How Did Ragnar Sons ACTUALLY Die? Bjorn Death, Ivar the Boneless Death & MORE |

[@jjlambonscloudyproductions]

I mean raiding lands,learning,returning home as a king,and with trade setting up cash flow for your kingdom, and then dying peacefully...sounds glorious to me lol

[@HistoricalExit]

Haha yea ur totally right, epic and glorious

[@eriandhor]

The vikings tvshow creator Michael Hirst also stated in an interview that he never intended to make a historical accurate tvshow. It was made for entertainment only.

[@butchwallace8114]

Well he did his job cause it was a very entertaining show

[@AngerySnek]

Which was a shame since a lot of the inaccurate things in the show didn't even add any entertainment value to the series regardless, like Rollo being Ragnar's brother, Lagertha's disappointing death that Ubbe and the others could have stopped, Harald Fairhair somehow being OLDER than Ragnar, Sigurd Snake Eye being slain by his brother throwing a tantrum, Aslaug being straight up evil, Ragnar being an opium addict and slaying Yidu because she wouldn't give him anymore of it (Idek what purpose she was supposed to serve in the show other than making Ragnar look like an asshole). Ubbe was a nobody who participated in the Great Heathen Army's invasion of England but he was featured more than Sigurd and Hvitserk who were both kings of Dublin but did barely anything of note in the show etc etc. Also, Bjorn leaving his daughter in the hands of his stepmom was an idiotic move and he didn't seem to care that much about her loss when he came back from raiding, certainly not enough to take his revenge on Aslaug

[@eriandhor]

@@AngerySnek I know the history, wich is why i said it's made for entertainment and not a history lesson. Liking it or not liking it however is a matter personal taste and oppinion.

[@AngerySnek]

@@eriandhor i just gave you a bunch of examples of things that weren't and couldn't possibly be entertaining unless you have some kind of fetish for inaccuracies. How is Hvitserk converting to christianity over being burned at the stake out of reverence to his ancestors, entertaining? What part of Harald Fairhair being the brother of Halfdan the Black is entertaining? How does Æthelstan being Alfred the Great's father and not his grandson provide entertainment? All these and more were things that build a net negative for entertainment so their excuse that that's why the inaccuracies were done doesn't make any sense

[@eriandhor]

@@AngerySnek dude lay off the attittude

[@giuliac9735]

Wow... It's so disrespectful what they did to Hvitserk! The guy allegedly preferred to die burning than covert to catholicism and on the show they made him do it... 😢

[@HistoricalExit]

Yupp all the characters that died in real life Vikings kept alive and the ones that died in old age they killed off, soo crazy lol

[@twankeys7929]

Many of the kings of Sweden/Norway/Denmark of the accepted "Viking age" rose to power because of this, either forcing the conversion or rebellion against it. Harold Fairhair was a Christian proponent. Rollo accepted the faith in order to gain land, riches, and a wife, as well as a way to leave his home troubles behind only he never completely gave up his so called heathen ways.

[@nitareed4088]

It was for entertainment...not a documentary.

[@AngerySnek]

@@nitareed4088 The way he went in the sagas is a lot more entertaining than what happened on the show

[@nitareed4088]

@@AngerySnek Probably so...

[@whiteboyramen]

I love how you site your sources for your information instead of wild speculation. I respect you greatly for that. I can’t wait to see what other videos you make!

[@HistoricalExit]

Thank you, I'm glad u enjoyed the video. I've got some interesting videos planned for the next few months, Harald Fairhair death video getting released next week

[@TimothyThejane]

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[@georgecoull1883]

"laughing shall I die" Viking proverb

[@atilax6452]

Interesting video. I expected another hitpiece on Viking and Norse history and culture. They are everywhere these days. Same for Rome, Sparta, Britain, and Greece. I enjoy facts. They do not need to be positive or negative. But, if they are false and weaponized, well, we have business. I enjoyed your video. I enjoyed the work you did and your honesty.

[@HistoricalExit]

Thank you, I am glad you enjoyed the video !

[@nightlyfrost]

Your video is freaking awesome! Well explained and thoroughly researched. Please don't quit KZbin as I look forward to seeing more videos from you.

[@HistoricalExit]

Thank you, I really appreciated your kind comment! Dw I will be continuing to post videos every week and grow the channel. Thanks for subscribing and joining the team

[@TNTnor]

At 23:09 Ivar's name is written correct here. -mh becomes a v-sound in celtic languages and pronounciation. They wrote his name like this so they would pronounce his name correctly

[@littlemouse7066]

I already knew this but it's always good to have channels about history that tell people what is plausible and what's not in movies and tv shows. Anyway people should be reasonable and understand that you can't learn history from tv shows movies or videogames because they are works of fiction made for entertainment and if they are not completely historically accurate it doesn't mean they are trash. Another thing people should understand more in my opinion is that simple violence doesn't leave any legacy Bjorn was a good ruler and that's why he left a good legacy like the sources say.

