How Close Is The New 2018 Gamecube Controller To The Original?

Once again Nintendo has released a new Gamecube Controller for fans to pick up on the way to the release of Smash Bros Ultimate on Nintendo Switch. These controllers are a bit different from the 2014 Gamecube controller with a different logo, but how different are they internally from the original controller?
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[@SpawnWave]

The Smash Bros Ultimate Giveaway is on! gleam.io/nUzQt/super-smash-bros-ultimate

[@Jack-zd3vr]

Bullshit

[@dert159]

I hope I win

[@CrypticConsole]

its the same as they just altered the external 3d model

[@killerskillet]

No wireless Wavebird?

[@DKast84]

Was this a limited run? I only see them going for 80 new basically.

[@RhythmGrizz]

The fact that I can get a 100% legit, first-party, factory fresh Gamecube controller in 2018 for $30 is a miracle.

[@brandonjoseph1106]

Ikr? I already picked up this bitch and now I'm geared up and ready for smash ultimate

[@IGamingStation]

Never buy third party anything for gaming.

[@RhythmGrizz]

@@IGamingStation yes.

[@chigoziea.991]

I got it for $24 thx to Black Friday :P

[@sheriffaboubakar9720]

Alan Walkman except for 3rd party N64 controllers like the Brawler 64 which is way better than the original controller

[@Sharingansandninja]

*Says he's a casual Gamecube gamer* .... *Within first 5 mins proceeds to tell us model numbers, years of release, what each controller is made of, and even weighs the two controllers down to the exact ounces* rofl.

[@mcpop0]

Casual gamer != Casual Tech Head. Guy knows more than i ever possibly could about them internals but i'll be damned if he beats me in half the stuff i play.

[@CallerID]

@@mcpop0 I bet he can, only because you think you're good

[@mcpop0]

@@CallerID im not trying to boast. Im merely saying people can be interested in the same things but have "expertise" in completely different areas of a hobby. I wouldnt expect a formula one driver to have the know how fix his car or how to tune the motor of the vehicle he drives, just like i wouldnt expect the guy who tunes the engine to be setting laptimes similar to the proper driver in the thing. He has his countless hours in the tech side of things when it comes to video games and considers himself casual when it comes to playing gamecube classics, i dont doubt that hes got far more experience in stuff he likes and has mentioned as playing a bunch comparatively to me who really hasnt played this stuff in literally a decade and change now, plus was in elemenary and middleschool when i did. But when it comes to myself and what i prefer to play, i know what im good in and can consistantly score above average if not higher in, so i wouldnt call myself a casual player in the stuff i prefer. Real time strategy? Absolutely casual on my end, i suck at them but love them to death. Fps twitch shooters? Im usually up towards the top of the leaderboards in any given match, so id consider myself advanced.

[@shealupkes]

clearly he takes the assembly more seriously than the actual play

[@FlappyCat-ef6oq]

I mean if he didn't do his research it would be a shit video

[@moshibass]

Hey just wanted to point out that there are actually 2 differences between these and the original Gamecube controllers. If you take apart the triggers, you will see metal brackets in the old controllers that are not present in the new ones. Supposedly these help guide the triggers and keep them from getting jammed. Also, the button membranes on the new controllers are a bit stiffer and less mushy than the old ones. This is not from wear, it's actually a slightly different design and can be seen pretty easily. Both of these parts can be swapped out with ones from an old controller with no problem. Anyway, it would be pretty hard to catch these unless you knew about them beforehand. Love your videos!

[@timdrake2020]

The D-Pad Membrane is taller on the 2014 / 2018 GCN controllers.

[@TakumiJoyconBoyz]

Actually, there's a few other differences. Figured I'd say it here to keep it all in one place. The newer controller also has taller buttons, which affects the feel of things like multi-shine. (Harder to slide your thumb from X to B.) and the way the sticks line up with the gates is slightly different, making shield drops easier. I think this is due to the cap being slightly thinner and 1-2mm taller. This one doesn't actually change anything, but the pegs that hold the Z-button in place are slightly longer on the new controller. I also believe because of the internal polling consistency that the dashback rate is lower on most new controllers. (It's actually MORE consistent polling, but due to the way Melee is programmed, it can end up with a walk instead of a dashback if you start the input during the wrong part of the frame. Old controllers had a higher chance of a defect that actually made Melee play better at top levels.) Oh and the screws on the old ones are galvanized, but the new ones aren't.

