How Country Livin' makes you Richer.

Country living pushes you to be more financially independent, while urban living pushes you to be more dependent on companies, banks, land-owners and creature comforts.
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[@uncleted9362]

The best part about COVID is that permanent remote-work is extremely prevalent now. I went full-remote and moved out of the city. I make more and my expenses are less. On my way to retiring early with lots of land setting up my kids to be self-sufficient. This is the way.

[@MoshimoshiDesu]

Then you change jobs. What?

[@Pimp-Master]

“Land” is harder work than office rat work. Also, you gotta pay taxes yearly and where’s that money coming from?

[@uncleted9362]

@@CyberAndy_ emergency fund and stored food. No different than any city job.

[@uncleted9362]

@@Pimp-Master self-sufficient as possible not literally cut off from society bro.

[@uncleted9362]

@@CyberAndy_ oh yeah for sure. Financial security is step one no matter the situation.

[@desnicar]

Luke, you've disregarded one very important element at play here. All the office simps are paying for Sally's coffee and happy hour drinks.

[@lithe.susurrous661]

I asked a relative who had been living on her own for a few years if she had gotten good at cooking. She admitted that she goes on so many dates that most dinners where free.

[@desnicar]

@@thewooque Za dobre pičke - jesu.

[@Alejandro-vp1op]

Not only in the office...everywhere. I'm glad that in the Merican country is different.

[@jack_galt]

And she'll probably consider making an OF or sugaring. When she could have just been a good housewife.

[@VADemon]

@@GospodinStanoje this movement is worldwide. work on yourself, brother!

[@yorch802]

I don't think your video captures one of the most important benefit that Billy has over Sally: he doesn't have to deal with an overwhelming amount of bullshit every single workday.

[@overclucker]

You speak too poorly of bullshit! I have fond memories of ranch smells from the few times I visited people in the country as a child. Ah the smell of manure baked in 100 degree heat.

[@matroqueta6825]

There's bullshit Billy has to deal with too tho Sally has high speed internet. Billy has to deal with crap bandwidth and shit ping.

[@adamsmith1813]

@@matroqueta6825 That's mostly a problem if you're a gamer.

[@TK-en2hq]

"lifestyle inflation" is something similar to what you describe. As people make more money they tend to spend more money, and not always in proportion.

[@cpK054L]

That only be femboys and women. Men aren't as materialistic.

[@illiiilli24601]

@@cpK054L that's most people in the city, "femboys" and women

[@micahsnyder7299]

I’m having to correct against this. I started a new job in November and over the last 8 months I’ve rapidly advanced and gotten raises totaling nearly $10/hour. I’ve earned about $18k since January and have basically none of that money left because I’ve been spending more money the more I make. Granted, I had some emergencies in that time which I had to pay out of my savings for, but I should have been able to save more money in the first place.

[@dylancatlett6580]

It's the Jevons paradox applied to money.

[@nihancj]

Pov: homeless boomer gives you unsolicited financial advice in the woods.

[@deadflesh1000]

@norm simpson clueless

[@daniel590]

@norm simpson he just being absurd bro don’t worry about it.

[@skullduggery6862]

COUNTRY BOY POV: gerbils living in the cage running on a wheel XD

[@blu3_enjoy]

Hey hey wait did I ever tell you about juggling credit card

[@jefe9206]

Don't be on the computer *Makes living on computer* *Records video and uploads to computer*

[@biehdc]

as proof just look up "bald and bankrupt", take one of his soviet travel videos and see how the most rural countryside lives. all of them have decent gardens, a few animals, maybe even doing their own wine and all the fun stuff. those people probably wouldnt notice for weeks when societies have collapsed until hungry people pass by desperately searching for food.

[@toastybread_ch]

???????? they would hear about it on the news and internet

[@muenstercheese]

@@toastybread_ch what internet? bunch of rural places are off the grid, especially in other countries

[@zeldazackman]

@@toastybread_ch Can barely get a signal over in Jackson Kentucky despite it being 25+ years and untold billions spent since the passing of the 1996 telecommunications act, even though it's got it's own walmart where you could still get a rtx 3080 mid 2021. Took about a week or two for the news of the Malaysian flight 17 getting shot down to sorta start being talked about around town.

[@Merlinfoop]

But don’t watch too many of his vids, he’s apparently a predator and a sociopath. Look up bald and bankrupt dossier

[@fsdajkh4349]

I've watched some of his videos, it's a really cool lifestyle. I am lucky to have grandparents leaving in Kyrgyzstan (central Asia), they have a huge garden, animals, a workshop... My grandpa is the most self sufficient person I've met in my life (he's 56 so he's young). I have lived there 4 or 5 summers, really enjoyed it. Sadly since the pandemic I haven't been able to visit them again, maybe this summer. It would be great to live some years by myself then in a future, when I grow up.

[@remke5137]

something this makes me think about is how everything in modern life is about exploiting people. extracting money, resources, time, etc. feels like there's little value added jobs in America anymore. like it's all just consumerism. i really wish I could be an ancient blacksmith in a small village. being able to add tangible value to the place and impacting the world around you.

