How Did The Shanghai Dragons Roll Their Way To Victory? - Pro Overwatch Analysis

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Akshon Esports

Akshon Esports

3 жыл бұрын

In today's video, we analyze how the Shanghai Dragons methodically incorporated Wrecking Ball into their team compositions when going up against the Dallas Fuel during the finals of the 2021 Overwatch League June Joust.
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@scorchedsea2388
@scorchedsea2388 3 жыл бұрын
The real mvp was coach moon for his impressive adaptability
@user-ce6cl8wg3r
@user-ce6cl8wg3r 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t get it
@RTYR
@RTYR 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah! I would've never come up with Wrecking Ball to stop the Fuel's amazing momentum. It really was a battle of an unstoppable object met an immovable and adaptive force
@michaelcostello3080
@michaelcostello3080 3 жыл бұрын
@@user-ce6cl8wg3r the coach (coach moon) was responsible for coming up with the idea of using ball
@LieMintPyon
@LieMintPyon 3 жыл бұрын
was it moon that came with the idea? or was it fate that suggest it and make it work?
@Number9Robotic
@Number9Robotic 3 жыл бұрын
@@LieMintPyon Ideally coaches and players always should be collaborating, so probably both.
@dhruvmukherjee7628
@dhruvmukherjee7628 3 жыл бұрын
I loved how everyone doubted Fates ball pick but it worked extremely well for shangai.
@H01ygrail
@H01ygrail 3 жыл бұрын
might even have been match mvp tbh
@lagavr4693
@lagavr4693 3 жыл бұрын
@@H01ygrail definitely was. On Chinese owl (bilibili) fate was match mvp
@nephalemmadeline
@nephalemmadeline 3 жыл бұрын
Is your KZbin profile pic Sova?
@dhruvmukherjee7628
@dhruvmukherjee7628 3 жыл бұрын
@World Op yes it is
@thomaseverard9732
@thomaseverard9732 3 жыл бұрын
I was a doubter, but know I believe
@David-fy6oc
@David-fy6oc 3 жыл бұрын
I still remember when one of the chatter says "why are they forcing ball so much!! They're throwing!!" 😂
@thegamingpigeon8709
@thegamingpigeon8709 3 жыл бұрын
To be fair not a single person had faith in the dragons at the start, those first two maps were brutal for them
@boomingbob1579
@boomingbob1579 2 жыл бұрын
Yet they force fearless off Winston into hog of all tanks
@saadiqmuhammad2856
@saadiqmuhammad2856 3 жыл бұрын
This pro analysis with the danganropa music in the back made me feel like a detective 🕵🏾‍♂️ this was super awesome and the dragons surprise us every season
@brown9671
@brown9671 3 жыл бұрын
super
@thefactor910
@thefactor910 3 жыл бұрын
And Katana Zero music!
@sparFuu
@sparFuu 2 жыл бұрын
Especially the first season
@edgyweeeb5334
@edgyweeeb5334 3 жыл бұрын
You forget the fact that fearless changed into roadhog on eichenwald because of fates wrecking ball.
@kaoskongo
@kaoskongo 2 жыл бұрын
That was when it felt like the fuel were on the run mentally.
@tiny_dargeon
@tiny_dargeon 3 жыл бұрын
Every single time I see "Pro Overwatch", I read it as "PrOverwatch"
@sleepsforever4073
@sleepsforever4073 3 жыл бұрын
There were so many people doubting the Fate Ball when he was playing it a lot in the regular matches, the June Joust taught us that Fate Ball worked
@catnip202xch.
@catnip202xch. 3 жыл бұрын
You know you gotta believe Fate, his Ball, and His Balls for the huge plays.
@koxahh9
@koxahh9 3 жыл бұрын
“That’s an amazing play by Fleta” *literally only seeing the spam into multiple backs of teammates*
@lukraniom8731
@lukraniom8731 2 жыл бұрын
He was talking about the initial pick onto sp9rk1e but okay
@electricprincess2125
@electricprincess2125 3 жыл бұрын
Hey, thank you for this analysis! As a viewer it was difficult to understand how the Ball suddenly started to get value after losing initially, but now I see how creative the strategy was from Shanghai.