[@Devil935]

Takumi than in your personal how would these minor changes affect the newer controllers down the line

[@TakumiJoyconBoyz]

@@Devil935 Most of them won't affect the durability from what I can tell. They just have a worse feel. I find the best thing to do is migrate the board into an older shell and use the older controller's plastic and rubber parts to improve control feel. The biggest issue to me is the more consistent polling as that's not fixable and if you care about playing Smash Bros Melee at a competitive level it could get in the way, but no other game should have any issues from it The shoulder button wire issue mentioned by Moshibass can actually be fixed on your own by buying some thin metal wire and bending it into the shape you need to stabilize the shoulder buttons. The slot for the wire still exists, The wire is just not in there. Most of the issues are more immediate game-feel issues. I only think they'd affect really competitive games like Melee and F-Zero GX/AX though. They also should have a minimal effect on newer Smash games like Brawl and Smash 4 because they don't have Dash Dancing. Smash Ultimate remains to be seen, but I'd assume the polling issue won't affect it, even though they added back a more restricted version of Dash Dancing. I'm assuming it will have a frame delay solution like UCF and Project M.

[@emmettturner9452]

The absolute earliest GameCube controllers had a difference in the rubber membrane for the main buttons or some plastic part securing it and the rubber would easily move out of position. It was pretty common to see the in-store demos that went up before the US launch with A buttons that appeared to be stuck down. I rented a Japanese GameCube and then imported a Japanese controller before the US launch so I had even more experience with the defective design before it was revised. I recall IGN mentioning this somewhere in 2001 (mailbag?) and they also mentioned that it had been fixed.

[@hayesclark97hc]

Tbh, that tiny amount of weight is likely from the paint on the silver one. The texture is DEFINITELY due to the paint on the silver one. The original black, purple, or orange controllers would probably weigh and feel like the new one.

[@supersmashmaster43]

Hayes Clark yeah I remember I had a black controller when I was little along with my platinum controller and I remember the black one being lighter. Either different plastic or it’s the paint.

[@BeyondEntertainment_]

The old controller also has bigger triggers. That's extra plastic too

[@MorgothGamingTrove]

I can confirm the texture being different between the original black version and the 2018 one. Definitely due to the plastic.

[@DemGeekyGuysOfficial]

I think the fact that the silver one is heavier, is down to the fact that it has metal braces in the trigger mechanism. On the new GameCube controllers Nintendo just straight up didn't add them.

[@festusfive9157]

The plastic i think feels different than every other gamecube controller, even the orange, purple, and black ones. The weight is noticable for sure as well.

[@Balthazar2242]

Nintendo has always been fun with their controllers. Even though they've offered more traditional controllers since the Wii era, they still have weirdly shaped ones every generation--Wii remote, GamePad, Joy-Con. It's also worth noting that Nintendo basically invented what we know as a "traditional" controller layout with the SNES.

[@studioviper3016]

Aaaaand the prices are outrageous now

[@Dandylion286]

I looked up the eon thingamajig, and it's $150, more than the price of a good gamecube bundle on ebay these days.

[@Nitro1396]

studioviper Fuck scalpers

[@Nitro1396]

Yeet :D do you have a link?

[@PicoDePaulo]

Yeet :D wait what where did u go cause I really need one

[@MybeautifulandamazingPrincess]

Greedy mfs will buy a lot of limited products to wait for them to get rarer, then try to rip off people with outrageous prices Trying to make the product scarce and difficult to find on purpose, some people even pay others to destroy their own copies so the product becomes rarer. Even companies do this sh*t

[@MrNayru]

The weight difference comes from the dirt inside the 2002 model 😂

[@DreamcastSoup]

No I doubt that this guy probably cleans his controllers

[@mangekyos82]

I don’t think so, his controllers are like new

[@dylanmichael1734]

r/woooosh

[@Jonfgc]

@@dylanmichael1734 😕

[@robloblaw5871]

Whenever my original controllers would drift, all I had to do was unplug and plug the controller back in without touching the sticks. That would always reset the zero point for the sticks.

[@Pjaeck35]

I wish they added a ZL on the 2018 version so you can use it for switch games

[@BajaBlastUrUterus42069]

You can still use it for switch games. With the adapter's, the purple button can be used as a hot key for several functions to make up for missing buttons on the switch pro controller (as covered in a video made by Kevin Kenson).

[@I_was_a_Bullfrog]

It already has a ZL button.

[@ChicCanyon]

@@I_was_a_Bullfrog no it doesnt

[@tripandfall2379]

@@I_was_a_Bullfrog Zr

[@Peng_Pong]

It needs a another Z button on the left and give the select button it’s own button instead of a start/select button

[@brahmse9409]

Where's my game cube virtual console, Nintendo???

[@ProfessorCagan]

The same place Valve keeps Half Life 3.

[@tamalemuncher789]

Where are gamecube joycons first?

[@nonholographic]

If the new switch has a more advanced cpu/gpu they might add all the emulation they've been holding out on but I won't hold my breath

[@CJSai64]

I remember when the Wii U VC promised to eventually reach Gamecube games. Hah! Back when I expected great things from the ol' reliable "U." Honestly Smash is the only game keeping my Wii U dust free. After Ultimate......idk what I'll do with it tbh.

