How Cold Is It In Frostpunk?

[@hermannabt8361]

And yet, even during the storm, you can see topless boxers fighting in the arena.

[@majormajorasic]

Gotta keep warm somehow!

[@9Hatman]

nice

[@Qardo]

Boxers are just built different, lol.

[@kx7500]

That’s because they’re hot

[@calebjohnson6014]

Balls was hot

[@tonymondelli1732]

And then there’s that one absolute GIGACHAD father who bring his daughter back DURING the blizzard.

[@pablosanz2163]

And the daughter , remember she is out in the blizzar to

[@popeallahsnack-bar9804]

@@pablosanz2163 nah the daughter would be as good as dead with her gigaDad

[@theangrysocialist6884]

​@@popeallahsnack-bar9804but they didn't die so the Higa Chad family still remains

[@Penguinmanereikel]

Oh, so he's guaranteed to bring her back? I'd have let him, but I had no rations. (It's hard getting resource production balanced out 😅)

[@leatheryfoot6354]

Dude must've been doing Wim Hoff breathes.

[@dantesparda14175]

The storm in Frostpunk was masterclass in game design. They masterfully made a scenario that put you in the mindset of “The city must survive”. I’d given myself the challenge of not crossing the line while playing and somehow I pulled it off despite sending several miners to their deaths to fix the coal mines.

[@guillermoservin3301]

Yeah but the miners dilemma wasnt even a dilemma. It was their lives or your coal production would drop 80%. That means the city freezes when you run out of coal and they die anyway

[@chimbrazz]

​@@guillermoservin3301yeah, it's basically "do you think you have enough coal for the storm"

[@shanewhite1977]

This is why thumpers run by Automatons and then steam coal thumpers are op with Gathering huts run buy automatons

[@omgused]

​@@shanewhite1977according to wiki, if the mines are worked by automatons this event does not trigger whatever the operating temps are

[@shanewhite1977]

@omgused and that is why there are strong with little to no downside if you plan properly

[@Eddy_Grimm]

How cold is Frostpunk? Yes.

[@LoreTours]

Indeed

[@conq1273]

Indubitably

[@pinkiepie6443]

Undeniably

[@Muno95]

Unquestionably

[@spotlessmind9263]

surreptitiously

[@silveredbullet802]

And no matter how cold, we have the scouts, designation, "No Complainus, Big Dickkus".

[@falsofalsofalso3348]

hahahahahahhahahah, i loved that reference

[@El_Negro2003]

Biggus dickus lolll

[@alessiogiovannetti513]

Fighting polar bears in -90 C weather after traveling for miles to save a group of survivors? I don’t see the problem, BRING IT ON YOU OVERSIZED BADGER!

[@El_Negro2003]

@@falsofalsofalso3348 biggus mickus

[@CromwellEdonis]

Incognitia Buttocks

[@allpixelsmatter5471]

and there will still be that one person that will be walking around barefoot in shorts and a Hot Topic shirt

[@raiderrivers3629]

What do you mean it’s cold it’s only like -140° Celsius I’ll put on a sweater when it hits -160° Celsius. Said while icicles are forming from his beard

[@PraetorPaktu]

The Iceblood faction in Frostpunk 2 got ya covered there.

[@DomWeasel]

Damn Geordies.

[@dragonoflocniroth]

Me fr

[@MrGrumblier]

Ah, you mean the Canadians and Russians.

[@kylex6574]

If it's cold enough to be around the temperature liquid nitrogen can exist, the atmosphere should also start to rain or snow down as the gas cools and condenses

[@aurelien5747]

I have very little knowledge on this but if there’s a different pressure maybe the oceans of nitrogen can exist? But then idk about effects on the snow and water

[@SolZaer]

It does look like columns of snow falling in the city as if it's rain during the storm, maybe that's what's happening

[@popeallahsnack-bar9804]

I believe liquid nitrogen can only exist at high pressures

[@kacpecie]

Well -150 won’t get you close to liquid nitrogen. That happens around -190. Before nitrogen can liquify, oxygen in the atmosphere would fall in a rain as it’s boiling point is smaller. Which would mean that everyone would asphyxiate during to lack of oxygen in the atmosphere.

[@romanscum5678]

​@SolZaer It might be CO2 deposition out of the air honestly

[@crispymormon5977]

I'm pretty sure at this point that the temperature gauge is measuring the rim of the ice around the city, and not the city itself. the rim is subject to Windchill while the crater is not. Because otherwise at the height of the storm steel would become so brittle it wouldn't be able to hold its own weight.

