@makasete30 12 күн бұрын
While I agree with your points to an extent-most people don’t need this upgrade-, I am glad I didn’t listen to all the negative criticisms. I’ve been really happy with the pro so far. As a Final Fantasy fan, FF7 Rebirth has been a significant improvement- the performance mode on the ps5 slim was like having Vaseline smudged over the screen. Stellar Blade has also been greatly enhanced to my eyes. PS4 games like Gravity rush have a noticeable improvement in quality, particularly in clearer text and backgrounds. I think even the most minor improvements have been a pleasant surprise like Metaphore maintaining a smooth 60fps. The Pro has always been for PlayStation enthusiasts who do notice these improvements. Most certainly won’t notice it or need it as you said. I do feel moving forward that a number of games are going to struggle on the base PS5 such as GTA6. The argument for the pro then becomes more compelling. I like my steam deck but it struggles with AAA games sometimes, and heats up with the battery taking a hit, plus it’s on the heavy side. a number of games haven’t worked as they should, either, and I had to do some fiddling with settings which was still unsatisfactory. The steam deals are fantastic though and like playing my PC games on a long commutes. My point is that every platform has drawbacks, and if you are going to criticize the pro a you have to acknowledge it does have strong advantages that people like myself prioritize. I far prefer the portal though (yes, I have money to burn!) when playing portably with my PS games. Plus, physical versions are importantly to me and it’s nice to pick up cheap copies that are often cheaper than the deals online for digital. The lack of disk drive is inexcusable, though. Overall, as you said it’s not for you and many others, but I’m really pleased I got it.
@jat9926
@jat9926 2 ай бұрын
I still appreciate your one man plays in lieu of traditional ad breaks so good.
@billytk1225
@billytk1225 2 ай бұрын
Regarding the stand and instability. Everyone joked about the shape of the XBox Series X when it released, but being square/rectangular it didn't require any stand regardless of the orientation and it's rock solid no tipping worries.
@GothikaGeist
@GothikaGeist 2 ай бұрын
actually it has a circular built in stand on the bottom when placed vertically.
@tredfxman
@tredfxman 2 ай бұрын
I hate the fact that the PS5's (all of them) are so Flimsy & cant stand properly! - My PS4 PRO is so sturdy, with weight & this can easily & safetly stand both horisontally & vertically without any stand... 👍
@ChicagoBulls1984
@ChicagoBulls1984 2 ай бұрын
PS5 Pro does not need a stand. It is flat on the bottom, and gravity keeps it in place.
@PSYCHOV3N0M
@PSYCHOV3N0M 2 ай бұрын
Of course it's rock solid because it's basically a paperweight. PC for the win!
@JAFOpty
@JAFOpty 2 ай бұрын
I'll just wait for Steam Deck 2
@dragoon1090
@dragoon1090 2 ай бұрын
You gonna be waiting awhile.
@JAFOpty
@JAFOpty 2 ай бұрын
@@dragoon1090 it's ok
@shepardcommander9960
@shepardcommander9960 2 ай бұрын
@@dragoon1090 I'm also waiting for a Steam Deck 2 and am fully prepared to wait another 2-3 years for one. I want the current model but I want Valve to keep polishing up the handheld experience for a few more years and make more and more games Linux compatible first. I already have a gaming pc and a base ps5 so I'm good for the time being. The only thing holding me back on buying the current Steam Deck is the fact it's 3 years old and I do not like buying consoles mid-gen or late-gen because for me it's a waste of money when a new thing is on the horizon.
@billable1861
@billable1861 2 ай бұрын
@@shepardcommander9960I was just gifted one and I can confirm it’s worth the wait. It feels cheap, the battery life isn’t there yet. It is a really neat experience but I have much more fun and less stress with my switch.
@Adamtendo_player_1
@Adamtendo_player_1 Ай бұрын
@@shepardcommander9960Switch 2 will eat steam deck 2 for lunch, breakfast and dinner 🤣🤣🤣
@Punisher6791
@Punisher6791 2 ай бұрын
this upgrade cycle feels like that internet meme where the person is asked if there is a difference between two photo's and the person just tells them these two pictures are the same.
@Croc.
@Croc. 2 ай бұрын
That's a good internet meme
@opx4real
@opx4real 2 ай бұрын
What's better than an overused meme? A poor recollection of one. 👌
@NicolausFile-d6l
@NicolausFile-d6l 2 ай бұрын
I don't know why games can not be optimised better especially games on unreal 5 they look great but seem to be very hard to run on consoles. Playing battlefield 5 lately reminds me how good games looked without being super complicated so seeing as how an engine like that works great why can't they use ones like that and make slight improvements rather than always pushing boundaries as that seems to cause more problems than it is impressive to look at
@godhimself1128
@godhimself1128 2 ай бұрын
Dude i wish I could forget the office existed too 😂
@ToyKeeper
@ToyKeeper 2 ай бұрын
In this case, with limitations of youtube and capture cards and stuff... they're literally the same picture.
@nintendork07
@nintendork07 2 ай бұрын
looked around this morning for prices of launch PS5s & found them regularly at $300. such a better deal, saving $500. games look very similar at a normal viewing distance and it has a disc drive.
@tredfxman
@tredfxman 2 ай бұрын
I hate the fact that the PS5's (all of them) are so Flimsy & cant stand properly! - My PS4 PRO is so sturdy, with weight & this can easily & safetly stand both horisontally & vertically without any stand... 👍
@HCIbn
@HCIbn 2 ай бұрын
@@tredfxmanshut up clown! Base PS5 quality mode @30fps 😂😂😂 Have fun for the next 4 years
@sammcj2000
@sammcj2000 2 ай бұрын
The PS5 Pro is $1200 in Australia! More than a second hand RTX 3090 + Ryzen CPU + Mobo 😮, and $200 more than the steam deck OLED.