[@remke5137]

@SNES Nes yeah I agree. Only problem is even there it's happening. I live down south and unless you work on a farm or in construction your basically stuck with retail and fast food. There's basically nothing in town or around it for miles. I'm trained for mechanical and electrical systems, and nobody's hiring. They just want a do it all type guy who can weld, assemble, move shit etc. Even the places that do hire people with my qualifications that are around just fuck with you for the first year before actually giving you the job you're trained for. People wonder why no one wants to be in the trades anymore.

[@remke5137]

@SNES Nes it's a real shame. But I guess that's how all degrees end up. You maybe use 20% of what you learned

[@remke5137]

@SNES Nes Yeah mad agree. I've enoyed my time there. But if I had known that the jobs I was hoping to get wouldn't be available without moving hundreds of miles, I don't know if I would have bothered. You gone/going to college?

[@trejohnson7677]

Modern life? Point to where it wasn’t this way.

[@crzyruskie86]

If you learned blacksmithing, you'd be successful in the country. You could make horse shoes, tools, nails etc.

[@Alberto-ku2yu]

In the city you are a coonsomer in the country you are a builder.

[@remke5137]

Man I really needed this episode. life's been rough, and I've been realizing just how much of a rat race life is. you've helped me stay sane in an insane world. thank man

[@2PaweL]

+1

[@noimnotnice]

This phenomenon is also known as the middle class condition: you start earning more, hence you start spending more.

[@dustinharford8454]

Economists generally refer to this phenomenon as the marginal propensity to consume. That is, an additional dollar made is an additional dollar spent.

[@treyvonmartin7989]

You dont need to spend money. Buy some weights and sit in your room and lift all day.

[@treyvonmartin7989]

@Russia Forever I stand with The Ukraine and the Ghost of Kiev

[@quitting_the_internet]

LUKE SMITH. the number one resist temptation guy. same concept that works evreywhere!! its a simple concept but i guess many don't know how to apply it or see the great benifits in it. keep teaching and educating. how else can we fight evil

[@toastybread_ch]

your anonymous mask finna make me act up though 🥵

[@MrSh4des]

Lost my job in the city because I drove to ottowa to protest with the truckers. Moved back to the countryside. Thank God, I didn't realize how depressing the city was until I finally left.

[@muti7632]

@R2R Is a company responsible for hiring you?

[@farioko9254]

​@R2R You should learn the meanings of words before using them.

[@MrSh4des]

@R2R it is. It was just the bosses son who threw a temper tantrum over it. I dont like drama or court rooms and I was on good terms with most of the people there so I left peacefully. Now I'm making twice as much money and paying 1/4 of what I was paying for rent so it's all good.

[@MrSh4des]

@R2R thanks brother! Life has been incredible for me since i started following God. Now I understand why people call it "getting saved"

[@jimbarino2]

@@MrSh4des "Left a good job in the city, working for the man every night and day. And I never lost one minute of sleeping Worrying 'bout the way that things might have been"

[@balalaika4062]

DUDE i just LOVE the hustle and bustle of the big city, it's so DYNAMIC and makes me feel like i'm in one of my favourite TV SHOWS. you should totally come on down to my studio apartment, it's got EXPOSED RED BRICK walls and everything, we can crack open a nice hoppy ipa or three and get crazy watching some cartoons on adult swim! and dude, dude, DUDE, we have GOTTA go down to the barcade- listen here, right, it's a BAR where us ADULTS who do ADULTING can go DRINK. BUTM! it's also an ARCADE like when we were kids, so we can play awesome VIDEO GAMES, without dumb kids bothering us. speaking of which megan and i have finally decided to tie the knot- literally -we're both getting snipped tomorrow at the hospital, that way we can save money to spent more on ourselves and our FURBABIES. i'm fuckin JACKED man, i'm gonna SLAM this craft beer and pop open another onell!

[@EWOKakaDOOM]

This slightly angered me

[@eitantal726]

-Bugman

[@user-li8wj3lt2l]

In reality most of people unwillingly move to big cities in order to have any job opportunities and be able to earn any money, then in their 30s they move to suburbs or smaller towns. In such places you either will end up unemployed, working for minimum wage in local sawmill/warehouse or shop, unless you are a doctor or have father owning a company. What makes me sad, this dynamic could be erased by popularization of remote jobs, people could save a lot money on living in some cheaper and calmer place over big city and overpriced 20m^2 flat, but corporate drones often can't stand having to work in their own instead of overcrowded openspace office so they opt for MOVING BACK INTO OFFICES AND PUTTING THINGS BACK TO NORMAL. This type of person is even more cancerous one than the copypaste.

[@eitantal726]

@@user-li8wj3lt2l "No jobs in the country" is a wagecuck's mentality. Luke Smith said that the fundamental problem with wagecucks is that they rely on businesses to give them a wage, instead of figuring out something to do on their own. "Choose freedom every time"

[@user-li8wj3lt2l]

​@@eitantal726 Maybe it is, but it's a sad reality. Being self-employed is a way, but you still are going to have limited customer base in province (also people in province tend to be more familiar with maintenance and stuff, so electrican/plumber might not be called as often as in city). Wagecuck jobs offer you a stable timetable, ensure you will get paid in time and provide you with things to do and for majority of people doing their shit for 8 hours and getting money on 1st is way simpler than chasing your customers to pay you for things and driving around the nearby towns doing things for 12 hours a day. Another thing is getting qualifications that would allow you to function is such place, as becoming a doctor, pharmacist, lawyer etc. which gives you both a good financial position and influence in local community, but it's something that requires long-range planning, money to back up and years of effort.