[@robertagren9360]

The gauge would had stopped working

[@danimationd8886]

Isn't it on the game ? The temprature gauge only shows the temprature of the ice and surrounding the city and not the city itself... since temprature on the city are vary, depending how many heater, facilities, or what setting that generator uses.

[@TheExtraMiles456]

I think the atmosphere would freeze too lmao

[@jamesmcintyre2676]

So, with a bit more context having played the game.....THIS HAPPENS. The mine dilemma occurs during the great storm because the support structures have gotten so cold they've begun buckling and collapasing on themselves. You're left either sacrificing lives and steam cores to heat it back up, or permanently losing two thirds of your coal access (production).

[@steamtasticvagabond474]

@@jamesmcintyre2676I discovered by accident that the mines don’t freeze if you actually heat them.

[@atomicexistentialism8428]

So canonically the snow you see at the end of the game is actually carbon dioxide snow. I presume the temperature also includes wind chill. Hence why all the cities are built with shelter in mind

[@Forsworcen]

I remember playing for the first time, making it to the Great Storm and seeing the temperature and realizing the silvery streams falling down aren’t snow, they’re dry ice.

[@Echo_the_half_glitch]

What the hell did the humans of frostpunk do to make it snow/hail dry ice?

[@Thraxus]

@@Echo_the_half_glitch Its kinda natural. Dimming of the sun combined with eruptions of two stratovolcanoes in Asia, Krakatoa and Mount Tambor, the former of which erupted historically around the same time as in game while the latter erupted in 1815 and alongside perhaps other eruptions, caused global famine and a year with no summer because of the cooling. Frostpunk is just what happens if all of this happened at once, along with the sun dimming and potentially some other stuff, which fucks the climate long term and disrupts a lot of the natural processes.

[@Echo_the_half_glitch]

@Thraxus Ooh, that makes more sense. I haven't played the game (I don't have a computer or money to), but I've watched videos on it.

[@AnanYMouse-pj7uw]

Where does "carbon dioxide snow" come into play

[@legoman5491]

Except that one prisoner worker who was bugged out and was working to bring in metal, and survived.

[@romanplays1]

that and the absolute chad of a father who went to get his escaped child. and came back DURING THE BLIZZARD.

[@hainleysimpson1507]

The humans here are evolving.

[@alephkasai9384]

​@@hainleysimpson1507Would not be surprised, even if small, adaptations to the extreme temperatures would start appearing in the population eventually

[@jasperzanovich2504]

@@romanplays1 Gotta be genetic considering his daughter ran off, now I am not certain how old his daughter is but I really would like to know how she ran off with icewalls surrounding the entire city. Are the lifts not locked down somehow or did she climb that sheer icewall by herself? And after that she walked through the frozen wasteland, even my very well equiped scouts come back sick.

[@wyatteason1876]

That just makes even more crazy how good there insulation would have to be

[@astillia6073]

Also a massive coal generator burning at max output pumping heat to them

[@zeppelinled3967]

they are living in a burning oven and when the blizzard hits it gets icy even then p.p

[@minhducnguyen9276]

With their technical level it'd be wood. But it doesn't mean wood is bad though, the first man who reached south poles used wooden ships on both of his expeditions to the South. The metallurgy for his time wasn't good enough to make steel that won't turn brittle at such low temperature. Wood on the other hand can retain some of its flexibility. Not to mention steel may interfere with the working of compasses when you are getting close to the poles.

[@dazedandconfused5711]

@@minhducnguyen9276 Tech in Frostpunk is *much* more advanced than the standard 1800's. Its very steampunk, safe to assume they have proper steel.

[@simonnachreiner8380]

Honestly it's not that hard to get near perfect insulation. Remember staying warm is about keeping heat in. Just keeping heat loss lower than generation is enough. The larger a space the slower the rate of thermal transfer. It's why it takes so long for water to freeze thick as the growing ice provide insulation.

[@LORDOFDORKNESS42]

When the Great Storm hits, you can actually see these silvery streams rain down quite often. That's dry ice, AKA CO₂ freezing directly out of the air.

