How Custodes Perform Into Every Faction - Warhammer 40K 10th Edition

[@Rejnols]

Be sure to join me at 18:00 CET this Thursday (November 2nd) over on @Happykrumingwargaming007 for the livestream!

[@ajjohnson7947]

Great video! Appreciate the insight as a part time Custodes player. As a full time Black Templars player, Red is correct IMO. It went from a yellow from the BT perspective to greener-than-green with the Custodes nerfs simply because I can put 3-4 times as many bodies on the board that are almost as survivable and almost as lethal. Some enormous character buffs and fight-on-death access means that melee skews used to belong to Custodes and they now belong to Black Templars.

[@Kolomaq]

Rejnols, yet another fantastic video! Thank you so much, I really enjoyed your perspectives, and I cant wait to see the collab with you and Krumping!

[@Chnmmr]

your description of GKs is how they play against everyone. Avoid interacting with the melee and shooting phase as we can't influence it much.

[@piotrjeske4599]

Yeah. I am GK player and in some games l sometimes skip a shoting phase. GK are the non interaction army.

[@johnhildenbrand2642]

I feel like the running theme here is that any army that is fast and has enough chaff type screen units to stick baby in the corner is going to be a real problem. We seem to be reasonably well off against armies that are trying to do similar things to us, and the rest of the armies out there are a crap shoot based on what specific tricks/shenanigans are available to it.

[@jedrzejjezierski2533]

About the guard - in my bubble they often play a lot of leman russ demolishers surrounded by infantry. There is no comfortable way of getting past this obstacle, and destroying leman russ round 1 is simply impossible

[@cartledge_uk]

Agree, they also have board control to prevent deepstrike. Yes we will win any direct matchup close range. But we will be blown off objectives. I've lost every game against guard in 10th. One game I was wiped turn 2 by indirect!

[@theprussianmink]

Basilisks are also quite paintful with their -2 movement ability.

[@Rejnols]

Sounds like a potential terrain issue? I play almost exclusively on WTC tables.

[@alexrowson-brown6568]

I find CSM a good match for me, hiding then using caladius to remove forgefeinds then allarus into backline to clear them off works very well

[@WildAce001]

You forgot about Deathwatch, just like GW forgets about us

[@kevinchristensen534]

looking forward to seeing the co-lab.

[@jacobjohnson9482]

27:26 I played a lot of matchups with World Eaters, and I can certainly say, that the world eaters are quite weak. You have wardens that have 4+ fnp, you got guard with shields, tank! And in that sea of golden armor they just drowned. So in my opinion, that is quite strange army, lots of melee combat, but still weak shooting. Thanks for video!

[@badzilla1173]

Would there be any reason to bring 2 land raiders? Like a substitute if you cant find/get grav tanks?

[@Rejnols]

Land Raider is for sure not a substitute for Grav Tanks. It might looks similar on paper, but having lethal hits AND re-rolling wounds makes a lot of difference. Not saying its impossible to play with Land Raiders, but i wouldn't take them as a substitute

[@badzilla1173]

@@Rejnols figured I'd ask. What do you think of this 2k list? Trajan 160 Allarus Terminator captain with ceaseless hunter 170 Allarus Terminator captain with inspirational exemplar 150 A unit of prosecutors 50 2 units of 5 allarus Terminators 350 each 2 units of 5 Wardens 275 1 unit of Wardens 220 Trajann would be paired with the unit of 4 Wardens

[@Rejnols]

@@badzilla1173 imo wardens without a character isn't worth it, for sure not as 5 man squads.

[@cranjusmc.baskettball5177]

No Genestealer cults?

[@themisdimou4011]

having played recently against DG with their new rules......it was tough. First of all it was the first time i got wiped since the beginning of 10th. Secondly they can reliably force you invus with high volume of fire and they are cheap af currently. It was....not a fun match

[@doomdog797]

Yeah Orks, need some no switch power claws. Mozrod, beast snagas. Would hurt a lot more but still not easy for us. 😊

[@themanwithaplan9171]

I am still pretty new to the game, and I have a buddy who uses necrons, in his army he has 3 doomsday arks that always seems to just annihilate my guys, especially when he has them where I cannot deep strike into honestly i never really seem to come close to beating him.