@hardkore360
@hardkore360 2 ай бұрын
What?!?!?! 😮😮😮😮😮😮
@timtams5283
@timtams5283 2 ай бұрын
Holy maccaroni Batman!
@kellenboon8776
@kellenboon8776 2 ай бұрын
Bob, I love you man. I’ve been watching you for many years and I love your opinions and the way you think. I was shouting “yes” and “amen” during your rant on HDR and PS4 USB transfer and 8K. Tell em! Love you Bob, thanks for making great reviews and videos of all the stuff I care about ❤
@DogCheese420
@DogCheese420 2 ай бұрын
People always talk about the graphics, but for me it’s the improved frame rates. Several games would drop frames on the original model that are nearly locked now. The added resolution bump is just the cherry on top.
@victorvargas9330
@victorvargas9330 2 ай бұрын
Keyword: "nearly"
@jonfin1017
@jonfin1017 2 ай бұрын
I mean yeah pretty much going forward with consoles it’s gonna be improved performance we’re hitting a ceiling with graphics at least for now
@dylansandoval9841
@dylansandoval9841 2 ай бұрын
@DogCheese420 lmao wut? A little bit of drops in a game isn't the end of the world. And besides it's more of an optimization issue. Buying a whole new piece of tech for this little bit of gain is just hiding terrible dev work.
@smcdonough1427
@smcdonough1427 2 ай бұрын
bro if you care about framerate, and you should if you like games, you should just be playing on PC with a high refresh rate monitor
@zeroday87
@zeroday87 2 ай бұрын
You get framerate drops on pc as well. Or the pc just might crash altogether if the settings aren't right. ​@@smcdonough1427
@DennisMII
@DennisMII 2 ай бұрын
You can transfer PS5 save files via USB by doing a system backup then restore to the pro. I did it. I also have a 55” 4k 120hz OLED that is about 9-10 feet away from my couch where I game. I can notice a difference in image quality. 🤷🏻‍♂️
@Call_MeJD
@Call_MeJD 2 ай бұрын
18:37 - Being forced to pay for PS Plus to transfer PS5 save files is CRIMINAL!
@kilerscn
@kilerscn 2 ай бұрын
Or you know, transfer them when you transfer everything else. Or use a USB drive like everybody has to.
@Call_MeJD
@Call_MeJD 2 ай бұрын
@@kilerscn if you want keep them both, first option won’t work. it’s mentioned that you can’t use a usb drive to transfer ps5 game saves. That only works for ps4 games.
@kilerscn
@kilerscn 2 ай бұрын
@@Call_MeJD you can transfer saves with backup and restore.
@eznosnopes5276
@eznosnopes5276 2 ай бұрын
Backup and restore will erase your console.
@hardkore360
@hardkore360 2 ай бұрын
​​@@kilerscnThose are excuses 😂😂😂😂 mainly because you are on console, I thought console was simple, no brainer hardware, yet you have to connect USB drives like a PC? 😂😂😂😂😂 Just get a gaming PC then and avoid all this BS
@vb7200
@vb7200 Ай бұрын
I got myself a PS5 Pro the day they came out, I was actually surprised I was able to just walk in a store and buy one. Anyway, I jumped to it from a launch PS4 and I’m very happy with it. I had thought about just getting a slim but I decided to go with the Pro for future proofing essentially. The console generations overlap more today than they ever have, there is legitimately no good reason to get even a PS5 if you have a base PS4 that works, it still plays almost all of the games out right now. It’s. It the best experience, but if you’re a casual gamer that is really all you need. Even better if you’ve got a Pro. If I can get 8-10 years out of the this PS5 Pro like I did my PS4, I’ll be happy. The way things are going, I think I can even surpass that. We’ll see.
@dannonyogurt98
@dannonyogurt98 2 ай бұрын
People also seem to forget that the PS4 pro launched at $400 and was only $100 more than the base model. I can't believe people are buying this at $700. Oh and the PS4 pro had a disk drive. Edit: Read the replies if you want some entertainment laughing at Simps trying to justify overpaying for weak hardware. Meanwhile my old 3080 is still running rings around them.
@ramanchaudhary2518
@ramanchaudhary2518 2 ай бұрын
They aren’t selling the console for a loss this time, the gpu is closest to 7800xt which goes for £470 rest of the parts would make it 600 ~700 it seems they are selling it for break even or a slight profit
@DeesBees85
@DeesBees85 2 ай бұрын
Have you heard about inflation my friend? It’s been a really big story for years now. The base PS5 is now $450. The Pro is absolutely worth the extra $250 when you consider it’s got double the storage and can make games look and run better.
@senorsnipey1595
@senorsnipey1595 2 ай бұрын
The difference in power is more significant with the 5 pro and the system comes with 2tb instead of 1tb on the 4 pro. Keeping in mind that games were about the same size back then so you really had to do the shuffle
@extra4542
@extra4542 2 ай бұрын
I don’t like the price either but you can’t expect the same $100 more price for what you’re getting + inflation + not selling at a loss. With that said not including a disk drive + stand is still very scummy
@arianadonis4099
@arianadonis4099 2 ай бұрын
They also seem to forget the PS3 was $600...which is close to 1k by today's prices.
