How carnivores are dining with Finnish taxpayers money

[@GeneralCalculus]

As a native finn, I think we should attempt to recreate extinct cave lion, that lived in Europe during ice ages, from extant african lions and reintroduce them to Eurpe and Finland.

[@j0rgos971]

With spawn eggs

[@MrGunnar69]

You can also recreate dinosaurs by taking DNA from a mosquito stuck in amber.

[@GeneralCalculus]

@@MrGunnar69 Definetely more easier of breed cold resistant lions than trying to clone long extinct animals I'd guess.

[@felixstr9082]

Dont forget cave hyenas and ice age leopards

[@operaatio5117]

You did forget to mention the country wide problem of this so called "verokarhu"

[@mgntstr]

I think the best employees of the reindeer herder is the train, then the messy aftermath makes counting difficult and they can add extra bodies to the paycheck

[@o.h2202]

Also the army, sometimes they lead sick old reindeer to the army training grounds and reindeer get vaporized by our artillery.

[@sfjuhispst8144]

I think there should be more large carnivores here in the finnish south. Reasons include: -Deers on the road -Deers in the backyard -Deers in the cemetery (for real) -The twindling number of hunters

[@juhokuusisto9339]

And then there are those herders that drive their raindeers to FDF artillery firing range and claim the losses from the state.

[@snibelsnaps2302]

Approximately 300 wolves, 400 wolverines, 2000 lynxes in the whole country and 6900 bears , 1/5 of that lives in lapland and 5000 of those 6900 bears are considered as a verokarhu and they only attack humans that have done some sort of financial tomfoolery.

[@vilidious]

We could learn from Italy's Romulus and Remus and introduce "Reindeer children", who'd be part of the reindeer pack their whole lives, ride the reindeer and protect it once they get old enough. Maybe have them acclimatize to eating lichen etc to save in food costs. It might be tempting especially for those families where the children are less likeable than the pets this would protect. ;) (irony, btw.)

[@firestar2_095]

No, no, they've got a point

[@Detah_]

Just do the PERKELE tactic like that one guy who nearly had a bear steal his garbage

[@seriousspikesam7770]

Brown bears are hesitant to approach humans to begin with. The perkele is just an extra way to ensure they will keep their distance.

[@mgntstr]

idk how much the PERKELE card will reimburse your garnered wages.

[@JannyBesmircher]

Wolverine would be a badass animal to represent Finland tbh.

[@oskar7962]

Ruokolahden leijona reference?

[@Leopez02]

Ruokolahddn leijona on Suomen historian mielenkiintoisempia keissejä. Miten leijona voi muka karata eläintarhasta ja se ei pärjäisi Suomen luonnossa. 😅😮

[@Pikkabuu]

@@Leopez02 Kamoon. Se oli 1990-lukuu ja kuka silloin söi etnistä ruokaa?! Ja luuletko että Suomen murkinat olis jellonalle kotoisia?

[@ihanvaavp5383]

if they eat macaroni my reindeer soup will have metall in it :D

[@OliverDiGeronimo009]

Please make a video about Vappu!! Don't forget to mention that JVG song though.

[@mandelin0]

I have a different topic under the work right now but after that maybe

[@OliverDiGeronimo009]

@@mandelin0 make one about Moomin to! Have you played My Summer Car yet?

[@Sycklify]

make carnivores a protected species, which are fined heavily if poached. Have a limited amount of "reindeer tags" per season, to steer away from fraud, and then make note of the people that are always maxing out the tags and investigate them for fraud. yes, more tax dollars at work, but less so for the coming seasons as there are a limited number of people that even do herding. And fucking hell, even canned reindeer is expensive here. Luv ur vids.

[@Pikkabuu]

Great video but you forgot one more predator of deers. The Finnish military or more accurately the Finnish artillery exercising at Rovajärvi shooting range (The main shooting range for the Finnish artillery). How to distinguish how many reindeers were lost when all you have is bits and pieces?

[@mgntstr]

What??? The Finnish artillery core don't make sure there is not a pack of grazing reindeer in their target zone? LOL!

[@Pikkabuu]

@@mgntstr Reindeers can just run to the target zone suddenly.

[@mgntstr]

@@Pikkabuu "suddenly" The reindeers do not have faster than light engines. Calibrate accordingly.