@kleinmorettifan
@kleinmorettifan Жыл бұрын
True
@iAmCyberwaste
@iAmCyberwaste 3 жыл бұрын
I can just hear that Ludacris on loop when Hammond wrecks house. ROLL OUT!
@simonhenthorn1851
@simonhenthorn1851 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve been waiting for this. This was an amazing final to watch live, and now even understanding how the Dragons turned it around makes it so much better.
@juusoleinonen
@juusoleinonen 3 жыл бұрын
That was insane match, I hoped Dallas would win, but Shanghai played incredibly well
@rivera3833
@rivera3833 3 жыл бұрын
i dont have ow but i watch a lot of ow content creators and tip couse when the day comes that i can buy ow i will be good enouch
@momdad1818
@momdad1818 3 жыл бұрын
Same for me but I've played Overwatch alot 2 years ago. I wish I could play it again.
@ahamuffin4747
@ahamuffin4747 3 жыл бұрын
What keeps you from playing?
@perry6660
@perry6660 3 жыл бұрын
@@ahamuffin4747 I used to play OW religiously, I know you’re asking him but I just want to get it of my chest, the game feels repetitive, this is not what I felt when I was playing the game in the first two years. Competitive feels so boring after I reached Top 500, there’s nothing new in the game. I don’t know why, maybe because I play Genshin Impact now, because the game gives the community new events every 1 or 2 weeks. I’ve uninstalled Overwatch, maybe if Overwatch 2 feels refreshing then I’ll give it a shot.
@ahamuffin4747
@ahamuffin4747 3 жыл бұрын
@@perry6660 yeah, his scenario is a little bit different from yours
@sorin_markov
@sorin_markov 3 жыл бұрын
I thought the same thing, but there's no telling how good you'll actually be at thinking quickly in the moment and making all the right micro decisions. Knowing the game inside and out is a leg up for sure, especially knowing how all the heroes work with/against each other, but you really need experience to be good.
@doo0ni
@doo0ni 3 жыл бұрын
i stayed up until like 3 am for this match, losing it sometimes bc of the insane plays of both teams. luckily dragons won so we have a competitive riveraly this season
@ThorenTravels
@ThorenTravels 3 жыл бұрын
And now we get a rematch. I'm so excited!
@caseydrought867
@caseydrought867 2 жыл бұрын
@@ThorenTravels nope
@ThorenTravels
@ThorenTravels 2 жыл бұрын
@@caseydrought867 O_O;
@th3tru3fury91
@th3tru3fury91 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making these videos, I love watching them as soon as they come out. :)
@ethanmcmillan4122
@ethanmcmillan4122 3 жыл бұрын
amazing and high-quality stuff as always
@fredericabernkastel8354
@fredericabernkastel8354 3 жыл бұрын
I really love your pro overwatch analyses. Always hyped to see another video in my sub box.
@mikewazowski8541
@mikewazowski8541 3 жыл бұрын
Insane video! Keep up the good work! Also want to note that fate may not have the most experience on ball, but he worked perfectly with the rest of the dragons, giving them the win.
@limboxis1022
@limboxis1022 3 жыл бұрын
D.Va crouching be like 7:21
@user-ce6cl8wg3r
@user-ce6cl8wg3r 3 жыл бұрын
Nice
@SilverKiteGD
@SilverKiteGD 3 жыл бұрын
glad to hear the katana ZERO ost again
@aquifer9480
@aquifer9480 2 жыл бұрын
It’s great driving music 👌
@Yuri-ls5ny
@Yuri-ls5ny 3 жыл бұрын
I know most people won’t even be able to hear it but I love the danganronpa music in the back ground of the video
@moh4995
@moh4995 3 жыл бұрын
We need more of this please !
