How Did Carthage Become Powerful Enough To Rival Rome? | Metropolis | Odyssey

Carthage came into being as a Phoenician trading base, its strategically favourable location eventually allowing it to develop into a major centre of trade and seafaring. Carthage, Rome's fierce adversary, is the gateway to the treasures of Africa
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[@jayfarian166]

I love ancient history, yet I believe that the title of the video should be edited to : How did Rome become powerful enough to rival Carthage. A reversal is needed. The phoenicians settled and then expanded its territory while Rome was a local power, and not a regional one.

[@Simonjose7258]

The Title is Backwards. How did Rome... Carthage was Powerful and established when Rome was just a backwater.

[@deeppurple883]

Cartage was founded 83 years before Rome and they made use of those year's. Expansion trade. 👊 ☘️

[@Simonjose7258]

@@deeppurple883 WRONG! I mean... technically maybe if you go back to the FOUNDING LEGENDS of Rome but NO. Carthage was already established and powerful in 800 B.C.!!! The Romans would conquer them almost 700 YEARS LATER!!! The Classic Greeks haven't even happened yet! Alexandre the Great was Circa 300 BC and the Ptolmeys ruled Egypt until Cleopatra around 30 B.C. and THEN the Romans take over the Mediterranean. They only recently conquered Carthage during the Punic Wars in 146 B.C. Just 100 years before Egypt and nearly 1000 YEARS since the Phoenicians settled in what would become Carthage. So DEFINITELY backwards. Carthage was founded by seafaring merchants and traders. Rome was founded by a She-wolf that gave life to Romulus and Remus and saved them by suckling them with her milk, somewhere in the Latin Wilderness... according to legend, around the same time...Rome was but an idea at this point. The Etruscans were still the Ruling Class and Culture at this time until it was assimilated by Rome starting in the 4th Century B.C. Again... almost 600 YEARS after the founding of Carthage. 1000 years is a LONG TIME! The Phoenicians were the first group to sail the seas and settle new lands only 100 years after the Bronze Age Collapse.

[@markmorris7123]

Not really.. Rome was always a military power. They were a militaristic state. .Why do you think Alexander never attempted to conquer them..

[@sterlingcampbell2116]

​​@@markmorris7123 because he died. he had plans to fight them both but he died. And no...Rome was a minor state in 300 BC while Carthage was a superpower. Rome was under Etruscan rule for centuries while Carthage commanded the whole of the Mediterranean

[@sjaakafhaak5441]

Rome became powerful on the remains of the Etruscans. They were not backward

[@klaudioabazi4478]

The Title should be how did Rome rose to rival Carthage? Carthage was a fascinating empire, in many ways the first capitalist state as many historians have called it. The tragedy of Carthage is that even though they produced Hannibal, the rest of the leadership lacked in their fight against Rome, and sadly for them it proved to be their doom.

[@pharaohsmagician8329]

*Rise my Son, and Avenge your Father!* Listen to the metal song about Hannibal, Ex Deo- Hannibal

[@TheKhiro13]

.n

[@ishouldofdestroyedrome2399]

@@pharaohsmagician8329 …

[@sterlingcampbell2116]

Yes, Carthage would have won the second Punic war of they had been united in that cause.

[@richardmollohan954]

The description of this video is misleading Carthage was an Empire way before Rome. It was started hundreds of years before Rome was nothing more than a couple tents on a riverbank

[@ancientsitesgirl]

great topic! It's a pity there isn't much left of Carthage, I'm going to visit Tunisia with my camera✌🎥

[@danyelnicholas]

A very good documentary with excellent narration and featuring sympathetic Tunisian scientists as well as impressive reconstructions. The only weird thing (that all such documentaries seem to have in common) is the constant cutting away from finds and documents to close-up faces and gadgets. Rather then seeing an ancient stela or trinket we are forced to look at a random modern face that is supposedly looking at the thing we crave to examine instead.

[@matiusbond6052]

Danyel Nicholas... Good point

[@VampMedusa]

Yes!!! I don't like actors in documentaries. I love when they use technology to recreate buildings, statues, or faces from skulls...but that's the only help I want for my imagination.