[@Chaotist]

Exactly and when Billy develops some higher technologies like metallurgy, 3d printing etc (besides his garden) then he doesn't need to go to the city at all. He would be self sufficient 100%. And that's where we should be heading if we want to ever be free from the hamster wheel.

[@fallenaspie]

based welder bro

[@MrBlumpkin42]

Neo-AnPrim... This is very interesting, and I I'm eager to hear more.

[@LNTutorialsNL]

You can never be 100% self sufficient. Think about gasoline, electric parts, health care, etc. - although you should strive for it nevertheless

[@gtgunar]

@@LNTutorialsNL literally the only shit you can't make at home is nuclear fission and videocards. Diesel can be made from sunflowerseedoil, even from used one. Healthcare... like it's a thing in 2022.lol electric part... that's true, it's a pain in the ass, to even make a 0.1 mm transistor. Chemicals... most things can be made at home, like ashcement, magnets and such. Only the rawest materilas has to be bought and after that it's kind of fine.

[@_DT_]

Billy still need to buy and protect the raw materials

[@Omikronik]

European city housing: matchbox European country housing: shoebox Still cant win

[@jalepezo]

just start ur own county lmao

[@sumkindacheeto]

There's a lot of old abandoned housing scattered around the countryside (at least where I live). If people had the resources to renovate, it wouldn't be so bad.

[@freesoftwareextremist8119]

Because american "country" is literally middle of nowhere tier. Those places exist in Europe too. The European "country" you are thinking of is probably still

[@freesoftwareextremist8119]

For reference I just searched for properties in East Frisia, Germany and there is a 120m² house on sale for 150k€ that comes with over 8000m² of land. In some even more remote places in eastern Germany you will be able to get even cheaper deals.

[@karenwang313]

But Europe good, America bad!!

[@justinianslegacy4955]

$1000 dollars for an apartment in a city where you can get a starting salary of $100K is a WILD underestimate. I grew up in NJ just outside NYC, and an hour commute by train away was still upwards of $1,300, 1.5 hr commute away was maybe getting into the $1,000 range, and that's assuming you didn't hit one of those random super-rich towns or a historic town, or a town near a college of any repute which immediately spiked the average cost back to upwards of $1,500. My cousin used to live in LA, same deal just way worse on account of inflation and commute times to escape it. My brother used to live in DC, same deal unless you didn't mind living in an area where you were about as likely to get shot as in Syria or Detroit. I'm around Seattle, not as bad as NYC as far as prices/commute times, but there is 0 safety here with the homeless problem and all the druggies from drug welfare. I think your estimate is even more radically in favor of Billy than you think.

[@larry_the]

Listen to it again. He says "maybe you can get a POD in someone's bedroom for $1000".

[@Halston.]

Pat210 and Larry need to learn how to read

[@1Snouser]

After nyc taxes that 100k becomes 70k, then at 2k/month apt a little over a third of ones income just going to rent let alone bills and food

[@ArniesTech]

As a German I pity those living in Cologne, Munich, Berlin, Hamburg etc. Ridiculous amounts of money thrown away for what? Traffic jam, 2hr one way to work, noise and trash everywhere. Congrats 💪

[@amando96]

Cities are gross. Lived in Düsseldorf for a few years and it was awful. So many people, concrete everywhere.

[@ArniesTech]

@@amando96 Amen 🙏🙄

[@Eltipoquevisteayer]

Then why so many people talk so many wonders about german cities and partying

[@_d0ser]

The chains of habit are too light to be felt until they're too heavy to be broken.

[@floorfungus4209]

thank you luke. you're a big inspiration.

[@quadekirby4152]

Most of these temptations apply to people living in rural areas too, at least with coffee shops and restaurants. Unless you live somewhere where there's no service industry at all those temptations will still exist. That being said I have noticed after having lived in the city for a year there are definitely added costs. Tolls, metro costs, car parking, rent, TAXES, etc but i'm still making my own lunches and only go out to eat once a week. All that being said I still agree with the overall message especially about the space to live and the ability to own land I agree with.

[@quadekirby4152]

@@tissuepaper9962 fair point I was comparing it to my hometown of ~40,000 so classic American town of stroads and suburban sprawl. Most people pass by a starbucks or fast-food on there way to work so i don't see it any worse than living in a city

[@illiiilli24601]

@norm simpson problem is, cars are essential in most NA cities. It's better in Europe, Asia, and New England though

[@amando96]

Different temptations: "Boy, Clyde's truck has a 8'' lift and mine only has 6'', gosh darn it"

[@urbanumbra6170]

But I feel like business is more often local in rural communities and supporting your neighbor is a lot better than supporting some random dude. Itd be nice to be able to grow enough food in a local community to provide to restaurants and have a community cut off from big evil farms

[@1111Tactical]

Nah, the country equivalent is shit like barbecue supplies, ammo, off-road vehicles and their upgrades

[@owencarey7214]

I'm hoping to move to the country soon. I fell for the small town meme

[@VideoStartsAt1]

Just get a farm near a small town fellow Owen

[@Kendenka]

small town vibes are cute

[@owencarey7214]

@@Kendenka Poverty, Drugs and welfare isn't comfy

[@Kendenka]

@@owencarey7214 shame.