@kevnosity
@kevnosity Ай бұрын
I just bought one and although I didn’t need it , I wanted the best tech out there for the platform. If you have extra money and play your PlayStation religiously then I’d say get it. Do what makes u happy .
@DanDaMaN95cov
@DanDaMaN95cov 2 ай бұрын
Yeah im regretting my purchase. Upgraded from the base PS4. Cant even get a disc drive in Australia
@bloodless653
@bloodless653 2 ай бұрын
I regards to save transferring without using cloud (paying), you actually can do it. I used an external hard drive and back up my original system, which included PS4 and PS5 save data, and then went into the system settings on the Pro and restored from the backup. I didn't do the direct transfer from old to new because I traded in my old system toward the Pro. It is still incredibly ridiculous that the process is that convoluted just to move your save data from system to system.
@delonejuanderer
@delonejuanderer 2 ай бұрын
The console ecosystem as a whole is absolutely awful. Online? Pay for it. Cloud saves? Pay for it. Gpu upgrade? Replace your entire console lmao.
@smcdonough1427
@smcdonough1427 2 ай бұрын
Yup, and console players have such severe stockholm syndrome that they're out here defending these corporations lmao
@watchmehope6560
@watchmehope6560 2 ай бұрын
I wonder how the ecosystem would be if console gamers had a backbone. Still can't believe they think its a flex to pay for online...
@williammiller3277
@williammiller3277 2 ай бұрын
One reason I have no interest in a ps5 pro or ps6. PCs are WAY cheaper and more powerful long term. Cheaper games and way less nickle and diming for feature. It really adds up. And with less and less to almost no console exclusives anymore, just why?
@delonejuanderer
@delonejuanderer 2 ай бұрын
@williammiller3277 couldn't agree more! After going to pc all my consoles have collected dust, so much so I just sold all of them this last Thursday because I dont use them at all anymore. I've even converted a couple buddies into pc gamers themselves.
@SIPEROTH
@SIPEROTH 2 ай бұрын
Is not that bad. You don't need cloud saves. I don't use cloud saves. You can save on the console and back up your saves in an external disc. If you are not interested in playing any multiplayer component for most games then you don't need to pay the online ether. Especially if you only play online with free online games since you can still play those without paying. I play mostly single player and the few main online games i play are free to play games so i don't really need any other online functionality that much. Even when i pay for online i just find the cheaper offer available. Now i have a year of PS plus essential that only payed 50 for. Less than 5 each month. I am not rich and that is not even noticeable even for my pocket and if you play some of the games offered then you kind of get your money back(i am now playing Dead Space Remake that was just given last month with Essential) even if you see them as long term rentals and not actually having the game which is fair way to look at it, we gave about as much just renting a game or two for the weekend from shops back in the day.
@Goblue734
@Goblue734 2 ай бұрын
I can tell you right now I have an RTX 4090 PC and that’s my primary system and but still very impressed by this PS5 Pro I wasn’t sure how I was gonna feel about it but it’s definitely going to have a spot in my living room! A lot of people are gonna say that they don’t see a difference and it’s not worth it and that’s not who this is targeting. It’s for the enthusiast and if you know, then you know, but for people who know there’s definitely a difference from the base PS5. Especially paired with my 65 inch Samsung QD OLED spider-Man looks so damn gorgeous.
@maximumyt2857
@maximumyt2857 2 ай бұрын
I appreciate you went into depth with some of the dumb stuff about the hdmi spec and save data, not just how it performs
@teamvass
@teamvass 2 ай бұрын
Not me watching this on a MacBook then get called out mid video to watch on a MacBook only to realize I was already watching in HDR and didn't realize. Good lookin video!
@Ice_2192
@Ice_2192 2 ай бұрын
12:46 Spidey was like “Excuse me? Pisser”?
@TheDreamOfATree
@TheDreamOfATree 2 ай бұрын
The last of us 2 remastered on the pro looks almost lifelike in some parts. Its unreal.
@MisterSouji
@MisterSouji 2 ай бұрын
Better use of funds... get a Sega Dreamcast. It has more exclusives than the ps5. And you dont need to drop $10 a month to transfer saves.😊
@890Jacob
@890Jacob 2 ай бұрын
The Dreamcast has largely been stripped of most of its exclusives
@MisterSouji
@MisterSouji 2 ай бұрын
@890Jacob And yet it still has more than the PS5 🤣
@ComposerKuandohan
@ComposerKuandohan Ай бұрын
I sell video games for a living and during a move to a different state I got a ps4 pro to replace my dying ps4 slim. It was a great deal, just had to fix it up a bit. Didn’t think about backing up my save files because all of my saves have been in the cloud. Since the price increase of the ps4 subscription, I decided to stop it before the move. So, I plug in my ps4 pro wanting to finally get to level 100 in Tetris Effect after my move… I notice I’m at level 1 again. I’m like “ah, I forgot to transfer my save file over, no big deal, it’s in the cloud. I’ll just download the 500 kbps file.” Then I get hit with “you need to be a ps+ member to download your save files.” I instantly, and immediately became a steam deck/PC gamer after that. You can play online with friend, you can move save field, remote play, share play, etc. FOR FREE. Why are we getting charged for things we’re already paying for with our regular internet? Just to play on a console where most of its exclusives end up on steam in 6 months???
@ToyKeeper
@ToyKeeper 2 ай бұрын
From the couch, an 8k screen looks basically the same as a 1080p screen. Increasing the resolution past that doesn't make it look perceptibly better... it mostly just makes software run slower and makes hardware cost more.
@pranze3484
@pranze3484 2 ай бұрын
Uh while I'd be hard pressed to distinguish 1440p from 4k, I can immediately tell if a game runs at 1080p on my 55" TV. Not even remotely close.
