How Did This Happen? | Prydwen Pure Fiction Tierlist 2.6 Update

[@joshtrivedi3611]

Herta: "Stand proud Argenti, you are strong"

[@thescorbunny9511]

funnily enough she gonna revert back to her original form right after beating argenti just like how it goes in JJK

[@Cyphonxy]

THE herta

[@Yanpoggers]

Were

[@saltybalot3021]

Nah bro, The Herta will make Argenti great again with the power of emanator

[@Ayush-kc2vx]

​​@@saltybalot3021 bro is huffing that copium

[@Oyamada13]

We need someone that is Yunli main to lend Pokke their account to experience her greatness to enforce his data. lol

[@fateani4241]

Ive 96% crit rate 160% crit dmg e1s1 yunli with e1 robin, that good enough for him?

[@musikwizzy9167]

i would but hes gonna cook me so hard

[@lordradiance2530]

@@Oyamada13 not my 80cr 102 cr yunli no sire

[@AlucardMM]

I have a top .1% Yunli she’s 95/180 UID: 601637060

[@trickmonster7905]

MrPokke when Argenti is Tier 0: 🤬🤬 Mr Pokke when Argenti is Tier 0.5 or below: 🤬🤬

[@crazyturbo4286]

Lmao true

[@eherden2169]

Everyone has a character they like to dunk on.

[@lordradiance2530]

To be fair with argenti. This is a temporary change, once we get the “permanently spawning enemies” argenti will be cooking.

[@lordradiance2530]

Also chat was capping he cant 1 shot mobs with the mini ult. Mine can and mine is built kinda shit ngl. Idk if thats s5 bp lc diff but thats skissue.

[@judielgabrielmanalo5031]

⁠@@lordradiance2530he oneshots mobs for me as well except i just use cosmos

[@h33day]

You’re right, he’s pretty gimped by enemies spawning in waves of 4 in the earlier stages effectively giving him -20% energy regen.

[@spikspik27]

I still got 30k atleast so idk why people say he can't clear

[@xii_____iiu]

yeah and with chicken wing boy coming, they'll prolly bring argenti to t0 or not. all he really needs is someone to keep feeding him energy anw

[@rubic7447]

Argenti would absolutely, genuinely, respectfully go up again.

[@aquasis995]

As a T0 in 2 modes and a T0.5 in 1 mode, Yunli joins Acheron, Firefly, and Feixiao as a T0 average DPS.

[@FriedDoggy]

Yunli is only t0 in PF currently, next MoC update she can likely make it to t0

[@ericnguyen0419]

i mean tbf she is one of the top 5 strongest dps in the game

[@WastedPotential666]

bro she outdamages both acheron and feixiao, so its no surprise

[@quockhanh5740]

@@WastedPotential666sthu lmfao. That scenario will never happen

[@eltafadhityasramadhan1398]

​@@quockhanh5740yunli is tied with acheron and feixiao in term of combat power, while acheron shine the most in aoe situation, feixiao shine the most in singlentarget situation, yunli is great at both. Single targer or blast target, she's killing it

[@FriedDoggy]

Yunli my GOAT

[@mangasinatanaelpanjaitan3048]

At least they put Ruan Mei back to T0. That change in previous update was strange considering the last 2 PF she makes for an easy clear for either sides

[@Kaien-qf6cr]

Wimsicality Buff DoT ❌ Wimsicality Buff acheron in disguise ✅

[@exu7325]

That's exactly what I've been saying. The answer to "who does this buff benefit?" is *always* the current or upcoming banner. Anyone who uses Acheron will instantly understand that the buff caters to Acheron.

[@Kaien-qf6cr]

@exu7325 imagine any single attack give stack to acheron

[@AzureDrag0n1]

It is also the reason Preservation March 7th is so good right now. Her triple counter applies dot and when enemies hit her with Trends she applies yet another debuff. She is like a budget Aventurine. The freeze is also good in combination with DoT.