[@Pikkabuu]

@@mgntstr Artillery shells aren't FTL either. So the observers order a barrage, artillery shoots and boom reindeers appear from the forest and soon there is mince meat on the range.

[@mgntstr]

@@Pikkabuu Yes eggs actly. Artillery shells take time to reach the target, so observers fire off signal command an all clear for firing of a barrage in ignorance of the reindeers in the immediate surroundings. And soon there is mince meat valued at £700/kg covering the area, and no one picks it up for home use. What a waste. Not to mention the valute of the pelt.

[@Aqnde]

The traditional way is to first chase your reindeer herd on to the road so that some of them get hit by a car, claim insurance and then carry the carcass into forest and claim beast damage. In practice wolves venturing into reindeer herding area(at least in the north) have a habit of disappearing mysteriously as soon as they are spotted.

[@caked3953]

In Italy we call this the 3S rule: Shhot, shovel, silence

[@WilliamLaakkonen]

Great ending! Love your sense of humor.

[@Kangsteri]

The road was very slippery and the rock went up Timos ass.

[@vincentvooyz]

Would love it to see a video about finnish time and date

[@mertkahve7600]

I think its only the natural balance that works there. Compensating is a good idea but maybe should be reduced a bit. Idk ı was cool with the idea of constant danger of bears while having bbq in Mikkeli forests :DDDD

[@JPIQQG]

Reduce it and they poach more

[@xKuukkelix]

any reduction in the compensation will increase the poaching. Only reason the compensation even exists is to protect the predators from the reindeer herders

[@aatumakinen2737]

tonni video jes arvostan et jatkat laatupätkien uppaamista🔥👍

[@davidfelso1932]

Why aren’t protective doggos possible for reindeer herds?

[@mandelin0]

I think it is because of the half domestication of reindeer, i.e. they move a lot.

[@tobbcittobbcit8899]

10 million euros isn’t really that much to be fair. also all i can think of is womp womp bc they want to live the “traditional way” while ignoring that carnival wildlife has always been part of just that traditional way of life 😂

[@saygo-png]

Any person doing this for traditional reasons and complaining about wildlife eating reindeer, as if its a new thing is an iddiot

[@Hnkka]

My grandma knows one guy who has abused/is abusing those compensations

[@annawagner4147]

I love the accent

[@TheFinnishTechie]

4:19 is hilarious

[@idraote]

In my hometown, which at 600.000 is not exactly small and rural, we have had a problem with boars for a couple of years now. Thanks to those pesky citizens who think that animals are always sacred no matter how mangy and dangerous, nothing has been done. And we still have a problem with those ba***ds seagulls. Hate them.

[@mgntstr]

Hey hey. Don't blame others for your lack of seagull predation. (Free chicken)

[@jarimiettinen779]

All predators were counted in the Saariselkä region. There were none, but hundreds of thousands received predatory compensation. The Finnish wolverine is the most amazing animal in the world. It's not a scavenger. It ran to catch the adult reindeer. Not, only one reindeer, but dozens at once. The Finnish wolf is also 10 times more powerful predator than anywhere else in the world.

[@KemppisenRipa]

You should make a video about finnish beer

[@mgntstr]

£250 per kg, free scoters, diesel, helicopters, grass feed, wildlife predation compensation, are they telling us this is not enough to make the wheels go round? Bull fucking shit.

[@TheDerperado]

"If a man lives well today, he wants to live better tomorrow."

[@tonzeeee4469]

Well... bit over 10€/kg from meat and for scooters and fourwheelers just 20-35% investment support. Helicopters are expensive as shit and state does not pay anythin for them and same for the grass diesel etc. You can get ALV away from those expenses but so can every business about their business expenses. Check your facts folks...

[@BigBangAttack-mt6pz]

I thought you were annoying but watch this video and remembered you are funny

[@4rct1c9Ic3m4n]

Reindeer, deer, and elk meat is excessively expensive in Finland. Have to ask oneself (even if you can afford it) what's the big deal about these meats anyway. Beef or lamb is better tasting

[@seriousspikesam7770]

The rarity and the "exclusivity" of it. Many people cannot claim to have tasted bear meat in their lives. Even fewer can say they have actually hunted one. My grandfather has a habit of making elk stew whenever his hunting group manages to down one. It serves some sort of purpose I guess. If nothing else, the dogs will love it.