[@infantrymasterWIC]

I believe the 1+ save Redemptor is not legal if you do run into it.. save characteristic can't be modified to a 1+ on the datasheet - it's a pre-game enhancement so it can't start the game with a 1+

[@RturokDaw]

Yeah 1+ save isn't a thing.

[@Rejnols]

Do explain how 1+ save can't be a thing? I am well aware it's not saving on 1's, but you can still reduce AP. Otherwise anything with s 2+ save would not benefit from cover

[@Birri919]

​@@Rejnols It's a difference between modifying the characteristic and modifying the roll. Let's use the example you used in the video. AP-3 shooting at a save 2+ in cover with AoC and stratagem. Step 1. Roll 2+. Let's say we roll a 2, so we're good, right? That's where AP comes in to modify the roll. Step 2. Apply modifiers. So, the weapon that was shot is AP-3, but we're benefitting from cover, so that's a +1 to our save, and AOC reduces the AP by 1, so now it's AP-2, but +1 from cover. Step 3. Final Saving throw value. Base roll of 2, minus 2 from AP, plus 1 from cover, equals 1. The save is failed since you cannot have a 1+ save.

[@Rejnols]

@@Birri919 it's a total ap reduction by 3. 1 from the iron hands strat, 1 from cover and 1 from the AoC strat

[@diplague]

@@Rejnols Rules Commentary page 17, paragraph 'Improving WS, BS, Sv and Ld': WS, BS and Sv characteristics can never be modified to 1+ or better.

[@diegoperez-ej8zj]

Idk jack shit about the table top game itself. Just paint and lore. But actually exvited to learn, this video is my first 😂

[@AirsoftBande]

Totally disagree to deathguard. The -1 save bubble of all units and fight first of the Foul Blightspawns is horrible for custodes. You always be forced in your +4 save and have to use 2 cp for your own fight first. If not, even normal plague marines are dangerous to a 5 man guard squad.

[@Rejnols]

The fight first part you can get out of by not charging and then using fight first. Just let them come to you, if they don't you outscore them. I haven't played the matchup so i can't say for sure, but it seems pretty simple in my head

[@AirsoftBande]

Yeah I had a mach yesterday. It was horrible. Even if you do not charge they will shoot your guys down in no time. But anyways great videos. Keep up the good work. 👍

[@sebastianmeyer8039]

I would say Custodes vs. Necrons is a Auto win for Necrons. I will kill everything what you got until round 3 or 4. 1 Monolith 2 Doomsday Arcs 1 Lychguard 1 Overlord 1 Tecnomancer 2 Hexmark Destroyer 1 Cetan with 4+ fnp some scarabs and 1 Heavy Destroyer for mission play

[@guerrillavanilla]

I am 3-0 vs Death Guard this edition, so not a huge sample size, but IMO Custodes wipe them out. We are stronger, tougher, more mobile, pass all their stat checks and their debuffs do not bother us as much as they would other armies. Oh and their damage is not enough to get into us. They hit us but we hit them back harder.

[@janelance7257]

Your description of sisters is why I hate current way army index is built. Having one scary (when buffed enough) unit isn't what I want from an army

[@pqfire0950]

I take a caladius and an armiger which helps against alot of this. I want to get a second caladius soon.

[@alexrowson-brown6568]

2 caladius is incredible to soften up enemy big shooting

[@aaronewen1234]

Im wanting a 3rd caladius, they are nuts

[@alexrowson-brown6568]

@@aaronewen1234 not sure I can justify a third at 2k

[@aaronewen1234]

@@alexrowson-brown6568 hmm depends on what your going into i guess my locals theres a lot of vehicle lists floating about

[@alexrowson-brown6568]

@@aaronewen1234 same, allarus and 2 caladius is very lethal as allarus will clear up chaff infantry too in droves as well as get good melee into vehicles just gotta hide em well do get the right charges

[@alexrowson-brown6568]

7 man allarus brick will shoot away a necron guard brick then charge and slash away lychguard brick

[@piotrjeske4599]

And it should considering the difference point costs.