[@joaosantos-uj9uw]

⁠​⁠@@exu7325it doesn’t directly benefit her. It’s just that she already has jiaoqiu and he and black swan have ridiculous aoe debuff application and damage with the buffs. In fact, I imagine her damage contribution isn’t as high as in other pure fictions and mocs

[@fantasticfail1796]

Yeah I’m one of the people that used fei xiao and yun li on the same team to full clear PF 😅

[@afish4583]

Argenti has just struggled with the lack of a good team members and the buffs being kind of actively against him (and other hypercarries in PF). I think he will go back up if we ever get hmm idk a AA unit who also gives energy and idk maybe an erudition dedicated support

[@sf4603]

I tried using preservation march with the wind shear buff to feed stacks to acheron this pf. It didnt really work for me but i have like zero investment in pres march's traces so i wouldnt be surprised if it was a viable strat for people with better traces.

[@Griggle25652]

Anyone who failed to get 30k with argenti last rotation just doesnt know how to run him, im sorry.

[@vicks4086]

agreed, there is no reason people cant get to 30k in pf with ARGENTI

[@ZytenEspada]

​@@vicks4086yup that's just skill issue 100%. Do people know how to build him? He literally just got a good relic set too.

[@Rafael-n7n]

As a day 1 spender, 90% of my characters I spent over a year building are benched forever 💀. Once I feel like I cannot run my Feixiao, I will uninstall and never look back

[@Ashmagic_]

Proud Yunli haver

[@eherden2169]

Yunli + Acheron + Jiaoqiu is insane with the Rumor buff on this PF.

[@ladyhdwastaken]

Yunli, March 7th Preservation, Clara, anyone with a counter attack getting hit is really strong with the Rumor buff + Acheron it's actually been fun to see ult spam Acheron with unconventional teams 😆

[@Indian_gae_boii]

I was having a lot of trouble with the pf on the first half my team for the first half was himeko, e1s1 bubin, herta and aventurine, i for the life of me could not do 30k clear I even tried replacing herta with sparkle but still nothing But i decided to just slap on my acheron even with no nihility she allowed me to 40k clear lmao

[@HeyItsme-c8x]

​@@ladyhdwastaken That's a weird team .. I will try that maybe 40k first try lol

[@azusawhy]

That's overkill, ach eith jq + pela is enough to get 40k

[@eherden2169]

@@azusawhy Funny enough, on the second node I was using Pela, Jiaoqiu and Acheron and the speed for debuffs was not enough to even reach 26k. I swithced Pela for Yunli and was able to get 40k on the first try. The constant debuffs applied with follow-ups with the Rumor buff was the trick.

[@TheJasperMage]

Argenti main here. I think when it comes to argenti the difference is actually: Argenti's relic set is outdated compared to Yunli's options. With the new set, I think he has the potential to catch up, if people farm it for him. Also I'm not sure how many people invest in Argenti. He wasn't a very hyped unit when he was released. and many people skipped him. Farming the physical set for him is just pain. So I can see people have just ok relics for him. I've been sporting 2pc 2pc for this reason. I got like 29k with him on this pure fiction with an E0 S1 Argenti. And I don't have Huo Huo. If I did I think I could have easily gotten over 30k.

[@afish4583]

@@TheJasperMage The only perfect clear I’ve seen this rotation is Argenti and Tingyun with wind set. I think Sunday will be his best increase but hopefully Herta will make him good again. Still, I didn’t have too much trouble with him on node 1 with Jiaoqiu, but couldn’t manage to perfect score it, but still got around 33k

[@ladyhdwastaken]

I'm wondering if the PF score rate for Welt is high because non-DOT/Blade/Yunli/ Clara people hate the action advance on enemies in DOT PF(or for the bugs or something), cause as much of a generalist as Welt is I never looked at PF as "Yeah I'm bringing Welt here" 😆

[@NoroDaitsuki]

You gonna love when argenti was in a watch list for a long time, continuously perform very well, and then A SINGLE PATCH where he doesnt do as well they without hesitation bring him down. This is why I dont take their tierlist too serious.