[@sanguine2552]

What is frostpunk? Never heard of or seen any hype for this game and I game all the time

[@Sir_Hammock]

@@sanguine2552 its a game about frost and punks edit; i would love to explain in detail what this game really is but just dont know what to describe it as

[@VolumousSyrup]

​@sanguine2552 it's a survival city management game during an ice age-like post-apocalypse. You play as the ruler of the town and have to make decisions to continue its survival, these decisions evolve/progress the town in various ways good and bad, while forcing you to make tough choices. It also includes skill trees and child labor. The goal is to survive x number of days. It's been a long time since I've played so that's all I can remember

[@Sappho_]

@@sanguine2552 is a city management game, but hardcore, its about making sacrifices to survive, its hard to explain it in a way that makes it justice, but trust me, its cool asf

[@TheConnoiseurofTheArtofSnort]

​@@sanguine2552It's a great game, look it up

[@mr.pilgrim1241]

And there's good ole Fridtjof Nansen and his team not only going *towards* the great storm, but guiding survivors through it. Frostpunk devs did him justice.

[@alessiogiovannetti513]

Who is this guy?

[@liszarezo3658]

@@alessiogiovannetti513 One of the most famous nord pole explorer.

[@alessiogiovannetti513]

@@liszarezo3658 there is THAT guy among the survivors?

[@liszarezo3658]

@@alessiogiovannetti513 Yes but no. We pick up his people few times, but he was somehere else all the time, and the last time he was seen on the way to blizzard, where he belived was "somethik" needed to save humanity.

[@alessiogiovannetti513]

@@liszarezo3658 balls of titanium

[@AimlessSavant]

the last event in the base game IS SO COLD CARBON DIOXIDE STARTS FALLING AS SNOW.

[@leotox6423]

Imagine being hit by a chunk of dry ice that came flying through your window at fuck off speed.

[@Blewlongmun]

@@leotox6423 The speed is really something to consider; all that volume rapidly condensing and subliming would kick up some crazy winds. It would probably be literal ice grenades throwing shrapnel, the ground would pop for days

[@PineappleDealer37]

It was strongly suggested in the game that windchill was a major point to the "-150°C" - i temember someone plopping some numbers into a weather calculator and he found that at about -90°C the huricane winds we were told about in the game would make it effectively about -150°C sensed temperature (the temperature your body feels)

[@chucknutly3290]

So it's between a little chilly and considerably nippy. Got it.

[@cleocatra740]

-150 degrees? Yeah a tent should be fine

[@Vilkku_taken]

''Worse than london'' achievement be like:

[@YeetIsHere]

For a few seconds maybe

[@mandrac2]

Worked in a food processing factory where we had massive walk in freezers at -40°c and you were not supposed to stay in there more than 4 minute without protective clothes. In there my wet cut proof gloves would freeze solid to a point you could make them stand upright in less than 2 minutes

[@chocolatecake6588]

What the hell were you guys storing at -40C lol?

[@mandrac2]

@@chocolatecake6588 Every finished products were stored in there. The factory was specialized in frozen food. There was another freezer this one at -20 which had a huge spiraling conveyor belt running through it. This freezer had huge fans blowing in it so even though it was "hoter" than the other the wind would make it feel just as cold. The products would get out steaming hot of the oven then directly trough that freezer for like 20 minute and would come out frozen solid.

[@batznocharge]

@@mandrac2I want this job I want cold where apply?

[@mandrac2]

@@batznocharge Not sure this is the job you want. When i was working there we didn't get to go in the freezer very often. Also it's a food processing plant so you have to be fully suited up, gloves, face mask, bouffant cap, and the machines are regularily rinsed with steaming hot water so you often work engulfed in steam. Oh and let's not forget the two 50 meter long open oven that are belching hot air constantly.

[@diamondmetal3062]

At that point, the only thing keeping the town living is the heat of the generator, and even then it’s probably only doing so by raising the temperature in the city to Vostok levels.

[@alphastronghold715]

The thing generates so much heat it can melt the ice at 80 C below. When the whiteout hits and it drops to -150, the generator is powerful enough to drop it to at least -70. Then it would be possible to survive within an insulated shelter. It’s not going to be very comfortable, like trying to live in a meat locker, but it’s doable. Just don’t ever get too close or too far from the generator and you’ll be fine.

[@astillia6073]

The great storm would make the outside air feel like a cold fire if you were exposed to it. So brutal but so awesome

[@jessekane6534]

Banger of a game

[@Pertruabo]

Im waiting for Frostpunk2. Very hyped for that

[@spyderxx6309]

@@Pertruabo :) how is it?