@LetsTakeWalk
@LetsTakeWalk 3 жыл бұрын
"The Hamster sends his regards"
@gamerkingdom1442
@gamerkingdom1442 2 жыл бұрын
5:08 holy moly I’ve never thought of using Hammond’s Pile-drive Ability like that! The advantages of seeing these Analysis Videos of competitive play! Thank you! I may play him more tonight to test this technique out! 👍
@MadMax55777
@MadMax55777 3 жыл бұрын
Great breakdown as always!
@MirrorkatFeces
@MirrorkatFeces 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent breakdown, thanks for the insight!
@pedrocunha518
@pedrocunha518 3 жыл бұрын
I started watching owl because of this channel 2 months ago and i love the dragons, was expecting a video on this :)
@Sticks11Cards
@Sticks11Cards 3 жыл бұрын
I love the pro analysis and micro plays! Keep them up!
@theopratama9047
@theopratama9047 3 жыл бұрын
thank you akhson, i really dont get it how ball can counter the dallas fuel one trick comp. glad you guys made this!
@alilalani9531
@alilalani9531 3 жыл бұрын
IVE BEEN WAITING THANK YOU!!!!!
@Dannnneh
@Dannnneh 3 жыл бұрын
Best analysis breakdown of Overwatch.
@diegofernandez7989
@diegofernandez7989 2 жыл бұрын
What a breakdown, you guys are amazing
@iyxon
@iyxon 3 жыл бұрын
Everyone doubted the Ball pick but it turned out to the answer at the final hour.
@shooshiwhooshi8736
@shooshiwhooshi8736 3 жыл бұрын
Wrecking Ball coming in clutch was very supeising to me
@Maxxieehh
@Maxxieehh 3 жыл бұрын
Love the Danganronpa music!
@Yuri-ls5ny
@Yuri-ls5ny 3 жыл бұрын
I’m glad I wasn’t the only one who noticed I love the ost
@sergiosanchez8926
@sergiosanchez8926 3 жыл бұрын
Love the Katana Zero music
@gte465u
@gte465u 3 жыл бұрын
Can't block coalescence? Laughs in mei wall and ice block.
@mohammadahmed1290
@mohammadahmed1290 3 жыл бұрын
Kinda hard to make mei work with dive tanks because she has little mobility and her freeze which is her strongest abilities and because she’s too far away
@LieMintPyon
@LieMintPyon 3 жыл бұрын
you will get rushed and forced to cryo and when your cryo gone, you will get rushed again. mei cant block any of those heroes since they can just fly/fade/speed amp away
@nobodyspecial1056
@nobodyspecial1056 2 жыл бұрын
been watching these videos, trying to think about more stuff like this, trying to use micro plays and better positioning and have climbed to diamond
@victuh7222
@victuh7222 3 жыл бұрын
omg love the Danganronpa music, it fits so well !
@crazypenquin98
@crazypenquin98 2 жыл бұрын
Lip's 6man EMP against the Shock today turning around a 4v6
@patrickpay140
@patrickpay140 3 жыл бұрын
Was such a good game
@shialecuck4149
@shialecuck4149 2 жыл бұрын
Omg you said the cowboy name
@jadenrules100
@jadenrules100 3 жыл бұрын
Fate got so robbed of potm, they literally dont win that game without his huge plays
@krystalhaug1957
@krystalhaug1957 3 жыл бұрын
Second time reverse sweep 4-3 in owl history and it is still the Dragons! Impressive.
@bam1860
@bam1860 3 жыл бұрын
Not a reverse sweep
@jean778
@jean778 3 жыл бұрын
True, it was a comeback. Still as massive as a reverse sweep just for the 3 straight wins.