[@ssherrierable]

You should make a better one more suitable to your liking…

[@rajarshichakraborty8862]

The title should have been the opposite, Carthage had always been a superpower in the western mediterranean, it was Rome who became the new dawg in town

[@kevinnorwood8782]

Rajarshi Chakraborty I was literally just about to type exactly that.

[@delakayi6286]

Me too 😂

[@benjaminparrishiii1865]

Hannibal should have destroyed Rome in the 2nd Punic war.

[@freeloader510]

I wish this was way longer but it will suffice. There are so much unsaid things about Carthage and Carthaginians. Hopefully one day we can learn more about them rather than the Romans, who build their cities in Carthage's ashes. Most people know Carthage from their struggles against Rome but that's only the last 100 years of the great city. Romans mostly destroyed Carthaginian cultural heritage and claimed their already establish industries. They entered Carthage when it was a city of marble and they leave it with a city of ashes...

[@sterlingcampbell2116]

Carthaginian leadership was riddled with greed and corruption. Rather than supporting Hannibal in Italy they argued and were disunited. It cost them their empire and their culture. Rome was united in their cause and, because of that, they won and became the example that modern nations emulate,p

[@bethbartlett5692]

I'd love to see a Series on the Phonecians and also the Etruscans, and not handicapped by "Mainstream Academics and their 19th Century Theory Paradigm." (Their Paradigm is so absolutely illogical and adolescent minded.)

[@davidd.c.9344]

Woe to the vanquished. Maybe win a war and stories will be told about your civilization. Lose and be forgotten. Just the way it is.

[@kb-tu2kf]

I wish an expert will, one day, uncover the history of a modest condiment which was produced; on a grand scale, in Carthage and exported all around the Mediterranean, especially to Rome. It was called "Garum", so I read and was much appreciated. There must be the remnants of that industry in Carthage. Coincidence : Tunisia exports today an other condiment reminiscent of that trade the famous "Harissa". I think the modern version of garum would be the fish sauce produced in Scandinavian countries, although it is obviosly a different commodity having nothing in common with garum.

[@JB-sl9vg]

Shouldn't the question be "How Did Rome Become Powerful Enough To Rival Carthage?"

[@bluesky6985]

Because the Bible says that Rome would be the empire not Carthage.

[@stephenodell9688]

@@bluesky6985 Carthage practiced all the same things that their founders, Sidon and Tyre, like child sacrifice. When I was there i went to one of the groves and saw where they put the ashes of the babies. Their symbol looks like a woman but it is the sun rising over the eastern mountains and what looks like arms arms are a baby ready for sacrifice. This is the information I got while i was there. The city is ruins no one lives there. the only thing standing was the stadium the rich homes are out side the old city along the cost.

[@bluesky6985]

@@stephenodell9688 That's what I hear.

[@JB-sl9vg]

@@bluesky6985 You're joking, right?

[@jasonbrown5014]

came to say this

[@mooyathegeek]

Carthage taught military strategy and naval war to Rome during the 1st and 2nd Punic. Therefore, the title should the opposite. That's important to tell true history to next generations.

[@fryertuck6496]

Weird title, Rome was the upstart that rose to rival Carthage.

[@fredrikeriksson8123]

Correct! Carthage was already a super-power!

[@FieldHoodGaming]

I think the title of this video is backwards

[@Otoño24]

It seems that great powers are destined to perish at the hands of more aggressive rising ones. Such was Carthage's fate at the hands of the Romans.

[@fr7805]

The Title is eurocentric and slightly prejudiced the right title should have been "How did Rome rise to rival Carthage" as the upstart was definitely Rome not Carthage.

[@Louis-ue7co]

Think the bigger question is how did Carthage allow Rome to rival her.

[@NostalgicMem0ries]

bruh... call me when carthage rules entire europe

[@anerdwithglasses7429]

@@NostalgicMem0ries they would have if Rome hadn't been out for control and subjugation and destroyed the entire place.

[@NostalgicMem0ries]

@@anerdwithglasses7429 well before or after rome no one had that much of land as rome did... so your assumption is not really good

[@WanderfalkeAT]

Damn you took the words out of my mouth!