[@rightwingsafetysquad9872]

Unfortunately almost all of the small town leaders who made them nice places in the 60s have moved to the suburbs.

[@fawazsullia5620]

This is so true. My expenses when I'm back home in the country is extremely low. Now thst I'm in a city, it's way higher

[@motarted1735]

Another scenario: The next recession hits and Sally's job is eliminated due to drastic cost savings and she is kicked out of her property, acquires crippling debt, trashes her credit, and gets set back 5 years financially. Billy's job is secure because he most likely does something that produces profit for said company. I would be pretty nervous if I had a "work from home" job right now. You're a lot easier to eliminate when there's no face to the name and your career could be completely abolished with the ever growing rate of automation. A few mouse and keyboard strokes and you're gone.

[@frankprit3320]

I’ve been through 4-5 recessions and that's exactly what happened to me. I learned to be self-sufficient and self-reliant, the Government and Big Corporation are out to F-ck the working class. So you have to learn how to work around there BS. They are trying to create a recession right now with the excuse of helping Americans. How does putting people out of a job, help them?

[@autisticcrusader1915]

Luke, your videos have been very helpful. My wife and I are staying in an apartment complex for the time being, but it’s relatively out in the country and separated from civilization, and I can confirm that my spending habits have changed. I’m using the time here to pay off my student loans in bulk rather than staying on the hamster wheel and paying it off slowly, as I only have rent and groceries, plus my car is paid off and in good shape for being a 2009 Subaru Forester having 197k miles. Thanks man.

[@Doctor_Subtilis]

I live basically as a peasant (a rural person who works the land and doesn't aspire to capitalist accumulation, as in la via campesina the world's largest social movement) on my parents land, i only work enough paid labor to make a couple hundred a week. My biggest expenses are going to the gas station to buy nicotine which inevitably leads me to buy energy drinks and other shit too and books on Amazon. I've been hand removing invasive species and woody overgrowth and collecting rare seeds from native grassland remnants, also been growing crops to save seeds. In a couple years my horticultural and ecological knowledge and mastery of our autochthonous natural resources will allow me to make alot of money on other people's land with no overhead costs, but my real goal is to be able to do basic research independently. Also i now have a six pack and a really hot bod literally from touching grass. But I'm super lonely and i need a team so I will be taking a couple art classes in college next year(i think visual arts has the most new things for me to learn) , not looking for a degree, I will also use that time to network with the University faculty I already know from the native plant community and my other scholarly interests.

[@ciarfah]

Renaissance man

[@BloodAsp]

"Whenever you have money, you should spend money is such a way to reduce your need for more money." I need some advise on what these purchases might be. I like to use things that always have uses, and can be used.

[@AngryVikingwGuitar]

Do your research before buying literally anything now. Planned obsolescence and low-quality made in China stuff is completely unchecked right now and is draining everyone's pockets. (Quality) Tools are always a good purchase. Analyze your expenses and try to find ways to kill em off. Credit card debt? Start chipping away at it ASAP. Blowing a ton of money every month on all the stupid streaming services? Start buying physical media, set up a media server or something.

[@SonOfMeme]

That depends on your scale: It starts with something as small as buying a sewing kit, through investing in a large freezer, all the way up to stuff like big ol' solar energy patches, livestock, sky's the limit. Opportunities to apply the principle are literally everywhere, assess everything you do. Think for yourself, schmuck!

[@TudorMakes]

This is lifestyle inflation and yes, it’s very prevalent in big cities.

[@cirtey29]

I made my money in Paris then went to live in country side in africa. I was able to build fortune in big city, lived for 5 years in small shared flat, bought few extra stuff. You are not forced to spend à lot in big cities, most of my free time was playing soccer for free. The real perks of country living: have farmland and live self sustainably, much less pollution, less stress, staying away from liberals, enjoying the beauty of nature.

[@kidkieran77]

Yes it's a cultural problem more than anything else. Luke summed it up at the end. It's people thinking they are richer than they actually are.

[@channingcheese2]

yeah, consumerism and being a bugman sucks, but what if I don't want to live in the country? I already live in the country, in my parent's house (I'm 19). There's nothing here. There's no social venues, there's nothing happening for people my age or with my niche interests, there's basically nobody I can relate to or hope to see with any regularity. Living in the country precludes me from having any sort of social life outside of the internet. The problem with "freeing" yourself with a work-from-home, long-distance job is that all of your friendships are long distance too. I'm not a misanthrope or a reclusive hermit, I want to be somewhere where I can interact with people in my own age group on a daily basis, so where the fuck can I do that except in the city, at college or a job?