[@Pertruabo]

​@@spyderxx6309 I haven't played it, downloading it rn

[@_numbnutss]

@@spyderxx6309it’s sucks 😂

[@spyderxx6309]

@@_numbnutss wasn't asking you :P

[@souls_eater307]

You would still find some mf wearing shorts in that storm

[@leanflavoredpringles2353]

That mf is me. I am the mf in shorts and a t-shirt.

[@concept5631]

You would be an icy statue in no time. ​@@leanflavoredpringles2353

[@arcaneowls9102]

“Nah im not cold.” 🥶

[@silver_vanguard6025]

Reminds me of the movie “Day after tomorrow” where a helicopter in an ice storm completely froze solid in midair,crashed,and the crew froze solid as soon as they open the door.

[@DomWeasel]

First time I played and the temperature dropped that low, I yelled at the screen 'OH COME ON! Petrol freezes at that temperature!'

[@CodexQuinn]

GOOD THING WE USE COAL THE COAL LIFE NEVER LEAVES

[@AVAtistar]

Yeah, dad kind of ruined for me. There was no need for temperature to go that low other than having nice multiples of 10.

[@DomWeasel]

@@AVAtistar ... What did your dad do?

[@AVAtistar]

@@DomWeasel *that

[@dancingsilence7828]

Huh thats insane, and here I am having the entire city's real estate be renovated from bunkhouses to houses during the storm

[@MrTempoedoeloe]

When -20°C was considered acceptable for human

[@Mix-pk6ck]

Since most of the northern people survive such temperature pretty much every winter(sometimes even autumn and spring) and even go outside every day and work.

[@Kaspiderv2]

Its pretty normal up here, bit of a pain in the ass,but otherwise not a big deal if youre protected enough. Its not like cars stop working on those temps or anything.

[@aldgisel]

Where is it NOT acceptable? Are you from some Texas or Florida?

[@billberg1264]

I've been outside in almost -40. Granted, I was only out long enough to get from my workplace to the truck and then from the truck to my house.

[@sayvan1606]

Even -50C is acceptable

[@sevenseven7990]

I remember during the great storm, i had been ill prepared understocked and lost a scout team. I did not expect the city to survive but i held the city together with faith and sacrifice. Every chance i got i would preform a sermon and i can almost imagine the captin standing aloaf shouting prayers into the cold wind giving hope to the citizens to keep pushing. We lost a lot of people but in the end the city survived.

[@toddoverholt4556]

I think the temperature being that cold is mostly the effect of the storm itself and the intense winds and extremel weather. The wind chill, basically.

[@alphastronghold715]

Actually, no. It’s because the earth has drifted away from the sun. The temperatures on Mars range from between -22 degrees Celsius to -153 degrees Celsius. Sound like a familiar range?

[@floridamanwentwild4411]

I saw someone do the math and that at the coldest in frost punk it is the Theoretical temperature of the north pole on Mars

[@thegeneralissimo470]

I really think they should have put it in 5 degree increments rather than 10 degree. Puts it more in line with how it would and could be in real life

[@Sampfire]

Most people are dumb or "ignorant" they would see it as "just chilly" thus giving a bigger margin in temperatures is "more pleasant in the eyes". Avarage/casual gamer wouldn't understand how severe is the temperature

[@TuberTugger]

Something to keep in mind about cold. Colder doesn't necessarily mean quicker. The rate of heat exchange is limited by the amount of temperature the air around you can conduct. This is why you can do that thing where you sit in a hot tub and then run around naked in the snow. -150 is definitely cold but it's more a maximum coldness than a speed of freezing. I've lived in -40C winters. It's cold but the first 30 seconds or so that you're outside is just as bad as -20C. It's not how quickly you freeze, it's how cold you can get, past a certain point. So it's very unlikely you'd "freeze instantanously" stepping into -150C. Sort of like how being exposed to the vacuum of space doesn't instantly freeze you even though it's at nearly absolute zero. Heat exchange just doesn't work like that. You need to pass that energy off to something and it has hard limits by the medium.

[@philipgrimler7856]

I often tend to compare real world temperatures to frostpunks during game play to get a sense of scale and the differences are staggering.

[@lunkycultist5519]

Scouts: "is that all?"

[@gledtrain]

Never cold enough to stop that father looking for his kid during the storm o7

[@Dawnerst]

“Oh no… thats too col- HEY GET BACK TO WORK!!”