@Trainboy1EJR
@Trainboy1EJR 2 ай бұрын
So like I was playing Resident Evil 5 on PS3 and 720p was looking insanely good on a 50” 1080p at like 10-12 feet. Seriously though, if all games used Capcom’s MT Framework game engine I don’t think we would have ever needed to upgrade from PS3. XD Sadly modern game engines are a total mess. Ever seen a Unity title on New 3DS? Nintendo really messed up by not partnering with Capcom for the 3DS Dev Kit. And forget about Unreal Engine there.
@GamingProspector84
@GamingProspector84 2 ай бұрын
The difference between 1080p, 1440p, and 2160p is noticeable but not by much. I’d say it most noticeable from 1080 to 1440; the image is crisper and vibrant. 1440 to 2160, the image outline is clean and not slightly grainy/blurry.
@Ilovemyquackfootball
@Ilovemyquackfootball 2 ай бұрын
😂😂😂 if you can’t tell the difference from HD to 8k you may need some eye surgery my brother.
@PSYCHOV3N0M
@PSYCHOV3N0M 2 ай бұрын
Go see an Optometrist IMMEDIATELY if you can't tell the difference between 1080p and 8K. 🤣🤣🤣 2 Million pixels vs 33 Million pixels is a night and day difference. P.s. You need at least an 85 inch display in order for 8K to make an impact.
@Magusguile
@Magusguile 2 ай бұрын
I totally agree with your thoughts about not really caring about super HD graphics...and FPS, honestly. I do think they can look really cool, but I would much rather have a quality, stable playing experience...and more money? Maybe I'm not that sensitive to it, or maybe it is just because I'm getting older so...I don't see it as well or I remember how games used to look...idk...I'm pretty cool to sticking with Switch and a gaming handheld/laptop that I can take with me and enjoy a bunch of games for alot less money in general.
@whodissis1
@whodissis1 2 ай бұрын
23:44 goddamn Bob, you got it. Telling everybody to sub 🏃‍♂️
@OptimusProvost
@OptimusProvost 2 ай бұрын
13:12 I laughed at “Harry Osbourne’s sweater crazy!”
@Boss_Fight_Index_muki
@Boss_Fight_Index_muki 2 ай бұрын
If you really want Quality Mode at 60fps, go for the Pro. If you're ok with Quality Mode at 30fps, stick with the normal standard ps5.
@dragoon1090
@dragoon1090 2 ай бұрын
Are those 30 FPS extra really worth $700?
@Damnitgary
@Damnitgary 2 ай бұрын
​@@dragoon1090they're worth it to me
@Tarets
@Tarets 2 ай бұрын
​@@dragoon1090 PS5 Pro is not 700$ extra over PS5. Get your math right.
@fallb0rn
@fallb0rn 2 ай бұрын
​@@dragoon1090 depends who you asking. To me it is. Since I hate blurry games. Now I can play them in high frame rate with super sharp image quality.
@FBZOMBlES
@FBZOMBlES 2 ай бұрын
@@dragoon1090yes
@murphyebass7837
@murphyebass7837 2 ай бұрын
People hate on it but still buy it. Exact same thing happened with the portal
@TopHatCat1989
@TopHatCat1989 2 ай бұрын
Already got a PS5 and a PC, won't bother getting the PS5 Pro, not even sure if I'll buy PS6/Pro at a later date, still moving on from PlayStation to Steam and GOG on Linux. I rarely play multi-player games these days.
@michaelsuezo
@michaelsuezo 2 ай бұрын
that frustration with the ps plus stuff and cloud saves is so real man. i'm glad i dont have to worry about it when i upgrade my steam deck to the oled model whenever
@ChiBrianXIII
@ChiBrianXIII 2 ай бұрын
I returned mine. Rebirth was great, but then I decided I don’t have much else to play after that. I rather just wait for the PC port of rebirth now, and hopefully it’ll fix the pop ins
@nintendork07
@nintendork07 2 ай бұрын
it's an issue with unreal engine 4. it would take a large undertaking of the base game code & probably won't get fixed with a PC port, similar to Sonic Frontiers
@mr.smart75
@mr.smart75 2 ай бұрын
@@ChiBrianXIII fr
@thegreatmightyd
@thegreatmightyd 2 ай бұрын
This. I haven't touched the game since I finished it way back in March or April because I can't stand how bad the broken textures look and the constant pop up. Would much rather play it on my PC and Steam Deck, not to mention the mods that people are going to make for this game will be awesome.
@ChiBrianXIII
@ChiBrianXIII 2 ай бұрын
@briandprice81 all those games are on PC homie. I’m not missing any of those on the PS5 Pro, that I can’t do much better already.
@thegreatmightyd
@thegreatmightyd 2 ай бұрын
@briandprice81 And the Sony games are already on PC...
@myownbiggestfan
@myownbiggestfan 2 ай бұрын
I've made the exact same HDR rant at my setup. Windows on my Lenovo Legion Go tells me that my external display doesn't support HDR while my monitor displays HDR content the Go is sending. It used to be that when I changed the volume on windows, the pop-up volume slider would cause the screen to go black. I assume that that overlay isn't in HDR and causes hiccups. It's a strangely unstable technology.
@casualdon
@casualdon 2 ай бұрын
18:38 You *can* transfer games without Wi-Fi, you just need a device that is designed to be a PlayStation 5 "USB Extended Storage." Regular flash drives don't work.