[@1993bassmasta]

Fexiao/Himeko slaps in pure fiction

[@Kicksrockskids]

T0≠fell off You have very high standards for a single player idle autobattler game.

[@Seth-de5bs]

Does Pokke fail to realize this is like the worst PF for Argenti?😂 no physical weakness is a huge detriment to him and he’s still getting 30k for me, you just gotta wait that’s all really

[@vicks4086]

a unit going from tier 0 to 0.5 is not falling off, if people are struggling to get 30k in pf with a 5 star erudition, thats actually a skill issue LOL

[@ZytenEspada]

Agreed. Good lord how are people so bad at this game mode? 😭

[@blazebusgaming832]

One day, the world will know the power of herta acheron.

[@Sable813]

Wait, what's the cook?

[@blazebusgaming832]

@ debuff where fua/any attack debuff usage with herta, comboed with acheron= herta stack generator (even better if you got trend aventurine too)

[@ZytenEspada]

Himeko is better, she can guarantee burn on breaks and has 50% chance to apply a burn on her skills. But she's too busy carrying the other side. 😅

[@twistedsword8612]

Acheron dot 1 side Yunli the other for me, both felt smooth to run

[@hxlydied]

my argenti got 40k last PF wtf is going on😭 no signature LC or Eidolons on any character btw aside from e6 tingyun

[@HotPepperLala]

Can't wait for the CN tier list.

[@sarahracicot2299]

Aventurine/Clara/Acheron/Feixiao was sneaky good for me in this PF.

[@noelrakman9641]

According to KZbin recap, im in the top 2% fan of MrPokke so I guess I'll finally sub 😂

[@BmanRockhart]

Gotta thank the pure fiction wind shear buff. Allowed me to clear Pure Fiction 60k with E1 S1 Acheron & E0 S0 Feixiao 2nd half

[@zxcxzxc]

Honestly Argenti ownership is so low that I don't think stats tell the real story

[@ZytenEspada]

They base all their lists on shitty numbers that don't mean anything

[@mrartezi69]

Tingyun also plays with hypercarry kafka pretty well

[@Sable813]

How do you play hypercarry Kafka?

[@aliounethiaw1443]

Seele T2 in PF is kinda wild tho. Sustain march being so low shows the absolute lack of skills prydwen has. She is actually BiS for acheron in this edition.

[@AndreAlencarLP]

My Blade and Jade team always goes hard on PF

[@ancalyme]

My E0S1 Blade got 33k on the 2nd side but he didn't get counted because E1 Luocha was on his team.

[@Arancini-sc2jb]

My Feixiao 40k this pf easily without Herta. Team: E0S0 Feixiao - M7 - E1S1 Robin - E0S0 Lingsha

[@RudeXII]

personally I love running March7th Tank with Yunli Feixiao and Moze. I dont have Yunli's sig so this is the only way she gets hit LOL

[@Skreegon423]

Maybe it's just me, but I honestly would kind of like to see people/CC start using the "weather" HI3 terminology, especially when trying to tier list stuff. Units; bar their strength in a vacuum (FEIXIAO COUGH); are just so dependant on the buffs/enemy resistances in a given mode; it's not even funny. Just look at the return of the infamous DoT(cheron kekw) Pure Fiction. Obviously it's less explicit than IMG Fire Valk good vs IMG Ice boss; but "Archetype Weathers" for DoT, Followup, Super Break, Debuff (i guess?), Counter, Ultspam, Skillpoints+Emp Basic are just the nuts idk. Either way Jiao Jiao rerun when 🙈

[@bjornnilsson2941]

Not sure what Pokke has against Serval the Slayer suddenly 😂 she's literally beating JY in the running average, and by a whopping 4k points in the current cycle. Granted that is likely to change quite soon but if anything she's underrated in the tier list atm.