[@李一舟-b2l]

The Chad scouts who travel for a day straight carrying a shit ton of supplies back to new London during the giant blizzard: 🗿🗿🗿🗿🗿

[@Jedai_Games]

Aren't Scouts dying when they are in Storm?

[@sometimewith_nohelp909]

Bro almost all gases free at that low

[@cmmpr111]

Freeze*

[@JoshSweetvale]

Fun fact, it's functionally impossible for temperatures to dip below -100C on real Earth. No natural disaster could do this. Whatever Frostpunk's backstory, it's more likely they did something wrong on a cosmic level.

[@Illier1]

Lore Wise before the Great Frost occurred scientists found out the sun was dimming. We can assume in the Frostpunk universe that the sun might actually be dying or something is decreasing it artificially.

[@liszarezo3658]

@@Illier1 + few big Volcanic eruption.

[@AVAtistar]

The problem was that the game designer wanted the temperature to drop by 10C° steps. It would be a far better choice for the temperature to drop by 5C° so the lowest temperature would be -75. Absolutely unlivable but not breaking physics.

[@JoshSweetvale]

@@Illier1 _Neptune_ isn't this cold.

[@generalgrievous2202]

​@@AVAtistarI guess they were also determined to have dry ice fall from the sky during the final act, which seems to be the only freezing point the game actually acknowledges apart from water

[@Ragazar]

Could've just said "as balls" and saved us all a minute.

[@robertnett9793]

People from Lapland: "Bit chilly out here." while licking their frozen homemade vodka. The children might... might have closed the top shirt button.

[@absoluteagony]

When is it time to get a hoodie or just a scarf?

[@gideon903]

At -150 C, the snow that falls is partially dry ice as the CO2 in the atmosphere freezes.

[@nimifisch.6134]

Im pretty sure every person has a small personal heating device on them, which is how they survive the cold most of the time

[@vylbird8014]

The Lamp. Nothing in the games explains exactly how it works, but it produces light and heat. Fans suggest it might be burning coal oil. It serves as a personal source of light and a little heat.

[@wyatt8315]

I’m glad you added Fahrenheit for us American folks

[@Barren_soul]

And I thought i was stressed playing this. Imagine experiencing it

[@leevc2037]

So...Frostpunk is "The Day After Tomorrow" with extra steps

[@janitordel6296]

It's a sad story about the average British citizen

[@KittMonsta]

Nah the temperature difference would make a good insulation layer and you could go outside for about 20 seconds than the layer collapse and you start to freeze rapidly in another 20 seconds

[@CUBETechie]

What I never understand in this scenario why they don't build one building around the generator it would be very efficient and energy saving

[@monkeymonk666]

Literally just a straight story contrivance. Genuinely the only possible reason as yes, even just putting a log roof over the walkways between buildings would've done wonders for heat retention. Frankly speaking once they're settled in almost none of the citizens should ever see the sky again except through multiple layers of insulated glass. The very fact that you can see the glow of the fire through the exhaust port at the top of the big generator is a ridiculous waste of heat energy. But if you can get past that particular contrivance it really is an interesting story and pretty dang good game...

[@S.Stalev]

Not cold enough to stop that madlad that returned with his daughter

[@Enrique2DosSantos]

Is fiction and is a game, -150 would make materials colapse like glass, still is so cool and SO intense, the first time you reach the storm and quite literally 100s of people are dying, running out of coal, colapsed infirmaries, this game has a SUPERB final act that has no business being so good in a "city builder" they are suppossed to be relaxing

[@nikonnextrax9614]

Idk man I prepared well so peopple only realy started dying on last day cause I’ve had to turn off overdrive and not many died if I’m honest

[@71tofu]

Remember, the generator is there. A massive iron beast made by her majesty to save humanity from the hell that had come to it. This great machine, a miracle given form out of the desperation of mankind, ever hungry, ever watchful, ever billowing, belching, spitting, screaming, demanding that it be acknowledged not just by mankind, but the heavens above, hell below, and all the forces of nature. Reminding all that human kind will not simply fall with a whimper. That we will not simply go into that cold to be forgotten. That against all odds, we will take up arms, and charge forward screaming alongside the beasts we have made to save us. For within us is the power to do everything. Even brave the gates of the worst hells to bring back that which is most precious to us. To thrive even when everything wishes to destroy us. After all, London did not fall, it simply decided to move.