[@4rct1c9Ic3m4n]

@@seriousspikesam7770 Yes that is also true. "Exclusivity" actually reminds me of "The Freshman 1990"

[@123Karva]

the reason why there are not so many bear attacks in Finland is because we hunt them... It creates a certain type of fear for the bears that they pass on to their cubs - so they know to avoid humans when they smell one.

[@someweirdo1736]

En oo ekspertti asiassa mutta voitaisko jotain työkoiria laittaa porojen mukaan suojelee niitä oikealla koulutuksella?

[@unlovednekochan94]

seagulls

[@sealfin1743]

Seuraava jakso Sauli Niinistö, nyt kun eläkepäivät ovat tulleet?

[@MrOMGtime]

i hate seagulls

[@jinglemyberries866]

same.

[@J3rmu_k]

Ruokolahti mainittu!!

[@onecow7526]

Sähän tiiät et carnivore on vain lihansyöjä, mutta Omnivore on sekasyöjä. Et karhu ei ole vain lihansyöjä ainakaan, eikä oikeastaan noi toisetkaan eläimet.

[@GeneralCalculus]

Carnivore:lla voi tarkoitta sekä lihansyöjää että "petoeläinten" (carnivora) lahkon edustajaa tarkasta ruokavaliosta riippumatta. Johon kuuluvat kaikki videolla näkyneet nisäkkäät poroja ja ihmisiä lukuun ottamatta

[@onddu2254]

No susi nyt ainakin on

[@mgntstr]

såg en häst äta en liten kyckling som sprang löst på gården joo

[@fastpack6130]

Ne saatanan lokkeilijat

[@kaisaheikkila]

I think we just need to wait. The change in the climate up here has made keeping reindeer alive during winter harder and harder. (the snow melts and freezes over and over, the reindeer can't dig for 'jäkälä' and starve to death). So if cityfolk don't like paying, just a little bit longer and we will have no more reindeer at all. Problem solved!

[@xKuukkelix]

the reindeer keepers already feed them all through the winter. it wont change anything

[@caked3953]

​@@xKuukkelix A hereder told me it depends more on the summer and if they have a good mushroom year

[@senpaidragon6461]

🦍

[@Silveirias]

I think if you're hunting or if you own herds of animals, you have accept that wild animals are going to pray on them unless you protect them. Wild animals have every right to do what is natural to them. An animal being hunted has every right to attack a hunting dog, so if you have a hunting dog and it dies, you're responsible. You put your dog in danger. If you leave your dog outside, especially tied to a lead, and it gets eaten overnight, then you're responsible for making your dog an easy target. If you let your cat go out and it's snatched by an owl, you the owner are responsible. If you have sheep and they are fenced alone on some random field without any protection, you the owner are responsible if they are attacked by wild animals. You've practically handed them over on a silver platter. It's a bit tricker with reindeer, since they are not fully domesticated, but again, you choose to let them roam freely. It's natural that in nature animals eat other animals. If you want the reindeer are safe, then don't let them roam and provide protection. I know that it costs money to provide protection for domesticated animals, but it is what it is. Wild animals are not evil for doing what is natural to them. They are not evil for picking a target humans made into an easy target. Also, the people who hate large carnivoers are always exaggerating the numbers. Compared to many other countries, we have relatively small number of large carnivores in Finland because they are constanly hunted.

[@GoldBean2752]

The reindeer compensation thing is stupid, it's the cost of not having your herd in a feedlot. You shouldn't get compensated for business expenses. At most the compensation should be 50% the price of the reindeer.

[@ZeroNitroMan]

But basically that'd mean even the most chill reindeer keepers in the absence of any other option would turn to the last one: Poaching.

[@skeptiwolf5654]

I for one welcome beasts in my neighbourhood, they cannot be worse than the current neighbours.

[@Leopez02]

It's funny Ahma is a Wolverine in english. So Marvel's Wolverine is Ahma what symbolise Finland defienitily Kittilä in Lapland. About of video's thumbnail, I've visited in Lapland last year's summer and there I saw a lot of reindeers. 🌏🌍🌎🌃🌄🏞⛰️🏔🦌🇫🇮