[@jeremy60765]

Calling the whimsicality DoT based was a scam. With DoT team I got less than 30k, but with Acheron/Jiaoqiu I got 40k. Yunli then destroyed the other side. As it stands, I feel enemy action advance is way better with counter DPS than DoT, except for maybe E2 Jiaoqiu (not sure cuz I don't have that). It feels so bad when you have to stack Black Swan's DoT or use her Ult because it just disappears immediately.

[@HeyItsme-c8x]

Yea idk why.. it's said for dot PF but my e0s0 Kafka/swan with e0s1 robin only 33k

[@caram3lo57]

wait what dot team did you use?

[@mrartezi69]

You have shit dot then I got 40k

[@Shireen1337]

people seem to be forgetting that this PF benefits counter attackers way more than DoT characters

[@Wave_Editz]

57 views in 2 minutes? Fell off smh

[@Pulak518]

Remember when prydwen put argenti one tier above because he was consitent before but shit now and out ruan mei down because she was consistent before and good now? I hated how everyone was so defensive about argenti but their logic was nowhere to be seen for ruan mei

[@Mr.Heller]

Because Prydwen was clearly dented for lowering Ruan Mei, but for Argenti they have some kind of unnatural hatred.

[@spaceglidinmio2388]

"Who still uses firefly" My team did 40k...😅

[@tbhidk6603]

Lost Acheron 50-50 to e1 himeko 🥰🥰🥰

[@Xerenas]

lost aventurine to e2 bailu lmao

[@NightMareVent]

Lowkey not even bad, Her E1 is good

[@Xerenas]

@@NightMareVent highkey bad cuz i only have himeko and bailu, would like to get welt and bronya

[@xandermata3905]

welt my goat

[@kalosombengwa1622]

Shout out to RNG for give me 3 himeko lightcone and her e1, just throw one side himeki herta robin and profit

[@BigSpore]

Sunday will save my man Argenti 100% frfr no cap

[@ericnguyen0419]

i saw someone use acheron and march 7 to 40k this PF with pela

[@tuananhdang7385]

Can hos on Prydwen website stop glazing Acheron. Her with Jiao and without in PF is like day and night ESPECIALLY this PF patch💀 To me Feixiao and Acheron are in the same tier. Acheron needs Jiao to work efficiently while Feixiao needs Robin for more consistent damage in PF. Both are very much dog water without them

[@elv6240]

end game is becoming hp sponges. old charas will suffer for having lower multipliers.

[@ДенисБардадимов-щ6о]

pokke, r u sure bobin ia better than sparkle?

[@228Drake]

Ван хандрен персент бетер

[@Yummers321]

No way argentini fell off 😂😂

[@mayonasepizza]

Bro what are these Flintstones vitamin gummy ahh takes?

[@cryophoenix6114]

DoT PF is always the worst. Not only does it cater to a currently dying archetype, but the whimsicality also always sucks too. AA for enemies is terrible for any sustainless runs and only benefits DoT and counter, which both are extremely niche to begin with. I'm just waiting for Sunday's release so I can clear second half.

[@MalciferMephisto]

Skill issue lol

[@Nova-ey9vg]

"extremely niche", bro FuA and superbreak are also niches, it's just that hoyo has been super biased towards those niches.

[@cryophoenix6114]

@@Nova-ey9vg Are they not extremely niche? DoT has 2 characters who are competent, that being Kafka and Black Swan. Jiaoqiu has DoT but he's clearly not DoT centric until E2+. Luka and Guinaifen are better suited to break over DoT. Sampo is DoT, but not a very good one by today's standards. Counter also only has 2 units with Clara and Yunli. FuA has Topaz, Dr Ratio, Feixiao, Moze, March, Lingsha, Aventurine, Jade, etc. Break has Firefly, Boothill, Rappa, Gallagher, Lingsha, and soon Fugue. You are way more likely to have someone of these two niches than the first two. There's two way to use the word 'niche'. One is the way you use it, with different archetypes being different niches for each character. The way I used it is the other way. That being, it's rare to have characters who specialize in that niche.