@EspenSGX
@EspenSGX 2 ай бұрын
The whole "this HDD/SSD is designed specially for PlayStation" is a scam. What you're paying for is that PS logo on the box. All you need to do is get the drive that is the normal equivalent, plug it into your PS and let it format it (take note that this erases present data) to what the PS uses to store data.
@casualdon
@casualdon 2 ай бұрын
@@EspenSGX mb king. should have phrased it as "works as" instead of "designed to be." for the record, I didn't mean officially licensed ones, just ones that are known to work.
@InFlamesor12
@InFlamesor12 2 ай бұрын
Also HDMI 2.1 is more than enough for a 4K 120 hz and HDR gameplay. HDMI 2.1 supports 48 GBPS bandwidth, that means it supports 4k up to 153 hz even on a 10 bit panel.
@GGdrive1
@GGdrive1 2 ай бұрын
I have a great TV, with 120 hrz and VRR support, but I have no interest in this upgrade. This generation from SONY has been frustrating for me. I don't see myself putting anymore money into Playstation after this gen. These console makers are making getting a PC more and more appealing.
@SnakeEaterGaming
@SnakeEaterGaming 2 ай бұрын
I would really consider updating if it was cheaper. The price is absolutely nuts. I was hoping the original PS5 price would drop to 450$ or 400$ and the pro would be the new 500$ or 550$ or even 600$. Unfortunately we don’t live in that world.
@garethUK
@garethUK 2 ай бұрын
Dude. To transfer from your old PS5 to the Pro, you can literally just move all your games onto the SSD and then put that SSD into the Pro. It just works. No transfer via wifi necessary.
@SIPEROTH
@SIPEROTH 2 ай бұрын
I was thinking the same.
@jordanrayo2425
@jordanrayo2425 2 ай бұрын
Matter of fact all you need is a lan cable 😂 literally connect a lan cable to the ps5s in its lan slots turn on the ps5s and it’ll connect & ask you to transfer thru lan cable, I used to due this on my ps3 and ps4 so much easier & faster😅
@garethUK
@garethUK 2 ай бұрын
@@jordanrayo2425 That seems like a backwards step to me. If I'm upgrading from one machine to the other then I'm clearly taking my SSD with me anyway. And SSD read/write speeds > network transfer speeds even over ethernet.
@mrturbo84
@mrturbo84 2 ай бұрын
And how do i do that if i have no PC?
@garethUK
@garethUK 2 ай бұрын
@@mrturbo84 Seriously? You turn on your PS5, go to settings, storage, then select your games and move them all to the SSD. When it's finished, you turn off the PS5, remove the SSD, insert it into the PS5 Pro and then turn that on. No PC is needed for any of these steps.
@noa670
@noa670 2 ай бұрын
Not worth it, the PS4 Pro was justified for new 4K TVs expansion but the PS5 Pro has no real use cases
@LuckyLefty85
@LuckyLefty85 2 ай бұрын
The WiFi 7 is a huge plus. Was getting 78-100 mbps in my room on the base PS5. Pro gives me 350-440 mbps
@williammiller3277
@williammiller3277 2 ай бұрын
Except for when downloading a new game it doesn't make much difference though. Maybe if you stream via an app or PS portal (if they ever realse a wifi 7 version) but not for playing on the pro itself. Hope what youre streaming to also has wifi 7. Lol. I'd rather have faster wifi too but I ain't paying what Sony wants for it. Not that much of a plus.
@LuckyLefty85
@LuckyLefty85 2 ай бұрын
@ it did for me. Downloaded all my games and it’s a significant improvement. I play Warzone and usually have to hardwire but I’ve been using WiFi to purposely see if it’s bs but I haven’t had any network issues. As far as the price, a 2tb SSD alone costs 100+. You get that with all the other features so I’m good on the price. Not to mention I sold my old PS5 to GameStop for $250 🤷🏾‍♂️
@williammiller3277
@williammiller3277 2 ай бұрын
@LuckyLefty85 and I got a PC with better specs for less if price is the rationalization. ::shrugs:: It is the worst rationalization for a ps5 pro though. If you had to hardwire before there was something wrong with your network.
@Patrick-y4d1z
@Patrick-y4d1z 2 ай бұрын
@@LuckyLefty85 You only listed the downloading. Aside from that, it'll have no benefit. Which is what William said. As for 2TB SSD, sure that's 100 retail (not exactly 100 for Sony though) - but it's a 1TB upgrade, and 1TB is about 45/50. As for other features, I'm not sure what you mean. Slightly better graphics in some games, but then it loses the disc drive and the stand, so it's a downgrade feature-wise overall. So you're saying you paid 450 difference for a $50 SSD and Wifi 7 improvements.
@LuckyLefty85
@LuckyLefty85 2 ай бұрын
Someone could have an RTX3060 but buy a 4070. Isn’t the purpose of that to improve graphics and performance? Same here but you’re buying the equivalent of a pc instead of just a gpu. I could be 100% wrong here but at the end of the day, Sony got my money and I’m a happy customer lol
@AhrionGallegos
@AhrionGallegos 2 ай бұрын
I bought a PS5 Pro, I stalled 1 game out of box, Overwatch 2. Game/PS5 Pro crashed and didn't restart. Had to turn it back on again. Happened in every game I tested after. How did this pass QA?
@BornAdventurer
@BornAdventurer Ай бұрын
You just got a lemon, happens with every everything, hope you exchanged it
@AhrionGallegos
@AhrionGallegos Ай бұрын
@BornAdventurer maybe. But there are whole threads on reddit of people who have the same issue
@BornAdventurer
@BornAdventurer Ай бұрын
@@AhrionGallegos There aren’t any massive threads or tech channels talking about it though. I noticed it’s probably the same sort of issue that also happens with the base PS5. You just got unlucky, hopefully you got it sorted!