[@narcosys6934]

The show sons were depicted as different aspects of Ragnar himself.

[@dnlimb]

Great video man, looking forward to seeing more of your content

[@HistoricalExit]

Thank you, glad u enjoyed the video!

[@jm9512ha]

Thanks for stating out some facts! That show was actually good in the beginning. But after the content writer made it terrible when he decided to change what really happened in the history. For example, at the end of the season King Herald died without even having any child, then who was Eric Bloodaxe? And historically, Bjorn lived longer than Ivar, but in the show it clearly didn’t show it.

[@Knight-c8k]

It wasn't meant to be historically accurate

[@adieuuuu]

Did someone actually have the patience to watch that far?

[@tessjones5987]

Excellent presentaion. Thank you.

[@JamieWard-u2h]

Ivar the boneless was actually athletic and very agile.

[@theguy0594]

The way they killed sigurd really pd me off when i watched vikings

[@HistoricalExit]

I totally agree his character was completely wasted in the series

[@KratosJames-d3t]

Sigurd was week af Ivar was crippled and killed more people than Sigurd Sigurd was a mommas boy

[@zygiskulkulikauskas2862]

the character was trash anyway lol

[@LizzyLongshot]

My bf called him Sigurd snake in the ass and i can't not hear that when i hear him now😂

[@AngerySnek]

@@zygiskulkulikauskas2862 Ivar was also trash for kinslaying his own brother, which iirc, was something that was fairly against viking morals and customs. They hated people who killed their own family but Sigurd's death is largely ignored and Ivar seems to forget he even existed almost right away

[@josiahbushong5660]

It's sad that after all his amazing feats and skill in battle, Björn didn't make it to Valhalla. Regardless I hope he's at peace with the gods

[@HistoricalExit]

I am sure they would allow someone with the amount of glory and bravery that Bjorn had that the gods would allow him into valhalla

[@reneeblade1]

How do you figure?

[@davidkinsey8657]

Some vikings believed that if you died with a weapon in your hand you could be welcomed into Valhala, even if you died in bed.

[@bekkatheman]

Can a doc be made of all the sources, I would like to read these books.

[@wab4425]

I’m so happy for him dying in peace in old age❤

[@armiyusdy7819]

die natural cause? So he cannot be at Valhala now 😱

[@jayransford6594]

But Ivar was Ragnar's oldest son. He led the great heathen army.

[@mr.vancando4849]

Not that trustworthy of a history is it, kinda seems like they used part of the movie. He was the most feared Viking ruler. His name was more like Heartless or Hated, their language is different then

[@mr.vancando4849]

I had to come back after watch it through, it's pretty good lol. Just that Ivar was the oldest in real life, I like and agree with a lot of this. Seeing the movie in the background, made me disagree. Though I liked the movie for what it was

[@AngerySnek]

@@mr.vancando4849 I believe some have theorized that Ivar's name "Boneless" might refer to his extreme agility and flexibility, thus appearing to have no bones. He might have had hyper mobility, if he were real? Or it's just a mistranslation and he was only called the Hated/Heartless in ancient norse which isn't as interesting but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Ivar as a ninja-like viking warrior would have been awesome

[@paulbarrett7684]

What about halfdan

[@AngerySnek]

isn't Hvitserk just a nickname for Halfdan? Some scholars seem to associate both figures with each other

[@Krulltårta]

Bjorns grave on munsö have been called "björns hög" (bjorns pile) forever. Its 100% him. Just the size tells its him. Its more a Mountain than a pile..

[@jasonvazquez2563]

Great video, thanks man

[@HistoricalExit]

Thank you so much, glad u enjoyed the video!

[@jrjoy527]

Just a reminder that Bjorn was not Ragnar's son.

[@owenvitalis1377]

Lols. Bjorn was his son. They just did that scene for little speculation.

[@The_MsMerlin]

@jrjoy527 lagertha was not a real person she was based on many legendary shieldmaidens. Princess Aslaug was Bjorns mother, and Ragnar is his father

[@ThorWatson-b8k]

@@The_MsMerlin I’m not sure about that, Lagertha HLADGEROR was a real woman, married to Ragnar Lodbrok and a more fearsome shieldmaiden than was portrayed in the TV series. Lagertha was not Gyda’s or Bjorn’s mother as her & Ragnar didn’t have children so you are right in that.

[@timschaecher2899]

FYI....tone the background music down as it has a tendency to dominate the narrative.