[@luiscarrillo8178]

@@NostalgicMem0ries why so sensitive are you Neros personal fuckboy

[@andrewtongue7084]

Superlative documentary !!

[@kweejibodali3078]

i love thèse docs... and i love these classy english narrators , and how you get in a guy who speaks french or some other european language to say a few words in their language and it's all good ,,,☺️ love the costumed re enactments too... with actors who show the possible diversity of the region ☺️👍

[@yesic7196]

True!

[@SotonSam]

Thank you ❤️

[@mobilegames9286]

Carthage will never fall ..it's exist deep in every Carthaginian heart we will rise soon..

[@bethbartlett5692]

Note to self, "Watch again". *I so admire the Phonecians, just love those guys! They were Boss and Mobile! Tin resources were available in Michigan, USA and there was so much removed from there in Ancient Times, it could only have been the Phonecians loading up ships with it ...

[@bretnielsen5502]

The coins we have from Carthage bear the Horse under a palm tree. The silver coins were heavily debased after the Second Punic War.

[@deeppurple883]

Cartage came into existence 83 year's before Rome. They had that head start and exseld and expanded. So you have it the wrong way around. 👊 ☘️

[@ishouldofdestroyedrome2399]

Title should be different such as - How did Rome rise to end our great civilisation.

[@gusfrangie936]

It should be how did a backwater Rome come to rival a powerful civilization as Carthage. If you look carefully at the timeline, you'll see that Rome rose after it adopted Carthage's civilization and commercial empire. Furthermore, whatever ancient civilization had children cemeteries. This bids the question, what were these other civilizations doing with their dead children and not accuse the Phoenicians of infanticide. As far as citing Abraham of trying to sacrifice his son as proof, you shouldn't forget that Abraham was a Mesopotamian and not a levantine(Canaanite)

[@PAPITO_49]

Very well presented enjoyed it very much

[@UmairMalik-dm9ju]

The title should be, " How did Rome become powerful enough to rival Carthage"

[@connorhauss6044]

I’m not even going to watch this because of the title. Rome happened after Carthage. The carthaginians achieved stuff the Greeks and Romans didn’t even understand.

[@stephenmascari950]

Rome had pressed into use innumerable " citizen ' soldiers while Carthage was using mercenaries

[@EllieMaes-Grandad]

Rome became powerful enough to rival Carthage, then via the Punic Wars destroyed Carthage.

[@DieBieneFranz]

Partly I like this documentary, but most of it is so super reductive, it's a shame. Also the title is misleading. Carthage was a superpower when rome was tiny and didn't have much influence. Also the reason what led to the destruction wasn't pointed out correctly. Here it would have been much more interesting to learn about the real background, even when just scetched out a bit, that led to the fate of this city

[@straytarnish9443]

It seems like an authentic civilization would be instead of full of hat makers that sell their hats to others it would be full of people who made their own hats and didn't require hat makers and weren't willing to sell necessities of life to each other

[@garygone5234]

To many commercials, but thank you for posting it

[@stephenmascari950]

--- seems you have that backwards...' How did Rome become powerful enough to rival Carthage. "

[@jonerlandson1956]

now we're getting into things...

[@kingjoe3rd]

Didn't you mean, "How Did Rome Become Powerful Enough To Rival Carthage?

[@cedricodeano3715]

Hmm 🤔 🧐 very interesting

[@jordanbingham8711]

I think you mean 'How did Rome become powerful enough to rival Carthage'. Thumbs down for the stupid title. And for posting all the same videos as Timeline.

[@matiusbond6052]

Jordan Bingham Yes Carthage existed 100 yrs prior to Rome.The population was 500.000 not 100,000,and the majority of the people were native black and brown Africans,not Arabs or Turks

[@bhyilyes]

the historical question : How did Rome become powerful enough to rival Carthage ?

[@user-vw6bk4pb4l]

Exactly. These people love to read history upside down...

[@NaderAbedrabbojanineh-nh1kr]

Carthage Didn't Come To Rival Rome ... Carthage was A Thrive Culture Centuries before Rome ... It's The Other Way ... Rome became To Rival Carthage ... When Rome Was A Little City ... Carthage Already Was The Mediterrenean Super Power ... All The Knowledge That The Romans had Was Originally From Carthage ... Construction , Ship building , And Maritim Navegation ...