@NeonBigDummy
@NeonBigDummy 3 жыл бұрын
Fleta was the MVP Although he was not the focus of the vid, he still did a excellent job. He was like the 1 year older brother of Fate, he kept the enormous off the point while Fate respawns and he did an excellent flank
@tyler4080
@tyler4080 3 жыл бұрын
Fleta was fucking killing it on Echo that night, but I gotta MVP Fate on that Hammy
@bluebooby1274
@bluebooby1274 3 жыл бұрын
Loving the katana zero OST ;)
@andrewfornes5320
@andrewfornes5320 2 жыл бұрын
Moira's blue ultimate color is amazing
@yoanjuro7092
@yoanjuro7092 2 жыл бұрын
When summer showdown comes to an end, can y'all do an analysis on how the heck Chengdu beat Dallas, cuz I would love to see how Chengdu beat the best team in the NA region
@neonbunnies9596
@neonbunnies9596 3 жыл бұрын
0:28 Should've said "Lighting up the Fuel"
@maximeprist7400
@maximeprist7400 2 жыл бұрын
Ngl the sentence “Torbjörn on attack” gave me some traumatizing flashbacks
@VerySnowyDay
@VerySnowyDay 2 жыл бұрын
4:11 the danganronpa music gives me callbacks to my anime phane and i dont know if i should thank you or not
@Virsu
@Virsu 3 жыл бұрын
I remember fuel season 1 FeelsStrongMan
@senormacaco2834
@senormacaco2834 Жыл бұрын
ball gaming ball gaming
@JunglizmTV
@JunglizmTV 3 жыл бұрын
Fate MVP making Ball meta against Fuel's relentless dives.
@shanedadragon8601
@shanedadragon8601 2 жыл бұрын
This is y I love the Shanghai dragons
@kafukiken7079
@kafukiken7079 3 жыл бұрын
I want each team to ban the hero before playing, like dota and r6
@planetjupitergaming2192
@planetjupitergaming2192 3 жыл бұрын
It would be to difficult for the coach to etablish a good strategie
@kan6039
@kan6039 3 жыл бұрын
That would just tank the level of play because overwatch is more of a counter pick game than an fps
@gaelrodriguezvazaquez3366
@gaelrodriguezvazaquez3366 3 жыл бұрын
U could almost pick what the other team would be obligated to play, since there are like 6 healers/tanks and not all of them have good synergy
@aoifeblack_4153
@aoifeblack_4153 3 жыл бұрын
Taking out just one piece of a composition may throw it on it's head so the might have to adapt really quickly to things they don't have the time for to practice... counter picks are better and more skillful imo
@Number9Robotic
@Number9Robotic 3 жыл бұрын
Bans are very very limiting and create enormous amounts of unnecessary fatigue in a game already as counterpick-focused as Overwatch. That's why hero pool bans don't occur often anymore in the OWL, and when they do, they apply for longer periods so there's more time to comfortably adjust.
@SociallyRazed
@SociallyRazed 3 жыл бұрын
4:44 the voice crack lol
@jiaxinli8811
@jiaxinli8811 3 жыл бұрын
Before they lose, Shanghai finally found the key of this meta, don't save ult. Use whatever abilities that's ready. Including ult.
@AshimplXITY
@AshimplXITY Жыл бұрын
"Cos I'm ball god" -Fate
@MeYattie
@MeYattie 3 жыл бұрын
Dangan ronpa bgm!
@ufjghdjrgs185
@ufjghdjrgs185 3 жыл бұрын
Lets go SHANGHAI
@20moremins
@20moremins 3 жыл бұрын
had dragons 4-2 in my pickems but they were facing the reign lmao
@loofiebae
@loofiebae 2 жыл бұрын
I stopped watching after season 1 now Fuel and Shanghai are at the top o.O
@empoleon621
@empoleon621 3 жыл бұрын
Dude you guys play ost's from things like danganronpa and dr. stone and i lose my mind everytime
@freedomfries9719
@freedomfries9719 3 жыл бұрын
I would have laughed in your face if you said in the first year of OWL that one day the best teams would be Fuel and Dragons
@soob4470
@soob4470 3 жыл бұрын
best anime arch ever
@boomingbob1579
@boomingbob1579 2 жыл бұрын
Shanghai are v insane and built entirely different
@skrattaoppar9753
@skrattaoppar9753 3 жыл бұрын
Hammond and Akshan: *Grappling Intensifies*
@PathForger_
@PathForger_ 3 жыл бұрын
I am curious. Why would Reinhardt, Tracer and Sombra be banned choices from the June Jouse? Is something in their kits considered overpowered? If this sounds like a noob question, it's worse, as I'm an outsider to this game. ^_^; Oh... and between the swinging and the mines, Wrecking Ball looks like a rather fun pick.