[@bland9876]

@@CJSai64 mario advanced 4 with all the "DLC" its only missing the Gameboy player Rumble support but that's not a big deal

[@alejandrowolfn]

The drifting happened also with the older controllers, is just that you moved the stick while pluging it in. When you plug the controller it "zero" the axis. If its slightly off, it will drift, just unplug it and plug it again

[@Grawbad]

Yep, this is indeed the case. I remember on N64 back in the day, if you touched the analog stick during boot up of the console it would mark whatever spot you were holding it in at the time as center and it would drift. You would need to restart the console without touching the stick for it to work properly.

[@-rami-8528]

I heard that the drifting occurs because people hold the joystick in a direction before the system boots up or when they connect it to the port, it adjusts the dead zone to the position you were holding in and makes that the neutral position, so just don’t hold the joystick when putting in the controller or when booting up the system with the controller already put it

[@infinity48]

Yeah that's exactly why it happened the same thing happens on my wii.

[@ladyinwight]

thats a thing that can cause it temporarily, but no, people actually got defective controllers

[@Katzelle3]

This kind of stuff also happens with XBox controllers. Adjusting the deadzone usually helps there. They've probably been less strict with their testing to combat supply problems and assemble more units more quickly.

[@Grawbad]

Used to happen on N64 for as well back in the day.

[@ShadowDragon-cw7wb]

Usually I just unplug and replug it in making sure its centered. Most newer controllers have a built in center coordinate that prevents this.

[@SEFullmetalJake]

It’s almost as if they had the blueprints/mould already..as if they’d made it before years previously...

[@Shoorit]

Surprise it’s the same. Amazing how the same manufacturer made the same part..

[@SEFullmetalJake]

MarcD no shit...lol

[@Shoorit]

SE FullmetalJake I’m surprised how surprised he is by it.

[@animeperson5350]

I’m surprised how surprised you are at how surprised he is

[@luminouseasportsfc]

That's crazy asf

[@Phir]

Old information before returning your "drifting" controller: When an analog stick gets out of deadzone (normally, if you turned the system on while holding the analog stick in a random direction by mistake), there were ways to reset it back to neutral if you leave analog stick in its neutral place, Hold L, R, and press, then hold A, and the Start button.

[@Aloly0490]

Or just unplug it and replug it

[@arlisbloxer05]

actually its X, Y, B and start.

[@christiancasaverdepertica1802]

I always just unplug and replug. Cool to know there's something else I can do

[@aquifer98]

Yea i unplugged it blew on the port then stuck it back in

[@MrMarinus18]

Poor quality gamecube controllers have that and that reset doesn't fix it.

[@notturok7841]

think maybe they just had warehouses full of these, and finally have the ability to sell them again

[@RPTRxCrosshairs]

"As you see, I played Smash Melee" *Rolls as Samus*

[@alexanderthegreat3674]

The wavebirds for the gamecube back in the day were awesome controllers. I still have a couple put away

[@lameashecc467]

So you can use the 2018 controllers on an original gamecube/wii?

[@SpawnWave]

Sure can!

[@imbored200]

Spawn Wave ok that’s good

[@lameashecc467]

@@SpawnWave Sweet, thanks!

[@manuelberenguerrojas7271]

I've been using mine with Nintendont on Wii U, so it should work on the original hardware.

[@BartholomewMahershalalhashbaz]

Manuel Berenguer Rojas that's the most confusing I've ever read

[@AirshBornely]

"They like to bug me with these (ads)" Perfect timing

[@crafto6881]

Maybe the drift was the controller starting up wrong because that can happen if you have a certain input during GameCube startup

[@Minecarftable]

Dude that's definitely it haha.

[@Seekeroftruth806]

30 dollars, where? they're 80-90 bucks in amazon and retail stores

[@74Vidgamer]

At launch they were $30 but now the scalpers have them, I bought the white & black models for $30 each, shocked to see what they sell for now.

[@scythescythe884]

@@74Vidgamer scalpers ruin everything. It's why GC stuff is so expensive now.

[@thomasr6623]

At gamestop.does this controller have rumble

[@firecat2465]

scalpers need to be publicly executed

[@Pigmcginnyrig]

Check Amazon, Japanese import for a little over $40.

[@oldenvye6432]

Has Nintendo ever given a straight answer as to why they've shunned analogue triggers since Gamecube?

[@foxmusic5614]

oldenvye6432 the original Wii Classic Controller also had analog triggers.

[@bland9876]

Do any games even make use of it and don't say racing games cuz just having racing games use it is not enough to justify their inclusion.

[@oldenvye6432]

Yeah, you're right it just wasn't as pronounced.

[@oldenvye6432]

I guess they'd use it if t was there but most games manage without it.

[@nitinanku]

Fox It didn’t

[@aychfriday]

I’m still confused why Nintendo never decided to make the GameCube controller their _”pro controller”_

[@lildragon6415]

I think hargefries means make a controller shaped like the GC controller, but with all the buttons and features of the Switch Pro. I would want that.