[@sjbenton1423]

Who is the narrator

[@alanprayogi8477]

Good ending for margot

[@peterrogr7517]

me coming here after Luna vs Galois war xD

[@Cloudkaos.]

do bear in mind Carthage was 700 years ahead, in all, Rome was a muddpile literally, so the headline isnt just, provokotive sharlatanes

[@cleverfitz779]

Good morning everyone

[@kenyonmoon3272]

Other way around from the title, no? Carthage was an old and established city by the time Rome became a power?

[@Tony-pk6ql]

Wow, this video title is completely misguided. Whoever wrote it has a good career in politics awaiting them. Rome was the underdog, not Carthage.

[@straytarnish9443]

Maybe the people that didn't like Rome simply didn't want to contribute to the Roman affection for breeding little boys for the emperor to train as fishes before he threw them off a cliff @ age 9 with broken legs for not "talking right"

[@CrazyBrosCael]

You mean: how did Rome become powerful enough to rival Carthage?

[@straytarnish9443]

The best thing about archeology is that all the mean people are dead

[@Synathidy]

"All the mean people are dead?" As long as people exist, this cannot be true.

[@kaloarepo288]

If Alexander the Great hadn't died in Babylon at the age of 33 he would almost certainly ,after invading Arabia,then turned to the western regions invading first Italy and confronting Rome and after that he would have taken on Carthage.The Greeks in Sicily had been in constant war with the Phoenicians and Carthaginians in Sicily and here was the perfect chance to destroy one of the main enemies of the Greeks!Concerning who would have won had Alexander taken on Rome -the prominent Roman historian Livy was in no doubt that the Romans would have won -even considering that Rome at that time was quite a small empire.

[@WilliamLawrence7]

Actually his path was already known. He was going to invade Arabia first and then Carthage next, heck when he died, they were already loading up to leave for the Arabian invasion, which didn't get called off till after or right before he died. Perhaps had he been quick, and successful, he would have turned north, hit spain, and then down into Italy, but we'll never know...

[@TB7530]

The Phoenicians created most Mediterranean port cities.

[@jonerlandson1956]

to understand the Phoenicians you may need to understand the origin of Tyre..

[@matiusbond6052]

The original Phoenicians were Egyptians,Tyre had very little imput on Carthage

[@jonerlandson1956]

@@matiusbond6052 that's a big step but they did get their cedar from syria... so control in that region would have been important... but egyptians had this thing about leaving egypt... they always wanted to return... even after death...

[@jonerlandson1956]

@@matiusbond6052 i think the phonecians were more of a satellite state of egypt...

[@jonerlandson1956]

@@matiusbond6052 i also think the exodus was a journey to populate the earth but what do i know...

[@matiusbond6052]

@@jonerlandson1956 Yes ,and an OLD map of Africa shows those areas of Saudi Arabia,Lebanon.Isreal were called NORTHEAST AFRICA inhabited by Africans

[@colinbingham4974]

Carthage did not last long after 180bc because rome wiped them out and killed over 350 thousand people

[@medferhy2927]

The Title is so manipulative, wrong and backwards, exactly like the propaganda of Rome.

[@ziedghozzia4596]

Your title is in backwards, Learn how to learn about history.

[@thx1138thecrane]

More like how did Rome become powerful enough to rival Carthage?

[@WindQueen12]

The priest looked creepy

[@nehemiahyasharahla7258]

Great history of Hannibal and the Carthagians people they sure gave the Romans a run for their money in the war. I think Hannibal beat the Romans 3 times if my memory serve me correctly.

[@Stephen-wb3wf]

Bad title as others have mentioned.

[@yungpep]

This question is back to front, Carthage was there before Rome, j give up with the channel

[@EllieMaes-Grandad]

Makes one wonder how little the author knows . . . . about anything!

[@WilliamLawrence7]

Well this is really old and outdated. We've not only uncovered the bones of children, but inscriptions that show which children where sacraficed to which gods. I got to figure that knowledge is older than this video, so what gives with the blatent misleading here?