@AhrionGallegos
@AhrionGallegos Ай бұрын
@@BornAdventurer yup. A replacement fixed it!
@RoddieH
@RoddieH 2 ай бұрын
Did you mean to scare Spiderman when you said "pisser?"
@AtomicDropLabs
@AtomicDropLabs 2 ай бұрын
I have a high end tv and the upgrade is pretty obvious on enhanced games like SpiderMan and Horizon
@hardkore360
@hardkore360 2 ай бұрын
Yeah but how many times are you going to play a single player, story mode game? 😂😂😂
@SepticFalcon
@SepticFalcon 2 ай бұрын
I was tempted... but for that price with no disc drive out the box is a no go for me *looks over at collection of physical games and nods "Edit: Thanks for the video Bob! 🥰"
@studivan
@studivan 2 ай бұрын
If Sony had of left the disc drive and the stand in the box, it would have been a no brainer for me, but the way it is now is a $200.00 rip off.
@umm2012
@umm2012 Ай бұрын
Pisser "PSSR" at work 😂 little bit of beer came out of my nose because of the off guard caught laughing 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 thanks for that joke 🙏🏻
@mr.smart75
@mr.smart75 2 ай бұрын
This video has HDR!
@powderdropzone
@powderdropzone 2 ай бұрын
Do you know how to turn it off on KZbin? It goes to full brightness on your phone under full screen. Super annoying.
@mr.smart75
@mr.smart75 2 ай бұрын
@ yeah idk man
@brandon_nope
@brandon_nope 2 ай бұрын
​@@powderdropzone low power mode
@jdez095
@jdez095 2 ай бұрын
I have my Pro set up on a 4K 60 HDR tv and my base model ps5 on a 1440hz gaming monitor. I feel like it is a balanced setup. Currently playing God of War RR, Predator Hunting Grounds, Starship Troopers Extermination. They run at a locked 60 on the TV and look awesome. Oh and Cyberpunk 2077, much more sharper image consistency.
@guilhermerovida5488
@guilhermerovida5488 2 ай бұрын
You're wrong. There's an option for save file transfer thru USB Flash Drive... It's just a different menu. Look for backup your PS5. GO to Settings > System > System Software > Data Transfer
@guilhermerovida5488
@guilhermerovida5488 2 ай бұрын
Also... you can transfer your games just by saving them on the M.2 memory and put in the Pro.... easy
@mrfixite
@mrfixite 2 ай бұрын
Lol that's dumb when the other one is somewhere else.
@jibblerino
@jibblerino 2 ай бұрын
It is odd that it's in another place. Also when you do the data transfer from console to console, you can narrow down the transfer to your saves & profile. You don't have to do the full hard drive.
@PSYCHOV3N0M
@PSYCHOV3N0M 2 ай бұрын
​@@jibblerinoPS5 consoles don't use hard drives. They use solid state drives. Learn the difference.
@jibblerino
@jibblerino 2 ай бұрын
@PSYCHOV3N0M lollllll
@colby6385
@colby6385 2 ай бұрын
Great video!!! I am sticking with my base ps5, I have watched numerous videos and brake downs etc, and I honestly in 4 years have not once noticed a frame drop or have I ever played a game and thought man those graphics are terrible. I just plug and play. I was thinking about trading in my ps5 for a pro and it's just not worth it, to still have to pay 350, 400 or a very minimal upgrade definitely not for me
@brisingr14
@brisingr14 2 ай бұрын
And here I am playing my 120$ offerup ps4 pro on the lowest settings to get the best performance on an old dell monitor I got from goodwill for 10$. The original peter parker face still looks better. 🤣
@BrandonFungaling
@BrandonFungaling 2 ай бұрын
When I got my Series X it allowed me to transfer all my saved data from Xbox’s cloud for free. When I got my PS5 Pro it said I had to have had an active plus membership around a specific time frame in order to download my saves. I was unfortunately out of the window to recover my saves 😔
@hugecowpatty5724
@hugecowpatty5724 2 ай бұрын
The last time a boost in power got me a new gameplay experience was going from Xbox to Xbox 360. The move from Xbox 360 to Xbox One got me better graphics and I guess faster load times and that's it. This is why I play games almost exclusively on Nintendo hardware and PC. Nintendo figured out 2 decades ago that boosted in power weren't going to cut it anymore. The Wii, Wii U, and Switch have all given me gameplay experiences that are unique (even if the Switch's experience is just that it's portable). The last non-Nintendo console I bought was a launch Xbox One and neither Sony or Microsoft have given me a single good reason to upgrade. It baffles me that people buy these things by the 10s of millions when every game that comes out for them could run on an Xbox 360 or PS3 if you just sacrificed graphical fidelity.
@M_CFV
@M_CFV 2 ай бұрын
360 to One is massive dude, go back and look at the disgusting aliasing and framerates on everything. As someone who emulates games from that era, they need heavily upscaled to look good (no jaggies, no blur)
@anthonysanto
@anthonysanto 2 ай бұрын
In anticipation for the arrival of my PS5 Pro, I spent a month replaying Demon’s Souls on my PS5. I felt this would give me a better feel for the enhancements that would be provided by the Pro, when I transferred over to the new console. There was a significant bump in game performance on the Pro.
@GooseMon
@GooseMon 2 ай бұрын
You can transfer save data with a usb drive. It’s in system settings. Back up to usb.