[@nikonnextrax9614]

@@71tofu ok

[@turtwig6779]

My parents describing how cold it was when they went to school:

[@empireofitalypsstimfromano5025]

Average Day In Hell, Norway:

[@keepinmindthat]

need to know more, should make full video of this as the lore from that game is haunting. Great job!

[@LoreTours]

Got ya covered chief. The linked video on this short should be a full Frostpunk lore video :)

[@breni1518]

I loved frostpunk. My first time ever when I made it through the storm, I almost toughed it out. Hospitals overcrowded, every production facility down. Just me, waiting, hoping it will pass. And it did, slowly, and in the last moments before the sun was visible again, a single man died. The only casualty of it, but one to be remembered. As the skies cleared, the man who worked in the coal mines from beginning to the end, got to see them, and know his family qas safe before finally giving in. Great game.❤

[@animereverie4380]

Try jumping into a stream that’s fed by snowmelt from the mountain. That water is cold enough to shock your core and may even stop your heart. That water is still around 1 to 2 degrees Celsius.

[@nitrokid]

Cold. So cold. So much so that it became a genre.

[@Waddlington]

what?

[@Killerwale-hk4wy]

Well, it's called frostpunk, so I think it's pretty cold.

[@trutwhut6550]

lucky i had automated my entire city by that point 😅

[@inertjohnjunk]

Yeah that's great and all, right up to the point that all your automatons freeze solid... I had to daily sacrifice people to the coal-mine-gods just to keep the generator running, because the automaton that had been mining coal was frozen stuck to the mine.

[@trutwhut6550]

@@inertjohnjunk my guys never got frozen, I learned when to overclock my generator and redesigned my city to fully heat all work places for when they do cease optimal function.

[@inertjohnjunk]

@@trutwhut6550 I'd like you to bear in mind that I have played the game exactly one time, completely blind. I did not think the automatons could freeze until the one working the mine got stuck. I did not have the resources to then go ahead and build a new boiler in that area, since I had nothing else in the vicinity and I needed boilers elsewhere. I had to turn off all my boilers in the end, since coal was running dangerously low. You're phrasing makes it sound like you're trying to make this a competition... My dude, Frostpunk is an Experience.

[@trutwhut6550]

@@inertjohnjunk why is my manner of writing competitive? Because I'm happy to share my most exciting experience with the game after learning and focusing on the automatons from the beginning of that city. I never found them important before I dedicated a city to them! ^-^

[@inertjohnjunk]

@@trutwhut6550 The way you said your guys "never got frozen" (implied: unlike mine) you "learned how to overclock" (Seemingly implied: unlike me) and you "redesigned your whole city to heat everything" (also seemingly implied: my city is better than yours, get gud scrub) BUT!! I am glad that was not your intention. It just sounded like it. I am happy to be wrong about that. Some people have that problem, where the way they are used to phrasing things just comes off as confrontational or... Inadvertently condescending I guess? Anyway, I didn't want to just let that slide, both just in case you were actually doing that on purpose(which you say you weren't, and I believe you) and in the case that you weren't doing it on purpose and you were simply unaware of it. I know I sometimes phrase things in unfortunate ways, which may spark conflict when I had no such intentions. I personally couldn't play Frostpunk more than once. The main game-mode that is. It was too emotionally impactful, it feels like I would ruin my memories of that first playthrough if I attempted another, so I've only ever played the other game-modes more than once. And strictly only after finishing the main game.

[@UKMonkey]

Temperature and heat are two different things. It can be -100C, but at that temperature, there will be no water in the air. With only particles that have a low heat capacity and very few of them actually hitting you (it's a gas, not a liquid or solid) then actually, you wouldn't feel the temperature anywhere near as much as you think. Your feet and mouth/throat would feel it more than any other part of your body; as they're either touching more air than the rest of your body (as you breath) or in proximity with the ground. So to limit the damage done to your feet, thick shoes and socks would be essential. Ask any skier. As for your throat - that's much harder to work out. But we know people are able to breath in the artic so I suspect it would still be fine at -150C. Having been in -30degrees in a t-shirt, the part that DID get cold was my beard as it caught all the exhaled water; which then froze on me. Of course, all this changes the moment it starts snowing (or hail) - because now you DO have the super cold solid hitting you and absorbing your heat efficiently.... but if the whole world is cold, then that's not going to be possible - because there's no mechanism for the water to evaporate.

[@verySharkey]

The difference between air in the arctic and -150°C is about the same as the difference between a hot summer day and boiling water. -150°C would absolutely not be fine.