[@lizardjoel]

This definately solidified my choice to move out to Appalachia

[@BehradJi]

I love your ideas, keep doing these kind of videos about how to live.

[@RAFAELFALA]

Props to this guy making an unedited 15m video, feels more like a bro talking to me

[@devonallie]

The biggest change I notice when I head out to the country is the quite. It's an amazing thing that I don't get even with noise cancelling headphones in the city.

[@thelovertunisia]

Great channel. Absolutely agree with you. Greetings from Tunisia. Here we have the same situation between city and country. I live in a small town and we live a simpler life than those in the city but spend much less.

[@CrossedChaos]

This video kinda hit home for me. Even just this last week I asked my coworker if he was going to cook / get some lunch. He said his office does a group order at a different restaurant everyday. So he just orders food from that because its more convenient (even though it costs more).

[@ukaszkowalczyk5782]

fun fact in my country there was time before pandemic where i could eat lunch for a something around 3$ there was no possibility to prepare it in such cost at home. so for less money i had different meal each day. And home made launch was near 4 - 4,5 $ if you made it for at least 2 days. in my city its not possible to even reach near such price, in most of case delivery price is higher than cost of meal in city where i work

[@OblateSpheroid]

Thank you for your work, Mr. Smith.

[@Mis73rRand0m]

I live in Central AZ; pretty good balance of rural and city life. Strapped to a mortgage but got in before the housing prices went crazy. I think the (financial) waste cycle is evident no matter where you live... personal image and getting caught up in the convenience of modern living can get you.

[@adamantine4994]

"not out of your grasp but out of your temptation" 🙌

[@MaxHarrison]

In January, I moved from the city to the country. Sometimes, I really dont feel like cooking, but then I remember I'd have to travel a long distance to get fast food, so I end up cooking. In the city, I could just walk around the block and spend $10+ dollars on a meal, which I would do quite frequently.

[@gustavobau7669]

I live in a small town in Brazil, the best life.

[@NaffiAxx]

Live below your means is the best way to save money, and get out of all debt is the beat way to live.

[@roylink]

I have some in-laws who have a farm that is 15 min away from a small town. They way I think of it is that, even going grocery shopping you have to plan the day around. Especially if Walmart is the the biggest grocery thing around. Just driving a hour just to go to a nice restaurant makes you go to them less.

[@indolent1529]

I grew up in the country on a farm. We had horses, guineas, chickens etc. Neighbors had livestock too. I found myself wanting to move to more urban areas as a kid and teenager, and I did when I moved out for University. There is a degree of freedom and trend of thought patterns that just generally made me go nutty living in the city. I truly miss the lifestyle I had as a kid, however I don't know how to deal with the crux of a getting good career, with a home environment that can support it. (IT / Software Engineer). Where I'm from and where I could realistically move to after I finish Uni next year, it severely limits my financial ability unless I secure a remote position in that time frame. I miss it, but it will have to wait :(

[@sfadhjkl4112]

Sure it's easy to spend more but you can also be frugal. For example I've been working at a tech company in Seattle for a year, making 120k base salary out of school. My rent is $900 for half of a 2-bedroom apartment in the city (in an older building), I eat out 2-3 times per week (and work from home mostly), have a 15-year-old car that I drive only ~30 miles per week because I have everything in walking distance (groceries, restaurants, parks, etc). Saving up to buy a small house or condo in the next year or so. But I do know people in my shoes spending 3k on rent, $60k on a car, etc.

[@Happycat188]

So you’re sharing the apartment, right? What would you do if you wanted to live on your own?

[@sfadhjkl4112]

@@Happycat188My rent would increase by 50% but like I said I'll probably buy a place instead within the next year instead.

[@charlubermensch2395]

Virgin American: if I live in the country, I can buy a house without debt Chad Russian: I can buy a house with a salary at Vorkuta

[@Maze-]

🤨

[@lucywucyyy]

right now im a country bum living in a city and i cant tell you how out of place i feel, im driving my beat up old citroen surrounded by rangerovers

[@LawrenceHe]

I'm pretty autistic and disciplined, but when you live in the city and don't want to spend any money, there's almost nothing to do.

[@smishdws]

Staying sane in the city is definitely a lot more intentional when all the temptations are around you. I'm still gonna take the risk and attempt a relatively minimalist lifestyle here (when I move out). I have very aggressive savings and investing habits that I don't see ending anytime soon.

[@vladislavkaras491]

Thanks for info!

[@protoketer4554]

Words of wisdom. Thanks for sharing man

[@bennbanes6359]

I love being exposed to nature, letting the weather determine my day, enjoying walks with no one around. Your inspirating me to Vlog. As a 41yr old father who moved to another country as soon as our boy was born. Not even knowing where we would truly end up. We just one we needed wilderness and open spaces. Fast forward 12 years, and my videos are proof of the life we have achieved

[@u9vata]

I actually realized this the most when I realized that the room-mate who were all better coder than me because he is actually super awsome and worked in big-tech, had red rating on topcoder constantly and all had more hardship actually OWNING a properly than me who carpooled into city to work in a mid-range Hungarian company in an allegedly less developed country and owned house earlier. He is also actually super-anti-temptation guy from whom I can learn a lot and still it was at least comparable. The things with the villages and countryside is that you pay for things that count. Also I feel very much for you telling that you pay for things that make you need less money. That is just how real freedom comes: from sovereignity and not needing a lot of resources and still having security. Freedom is not to have a lot, but to have a state in your life where you are nott bankrupt even if you lose your job and have to work in some supermarket lol. What scares me is not that people are so far away from that in cities, but that they usually don't even see that as a possible issue.