[@momyour170]

Lil Dragon PowerA has a controller like that. It just doesn’t have HD rumble or amiibo support.

[@momyour170]

mazrimalthor Well I think it’s cool

[@lildragon6415]

@mazrimalthor All they need is the stuff they can fit in the joycons...

[@supersmashmaster43]

mazrimalthor tell that to Microsoft

[@James-xx4kb]

Would be great to have another platinum GameCube controller

[@CcatVideogames]

ikr

[@chrisrichfield8906]

i still use mine 😏

[@TheAbsol7448]

I'd want an emerald one.

[@GoneFishingAway]

+mendaix Actually there is a white gamecube controller but it was a japan exclusive. You find them here in the United States but they range up for ridiculous prices.

[@yassou9007]

i want a pink gold one

[@deddrz2549]

I'm pretty sure the only real difference in internals was them removing a little metal piece from the triggers(which I'm sure you would notice if you took the trigger covers off). The mold still has places for them so they can be replaced, but the reason they left them out is because there is very nearly no change in the actual functionality or feel of the controller without it, so they saw it as an unnecessary extra part to manufacture, which it kinda is.

[@alphabyronius]

Sony has their signature controllers, Xbox kind of. You'd think Nintendo would embrace the GC controller design and all it's fan-fare and use it as their staple controller. It's only good marketing.

[@GameMasterWLC]

Ironic since Sony copied the SNES Edit:Just the controller to clarify

[@CrazyRiverOtter]

The problem with the GameCube controller is that it hasn't really stood the test of time for most games outside of ones that were already designed for the GameCube. Even if they added the missing left bumper, clickable sticks, select, home, and capture, the ABXY layout makes it a pain to play certain games where you need to, for example, push something like B and Y at the same time. Super Mario World is a nightmare to play with the thing. That's why I like it as a more niche thing that Nintendo and Hori bring back every few years.

[@PrimordialNightmare]

I think the button mapping is far less of a problem than people make it out to be, at least from a very general standpoint. Yeah shure, B+Y on GC controller is difficult. But A+Y on the XBox 360 is no better. Maybe we should push for more button remapping, like the Soul Calibur Series allows for example.

[@MilesBader]

The GC controller is my favorite of all time (it just seemed to fit my hand like a glove and was ultra-comfortable, I love the long-travel analogue triggers and the giant A button), but nowdays people want two big analogue sticks, the C-stick on the GC is just a little too tiny and uncomfortable, and the ideosyncratic button layout might not play so well with games released on multiple systems. Also I think these days people want wireless operation and rechargeable batteries, plus the other various features the Switch controllers include, and I wonder how easy it would be to fit all that stuff in the GC controller's smaller form-factor --- but now that I think about it, they fit all that into the tiny joycons, so maybe it wouldn't be a big problem? Still, perhaps they could make a new controller with the GC controller form-factor (sooo comfortable) and the extra features of the Pro Controller and a bigger C-stick...?

[@NeonKnight83]

Miles Bader - as for the larger sticks and multiplat games, remember during the PS2/Xbox/GCN era there were a lot of multiplat games on the GameCube back then. I never had a problem using a GameCube controller over my PS2 DualShock.

[@JesseAndMike]

Cool! Definitely one of the best controllers ever made! :D

[@Sairot247]

No

[@brandonjoseph1106]

@@Sairot247 Yes. It is because it's the only controller that has aged the best in gaming history. Just tell me what other controller has been occurring for over 16 years.

[@Sairot247]

@@brandonjoseph1106 Dualshock?

[@brandonjoseph1106]

@@Sairot247 there have been different dualshock controllers throughout the years with improved functionality, however GC controllers have stayed the same for almost 20 years.

[@squidwardstesticles5914]

I wouldn’t say it’s the best controller ever, because modern innovations have improved controller designs a lot. I would say that it’s definitely held up the best compared to every other retro controller though

[@mrbrocephus3849]

I’m glad I still have my OG controllers for the Gamecube. I’m looking forward to smash bros.

[@xXhay18Xx]

Uh oh there are only 2 reasons why i can think he has a scale like that....

[@SpawnWave]

Ha it's for shipping some of the giveaways I promise :)

[@xXhay18Xx]

@@SpawnWave oh ok ;) lets go with that

[@matthewwilliams9200]

lol side job incase he has you tube issues to resolve I see lol...

[@leviwarren6222]

He's being sponsored by Stamps.com!

[@richardaaron4454]

xXhay18Xx I saw this comment before the scale and was expecting a triple beam scale. Maybe that’s because I’m probably older than everyone else here though.

[@TaIathar]

Just wanted to say that your review was really well done. You covered a lot of stuff in relatively good time and still managed to add in your opinion in a way that was easy to digest and not attacking anyone. Really just great quality content. 10/10

[@brokenpianotunes1923]

I love the tri-wing screws because they are near impossible to strip, I use them on most of my DIY projects when I'm building random stuff just to make it easier to tear down later.