[@UKMonkey]

​@@verySharkey Yes, but no. You don't understand the difference between temperature and heat. Just think of hot jam in a cake - the jam can be so hot that it burns, but the cake doesn't burn. They're both the same temperature..... but the jam takes so much energy to change 1 degree when that energy is applied to you, it's agonising. On top of that - whenever there's a state change (eg solid -> liquid) there's ANOTHER energy hump that needs to be overcome - so as long as the air is still a gas (it is at -150C), then it's even less like your example. So - yes, the temperature difference is significant, but the energy to change between the temperatures is low - thus wouldn't hurt.

[@iizvullok]

@@UKMonkey Basically it boils down to one thing: The body temperature (or temperature of parts of the body such as fingertips or skin) matters. Or does not matter how hot or cold things are that you touch. The only reason why frostbites and burns happen is because of energy transfer. And how much energy is transfered of course depends on the temperature, but also on heat conductivity, heat capacity and changes of the state. Sitting in a 80°C sauna on some towel is fine (for a while at least). Sitting in 80°C water is everything but fine. Another quite well known example of the things I mentioned before is hydration in cold climate. It is strongly advised to not eat snow, but to melt it before. Because 0°C snow has less energy than 0°C liquid water. So melting snow is an endothermic process. Coming back to whether -150°C air would cause instant problems or not: Again, it depends. Temperatures in that range are actually used in medicine to treat rheumatism. If the air (or in some cases pure nitrogen) is dry and the movement is rather limited, yes, its fine for a couple of minutes even. I have seen some guy in TV who was in a -110°C room for 11 minutes with barely any clothes on. He was completely fine. However in frostpunk it is of course a storm. So not only will there be huge windchill, but it is not guaranteed that the air is even dry (in fact it would definitely carry a bunch of snow). So more than likely going outside during the frostpunk storm would not exactly be healthy and lead to frostbites on exposed skin quite quickly. I found a table from the national weather service showing how long it takes to get frostbites given some wind speed and temperature. It goes only to 60 mph (96.5kph), so I will be using that for the frostpunk storm. down to 15°F (-9.5°C): No description given, maybe indefinite. down to 5°F (-15°C): 30 minutes down to -5°F (-20.5°C): 10 minutes -10°F (-23.5°C):

[@neonboss7175]

​@@iizvullok a fascinating explanation. Gives a realistic idea of how bad yet tolerable it would be. The guy you saw on tv was probably Wim Hoff, an expert about controlling your own body heat through respiration exercises.

[@iizvullok]

@@neonboss7175 He was not Wim Hof. I think Wim could beat that time with ease. Would be a funny easter egg to include him in the game. Also as a little fun fact: It is also possible to do the ice bucket challenge with liquid nitrogen because of the Leidenfrost effect (it evaporates before the actual liquid touches the skin and forms a protective layer). NurdRage did it and the video is still online.

[@Scorched-E04th]

Man's barely slouched, dude must've froze damn near instantly

[@the98themperoroftheholybri33]

Being flash frozen is arguably a better death than being dragged into and crushed by machinery

[@LoreTours]

Those sound like the words of a traitor!

[@paul-martintandetzki731]

Since released im still going back from time to time to play this legendary game

[@VulcanGray]

It's also worth mentioning how thermally dense the medium is. Space is cold, but there's so little matter, you'd barely feel it.

[@Mxkuh]

Fun fact: Both the hottest and coldest temperature measured in the entire universe, happened on earth

[@Z3Milesky]

Frostpunk's storm so cold, even the AI narrator instantly stopped functioning 😬🥶

[@LoreTours]

I'm AI? News to me

[@MintRobin]

The difference being that air transfers heat slower than liquid (in most scenarios) so even though the temps are the same, you'd retain warmth for a bit longer.

[@thestudentofficial5483]

During the Great Storm, the screen begins to crack and you can see "rain" that's actually condensation of gases

[@BadassName17]

So basically, you’re dead if you set one foot outside the city.

[@CorgiEnjoyer]

I’ve worked with -80C freezers for holding bacterial and DNA/ Plasmid stocks and I can tell you that you can get freezer burn FAST if you don’t use gloves. We aren’t supposed to hold the doors open for long because the moisture in the air almost instantaneously condenses and ices inside the freezer, which can disrupt the seals or other mechanisms. Not to mention the cellular damage of warming up and freezing down to that temperature from the crystals that form.