[@alexrowson-brown6568]

@@piotrjeske4599 it’s the only thing we have that can…. It is a big investment yes but it’s arguably our best brick now, only way we clear necron warriors is with max allarus focusing them in shooting Same for only way we can clear lychguard Anything else won’t be Killy enough unless you can kill the lords with precision twice Plus having fall back shoot and charge can give us enough to handle both objectives fairly well

[@alexrowson-brown6568]

Drukhari is kill the dark lances then easy game but leilith can clear up a squad of custodies on her own

[@piotrjeske4599]

Only way l have seen DE be played is out of the eldar codex as Ynari.

[@alexrowson-brown6568]

@@piotrjeske4599 there is no ynari anymore or eldar codex The dark lances are a thing but keep out of sight then pop out and we can shoot way infantry with them quite easily and the tanks can handle vehicles that have them

[@alexrowson-brown6568]

Morty doesn’t ignore -1 damage it is a weapon characteristic not a unit characteristic

[@Rejnols]

In WTC they do, same with Trajann

[@alexrowson-brown6568]

@@Rejnols I don’t care about wtc, official ruling is they don’t ignore it. You wanna play 40K use FW rulings It’s well known weapon characteristics are not unit characteristics and this faq clearing it up is finally what we need and should be adopted everywhere else you’re not playing 40K properly

[@Rejnols]

@@alexrowson-brown6568 except its not an FAQ. Its a ruling for one tournament by the events team and not the rules team

[@alexrowson-brown6568]

@@Rejnols still an raq sheet on gw headed paper which will have been checks through the rules team to ensure they are correct

[@andreyshilovskiy3787]

played against tyranids, I lost at 70-0 points....) He just sniped all I had and that is it)

[@chrishinkley5743]

Havent played since 5e came out my kids picked up stuff to play my old armies that they have no memory of me ever playing i stopped when they were little more important things to do but i now have the itch again but seeing what 40k turned into yeah im out itch is gone this is not 40k all the changes and gw still has the same problems and now it appears to be more like a ccg not a tabletop wargame your video helped me decide to not bother with gw ever again but my love for black templars and imperial fists has at least passed on through both my sons and im happy for them and will help them with learning to paint but let them find their own footing into whatever this has become .... but it is not 40k i started in 3e loved the horus heresy book series up to book 9 when i had my kids and they were my priority great memories but alas only that .. i did enjoy the video though

[@piotrjeske4599]

It is not very fun to go in to a game knowing you will be losing, but maybe by not that much, outside of team events. You swiss out after 4 games and there is no reason to play forno prize slot 30-40. You then have to wait for others to finish and pay for gas. In store games it is even worse. Come to store , other dude gets to have fun, go home.

[@Neokigali]

GSC wins 100-0 vs custodes...the drop turn is painful

[@UrielVentris1984]

yea the whole grey knights cant kill stuff is really really stupid i could go toe toe to toe with them in 8th and 9th, especially 9th i could kill any of them but now well for most editions GW really hates grey knights, its been most prominent this edition where whoever on GWS design team or even the CE0- decided well lets nerf them to the ground, were done with regular nerfs (gk get nerfed more then any ofter faction for TWO DECADES!) having an army suck that long and onley bieng good for 2 years out of twenty eats at you, you wonder why in the lore they rival custodes, but on the table thier weaker then space marines. its messed up. GW better redo the army perminently when they get thier codex, they dont feel like gk and dont feel very elite, just fast moving semi durable units. with rubber wepons.

[@chrishinkley5743]

Old player .... this is just gw from day one 1 or 2 broken armies people dont play anything else then nerf next 2 become broken then nerf ect ect ...cycle continues i havent played since 5e and wont be coming back to the game ever again had the itch watched a couple videos and no just no its not 40k anymore horrible game design made worse it is simply the story i love but the game actually seems worse now 20 plus years later