[@ayamnolep]

U can use 2nd buff for not AAing enemy

[@jideo.6856]

and even then the side you would want to play clara/yunli on has the dot puppet and the bugs so it's not even insane for them either

[@Accountthatexists]

I'd u dont have DoT, Clara, yunli blade(less so him) and most IMPORTANLY aventurine/linghsa...... then u just lose, too bad🙄

[@Griggle25652]

Nah, you could clear this one with acheron and rappa even without those units

[@ladyhdwastaken]

@@Griggle25652I agree with this. I cleared with Himeko superbreak first half. Rappa should be really good here though mine isn’t built enough to try it. Loads of imaginary weakness and PF is her best mode. And Acheron you can put March 7th preservation with her and literally whoever else cause the one buff will give her stacks for free and March FUA action advances enemies. Yunli Clara aventurine are all also other options that can do this

[@Void_Everfrost]

-clara is standard, free standard in beginner 50 pulls, 1 selector in 300 pulls standard banner. next up another free selector in 2.7 -acheron+ any high hitter this season will work, so high spd pela+march 7 trend is very popular right now i have a seen a video with very relatable build (low cd, cr, spd on majority of characters) and E0S0 acheron with a mostly 4s team (only jiao qiu 5s) so it is VERY VIABLE. -galagher, rappa, himeko is also strong for 1st side instantly wiping the bugs before they could do anything -aventurine, lingsha is an obvious and solid choice

[@mommykafka238]

Midgenti be like :no physical weakness no 30k point 😂:(.

[@jacks248]

Kafka in MoC, AS, Non-Dot orientated PF be like:

[@IAmGodHimself777]

@@jacks248Nah.

[@Waisamakk]

no 30k with argenti is a skill issue tbh. A normal built e0s0 argenti can comfortably get 30k. Chat just likes to doompost characters they skipped to feel better.

[@NightMareVent]

​@@jacks248 Argenti everywhere be like:

[@kyuzuru]

funny hahaha x views in y minutes? fell off pls laugh i need a banger comment

[@banyanners]

This remark you had left on this video-based documentation on the state of the Pure Fiction game mode and the capability of characters on the hit gacha game Honkai: Star Rail has left me humored.

[@thefisherguy7269]

Can they stop doing DoT pfs already ? Litteraly nobody likes this shit especially since it's the only pf where the whimsicality actively works against you unless you are specifically a DoT unit. On that topic too, when will Break shilling stop ? Not even DoT pf was safe from the blessing shilling Break while everyone else gets to eat dust. Its been 5 months already can we get something new already

[@ayamnolep]

Just wait 3.x bro

[@kingsimba9513]

How can a FuA main cry so hard when your archetype was shilled for half a year? Not only in turbulence buffs but also in character releases. Actual toddler behavior.

[@ladyhdwastaken]

Can DOT have anything nice in this game? The archetype stopped getting anything after Kafka until Swan and after that it's been nothing. I'm sure they plan on circling back to DOT archetype eventually, but let the people who enjoy DOT have something for once in a rare occasion this game. 99% of 2.x was spent with releasing Break and FUA turbulence buffs and characters. Imagine having variety?

[@aa-gm1lz]

rappa is the only break character can deal 40k in the first half and no break dps do shit in second half. Everyone except dot and THE HERTA herself is struggle

[@ladyhdwastaken]

@@aa-gm1lzI cleared it with superbreak himeko at 40k points. No lingsha. The only really annoying thing is the action delay by Bronya on the final wave and the bugs on second

[@set5026]

"Feixiao is good on pf only with e2" me with e1s1 clearing with 35k point on second side:😂