[@Nilon241]

52:51 unrelated, but holy shit that is a FANTASTIC quote from eggman.

[@MagiconIce]

Afaik the explanation, how they survive at all in FP1, is that it is warmer in the crater due to the heat from the generator being somewhat trapped in it and that the temperature we see in the HUD is measured above the crater. Their lamps are also apparently personal heating and lighting sources, at least weak ones regarding the heating. That would explain how people survive at -20°C in freaking tents. I doubt people would survive in those flimsy tents IRL at -20 °C, they'd probably freeze to death, if they don't wear several layers of clothing.

[@strangerontheinternet7358]

"How cold is it in Frostpunk" fucking *very*

[@bobbytables4305]

Fun fact O2 condenses when exposed to the tempetures of Liquid Nitrogen... So if the temp were to have been that low, you most likely would suficate before you froze.

[@OnePlusOneEqualsOnePlusOne]

It is so cold, it is summer time for the Siberians, Eskimos, and Antarcticans.

[@mr.lockwood1424]

It's actually very hot in Siberia in summer. +30 C and sometimes even +40 (though rarely). But in winter it's -40 - 50. Nowhere near the Great Storm temperatures thank god.

[@J-Rush]

And there’s still gonna be that one guy out for a walk in shorts and a t shirt telling everyone it’s not that cold

[@eea141]

"Nearer to the temperature of liquid nitrogen" Sir it is nearing ABSOLITE ZERO.

[@kokutai3331]

I imagine you’d freeze to death in a similar way to space just you could still breathe for a few seconds before you go into shock

[@jm_r245]

By far the most addictive game I've ever played

[@juviowater]

Always remember: The city must survive

[@cap10zomb]

The movie Snow Piercer is awesome. And it's adapted from a 1980s french graphic novel.

[@IITheshadowII]

A fun fact: The coldest possible temperature is called "absolute zero," which is -273.15°C or 0 Kelvin. At this point, all atomic motion theoretically stops, meaning atoms are as still as they can possibly be. Scientists have come close to this temperature in labs, but it’s impossible to reach it completely!

[@SiriusMined]

I love the game. That's my only gripe that the temperature ranges they use are ridiculous

[@terrancehood5292]

This is Snowpiercer levels of cold holy shit.

[@cerveau24]

The fact that they keep the city open air is insane

[@Nevir202]

Vital functions ceased so rapidly, he couldn't even finish his sentence lol.

[@LoreTours]

😂😂😕🥶🥶

[@Qichiquiche]

New Englanders would still go out for their iced coffee in that blizzard.

[@KnightandDay33]

Pretty bloody cold

[@Professional_FunHaver]

I'm writing a story about a mini ice age. Legit didn't know this was a genre.

[@DoctorFail]

"damn...so your still coming to work right?"

[@guilhermehank4938]

It adds to the cosmic horror of Frostpunk because whatever this eternal winter is, clearly is far from a natural event and its even hard to imagine victorian era humanity being able to create something that can pull this off. So horrifying, there is no answer. It just...did.

[@Noperare]

Frostpunk asks "what is the freezing point of human rights?"

[@joaquinglassmann62el.91]

My citizens can NOT complain that their houses are TOO COLD when the temperature outside is INSTANT DEATH

[@myththegoatlover]

Nice for the Wardens and Collies to keep the eachother warm in the north by sending hot fireworks 🥰

[@violettiplady3113]

You see in the art work that their clothes seem to run on steam to provide warmth.

[@Thebaconmurderer]

It's a little incorrect. The temperatures are closer to liquid Oxygen still off by a good margin. You could theoretically have liquid Phosphorous though.

[@pyerack]

The Great Storm is basically the same type of event from The Day Earth Stood Still.

[@sikionhu1]

Then there is expeditions team , absolute giga chad

[@yasininn76]

For Americans: chilly -20°c is the temperature on a "hot day" in Antarctica.

[@setop123]

bing chilling 🍦 🇨🇳 🙂‍↔️ bone chilling 🥶☠️ 🙂‍↕️

[@Thegoldenaerobar2]

Canadian here, games a little too warm to be called "frost"punk

[@caspianchan2371]

Now Im curious how hot a giant furnace should be to resist such temperatures

[@rafusekevin]

I lived in Nunavut and in 2019 the temp dropped down to -76... Planes were grounded as the fuel was freezing. Being a fly in only community it did not go very well...