[@edwinagray4373]

Not to me. It fits perfectly

[@shaycase1834]

I think the last kingdom did it better even tho in the books they only reference halfdan ivar and ubba. Still fiction but better than vikings

[@slashinsmash9020]

I at I swear he just disappear and never now if he died or what

[@GiGi-Gigi408]

❤I love vickings ❤

[@vickywilliams8320]

It got tedious. Never could watch it.

[@HistoricalExit]

I though it was really good till about season 4, seasons 2 &3 were the best

[@BelleLothbrok]

No.... Ivar the boneless is more famous??

[@stemill1569]

"one of the few were fiction was better than the fact"??? it's usually that fiction is better than reality.

[@SmokinBlunts781]

Ivar the boneless was goated

[@dalic24]

You called the show historical 😂😂😂😂 the entire show is fiction

[@shushinho5274]

so basically only bjorn survived

[@MrFearDubh]

In the Irish language mh before a broad vowel like an a would be pronounced like a V. So Imhar would be more like Ivar.

[@GiGi-Gigi408]

Ivar the boneless was crazy but so smart as well ❤️‍🩹

[@kensheehan1385]

Ivor would be spelt Imhor in irish because there is no "V" in the irish language. It would still be pronounced Ivor though. Think of the irish name Niamh. Spelt with MH but pronounced with the mh as a V

[@rydogswinney7737]

Right how can king aella kill ragnar in 865 ad so how can bjorn die in the early 10th how can he live 145 years later

[@HistoricalExit]

He died early 10th century, so maybe in the 900s or 910s not in the year 1000 or later

[@markroberts5971]

Lol. 10th century is from 900 AD to 999 AD. Recalculate please

[@andrewrichey7816]

Clean living and vitamins

[@rydogswinney7737]

Yeah a realised my mistake after writing this but I'll admit I had a daft moment there

[@acestrategistthefirst]

So Bjorn Ironsides didn't get to Valhalla?

[@HistoricalExit]

If I've understood norse mythology correctly then I don't think dieing in battle is a prerequisite to get into valhalla

[@mas.f.g9958]

Whoooooa he died peacefully of natural causes 😮 That was fighting talk back then 😜🤣😂 (reference, Eric the viking)... You'll be in trouble if any of his descendants are watching 😂

[@HistoricalExit]

Read the comments under this video, apparently everyone is related to ragnar or one of his sons lol

[@mas.f.g9958]

@@HistoricalExit sounds like they were, shall we say..... Prolific 😜🤣😂

[@edwardmadden1231]

Ivar was the king in Ireland Wicklow 😂 your dates n info is well off pal

[@trancecod]

Were they really all ragnars sons? 🤣 Who was actually Ragnar?

[@darrenvictor2648]

Sorry but the title to this video is clickbait. You write "How they ACTUALLY" died and what you say is inconclusive...

[@rexpitas4455]

Very bad explanation

[@nightingalesscroll]

Are you gonna go get your scholarship to Harvard? Or are you accepted already, like me? You simply seem familiar to me...

[@roesbaard]

Repeating the same information over and over to extend your video is just lazy writing

[@poopoosplatter99]

Terrible show. The blatant lies about AngloSaxon side of history of the timeline was too much. What else did they get wrong is the big question.

[@venussstar2206]

The raping,pillage and decimation of cultures,history and ppl is AngloSaxon history....Show was great btw

[@tillyt4054]

⁠@@venussstar2206It was shockingly historically inaccurate, Only a totally uneducated dimwit would think such an inaccurate show was “ great” You seem the type of person who also thinks Bridgerton is a documentary 😂

[@emperor-thesenate-palpatin5954]

Nobody said its historicly accurate, its not at all in fact. I still liked it, despite of that. If it gets people to want to learn more about the period and history, thats a good thing. But since its a tv show, it has to also be fun to watch, which it is.

[@Beth-ie]

Then... why did you watch it? Furthermore, all "history" is exactly what it means... HIS STORY. They are usually written hundreds of years after the events. Most couldn't read or write, just the few upper "class" priests or rulers. Old history are merely guesses, and all are unwitnessed tales. (smh... thinks a TV show is crap because it doesn't follow made-up tales. Watch Real Housewives! Now that's totally real... 😂)

[@twankeys7929]

You should probably actually listen to his statements. The conclusions made are in direct relation to sources used. Just as with all ancient histories, most information is recorded well after the fact. I, personally, disagree with a few statements in this video. But partially this is due to my Norse and Scandinavian ancestry. While I also have Norman English ancestry, well recorded, this also traced back to Scandinavian roots. All of history can be seen as a guessing game, since we cannot be 100% sure of any written source. So, grain of salt, man. It's all possible.