@Briseria
@Briseria 3 жыл бұрын
It’s blizzard’s way of freshening up metas. Every now and then 3-4 heroes are banned from play for a set amount of time and then we go to no bans for a set amount of time or for different bans
@laurenz5460
@laurenz5460 3 жыл бұрын
And they often choose heroes which have really high pick rates. Reinhardt got played almost always, so they decided to ban him for that tournament
@PathForger_
@PathForger_ 3 жыл бұрын
@@Briseria Oh, that makes a lot more sense and thank you for clarifying. I hadn't thought of limiting choices as a means of changing the balance landscape rather than as a necessary remedial action for a particular hero being unbalanced.
@PathForger_
@PathForger_ 3 жыл бұрын
@@laurenz5460 I suppose that pick rates would be a pretty good indication of the potential existence of something going for that character, whether it be: - some form of advantage - being easier to play, or - being more fun Thanks for the clarification.
@yakovhadash
@yakovhadash 2 жыл бұрын
I know some of the words you said!
@jacksonlancaster8024
@jacksonlancaster8024 3 жыл бұрын
I clicked so fast that I broke my finger
@louislyu1806
@louislyu1806 3 жыл бұрын
Y'all see that Moria orb..?
@livingreverie5951
@livingreverie5951 3 жыл бұрын
Why do I have feeling that this is a curse for Everyone in the league against the dragons. Cause of the 0-40 in the inaugural season, everyone will have to suffer at least 40 Losses to the dragons in either maps or full Games. This is a dumb comment, but honestly I can see this as a possibility
@lagavr4693
@lagavr4693 3 жыл бұрын
Mayhem already lost forty in two seasons :(
@livingreverie5951
@livingreverie5951 3 жыл бұрын
@@lagavr4693 forgot to add where its against the dragons
@BigCallSC
@BigCallSC 3 жыл бұрын
keennnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn!!!!!!!
@alilalani9531
@alilalani9531 3 жыл бұрын
Where do you find these OWL replays?
@itsnotgilly
@itsnotgilly 3 жыл бұрын
Fuel we’re .6 seconds from winning the series on busan 🥲
@panicxpop
@panicxpop 2 жыл бұрын
Everybody's talking about Overwatch but I'm just here listening at the entire background music of Danganronpa.
@thepigeonman_
@thepigeonman_ 2 жыл бұрын
Holy crap this is why their league players
@bababooey3248
@bababooey3248 2 жыл бұрын
Ball is so good in overwatch if you know what you're doing. Easily I get 4 gold no death games constantly. It's all a matter of positional awareness, map knowledge and ability tracking. With those techniques you can steamroll, stall, harass and hunt down your enemy and get in and then get away from all engagements with barely a scratch on you. He litterally is the high skill, high reward character of overwatch.
@xyzbca110
@xyzbca110 3 жыл бұрын
Remember when they were 0-40
@hoani64
@hoani64 3 жыл бұрын
D E L I C I O U S F A T E
@wiirkirbys6981
@wiirkirbys6981 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, the only reason this worked was because Dallas refused to swap to counter the wrecking ball. They had no cc and both healers were short range, so ramming the back line was literally free and denied Dallas most of their sustain- all Shanghai had to do was chunk a tank in that split second and neither Lucio nor Moira has the burst healing to regain that during the rest of the fight without ultimates. They either needed something like a Mcree to stop the ramming, or just swap a healer to either Baptiste or Mercy since they can keep healing during disruption. Dallas did neither; the only thing they tried to swap was to an even more aggressive tank when they needed to control their back line.
@destroyermaker
@destroyermaker 3 жыл бұрын
Was hoping each map win for SHD would be broken down. Good stuff otherwise though
@melanieguages4185
@melanieguages4185 3 жыл бұрын
Madness that Fate didn't get POTM
@snewp_e2139
@snewp_e2139 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure in the Chinese stream he got it
@lucasgrossi3322
@lucasgrossi3322 3 жыл бұрын
whats up with the static moira ball at 7:14?