[@timdrake2020]

IF you have drifting or need to recenter your joystick Hold X, Y and Start for 3 seconds to stop your cursor from drifting.

[@skizzlers2756]

It makes me so happy that the gamecube controller is avalible for the switch so many years later ❤💛💚💙💜

[@CyberDragon10K]

I remember mentioning that you should do this comparison with another user in another of your videos! Glad to see it happen. And I'm so glad I pre-ordered both of these too... although a Wavebird would be nice to try (I never had one when I was younger).

[@erickehh]

Digital scale? Spawnwave confirmed for cocaine dealer

[@BrutusBongo]

Or he weighs his portions ;)

[@LordSnoodles]

It might explain how wound up he is

[@brayancastillo6852]

Imma buy the new series to have next to my old black one

[@DoctorMinjinx]

So glad to see Gamecube controllers still alive in 2018. They're a bit too out of date for Switch games but perfect for...Well GameCube games. I just wish they sold them in the GameCube controller color brand besides black. You know, indigo, platinum, spice and maybe even that illusive emerald one. Not a big deal though, I can just use the shells from the old ones I have that may be breaking or broken.

[@JerseyDevils21]

I remember getting a gamecube controller from a 5 below 6 years ago and in surprised it still works well, vibration and all

[@vvtechnokingvv]

Love your tech waves and your breakdowns. Looking forward to what you have planned next!!!

[@matthewwilliams9200]

its identical I bet if you swapped it it would work in either. I'm sold

[@Yipper64]

welp looks like just a year later they arent in stores anymore. my goodness supply and demand for this controller is insane.

[@BurningBaboon]

Dude, that was so informative. Thank you for making this video!

[@HiImTylerr]

The drift is not a controller malfunction. If you hold any direction on the controller while plugging it in, it will lock that direction until you either reset the controller or replug it.

[@timdrake2020]

There are bars in the Original GCN Triggers on the controller that is not in the 2014 or 2018 GCN SSB Controller Triggers

[@lithiumssb]

some of the later controllers from around 2005 and the white gamecube controller for ssbb also dont have the braces

[@goilup]

So let me explain here, MITSUMI and a few other manufacturers made the gamecube controllers, your platinum one was made not by MITSUMI as they clearly state their logo on the pcbs, I prefer the MITSUMI ones and the easiest way to tell is that most of them were made on launch and the screws that were used turned to a somewhat bronze color.

[@mitsorret7408]

A lot of Original GameCube controllers had drifting issues and I hated it, but the controllers when they didn't malfunction were amazing.

[@rajvinder89]

Nice to see I wasn't the only one to think to whip out my OG controller to see if they changed anything for this model, which they basically didn't except for the plastic casing. For those of you trying to use it on Widows with the new adaptor for the Switch it works identically to the Wii U version.

[@lookoutitsjax]

Hmm, I’ve already bought the Special Edition of Ultimate with the Pro Controller, but I might buy the adaptor and GC controller down the line when I have the money.

[@MotorcitycrownsPod]

Get the power a wireless one

[@GiodyneSTG]

I've done the same thing lol

[@JustinK0]

i played melee for years, no way ill ever play a smash game without a gamecube controller lol already have the adapter back when they sold it for the wiiu, and still have my old gamecube controllers.

[@Oldsul]

Can't afford the Special Edition Pro controller, this'll be a good consolation

[@christiancasaverdepertica1802]

I need to get the adapter again. I still have three original controllers, and two new ones. I love them

[@eliasco8349]

Do you plan to review the PowerA wireless Gamecube controller ?

[@PluckyD]

Was on the fence about buying one, now I've got my answer! Thank you for the thorough review! Totally subscribed!

[@AdventVFX]

Thank you so much for letting people know about the drift issue on these controllers, I mean there's definitely ones that worked but after having to return 2 controllers it definitely is an issue worth knowing.

[@Griffnix]

Ooh, early tech breakdown or a bonus video for the week?

[@geheim6398]

It triggers me so god damn hard that I didn't bought some of these ...

[@RoseyMapleGoth]

You're not alone. 😭

[@johnodaz1273]

Really nice tech vid Jon(SW). The 2018 GC Controller is so authentic and faithful too the Original GC Controller which is so cool too see.

[@owencheung4224]

If Nintendo sold rechargeable wavebirds they’d be sold out within 4 hours Edit: typo

[@robinrai4973]

tldr: Same as GC controllers as wii u version, and they're both in turn the same as the original GC controllers but missing the trigger braces that just make the triggers a bit more stable. The original GC controller had either thin buttons and thick rubbers, or thin rubbers and thick buttons, whereas the newer ones just have the thin rubber thick buttons. Pretty much the same.

[@Andrew-ww1hz]

Oof there are so many people that will argue the missing trigger braces completely ruins the newer ones. Are you saying the 2018 ones also don't have them?