[@iamtrash288]

Real shit. It does become a habit to spend money in the city

[@Vincent_Preston]

I'm not much of a consumer, but I do have a really bad habit of drinking alcohol on the weekends 😅. But aside from that I rarely spend money on non essentials

[@paulhagen1002]

Moved to an exurban town outside of a midsized midwest city, wealthy area but theres very few places to spend money outside of a handful of restaurants.

[@Happycat188]

I agree completely. It's one of the main reasons I didn't jump into a new job during "The Great Resignation" with white collar jobs booming. My line of work is pretty expensive to work in, and a lot of jobs are in major cities. Working from home in a low COL area is great, I keep at least 60% of my paycheck or more. I just know if I get a big pay bump in a big city job, I'll probably have less coming into my savings. Kind of a hard choice for me, hoping there's more remote jobs in my field in the near future.

[@origin2211]

Napoleon didn't compare himself to his peers, he only judged his progress compared to his past self

[@eitantal726]

That's one of Jordan Peterson's rules

[@MobileAudioPro]

Yeah country living is cheper I lived in golden Valley, Az and the biggest town we had was kingman and that town was the poster child for boaring and the only kind of work that didn't involve sales was fast food, local oil change shop, and mom and pop stores. There was no logistics area of town or business side where all the wealthy people worked. If you can't get the money to maybe open a shop and hope it's successful. What clsses they offer at the community college are basicly computer classes for people who finished high school before getting to touch a computer. with a college degree there is no job paying more than 60,000.00 unless you know people. I now live in southern California in the biggest warehousing mecca of the country and have been an automation tech. and that a field I wouldn't have even tought about learning hd a i stayed in that town. Theres a reson most people leave those towns once they are old enough and the ones who sty after high school get so scred of life outside the small town they know that they refuse to gamble and take risks.

[@excke]

Based

[@cariyaputta]

You're right, most people just larping that they have it all, whether it's flexing on social medias or irl.

[@jeanpierrepolnareff9919]

8:23 I'm so glad I live in a city and I don't have that kind of mentality. Not just about personal savings, but the need to realize yourself trough "my Iwatch is newer than yours" it's so sad and shallow I can;t even begin to understand it. I do reckon is spend maybe 100 euro or more on going out with my friends each month, but at least it's for a fun activity and not a souless object.

[@mclau1524]

dude i am so caught up in this wedding stuff with my fiance, literally 70k for a wedding, rings, honeymoon, alcohol, dinner, etc. you name it its crazy expensive for weddings when cities up prices and people compete with each other for the fanciest wedding

[@pantsonfire2216]

Lol Who’s making you pay for all that? Is your fiance going to leave you if you don’t get her a big weeding? Does it really matter so much that you have to live under this level of stress? Questions you should ask yourself before diving into a commitment like that

[@googleuser9624]

That's absurd man, make it smaller

[@poni-sz2pm]

Im spending less money in a city than I was spending in a village in parents house. Public transport barely exists there so you're forced to have car and there is only one shop that is expensive as hell.

[@a_maxed_out_handle_of_30_chars]

true, had first-hand experience

[@ixp8605]

Livin' out in the country doesn't make you financially richer, it also makes you mentally and spiritually richer

[@chargermopar]

Around here rural is more expensive than urban. North Florida does have some inexpensive places. To live in the country the more skills you have the better. 500 a month in my area barely covers property taxes.

[@sigurdss4]

Smalltown life is a good balance between the two

[@lc5651]

Keeping up with the joneses and death by a thousand cuts summarizes city life

[@abasicname8848]