@steveybiggunzgaming8118
@steveybiggunzgaming8118 2 ай бұрын
Demon souls is pro enhanced
@AdApT3Rx
@AdApT3Rx 2 ай бұрын
Nice😊
@triifid1327
@triifid1327 2 ай бұрын
For someone like me who had my original ps3 for 7yrs and my current original ps4 for 10yrs, is it worth buying the ps5 pro as my first model knowing how long before i upgrade and that developers may utilise the hardware in the years to come? Im not necessarily that focused on physical media although re buying some ps4 disc's will be irritating. Currently in the uk brand new i can get a slim for for £459 or a pro for £659
@Kesano
@Kesano 2 ай бұрын
If you have the money for that there is the advantage of ps4 games running perfect, ps5 games running really well and ps6 games which problably wanna run nice on ps5 pro After all ps4 is still having new games even if can't run so well
@IceYetiWins
@IceYetiWins 2 ай бұрын
To me it seems the base ps5 would be a better buy and you can play your ps4 disks. But idk, I don't have a ps5.
@alexanderjones8787
@alexanderjones8787 2 ай бұрын
I’ll pay $700 when the performance and the graphics are actually 10 times the 20 times better than they have been for previous console. If you’re gonna come out with a pro make it a real professional high grade quality make a difference console other than that, it’s a money graband it’s only for the real enthusiast that feel like they need it so I will be happy with my regular five instead of pissing away 700+ tax
@dave787
@dave787 2 ай бұрын
The potential of the PS5 wasn't fully realised by enough games. Metal gear solid isn't there to show off a bomb proof and unique experience. And obviously there are great games like ratchet and clank and god a war but the choices are slim. Using the PS5 to it's full potential doesn't mean 4K, who cares. But having a game that has a creative vision and is efficiently using the power of the system to get good frames. I think AAA and console gaming is going all in on fidelity at the cost of style and vision. I had a PS5 and couldn't scrape together the enthusiasm to buy and download a game from the store. The PS5 Pro in my opinion is a symptom of the diminishing returns of the fidelity economy that is AAA gaming. Would love to see a refocus on gameplay above all else. I don't know, i'm probably full of shit.
@edwardbrennan3963
@edwardbrennan3963 2 ай бұрын
My issue with the price is the fact that it's missing the disc drive and the stand. Had it included those i believe the push back on the price wouldn't have been so big
@olivergoldvalente
@olivergoldvalente 2 ай бұрын
Encouraging 24fps games with rolling shutter? NOOO thank you. Rolling shutter resembles cheap modern cameras. Most people consider a filmic look more desirable. Things that might help that would be proper per object motion blur, chromatic aberration, complex grain structures. Rolling shutter would just look like screen tearing. That would feel like lag and jitter in gameplay. Also it would make mouse users dizzy due to the more 1:1 nature of mouse movement. Keep frame rates high and options toggle-able please.
@msanchez2000
@msanchez2000 2 ай бұрын
Also professional film cameras have global shutter so they don't look like the example shown
@t4nk3d402
@t4nk3d402 2 ай бұрын
i always thought it was hilarious they had an 8k logo on the box at launch of the PS5, and not sure who remembers but the PS5 wasnt even capable of VRR at launch
@LuisPerez-5
@LuisPerez-5 2 ай бұрын
20:28 can't you use an SSD?
@heezyy
@heezyy 2 ай бұрын
Great review bro. I do have a 120htz 4K tv. I'm struggling to find a reason to justify the pro
@SIPEROTH
@SIPEROTH 2 ай бұрын
I really don't think is a great review though because he hardly had any games to test so i don't get how he can even claim to have tested it. Testing something like Spiderman or Horizon or God of War is not a good test because Sony first party games are very well build for the hardware so they are already squeezing everything they can get from the normal PS5 to look as good as possible and any enhanced edition they may have will hardly been very different since they already were great. Then he teste resident Evil that is just more frames from 60 that is already pretty good.
@tenchiuwu
@tenchiuwu 2 ай бұрын
I absolutely LOVED playing through The Touryst, and it's still one of my favorite indie games! Kinda funny hearing that it's the only game that could run at 8K on the original PS5 lol
@RicardoGarCeb
@RicardoGarCeb 2 ай бұрын
Hey Wulf, I know now is too late but there is a guide to backup your entire PS OS into a USB drive and it includes the saves too, so there is no need to pay the subscription. It is not in the export saves, it is a different option, there is a guide in push square step by step
@Sharan25
@Sharan25 2 ай бұрын
ps5 pro should of came with a disc drive
@Seamoorif
@Seamoorif 2 ай бұрын
Bob getting married to himself in the ad was surprisingly wholesome
@pebblestad
@pebblestad 2 ай бұрын
Rip yahungry50😢
@UrSuLeTzU7777
@UrSuLeTzU7777 2 ай бұрын
You can backup and restore everything on a usb stick or external hdd but yeah, Sony is really scummy for locking easy save transfer to having a plus sub.
@xenos_n.
@xenos_n. 2 ай бұрын
When you have to squint to see the difference, you know they've hit a wall.
@sandman1989
@sandman1989 2 ай бұрын
with the fidelity pro setting for spiderman 2 and a VRR display you can uncap the framerate and get around 60 with all the RT settings on
@Mmachine88
@Mmachine88 2 ай бұрын
Everyone made fun of Xbox when they announced 'smart delivery'' for the series consoles to prevent the debacle you had with playing the wrong versions of games. It's actually kinda wild how many things the Xbox series consoles offer over the playstation 5 or even things they simply offer or don't limit you by, and yet the mass market and main stream big game/tech outlets and youtube channels would make you probably think playstations are wildly better products (specifically the hardware and console experience) .