[@robinrai4973]

@@Andrew-ww1hz The triggers sticking aren't caused by the lack of braces and can be fixed with some lubricant. All of the wii u and ultimate controllers don't have them. Even if you do want the braces you can make them out of paper clips. There's a dude with lots of info on gc controllers, zenith ssbm on youtube.

[@nintendomain4956]

The buttons feel like they don’t go good when making the design of the controller LMAO

[@BatLB]

Thank you for taking the effort off my shoulders to rip them apart myself. I was super curious if beside the different plastic joypad ANYTHING changed. You are amazing dude, love your content, thanks alot for this!

[@moraigna66]

Things melee pros most look for in a GC controller all gace to do with the jostick: 1) Amount of snapback from the joystick: when coming back to center position after being hit in one direction, does it register values in the opposite direction? 2) Rotational displacement from the joystick/ gate precision: when you hold the joystick firmly at a 45 degree angle against the gate, do the x and y values registered actually reflect that? 3) General feel of the joystick, even though this one really comes down to preference.

[@dragonborn4125]

Would like to know how the power A controller stacks up to the original

[@blueknight0782]

NintendoLife reviewed it, along with a couple others. The powerA and the original were at the top. Personally, I'm really thinking about the powerA.

[@potatolol4579]

11:55 *STOP SHAKING IT ABOUT*

[@based_will]

I pre ordered 3 of them and the adapter 6 months ago, lol. Wanted to make sure I got them. They compliment my OG silver controller just like the one you show for a set of 4.

[@hikikomorphi]

Nice! I asked for this video and am glad to see it! Thank you very much.

[@kaibaCorpHQ]

Definitely gotta hand it to Nintendo, they did a really good job on those new controllers.

[@getcraig55]

The best controller of all time that came with a gaming console without buying like a pro controller.. I’m got mines GameCube controller already.. so ready for Smash Bros now

[@zacharystevens6193]

Gamecube is one of my favorite older consoles. I dont understand why people love its controller so much though. It doesn't feel all that great compared to the Switch Pro controller, PS4 controller and Xbox one controller.

[@getcraig55]

Zachary Stevens that’s the thing is not a pro controller it’s jus a regular standard controller.. that what makes it so great

[@weaverquest]

@@getcraig55 He said is it not as great compared to standard PS4 and Xbox One controller at the end of his sentence lol

[@zacharystevens6193]

@mendaix I agree with you about the Xbox One controller its amazing. I dont have a Xbox One but, I bought a controller for my PC and its incredible.

[@LightsaberPhoenix]

@mendaix I completely agree, the Xbox One controller is great, though I prefer the Switch Pro controller over it. The Elite however... man that one is in a league of its own. I have yet to find a controller that beats it. In terms of overall feeling, nothing comes even close

[@LunalynDragon]

drift also occurs if you are holding a direction on the stick when the system is starting up / first recognizing the controller, so always try unplugging it and plugging it back in without touching the stick / any buttons on the controller if you have that problem

[@Artictoc]

I had a platinum controller too back in the day. Unfortunately, during the winter we had heaters in our rooms because it got so damn cold, and my nephew placed my platinum controller right in front of one, causing it bend horribly. It can still be used, but it's practically split open.

[@Vaxtin]

I have 3 of those silver Dol 003 model GC controllers from the SSB-Brawl days. They are dusty AF but they work. And one has a slightly chewed Left thumb stick that's missing the rubber. Because young dogs.

[@justanotheryoutubechannel]

Ironically I just brought an old one the other day. If these new ones are just as good I’ll probably buy these instead next time.

[@edgaravilac2753]

@Tsugatr buy a cheap Chinese knock off and replace the cover plates

[@edgaravilac2753]

@Tsugatr look up "teal game cube controllers"

[@edgaravilac2753]

@Tsugatr actually not gonna lie that happens to be the color of the emerald Gc controller which is expensive, and I don't think there's a cheap one of those

[@edgaravilac2753]

@Tsugatr try going for some paint instead look up tutorials , I painted my first one and it was pretty easy

[@Cyrus_Bright]

Still have my original GameCube and controller, love that thing. Melee and Paper Mario TTYD definitely my favorite games from the system.

[@StephonZeno]

I just think it's awesome that my GC controllers I got back in 2004 are still working. Aside from the Y button on one of them requiring more pressure to register an input, I'm really surprised. Nintendo products really are built to last.

[@V0idedOut-E33]

Honestly the one gripe I have with it is the smash exclusivity. I think adding another Z button on the other shoulder, and adding Home Menu, Capture, Plus and Minus wouldn't change the overall design that much. They have some room on the board to fit that in, right?

[@frozengamer3030]

The official GameCube controllers are damm expensive.

[@Howwy191]

I think the drift might be the neutral position being off. With the n64 and gamecube the analogue stick neutral position is set to whatever position the stick is in when it recieves power, if someone fiddles with the sticks on startup or rests their thumbs on them in a way that pushes them off at startup then they will drift. Thankfully you can fix that by unplugging and replugging them in without touching the sticks or for the cube hold start, x and 6 for 3 seconds while not touching the sticks to reset the neutral position.