@nfrmptbongo9439
@nfrmptbongo9439 3 жыл бұрын
Seems like a replay-viewer bug. Nice catch.
@rappa4022
@rappa4022 3 жыл бұрын
pog
@jamesstrain1631
@jamesstrain1631 3 жыл бұрын
I was rooting for the Dragons to win. Fate was the mvp especially since he forced Fearless to switch
@mymommymom3065
@mymommymom3065 2 жыл бұрын
And then the fuel got there shit rocked by cheungdu in the next tournament
@jizzaconda6948
@jizzaconda6948 3 жыл бұрын
I hear that Danganronpa music
@soratron
@soratron 3 жыл бұрын
0:54 wait a minute… that sounds like goats lmao (watching also felt like goats)
@krystalhaug1957
@krystalhaug1957 3 жыл бұрын
Some analysts call it "neogoats"
@lamar_noil
@lamar_noil 3 жыл бұрын
I really don't understand it being called neogoats tbh because this comp has been played in numerous metas before (with like Reaper/Tracer and Sombra as the DPS lineup though), plus doesn't Rein Rush achieve the same thing as Winston Rush?
@skyblockgoober
@skyblockgoober 3 жыл бұрын
i still remember when the fuel was a joke team
@RiccardoLulli
@RiccardoLulli 3 жыл бұрын
How did Fate jumped high enough at 5:07 to use Piledriver? I don't see any rope used as pivot...
@vuumfiredog
@vuumfiredog 3 жыл бұрын
Fate momentarily went off the edge of the platform to get enough height for Piledriver to be used, and then turned around so that the Piledriver could move back and connect.
@RiccardoLulli
@RiccardoLulli 3 жыл бұрын
@@vuumfiredog Aha! Didn't know this trick! Thank you very much! :D
@thomasright1359
@thomasright1359 3 жыл бұрын
You can also just roll backwards to an edge and hold Ctrl. No need to turn around
@gglincizai
@gglincizai 3 жыл бұрын
Summer showdown will be fuels since tracer and sombra are available. Wrecking ball will be less viable against these comps because tracer and sombra are hard balls counters.
@mishima433
@mishima433 2 жыл бұрын
sorry to disappoint you but my bois still got it two times in roll 🐉
@gglincizai
@gglincizai 2 жыл бұрын
@@mishima433 I think the apac teams were playing at a faster pace compared to western teams because they were utilising ball compositions. The fuel couldn't couldn't any fights although they got the beginning picks because apac were heroes that are super fast and stallable.
@gglincizai
@gglincizai 2 жыл бұрын
Win*
@Seeker_of_Truth_and_Beauty
@Seeker_of_Truth_and_Beauty 3 жыл бұрын
Who would've thought that you just need to play the best character in the game to win?
@drivers6939
@drivers6939 3 жыл бұрын
Ball is the best?
@Seeker_of_Truth_and_Beauty
@Seeker_of_Truth_and_Beauty 3 жыл бұрын
@@drivers6939 The very best; like no one ever was.
@drivers6939
@drivers6939 3 жыл бұрын
@@Seeker_of_Truth_and_Beauty obviously lol I main ball he too good
@elektron1x
@elektron1x 3 жыл бұрын
what the hell is june joust now? where is normal format of owl? is it still happening or it's just these tournaments, what the hell is this?
@thomasright1359
@thomasright1359 3 жыл бұрын
Same question. It's a bit confusing
@elektron1x
@elektron1x 3 жыл бұрын
@@thomasright1359 I haven't played in a while let alone watch the esports so I don't know
@skidMark_69
@skidMark_69 2 жыл бұрын
So we’re just going to pretend they didn’t throw the first match because they knew they were going to ball in the finals?
@andrewfraser5484
@andrewfraser5484 2 жыл бұрын
hamster pog
@shreccc9326
@shreccc9326 3 жыл бұрын
mmmmmm hamster
@kurttis9525
@kurttis9525 2 жыл бұрын
the mvp was wreagin ball
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