@roberthubbard2173
@roberthubbard2173 Ай бұрын
You sure about the hdmi output bandwidth I’m getting conflicting reports supporting higher than 32, it’s more like 48 Gpbs? Anyway there are worse consoles with way less features to bleed money for, I am happy with my purchase but what do I know, I still crank out Def Jam Icon on my PS3. Happy Holidays Wulff you never disappoint 😂
@ninjason57
@ninjason57 2 ай бұрын
Sony really should have leaned into the increased FPS, not the improved graphics.
@mechanicalmonk2020
@mechanicalmonk2020 2 ай бұрын
That's what they did tho
@ediGoesPRO
@ediGoesPRO 2 ай бұрын
I appreciate you uploading hdr content!!
@Saiegel
@Saiegel 2 ай бұрын
2 little tips for anyone that wants to make the process to transfer their ps4/ps5 data to a ps5 pro. Use a high speed ethernet cable connected to both consoles, that way you your getting the best speed possible and not need to relay on your router. Or if you have a secondary SSD on the ps5 you can completely transfer everything on your SSD to the new one if both are set up with the same psn account.
@728GT
@728GT 2 ай бұрын
Watching this guy lose his shit about the save files made my day.
@thebatman8957
@thebatman8957 2 ай бұрын
When you pulled out the clips for a side stand, I cringed. My standard PS5 came with a whole stand which looks nice and isn't 2 tiny clips. I love how this is the Pro that's $700 but comes with worse options than the standard no disc, no stand/side stand. Not really worth it. There's only like 5 games on their list that I would give a shit about playing again or seeing the graphics improvements.
@bdizzle9586
@bdizzle9586 2 ай бұрын
The best part is where Sony and third parties will never release games on PlayStation ever again. That’s the only way what you say makes sense.
@Spacemonkie42
@Spacemonkie42 2 ай бұрын
I'm fine with the slim, spent enough with the extra 2TB. HDR always on works but the issue I'm having is with the RGB range. Is it better do m to go RGB limited or full?
@MiguelTorrellas
@MiguelTorrellas 2 ай бұрын
This video gave me the impression how evil Playstation is: -£700 new console with no significant improvement, totally unnecessary -Separate stand.... for the console to stand -Separate disc unit -Proprietary faceplates, they're just a piece of plastic -Charging for playing online -Charging to transfer saves and games to other console Plus ALL PS5 games can be played on PC, no thank you I'll stick with my steam deck
@griffsgamestreams
@griffsgamestreams 2 ай бұрын
I would say it's like Steam releasing the Oled steam deck. Not necessary but there are improvements. Also the 1tb oled deck is $650. I have a launch Steam Deck and didn't buy the Oled. The PS5 Pro has 1tb more storage, and way more power. PS5 games are coming to PC but usually a year or more after release. You also don't have to pay to transfer saves and games to another console. You can use an external drive to do that. The stand isn't necessary. I have never bought a vertical stand for any other Playstation and they were also sold separately. The original PS5 is the only one that ever came with a vertical stand in the box.
@YourFriendlyGymRat
@YourFriendlyGymRat 2 ай бұрын
You're not the target audience for this ( you've never been to begin with ) , simply don't buy the console or try better luck buying a PC to se how well that goes You're literally arguing with yourself
@YourFriendlyGymRat
@YourFriendlyGymRat 2 ай бұрын
​@@griffsgamestreams common sense user , rare thing to find in this platforms
@MiguelTorrellas
@MiguelTorrellas 2 ай бұрын
@@griffsgamestreams ❤ thank you your reply made me change my mind completely
@DiceRobo
@DiceRobo 2 ай бұрын
@@griffsgamestreams If someone has at least 12 full price games on Playstation, then it's worth it for them to buy this instead of a PC. Like do people not realize that people buy multi platform games on platforms other than PC? For an example of what I mean, I don't want to get a PC handheld right now because the Switch 2 will be backwards compatible. For me, that means the Switch 2 is worth more than any PC Handheld because my Switch has more games than I have on Steam. Like "oh yeah, don't spend $700 on this, spend $1,000 on a PC, then buy the same games that you already had, and restart those games from the beginning unless the dev adds cross platform saves."
@kenneth2875
@kenneth2875 2 ай бұрын
You can transfer PS5 saves by doing a backup and choose PS5 saves
@JohnneyleeRollins
@JohnneyleeRollins 2 ай бұрын
ps5 streamer edition
@zDToddy
@zDToddy 2 ай бұрын
ps5 unnecessary edition
@ChuckTownRC51
@ChuckTownRC51 Ай бұрын
Gran Turismo 7 gets the most improvement from this console and you can't play it on PC.. Only game it makes sense for right now.
@241tuesday6
@241tuesday6 2 ай бұрын
I can get a used PS5 for $200 on Facebook marketplace if I’m willing to drive 30 minutes to some guys house and I have cash. Why would I spend $500 for a few extra pixels?
@mechanicalmonk2020
@mechanicalmonk2020 2 ай бұрын
Because that way you get to keep your kidneys
@leoaguilar3442
@leoaguilar3442 20 күн бұрын
i find it funny that bob reviews tech stuff and had some difficulty doing reasonable tech tasks ie (playing the ps4 version of apex and not the ps5 one, and turning on the hdr setting on the pro.
@trevlsteinberg5994
@trevlsteinberg5994 2 ай бұрын
So many aggressively correct takes here, I’m not even sure how I can make fun of you 😢
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