[@WanderfalkeAT]

What the Fuck? How became Carthage strong enough to rival Rome? The better and more historical correct Question: How did little Rome become a Rival to the big Trading Empire of Carthage. Carthage was a Empire when Rome was a Village!

[@matiusbond6052]

Odyssey-Ancient History Documentaries..We will set the record straight here,and will produce videos in several yrs in order to correct the inaccuracies and fabrications which exist today on this subject.The majority of Carthagenians were native black and brown Africans,and were the ruling class.The population of Carthage was not representative of those presented in this video.Non Africans were mainly picked up along trade routes.When Africans built Carthage in 846 bc Rome didn't exist which destroys the title of this video,and Europeans were only hunter gatherers,and the middle east had no advanced Empires.In ancient times Africa was the teacher not the student.,as confirmed by the Greeks.Carthage was occupied by native Africans long before Egyptians who were the original Phoenicians setteled there.The Bible says Phoenicians/Canaanites r descendants of Ham,father of the dark race,all statues,artifacts,and drawings confirm this.The video,ANCIENT INHABITANTS OF CARTHAGE is only a small confirmation of part of this history.The Mediterrainian had no influence on African culture,history or technology,these intities were developed in Africa and were distributed to the rest of the world.It is an insult to true history,and it's descendants to keep showing fabrications ,and a narritive that is illogical ,and was non existant.

[@rififienforce]

Carthage/north africa not black Subsahara is black

[@bubaq3713]

the title is stupid

[@ThrillSeekerKE]

Great to be first here 😀

[@bluesky6985]

I prefer to 🐝 best

[@gilliangallagher1918]

OMG is this wrong!!!

[@magomedteps9372]

Древнего чеченского аланского народа тайп (род) Чианти один из древнего этрусков империи племен, который после падение Трои ушли на Кавказ,а другие в Италию, основали сакральную крепость Чианти и непосредственно принимали участия при строительстве древнего г. Рим. Города и гробницы Чианти этрусков Такие сооружения можно встретить у Кортоны, в Чианти и Вей. В 6-ом веке до н.э. династия Чианти этрусков правила городе Рим, после нашествия византийской державы и арабского халифата на территории древнего чеченского аланского народа Чианти этрусков (цанар) империи слилась с разными финикийскими племенами. В 13-веке. Многие на территории древнего чеченского аланского народа Чианти этрусков (цанар) империи из за китайского - монгольского нашествия, покидают сакральную территорию древнего чеченского аланского народа Чианти этрусков (цанар) империи и мигрируют в Европу и Италию в провинцию Чианти к своим сородичам,которые в последствии прославляют эту провинцию прекрасными винами (секрет вин чиантийцы) китайцы - монголы из за сильного чиантийцами оказанного ожесточенного сопротивления, разрушают до основания на реке с. Дон-Чианти, в Чионти Тушети, и крепость Тазбичи (Чианти-мохк) kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZqfQXq2Lbdatn9k

[@mazrio128]

Worst title ever

[@Cloudkaos.]

LOL😅 im to serious

[@bluesky6985]

Carthage became a shrine and Rome became the Empire just like the Bible says.

[@matiusbond6052]

Carthage was an Empire before Rome even existed

[@mick7even]

Ahh ok I see where capitalism came from.

[@magomedteps9372]

После уничтожения территории древнего чеченской арийского народа республики (sassaniden reich) византийской державы и арабский халифат войска двинулись на территорию древнего чеченского аланского народа Чианти этрусков (цанар) империи. Этот факт упоминается у арабского халифата историка ал-Масуди о территории древнего чеченского аланского народа Чианти этрусков (цанар) империи - прямые потомки Алан в (Византийских документах они как Цанар), одной их самых славных частей элл нахов (алан) круга племен и народов. Зимой 853 года на территории древнего чеченского аланского народа Чианти этрусков (цанар) империи совершили самое великое деяние в своей истории. На южных склонах Большого Кавказа, у горловины Дарьяльского ущелья, они сначала остановили и затем наголову разбили 120 тысячную армию Багдадского арабского халифа, вторгшуюся в Закавказье. Об этой войне, об этой победе и о происхождении Чианти этрусков (цанар) пишет.Знаменитый арабского халифата ученый-энциклопедист ал-Масуди в книге «Мурудж аз-захаб» («Золотые истоки»), написанной в 20-30-е годы X века, приводит такие сведения: «между приграничной областью г. Калаки (Тифлис) и уже упомянутой крепостью «Аланские ворота» лежит царство территории древнего чеченского аланского народа Чианти этрусков (цанар) империи, Царь которого называется керист ву на финикийском - греческом (хорэпископос), что является обычным титулом здешних царей… Они христиане.