[@dezmannvondo6585]

Howwy191 thx

[@tomdiewoodys4386]

I met the gcn HD adapter people at the retro gaming expo. VERY nice people they were very nice to me.

[@MarktheMartian]

the cord is 9 to 9.5 feet long

[@Oniphire]

So probably 3 metres.

[@billable1861]

That’s half a foot of discrepancy mark... length matters buddy lol

[@MattM-24]

The cord is 3m, or roughly 9.8ft. This was changed in the last version of the GameCube controller in 2008, released in a white color and exclusively to Japan. As you can see, they've continued this with the new Wii U and Switch rereleased controllers

[@zg910]

I like videos like this, I enjoy seeing the parts and especially how older versions compare to newer. I just don't get the hype for the GC Controllers. Are they really that much better for Smash or is it just a nostalgia thing? I understand in the case of "I still own/play my GC" it would be nice to have. I also know we each have our preferences for controller types, just wondering if there is something I'm missing when it comes to these controllers (Owned a GC when it came out, loved the console, controller felt awkward in my hands).

[@CursedWulfGaming]

I think they are better for smash but not so much so that you couldn't win with a different controller

[@Andrew-ww1hz]

People are simply used to the layout (and ergonomics) since Melee, and because GC controllers have been the main 1st party wired options, they're great for tournament play where you need to minimize input lag. If you're not worried about the competitive scene though, it really doesn't matter.

[@felynemaster8360]

Idk, i just needed a second controller for my NGC

[@wh0_am_152]

The reason why it looks so similar inside is because the design is already there, and I am pretty sure the they are using much of the original machinery to produce these controllers.

[@Shoorit]

Yep. All the moulds and drawings still available so they just restarted production.

[@oricvinton77]

Weight can also depend on how rigid the cable is, The cable could be holding the control up slightly on the new one. Measure with the cable not being supported by anything. (tie it up and put in on the control or have it hang over the edge of the table without it touching it at all)

[@RoundPi]

Don't fix what ain't broke, that's why we still have tri-wing screws. uwu

[@TheReZisTLust]

Dont remake what's broke. - Darth Vader

[@Shoorit]

The tri wing screws are more of an anti tamper thing. So 8year old Harry can’t just grab the little screwdriver he got in a Christmas cracker and take it apart.

[@Dankster84]

I know i shouldn’t ask this in the comments but. I need some help Is it ok/normal that the triggers on my gamecube controller read as the “L” and “R” bumper like a pro controller. And the small purple “z” buttons reads as a trigger on a pro controller Basically what I’m saying is, are the triggers and bumpers swapped on the GameCube controller. It would be rlly cool if you guys help me out 🙂

[@rafalbork1]

That's normal.

[@-rami-8528]

Basically the Z button is read as the “ZL” button on a pro controller, and the L and R triggers are read as “L and R” bumpers on the pro controller

[@Dankster84]

Rami Odeh ok thank you so much!

[@rafalbork1]

@@Dankster84 It allows you to play Puyo Puyo Tetris using the GC controller. I couldnt be able to do that otherwise.

[@-rami-8528]

Dankster84 quick correction. The Z button is read as the ZR button, sorry for the confusion

[@thepotato513]

I can confirm that Gamecube controllers in general can have drifting issues. My friend has a platinum controller that drifts almost every time it's plugged in. Something interesting to note is that the value the joystick is pointing to gets saved as an offset when you plug in the controller. If you're accidentally holding the control stick outside of the neutral position when you plug the controller in you *will* get drift and if that's the case you can fix it by unplugging the controller or plugging it back in

[@Merik2013]

Its funny how I this video came up for just as I was finishing up servicing MY 2018 smash pad (right shoulder had a noisy spring that needed some minor adjustments). I also see we both use the same crappily molded Foxnovo triwing screwdrivers.

[@pepijnw.357]

30$ more like 150$

[@jed4276]

The jokes 4 years ago were so different....

[@syamayama]

I hate that they put the smash logo on it! Why didn't they just put the Nintendo logo there??

[@arepic3258]

sangminlee1234 Because it released for Smash Bros

[@pooandgee6023]

So that people would not get confused over the actual Gamecube controller and Smash controller?

[@sleepbelts]

because it's a special edition

[@xSephironx]

I had a heart attack when you bent those ribbon cables alllllll the way back like that

[@Whatnoww]

People forget that you have to leave the controller in a neutral position when plugging it in since callibration occures on connect.