So what youre saying is there's less temptations to be in your face if you're to live in the country. Easier to drop down to a simpler life style making it easier to do things like budgeting or saving. Those savings could go to bigger and better things for what you ultimately would want. Instead of temporary spendings, it's more longterm shit you're only looking for out of a passion. If instead of buying expensive clothes, if you were to be into making some yourself, that would be a passion you can invest in for yourself. It might not even make you extra money butt it can technically save a little to have a little bit of joy out of the diy aspect. Vehicles on the other hand are always going to be on the expensive side when you care about all the little details and joyous things though. But if you care about saving money, getting something like a hybrid vehicle whenever you have gas being really expensive, and one that's just really fuel efficient for a gas powered vehicle for when ghe gas is reasonable would help you to save money, that shit adds up. Compared to project cars to where unless you neglect it... is always going to bleed more money out of your wallet. And cars are very much just a nerdy thing, you aren't likely to find a way to make money off of your own cars. they are just an expensive flex to own, for sure. If those are your passions, unfortunately. When you consider things like training however, internet is fortunately free. and information for naturals is well circulated among the better content creators for that. It's less about spending money on expensive and unnecessary gym equipment for the most part. But if you were to want an expensive gym toy for whatever reason and maybe you actually get a lot out of it, it would always work to your favor to have always been investing in your own home gym. It would be nice though if you had the same amount of space as a real gym, like you would see in a vacant hanger or something like that. If eventually you were able to open up your own gym for yourself like that, that would atleast be worth more as a long term investment for what you could potentially do with that. Assuming it's either an investment you were able to close in on for a bastard good price or you're not just using it solely for personal reasons but also maybe for others to get use out of it. So maybe you could make some money on the side or as a genuine passion on that kind of a thing too. So there are things that can be good that you could find yourself doing in the city or really anywhere. However it's imperative that you have the vision and a fuck to give in the world, and any applicable passion to make anything of the sort, become the slightest bit more reachable. So I think it's moreso a culture that you're talking against, of people without any real aspirations, that are just living in the moment for temporary pleasures in life, not really focused on anything.sometiems the people with all these bad habits, probably the least deserving of a phat salary, because they aren't going to spend it wisely butt graciously and greedily. Because they've got all that to lose and nothing else matters to them. That money can't mean anything if you don't have something you would already be trying to take that kind of money out for in the first place, if you were to ever have that much. That's the kind of thing young people need to realize sooner. And the sooner they can keep bad habits in a backroom and to have it come out within a reasonable moderation the better.i honestly dont even know why you mentioned that somebody should ever have to give up diy. Idc ifhumans are a social creature, if you are doing good for yourself to make your own food, why the fuck would you ever stop. If making coffee yourself and you realize you like coffee. It might be a hobby expense butt atleast you can be sure to own it. And even if it is, coffee is coffee. You dont bleed out coffee that fast if you're intaking only reasonable amounts of caffeine on a routine. You can even buy the shit that starbucks uses in their shit off the internet and you would save up more, you dont ever have to talk to a person about what you want for coffee ever again. Isn't that just a better fucking investment.

[@funstuffonthenet5573]

If you can avoid toss temptations in the city you can do quite well. But still a ton of advantages in the country, I agree. Really depends on your situation what is right for you. But uf you can get a modest income in the country I think its great

[@howichangeyoutubehandle]

11:07 >he could build a little shed now we're talkin 😎

[@jimbobbillybob]

LOL, you're actually selling me on living in the city instead of country..."ooh, there's this place and that place and this to do and friends that want to hang out".

[@atypicalambience3487]

I entirely agree that the best way to make good decisions is to change your environment, but when I lived in rural Tennessee I had plenty of friends who could spend $50 a day on food and were willing to drive hours just to do so. I have lived in a city/suburb for most of my life and eat out maybe once every couple months.

[@atypicalambience3487]

This is by no means the norm but it is possible to overcome a good and bad environment.

[@javajav3004]

based

[@stepansmirnov5876]

Me watching it while drinking a cup of coffee from starbucks: _Maybe you're right but I'm not sure_

[@QEsposito510]

I’ve lived in the country and cities. What you’re describing is a very romanticized idea of rural life, and very specific circumstances while living in the city. In reality, you spend FAR more on maintenance and transportation and general upkeep living in the country. Sure, you might not be spending as much on rent and late night Chinese food, but if you’ve ever had to winterize a home, buy tires for different seasons, maintain and keep up acreage that includes lawn space and woodland, you’ll soon catch up there in cost of living. There’s a reason the poor rural stereotype exists.

[@eiboeck88]

i'm so glad i grew upnin the country i can't live in a city for me living in the country is way more comfortable than living in the city and best thing of all is the nice and fresh alpine air

[@spin3743]

Resist temptation is don't imitate the desires of others. But desire is metaphysical in the end, mimetic, as one is desiring deep inside to be the Other. Thus imitate the One who came and died and rised to make all things new. A not related podcast about René Girard Mimetic/scapegoat theory would be awesome.

[@NuryPPanaligan]

I really love working in a rural construction site. My expenses literally cuts by half compared to what I spend when I'm in the office.

[@dusilva3796]

Here in Brazil you can rent a big house (in a small city) for $170 to $230, In a big city that would pay for a small apartment, in the US that a maybe a cardboard box.

[@kazoolordhd6591]

i grew up about 30 mins drive away from the nearest supermarket. I do what I call man shopping, I research exactly what I want and compare to other models, go to the shop that sells it, buy it and go home. woman shopping is when you arent decided on what you want and you drive around and go buy lots of different shit just because its there.

[@samizdat113]

I'm heading to rural Maine. Maine is strategically insignificant and rural Maine is nearly devoid of N words.

[@tribacioustee2846]

My main problem with going to the country would be the fear that it'd harder to find a community, particularly a life partner

[@stephan24297]

It can be lonely in the city. Def easier to meet people of various interests and more potential partners for sure

[@ToknowTop]

Booom, Mind blowing

[@emnolein]

So true, king. 👑

[@kodee2]

The real thing most people pay no attention to is their burn rate. I remember reading an article from some NYU prof detailing how his own parents were retired and doing well back home, while a former student that became partner/vp at goldman/mckinsey is stuck in this "arms race" where their monthly burn rate is so high they have no hope of retiring despite earning 500k-1M+ per year. From trips to the hamptons, to their superficial wives that says "well why cant we take a heli out of the city on a friday" and then divorce them for someone else

[@Clowncentral101]

Scott Galloway!