[@andrewrambiki4823]

This axbs story. Carthage is in Africa but was founded by Europeans 😅😅😅😅😅. This is pre comedy

[@JohnDoe-or5zo]

Leave the people of the past IN there Graves...how disrespectful

[@Synathidy]

People who died don't care, on account of being dead. The only being on Earth with any grounds to remotely care about digging up the dead are the microbes which decompose them. How does digging up bones disrespect anyone? It doesn't. The dead cannot feel anything, know anything, or react to anything. They do not exist anymore. Your absurd request is basically asking archaeologists to stop being archaeologists.

[@TB7530]

Mundane and surface level history. I wont finish watching.

[@trinisavagegaming7241]

SMH white wash as usual HMMM

[@bluesky6985]

Carthage came from the same place that Rome came from, Troy, and Troy came from the Red Thread line of the tribe of Judah and Dan.

[@thomas3108bb]

That's an interesting idea. Where could hear more about it?

[@bluesky6985]

@@thomas3108bb kzbin.info/www/bejne/e6W7k62Fad2flcU

[@bluesky6985]

@@thomas3108bb Read Genesis 38 to find the origin of the Red Thread line of the tribe of Judah

[@Synathidy]

@@bluesky6985 Fantastical tomes are not history books.

[@bluesky6985]

@@Synathidy History is a lie 🤥 agreed 🤝 upon.

[@chris72.]

Does anyone know about the history of Hannibal? You know the guy who couldn't get the elephants across the Delaware to conquer the Roman empire? Everyone says he could have conquered wrong if he could have crossed that Delaware but the water was too cold and the elephants would not get on those boats to cross the Delaware

[@matiusbond6052]

The Phoenicians originated from EGYPT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NOT TYRE

[@aquariumaddict]

I saw a show where they did DNA testing on a Phoenician body and the closest modern day match, was the Lebanese people, not Egyptians.

[@matiusbond6052]

@@aquariumaddict ...WE study ancient history,easy to do today..A rule of thumb is to look at ANCIENT pictures,statues,writtings,mummies,artifacts,Bible writtings.drawings,people and more ,THEN compare everything to MODERN,the difference is noticible on GOOGLE or anywhere else!!!MODERN, Dna IS almost exact.but in the hands of a liar means nothing.pictures of the people on MODERN are almost all lighter,and other areas are fabricated.Carthagenians were majority Native Africans,nonAfricans were picked up on trade routes.Even whitewashed videos confirm Egyptians were in Lebanon and those areas 1st.

[@AnnhilateTheNihilist]

@@aquariumaddict that’s because Phoenicians were from Tyre which is in Lebanon, not Egypt.

[@matiusbond6052]

@@AnnhilateTheNihilist I strongly suggest u research TRUE logical history which is available today In 845 bc when Africans built Carthage Europeans were only hunter gatherers,ROME didn't exist,and the Mid East was just above primitive/Carthagenians were mainly native Africans NOT the people you see in this video.Egyptians were the Phoenicians as THEY had the water knowlege.The video ANCIENT INHABITANTS OF CARTHAGE IS ONLY A SMALL CONFIRMATION OF TRUE HISTORY..

[@matiusbond6052]

@@AnnhilateTheNihilist You can also view an OLD map of the region where Lebanon.Saudi Arabia.Isreal exist ,at that time it was called NORTHEAST AFRICA inhabited by Africans.There were never any Lebanese language or culture anywhere in Africa.Also every statue/artifact on YOU TUBE shows Phoenicians with Black features.