[@timdrake2020]

Hyperkin Wii Cable for $25 on original Wii's look just as good as EONs $100 adapter for GCN games

[@CcatVideogames]

and even for people who really want to use the gc and not the wii theres a console mod which is 40$ though its not user friendly

[@Kingpin3k]

Oh No, the Output is much worse on the Wii. Hyperkin converts the analog signal to a digital HDMI Signal. The GameCube one is an digital to digital converter. Which is much better

[@timdrake2020]

@mendaixI have both. There is no tech difference at all. Enable progressive scan on the Wii plug in the $25 hyperkin cable, and enjoy. I got the EON converter box about 2 months before I got the Hyperkin and I have been using my Wii ever since. The original Wii is great I can play SSB64, SSBM, and SSBB on one system with 4 GCN Controllers.

[@timdrake2020]

@@Kingpin3k nope your wrong the Hyperkin does only one thing convert Nintendos Wii port signal to HDMI port signal. If you want the Wii to output digital for all games including GCN games you set it up in the Wii menu. No more holding buttons.

[@timdrake2020]

@@Kingpin3k you see the Wii port is a digital port. Both the GCN EON, Wii Hyperkin cable both do the same thing convert signal to HDMI.

[@itdatboiii]

I wish the new controllers were just USB

[@WindyREDPanda]

USB GameCube controllers do exist.

[@itdatboiii]

@@WindyREDPanda yea but I doubt it will work with the switch

[@bland9876]

I'm glad they're not USB because I actually own a GameCube and needed some new controllers

[@-rami-8528]

This adds compatibility to the GameCube and wii

[@mitchmanexe243]

@@bland9876 I'm in the same boat, my origional 4 controllers still work fine but I want some backups for when they start messing up.

[@ExFragMaster]

While watching this, i am cleaning my old, still working "Wavebird" in preparation of those sweet sweet hours with Smash! I Love this controller, it weights like 1.5 classic controllers but long sessions are way more confortable with it :)

[@thejamesthird]

I remember the platinum plastics always felt different compared to other game cube controllers. The chords are 9.8ft or 3 meters.

[@jovani6044]

*HERE BEFORE THE FIRST DISLIKE NOTIFICATION SQUAD WHERE U AT?*

[@CyberDragon10K]

I see the like/dislike bar at 62/0 from the time I clicked on the video. Yay, brownie points!

[@mathpc4047]

In your ass

[@Mr28d23]

@@CyberDragon10K 471/8 how may points is that?

[@zombieraichu2114]

Use grams. Don't say I'm only saying that because I'm not American, because I live in CT. Metric is more accurate, you dote

[@sneakysnail9225]

Too bad lmao

[@weatheronthe8s895]

Zombie Raichu there’s not necessarily anything more accurate about metric. It’s just easier to convert between units. All accuracy is is how close you measure to what it actually is. The only way it could be more accurate is if it was luckily closer by the number of significant digits on the scale not being enough and making it closer by just the one item. I’m used to the American system so it’s easier for me to gauge how much of something is in my head. It’s the same with others for metric. I think it’s better to try and just have both systems since that’s pretty much how it is.

[@Kobk.e]

I bought an OG black GC controller for cheap in a store at my city, it was basically like new, I do feel like the old plastic feels much better and sturdy for me though

[@fivemillionthreehundredeig5696]

The scale probably varied because most scales make you zero it out before weighing something else, that one looked like it does.

[@SilverwingStudios]

Oh my stars. Do not tell people to throw GameCube controllers into soapy water. That is the epitome of horrible advice. Water erodes the circuit board and soap leaves a residue. That's a great way to ruin the longevity of your gear. ALWAYS clean electrical connections with isopropyl alcohol of the highest percentage you can come by, using a small, clean nylon paintbrush. Seriously. Holy shit, dude. No. If you're going to present yourself as an expert, do your dang homework. Sheesh.

[@MrMarinus18]

More importantly soap speeds up corrosion and also destroys the rubber pads. That is actually by design as the oxidation helps remove filth. The residue it leaves is oxide. It is also a base and that helps get rid of fat that the body produces to keep the skin subtle. With alcohol though it doesn't have the oxidation property it is still a base as well and with the rubber pads of the gamecube controller it's best to be careful. Water itself isn't actually damaging but it is key that you make sure it's dry before sealing it up again. Making something 100% dry is quite difficult and that's why alcohol is preferred as it vaporizes easily.

[@PrimordialNightmare]

Am I the only one that thinks he said to put the plastic shell into sopay water? I mean he was holding one part of the case, without electronics or rubber as far as I could see and said put this into soapy water.

[@MrMarinus18]

@@PrimordialNightmare A controller is not water tight.

[@KapnHook]

He’s talking about the plastics. Please don’t go around calling people idiots when you don’t even know what you’re talking about.

[@imnotemoipromise7561]

My aunt used to have a platnum gamecube along with the platnum controller and she gave it to us because my cousins didnt want it so we tried it out and it was AWSOME.

[@TefenCa]

*THANKS* Saved me the time of taking mine apart!

[@My1xT]

regarding controller drift. for GC cons and also the Wii nunchuk, the sticks use auto-center on connect/startup so generally make sure that you dont move the sticks while connecting.