[@Drivastum]

I love the idea of moving to the countryside and it's a dream of mine once I graduate but I have trouble putting my confidence in 1. Vetting what actually is a countryside and what is actually an expensive suburban town larping as the countryside. 2. What job could be out there for someone like me (I would basically only have a polisci degree and some internship experience). I'm pretty sure something addresses all of these things and I'm just overthinking but moving out of the hell scape that is the city and booking it to the country is my main goal for now immediately post-graduation.

[@illiiilli24601]

For 1. If most people there commute to the city more than 3 times a week (or if it's a college town) it's probably a suburb larping as the countryside

[@DarkSmugLoser]

I personally need a basic downtown and central shopping areas. But I agree you don't need city for that. There are tons of modern affordable places to live with 100k populations.

[@pdstor]

Your accent sounds like it has a touch of Irish in it. A question for you: where would you put a rough dividing line between country and city (e.g. 50,000 people and growing is city; "if people don't hang out at the Dairy Queen on Friday night, it's city" etc.), and is it still country if you live within a reasonable drive of a city? I've been in coffee shops in small towns with less than 5000 people when I taught in what could be defined as "middle of nowhere" in Iowa.

[@bbsara0146]

Certain jobs you have to live in a certain area though. For example biotech is all based in the boston metro area, and finance is all based in NY metro area. If you want a career in these areas you are forced to pay expensive rent. The way I think if it is what I put into savings / investments each month. Living in a city is a better option since I can put away more per month, then when I retire I can move to the country

[@henryc7548]

If you are using food delivery hugely increase your daily expenses for shear convenience, I had a neighbor who had 1-2 food deliveries every day

[@32xx]

thanks

[@colinlpeace]

This is exactly me vs my ex wife. She wastes her money on designer junk and new phones etc. It’s kind of sad. She’s so obsessed with perceived status. Instead of buying a reliable car she bought a used Audi with steering issues and had to beg her sister for money to buy it. 🙄

[@Eryn321]

I work online in the country. best thing ever.

[@davedoublee-indiegamedev8633]

"$500 on groceries and other expenses" Man that would be good wouldn't it

[@LNTutorialsNL]

For a single person household without going out to eat isn’t even unreasonable

[@rightwingsafetysquad9872]

I know. I easily spend $100 for groceries for myself per week. And that's still eating out twice.

[@theodorbutters141]

@@rightwingsafetysquad9872 You could get groceries and eating out once a week for $200/month. It would be a bit hard to get groceries for less then $150/month unless you're willing to only eat 5 ingredients

[@rightwingsafetysquad9872]

@@theodorbutters141 I'd certainly love to hear how, it's not like I'm eating Steak every night. And I rarely eat more than literal peanuts for breakfast and lunch.

[@theodorbutters141]

@@rightwingsafetysquad9872 TLDR : cook from basic ingredients, avoid adding too much meat, portion your food and cook 2 dishes 2-3 times a week and you'll be able to eat cheaply. * cook 1-2lb of rice once a week, add the cheapest frozen vegetable mix you can find. buy them when they're on sale and keep them in the freezer. * as for meat, try chicken liver or drumsticks, they have the cheapest price per pound. East steak/pork once every 2 weeks. * Have oatmeal with some nuts and sugar for breakfast. * break a couple of eggs to make an omelette for 50 cents. Add a mashed banana or some garlic and onion it in for more flavor. * buy minced meat when it's on sale, add seasoning, make it into small balls, cover them in flour and grill/fry them. * For some homemade 30-cent chinese noodles add some instant soup to a pan, fry it for 2 minutes, add 1/2 a cup of water and stir until it's absorbed all the water. * Buy a bread maker at a garage sale and make fresh bread for $1, half a bread per day would be $10 a month for flour, yeast, salt and sugar. add other stuff in it like walnuts, raisins and oats. * Learn to make cream soups out of tomatoes, potatoes, onions, broccoli, sweet potatoes, pumpkin, carrots in any combination you'd like. * Bake a couple of sweet potatoes and add some leftovers to make a $2 dinner. * Learn to make pancakes, top them with peanut butter and nuts. * Make casseroles with rice and potatoes, add half a pound of ground beef to them and as much onion, garlic and pepper for extra flavor. * Look up polenta. it's a meal made from corn meal mixed in boiling water. goes great with butter, cheese, roasted mushrooms and a boiled egg. a 5lb bag of corn meal for $3 makes 7 pots or about 28 servings. * For deserts you can make no-cook pies with cream cheese and peanut butter. I've yet to try this one but it's one of the easiest deserts you can make.

[@duojornalistico]

I agree with the broad point but I kind of feel like the "peer pressure" argument you are presenting for Sally can also be applied to Billy

[@buckledealer]

THANGS

[@memenazi7078]

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